Re: [meteorite-list] CM Photo Cubes (ad)
Hi All, I have had a run on Drake's high end 1 CM Porportion comparison and Orientation cubes. (10mm X 10mm, Top, Bottom, North, South, East, West). As a result I only have 27 left and have had to create a list to make sure those who have ordered one will get one at the show. Here is Drake's description of his cubes: -- Each cube is made of 6061T6 aluminum and are Type II anodized black. The letters are cold formed in the sides prior to anodizing and filled with baked enamel. The anodizing was tested IAW MIL-A-8625 at General Dynamics - OTS Scranton, for salt spray resistance. (A letter of test results is available if desired) The cubes passed this test after over 1,300 hours in a US Army salt fog chamber. (No other scale cube can make this claim!) Each cube comes in a protective container. -- In person you can easily see and feel the quality of these cubes compared to the wooden or plastic versions. See a photo of these at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/DrakeCubeW.jpg Drake sells these for $25 + 6.50 Shipping and Handling (=$31.50). As a Show price ONLY I am offering them for $20 cash ($22 by check - or prior to the show, by PayPal) and you can take them home from the show for zero shipping cost. (If you are placing a winning absentee bid, I can include one for free shipping with your auction purchase). However, you need to be one of the first 27 to email me (off list, of course) to assure one is being held in your name. Best wishes, Michael PS: Apologies for exceeding the one ad per week policy, but the pending auction seems to be something everyone wants to be kept up on - even Though this is a separate issue __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 27, 2008 - Chupaderos
Does anybody have any information that may corroborate this relationship between Kraft and Nininger? Chris, you may ask Dr. Ursula B. Marvin of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). She has authored quite a few papers on famous people in Meteoritics, both professionals and amateurs, and surely knows a lot about Nininger and his backgrounds. Best wishes, Alex Berlin/Germany Original-Nachricht Datum: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:45:43 -0700 Von: CHRIS MONRAD [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: \'Alexander Seidel\' [EMAIL PROTECTED], \'Michael Johnson\' [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 27, 2008 - Chupaderos Alexander, Yes, this is the international food / condiment / cheese conglomerate Kraft, founded by J.L. Kraft in 1903. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_L._Kraft Apparently Kraft went on to develop a rather substantial mineral and semi-precious stone collection as well. The current owner speculates that J. L. Kraft became acquainted with Nininger via the funding of some of Nininger's travels (and subsequently received the Chupaderos specimen as a gift). Does anybody have any information that may corroborate this relationship between Kraft and Nininger? Regards, Chris Monrad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Seidel Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 9:36 AM To: Michael Johnson; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 27, 2008 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/January_27_2008.html Specimen like these surely have a certain tinge or smell of history associated with them, while added by all those stories and documents... A nice addition to Michael Johnson´s website, and by the way, Michael - my hat goes off to you for continued very fine service with your website. Alex Berlin/Germany P.S.: Kraft Foods? Is this the company where a certain Ketchup originates, which you can also buy here...? :-). __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: 1/26/2008 3:45 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: 1/26/2008 3:45 PM __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Presenting Northwest Africa 5000, A Cosmic Masterpiece!
Dear List Members, We would like to take this opportunity to announce Northwest Africa 5000. To keep things straightforward, Northwest Africa 5000 is a Massive, Gorgeous and Unique Feldspathic Leucogabbroic Breccia from the Lunar Highlands. We deem that it is the most impressive meteorite ever found but admittedly there may be some biases involved, we will let you be the judge. Its immense presence influenced more than two dozen enthusiasts to become involved with the supervision of this remarkable meteorite. Every aspect of Northwest Africa 5000 has been micromanaged, representing over 1,600 man-hours of passionate labor over the last five months. There is too much to cover in a single post so we will be providing supplementary information in the upcoming weeks. Several new systems including a rating scale has been developed around this Moon rock. We will get more into this later including the scale key. This rating system is extremely rigid, more so than that of widespread diamonds, common in comparison to material from our Moon. Basically, the scale ranges from 0 for typical lunar material (if there is such a thing) all the way up to a nearly unachievable 10 based on 6 points of criteria. The new rating system is so stringent that it is possible for a Lunaite to rate less than 0. We do not have a sales inventory ready at this time as the prepared slices are still being analyzed and independently rated, however we are on track to make a few nice specimens obtainable at the Tucson Gem and Mineral Show. Please consider hanging onto your hard-earned assets until you have experienced Northwest Africa 5000 as we reason you will be of the same mind that it is the all-time best. Your resources will be best invested in a rock that is destined to become legendary. We will post an announcement when the catalog is finished and where it can be seen in person as it is impossible to capture its beauty by way of image. For those of you who will be attending the Tucson show, I will introduce you to two promotional consultants who are also partners on this massive project, young and understand fun! Here is a link providing more details in Microsoft Word format. There are sub-links imbedded in this document including a huge 3-D movie file, a PDF file and a few standard images. Link to document: http://themeteoritesite.com/NWA5000.doc Thank you for looking and stand by for more enthralling information on the most impressive meteorite ever found! Adam Hupe IMCA 2185 Team LunarRock __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: 227 Grams Of Auctions Ending Tonight 8:30pm
Hi All, I have 227 grams of iron meteorite LOTS ending tonight. 2 Lots of Canyon Diablo for less than .43/g If someone wins BOTH CD LOTS (Total of 223 grams) I'll give them Free shipping and throw in an NWA meteorite just as a thank you! http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZfreel3orn Eric Regards, Eric Wichman www.MeteoriteWatch.com www.MeteoritesUSA.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Question about Jiddat al Harasis 073
List Members, There is currently four eBay offerings of JaH 073 by seller 'freakingcat_gems'. http://tinyurl.com/25j4f6 I've not seen a 'meteorite' like this before, can anyone with a slice confirm or debunk this? And does anyone have a slice photo? Thanks in advance, Ken Newton __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question about Jiddat al Harasis 073
Hi Ken, regarding JaH073 I suggest you contact Hanno Strufe from Germany. I am quite sure he can help you with slice photos and more info on that meteorite. His mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best regards, Alex Berlin/Germany Original-Nachricht Datum: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:11:02 -0500 Von: Ken Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: metlist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Question about Jiddat al Harasis 073 List Members, There is currently four eBay offerings of JaH 073 by seller 'freakingcat_gems'. http://tinyurl.com/25j4f6 I've not seen a 'meteorite' like this before, can anyone with a slice confirm or debunk this? And does anyone have a slice photo? Thanks in advance, Ken Newton __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] another Kem-Kem
Hello Zélimir and List, That's why you find the following comment in Met.Bull 85: Many meteorites lacking first-hand documentation of the find location are being sold by Moroccan rock and mineral dealers, and by people from other countries who have collected material in Morocco. These meteorites are all sold as Moroccan finds, but there are plausible reports that some were actually collected in Algeria or Western Sahara. The reliability of locality information associated with these meteorites is difficult to assess due to the anonymity of all of the finders and most of the original sellers. All such meteorites will henceforth be numbered in a Northwest Africa (NWA) series. The Nomenclature Committee considers it possible that differently numbered specimens are paired with each other or with other named meteorites, and some may even be derived from the same individual object. Meteorites from Morocco. Most of these were purchased from Moroccan dealers. If information was supplied by a dealer about where the specimen may have been collected, this is noted under Possible origin. None of the exact collection locations are known (Meteoritical Bulletin, No. 85, 2001 July). To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New guy introduces himself with a couple of question
Hi Michael, Most of your questions have been answered, BUT I strongly Encourage you to look into the cutting solution sold by Rusty Bill Mason. He is on the cutting edge of meteorite rust, preservation Cutting, etching, etc. (yes, pun intended). I don't know if he wants his email address posted on the list, so, If you contact me off list I will give it to you. If you are going to Tucson, definitely hunt him down. Oil sucks! Rust Sucks! He has Solved those problems. As for a saw - if you are only going to be using it to trim (not Cut slabs) you can, with a little shopping around, get a Decent saw for around $100 OR, if you are in a large town, join The Gem and Mineral Society and you will be able to get one used. There are a number of Tiny saws with 4 blades if you are going to Stay small, but I suggest a 6 with arbor clearance, as you have MUCH More versatility. The last one I got is now entirely enclosed in high End plastic, has a rather small resavour (good for economy) and I think I paid like $184 for it. Other than for slabbing, it is pretty much everything you would want. Then, REALLY IMPORTANT is the blade. I use a 6 size 06 blade that cuts almost as thin as a business card, yet Zips through even agate slices. If I am very patient I can even slab A small stone with it, but that is not what it is made for. The blades Cost $40 and last forever if treated right and you don't cut iron slices With them - though I have cut a few pallasites with mine - and even a Thin iron or two. The point is, you can try to go super cheap ( with a used trim saw - Bulky, heavy, dirty and possibly problematic, but you are still going to Spend $40 on a blade and you can set yourself up for life with a fine, Light, easily cleanable self contained saw for under $200. Whatever you do, get meteorite cutting mixture from Bill Mason, You just mix it with distilled water and you are off and running. Very Need and easily cleaned off (I use 96% alcohol on my pieces - be careful, Very inflammatory) Best wishes, Michael PS: Send me a JPG of yourself for my meteorite friends page. As Mr. Rogers said, Won't you be my neighbor? on 1/28/08 8:57 AM, Michael Gilmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone and List Members!, I hope this is not a breach of list etiquette and if so, I apologize in advance for my indiscretion. I just wanted to take a moment and come out of the shadows where I have been quietly lurking and soaking up the collective wisdom of this group. My name is Michael Gilmer and I am a private newbie collector from southern Louisiana. One of our fellow list members got me started on collecting a year ago, and things have snowballed since then - with my personal collection growing by leaps and bounds. I'm not going to name drop, because he would probably be embarassed to hear me say this, but I consider him my meteorite mentor and his willingness to answer my questions in a friendly and patient matter impressed me quite a bit. So I want to thank him (you know who you are!) and also thank the other members of the list for sharing your immense knowledge of the field of meteorite collecting. I have dived into meteorites head first and started buying up the definitive books in the field - Rocks from Space, Cambridge Encyclopedia, and the like. I've tried to do my homework on the subject and I have tackled it in a similar, almost-obsessive way, that I approached telescopes and eyepieces - another hobby of mine that eats up my time and money! ;) But I still have a couple of nagging questions that I really can't find any answers for using the usual web searching. So I'd like to ask those questions here. :) 1) The IMCA. Is this group for private collectors, or just for collector/dealers who also sell specimens? I was looking over the IMCA website and I read the bylaws - and it appears to be a group of mostly dealers who police each other and police the general meteorite market looking for frauds and misclassifications, etc. Is there any advantage to joining the IMCA as a private collector with no intention to become a dealer? And if so, how does one go about joining and getting two members to vouch for you, if you are a total newbie to the field and don't have two vouchers? Do I just have to bide my time and earn my chops like everyone else did I assume? 2) Cutting open specimens - lapidary saws and lapidary blades seem to be the most preferred method. But, for cutting small practice specimens, could a diamond blade be adapted for a table saw or other powered saw (that is not a pricey and specialized lapidary saw) and could that be used to cut specimens? Oil fed/cooled saws also seem to be preferred, but could I use a regular saw and have an assistant inject coolant onto the cutting surface while I cut? How important is all of this for slicing in half very small specimens - smaller than a chicken egg
Re: [meteorite-list] New guy introduces himself with a couple ofquestions
Hi Mike, Welcome to the list. I have also seen you on Cloudy Nights, where I think you may have responded to a few of my own posts and in the swap and shop section. I would highly recommend Find a Falling Star by Nininger. A very inspirational book by the greatest meteorite hunter of all time. Easy reading and just fun. I would also recommend the following ebay auction. Why? Because it is my auction! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=130192181445ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=003 As for cutting, I used to cut small meteorites with a lapidary trim saw using distilled water as a coolent. You would not want to do this with certain meteorites but for the vast majority of OCs it is fine. i know some list members have adapted power tools but knowing my mechanical abilty I personally would not. Hope this helps. -Walter Branch __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New guy introduces himself with a couple of questions
Michael: A very good magazine to subscribe to is METEORITE magazine. This is a quarterly issue, edited by Larry and Nancy Lebofsky, who are on this list. Check online at: http://meteoritemag.uark.edu. This magazine provides a wide variety of information and updates on the latest in the meteorite world. Welcome. Dave --- Michael Gilmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone and List Members!, I hope this is not a breach of list etiquette and if so, I apologize in advance for my indiscretion. I just wanted to take a moment and come out of the shadows where I have been quietly lurking and soaking up the collective wisdom of this group. My name is Michael Gilmer and I am a private newbie collector from southern Louisiana. One of our fellow list members got me started on collecting a year ago, and things have snowballed since then - with my personal collection growing by leaps and bounds. I'm not going to name drop, because he would probably be embarassed to hear me say this, but I consider him my meteorite mentor and his willingness to answer my questions in a friendly and patient matter impressed me quite a bit. So I want to thank him (you know who you are!) and also thank the other members of the list for sharing your immense knowledge of the field of meteorite collecting. I have dived into meteorites head first and started buying up the definitive books in the field - Rocks from Space, Cambridge Encyclopedia, and the like. I've tried to do my homework on the subject and I have tackled it in a similar, almost-obsessive way, that I approached telescopes and eyepieces - another hobby of mine that eats up my time and money! ;) But I still have a couple of nagging questions that I really can't find any answers for using the usual web searching. So I'd like to ask those questions here. :) 1) The IMCA. Is this group for private collectors, or just for collector/dealers who also sell specimens? I was looking over the IMCA website and I read the bylaws - and it appears to be a group of mostly dealers who police each other and police the general meteorite market looking for frauds and misclassifications, etc. Is there any advantage to joining the IMCA as a private collector with no intention to become a dealer? And if so, how does one go about joining and getting two members to vouch for you, if you are a total newbie to the field and don't have two vouchers? Do I just have to bide my time and earn my chops like everyone else did I assume? 2) Cutting open specimens - lapidary saws and lapidary blades seem to be the most preferred method. But, for cutting small practice specimens, could a diamond blade be adapted for a table saw or other powered saw (that is not a pricey and specialized lapidary saw) and could that be used to cut specimens? Oil fed/cooled saws also seem to be preferred, but could I use a regular saw and have an assistant inject coolant onto the cutting surface while I cut? How important is all of this for slicing in half very small specimens - smaller than a chicken egg for example? 3) Getting specimen classified. Is there a preferred place to have this done? I notice there are several places that offer this service and they vary. Is there one predominate service or are they all equally authoritative? Again, my sincere thanks to the group for providing such a wealth of info and ads! - yes, I have been buying some of your specimens - several of you. ;) Regards and happy hunting! Mike Gilmer Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Links to More Images of Tucson Auction Piece
Dear List Members, For your consideration here are some more links to piece, AH8 entered in Michael Blood's Auction: http://themeteoritesite.com/Slice-Image-a.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/Slice-Image-b.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/Slice-Image-c.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/Slice-Image-d.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/Slice-Image-e.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/Slice-Image-j.jpg Best Regards, Adam __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question about Jiddat al Harasis 073
Hi Ken, I looked at the meteorites and while I think they are likely correct, I would never buy and ordinary chondrite with TKW of over 500Kg, by the carrot weight. I bought a bit of JaH 073 from Ivan a couple years ago and there is some weird color in it. The iron stained it red in places. There are some other cool colors and structures. Check out my incident light micrographs of it on my gallery http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/meteorites-alpha_frame.htm Just click on the alphabetical sort and the first set of JaH 073. The second set is in Xpol. Tom In a message dated 1/28/2008 12:16:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: List Members, There is currently four eBay offerings of JaH 073 by seller 'freakingcat_gems'. http://tinyurl.com/25j4f6 I've not seen a 'meteorite' like this before, can anyone with a slice confirm or debunk this? And does anyone have a slice photo? Thanks in advance, Ken Newton __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Presenting Northwest Africa 5000, A Cosmic Masterpiece!
To see a photo of a this stunning Lunar see lot #8 at: http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/TucsonAuction08.html If you click on the photo - a much larger image will Be available. Best wishes, Michael on 1/28/08 9:06 AM, Adam Hupe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear List Members, We would like to take this opportunity to announce Northwest Africa 5000. To keep things straightforward, Northwest Africa 5000 is a Massive, Gorgeous and Unique Feldspathic Leucogabbroic Breccia from the Lunar Highlands. We deem that it is the most impressive meteorite ever found but admittedly there may be some biases involved, we will let you be the judge. Its immense presence influenced more than two dozen enthusiasts to become involved with the supervision of this remarkable meteorite. Every aspect of Northwest Africa 5000 has been micromanaged, representing over 1,600 man-hours of passionate labor over the last five months. There is too much to cover in a single post so we will be providing supplementary information in the upcoming weeks. Several new systems including a rating scale has been developed around this Moon rock. We will get more into this later including the scale key. This rating system is extremely rigid, more so than that of widespread diamonds, common in comparison to material from our Moon. Basically, the scale ranges from 0 for typical lunar material (if there is such a thing) all the way up to a nearly unachievable 10 based on 6 points of criteria. The new rating system is so stringent that it is possible for a Lunaite to rate less than 0. We do not have a sales inventory ready at this time as the prepared slices are still being analyzed and independently rated, however we are on track to make a few nice specimens obtainable at the Tucson Gem and Mineral Show. Please consider hanging onto your hard-earned assets until you have experienced Northwest Africa 5000 as we reason you will be of the same mind that it is the all-time best. Your resources will be best invested in a rock that is destined to become legendary. We will post an announcement when the catalog is finished and where it can be seen in person as it is impossible to capture its beauty by way of image. For those of you who will be attending the Tucson show, I will introduce you to two promotional consultants who are also partners on this massive project, young and understand fun! Here is a link providing more details in Microsoft Word format. There are sub-links imbedded in this document including a huge 3-D movie file, a PDF file and a few standard images. Link to document: http://themeteoritesite.com/NWA5000.doc Thank you for looking and stand by for more enthralling information on the most impressive meteorite ever found! Adam Hupe IMCA 2185 Team LunarRock __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New guy introduces himself with a couple of questions
Hi Michael, Great to see you on the list! You'll meet a lot of wonderful people here who are always willing to answer your questions. I look forward to your posts and hope you make many meteorite friends. Best to you Mike, Bob On Jan 28, 2008 10:57 AM, Michael Gilmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone and List Members!, I hope this is not a breach of list etiquette and if so, I apologize in advance for my indiscretion. I just wanted to take a moment and come out of the shadows where I have been quietly lurking and soaking up the collective wisdom of this group. My name is Michael Gilmer and I am a private newbie collector from southern Louisiana. One of our fellow list members got me started on collecting a year ago, and things have snowballed since then - with my personal collection growing by leaps and bounds. I'm not going to name drop, because he would probably be embarassed to hear me say this, but I consider him my meteorite mentor and his willingness to answer my questions in a friendly and patient matter impressed me quite a bit. So I want to thank him (you know who you are!) and also thank the other members of the list for sharing your immense knowledge of the field of meteorite collecting. I have dived into meteorites head first and started buying up the definitive books in the field - Rocks from Space, Cambridge Encyclopedia, and the like. I've tried to do my homework on the subject and I have tackled it in a similar, almost-obsessive way, that I approached telescopes and eyepieces - another hobby of mine that eats up my time and money! ;) But I still have a couple of nagging questions that I really can't find any answers for using the usual web searching. So I'd like to ask those questions here. :) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New guy introduces himself with a couple of questions
Hi Michael and welcome to the hobby(obsession) . I have some thoughts on your questions: Asking questions is not a breach of list etiquette at all. Every question you ask will benefit you and the lurkers that are too shy to ask questions. 1) IMCA; Your comment in my opinion is very accurate, the IMCA seems to be more important for dealers to belong to. This list, Meteorite Magazine and Books are better sources of info for people new to the hobby. The two books you mentioned are the ones to start with. I also recommend _Find a Falling Star_ by H.H. Nininger (out of print, but relatively easy to find). I also recommend _Meteorites, Ice and Antarctica_ by Cassidy. 2) Cutting meteorites; you can use a tile saw blade obtainable to Home Depot, etc. Using a wet saw in a table saw is a problem, water and cast iron do not mix well. There are inexpensive tile saws available through Harbor Freight and the big box home stores (Home Depot, Lowes etc). There is also the Ameritool 4 inch wet saw. This saw will actually work with a 5 saw blade. The problem with tile saws and general use diamond blades is that they cut a wide kerf and consume a lot of the meteorite in the cutting process. The Ameritool saw can use diamond blades that will cut a kerf of less than 0.020. 3) Cutting small stones: The Ameritool saw is very easy to use and non-intimidating. I hand hold small stones down to less than 1 long for cutting with the Ameritool saw with great safety. Best Regards, Pat Brown Scientific Lifestyle Meteorites --- Michael Gilmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone and List Members!, I hope this is not a breach of list etiquette and if so, I apologize in advance for my indiscretion. I just wanted to take a moment and come out of the shadows where I have been quietly lurking and soaking up the collective wisdom of this group. My name is Michael Gilmer and I am a private newbie collector from southern Louisiana. One of our fellow list members got me started on collecting a year ago, and things have snowballed since then - with my personal collection growing by leaps and bounds. I'm not going to name drop, because he would probably be embarassed to hear me say this, but I consider him my meteorite mentor and his willingness to answer my questions in a friendly and patient matter impressed me quite a bit. So I want to thank him (you know who you are!) and also thank the other members of the list for sharing your immense knowledge of the field of meteorite collecting. I have dived into meteorites head first and started buying up the definitive books in the field - Rocks from Space, Cambridge Encyclopedia, and the like. I've tried to do my homework on the subject and I have tackled it in a similar, almost-obsessive way, that I approached telescopes and eyepieces - another hobby of mine that eats up my time and money! ;) But I still have a couple of nagging questions that I really can't find any answers for using the usual web searching. So I'd like to ask those questions here. :) 1) The IMCA. Is this group for private collectors, or just for collector/dealers who also sell specimens? I was looking over the IMCA website and I read the bylaws - and it appears to be a group of mostly dealers who police each other and police the general meteorite market looking for frauds and misclassifications, etc. Is there any advantage to joining the IMCA as a private collector with no intention to become a dealer? And if so, how does one go about joining and getting two members to vouch for you, if you are a total newbie to the field and don't have two vouchers? Do I just have to bide my time and earn my chops like everyone else did I assume? 2) Cutting open specimens - lapidary saws and lapidary blades seem to be the most preferred method. But, for cutting small practice specimens, could a diamond blade be adapted for a table saw or other powered saw (that is not a pricey and specialized lapidary saw) and could that be used to cut specimens? Oil fed/cooled saws also seem to be preferred, but could I use a regular saw and have an assistant inject coolant onto the cutting surface while I cut? How important is all of this for slicing in half very small specimens - smaller than a chicken egg for example? 3) Getting specimen classified. Is there a preferred place to have this done? I notice there are several places that offer this service and they vary. Is there one predominate service or are they all equally authoritative? Again, my sincere thanks to the group for providing such a wealth of info and ads! - yes, I have been buying some of your specimens - several of you. ;) Regards and happy hunting! Mike Gilmer Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all
[meteorite-list] New guy introduces himself with a couple of questions
Hello Everyone and List Members!, I hope this is not a breach of list etiquette and if so, I apologize in advance for my indiscretion. I just wanted to take a moment and come out of the shadows where I have been quietly lurking and soaking up the collective wisdom of this group. My name is Michael Gilmer and I am a private newbie collector from southern Louisiana. One of our fellow list members got me started on collecting a year ago, and things have snowballed since then - with my personal collection growing by leaps and bounds. I'm not going to name drop, because he would probably be embarassed to hear me say this, but I consider him my meteorite mentor and his willingness to answer my questions in a friendly and patient matter impressed me quite a bit. So I want to thank him (you know who you are!) and also thank the other members of the list for sharing your immense knowledge of the field of meteorite collecting. I have dived into meteorites head first and started buying up the definitive books in the field - Rocks from Space, Cambridge Encyclopedia, and the like. I've tried to do my homework on the subject and I have tackled it in a similar, almost-obsessive way, that I approached telescopes and eyepieces - another hobby of mine that eats up my time and money! ;) But I still have a couple of nagging questions that I really can't find any answers for using the usual web searching. So I'd like to ask those questions here. :) 1) The IMCA. Is this group for private collectors, or just for collector/dealers who also sell specimens? I was looking over the IMCA website and I read the bylaws - and it appears to be a group of mostly dealers who police each other and police the general meteorite market looking for frauds and misclassifications, etc. Is there any advantage to joining the IMCA as a private collector with no intention to become a dealer? And if so, how does one go about joining and getting two members to vouch for you, if you are a total newbie to the field and don't have two vouchers? Do I just have to bide my time and earn my chops like everyone else did I assume? 2) Cutting open specimens - lapidary saws and lapidary blades seem to be the most preferred method. But, for cutting small practice specimens, could a diamond blade be adapted for a table saw or other powered saw (that is not a pricey and specialized lapidary saw) and could that be used to cut specimens? Oil fed/cooled saws also seem to be preferred, but could I use a regular saw and have an assistant inject coolant onto the cutting surface while I cut? How important is all of this for slicing in half very small specimens - smaller than a chicken egg for example? 3) Getting specimen classified. Is there a preferred place to have this done? I notice there are several places that offer this service and they vary. Is there one predominate service or are they all equally authoritative? Again, my sincere thanks to the group for providing such a wealth of info and ads! - yes, I have been buying some of your specimens - several of you. ;) Regards and happy hunting! Mike Gilmer Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New guy introduces himself with a couple of questions
Hello Michael: This is what happens when you go out to a lunch meeting. It appears that you have already gotten some very good advice from others on the listserv. However, now that Dave has brought up the subject, please do consider a subscription to Meteorite magazine. We have articles on a variety of topics meant for a broad audience: casual collectors, serious collectors, buyers/sellers. and even scientists. If you would like a copy, please email me offline and I can send you a copy. If you are in Tucson, I will be at the Gem and Mineral Show for the entire time, which is easy since Nancy and I actually live here and not in Arkansas where the magazine is published. Welcome to the list! Larry On Mon, January 28, 2008 2:10 pm, David Pensenstadler wrote: Michael: A very good magazine to subscribe to is METEORITE magazine. This is a quarterly issue, edited by Larry and Nancy Lebofsky, who are on this list. Check online at: http://meteoritemag.uark.edu. This magazine provides a wide variety of information and updates on the latest in the meteorite world. Welcome. Dave --- Michael Gilmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone and List Members!, I hope this is not a breach of list etiquette and if so, I apologize in advance for my indiscretion. I just wanted to take a moment and come out of the shadows where I have been quietly lurking and soaking up the collective wisdom of this group. My name is Michael Gilmer and I am a private newbie collector from southern Louisiana. One of our fellow list members got me started on collecting a year ago, and things have snowballed since then - with my personal collection growing by leaps and bounds. I'm not going to name drop, because he would probably be embarassed to hear me say this, but I consider him my meteorite mentor and his willingness to answer my questions in a friendly and patient matter impressed me quite a bit. So I want to thank him (you know who you are!) and also thank the other members of the list for sharing your immense knowledge of the field of meteorite collecting. I have dived into meteorites head first and started buying up the definitive books in the field - Rocks from Space, Cambridge Encyclopedia, and the like. I've tried to do my homework on the subject and I have tackled it in a similar, almost-obsessive way, that I approached telescopes and eyepieces - another hobby of mine that eats up my time and money! ;) But I still have a couple of nagging questions that I really can't find any answers for using the usual web searching. So I'd like to ask those questions here. :) 1) The IMCA. Is this group for private collectors, or just for collector/dealers who also sell specimens? I was looking over the IMCA website and I read the bylaws - and it appears to be a group of mostly dealers who police each other and police the general meteorite market looking for frauds and misclassifications, etc. Is there any advantage to joining the IMCA as a private collector with no intention to become a dealer? And if so, how does one go about joining and getting two members to vouch for you, if you are a total newbie to the field and don't have two vouchers? Do I just have to bide my time and earn my chops like everyone else did I assume? 2) Cutting open specimens - lapidary saws and lapidary blades seem to be the most preferred method. But, for cutting small practice specimens, could a diamond blade be adapted for a table saw or other powered saw (that is not a pricey and specialized lapidary saw) and could that be used to cut specimens? Oil fed/cooled saws also seem to be preferred, but could I use a regular saw and have an assistant inject coolant onto the cutting surface while I cut? How important is all of this for slicing in half very small specimens - smaller than a chicken egg for example? 3) Getting specimen classified. Is there a preferred place to have this done? I notice there are several places that offer this service and they vary. Is there one predominate service or are they all equally authoritative? Again, my sincere thanks to the group for providing such a wealth of info and ads! - yes, I have been buying some of your specimens - several of you. ;) Regards and happy hunting! Mike Gilmer _ ___ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ ___ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[meteorite-list] Jiddat al Harasis 073 (I need a Some!)
Hello List, I just looked at Tom's pictures of JaH 073, Wow!! That's one of the best looking meteorites I've ever seen through the 'scope. That said, who has a piece for sale? Contact me off list please. Thanks, Larry **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New guy introduces himself with a couple of questions
Welcome Michael; You asked about a diamond saw when cutting small specimens.A tile saw works well if you clamp the specimen securely.I use a regular tile saw with a sliding table bought at Lowe's.The blade is rather thick that comes with it,but you can purchase cubic boron blades and probably some others that are thinner.Mine is a 6 bladed saw.( Hope this helps ). The IMCA is a good organization for meteorite collectors and dealers,i belong and will occasionally sell some items that are excess in my collection,of course,I am a collector.Maybe i feel that belonging to the IMCA helps keep me honest and gives me a feeling that fellow members are likewise honest and straight foreward in their transactions ( it has been so ).Many dealers don't belong and they are honest and trustworthy.I guess it is a matter of personal preference as to the degree that someone wants to go to get involved in collecting anything.Meteorites are one of the greatest fascinations to me and i love to possess them.Seems you do too.That's good and again welcome aboard.( collector of meteorites )! Best Regards:Herman Archer IMCA # 2770 **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Presenting Northwest Africa 5000, A Cosmic Masterpiece!
Wow, That is an awesome Lunar. I'll take a 500 gram slice ;-) - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:06 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Presenting Northwest Africa 5000,A Cosmic Masterpiece! Dear List Members, We would like to take this opportunity to announce Northwest Africa 5000. To keep things straightforward, Northwest Africa 5000 is a Massive, Gorgeous and Unique Feldspathic Leucogabbroic Breccia from the Lunar Highlands. We deem that it is the most impressive meteorite ever found but admittedly there may be some biases involved, we will let you be the judge. Its immense presence influenced more than two dozen enthusiasts to become involved with the supervision of this remarkable meteorite. Every aspect of Northwest Africa 5000 has been micromanaged, representing over 1,600 man-hours of passionate labor over the last five months. There is too much to cover in a single post so we will be providing supplementary information in the upcoming weeks. Several new systems including a rating scale has been developed around this Moon rock. We will get more into this later including the scale key. This rating system is extremely rigid, more so than that of widespread diamonds, common in comparison to material from our Moon. Basically, the scale ranges from 0 for typical lunar material (if there is such a thing) all the way up to a nearly unachievable 10 based on 6 points of criteria. The new rating system is so stringent that it is possible for a Lunaite to rate less than 0. We do not have a sales inventory ready at this time as the prepared slices are still being analyzed and independently rated, however we are on track to make a few nice specimens obtainable at the Tucson Gem and Mineral Show. Please consider hanging onto your hard-earned assets until you have experienced Northwest Africa 5000 as we reason you will be of the same mind that it is the all-time best. Your resources will be best invested in a rock that is destined to become legendary. We will post an announcement when the catalog is finished and where it can be seen in person as it is impossible to capture its beauty by way of image. For those of you who will be attending the Tucson show, I will introduce you to two promotional consultants who are also partners on this massive project, young and understand fun! Here is a link providing more details in Microsoft Word format. There are sub-links imbedded in this document including a huge 3-D movie file, a PDF file and a few standard images. Link to document: http://themeteoritesite.com/NWA5000.doc Thank you for looking and stand by for more enthralling information on the most impressive meteorite ever found! Adam Hupe IMCA 2185 Team LunarRock __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New guy introduces himself with a couple of questions
In a message dated 1/28/2008 9:57:39 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1) The IMCA. Is this group for private collectors, or just for collector/dealers who also sell specimens? I was looking over the IMCA website and I read the bylaws - and it appears to be a group of mostly dealers who police each other and police the general meteorite market looking for frauds and misclassifications, etc. Is there any advantage to joining the IMCA as a private collector with no intention to become a dealer? And if so, how does one go about joining and getting two members to vouch for you, if you are a total newbie to the field and don't have two vouchers? Do I just have to bide my time and earn my chops like everyone else did I assume? 3) Getting specimen classified. Is there a preferred place to have this done? I notice there are several places that offer this service and they vary. Is there one predominate service or are they all equally authoritative? Again, my sincere thanks to the group for providing such a wealth of info and ads! - yes, I have been buying some of your specimens - several of you. ;) Regards and happy hunting! Mike Gilmer --- Hello Mike, Welcome to the List, and I am glad you finally decided to come out of the shadows. And if you have any questions, go ahead, just ask. Most of us on the List are usually well-behaved. As for the IMCA, yes, I am Vice-President, and one of the founding members. The Association is open to anyone who supports the principle of Authenticity. If you have explored Ebay, or the Net, at all, you have probably noticed that quite a few questionable or completely fake meteorites come on the market. We try our best to educate the people selling those and to help them get their rocks checked. Not just our Members. And we now have close to 250 members all over the world and they all guarantee that they will sell only authentic meteorites to collectors like you. As for the 2 sponsoring members we require, is your mentor a member? You say you have bought from several of us, were they members? If you have any additional questions please email me off-list. As for the classification labs., most of them, and the most well-known, are listed on the IMCA website. Personally I have dealt mostly with the University of Arizona in Tucson. But then I will be there in just a few days. I certainly hope this will help. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] another Kem-Kem
Hi Jeff, Dean, Bernd, I totally agree with Jeff: Kem-Kem was another current name for meteorites found when the Sahara rush started. Here is another exemple: I purchased in 1998 from Michel Franco, the main mass of Kem-Kem, a nicely oriented black-crusted cut individual weighing 942.5 g, though a simple L6 (tkw = 1088 g). He said that he proposed that name but without guarantee it be accepted. It was because he found it at Kem-Kem plateau (a vast area, see maps). Michel felt that this name, at the time original, just could sound well Some time later, Michel kindly notified me that my Kem-Kem received a strange nameNWA 052 ! I presume that at that time, the NWA rush just started, as suggested by the low number. Later, I jumped to the Met. Bull. to look for more info about NWA 052 and, indeed, it is noted that Kem-Kem is a pseudonym of that meteroite. I don't know whether more NWA's did also receive that same pseudo but it could be worth a search through the Met. Bull. database. I take this opportunity to underline the high professionalism and honesty of Michel who is known for long to take care of his customers by informing them with all the follow-up of the meteorites he uses to find and sell. G'night, Zelimir 17:54 27/01/2008 +1100, Jeff Kuyken a écrit : G'day Dean, Yeah that rings a bell. I remember Kem Kem stuff all over ebay back in 2001. I think the whole NWA numbering system was just being done sometime around then too. I think most of the Kem Kem material was just another name for Unclassified NWA. ;-) Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: dean bessey To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] TKW help -- Kem Kem?? In 2000 (Might be 1999 or 2001, I cant remember exactly) this was in BNWA (Before NWA) ex meteorite dealer Michael Casper bought 300 kilos of meteorites (300 kilos was a massive amount of meteorites at a time when even weathered unclassified meteorites were getting $3 a gram on ebay) that he was told was found in the Kem Kem plain near the algerian border. I bought some from this 300 kilo bunch (As did a lot of other dealers and meteorites named Kem Kem was showing up on ebay). After seeing it in person I realized that this was a very large number of strewnfields all mixed together that Casper was selling. At around the same time the meteoritical society was trying to decide how to retain as much information as possible on all the meteorites that were just being sold with no particular pattern in morocco. Jeff Grossman in particular went on a fact finding mission asking dealers selling NWAs (They werent called NWAs back then) what was happening and the best way to accumulate as much info as possible on all of these mixed meteorites (I remember him asking me if the moroccans were cutting them up before selling them). It soon became obvious that TKW and GPS coordinates would not be known and it was decided by the met society that the best way to deal with the less than ideal (but nevertheless present) situation was to create the NWA system that we all now all know and love. I dont know of anything other than this 300 kilos was ever sold as Kem Kem. However, there are a lot of NWA's that originally were a part of Caspers 300 kilos of Kem Kem. Bernd mentions a 14 gram eucrite and my very own historical meteorite NWA001 originally came from this 300 kilos of Kem Kem. There are lots more for sure as this Kem Kem was a very mixed group of meteorites and at that time we all were under the misguided notion that all meteorites from NWA would eventually be classified (Wither they actually all came from the Kem Kem plain or not is another matter and will probably never be known). Thats my Kem Kem memories anyway Cheers DEAN www.meteoriteshop.com AMUNRE on ebay Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re NWA 482
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:59:03 -0600, you wrote: Alas and woe is me. I shall have to rethink how I let my students handle the meteorite specimens. One of them got a little careless and dropped my 10mg NWA 482 and it is no more! My first planetary, a similar sized bit of NWA 998, shared a similar fate. Bought on Ebay from the Hupés, the membrane box managed to get broken (while in my possession, not during shipping). So I had a spare membrane box, opened the broken one, and had a bit of Mars bounce out of the box and into history. :-) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re NWA 482
Alas and woe is me. I shall have to rethink how I let my students handle the meteorite specimens. One of them got a little careless and dropped my 10mg NWA 482 and it is no more! Would anyone on list have a specimen they can part with at a modest cost? It was my first and favorite planetary. I got it from Michael Cottingham on ebay. I sure was broken hearted to lose it. I'm very upset, but that was a risk I took. It was all for a good cause. Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] lost in space
If they were just a little magnetic, the outcome would be a lot different. Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question about Jiddat al Harasis 073
Hola Tracy, Ken, All, Yes, the colour does look a bit off, but in this case I think it might be due to odd photography - the specimens' textures actually look meteoric and some of the pieces reflect light in a way that I would expect from a weathered ordinary chondrite (oxidized metal appears to be shining back in a few shots, etc). What you take to be red flashes I think could be colour-enhanced chondrules... In general it's a good idea to be cautious, but I *think* those are meteorites, and I've yet to be proven wrong on ebay. That said, the seller is charging by the carat - it's a but much for an ordinary chondrite... Regards, Jason On Jan 28, 2008 11:04 AM, tracy latimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This seller is based in Thailand. There are a bunch of good sellers operating out of Thailand, the gem capital of the world (at least for the moment), but there are MANY more bogus sellers of not-what-they-advertise. Although this seller has a reasonable record, I have yet to see a meteorite with gemmy red flashes; anyone remember the notorious Emerald meteorite(s)? I think they got some pretty rocks and slapped a meteorite label on them; either that, or they were told this was a meteorite and took it at face value. Looks more like a ammolite, andesine, or other opalescent-type terrestrial rock to me Tracy Latimer Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:11:02 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Question about Jiddat al Harasis 073 List Members, There is currently four eBay offerings of JaH 073 by seller 'freakingcat_gems'. http://tinyurl.com/25j4f6 I've not seen a 'meteorite' like this before, can anyone with a slice confirm or debunk this? And does anyone have a slice photo? Thanks in advance, Ken Newton __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail(R)-get your fix. http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MESSENGER: A Closer Look at the Previously Unseen Side of Mercury
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_room/status_report_01_28_08.html MESSENGER Mission News January 28, 2008 A Closer Look at the Previously Unseen Side of Mercury Two weeks ago, on January 14, 2008, MESSENGER became the first spacecraft to see the side of Mercury shown in this image. The first image transmitted back to Earth following the flyby of Mercury http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?page=3gallery_id=2image_id=129, and then released to the web within hours, shows the historic first look at the previously unseen side. This image http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?gallery_id=2image_id=141preview=Y, taken by the Wide Angle Camera (WAC) of the Mercury Dual Imaging System (MDIS), shows a closer view of much of that territory. Just above and to the left of center of this image is a small crater with a pronounced set of bright rays extending across Mercury's surface away from the crater. Bright rays are commonly made in a crater-forming explosion when an asteroid strikes the surface of an airless body like the Moon or Mercury. But rays fade with time as tiny meteoroids and particles from the solar wind strike the surface and darken the rays. The prominence of these rays implies that the small crater at the center of the ray pattern formed comparatively recently. This image is one in a planned set of 99. Nine different views of Mercury were snapped in this set to create a mosaic pattern with images in three rows and three columns. The WAC is equipped with 11 narrow-band color filters, and each of the nine different views was acquired through all 11 filters. This image was taken in filter 7, which is sensitive to light near the red end of the visible spectrum (750 nm), and shows features as small as about 6 kilometers (4 miles) in size. The MESSENGER team is studying this previously unseen side of Mercury in detail to map and identify new geologic features and to construct the planet's geological history. Additional information and features from this first flyby will be available online at http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/mer_flyby1.html, so check back frequently. Following the flyby, be sure to check for the latest released images and science results! MESSENGER (MErcury Surface, Space ENvironment, GEochemistry, and Ranging) is a NASA-sponsored scientific investigation of the planet Mercury and the first space mission designed to orbit the planet closest to the Sun. The MESSENGER spacecraft launched on August 3, 2004, and after flybys of Earth, Venus, and Mercury will start a yearlong study of its target planet in March 2011. Dr. Sean C. Solomon, of the Carnegie Institution of Washington, leads the mission as principal investigator. The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory built and operates the MESSENGER spacecraft and manages this Discovery -class mission for NASA. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NASA to Release Science Results and New Images From Mercury Flyby
Jan. 28, 2008 Dwayne Brown Headquarters, Washington 202-358-1726 [EMAIL PROTECTED] MEDIA ADVISORY: M08-019 NASA TO RELEASE SCIENCE RESULTS AND NEW IMAGES FROM MERCURY FLYBY WASHINGTON - NASA will hold a press conference at 1 p.m. EST on Wednesday, Jan. 30, to announce scientific findings and release never-before-seen images of Mercury. The images were taken during a NASA spacecraft's January flyby of the planet. The briefing will take place in the NASA Headquarters' James E. Webb Auditorium, 300 E Street, S.W., Washington, and will be carried live on NASA Television. NASA's MErcury Surface, Space ENvironment, GEochemistry, and Ranging (Messenger) spacecraft is the first mission sent to orbit the planet closest to our sun. After a journey of more than 2 billion miles, the spacecraft made its first flyby of Mercury on Jan. 14. The spacecraft's cameras and other sophisticated, high-technology instruments collected more than 1,200 images and made other observations. Data included the first up-close measurements of Mercury since the Mariner 10 spacecraft's third and final flyby on March 16, 1975. Participants in the press conference will be: - James Green, director, Planetary Science Division, NASA Headquarters, Washington - Sean Solomon, Mesenger principal investigator; director, Department of Terrestrial Magnetism, Carnegie Institution of Washington - Maria Zuber, Messenger science team member; head, Department of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge - Robert Strom, Messenger science team member; professor emeritus, Lunar and Planetary Laboratory, University of Arizona, Tucson - Louise Prockter, instrument scientist for the Mercury Dual Imaging System, Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory, Laurel, Md. Reporters may ask questions from participating NASA locations. The briefing also will be streamed live on NASA's Web site at: http://www.nasa.gov -end- __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - A Lot of New Pieces
Hello, Just a very quick announcement, time is running very short. I have just added ALL my new pieces to my website. You will find there a lot of new pieces from Alamogordo to Zagora, with Patos de Minas (formerly Santa Fe), Laguna Manantiales, Eads, Tres Castillos (huge slice), Santa Clara, a very special slice of Santa Rosa from the Monnig collection, and the brand new Lorenzo (it only took me a year to get it!!) in between. Just take a look: http://www.impactika.com/Metlist.htm And the Catalog of Thin-Sections has been updated too. Almost 200 thin-sections now, with what I inherited from David New: http://www.impactika.com/TSlist.htm I am very sorry, no time for pictures, but I have asked Michael Johnson to publish a picture of Lorenzo and of Patos de Minas as soon as possible. And now I have to finish packing, and I am leaving for Tucson on Wednesday. If you are coming to Tucson, just come see them all in person at the InnSuites, room 230, I will be there the full 2 weeks. If you are not coming, just send me an email, tell me what you would like, I will answer you as quickly as possible. And I will put aside the specimen(s) you want, but I will not be able to mail them until I am back in Denver. And one more thing! If you can't catch up with Capt. Blood to get a CM cube, just come to my room in Tucson or email me, I have about 50 of those aluminum cubes. Yes, the exact same ones. Enjoy all those great new meteorites, and do email me if you have any questions. Thank you. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FW: Rare, Expensive - HONOLULU--- Buy or make offers, not much available!
From: michael cottingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 7:52 PM To: 'michael cottingham' Subject: AD: Rare, Expensive - HONOLULU--- Buy or make offers, not much available! Hello, Honolulu and others for sale. Go to: http://stores.ebay.com/Voyage-Botanica-Natural-History Thanks and Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Another helping of peppered mammoth
I stumbled across this today, I don't think this level of detail (as to spectra and Ni/Fe ratios in the particles) has been presented on the list before (but I could have missed it) http://ie.lbl.gov/mammoth/AGUSF_poster_2.gif Also, there's this: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=741568C2D58A9793 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
