[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 14, 2007
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[meteorite-list] Cutting a Window
Hi Listoids, Can anyone offer me good advice on how to cut a window in a meteorite without a lapidary saw? Can a regular table saw be modified for this use? If not, is there anything other than a lap saw that will do a good job? Thanks, Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cutting a Window
Hi Gary, You can always polish a window instead of cutting one. That is, unless you would like a small end cut to go with the larger stone as well. Have fun! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:35 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Cutting a Window Hi Listoids, Can anyone offer me good advice on how to cut a window in a meteorite without a lapidary saw? Can a regular table saw be modified for this use? If not, is there anything other than a lap saw that will do a good job? Thanks, Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Odd Lights, Low Sounds Cause Stir in Maine
http://www.sunjournal.com/story/199131-3/Franklin/Odd_lights_low_sounds_cause_stir/ Odd lights, low sounds cause stir By Maggie Gill-Austern Sun Journal (Maine) February 14, 2007 FARMINGTON - Strange lights with no obvious cause were spotted all over northern Franklin County Tuesday night, Sheriff's Department dispatchers said. The phone was ringing off the hook, dispatcher Bill Hoyt said. Multiple callers from multiple towns - New Vineyard, Wilton, Phillips, Industry, and around Mt. Abram - called to report bizarre, low-to-the-ground lights, he said. They were seeing, basically, a string of seven or eight lights low in the sky, that were fixed, he said. There (were) also reports of jet engine noise low to the ground. One person who called worked with jet airplanes, Hoyt said. They were not like any lights he had ever seen. Some people said they looked like stars. Hoyt called a Federal Aviation Administration office in Boston, which monitors air traffic in this part of New England, wondering if what people saw and heard could be related to military exercises. They said the only air traffic was a couple of routine air flights at 40,000 feet, he said. Hoyt doubts it was aliens. I think, personally, most of the time there's an explanation for everything, he said. But you know, I don't deny the fact that people see things they can't explain. It was kind of odd, he said. All these reports were from different locations at the same time. Maybe it was a meteorite. The jet-engine sounds and the fixed-ness of the light pattern make him question that theory, though, he said. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Odd Lights, Low Sounds Cause Stir in Maine
They were seeing, basically, a string of seven or eight lights low in the sky, that were fixed, All these reports were from different locations at the same time. Maybe it was a meteorite. ... the fixed-ness of the light pattern Hello All, Haven't we heard (or read) similar reports before?! Yep, L'AIGLE ! People didn't see a moving fireball like in the case of Peekskill but a rectangular cloudlet which seemed to stand still because it was moving straight toward the observers. This would be Maine's 5th fall of a meteorite if something should be found: Andover - Castine - Nobleborough - Searsmont - Walnut Hill (find) Regards, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Odd Lights, Low Sounds Cause Stir in Maine
I used to live at Mt. Abrahm. This is not the first time strange lights have been seen there. I myself have seen lights hanging low on the horizon there many times. Nobody ever has an explanation. I wonder if its not surreptitious Air Force manuevers. At least that's always been my theory. Interestingly enough I've seen two green fireballs in my lifetime - both of them within 25 miles of that area. Strange. Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com http://www.sunjournal.com/story/199131-3/Franklin/Odd_lights_low_sounds_cause_stir/ Odd lights, low sounds cause stir By Maggie Gill-Austern Sun Journal (Maine) February 14, 2007 FARMINGTON - Strange lights with no obvious cause were spotted all over northern Franklin County Tuesday night, Sheriff's Department dispatchers said. The phone was ringing off the hook, dispatcher Bill Hoyt said. Multiple callers from multiple towns - New Vineyard, Wilton, Phillips, Industry, and around Mt. Abram - called to report bizarre, low-to-the-ground lights, he said. They were seeing, basically, a string of seven or eight lights low in the sky, that were fixed, he said. There (were) also reports of jet engine noise low to the ground. One person who called worked with jet airplanes, Hoyt said. They were not like any lights he had ever seen. Some people said they looked like stars. Hoyt called a Federal Aviation Administration office in Boston, which monitors air traffic in this part of New England, wondering if what people saw and heard could be related to military exercises. They said the only air traffic was a couple of routine air flights at 40,000 feet, he said. Hoyt doubts it was aliens. I think, personally, most of the time there's an explanation for everything, he said. But you know, I don't deny the fact that people see things they can't explain. It was kind of odd, he said. All these reports were from different locations at the same time. Maybe it was a meteorite. The jet-engine sounds and the fixed-ness of the light pattern make him question that theory, though, he said. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Odd Lights, Low Sounds Cause Stir in Maine
Gary- How many fireballs have you seen that weren't green? Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Odd Lights, Low Sounds Cause Stir in Maine I used to live at Mt. Abrahm. This is not the first time strange lights have been seen there. I myself have seen lights hanging low on the horizon there many times. Nobody ever has an explanation. I wonder if its not surreptitious Air Force manuevers. At least that's always been my theory. Interestingly enough I've seen two green fireballs in my lifetime - both of them within 25 miles of that area. Strange. Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Odd Lights, Low Sounds Cause Stir in Maine
Sounds like I ought to do some triangulations and head out - though we are under a major snowstorm right now that would cover any recent falls. Still, might be woorth the try. Gary They were seeing, basically, a string of seven or eight lights low in the sky, that were fixed, All these reports were from different locations at the same time. Maybe it was a meteorite. ... the fixed-ness of the light pattern Hello All, Haven't we heard (or read) similar reports before?! Yep, L'AIGLE ! People didn't see a moving fireball like in the case of Peekskill but a rectangular cloudlet which seemed to stand still because it was moving straight toward the observers. This would be Maine's 5th fall of a meteorite if something should be found: Andover - Castine - Nobleborough - Searsmont - Walnut Hill (find) Regards, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Odd Lights, Low Sounds Cause Stir in Maine
Could be a fall. These locations are pretty well lined up in a small geographical area. I have family in Wilton. Gary New Vineyard, Wilton, Phillips, Industry, and around Mt. Abram __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Odd Lights, Low Sounds Cause Stir in Maine
Those are the only two fireballs I've seen. I believe the green color is caused by copper content in a bolide.?... Maybe I'm off-base with that tho. Gary Gary- How many fireballs have you seen that weren't green? Chris __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Odd Lights, Low Sounds Cause Stir in Maine
Looking at mapquest the center of that area is basically Andover. Coult it be another fall in the same town? That would be something! My step-grandparents lived in Andover all their lives. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Odd Lights, Low Sounds Cause Stir in Maine
No, the color is caused by oxygen in the atmosphere. Most low velocity fireballs are seen as green. Faster fireballs are brighter, and the white blackbody radiation often swamps the fainter green, although green may still be seen in the trail. Anyway, nothing odd in your seeing two green fireballs. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Odd Lights, Low Sounds Cause Stir in Maine Those are the only two fireballs I've seen. I believe the green color is caused by copper content in a bolide.?... Maybe I'm off-base with that tho. Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Odd Lights, Low Sounds Cause Stir in Maine: Andover - Wethersfield
Gary wrote: Looking at mapquest the center of that area is basically Andover. Could it be another fall in the same town? That would be something! Unlikely but not impossible ... because: Wethersfield (1971) - L6: A stone of 0350 gr fell through the roof of a house. Wethersfield (1982) - L6: A stone of 2756 gr fell through the roof of a house. Interesting reference with pictures: DENNIS di CICCO (1983) Target Wethersfield - Wethersfield meteorite: The odds were astronomical (Sky Telescope, 1983 Feb., pp 118-119). Cheers, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Odd Lights, Low Sounds Cause Stir in Maine
Many fireballs have a green hue and that is from atmospheric oxygen as determined through spectral analysis of meteors. Copper abundance in meteorites is rare. I used to think the green was probably from nickel. Elton --- Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those are the only two fireballs I've seen. I believe the green color is caused by copper content in a bolide.?... Maybe I'm off-base with that tho. Gary Gary- How many fireballs have you seen that weren't green? Chris __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] USAF Satellite Fireball Reports?
Pre 9/11 we were privy to fireball trajectory data from the US Air Force. They have satellites staring earthward for detecting launches and reentry. That resource hasn't been mentioned in a long time and I've misplaced the site URL. I seem to recall that a list member was our liaison for sanitized information released to the public. We've had several bright fireballs and no one mentioned checking with the USAF. I can't seem to google it and I know many .mil domains are no longer accessible to the public. Does anyone know the status or the URL for reports? Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Odd Lights, Low Sounds Cause Stir in Maine: Andover - Wethersfield
A somewhat recent I made to the list last year afte speaking with the Wethersfield II home owners. Mark Tue Aug 29 15:24:51 EDT 2006 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Wethersfield Meteorites was Question Next message: [meteorite-list] My Moss fragment Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Hello Michael, Paul and list, A few newspaper articles on the 1982 Wethersfield meteorite can be found on my website here: http://www.meteoritearticles.com/znpwethersfield.html As noted in the above, and in Paul's e-mail, the homeowners Wanda and Robert Donahue donated the meteorite to the Peabody museum. The Peabody museum's meteorites are quite impression and it is the oldest (curated) meteorite collection in the United States. I took the opportunity to examine the collection a couple years ago and was quite impressed. Spurred by Michael's e-mail I spoke with Robert and Wanda Donahue this morning. Robert seemed a little more aged then Wanda (for lack of better word), liked he asked where I was a couple times, but Wanda was very clear minded and answered all my questions. Both were kind and I mean no disrespect to Robert with my comment. Wanda recalled, We were overwhelmed, of course. We both heard the noise. A real loud crash. We ran into the room and looked at the ceiling and saw the sky. She also remembered the names of all the people that examined the meteorite or were associated with it to some degree at the beginning. Dr. Roy Clarke made a positive impression on her. I asked what happened to the damage and was told they had the whole ceiling cut out and put into acrylic. This was donated to the local historical society. The item was on display a number of years but is not currently. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] USAF Satellite Fireball Reports?
Hi Elton, Peter Brown (Univ. of Western Ontario) has typically forwarded these DoD fireball detection reports. Here is a link to past reports: http://aquarid.physics.uwo.ca/~pbrown/usaf.html The most recent one was for Park Forest on March 27, 2003. Prior to that was over Siberia on September 24, 2002. These are the only two listed since 9/11. --Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mr EMan Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:30 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] USAF Satellite Fireball Reports? Pre 9/11 we were privy to fireball trajectory data from the US Air Force. They have satellites staring earthward for detecting launches and reentry. That resource hasn't been mentioned in a long time and I've misplaced the site URL. I seem to recall that a list member was our liaison for sanitized information released to the public. We've had several bright fireballs and no one mentioned checking with the USAF. I can't seem to google it and I know many .mil domains are no longer accessible to the public. Does anyone know the status or the URL for reports? Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] USAF Satellite Fireball Reports?
Peter Brown maintains a list at http://aquarid.physics.uwo.ca/%7Epbrown/usaf.html . I've obtained some information that isn't in his list, so I think a lot depends on who you talk to. But overall, very little data is released. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Mr EMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:30 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] USAF Satellite Fireball Reports? Pre 9/11 we were privy to fireball trajectory data from the US Air Force. They have satellites staring earthward for detecting launches and reentry. That resource hasn't been mentioned in a long time and I've misplaced the site URL. I seem to recall that a list member was our liaison for sanitized information released to the public. We've had several bright fireballs and no one mentioned checking with the USAF. I can't seem to google it and I know many .mil domains are no longer accessible to the public. Does anyone know the status or the URL for reports? Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Kackley Meteorite Photographs
Hello all, I have added some photographs of the Kackley meteorite I took before it was cut to my website. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colkackley.html Clear Skies, Mark PS: It was nice to see the Chladni's Heirs in Tucson. Hope we see you back next year. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Kackley Meteorite + Photographs
Mark kindly wrote: Hello all, I have added some photographs of the Kackley meteorite I took before it was cut to my website. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colkackley.html Last December 02, I enthusiasically wrote: Hello Jerry, Mark, Greg and List, what a beautiful H4 chondrite! Gorgeous, thumbprinted fusion crust! Thanks to Mark, I'll soon be the proud owner of a Kackley micromount. Thank you Mark, very much appreciated! I still wonder when it fell because it looks so fresh that I also wrote: ... must have fallen within the last 4 months! Well, this meteorite will probably be hard to come by and a look at EBay shows that geochem495 is another happy owner of that meteorite. Congratulations! If you would also like to own some of this rare material, look here and don't wait too long: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290079584123ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX_Storesrefitem=290058198979itemcount=4refwidgetloc=closed_view_itemrefwidgettype=osi_widget Oh boy, if you don't want to cut and paste, the item number is: 290079584123 Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA Window
Well, I used 400 grit wet and sanded and sanded and sanded and sanded. Got a small window. Any comments/observations? [other than I need better photo skills - lol] C:\webbers\meteorite-dealers\nwawindow.html Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA Window
Whoops, that's ; http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/nwawindow.html Gary Well, I used 400 grit wet and sanded and sanded and sanded and sanded. Got a small window. Any comments/observations? [other than I need better photo skills - lol] C:\webbers\meteorite-dealers\nwawindow.html Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Langs Auction - Official Statement
So, you temporarily lost track of Achim's stolen meteorites.. yet you put them on the invoices of two absentee bidders at a higher price (??) I have inquired via email and still no response, so perhaps you care to post your an explanation here in public. (??) And no, I dont want to speak to you over the phone.. I have requested a explanation in writing but I keep getting the same response from you. Regards, A frustrated absentee bidder. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Feb 12, 2007 8:58 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Langs Auction - Official Statement Dear List Members, Having just returned home from the 2007 Tucson show Allan and I would like to make the following statement regarding our annual meteorite auction: 1) First of all, thank you to our many friends and customers who participated in the 2007 auction. It was intended to be a fun, family-run event, and we are very disappointed that a few individuals have attempted to turn it into something deceitful. 2) We are not professional auctioneers, and freely admit that we made some mathematical errors during the bidding. We had one person handling the absentee bids, one auctioneer, one tabulating the results, and one spotting bids. In a few instances we evidently failed to log every absentee bid, and some lots sold for less than they should have. We apologize for those errors and will make good on them. Allan will personally contact the high bidders on every lot in question, and offer them a replacement specimen, or find another appropriate way in which to compensate them for our mistakes. 3) All specimens sold were from Allan's personal collection. Funds raised from the auction will help support The Langheinrich Fossil Preserve -- our not-for-profit educational and research paleontology facility in upstate New York. Any bidder who is unhappy with any item purchased at the auction can return it to us for a full refund. 4) At the close of the auction we could not account for three specimens which had been won by Mr. Karl. At the time we believed those pieces to have been stolen. We offered Mr. Karl an item from the auction catalog at far below our reserve as a thank you for his understanding regarding the lost specimens. He accepted that offer, and left with a very fine historic specimen for less than Allan's cost. Later, when packing up the room, we discovered the three specimens had accidentally been put in a box in the kitchen. We are happy to make those specimens available to Mr. Karl, at the hammer price, if he still wants them. 5) Please note that the person making the loudest accusations regarding our integrity was not at the auction, and did not even place absentee bids. We have been in business for over thirty years, and we value our good reputation above everything else. Any person -- whether a bidder or an interested party -- who has questions about the auction is invited to contact us in private. Allan will personally ensure that every person who bid at the auction is happy with the final outcome. 6) We are very disappointed that our integrity has been questioned by one or two people. We also feel that The Meteorite List is not an appropriate forum for business discussions, so this will be our only public statement regarding the auction. Once again we thank our good friends and customers for their decades of support. Please contact us off-List with any questions or concerns, and we will make sure they are taken care of. Sincerely, Iris Lang R.A. Langheinrich Meteorites Langs Fossils mail2web LIVE Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] www.venusmeteorite.com - what are your opinions on this claim
Could your Martian impact scenario apply to ejecta from Mercury? Probably but you've no atmospheric effects to account for. You've got a big potential well to climb out of mind. Fine, you've got the Yarkovsky effect to help you out but it's a big ask. I don't know where I read this or who calculated it, but I remember reading that with all the variables (including difficulty finding them) no more than 15kg of mercury meteorites are likely on earth. One of these days I'll take copies of this kinda thing. I was wondering if there would there be any ablation at all on the outbound martian rock, Regardless of Mars' characteristics, It's gonna need 7km/s to get off the planet and that's gonna cause ablation, unless there is an undetermined process by which it can escape without it. Sterling's method for low shock ejecta may well do the job and I like it. Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! http://mobile.yahoo.com/services?promote=mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad - Holbrook Fragments
Hello List, I'm sitting here, looking at all these fragments, realizing I just don't need this much Holbrook! I doubt the large piece will ever leave my collection, however.. I have selected five pieces to offer the list, I thought I would take offers over the next 24 hours, highest bidders win. I don't have a website so interested persons will have to email me for pictures. I will be available tonight for the next 3 hours or so. I have to work tomorrow so will not be able to respond or send pic's until I get home at about 4:00 pm. All five are partially crusted fragments weighing 29.5g, 11.68g, 8.62g, 2.81g and .87g. The .87 has only a spot of crust. Sale ends at 8:00 pm eastern tomorrow. If you are bidding, Good Luck! Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA Window
Gary, 400 grit is relatively fine when used in conjunction with meteorites. In most cases, I don't polish past 400 grit as detail is lost when over polished. Starting with 150 grit then 300 and then 400 works great for many meteorites. Use your paper on top of a large think piece of glass with lots of alcohol. Some stones polish in seconds. I just polished some deep cut marks out of a large slice ~65mm x 65mm in about 15 minutes. Some stones are very hard and the only way to get a nice window is to cut. There are probably some on the list who will cut for you for a small fee or sample. Dark shocked meteorites tend to be very tough to polish. Ringwoodite which results from shock (dark black melt) is very hard and I think I can see some in your window. Hope this helps. tett - Original Message - From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA Window Whoops, that's ; http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/nwawindow.html Gary Well, I used 400 grit wet and sanded and sanded and sanded and sanded. Got a small window. Any comments/observations? [other than I need better photo skills - lol] C:\webbers\meteorite-dealers\nwawindow.html Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Iraqi and New Zealand meteorite falls, CV3.2 and LL5
Hello overyone, I am done with the Tucson show and finally getting some eBay auctions going. Tonight I loaded several extremely rare meteorite falls. The first is Alta'ameem from Iraq, an LL5 fall. Needless to say, falls from Iraq are about as rare as they come. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ130066685513 The second is Mokoia, a CV3.2 Bali-type fall from New Zealand. Ever seen this one available? http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170081692850 The third is Mayo Belwa, the famous and nearly impossible to get Aubrite fall. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170081699524 Those of you who collect falls and hard to get meteorites, these are for you. Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] eBay Hassles
Steve, Ebay also owns Skype, the largest VOIP company going. Skype at any given time has over 8 MILLION users either on the phone or on a chat conference. My company uses Skype for international communication within our company and to interact with some of the biggest telecommunication/IP providers in the industry and it is 100% FREE. In fact shortly after Ebay bought Skype they opened up by allowing VOIP calls from any computer to ANY Land phone, unlimited calling to anywhere in the US and Canada for free. Thanks to ebays purchase of Skype, you can also buy an account to allow VOIP calls from any computer, to any phone in the US and or Canada for only $29.95 a YEAR and that is a year, not a month like Vonage. The free calling started last April and went through the end of the year and I can tell you that I personally spent hours on the phone to all of my relative during that time. I also use the Yearly service and have not paid for a long distance call in almost a year. Skype is also integrated into Ebay now and bidders can actually use it to contact you if they have questions. We have used it for a few expensive auctions and it was great. We had alot of calls and I think did better on those auctions because of skype but have no real hard evidence, just experience. Paypal may have its flaws and if used with reckless abandon it can be troublesome, follow the rules and do not keep too much money in paypals possession and you are fine. I have used paypal since it began and I personally have had absolutely no problems and have had to deal with some disputes via paypal, not all went my way but all were handled fairly. Paypal is not the end all but it is still safer and cheaper than accepting credit cards any other way. So not everything ebay is about or does is part of the axis of evil. Everything comes at a price, sometimes monetary sometimes in intangibles. Gary's situation is not unique. And ebay does not take sides, they do provide ways of dealing with bidders such as Gary's. Seven days after the auction he can file a dispute for non-payment. If the bidder replies to the dispute, good or bad at that point the seller can void the sale and instantly get all the fees back. Or the seller can wait to hear from a bidder and then decide. Ebay allows sellers to receive the bidders contact info as soon as the auction ends, Gary could have called the bidder the day the auction ended. On any auction over $300.00 we call the person the next business day and ask if they have any questions, tell them about how the item will be shipped and when. A few have found it intiimidating but the rest thought it to be above average service, and guess what, ANY seller can do that and should if they think they are not going to get paid. If the info is bad, report it to ebay and if ebay finds the info bad they suspend the bidder. One has to take the time to protect themselves if they are going to sell on ebay. It would be a great world if the concept of ebay worked perfectly, but there is that part of our society that has to steal, lie and otherwise f*ck things up for everyone else. That is why when we got into selling seriously we went to a lawyer and said this is what we want to do, HOW DO WE protect OURSELVES. That is the key Steve, too many people want everyone else to look out for them, protect them, and they want to blame everything and everyone else for their lack of responsibility and lack of planning. I deal with it everyday, my company is in collections, I hear a million reasons why someone lese is at fault for the debtor not being able to pay. Gee they got the loan and they spent the money but it is someone else's fault for why they can not pay. Ebay is not going to hold anyone's hand and protect them, they simply offer the venue for the transactions to happen and if you rely on them to keep you totally safe you will never like ebay. No mall in the country is going to guarantee that you will never have items shoplifted and ebay offers no guarantee that your trades are safe. The mall provides security but you are ultimately responsible for your store. Same as on ebay and they tell you that upfront and remind you on almost every page, they offer workshops and help pages, what more do you need? As for ebay making a profit in two places, give me a break, that is capitalism at its best. I suppose it is underhanded for a doctor to have a practice at an office and also at a hospital that doctor would be charging for different services in two venues. Ebay is not different than any other publicly held corporation, they are out to make a buck, just like the rest of us. It is not a conspiracy, it is only common sense and business. Cover your ass at all times and you will be fine. Being on this list doesn't make me or anyone else a genius, but 90% of the IQ's here are above average in my estimation, Proud Tom included. That should make it easy to deal with the
[meteorite-list] Ad: corrected link for Iraqi meteorite
Hello overyone, I am done with the Tucson show and finally getting some eBay auctions going. Tonight I loaded several extremely rare meteorite falls. The first is Alta'ameem from Iraq, an LL5 fall. Needless to say, falls from Iraq are about as rare as they come. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ130066685513 The second is Mokoia, a CV3.2 Bali-type fall from New Zealand. Ever seen this one available? http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170081696046 The third is Mayo Belwa, the famous and nearly impossible to get Aubrite fall. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170081699524 Those of you who collect falls and hard to get meteorites, these are for you. Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad: Ok, third time's a charm, finally correct.
Hello overyone, I am done with the Tucson show and finally getting some eBay auctions going. Tonight I loaded several extremely rare meteorite falls. The first is Alta'ameem from Iraq, an LL5 fall. Needless to say, falls from Iraq are about as rare as they come. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170081696046 The second is Mokoia, a CV3.2 Bali-type fall from New Zealand. Ever seen this one available? http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170081692850 The third is Mayo Belwa, the famous and nearly impossible to get Aubrite fall. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170081699524 Those of you who collect falls and hard to get meteorites, these are for you. Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - Holbrook Fragments
Hi List, Can anybody forward photos of Larry's fragments to me? I had to work late tonight, and I don't think I'll get them from him in time to consider bidding. I have plenty of mailbox space, so don't worry about bombarding me with too may meteorites.er, photos... ;-) Clear skies, Mark Vail, AZ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:08 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Ad - Holbrook Fragments Hello List, I'm sitting here, looking at all these fragments, realizing I just don't need this much Holbrook! I doubt the large piece will ever leave my collection, however.. I have selected five pieces to offer the list, I thought I would take offers over the next 24 hours, highest bidders win. I don't have a website so interested persons will have to email me for pictures. I will be available tonight for the next 3 hours or so. I have to work tomorrow so will not be able to respond or send pic's until I get home at about 4:00 pm. All five are partially crusted fragments weighing 29.5g, 11.68g, 8.62g, 2.81g and .87g. The .87 has only a spot of crust. Sale ends at 8:00 pm eastern tomorrow. If you are bidding, Good Luck! Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - Holbrook Fragments
In a message dated 2/14/2007 10:14:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi List, Can anybody forward photos of Larry's fragments to me? I had to work late tonight, and I don't think I'll get them from him in time to consider bidding. I have plenty of mailbox space, so don't worry about bombarding me with too may meteorites.er, photos... ;-) Clear skies, Mark Vail, AZ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:08 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Ad - Holbrook Fragments Hello List, I'm sitting here, looking at all these fragments, realizing I just don't need this much Holbrook! I doubt the large piece will ever leave my collection, however.. I have selected five pieces to offer the list, I thought I would take offers over the next 24 hours, highest bidders win. I don't have a website so interested persons will have to email me for pictures. I will be available tonight for the next 3 hours or so. I have to work tomorrow so will not be able to respond or send pic's until I get home at about 4:00 pm. All five are partially crusted fragments weighing 29.5g, 11.68g, 8.62g, 2.81g and .87g. The .87 has only a spot of crust. Sale ends at 8:00 pm eastern tomorrow. If you are bidding, Good Luck! Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Mark, List, You can go to Ryan Pawelski's site and see some pic's now. He's still working to get some more pic's up. http://www.fallingfusion.com/ Thanks, Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cutting a Window
Gary, If you don't mind cut loss you can cut your meteorites with an inexpensive masonry blade. The blade could be used on a table saw or a circular saw. You can secure the rock to a piece of lumber or put it in a vise, if using a circular saw. Just be very very careful! Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:35:29 -0500 (EST) To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Cutting a Window Hi Listoids, Can anyone offer me good advice on how to cut a window in a meteorite without a lapidary saw? Can a regular table saw be modified for this use? If not, is there anything other than a lap saw that will do a good job? Thanks, Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cutting a Window
Gary and all, I forgot to add that if you choose to use a table or circular saw, make sure it's an old one that you aren't real concerned about. Thecutting dust isn'tvery good for the bearings. I use an old junker I bought at the flea for 5 bucks. Bill -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:47:27 -0700To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Cutting a Window Hola Gary, List;I have a little masonry saw sort of like a 4" skill saw and it came from Home Depot for $50 included the blade. It would cut stony meteorites as Bill noted, use a wood jawed vice make a rip guide so you cut straight and even, the saw has a water cooling system that attaches to a garden hose, should work fine, I suppose a hack saw might work but a tiny rock trim saw that most rock shops have would do a good job too, just remember to dry correctly to get rid of the water.Dave F. Bill wrote: Gary, If you don't mind cut loss you can cut your meteorites with an inexpensive masonry blade. The blade could be used on a table saw or a circular saw. You can secure the rock to a piece of lumber or put it in a vise, if using a circular saw. Just be very very careful! Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:35:29 -0500 (EST) To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Cutting a Window Hi Listoids, Can anyone offer me good advice on how to cut a window in a meteorite without a lapidary saw? Can a regular table saw be modified for this use? If not, is there anything other than a lap saw that will do a good job? Thanks, Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Cutting a Window
I'm not sure that last email went through so I'm sending it again. I don't want anyone to ruin a good saw. Gary and all, I forgot to add, that if you choose to use a table or circular saw, make sure it's an old one that you aren't real concerned about. The cutting dust isn't very good for the bearings. I use an old junker I bought at the flea for 5 bucks. Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 15, 2007
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Re: [meteorite-list] Clepto Convention at TUCSON...
Well Zep, although Im lying in bed in Tucson with the Uruquay-Influenza (Hans, Ill gona be famous to have it brought to Europe), I really want to miss my 1st-Tucson-experience. It IS indeed the Mekka of stones, 40 different shows going on parallely, if then some not yet cleared circumstances at one single event will keep you from visiting Tucson nobody can help you. Not only that its most probably the most important event to catch sight of novelties concerning desert material and not to forget the real show- and masterpieces of historical specimens, which you wont find to such an extend at the Old-World-Shows, but it is the people, collectors, hunters, dealers likewise - the meteorite community which makes that event to an extraordinary highlight in the meteorite calendar! I want to express my warmest thanks to all of them, who made my first visit to an extraordinary experience, to list you all by name would be to long. He, Zep, aside from the fact, that we all want our specimens for free, I guess you missed a lot of legal steals, not only from our room and Zep, if you prefer a more cosy show, contact immediately Zel, See you in Ensisheim! Martin Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von rob szep Gesendet: Freitag, 9. Februar 2007 21:59 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Clepto Convention at TUCSON... More show-and-tell and steal sell... Sounds to me like there was a CLEPTOMANIAC Convention happening at Tucson at the same as the Rock Show... Glad I missed the ''show... seems more and more like a giant get-together of two-faced, double-crossin', backstabbin' rock-floggers and rock-snatchers. Looking forward to missing next year's too. Zep, over out... - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, 8 February, 2007 8:41:30 PM Subject: Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 39, Issue 30 Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest... Today's Topics: 1. macovich to come out of semi-retirement? (Darryl Pitt) 2. Re: Fraud or Stolen meteorites in Tucson ??? (JKGwilliam) 3. Re: Lang proxy bid? (JKGwilliam) 4. Re: a few other auction surprises (Eric Twelker) 5. Lang Auction (Bob Evans) 6. Re: Lang Auction (Michael Farmer) 7. Lang Auction (David Weir) 8. Re: Update on Walter (Jose Campos) 9. a few other auction surprises (Mike Fowler) 10. Lang Auction (Bob Evans) 11. Re: a few other auction surprises (Peter Marmet) 12. French Meteorite Hunters Article (Gary K. Foote) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:12:58 -0500 From: Darryl Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] macovich to come out of semi-retirement? To: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed the macovich auction---where there was always staff to accommodate immediate payment property pick-up---is returning to tucson next year. On Feb 8, 2007, at 3:54 PM, Jim Strope wrote: I did NOT volunteer to offer my services for $100- to be your check out person but I am sure you can find some intelligent college student at the U of A that would be happy to do the service for a Hundred Bucks and free beer. (Beer to be consumed after the auction, of course). Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com - Original Message - From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AUCTION RESULTS - Blood and Lang Hi All, Just got back from the big one. Haven't come close to reading all my 473 emails, but I am more convinced than ever that the lack of an additional check out person at my auction is, indeed, a situation in need of correcting. My plan for this year fell through at the last minute but I am now more determined than ever to correct this problem once and for all. Imagine my delight in hearing Jim Strope is willing to perform that duty for only $100! Yippie! You're hired, Jim! Please, everyone, let Jim know how
Re: [meteorite-list] www.venusmeteorite.com - what are your opinions on this claim
Ken, Thank you for you reply and the link to webwrongs. Yes, it's theolitic basalt with a melted surface. I hope you will keep an open mind and take the time to read this. Please take a look at the Geophysical Meteors on the web link you provided. I have had many communications with the author of that website, Dr. Andrei Ol'khovatov. If you would look at the Peruvian meteorite sighting on that website you will see that it was a mid-day witnessed fall and the impact was recorded by 3 different seismic stations (Arica Chile, Arequipa Peru, and Lima Peru). Dr. Mutsumi Shisutka (Institute Geophysical Peru) and Dr. Armando Minaya UNSA (University National San Agustin) assisted me by providing seismic recordings, and in turn, I provided them with the actual location of the crater. The actual location of the crater was important in helping to adjust their equipment in refining earthquake epicenters. The main mass at this current time in in-extractable due to the terrain but efforts are underway contracting with a heavy equipment operator to bulldoze a small dirt road. I have talked with the local government about buying a 100 hectares mining concession encompassing the crater to protect it. When the main mass is uncovered, I'll know more. It took me 2 years and 6 separate expeditions to find the crater. I lived for a time in the area of El Castillo with a family that witnessed this event. With satellite photos, eyewitness accounts, seismic data, detailed charts and assistance provided by the national university I searched for the impact area. I found it and I have all the proof. What is interesting is that some of the specimens I collected near the crater are identical to one of the pictures in the venusmeteorite.com. I went to ACTLABS in Lima, Peru to have a sample analyzed but they lacked the equipment necessary. They told me that ACTLABS.com (Canada) might be able to provide this analysis.The type of testing I need is space weathering. Specifically, solar to galactic ray tracks, oxygen isotope fractionation patterns, radionuclide measurements, and noble gas analysis. I would like to find a planetary geologist who will take to time to look at a specimen and read the reports but in reality, my expectations are low. I wrote to Dr. Korotev some time ago, but he too has doubts and his area of expertise is lunar meteorites. I can tell you that some of the rocks near the crater have a black splatter with the same characteristics as the samples. In an area of tan to rust colored terrain, a rock that looks like melted black plastic is unmistakable. I talked with a Peruvian government hydrologist (Jorge Mena) that works in this general area and he told me he has never seen rocks like that in his 40 years in the field searching for underground aquifers. Can you speculate what would a inner-planet meteorite look like? Does the fact that it fell mid-day have any significance? Would you expect a mid-day fall? Are mid-day falls rare? And if 20 years ago someone said that they had a meteorite that might just be from Mars, would anyone believe them? I have a lot of evidence but no definitive proof that these are meteorites or where they might have come from. I'm hoping you can help me find the answer. I am sending a copy of this email to Dr. Korotev in the hope that he would be kind enough to provide a introduction to Dr. Brett Gladman or Dr. Akira Yamaguchi if possible. Randall Hi Randall, It's basalt. Here are some more meteorwrong sites (bottom half) http://home.earthlink.net/~magellon/webwrongs.html Best, Ken Newton Randall Gregory wrote: Has anyone seen this website and if so, what are your opinions as to the validity of his claims that the meteorites found are from Venus. And how would anyone know if a meteorite came from one of the inner planets? Would cosmic ray exposure and oxygen isotope be useful. What tests would be definitive? Randall - Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers from real people who know. - __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wanted - sealed box for storing meteorites
Hello List, Does anyone know where a sealed box can be bought. I'm looking for a air tight container Thank You, Tim Heitz__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Happy Birthday Sikhote Alin
60 years is pass from this fall, I celebrate this birthday showing my SA pieces a 1240 gr. shrapnel http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteorite2006/SikhoteAlin4.JPG a 168 gr. shrapnel, one of my first meteorites http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteorite2006/SikhoteAlin6.JPG 181 grams individual with thumbprints, one of my first meteorites http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteoritecollection/SikhoteAlin6.JPG a 37.35 gr, end piece with nodule http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteorite2006/SikhoteAlin5.JPG a 7.5 gr. bullet oriented, who give to me $700 I give immediatly http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteoritecollection/SikhoteAlin5.JPG a 144 gr. individual with thumbprints and hole called the Dog http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteorite2006/SikhoteAlin8.JPG a 718 gr. individual with thumbprints and hole called the Ashtray http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteorite2006/SikhoteAlin7.JPG a 2253 gr. slice http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteoritecollection/SikhoteAlin.JPG a 1535 gr. shrapnel http://it.geocities.com/tunguska2004/SikhoteAlin9.JPG a 7600 gr. shrapnel http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/492/sikhotealinhz4.jpg and last, in arrive, a over 4 kg. individual with thumbprints. Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail: http://it.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wanted - sealed box for storing meteorites
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Re: [meteorite-list] www.venusmeteorite.com - what are your opinions on this claim
Another way to recognize a Venus surface rock would be from its weathering in the Venus atmosphere. Because Venus' surface is so hot, and its atmosphere is so rich in carbon dioxide and sulfur oxides, the surface rocks should have lots of sulfates and maybe carbonates in them. Water-free sulfates like anhydrite. Allan Allan Treiman Lunar and Planetary Institute 3600 Bay Area Boulevard Houston TX 77058 USA 281-486-2117 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Feb 12, 2007, at 5:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Randall and Others: I did some checking. To quote Tim Swindle: Yes, there may be meteorites from Venus, but we have not found them yet! It is much more difficult to get something out of the gravity well of Venus, through the Venus atmosphere, and out of the gravity well of the Sun. It is much easier to get things off Mars and let Poynting Robertson effect, etc. bring it in toward the Earth. How would we recognize a Venus meteorite? Argon dating. Potassium decays to argon. At the temperture of the Venus surface, the argon would almost immediately escape. So, would not create argon 40 that could be retained by a rock until it was out in space. Therefore, its argon age would be about the same as its cosmic ray exposure age. Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] WG: Clepto Convention at TUCSON...
Ooops, seems not have it made through yesterday Well Zep, although Im lying in bed in Tucson with the Uruquay-Influenza (Hans, Ill gona be famous to have it brought to Europe), I really want to miss my 1st-Tucson-experience. It IS indeed the Mekka of stones, 40 different shows going on parallely, if then some not yet cleared circumstances at one single event will keep you from visiting Tucson nobody can help you. Not only that its most probably the most important event to catch sight of novelties concerning desert material and not to forget the real show- and masterpieces of historical specimens, which you wont find to such an extend at the Old-World-Shows, but it is the people, collectors, hunters, dealers likewise - the meteorite community which makes that event to an extraordinary highlight in the meteorite calendar! I want to express my warmest thanks to all of them, who made my first visit to an extraordinary experience, to list you all by name would be to long. He, Zep, aside from the fact, that we all want our specimens for free, I guess you missed a lot of legal steals, not only from our room and Zep, if you prefer a more cosy show, contact immediately Zel, See you in Ensisheim! Martin Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von rob szep Gesendet: Freitag, 9. Februar 2007 21:59 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Clepto Convention at TUCSON... More show-and-tell and steal sell... Sounds to me like there was a CLEPTOMANIAC Convention happening at Tucson at the same as the Rock Show... Glad I missed the ''show... seems more and more like a giant get-together of two-faced, double-crossin', backstabbin' rock-floggers and rock-snatchers. Looking forward to missing next year's too. Zep, over out... - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, 8 February, 2007 8:41:30 PM Subject: Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 39, Issue 30 Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest... Today's Topics: 1. macovich to come out of semi-retirement? (Darryl Pitt) 2. Re: Fraud or Stolen meteorites in Tucson ??? (JKGwilliam) 3. Re: Lang proxy bid? (JKGwilliam) 4. Re: a few other auction surprises (Eric Twelker) 5. Lang Auction (Bob Evans) 6. Re: Lang Auction (Michael Farmer) 7. Lang Auction (David Weir) 8. Re: Update on Walter (Jose Campos) 9. a few other auction surprises (Mike Fowler) 10. Lang Auction (Bob Evans) 11. Re: a few other auction surprises (Peter Marmet) 12. French Meteorite Hunters Article (Gary K. Foote) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:12:58 -0500 From: Darryl Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] macovich to come out of semi-retirement? To: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed the macovich auction---where there was always staff to accommodate immediate payment property pick-up---is returning to tucson next year. On Feb 8, 2007, at 3:54 PM, Jim Strope wrote: I did NOT volunteer to offer my services for $100- to be your check out person but I am sure you can find some intelligent college student at the U of A that would be happy to do the service for a Hundred Bucks and free beer. (Beer to be consumed after the auction, of course). Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com - Original Message - From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AUCTION RESULTS - Blood and Lang Hi All, Just got back from the big one. Haven't come close to reading all my 473 emails, but I am more convinced than ever that the lack of an additional check out person at my auction is, indeed, a situation in need of correcting. My plan for this year fell through at the last minute but I am now more determined than ever to correct this problem once and for all. Imagine my delight in hearing Jim Strope is willing to perform that duty for only $100! Yippie! You're
[meteorite-list] AD - Elimination of NWA material
I have start to eliminated the all NWA material I have for sale seen I am disgusted of the behavior of some moroccans dealers. I have start to put on ebay some lots of material, type the all pieces of NWA 4419 R chondrite or main mass of NWA 3212 eucriteif you want look here http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=mcomemeteorite Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail: http://it.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] www.venusmeteorite.com - what are your opinions on this claim
Mr. Webb,McCafferty and any interested parties on the list.
If you don't mind, coud you please answer a couple of questions?
Could your Martian impact scenario apply to ejecta from Mercury?
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2003/pdf/1933.pdf
The spatial density (number per unit volume) of meteoroids varies as a
function of distance from the sun, distance from a planet, ecliptic latitude
and longitude Are there any projections on the total number of spatial
meteoroids related to planetary volume?
Do meteoroids tend to group or stream? Or are streams and groupings a rare
occurrence?
Excluding space dust, my feelings are that streams and groups would be
predominant.
Due to a lower escape velocity, would a large asteroid impact on Mercury
close to it's aphelion be more likely to produce ejecta reaching the escape
velocities of Mercury/Sun than a similar event on Venus? Any probability
studies?
(For probability, I would assume the best/worst possible conditions:
equatorial launch, launch relative to planetary rotation, lowest daily
temperature range, and rock composition/density (basaltic mass).
Do you know of any studies with respect to meteoroids in space arriving to
earth as meteorites, do they have totally random trajectories due to collisions
or would they generally follow a straight course from their home
asteroid/planet? To put it quite simply, depending on rotation, impact time,
solar orientation, and impact angle could ejecta from a the inner planets
travel in a relatively straight line away from the sun. And would this same
scenario apply to planets outside earth's orbit. Could they travel in a similar
fashion towards Earth? And could this relate to the Earth's orientation to the
sun at the time of meteroite impact. In other words, would outer planet
meteroids be more likely to fall at night and inner planet meteorids fall
during the day.
Is fusion crust thickness directly related to the mineral characteristics of
density, hardness, melting point, thermal conductivity, and internal
tempurature of the meteoroid? Am I wrong in assuming that it is? Are there
other factors?
Would a shock-heated ejecta upon encountering the extreme cold of space cause
any changes in the density of the underlying material? What about ejecta at
melt temperature?
What would be the effect on micrometeorite pitting on various meteoroids?
Interplanetary dust particles (micro-meteoroids) were expected to form
well-defined craters upon impacting exposed material in space. Studying the
frequency and features of these craters will provide data on the mass-flux
distribution of micro-meteoroids and, to a lesser extent, on the velocity,
magnitude and direction - Study of Meteoroid Impact Craters on Various
Materials, NASA Langley Research Center.
Some of my samples show pitting which may be caused by micro-meteoroid
collisions. Due to the extreme hardness of the sample and sub-millimeter
thickness of the fusion crust these pits have been preserved. The ablated
material gathers on the trailing edge of these pits on orientated samples.
Do you know of any meteorites currently in collections that exhibit pitting?
What are the characteristics of the ablated material?
Are all meteorites tested for density and most specifically hardness?
And could anyone please help me retrieve this article:
author = {{Blanchard}, M.~B.},
title = {Artificial Meteor Ablation Studies},
booktitle = {IAU Colloq. 13: Evolutionary and Physical Properties of
Meteoroids},
year = 1973,
editor = {{Hemenway}, C.~L. and {Millman}, P.~M. and {Cook}, A.~F.},
pages = {241-+},
adsurl =
{http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-bib_query?bibcode=1973eppm.coll..241Bdb_key=AST},
adsnote = {Provided by the Smithsonian/NASA Astrophysics Data System
Randall
Rob,
I was wondering if there would there be any ablation at all on the outbound
martian rock, from a planet with:
Surface atmospheric pressure: ~6.1 mb (about 1/150th that of Earth's)
Surface gas density: ~0.020 kg/m3
Surface temperature: ~210 K (-63 degrees Celsius)
Low escape velocity
And is it possible to achieve such a low impact angle or would gravity and
aerodynamic drag increase the angle so that a 1-3 degree trajectory may not be
possible. I believe existing ballistic models could be combined with a Mars
atmosphere model and gravitational model that might help to answer this
question.
Quite possibly a composite mathematical model borrowing code from the many
existing models might add validity to your theory. I believe Mars atmosphere
models, ballistic, compression, heating, and the myriad are all fairly
constant. It might not be such a large undertaking to help determine if a
lightly shocked rock could be back-spinned into space. I'd really like to see a
model like this applied to the other
Re: [meteorite-list] Langs Auction - Official Statement
Greg, I am aware that you and your brother had a falling out with Al a few years ago, for which reason, when you first opined on the Langs Tucson auction, I chose not to regard your opinion as objective. I have known Al since the early 80's, and freely admit my own opinion is that honesty, integrety and good reputation are part of the package where Al is concerned. Best wishes, Charlie ---BeginMessage--- Hello Charlie and List, I respect your opinion, but I disagree with your term rantings. If you knew what I know of this situation and other non-related dealings, and of the proof Achim Karl produced among other's, than you and the other List members would truly understand the long-term pattern of problems. A simple public statement saying they will make up for their mistakes (or otherwise) does not admit guilt or prove innocence. They need to settle ALL past mistakes and grievances against them. Time in years does not constitute honesty and integrity but it does produce reputation!! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 7:20 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Langs Auction - Official Statement Hello Iris, Thanks for the update. I like to think that most listmembers know better then to pay attention to the rantings of Greg Hupe or Mike Farmer. Best, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ---End Message--- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] www.venusmeteorite.com - what are your opinions on this claim
Ken, I will be happy to share with you some of the data that I've collected at the impact site including videos and pictures. All of the pictures, videos, and samples are stored at my apartment in Lima. I am currently in Arequipa and expect to travel to Lima within the next two weeks. I hope you understand that I can not provide you with the exact location of the crater until I have secured the mining concession rights to the area. When I legally have title to the area, I will make the location known and provide first access only to scientists that study impact sites, then to other interested parties. When the studies are concluded, I will start excavation of the crater. I can give you the approximate location. Coordinates: 15°59'18S - 72°30'43W for the general area of the crater. Coordinates: 16°00'01.71S - 72°37'08.16W seismic epicenter recorded by the National University of Peru (UNSA) intensity 3.8 Richter Coordinates: 16°20'59.77S - 72°46'57.07W seismic epicenter recorded by the Geophysical Institute of Peru (IGP) located in Arequipa, 200 kilometers from the seismic event recorded it at 4.0 Richter giving the approximate TNT for seismic energy yield of 1 kiloton (small atomic bomb). All seismic stations including a station in Chile recorded this event at the exact time the eyewitnesses reported the explosion and resulting dust cloud. What I find to be remarkable is the accuracy of the seismic data, all within 30 km. I've also enclosed a copy of a meeting that I had with seismologists from the Geophysical Institute of Peru. The orginal text was in Spanish which I have translated to English. Unfortunately, I have to blank out the exact coordinates. Many people have strongly cautioned me about giving out too much information. I hope you understand, realize, and appreciate how much work has been put into this discovery. This is just the tip of the iceburg. On a side note, you might recall an image of a face on Mars that was captured some years back. We now have a similar image on Earth. Go to Wikimapia and type rostro de dios in the search box, click on the name, read the caption, and pan out. People said it looked like the Face of God and the name stuck. This image is clearly visible from about 3000ft. to over an altitude of 110 miles. Coordinates are: 1620'22.78S - 7157´40.61W for Google Earth. Comments appreciated. Randall E-Mail dated: ENGLISH VERSION I wish to thank all that attended our meeting yesterday for your time and effort. Maybe we can help the scientific community in Peru and the United States to a better understanding of our universe. I am pleased that I could assist you in calibrating your seismic equipment. Before my wife and I left for Lima, we asked her father to submit a small article to the local newspaper to announce the discovery and to thank the UNSA for their support in this discovery. We never expected that the newspaper would sensationalize this story. During the last expedition, my team and I made two excursions to the impact area. My intention was to fully document the impact zone and to expand the search to see if other structures may exist that would contribute to the discovery. Since it is difficult to estimate the amount of energy released on impact, I believe that it was important to completely document the total area. There may be multiple impacts, secondary impacts, impactites, fused sand, tektites, micro-tektites, with each contributing a piece of information to this story of a hyper velocity impact. The one thing that I hoped would not happen was for other people to go to the impact area and contaminate what is still a structure in a natural state. To document what we talked about, the GPS coordinates of what we called (blanked out) which from this point you can see the crater is (blanked out) with another vantage point closer to the impact is (blanked out). I trust the people at IGP and please (por favor) The only thing I ask from you is that you keep this information from public knowledge until I have completed my study. I have video recorded some parts of the expedition that I would also like to share with you at some time in the very near future. The definitions of some of the terms that I used are listed below. Impactites - glassy, molten rocks can also be produced directly by the high heat and pressure of a meteorite impact or just its shock wave, without projecting the molten material up into our atmosphere. Molten glass and rocks fractured by high pressure have been found near impact craters Tektites - small, pebble-like glassy objects of Earth material that have been melted by meteorite impact, splashed up into our atmosphere, and fallen to Earth again under gravity. They often acquire aerodynamic shapes when they partially melt on their return
Re: [meteorite-list] Cutting a Window
My understanding is that polishing a window is normally used for gemstones. I'm wondering how polishing might affect the internal matrix of a meteorite. Randall Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gary, You can always polish a window instead of cutting one. That is, unless you would like a small end cut to go with the larger stone as well. Have fun! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: Gary K. Foote To: Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:35 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Cutting a Window Hi Listoids, Can anyone offer me good advice on how to cut a window in a meteorite without a lapidary saw? Can a regular table saw be modified for this use? If not, is there anything other than a lap saw that will do a good job? Thanks, Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The CNMNC of the IMA want destroy the historical Troilite
I have notiche the CNMNC of the IMA have decided to eliminated the name Troilite and call this Pirrotite-2H. This is a shameful thing, they want destroy a age-old historical mineral found from Domenico Troili the first time in the Albareto meteorite and after used in all other meteorites! Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail: http://it.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] holbrook expidition?
Hey List!, In from showlow, AZ. Im 40 miles south from holbrook. I was wondering if anyone would like to join me in a hunt for thoes rare stones? Congrad Larry For the big find! Im jealous! I have my own collection of my holbrook finds. My only collection. I use a powerful magnet to find them. I dont think you can use a metal detector out there because of the high iron content in the soil and bullets, etc. Please contact me if you would like to join me in a hunt. Happy hunting!...justin weippert - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] www.venusmeteorite.com - what are your opinions on this claim
Mr. Webb,McCafferty and others. If you don't mind, I have a few more questions. Do you know of a facility that could perform 187Os/186Os ratios testing at a reasonable price? Would element variations and ratios in the fusion crust be indicative of extraterrestrial origin. In other words, would the capture and melting of space dust into the fusion crust, thus causing elemental variances be a good indicator? Do you know of any comparative analysis of the fusion crust/matrix that could be identified as high versus low atmospheric heating? Does rapid atmospheric heating alter the fusion crust differently than terrestrial heating? Do you know if artificial ablation has been compared to natural ablation on meteorites? I tried different types of heat on a sample that I fractured and found that an artificially heated sample created a very different type of fusion crust. The artificial crust was glassy and somewhat brittle. In the vacuum of space, all meteorids would receive solar radiation in varying degrees and cooled by space itself. Could the temperature of a near-earth meteroid be projected from it's mineral characteristics? In other words, we know meteorites are cold, but the question is how cold are they before they reach the Earth's atmosphere? Thanks, Randall - Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cutting a Window
Hi! I have used for my impactites a Ceramic tile saw that uses a 7 inch blade. It does the job for me. You can find those new for between 50 to 100$ Something like this: http://www.monstermarketplace.com/Home/Landing1406a442.html And if you decide to remake your ceramics in your bathroom, you'll have your saw handy hehe Gaetan Cormier Member of the Impact Field Studies Group http://eps.utk.edu/ifsg.htm 2007/2/14, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm not sure that last email went through so I'm sending it again. I don't want anyone to ruin a good saw. Gary and all, I forgot to add, that if you choose to use a table or circular saw, make sure it's an old one that you aren't real concerned about. The cutting dust isn't very good for the bearings. I use an old junker I bought at the flea for 5 bucks. Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The CNMNC of the IMA want destroy the historical Troilite - 2
I have received a notice the person have put the notice have mistaken with another mineral...well Matteo --- M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: I have notiche the CNMNC of the IMA have decided to eliminated the name Troilite and call this Pirrotite-2H. This is a shameful thing, they want destroy a age-old historical mineral found from Domenico Troili the first time in the Albareto meteorite and after used in all other meteorites! Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail: http://it.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail: http://it.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Green inclusions in Udei Station
hello what is it the greem emerald inclusions present in the Udei Station meteorite? Dioptase? Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail: http://it.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite 2008 Calendar
Hello I have idea to build the Meteorite 2008 Calendar with subject inclusions on meteorites. I accept reservations from now, here some examples of photos I put in the calendar, in low resolution http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3894/allende3minfx9.jpg http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2414/mezomadarasmindi1.jpg http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/3487/udeistation4amima7.jpg Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail: http://it.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] valentine's day
Happy valentine's day for all. The History of Saint Valentine's Day Valentine's Day started in the time of the Roman Empire. In ancient Rome, February 14th was a holiday to honour Juno. Juno was the Queen of the Roman Gods and Goddesses. The Romans also knew her as the Goddess of women and marriage. The following day, February 15th, began the Feast of Lupercalia. The lives of young boys and girls were strictly separate. However, one of the customs of the young people was name drawing. On the eve of the festival of Lupercalia the names of Roman girls were written on slips of paper and placed into jars. Each young man would draw a girl's name from the jar and would then be partners for the duration of the festival with the girl whom he chose. Sometimes the pairing of the children lasted an entire year, and often, they would fall in love and would later marry. Under the rule of Emperor Claudius II Rome was involved in many bloody and unpopular campaigns. Claudius the Cruel was having a difficult time getting soldiers to join his military leagues. He believed that the reason was that roman men did not want to leave their loves or families. As a result, Claudius cancelled all marriages and engagements in Rome. The good Saint Valentine was a priest at Rome in the days of Claudius II. He and Saint Marius aided the Christian martyrs and secretly married couples, and for this kind deed Saint Valentine was apprehended and dragged before the Prefect of Rome, who condemned him to be beaten to death with clubs and to have his head cut off. He suffered martyrdom on the 14th day of February, about the year 270. At that time it was the custom in Rome, a very ancient custom, indeed, to celebrate in the month of February the Lupercalia, feasts in honour of a heathen god. On these occasions, amidst a variety of pagan ceremonies, the names of young women were placed in a box, from which they were drawn by the men as chance directed. The pastors of the early Christian Church in Rome endeavoured to do away with the pagan element in these feasts by substituting the names of saints for those of maidens. And as the Lupercalia began about the middle of February, the pastors appear to have chosen Saint Valentine's Day for the celebration of this new feaSt. So it seems that the custom of young men choosing maidens for valentines, or saints as patrons for the coming year, arose in this way. Best wishes - Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Offers pour in for Didim rock - Turkey
http://www.voicesnewspaper.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=490 COLLECTORS from as far as America have offered astronomical prices to get their hands on the famous meteor of Didim. The meteor was claimed by Abdullah Ar?türk when it rocketed to earth and landed at the Green Park complex, in Ye?ilkent, last Thursday, after scores of people across the Bodrum Peninsula reported to police a ball of fire across the sky. Since the story broke, first by Voices, across Turkey and the rest of the world, Ar?türk has been overwhelmed with offers for a part of the meteorite. Ar?türk, not eager to part from his meteor of which he thinks to be a present from God, solved the problem by splitting it into two. He now will keep one half of the meteor in a special cage made for it; and the other half is for sale! American collector Robert Wesel, who read the news in Voices has offered Ar?türk 1,800 dollars. Another American collector Stephan Grossman offered 500 dollars to buy the meteor. We interviewed Abdullah Ar?türk at his house. Ar?türk said that he slept with the meteor at nights and that it was a present from God. Ar?türk stated that he would evaluate the claims but because he could not part with his beloved meteor he had split it in two. He said: ?I will have a special cage made for this meteor and keep it there until my last breath. A lot of people around me have told me to sell it, but ? am unable to spare it. ? wanted at least half of it to stay with me.? The drama unfolded when a substance resembling a ball of fire was seen in the sky above Bodrum Güllük Gulf and Didim. The gendarme and police were overwhelmed with notification calls and the worried farmers had waited outside for hours. The Astronomy and Space Sciences Department of Ege University made an announcement stating the possibility of this being a meteor and later it was certainly determined as that. The news published on the front pages of the national papers had caused great excitement and fear all over Turkey. Following the news being released first in Voices and then in national press, Ar?türk started getting astronomical bids for the meteor that in the end, he finally turned his phone off. Posted by Bjørn Sørheim __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Jesus Christ: Let us talk about meteorites - your favorable markets are an escape from overspending
List, Are you collectors in the trivial sense (hoarders of curiosities)? Stop telling yourselves that your role is equal to that of scientific analysts if you keep a market in your focus. Learn about rocks. Earth is in space. -Thaddeus - Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lampiayrie meteorite fall in 2003
Hi all, especially Marcin Cimala and Mike Farmer and any other members knowing about this meteorite: are there any new facts and a final classification of this fall from Burkina Faso in November 2003 ? Did anybody spend 20 grams for classification ? If not, why not Just looking for clarification and facts as I am one of the owner of two samples of this meteorite Cheers, Christian I.M.C.A. #2673 at http://www.imca.cc www.imca.cc website: http://www.austromet.com www.austromet.com Ing. Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Are you a Meteorite Addict?
Hi Gary, Thanks for the article! It *was* fun reading. I bought my first meteorite at Kitt Peak Observatory about 3 months ago (a 1.25 pound oriented Sikhote-Alin). Then I read about about Bob Haag and saw a program on TV where he was a part of the show. I'm a true novice (11 meteorites so far), but Bob's enthusiasm is contagious, so who knows what the future holds? Regards, Greg Lindh - Original Message - From: Gary K. Footemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.commailto:Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 3:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Are you a Meteorite Addict? A short story by Jim Murray. Fun reading! http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/meteoriteaddict.htmlhttp://www.meteorite-dealers.com/meteoriteaddict.html Enjoy, Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.commailto:Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-listhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] IMCA Site updated Great Work!
Dear List, Anne Black and other IMCA directors, The IMCA Website has been updated. Great work done by them on the update! Check out the new lunar calendar added to the page and tons of information on fakes and scams. Ken Newton has done a tremendous job at keeping up on the market. Thanks Ken! Thanks to all involved! Best, Dirk Ross...Tokyo http://imca.cc/index.php?option=com_frontpageItemid=1 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA Site updated Great Work!
In a message dated 2/11/2007 7:07:08 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear List, Anne Black and other IMCA directors, The IMCA Website has been updated. Great work done by them on the update! Check out the new lunar calendar added to the page and tons of information on fakes and scams. Ken Newton has done a tremendous job at keeping up on the market. Thanks Ken! Thanks to all involved! Best, Dirk Ross...Tokyo http://imca.cc/index.php?option=com_frontpageItemid=1 -- --- Thank you Dirk. Jeff Kuyken and Norbert Classen have been working very hard on that new website. They have transferred most of the information from the old site, but there is more to come. All the pages you found on the old site, like the Field Reports, will re-appear soon. We have plenty of ideas for additional information but we are always willing to listen to suggestions. And the Membership List has been growing too!! Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] DIOGENITE A GO GO...
wake up Listers!!! what about 1.2 Kg of a Gobi DIOGENITE waiting for you at: *http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=190081312408* starting at only $200... ;-) ? Isn't it the deal of the year? Hurry up, you lazy crew! Leandro __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Happy SAFCD!
Thank you, Peter! CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL WITH THE 60-TH ANNIVERSARY OF THIS GREAT FALL FROM RUSSIA! PUT A SMALL SAMPLE OF THE METEORITE INTO A GLASS WITH CHAMPAGNE AND AND DRINK FOR THE FALLING STARS! ALL THE BEST, SERGE. To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 09:06:19 +0100 Subject: [meteorite-list] Happy SAFCD! To All of you: Happy SAFCDSikhote-Alin-Fall-Celebration-Day! Many thanks to Michael for his Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day during the whole month of February! Peter __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Get connected - Use your Hotmail address to sign into Windows Live Messenger now. http://get.live.com/messenger/overview__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Odd Lights, Low Sounds Cause Stir in Maine
Hi There was a fall / find a few years back, 1978. Meteorite impacted a guys garage in Yarmouth Maine, just north of Portland. Also there were 2 finds along a beach. A man found one then a few years later found another, whether same fall or a new one I dont know. Not sure where this one was, might be one of the ones listed below, nor do I remember where I read this story, so could be way off on the details. Ed http://www.scarboroughmaine.com/slct/referen/a03/rp1003.html http://www.maine.gov/doc/nrimc/mgs/explore/minerals/sites/mar99.htm Ed Hello All, This would be Maine's 5th fall of a meteorite if something should be found: Andover - Castine - Nobleborough - Searsmont - Walnut Hill (find) Regards, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Cutting a Window
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Re: [meteorite-list] Some thoughts on Larry Atkin's Recent Holbrook Find
Hola Johnny Q, You may be right, but as large as that piece was, it might have taken a couple of years or so for it to be washed or eroded out. But you are right, it was found near the top of a moundjust slightly down from the top. Even one fragment was found under a cow pie. ;-) The miniscule 69 gms. I found that day (largest fragment 43 gms...one of my better days), just didn't seem worth fussing over after Larry's whopper Holy Grail find. ;-) Congrats to Larrydon't know how you did it, but you did it. Dave JKGwilliam wrote: Bernd, Larry, Maria and List, Here's some more food for thought concerning the Holbrook strewnfield. One of my best friends, Dave Andrews, lives in Holbrook and has hunted the strewnfield hundreds of times. He was Larry and Maria when Larry made his find of a lifetime. Dave and I talked on the phone while the three of them were still out in the field, and Dave told me it was found in an area that many of us had been over dozens of times. How could that be? Over the years, Dave has noted that wind and water erosion probably come into play. After a good wind or rain storm, artifacts ( indian pottery shards) and meteorites become exposed. They seem to appear in places where they weren't just days before. In actuality, they were there all along but were hidden below a thin layer of sand. Anyone who has ever hunter there has noticed that there are small hillocks of sand mounded up around the bases of some of the indigenous shrubs. My guess is that once these shrubs die and are blown away by the winds (which can last for days and reach speeds of 50 MPH and more) the sand moves on without the shrubs there to hold it in place. Several years ago, Dave, John Blennert and I were hunting in Holbrook. While walking along with Dave, he bent over and picked up a small complete stone of about 2 grams. It was perched atop a small column of soil very much like a golf ball sitting on a tee. The soil (mostly sand) around it had blown away leaving the small stone nearly half an inch above the surrounding soil. Best, John Gwilliam At 01:09 PM 2/12/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Larry, Maria, and List, First of all, of course, sincere congratulations! They came to the Southwest and did an amazing job, finding meteorites at Holbrook, Franconia and Gold Basin. .. which should remind us all of Bob Haag's famous words: The key is to get out there and look for them. Usually some pieces were missed in the initial search. But: I had been within 50 feet of Larry's find many, many times and driven by it many more. .. which shows how difficult it can be, even for experienced meteorite hunters like Ruben Garcia. .. which should not discourage anyone willing to search the strewnfield again and again, even though Foote (no, not Gary ;-) remarked in his pre- liminary note on the Holbrook shower in 1912: the field is now pretty well cleaned up. Hmm! If he had known what he didn't know then, ... he was wrong! Here is one of the die-hard observations from Foote's notes: One piece larger than an orange fell into a tree in a yard at Aztec cutting the limb off slick and clean and falling to the ground, and when picked up was almost red-hot. Von Achen, who saw them fall, reported that they were too hot to pick up. Two accounts state that they became lighter in color after cooling. According to Foote's notes, the ellipsoidal strewnfield extended west-east but one question has not yet been answered satisfactorily: Were the stones indiscriminately spread over the ground, or were they found sorted according to size (and weight)? How do Larry's find of a lifetime and Maria's finds fit into this puzzle? Happy to own an 8.3-gram individual (label no. 331) purchased from the Zeitschels in 1987 and a 0.45-gram thin platelet, Bernd P.S.: Please, don't forget to include the Branch family in your thoughts and your prayers ! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan, not garbage
Hello Howard and fellow meteorite collectors: I agree with Michael Blood, not all Nantan are rusters or garbage. Out of all the many hundreds of meteorites that I have collected over some 14 years, one of my favorite slices is a 20.5 inch long by 13.5 inch high slice of Nantan. I did have to treat it with Bill Mason's rust prevention kit, and re-etch it shortly after buying it. This Nantan has stayed quite stable, mounted on a wall for many years now. It is gorgeous. I also have a large Nantan that almost split in two during flight, looks something like a heavy iron butterfly, and it shows no rust while being kept in one of my meteorite show cases for six or more years now, where I use VCI emitters. Keep in mind that I live in Colorado where the air is usually somewhat dry. High regards to all, Fred Hall __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cutting a Window
Hola Gary, List; I have a little masonry saw sort of like a 4 skill saw and it came from Home Depot for $50 included the blade. It would cut stony meteorites as Bill noted, use a wood jawed vice make a rip guide so you cut straight and even, the saw has a water cooling system that attaches to a garden hose, should work fine, I suppose a hack saw might work but a tiny rock trim saw that most rock shops have would do a good job too, just remember to dry correctly to get rid of the water. Dave F. Bill wrote: Gary, If you don't mind cut loss you can cut your meteorites with an inexpensive masonry blade. The blade could be used on a table saw or a circular saw. You can secure the rock to a piece of lumber or put it in a vise, if using a circular saw. Just be very very careful! Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:35:29 -0500 (EST) To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Cutting a Window Hi Listoids, Can anyone offer me good advice on how to cut a window in a meteorite without a lapidary saw? Can a regular table saw be modified for this use? If not, is there anything other than a lap saw that will do a good job? Thanks, Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday Sikhote Alin
well..after 5 days is arrive. Matteo --- M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: 60 years is pass from this fall, I celebrate this birthday showing my SA pieces a 1240 gr. shrapnel http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteorite2006/SikhoteAlin4.JPG a 168 gr. shrapnel, one of my first meteorites http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteorite2006/SikhoteAlin6.JPG 181 grams individual with thumbprints, one of my first meteorites http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteoritecollection/SikhoteAlin6.JPG a 37.35 gr, end piece with nodule http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteorite2006/SikhoteAlin5.JPG a 7.5 gr. bullet oriented, who give to me $700 I give immediatly http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteoritecollection/SikhoteAlin5.JPG a 144 gr. individual with thumbprints and hole called the Dog http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteorite2006/SikhoteAlin8.JPG a 718 gr. individual with thumbprints and hole called the Ashtray http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteorite2006/SikhoteAlin7.JPG a 2253 gr. slice http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteoritecollection/SikhoteAlin.JPG a 1535 gr. shrapnel http://it.geocities.com/tunguska2004/SikhoteAlin9.JPG a 7600 gr. shrapnel http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/492/sikhotealinhz4.jpg and last, in arrive, a over 4 kg. individual with thumbprints. Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail: http://it.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail: http://it.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
