Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger

2010-01-14 Thread Zelimir Gabelica
I just opened my mail and the shock was 
immediate: 51 mails entitled: Christian Anger! 
Could not be some good news.


Christian was, since the first edition of 
Ensisheim show, our brightest light, our 
eternal smiling, a happy to live, cool, 
energetic, joking, teasing, dancing, charming, 
funny, blasting personbut also one of the 
most elegant, gentle, gracious, courteous guys.


When he would show up in Ensisheim (he was among 
the first to comefrom quite far away), he had 
a pack of that strangely delicious Austrian beer for us to taste.
But also lots of meteorites in his bags, for 
ambulant trade and for the consignment room.
The superb 48 g crusted Maigatari-Danduma he 
displayed there for sale as premium, immediately 
went into my collection, along with the text 
describing its weird quest Christian had personally written.


Christian soon became our Brother-Ensi-Meteorite-Guardian.
And he truly deserved this honor, not only 
through his highly avid passion, competence and 
love towards meteorites, but also for his immense 
kindness, enthusiasm and respect towards children and young amateurs.
And, oh yes, the Saturday evening fevers could 
not have been what they were without Christian's deep impact.


I also was so lucky to meet him last November in 
Munich and we promised each-other to have a great Ensisheim again next year.


My friend, now that I start realizing this won't 
happen, I promise you will never be forgotten.
You are our first brother to have gone somewhere 
over there, where you are now, I am sure, happy and in peace.
I am right now planning for your memory some 
special treat next June and am sure all the 
people there will join, so as to be so close to you again.


I will badly miss your strange Austrian beverage!

Jean-Marie Blosser (who does not read our posts) 
and me, on behalf of the whole Ensisheim 
Confraternity of Ensi Meteorite Guardians, are 
joining our heartfelt condolences and sympathy to his family and close friends.


Zelimir



At 23:56 13/01/2010, impact...@aol.com wrote:



Hello everybody,

I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news.
For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite
collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and
lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little
girls.
And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much
happier times.

Anne M. Black
_http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/)
_impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com)
Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
_http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/)

Hello Anne,

today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend
Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died.

I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a
friend.
Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter.
We had also other private contact and were real friends.

At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had
so many private problems in his mind.
Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to
come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in
Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back
into the car sunday afternoon.
This was the last time I saw him.

True friendship never ends..

Hanno Strufe

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Prof. Zelimir Gabelica
Université de Haute Alsace
ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC,
3, Rue A. Werner,
F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France
Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94
Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger

2010-01-14 Thread Jeff Kuyken
I was deeply saddened to read this tragic news. Christian was one of the 
first people I bought a meteorite from and he was only too happy to help me 
out then and at all times. I was delighted that I could serve on the IMCA 
Board with Christian when he was voted onto it in the first election. My 
thoughts are with his close friends and family during this difficult time.


Jeff Kuyken
Meteorites Australia
www.meteorites.com.au
Director - I.M.C.A. Inc.
www.imca.cc



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From: impact...@aol.com

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: h63str...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 9:56 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger




Hello everybody,

I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news.
For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite
collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and
lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little
girls.
And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much
happier times.

Anne M. Black
_http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/)
_impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com)
Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
_http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/)

Hello Anne,

today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend
Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died.

I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a
friend.
Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter.
We had also other private contact and were real friends.

At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had
so many private problems in his mind.
Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to
come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in
Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back
into the car sunday afternoon.
This was the last time I saw him.

True friendship never ends..

Hanno Strufe

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Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger

2010-01-14 Thread i...@niger-meteorite-recon.de
Terrible news, very hard to acknowledge.

People like Christian, and particularly him, made events like Munich and
the Ensisheim show such a great experience. Such an open minded, enthusiatic and
delightful person he was, I can not imagine anybody who did not like him.

So many hillarious summer nights where we all sat together on the Ensisheim
regency square talking, laughing and singing, until the last bottle was
emptied - out out brief candle - it shall be no more. 

Christian, fellow brother of the Ensiheim-meteorite Guardians, companion of
many invaluable moments, you will be truly missed.   

Svend


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[meteorite-list] Christian Anger

2010-01-14 Thread Peter Davidson
Dear List

I too was shocked to hear of the death of Christian. I did get the opportunity 
to speak to him briefly at Ensisheim and he struck me as gentle giant and a 
fine pillar of the meteorite community.  Like Zelimir, when I opened my e-mail 
inbox this morning, a chill went through down my spine when I saw the 50+ mails 
with the subject: Christian Anger. 

My deepest condolences go out to his family for their sad loss. 

Peter Davidson
Curator of Minerals
 
National Museums Collection Centre
National Museums Scotland
242 West Granton Road
Edinburgh
EH5 1JA
Phone: +44 131 247 4283
p.david...@nms.ac.uk
www.nms.ac.uk
 
 

Meet Your Maker, the creative minds behind Scotland’s crafts. National Museum 
of Scotland, 29 January – 14 March.

National Museums Scotland, Scottish Charity, No. SC 011130
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[meteorite-list] WG: Christian

2010-01-14 Thread Martin Altmann
(From Mike) 
 
I am shocked and saddened by the loss of Christian, a friend who was taken
long before his time. 
I met Christian for the first time at the  Gifhorn show, like 1997 perhaps
98. He was one of the friendliest people on this planet, 
always smiling, joking, laughing. Never in a hurry, always drinking wine
(among stronger things) with me every year in Ensisheim  until the sun came
up.
 The meteorite world has lost a true friend, and my prayers are for his
family now. 
Goodbye Christian, it won't be the same without you.
Michael Farmer

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Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger

2010-01-14 Thread Norbert Classen
These are very, very sad news. Christian will truely be missed, and my
thoughts and prayers are with his friends and relatives.

I knew Christian since many years, and he used to visit me at my home prior
to the Ensisheim shows to talk about our favorite passion, and to show off
or to trade rocks from space. He was one of the kindest persons you can
imagine, always friendly and joking, with a big heart at the right place.
His passing away leaves a void that can't be filled.

There are a lot of anecdotes that come to my mind when I think of Christian,
too many to tell. One is a story around the large main mass of HaH 173 which
Christian traded from me years ago. The interior of that L6 was very fresh
(W0-1), but the mass had been buried in the desert and it was totally
covered with a tough caliche coating making it an ugly duckling. However,
Christian could see the swan in it, and in weeks of meticulous work he
manually removed all the caliche - I didn't recognize the mass when he sent
me a picture of it! It really looked like a fresh fall as Christian had
managed to bring out the original fusion crust which was hidden under the
caliche coating.

Christian always had a great passion for his meteorites, and handled them
with utmost care. Whenever he purchased a slice he manually polished it so
that he could also enjoy it under the microscope. He was an exemplary
curator of his space rocks, second to none. And he was a great guy, a real
buddy. I had the pleasure to serve with him on the IMCA Board of Directors,
the pleasure to have him as a fellow Brother of the Ensisheim Meteorite
Brotherhood of Guardians, and - last but not least - as a friend.

Christian: your great sense of humor and your passion will sorely be missed.
Godspeed!

Norbert Classen
President IMCA Inc.

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-

Hello everybody,
 
I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news.
For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite
collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and
lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little
girls.
And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much
happier times.
 
Anne M. Black
_http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_
(mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
_http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) 

Hello Anne,

today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend
Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died.

I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a
friend.
Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter.
We had also other private contact and were real friends.

At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had
so many private problems in his mind.
Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to
come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in
Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back
into the car sunday afternoon.
This was the last time I saw him.

True friendship never ends..

Hanno Strufe

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[meteorite-list] Christian Anger + Gero Kurat (1938-2009)

2010-01-14 Thread Jörn Koblitz
I am deeply saddened to learn about the death of Christian, a fellow collector 
and friend for so many many years.

Sadly, this is not the only terrible news from Austria, recently:

Prof. Gero Kurat, the former curator of the meteorite collection at the Natural 
History Museum in Vienna, Austria, and past president of the Meteoritical 
Society died on November 27, 2009, at the age of only 71.

http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/news_display.cfm?code=news_introitemID=51CFID=3978395CFTOKEN=27350152

http://solarsystem.wustl.edu/2009/12/01/gerot-kurat/

Both great individuals will truly be missed! My sincere condolences to his 
families and friends. 

Joern Koblitz


 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]im Auftrag von
 impact...@aol.com
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Januar 2010 23:57
 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Cc: h63str...@aol.com
 Betreff: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
 
 
 
 
 Hello everybody,
  
 I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news.
 For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an 
 expert meteorite 
 collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an 
 Engineer, and 
 lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and 
 two little 
 girls.
 And I still remember when we were waltzing together in 
 Ensisheim, in much 
 happier times.
  
 Anne M. Black
 _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) 
 _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) 
 Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
 _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) 
 
 Hello Anne,
 
 today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend 
 Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident 
 and he died.
 
 I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a 
 collector but a 
 friend.
 Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter.
 We had also other private contact and were real friends.
 
 At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, 
 because he had 
 so many private problems in his mind.
 Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that 
 he decided to 
 come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and 
 stayed in 
 Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of 
 my material back 
 into the car sunday afternoon.
 This was the last time I saw him.
 
 True friendship never ends..
 
 Hanno Strufe
 
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[meteorite-list] AD - ebay auctions ending on Saturday

2010-01-14 Thread meteoriteshow
Dear Fellow Listees,

Our ebay auctions ending on Saturday can be seen at:
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They include:

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[meteorite-list] 2010 AL30-- Fregat about it!

2010-01-14 Thread Darren Garrison
http://www.planetary.org/blog/article/2305/
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Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger

2010-01-14 Thread valparint
I never met Christian but I have had a few dealings via email - always a happy 
experience.

We all know, deep down, that life is transitory and can disappear in an 
instant, but it's still shocking when it hits close to home.

Paul Swartz
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Men teasers

2010-01-14 Thread Rob Wesel

Quite a few shorts are up on the Science Channel websitecan't wait.

http://science.discovery.com/videos/meteorite-men-backhoe.html

Rob Wesel
www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
www.facebook.com/nakhladog
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and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
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[meteorite-list] Free Spirit

2010-01-14 Thread ensoramanda
Noticed this also on your link Darren.seems they have taken notice of one 
of my earlier posts suggesting this method!   -;)

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/spotlight/20100113a.html

Graham

 Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net wrote: 
 http://www.planetary.org/blog/article/2305/
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Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger

2010-01-14 Thread Robert Woolard
Anne had written : 

 Hello Robert and all,
 
From an ancient German French Dictionary I have here,
 Anger meant meadow or pasture.
 A much more peaceful, pleasant, and appropriate meaning.
  
 Maybe someone from across the Atlantic can come up with a
 better tranlation.
 
 Anne M. Black
 http://www.impactika.com/
 impact...@aol.com
 Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
 http://www.imca.cc/ 

    
 
   Thank you, Anne. You are right. That translation is MUCH more appropriate 
and fitting for the happy nature of Christian.

   Sincerely,
   Robert Woolard









  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger

2010-01-14 Thread Matthias Bärmann

Hello Robert, Anne, list,

Anger is a medieval German word which means place, covered by grass or, 
more concrete: a public place like a meadow f.e. which could be used by all 
inhabitants of a village or a small town, for meeting, coming together, for 
dancing, for herding the cattle during the night. This meaning has a 
pleasant aura of common life, relaxation, celebration, intimacy.


If you like, please listen to Uf dem anger, a medieval poem with music by 
Carl Orff (Carmina Burana) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8FR5tft6G0 , 
evoking the villagers on the Anger, celebrating the beginning of 
springtime, the awakening of nature after a long winter (Anne Black in the 
Rockies, listen!).


As I already wrote on the German meteorite forum, I knew Christian only by 
email-exchange. I sent him the last mail on dec. 10th, only four days before 
he died. He was so patient, open-minded and friendly, this sudden death is 
really hard to believe.


So let's stay together.

With best regards,

Matthias


- Original Message - 
From: Robert Woolard meteoritefin...@yahoo.com

To: impact...@aol.com
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger


Anne had written :

Hello Robert and all,


From an ancient German French Dictionary I have here,

Anger meant meadow or pasture.
A much more peaceful, pleasant, and appropriate meaning.

Maybe someone from across the Atlantic can come up with a
better tranlation.

Anne M. Black
http://www.impactika.com/
impact...@aol.com
Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
http://www.imca.cc/ 



 Thank you, Anne. You are right. That translation is MUCH more 
appropriate and fitting for the happy nature of Christian.


Sincerely,
Robert Woolard










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Re: [meteorite-list] Scientists Publish 1st Ever Evidence of Asteroids with Earth-like Crust

2010-01-14 Thread Greg Catterton
I think a good amount of Earth had to have been tossed into space just from 
Meteor Crater impact (forgetting that many other much larger impacts have taken 
place)

It seems very possible to me that such material could make its way back to 
Earth in time, or even shortly after impact if the escape velocity was not 
strong enough to completely break free from Earths gravity.


Greg C.


--- On Thu, 1/14/10, Murray Paulson murray.paul...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Murray Paulson murray.paul...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scientists Publish 1st Ever Evidence of  
 Asteroids with Earth-like Crust
 To: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:05 PM
 HI:
  
 It is interesting to speculate that the Earth may be
 hit by meteorites that have orriginated from earth. In the
 relatively recent past, the earth has been
 struck by large enough bodies that could hurl material off
 into orbits around the sun. 65 million years is within
 reason as a recent episode. I believe that some
 of the Martian meteorites have cosmic ray exposures of 20
 million years or more.
 
  
 So, How much would a Meteorite from earth be
 worth???
  
 Murray Paulson
 
 
 On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 10:51 PM,
 Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
 Not
 sure if I missed this on here, very nice read!
 
 http://www.newsdesk.umd.edu/scitech/release.cfm?ArticleID=1812
 
 
 part of the story:
 
 Scientists Publish 1st Ever Evidence of Asteroids
 with Earth-like Crust.
 COLLEGE PARK, Md. - Two rare meteorites found in Antarctica
 two years ago are from a previously unknown, ancient
 asteroid with an outer layer or crust similar in composition
 to the crust of Earth's continents, reports a research
 team primarily composed of geochemists from the University
 of Maryland.
 
 
 Published in the January 8 issue of the journal Nature,
 this is the first ever finding of material from an asteroid
 with a crust like Earth's. The discovery also represents
 the oldest example of rock with this composition ever
 found.
 
 
 These meteorites point to previously unrecognized
 diversity of materials formed early in the history of
 the Solar System, write authors James Day, Richard Ash,
 Jeremy Bellucci, William McDonough and Richard Walker of the
 University of Maryland; Yang Liu and Lawrence Taylor of the
 University of Tennessee and Douglas Rumble III of the
 Carnegie Institution for Science.
 
 
 What is most unusual about these rocks is that they
 have compositions similar to Earth's andesite
 continental crust -- what the rock beneath our feet is made
 of, said first author Day, who is a research scientist
 in Maryland's department of geology. No meteorites
 like this have ever been seen before.
 
 
 Day explained that his team focused their investigations on
 how such different Solar System bodies could have crusts
 with such similar compositions. We show that this
 occurred because of limited melting of the asteroid, and
 thus illustrate that the formation of andesite crust has
 occurred in our solar system by processes other than plate
 tectonics, which is the generally accepted process that
 created the crust of Earth.
 
 
 
 
 
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[meteorite-list] AD-Wire saw is operational-Kerfindustries.com

2010-01-14 Thread Matt Morgan
Hi all:
I just wanted to announce a new venture that Gary Curtiss and I started. Kerf 
Industries is open for business to handle your slicing and dicing needs of rare 
materials. We have a 12 Diamond Wire Technology wire saw that is capable of 
producing very thin slices at minimal loss (about 4 percent, depending on slice 
thickness and material type).  We have cut material for several dealers thus 
far and are looking for more customers.

If you would like more information, please visit http:://www.kerfindustries.com 
for more information.

Thanks,
Matt Morgan
--
Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
P.O. Box 151293
Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
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[meteorite-list] 2010 AL30 is natural, NOT man-made

2010-01-14 Thread Richard Kowalski
No with multiple observations, including initial reports, public and private, 
from the radar observers, there is no doubt at all that 2010 AL30 is natural.

The last time it passed near the Earth was in 1929.

For a detailed explanation, see:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/mpml/message/22817

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http://fullmoonphotography.net
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[meteorite-list] Wanted - Ash Creek or Buzzard Coulee specks/crumbs

2010-01-14 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi List,

If anyone has tiny specks or crumbs of Ash Creek or Buzzard Coulee, I
would be interested in buying them as micromounts.   Contact me
off-list if you have some available.

Best regards,

MikeG
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[meteorite-list] meteor now to include meteorites?

2010-01-14 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - 

I don't think so. Period.

That's not what Richard Norton taught in Rocks from Space. 

Will someone here please set the IAU straight on this?

How about operationally, if it hits frei-punkt, its a meteorite, if it leaves a 
hole in the ground or airbursts with enough force to make it to the ground, its 
an impacting asteroid or comet fragment.

E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas


  
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[meteorite-list] I just can't help myself

2010-01-14 Thread Jerry Flaherty

Anger is a medieval German word which means place, covered by grass or,
more concrete:
I'm sorry Mathias, I just couldn't resist. CONTEXT  is a b when it isn't 
there. 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger + Gero Kurat (1938-2009)

2010-01-14 Thread Jerry Flaherty
Oh, please disregard my previous post. I began reading emails from the most 
recent.
I too am deeply saddened by this news. Christian's contributions to the List 
were always appreciated.


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From: Jörn Koblitz kobl...@microfab.de
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 7:20 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list]  Christian Anger + Gero Kurat (1938-2009)

I am deeply saddened to learn about the death of Christian, a fellow 
collector and friend for so many many years.


Sadly, this is not the only terrible news from Austria, recently:

Prof. Gero Kurat, the former curator of the meteorite collection at the 
Natural History Museum in Vienna, Austria, and past president of the 
Meteoritical Society died on November 27, 2009, at the age of only 71.


http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/news_display.cfm?code=news_introitemID=51CFID=3978395CFTOKEN=27350152

http://solarsystem.wustl.edu/2009/12/01/gerot-kurat/

Both great individuals will truly be missed! My sincere condolences to his 
families and friends.


Joern Koblitz



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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Januar 2010 23:57
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Cc: h63str...@aol.com
Betreff: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger




Hello everybody,

I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news.
For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an
expert meteorite
collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an
Engineer, and
lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and
two little
girls.
And I still remember when we were waltzing together in
Ensisheim, in much
happier times.

Anne M. Black
_http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/)
_impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com)
Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
_http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/)

Hello Anne,

today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend
Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident
and he died.

I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a
collector but a
friend.
Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter.
We had also other private contact and were real friends.

At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show,
because he had
so many private problems in his mind.
Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that
he decided to
come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and
stayed in
Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of
my material back
into the car sunday afternoon.
This was the last time I saw him.

True friendship never ends..

Hanno Strufe

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Re: [meteorite-list] AD-Wire saw is operational-Kerfindustries.com

2010-01-14 Thread Michael Blood
Hi All,
Gary and Matt cut some rare hammer material for me and
The loss was under 10% and the slices were PERFECT.
Also, they handled the material carefully after cutting so
none of the very thin slices were broken and they were speedy
in their work. Furthermore, they did not charge an arm and a leg.
Best wishes, Michael


On 1/14/10 9:43 AM, Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote:

 Hi all:
 I just wanted to announce a new venture that Gary Curtiss and I started. Kerf
 Industries is open for business to handle your slicing and dicing needs of
 rare materials. We have a 12 Diamond Wire Technology wire saw that is capable
 of producing very thin slices at minimal loss (about 4 percent, depending on
 slice thickness and material type).  We have cut material for several dealers
 thus far and are looking for more customers.
 
 If you would like more information, please visit
 http:://www.kerfindustries.com for more information.
 
 Thanks,
 Matt Morgan
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 Mile High Meteorites
 http://www.mhmeteorites.com
 P.O. Box 151293
 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD-Wire saw is operational-Kerfindustries.com

2010-01-14 Thread Gary Fujihara
Aloha Listoids,

I'd like to concur with Michael about the quality of services that Matt and 
Gary (under Kerf Industries) have provided the Big Kahuna.  You can see some of 
their work on my material currently on ebay now, including the Park Forest 
slices.  You will also see their work on some jaw-dropping new meteorites that 
I will be premiering in the next few weeks.  Cutting loss was 5% and they were 
wikiwiki with their delivery.  On top of that, their prices are very 
reasonable, and one of the reasons how I can offer prepared material at such 
affordable prices to collectors.

Kerf Industries is da bomb. You should try 'em out if you need cutting and 
preparation services.  Just don't slam 'em when I need my stones cut  ;^)

gary

On Jan 14, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Michael Blood wrote:

 Hi All,
Gary and Matt cut some rare hammer material for me and
 The loss was under 10% and the slices were PERFECT.
Also, they handled the material carefully after cutting so
 none of the very thin slices were broken and they were speedy
 in their work. Furthermore, they did not charge an arm and a leg.
Best wishes, Michael
 
 
 On 1/14/10 9:43 AM, Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote:
 
 Hi all:
 I just wanted to announce a new venture that Gary Curtiss and I started. Kerf
 Industries is open for business to handle your slicing and dicing needs of
 rare materials. We have a 12 Diamond Wire Technology wire saw that is 
 capable
 of producing very thin slices at minimal loss (about 4 percent, depending on
 slice thickness and material type).  We have cut material for several dealers
 thus far and are looking for more customers.
 
 If you would like more information, please visit
 http:://www.kerfindustries.com for more information.
 
 Thanks,
 Matt Morgan
 --
 Matt Morgan
 Mile High Meteorites
 http://www.mhmeteorites.com
 P.O. Box 151293
 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
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105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720
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[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - January 13, 2010

2010-01-14 Thread Ron Baalke


MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES
January 13, 2010

o Phoenix Lander in Springtime
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/phoenix-spring.php

o Very Recent Impact Crater
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_015962_1695

o Frost-Covered Dunes in Crater
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_016087_2595

o Dune Symmetry 
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_016036_1370

o Contortions on the Floor of Hellas Basin
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_016022_1420


All of the HiRISE images are archived here:

http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/

Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is 
online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is 
managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division 
of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA 
Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed 
Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor 
and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the 
University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies 
Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument.

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[meteorite-list] Spirit Rover Update: Just a Few More Approaches to Try for Extrication

2010-01-14 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2010-012  

Just a Few More Approaches to Try for Extrication
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
January 13, 2010

The list of remaining maneuvers being considered for extricating Spirit
is becoming shorter. Results are being analyzed Wednesday, Jan. 13, from
a drive on Sol 2143 (Jan. 12, 2010) using intentionally very slow
rotation of the wheels. Earlier drives in the past two weeks using wheel
wiggles and slow wheel rotation produced only negligible progress toward
extricating Spirit.

The right-front wheel has not rotated usefully since Sol 2117 (Dec. 16,
2009). With the right-rear wheel also inoperable since Sol 2099 (Nov.
28, 2009), Spirit now drives with only four wheels.

Pending results of the latest drive, the rover team is developing plans
for their final few attempts, such as driving backwards and using
Spirit's robotic arm to sculpt the ground directly in front of the
left-front wheel, the only working wheel the arm can reach. Such
activities may take several sols to implement, but time is getting short
as winter approaches and the team needs to focus on Spirit's winter
survival.

The amount of energy that Spirit has each day is declining as autumn
days shorten on southern Mars. If NASA does determine that the rover
will not be able to get away from its current location, some maneuvers
to improve the tilt toward the winter sun might be attempted.

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[meteorite-list] Infrared Hunt Begins: WISE Starts All-Sky Survey

2010-01-14 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/features.cfm?feature=2447  

Infrared Hunt Begins: WISE Starts All-Sky Survey
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
January 14, 2010

NASA's Wide Field Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE) began its survey of
the infrared sky today. The mission will spend nine months scanning the
sky one-and-a-half times in infrared light, revealing all sorts of
cosmic characters -- everything from near-Earth asteroids to young
galaxies more than ten billion light-years away.

WISE, which launched Dec. 14, 2009, from Vandenberg Air Force Base in
California, will uncover hundreds of thousands of asteroids, and
hundreds of millions of stars and galaxies. Its vast catalog of data
will provide astronomers and other missions with data for mine for
decades to come.

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the Wide-field Infrared Survey
Explorer for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington. The
principal investigator, Edward Wright, is at UCLA. The mission was
competitively selected under NASA's Explorers Program managed by the
Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. The science instrument was
built by the Space Dynamics Laboratory, Logan, Utah, and the spacecraft
was built by Ball Aerospace  Technologies Corp., Boulder, Colo. Science
operations and data processing take place at the Infrared Processing and
Analysis Center at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena.
Caltech manages JPL for NASA. More information is online at
http://www.nasa.gov/wise, http://wise.astro.ucla.edu and
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/wise .

2010-013


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Re: [meteorite-list] Haiti Relief Auction?

2010-01-14 Thread John higgins
Hi Mike, 
Your 100% right
Please bid on this Meteorite 100% goes to the American Red Cross Charity, and 
hurry because there are only 2 days left!

http://cgi.ebay.com/CONTROVERSIAL-LAS-PALMAS-METEORITE-377g-SCULPTED-WOW_W0QQitemZ380196637353QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item58857c4aa9

Thank you,
John Higgins
IMCA #9822



- Original Message 
From: Galactic Stone  Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 7:11:06 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Haiti Relief Auction?

Hi List,

The extent of the devastation in Haiti is great and it makes whatever
problems most of us have pale by comparison.  If anyone is planning
some kind of relief auction or sale, I would gladly donate a few
specimens with the proceeds to go to the disaster relief.  I don't
have any high dollar pieces to donate (mostly small stuff like
micros), but anything would probably help.  I have my hands and plate
full with my wife's medical problems at the moment, so I don't have
the time to organize or host such an auction/sale, but I'll definitely
donate something.

Best regards and happy hunting,

MikeG
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[meteorite-list] Strewnfield or Strewn Field?

2010-01-14 Thread Meteorites USA

Hi Listees,

Thanks to you all who've written in with kind words and comments on my 
new article a few days back titled What is a Meteorite Strewnfield? I 
really appreciate your compliments. I hope you all enjoyed it. If you 
haven't read it yet please do so. It's a good informative read, and even 
has some pretty pictures too. ;)


The reason for this email is to ask about proper use of the word(s) 
strewnfield. While researching the article I noticed that the numerous 
websites on the internet had 2 ways of spelling the it. Should it be 
Strewnfield one word... or Strewn Field two seperate words?


Every time I type in strewnfield in a search it comes up with Did you 
mean? strewn field with a space. I've seen it described as Strewn 
field on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strewn_field Then in 
the paragraph just below it reads strewnfield all one word again. To 
make matters more confusing Encyclopedia Britannica has the word with a 
hyphen i.e; strewn-field. 
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/569002/strewn-field Google 
shows 67,500 results for the phrase strewn field and the same amount 
for strewn-field with a hyphen, meaning they don't recognize the 
hyphen. Google also shows 23,700 results for the single word 
strewnfield. Not to mention the many articles and papers all over the 
internet with ALL 3 ways of usage of the word.


So which is it? or does it really matter?

Regards,
Eric Wichman
Meteorites USA
www.meteoritesusa.com







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Re: [meteorite-list] Strewnfield or Strewn Field?

2010-01-14 Thread Chris Peterson
This is English you're talking about. What is correct is determined by 
usage. Strewn field is undoubtedly acceptable, and is the traditional way 
of writing it. However, there is a growing trend in recent English usage to 
construct hybrid or portmanteau words- especially in technical areas (thus, 
webpage is now probably more common than web page). So it isn't 
surprising to see strewnfield used more often these days. Hyphenated words 
seem to be falling out of favor somewhat.


IMO, any form is fine, but you should exercise consistency. It would be 
distracting to see it used different ways in the same discussion.


Chris

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Cloudbait Observatory
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- Original Message - 
From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com

To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 8:39 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Strewnfield or Strewn Field?



Hi Listees,

Thanks to you all who've written in with kind words and comments on my new 
article a few days back titled What is a Meteorite Strewnfield? I really 
appreciate your compliments. I hope you all enjoyed it. If you haven't 
read it yet please do so. It's a good informative read, and even has some 
pretty pictures too. ;)


The reason for this email is to ask about proper use of the word(s) 
strewnfield. While researching the article I noticed that the numerous 
websites on the internet had 2 ways of spelling the it. Should it be 
Strewnfield one word... or Strewn Field two seperate words?


Every time I type in strewnfield in a search it comes up with Did you 
mean? strewn field with a space. I've seen it described as Strewn 
field on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strewn_field Then in the 
paragraph just below it reads strewnfield all one word again. To make 
matters more confusing Encyclopedia Britannica has the word with a hyphen 
i.e; strewn-field. 
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/569002/strewn-field Google shows 
67,500 results for the phrase strewn field and the same amount for 
strewn-field with a hyphen, meaning they don't recognize the hyphen. 
Google also shows 23,700 results for the single word strewnfield. Not to 
mention the many articles and papers all over the internet with ALL 3 ways 
of usage of the word.


So which is it? or does it really matter?


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Re: [meteorite-list] Strewnfield or Strewn Field?

2010-01-14 Thread lebofsky
Hi Eric:

For about a year, this was a topic for the editors of Meteorite magazine.
We decided to be consistent with strewnfield since we had the column From
the Strewnfields by Martin Horejsi at the time (miss your articles in the
magazine, Martin).

Larry

 Hi Listees,

 Thanks to you all who've written in with kind words and comments on my
 new article a few days back titled What is a Meteorite Strewnfield? I
 really appreciate your compliments. I hope you all enjoyed it. If you
 haven't read it yet please do so. It's a good informative read, and even
 has some pretty pictures too. ;)

 The reason for this email is to ask about proper use of the word(s)
 strewnfield. While researching the article I noticed that the numerous
 websites on the internet had 2 ways of spelling the it. Should it be
 Strewnfield one word... or Strewn Field two seperate words?

 Every time I type in strewnfield in a search it comes up with Did you
 mean? strewn field with a space. I've seen it described as Strewn
 field on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strewn_field Then in
 the paragraph just below it reads strewnfield all one word again. To
 make matters more confusing Encyclopedia Britannica has the word with a
 hyphen i.e; strewn-field.
 http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/569002/strewn-field Google
 shows 67,500 results for the phrase strewn field and the same amount
 for strewn-field with a hyphen, meaning they don't recognize the
 hyphen. Google also shows 23,700 results for the single word
 strewnfield. Not to mention the many articles and papers all over the
 internet with ALL 3 ways of usage of the word.

 So which is it? or does it really matter?

 Regards,
 Eric Wichman
 Meteorites USA
 www.meteoritesusa.com







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[meteorite-list] Lunar and Planatary Laboratory Holds Arizona Meteorite Exhibition

2010-01-14 Thread Richard Kowalski
The largest single gathering of meteorites found in Arizona will be on display 
on Jan. 30 during the Arizona Meteorite Exhibition.


http://uanews.org/node/29528

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Re: [meteorite-list] Strewnfield or Strewn Field?

2010-01-14 Thread Zelimir Gabelica
Yes Chris, I fully agree with you regarding the 
falling out of hyphenated words.


Another such example is portmanteau you are using here in your post.
This word derives from the French porte-manteau 
(laterally coat (and hat) rack) that is now 
currently written (yes, even in French) portemanteau.

But English still went a step forward by omitting the e.
And now in dictionary (e.g. Harrap's Shorter) or 
on i-Google, you can find that English 
portmanteau translates into French 
portemanteau, word that has now 2 different 
meanings in English (coat rack and hybrid word).


Another such example that puzzled me at the time 
was South-East, written as such on official 
maps showing South-East Alaska areas.
However, when in the area, i noted everywhere 
(streets, posts stuck on walls...) Southeast.


Usage to which I am quite favorable.

BTW: in the Harraps, strewnfield does not exist.
But now, here in France, since meteorites became 
popular, the English word strewnfield (never 
strewn field) is more and more used asa (bastard) French word!
(the correct French name is still ellipse de 
chute, literally fall ellipse).


Allmybest,

Zelimir


At 04:48 15/01/2010, Chris Peterson wrote:
This is English you're talking about. What is 
correct is determined by usage. Strewn field 
is undoubtedly acceptable, and is the 
traditional way of writing it. However, there is 
a growing trend in recent English usage to 
construct hybrid or portmanteau words- 
especially in technical areas (thus, webpage 
is now probably more common than web page). So 
it isn't surprising to see strewnfield used 
more often these days. Hyphenated words seem to 
be falling out of favor somewhat.


IMO, any form is fine, but you should exercise 
consistency. It would be distracting to see it 
used different ways in the same discussion.


Chris

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Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com


- Original Message - From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com
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Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 8:39 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Strewnfield or Strewn Field?



Hi Listees,

Thanks to you all who've written in with kind 
words and comments on my new article a few days 
back titled What is a Meteorite Strewnfield? 
I really appreciate your compliments. I hope 
you all enjoyed it. If you haven't read it yet 
please do so. It's a good informative read, and 
even has some pretty pictures too. ;)


The reason for this email is to ask about 
proper use of the word(s) strewnfield. While 
researching the article I noticed that the 
numerous websites on the internet had 2 ways of 
spelling the it. Should it be Strewnfield one 
word... or Strewn Field two seperate words?


Every time I type in strewnfield in a search it 
comes up with Did you mean? strewn field 
with a space. I've seen it described as Strewn 
field on Wikipedia. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strewn_field Then 
in the paragraph just below it reads 
strewnfield all one word again. To make 
matters more confusing Encyclopedia Britannica 
has the word with a hyphen i.e; strewn-field. 
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/569002/strewn-field 
Google shows 67,500 results for the phrase 
strewn field and the same amount for 
strewn-field with a hyphen, meaning they don't 
recognize the hyphen. Google also shows 23,700 
results for the single word strewnfield. Not 
to mention the many articles and papers all 
over the internet with ALL 3 ways of usage of the word.


So which is it? or does it really matter?


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