Re: [meteorite-list] Absentee Bids

2010-01-30 Thread Michael Blood
Yo,

List members who cannot make it to the Tucson
Show - Absentee bids are pouring in,
Odd, since I was going to leave yesterday.
Anyway, I will not bore you with the whys, but I
Have not left yet. So:

ABSENTEE BIDS - in by noon, tomorrow (Sunday)
Please.
Thanks, Michael
PS: The "To Print" edition of the Auction catalog will be
Completed some time tonight. (though those who weren't
Worried about paper could always have printed once the
Link had been set up)

Best wishes, Michael


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Re: [meteorite-list] High Jacked

2010-01-30 Thread Impactika
In a message dated 1/30/2010 9:29:56 PM Mountain Standard Time,  
photoph...@yahoo.com writes:
Hello Listers & Listees

I have  noticed that the price for Rocks from Space: Meteorites and 
Meteorite Hunters  book has increased by a 1000% in the past couple weeks. I 
remeber seeing it  priced at $27 new and now its priced at $233 on Amazon.com 
new. 
I guess it's  time for me to get a copy before it's at  $1,000.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0878423737/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&con
dition=new

Shawn  Alan

Hello List members,
 
I have right here in room 230, InnSuites, in Tucson, these:
2 copies of Rocks from Space 
6 copies of Field Guide to Meteors  and Meteorites.
 
Those are the very last spare copies Dorothy Norton had around the house.  
As far as we both know these are the very last copies available, then both 
books  will be officially Out-of-Print.
 
Those books are $50 each. (Mailing from Denver after the show, I cannot  
leave the room during business hours)
If you are interested pease do let me know very quickly.
Thank you.

Anne M. Black
WWW.IMPACTIKA.com
email:  impact...@aol.com
Vice-President www.IMCA.cc 
 
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[meteorite-list] Tucson Photos, Az Meteorite Exhibition

2010-01-30 Thread Arizona Keith

Hello List

http://www.flickr.com/photos/46923...@n06/sets/72157623154261599/


Just loaded a large bunch of photos taken today at the Arizona Meteorite 
Exhibition, by the University of Arizona's Lunar & Planetary Laboratory.

It was a blast, big turn out, no time to do descriptions, sorry.
I'll be adding more.

Enjoy

Keith V
Chandler AZ

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Re: [meteorite-list] "Meteor Storm" on Syfy

2010-01-30 Thread Walter Branch
They had a movie called Asteroid on earlier today.  That one is a real 
keeper as well.  I love it when rocks just explode into huge fireballs on 
impact with the ground :-)


-Walter Branch

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: "Elizabeth Warner" 
Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:43 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "Meteor Storm" on Syfy



Thanks for the link. It is on in 20 minutes (10:00 here in Tucson). It
looks like a "gem," something that I can use in my class as an example of
what is wrong with this scene?

Larry


So, anyone else watching this masterpiece on Syfy?

http://www.apocalypticmovies.com/tag/meteor-storm/
http://www.sfuniverse.com/2010/01/29/michael-trucco-talks-battlestar-big-bang-and-one-huge-meteor-storm/

Clear Skies!
Elizabeth
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Re: [meteorite-list] "Meteor Storm" on Syfy

2010-01-30 Thread lebofsky
Thanks for the link. It is on in 20 minutes (10:00 here in Tucson). It
looks like a "gem," something that I can use in my class as an example of
what is wrong with this scene?

Larry

> So, anyone else watching this masterpiece on Syfy?
>
> http://www.apocalypticmovies.com/tag/meteor-storm/
> http://www.sfuniverse.com/2010/01/29/michael-trucco-talks-battlestar-big-bang-and-one-huge-meteor-storm/
>
> Clear Skies!
> Elizabeth
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[meteorite-list] High Jacked

2010-01-30 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello Listers & Listees
 
I have noticed that the price for Rocks from Space: Meteorites and Meteorite 
Hunters book has increased by a 1000% in the past couple weeks. I remeber 
seeing it priced at $27 new and now its priced at $233 on Amazon.com new. I 
guess it's time for me to get a copy before it's at $1,000.
 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0878423737/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new
 
Shawn Alan
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[meteorite-list] "Meteor Storm" on Syfy

2010-01-30 Thread Elizabeth Warner

So, anyone else watching this masterpiece on Syfy?

http://www.apocalypticmovies.com/tag/meteor-storm/
http://www.sfuniverse.com/2010/01/29/michael-trucco-talks-battlestar-big-bang-and-one-huge-meteor-storm/

Clear Skies!
Elizabeth
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Re: [meteorite-list] More on the Lorton... or Lorton hears a Who ?

2010-01-30 Thread GeoZay
In a message dated 1/30/2010 8:57:20 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
cdtuc...@cox.net writes:
>>I would like to know  how state and city Gov's fit in? I seem to remember 
from this list that AZ.  treats finds as okay as long as you have some sort 
of hunting or collecting  permit? I think they said they allow collection 
of all but burial objects and  arrow heads? Carl<<

I don't know about anybody else, but anything I  find that has fallen out 
of the sky, I'm pretty sure it landed in my yard,  regardless of its 
longitude and latitude. :O)
GeoZay  

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[meteorite-list] Manned mission to Phobos

2010-01-30 Thread Darren Garrison
Under some future president, possibly...

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20527451.100-destination-phobos-humanitys-next-giant-leap.html?full=true

The print version of the article:

http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/tmp/
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[meteorite-list] Off topic, but thanks

2010-01-30 Thread Walter Branch

Greetings to everyone on the meteorite list:

It was three years ago this past week, when I was involved in a terrible 
automobile accident that nearly took my life, and the life of my daughter, 
now 10.


I don't know why, but a few minutes ago I did a Google search on my name.  I 
found my website for the psychology practice at which at work (I am the 
amateurish webmaster).  Evidently, there is a Walter Branch library in 
Houston, Texas.  That's cool, I like libraries.


A few odds and ends.

Then a found an email my wife had sent to the list soon after the accident 
and the subsequent well wishing emails from many list members.  Re-reading 
those emails literally brought tears to my eyes.  Many list members sent 
cards to me, letters and emails to my wife and even financial contributions 
and meteorites.  Eric Olson even visited me in the hospital. Thanks Eric.


I spent months in the hospital recovering from the initial injuries and 
complications.  More surgeries (ten total) followed my discharge but I saw 
my surgeon for the last time on Thursday of this week and well, that's it. 
My three year medical ordeal will end with a Band-aid over a small abdominal 
wound.


I know I have said this before, but I just wanted everyone to know that 
those cards, letters, contributions  and support meant a lot to me.  They 
still do.  I still have the signed poster, all the cards, letters, emails 
etc. which you good people sent to me and my family.  I cherish the framed 
card which begins, "Get Well Soon, Walter, From Your Meteorite Friends..."


Some "Meteorite Friends" have gone on to other pursuits, some have lost 
loved ones and some we have lost.  Some have found fame and fortune and some 
live in obscurity.


I know at times I have been grumpy on this list and perhaps sent some emails 
I later regretted sending but I really do enjoy being a member and I 
apologize to those I have offended.


Anyway, for those of you who made it made it through this rambling way off 
topic email...


Thanks again.

I hope a rock from space lands in your back yard, if not through your roof!

-Walter Branch
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Auction PRINT Page

2010-01-30 Thread Michael Blood
Yo,
I, as well, am running LATE.  However, the PRINT page
Of the auction catalog I will have it finished on site before
I leave. 

http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/TucsonAuction10.html

It will have a link. I will be done today or tomorrow at the
VERY latest, as I have to have a copy to print.
You can just go to the "PRINT" copy and hit  "print"
On your computer when it is done.
Best wishes, Michael


On 1/30/10 9:26 AM, "Paul & Janice Harris"  wrote:

> Dear List,
> 
> I should learn to never say "Final" :-)
> 
> So... Here is the mostest currentest, latest update.
> 
> Tucson Show Information
> http://www.meteorite-times.com/tucson/
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[meteorite-list] Tucson Information Page - Second Final Update :-)

2010-01-30 Thread Paul Harris

Dear List,

I should learn to never say "Final" :-)

So... Here is the mostest currentest, latest update.

Tucson Show Information
http://www.meteorite-times.com/tucson/

Thanks!

Paul




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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 30, 2010

2010-01-30 Thread Mark Bowling
> True dat, except Dima oughtn't have a finger on the trigger.
> Paul Swartz

We just don't see that he has a punk on the floor!
They have to keep the bandits away somehow...  o(;?-D
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Re: [meteorite-list] More on the Lorton... or Lorton hears a Who ?

2010-01-30 Thread cdtucson
Paul wrote;
"I have always wondered about the case of a meteorite hitting a 
house or landed on a property, for which the "owner" was still 
paying off his or her mortgage."
I am pretty sure that the mortgage holder does not legally own anything 
outright except a piece of paper. Unless they go through foreclosure 
procedures. I think this has been illustrated recently by cases being thrown 
out of court where bankers complained of owners selling off parts of the 
property prior to the final foreclosure date, In these cases home owners got to 
keep the proceeds of sales of things that normally would have stayed with the 
home. Things such as kitchen cabinets, sinks, etc. The court ruled that lenders 
are just lenders. 
I would like to know how state and city Gov's fit in? I seem to remember from 
this list that AZ. treats finds as okay as long as you have some sort of 
hunting or collecting permit? I think they said they allow collection of all 
but burial objects and arrow heads? Carl

--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax


 Paul Heinrich  wrote: 
> In 
> http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2010-January/060468.html ,
> Richard Kowalski wrote:
> 
> "I find the comments amusing. It's pretty obvious
> that the rock belongs to the land owner, not the
> doctors. I just wonder if it dawned on them
> themselves or if someone contracted them about
> this. I'm not even suggesting one of the dealers
> mentioned in the article contacted the owner
> about this, but I wouldn't be surprised if some
> hunter contacted them to advise them of their
> rights..."
> 
> When the fall was first reported, it struck me as being strange that
> the doctors should to be claiming to be the owners when they
> likely were only renting it.
> 
> In a similar vein, I noted that a person or two, who sold Park Forest
> meteorites to collectors said that they found their Park Forest
> meteorites in the street. In such a case, the real owners of those
> meteorites would be the city of Park Forest. Noboby seemed to
> question their ownership of their meteorites at that time.
> 
> In 
> http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2010-January/060498.html ,
> Greg Stanley about the "Hodges Meteorite Strike (Sylacauga
> Aerolite)" wrote:
> 
> "On December 1, 1954, the day after Ann Hodges
> was struck, he discovered a second fragment of the
> meteorite in the middle of a dirt road. McKinney
> was able to sell his rock to the Smithsonian for
> enough to purchase a small farm and a used car."
> 
> Although at that time, people failed to pay any attention to him
> having found it in a dirt road. If this dirt road was a county road,
> it seems like it really belonged to the county government. If it
> was a private dirt raod, it would belong the landowner, whose
> raod the land was on. It seemed like in this case, McKinney got
> away with "finders keepers".
> 
> I have always wondered about the case of a meteorite hitting a
> house or landed on a property, for which the "owner" was still
> paying off his or her mortgage. In such a case, would the mortgage
> company have partial claim to the ownership of the meteorite and
> debris from the impact? Would it have a say in how the meteorite
> was either sold or donated and a share of the profit from any
> sale of it?
> 
> Yours,
> 
> Paul H.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 30, 2010

2010-01-30 Thread valparint
>Top stuff!
>Dave
>www.fallingrocks.com 

True dat, except Dima oughtn't have a finger on the trigger.


Paul Swartz
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[meteorite-list] Barf And Pee Bags: State Treasures In Space

2010-01-30 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum

Only in California:


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/30/science/space/30moon.html?hp


To California, Moon Junk Is State Treasure

By JESSE McKINLEY
Published: January 29, 2010


SAN FRANCISCO - In one small step for preservation and one giant leap of 
logic, the official historical commission of California voted Friday to 
protect two small urine collection devices, four space-sickness bags and 
dozens of other pieces of detritus, all currently residing nearly a quarter 
of a million miles from the state.


This is not a joke. I repeat, Houston, not a joke.

Saying it wanted to raise awareness of both the state's cosmic contribution 
to the Apollo 11 moon mission and the potential threats from lunar 
interlopers, the California State Historical Resources Commission voted 
unanimously to designate more than 100 pieces of space trash, scientific 
apparatus and commemorative tokens to its list of protected resources.


Milford Wayne Donaldson, the state historic preservation officer, said the 
reasoning behind the first-of-its-kind designation was simple: Scores of 
California companies worked on the Apollo mission, and much of their 
handiwork remains of major historical value to the state, regardless of 
where it is now or what it was for used for then.


"It has a significance that goes way further than whether it came from a 
quarter million miles away or not," Mr. Donaldson said. "They are all parts 
of the event."


While Apollo 11 was indeed a landmark mission - during which Neil A. 
Armstrong became the first man to walk on the moon and he and Buzz Aldrin 
apparently ditched their boots - it wasn't exactly tidy. Worried about the 
weight of their landing capsule, the harried lunar explorers left behind 
tons of trash, including empty food bags, electrical equipment and, yes, 
several receptacles meant for bodily waste.


There is also a collection of artifacts of historical note and emotion: Mr. 
Armstrong's footprint, for example, and an American flag. Apollo 11 also 
left behind a mission patch from Apollo 1, in which three astronauts died in 
a fire, and a message from world leaders.


And while some of the garbage might seem like, well, garbage, California is 
just one of several states seeking protection for the items in the face of 
possible lunar missions by other nations as well as a budding space tourism 
industry.


In New Mexico, home to early Apollo test sites like the White Sands Missile 
Range, a similar measure is expected to be considered by the state's 
cultural properties review committee in April.


Beth O'Leary, an assistant professor of anthropology at New Mexico State 
University and an expert in "lunar archeology," said she had screamed with 
delight when she heard the news from California. But she admitted that 
persuading people to safeguard Apollo's space junk was often a challenge, if 
only because it is on - you know - the moon.


"I don't think anyone argues with it being a major event in the history for 
humanity, right up there with the invention of fire," Ms. O'Leary said. "But 
people don't tend to think of it as something we need to be protecting."


So for the last decade, she and other historians and archeologists have been 
pushing for protection through their Lunar Legacy Project, which has an 
inventory of items left behind at Tranquility Base where the astronauts 
landed in July 1969, including a plaque spelling out exactly who made the 
mess.


"Here men from the planet Earth first set foot upon the Moon," it reads. "We 
came in peace for all mankind."


Mr. Donaldson said he hoped his commission's vote might help goad the United 
Nations Educational Scientific and Cultural Organization into placing the 
landing site on the World Heritage List, an international compilation of 
famed landmarks.


"I think there's a threat from private companies," Mr. Donaldson said. "And 
with today's technology, they could probably pinpoint this."


That said, Mr. Donaldson admitted that there were no "space cops" available 
to safeguard the state's newest historical resource. But, like the Apollo 
astronauts themselves, he seemed optimistic that Friday's vote might lead to 
bigger and better things.


"Hopefully," he said, "this will take off."



Phil Whitmer

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[meteorite-list] Tucson Show Photos

2010-01-30 Thread Michael Johnson
Tucson Show photos from Bob Evans:
http://s949.photobucket.com/albums/ad336/bobe5531/


Regards,
Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org

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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 30, 2010

2010-01-30 Thread Dave Gheesling
Top stuff!
Dave
www.fallingrocks.com 

-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Johnson
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 8:49 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January
30,2010

http://www.rocksfromspace.org/January_30_2010.html

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[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 30, 2010

2010-01-30 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/January_30_2010.html

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Re: [meteorite-list] Distribution of Canyon Diablo meteorites at Meteor (Barringer) Crater ???

2010-01-30 Thread Piper R.W. Hollier

Hello Paul, Ron, and list,

For those who do not have easy access to Nininger's book Arizona's 
Meteor Crater, the Holsinger map (November 1908) of meteorite 
fragment distribution at Meteor Crater is available online at this link:


http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v434/n7030/extref/434157a-s3.jpg

Also of likely interest is David Kring's much more recent study of 
the distribution of the ejecta blanket at the crater site, chapter 7 
of his Guidebook to the Geology of Barringer Meteor Crater, Arizona:


http://www.lpi.usra.edu/publications/books/barringer_crater_guidebook/

Best wishes to all,

Piper

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Re: [meteorite-list] Distribution of Canyon Diablo meteorites at Meteor (Barringer) Crater ???

2010-01-30 Thread R N Hartman

Hello Paul,

See Arizona's Meteor Crater by H H Nininger, American Meteorite Laboratory, 
Denver, Co. 1956; p. 26.  He shows in a map  S. J. Holsinger had made (1908) 
showing distribution of meteorite fragments that had been recovered.  See 
also: Smithsonian Institution Contr. to Astrophysics, v. 2 No. 7 pp. 
145-160:

http://www.sil.si.edu/smithsoniancontributions/Astrophysics/pdf_hi/SCAS-0009.pdf

Ron Hartman


- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Heinrich" 

To: "Meteorite List" 
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 9:37 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Distribution of Canyon Diablo meteorites at Meteor 
(Barringer) Crater ???




Dear Friends,

Has anyone compiled and published a map showing
how the various size fragments of Canyon Diablo
meteorites were distributed by the impact around
Meteor (Barringer) Crater in Arizona? If so, what
has been inferred about the impact processes by the
distribution of Canyon Diablo meteorites around it?

Yours,

Paul H.
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