Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March 31, 2010
Wow! Marcin, what a fantastic Camel Donga...one of the most extremely oriented pieces I've ever seenso frothy on the back it looks more like slag. Excellent photo. All the best, Graham, UK Michael Johnson wrote: > http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_31_2010.html > > > > > > --- > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees?
Hi Melanie and List, I don't know who the seller is, but the photos and descriptions leave much to be desired. If they can't put the time and effort into decent photos and a good description, then it makes me wonder about the legal paperwork too. LOL Best regards, MikeG On 3/31/10, Melanie Matthews wrote: > http://shop.ebay.ca/306krista/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340 > > Worldwide shipping and no mention of an export permit for any of them? > Anyone here know this person and if he/she is for real? > > --- > Melanie > IMCA: 2975 > eBay: metmel2775 > Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 > > Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what > you're gonna get! > > > > __ > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > http://www.flickr.com/gift/ > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FIreball in Florida Tuesday night
Hi Everyone: A friend of mine (Greg Beckner) in Gainsville, FL just sent me this. He was out with a group of scouts and saw the following (second paragraph): I took my Cub Scout pack to the model airplane field last night & showed them a few R/C aircraft. A sidebar to that is the field is several miles out of town and has a good view of the horizon and darker skies, so I also took the telescope. We saw Mercury about 5 deg from Venus last night & a few deep sky objects at the last part of Astronomical twilight & before moon came up. Around 9:30 local time, while packing up, I saw the most impressive fireball meteor almost directly to the south. It started like an Iridium flare, but just got brighter & brighter. It was close enough where you could see a flame structure and fragments breaking off. Will the next "Meteorite Men" episode be filmed here??? So far, nothing in paper yet. Is there something that keeps track of such events? I'm sure we weren't the only ones seeing it (*it scared the crap out of my kids!!!) Here's GPS cords of flying field - I was looking Almost Due South - maybe just a little to the East of due South. Time was perhaps between 9:20 & 9:40pm EDT. Path of the object was almost straight down & it was about 35 deg up... N 29° 31' 07" W 082° 33' 32" Larry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FIreball in Florida Tuesday night
>>Here's GPS cords of flying field - I was looking Almost Due South - maybe just a little to the East of due South. >> Maybe an Alpha Capricornid? right period, right time, right direction and usually bright and slow to catch peoples attention. GeoZay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: sales of a nice complete achondrite 8 gr
hi all this a very rare achondrite that is probably a lunar paired to nwa series of NWA 2995 NWA 2996 NWA 3190 NWA 4503 NWA 5151 NWA 5152 http://www.flickr.com/photos/azizhabibi/ if interested please email me thanks aziz habibi ps i have many other chondrite very nice looking and great shape so ask for photo habibi aziz box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco phone. 21235576145 fax.21235576170 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Slovakia meteorite found from 28FEB2010 Bolide
Dear List, Photos and information just off of the wire in Slovakia and Hungary. 64 pieces of meteorite have been found from the reported 28FEB2010 Hungary Fireball. They were found near Koice, Slovakia as projected by the Hungarian data. Great job to the people in Hungary, Czech, Slovakia and elsewhere that worked on this project! Dirk Ross...Tokyo http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2010/03/meteorite-found-in-hungary-hungary.html sorry the first posting was sent in rich text and did not make it to the list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] On Now! - Sodom & Gomorrah on Science Channel
In http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2010-March/062654.html Darren Garrison quoted GeoZay as stating: “I just watched this program. It's left me wondering where are all those meteorites from billions of tons of debris that supposedly fell on Sodom and Gomorrah? If that one nearby town was found, then surely nearby there should be a fanny load of meteorites laying about just waiting to be scooped up. David repsonded: “I haven't seen the show Isounds like National Enquirer quality stuff though) but not only does nobody know where Sodom and Gamorrah were, nobody knows for sure if they even actually existed, or if they did exist-- when. Here's an article from mid-2009 which (along with the comments at the end) show how little agreement there is on the subject: http://www.bib-arch.org/e-features/sodom-and-gomorrah.asp Will their next episode be postulating bioluminescent bacteria as the explanation of why Rudolph's nose glows so bright?” The episode of “Biblical Mysteries Explained” about Sodom and Gomorrah is largely based upon a popular, self-published book that recycles long discredited claims about the large Kofels Landslide near Tyrol, Austria, being of impact origin. The book is: Bond, A., and M. Hempsell, 2008, A Sumerian Observation of the Köfels' Impact Event, Writersprintshop, 2008, ISBN: 1904623646 They argue that the impact of an asteroid over a kilometer in diameter created the Kofels landslide about 5123 BP near Tyrol, Austria. They argue that the “back plume from the explosion” was hurled back along its entry path / “bent over the Mediterranean Sea” and re-entered the atmosphere some 1,600 miles away over the Levant, Sinai, and Northern Egypt and destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. There all sorts of problems with their thesis. 1. First, the age of the Kofels landslide is well established by numerous concordant radiocarbon and cosmogenic dates. as having occurred about 9800±100 years BP. This is some 4,600 – 4,700 older than claimed by Bond and Hemphill in their book. The radiocarbon dates came from AMS 14C dating of wood buried by the landslide. The age of the Kofels landslide is discussed in: Hermanns, R., L. Blikra, M. Naumann, B. Nilsen, K. Panthi, D. Stromeyer, O. Longva, 2006, Examples of multiple rock-slope collapses from Köfels (Ötz valley, Austria) and western Norway. Engineering Geology. vol. 83, no. 1-3, pp. 94-108. and Ivy-Ochs, S., H. Heuberger, P. W. Kubik, H. Kerschner, G. Bonani, M. Frank, and C. Schluchter, 1998, The age of the Köfels event. Relative, 14C and cosmogenic isotope dating of an early Holocene landslide in the central Alps (Tyrol, Austria). Zeitschrift fur Gletscherkunde und Glazialgeologie. vol. 34, pp. 57-70. All Bond and Hemphill can do is make unsupported claims that the radiocarbon are “contaminated” by some unknown process. Also, a person cannot even claim that seemingly imaginary impact-related “nuclear processes” can create apparent dates that are older than the actual age of the material. 2. Another problem is that the impact origin of the Kofels landslide has been previously discredited in discussions of its origin as the result of a terminal Pleistocene impact as advocated by Austrian geologist Alexander Tollmann as discussed in: Kristan-Tollmann, E. and A. Tollmann, 1994, The youngest big impact on Earth deduced from geological and historical evidence. Terra Nova. v. 6, no. 2, pp. 209-217. and Deutsch, A., C. Koeberl, J.D. Blum, B. M. French, B. P. Glass, R. Grieve, P. Horn, E. K. Jessberger, G. Kurat, W. U. Reimold, J. Smit, D. Stoffler, and S. R. Taylor, 1994, The impact-flood connection: Does it exist? Terra Nova. vol. 6, pp. 644-650. Also, look at “Tollmann's hypothetical bolide” at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tollmann%27s_hypothetical_bolide It appears that the starting point for the hypothesis that the Kofels Landslide was caused by a extraterrestrial impact was the discovery of natural glass within the deposits of the Kofels Landslide. After the discovery of natural glass, the extraterrestrial impact hypothesis was proposed because, at that time, natural glass was only known to be created by either volcanic or extraterrestrial impact processes. Given the absence of associated volcanic deposits, it was argued the natural glass must have been created by an extraterrestrial impact. However, is it now known that similar natural glasses called "frictionite", are associated with other mega landslides and laboratory experiments and computer simulations show that frictional heating during landslides are quite capable of producing the natural glass found associated with the Kofels Landslide. This is discussed in detail in: Erismann, T. H., and G. Abele, 2001, Dynamics of Rockslides and Rockfalls, Springer-Verlag, Berlin-Heidelberg-New York, 316 p. http://spot.colorado.edu/~jsedr/BookReviews/March2002/Dynamics.pdf Hermanns, R.., L. Blikra, M. Naumann, B. Nilsen, K. Panthi, D. Stromey
Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees?
Hi: He probably is legit. So if you don't mind having stones that have no export permits or properly documented provenance, go for it. Has anyone asked him about export permits? Or mentioned the potential $50,000 fine? Murray On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks wrote: > Hi Melanie and List, > > I don't know who the seller is, but the photos and descriptions leave > much to be desired. > > If they can't put the time and effort into decent photos and a good > description, then it makes me wonder about the legal paperwork too. > LOL > > Best regards, > > MikeG > > On 3/31/10, Melanie Matthews wrote: >> http://shop.ebay.ca/306krista/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340 >> >> Worldwide shipping and no mention of an export permit for any of them? >> Anyone here know this person and if he/she is for real? >> >> --- >> Melanie >> IMCA: 2975 >> eBay: metmel2775 >> Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 >> >> Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what >> you're gonna get! >> >> >> >> __ >> Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! >> >> http://www.flickr.com/gift/ >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > > -- > > Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites > http://www.galactic-stone.com > http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The swoosh and the holler
http://www.coloradoan.com/article/20100330/UPDATES01/100330018 Meteorite-like rock strikes near Rist Canyon home Roger Hebbert got more than a cake for his 75th birthday this morning; he awoke to find what he believes is a meteorite that struck just 10 feet from his rural Rist Canyon home. Hebbert's wife, Bonnie, said she heard a loud swooshing sound late Monday night and felt a gust of wind through the house, but she didn't think too much of it because the log-sided home the couple shares is heated by three different sources, including a woodstove. "I hollered to him and kidded him if he was burning up the house, but he didn't say anything and I went to bed," she said. Roger awoke around 5:30 this morning, though, and went outside to split wood and found what appears to be about a 10-pound piece of rock that fell to the ground so quickly that it created a funnel in the ground. Several smaller pieces of rock and small holes were found nearby. The rock struck just 10 feet from the couple's home. The couple has called Colorado State University to see if researchers are interested in looking at the rock, and they hope to find out more. If this is found to be a meteorite, Bonnie said this will be her second such experience. Nearly 60 years ago, her father returned with a large rock from their property near Livermore, which was a meteorite. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] eBay's Biggest Scammer Ever?
This guy gets my vote for eBay's biggest scammer ever. Make sure you click on See other items for this seller. You won't believe what he's trying to sell. You would think eBay would look into this. The descriptions are hilarious! Martian limestone with fossils: http://cgi.ebay.com/UNCO-Martian-Calc-Carbonate-Limestone_W0QQitemZ120549084639QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c11490ddf A nice Lunar Olivine-Pyroxene: http://cgi.ebay.com/UNCO-Lunar-Olivine-Pyroxene-Meteorite_W0QQitemZ120550918828QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c11650aac An outstanding Martian Lherzolitic Peridotite: http://cgi.ebay.com/UNCO-Martian-Lherzolitic-Peridotite_W0QQitemZ120547970793QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c11380ee9 Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Space Glass-The Inner Core Of A Meteorite On eBay
This one's pretty funny too: http://cgi.ebay.com/Space-Glass-The-Inner-Core-Of-A-Meteorite_W0QQitemZ250577491156QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a579514d4 Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] eBay's Biggest Scammer Ever?
Hey, Blaine! This guy is almost in your back yard. 25 miles away.. He'll probably take a local check and allow you to pick these up! LOL Dennis > From: joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:42:57 -0400 > Subject: [meteorite-list] eBay's Biggest Scammer Ever? > > This guy gets my vote for eBay's biggest scammer ever. Make sure you click > on See other items for this seller. You won't believe what he's trying to > sell. You would think eBay would look into this. The descriptions are > hilarious! > > > > > Martian limestone with fossils: > http://cgi.ebay.com/UNCO-Martian-Calc-Carbonate-Limestone_W0QQitemZ120549084639QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c11490ddf > > A nice Lunar Olivine-Pyroxene: > http://cgi.ebay.com/UNCO-Lunar-Olivine-Pyroxene-Meteorite_W0QQitemZ120550918828QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c11650aac > > An outstanding Martian Lherzolitic Peridotite: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/UNCO-Martian-Lherzolitic-Peridotite_W0QQitemZ120547970793QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c11380ee9 > > Phil Whitmer > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] This one's only 10 Grand
This one's pretty small for 10 grand: http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Meteorite-Little-Rock_W0QQitemZ170465781220QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item27b08d65e4 eBay meteorwrongs, a never ending source of entertainment! Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The Latest Nevada Find, Not
Dear List, The "four million dollar meteorite" showed up that I mentioned yesterday. The sad thing is that these people actually convince themselves that these are real meteorites and that they are worth millions. This guy thinks his is exactly like Sonny's find that he saw on TV, only bigger. He says that he did his research, went to the neighborhood and found it, figuring a professional must have missed it. He wrote to me that he sealed it in a coffee can and smelled it a couple of days later. He stated that he could detect the unmistakable smell of Murchinson that only carbon type meteorites give off. I believe this object is made out of tar and that is what he is smelling or he has been sniffing the sauce (drinking too much alcohol). Either way, this is another heartbreak in the making. Now, I have the unpleasant task of returning it to him with the bad news that he is not the latest millionaire and that the funds for his granddaughter's medical bills will have to come from somewhere else.. Here are some images for those who may be interested: Link one: http://themeteoritesite.com/NevadaMeteorite-a.jpg Link two: http://themeteoritesite.com/NevadaMeteorite-b.jpg Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Latest Nevada Find, Not
Oh dear. Looks like an old toilet plunger that's been melting in the hot desert sun! Good luck with your rejection letter. Linton - Original Message - From: "Adam Hupe" To: "Adam" Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:40 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] The Latest Nevada Find, Not Dear List, The "four million dollar meteorite" showed up that I mentioned yesterday. The sad thing is that these people actually convince themselves that these are real meteorites and that they are worth millions. This guy thinks his is exactly like Sonny's find that he saw on TV, only bigger. He says that he did his research, went to the neighborhood and found it, figuring a professional must have missed it. He wrote to me that he sealed it in a coffee can and smelled it a couple of days later. He stated that he could detect the unmistakable smell of Murchinson that only carbon type meteorites give off. I believe this object is made out of tar and that is what he is smelling or he has been sniffing the sauce (drinking too much alcohol). Either way, this is another heartbreak in the making. Now, I have the unpleasant task of returning it to him with the bad news that he is not the latest millionaire and that the funds for his granddaughter's medical bills will have to come from somewhere else.. Here are some images for those who may be interested: Link one: http://themeteoritesite.com/NevadaMeteorite-a.jpg Link two: http://themeteoritesite.com/NevadaMeteorite-b.jpg Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Latest Nevada Find, Not
Adam/List: I have found stuff like this - looks like melted tar that has hardened to appear like glass; sometimes they have clasts inside. It is weird stuff. Are the white crystals quartz? Yea -just send it back and tell him to go to a local University and get a second opinion. Thanks for sharing. Greg S. > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:40:16 -0700 > From: raremeteori...@yahoo.com > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] The Latest Nevada Find, Not > > Dear List, > > The "four million dollar meteorite" showed up that I mentioned yesterday. The > sad thing is that these people actually convince themselves that these are > real meteorites and that they are worth millions. This guy thinks his is > exactly like Sonny's find that he saw on TV, only bigger. He says that he did > his research, went to the neighborhood and found it, figuring a professional > must have missed it. He wrote to me that he sealed it in a coffee can and > smelled it a couple of days later. He stated that he could detect the > unmistakable smell of Murchinson that only carbon type meteorites give off. I > believe this object is made out of tar and that is what he is smelling or he > has been sniffing the sauce (drinking too much alcohol). Either way, this is > another heartbreak in the making. > > Now, I have the unpleasant task of returning it to him with the bad news that > he is not the latest millionaire and that the funds for his granddaughter's > medical bills will have to come from somewhere else.. > > Here are some images for those who may be interested: > > > Link one: > http://themeteoritesite.com/NevadaMeteorite-a.jpg > > Link two: > http://themeteoritesite.com/NevadaMeteorite-b.jpg > Best Regards, > > Adam > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees?
Well Jason, I certainly could be wrong. I just hate to see anybody here get burned. My eyes can't tell for sure that those are fresh, fusion-crusted stones, as opposed to little black earth rocks, due to the photo quality. They do look somewhat probable though, I'll admit. The larger problem to me, is the export permit. Was there any mention of that when you spoke? Linton - Original Message - From: "Jason Utas" To: "Meteorite-list" Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? Melanie, Linton, The photos depict what are clearly fresh stony meteorites, regardless of their quality (viz., the photos'). This seller is a local and has been selling Buzzard Coulee stones since shortly after the fall. I've spoken with them on a few occasions, and, while I haven't actually purchased any stones, they do seem to be on the level. Regards, Jason On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Linton Rohr wrote: Melanie, No, I do not know the seller. The poor quality photos are just a nuisance. The text indicates to me that the seller does not know meteorites. Sounds like he took a few notes from someone elses legitimate ad. No mention of export permits is a giant red flag, though. You could always ask him/her about that. I almost did. The price/gram is sure a lot lower though, eh? Almost too good to be true, isn't it... And you know what they say about that! Linton - Original Message - From: "Melanie Matthews" To: "Meteorite List" Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:59 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? http://shop.ebay.ca/306krista/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340 Worldwide shipping and no mention of an export permit for any of them? Anyone here know this person and if he/she is for real? --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! __ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Latest Nevada Find, Not
Adam, What kind of Tar is it?? Too funny. http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1320&dat=19930815&id=J-8RIBAJ&sjid=H-sDIBAJ&pg=4008,4347655 -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Adam Hupe wrote: > Dear List, > > The "four million dollar meteorite" showed up that I mentioned yesterday. The > sad thing is that these people actually convince themselves that these are > real meteorites and that they are worth millions. This guy thinks his is > exactly like Sonny's find that he saw on TV, only bigger. He says that he did > his research, went to the neighborhood and found it, figuring a professional > must have missed it. He wrote to me that he sealed it in a coffee can and > smelled it a couple of days later. He stated that he could detect the > unmistakable smell of Murchinson that only carbon type meteorites give off. > I believe this object is made out of tar and that is what he is smelling or > he has been sniffing the sauce (drinking too much alcohol). Either way, this > is another heartbreak in the making. > > Now, I have the unpleasant task of returning it to him with the bad news that > he is not the latest millionaire and that the funds for his granddaughter's > medical bills will have to come from somewhere else.. > > Here are some images for those who may be interested: > > > Link one: > http://themeteoritesite.com/NevadaMeteorite-a.jpg > > Link two: > http://themeteoritesite.com/NevadaMeteorite-b.jpg > Best Regards, > > Adam > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Latest Nevada Find, Not
When I was in West, TX a woman told me that someone had painted some rocks black and placed them on her lawn; I never got to see them as I had met her on the road when was I was returning to my car. I had to leave and she had to go to town. I really wanted to see them. Practical Jokes... aren't they just so fun to do when you're a kid. Greg S. > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:07:51 -0400 > From: cdtuc...@cox.net > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; raremeteori...@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Latest Nevada Find, Not > > Adam, > What kind of Tar is it?? Too funny. > http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1320&dat=19930815&id=J-8RIBAJ&sjid=H-sDIBAJ&pg=4008,4347655 > > -- > Carl or Debbie Esparza > Meteoritemax > > > Adam Hupe wrote: >> Dear List, >> >> The "four million dollar meteorite" showed up that I mentioned yesterday. >> The sad thing is that these people actually convince themselves that these >> are real meteorites and that they are worth millions. This guy thinks his is >> exactly like Sonny's find that he saw on TV, only bigger. He says that he >> did his research, went to the neighborhood and found it, figuring a >> professional must have missed it. He wrote to me that he sealed it in a >> coffee can and smelled it a couple of days later. He stated that he could >> detect the unmistakable smell of Murchinson that only carbon type meteorites >> give off. I believe this object is made out of tar and that is what he is >> smelling or he has been sniffing the sauce (drinking too much alcohol). >> Either way, this is another heartbreak in the making. >> >> Now, I have the unpleasant task of returning it to him with the bad news >> that he is not the latest millionaire and that the funds for his >> granddaughter's medical bills will have to come from somewhere else.. >> >> Here are some images for those who may be interested: >> >> >> Link one: >> http://themeteoritesite.com/NevadaMeteorite-a.jpg >> >> Link two: >> http://themeteoritesite.com/NevadaMeteorite-b.jpg >> Best Regards, >> >> Adam >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Latest Nevada Find, Not
Yes, it would be funny but this kind of person will rarely take no for an answer. It would not be surprised at all to see it on eBay half priced at two million dollars after I return it. I can imagine the description now: FOR SALE: Qty one spent comet, complete with degassed chamber. Be the only person on Earth, the only planet that serves beer, to own one. Be the envy of every planetary scientist in the world. Free shipping. Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Latest Nevada Find, Not
This just goes to show how bogus reports get into the news after so called experts are consulted. The biggest clue that it was not a meteorite was surely the scorched grass and the long skid mark along the grass instead of an impact pit. cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: > Adam, > What kind of Tar is it?? Too funny. > http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1320&dat=19930815&id=J-8RIBAJ&sjid=H-sDIBAJ&pg=4008,4347655 > > -- > Carl or Debbie Esparza > Meteoritemax > > > Adam Hupe wrote: > > Dear List, > > > > The "four million dollar meteorite" showed up that I mentioned yesterday. > > The sad thing is that these people actually convince themselves that these > > are real meteorites and that they are worth millions. This guy thinks his > > is exactly like Sonny's find that he saw on TV, only bigger. He says that > > he did his research, went to the neighborhood and found it, figuring a > > professional must have missed it. He wrote to me that he sealed it in a > > coffee can and smelled it a couple of days later. He stated that he could > > detect the unmistakable smell of Murchinson that only carbon type > > meteorites give off. I believe this object is made out of tar and that is > > what he is smelling or he has been sniffing the sauce (drinking too much > > alcohol). Either way, this is another heartbreak in the making. > > > > Now, I have the unpleasant task of returning it to him with the bad news > > that he is not the latest millionaire and that the funds for his > > granddaughter's medical bills will have to come from somewhere else.. > > > > Here are some images for those who may be interested: > > > > > > Link one: > > http://themeteoritesite.com/NevadaMeteorite-a.jpg > > > > Link two: > > http://themeteoritesite.com/NevadaMeteorite-b.jpg > > Best Regards, > > > > Adam > > __ > > Visit the Archives at > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Latest Nevada Find, Not
This just goes to show how bogus reports get into the news after so called experts are consulted. The biggest clue that it was not a meteorite was surely the scorched grass and the long skid mark along the grass instead of an impact pit. cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: > Adam, > What kind of Tar is it?? Too funny. > http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1320&dat=19930815&id=J-8RIBAJ&sjid=H-sDIBAJ&pg=4008,4347655 > > -- > Carl or Debbie Esparza > Meteoritemax > > > Adam Hupe wrote: > > Dear List, > > > > The "four million dollar meteorite" showed up that I mentioned yesterday. > > The sad thing is that these people actually convince themselves that these > > are real meteorites and that they are worth millions. This guy thinks his > > is exactly like Sonny's find that he saw on TV, only bigger. He says that > > he did his research, went to the neighborhood and found it, figuring a > > professional must have missed it. He wrote to me that he sealed it in a > > coffee can and smelled it a couple of days later. He stated that he could > > detect the unmistakable smell of Murchinson that only carbon type > > meteorites give off. I believe this object is made out of tar and that is > > what he is smelling or he has been sniffing the sauce (drinking too much > > alcohol). Either way, this is another heartbreak in the making. > > > > Now, I have the unpleasant task of returning it to him with the bad news > > that he is not the latest millionaire and that the funds for his > > granddaughter's medical bills will have to come from somewhere else.. > > > > Here are some images for those who may be interested: > > > > > > Link one: > > http://themeteoritesite.com/NevadaMeteorite-a.jpg > > > > Link two: > > http://themeteoritesite.com/NevadaMeteorite-b.jpg > > Best Regards, > > > > Adam > > __ > > Visit the Archives at > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Latest Nevada Find, Not
Adam, The ebay description would also probably say. "Dis meteor was send too and examined by world renounededead meteor exppert Addam hupes. And was returned to me sertifyed mail with his bested wishes!. ". -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Adam Hupe wrote: > Yes, it would be funny but this kind of person will rarely take no for an > answer. It would not be surprised at all to see it on eBay half priced at > two million dollars after I return it. I can imagine the description now: > > FOR SALE: > > Qty one spent comet, complete with degassed chamber. Be the only person on > Earth, the only planet that serves beer, to own one. Be the envy of every > planetary scientist in the world. Free shipping. > > Best Regards, > > Adam > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Latest Nevada Find, Not
>From the pic it looks like one of my grandson's diapers...specially the part >about the skid mark. Guido -Original Message- >From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com >Sent: Mar 31, 2010 2:45 PM >To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Latest Nevada Find, Not > >This just goes to show how bogus reports get into the news after so called >experts are consulted. The biggest clue that it was not a meteorite was surely >the scorched grass and the long skid mark along the grass instead of an impact >pit. > > > cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: >> Adam, >> What kind of Tar is it?? Too funny. >> http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1320&dat=19930815&id=J-8RIBAJ&sjid=H-sDIBAJ&pg=4008,4347655 >> >> -- >> Carl or Debbie Esparza >> Meteoritemax >> >> >> Adam Hupe wrote: >> > Dear List, >> > >> > The "four million dollar meteorite" showed up that I mentioned yesterday. >> > The sad thing is that these people actually convince themselves that these >> > are real meteorites and that they are worth millions. This guy thinks his >> > is exactly like Sonny's find that he saw on TV, only bigger. He says that >> > he did his research, went to the neighborhood and found it, figuring a >> > professional must have missed it. He wrote to me that he sealed it in a >> > coffee can and smelled it a couple of days later. He stated that he could >> > detect the unmistakable smell of Murchinson that only carbon type >> > meteorites give off. I believe this object is made out of tar and that is >> > what he is smelling or he has been sniffing the sauce (drinking too much >> > alcohol). Either way, this is another heartbreak in the making. >> > >> > Now, I have the unpleasant task of returning it to him with the bad news >> > that he is not the latest millionaire and that the funds for his >> > granddaughter's medical bills will have to come from somewhere else.. >> > >> > Here are some images for those who may be interested: >> > >> > >> > Link one: >> > http://themeteoritesite.com/NevadaMeteorite-a.jpg >> > >> > Link two: >> > http://themeteoritesite.com/NevadaMeteorite-b.jpg >> > Best Regards, >> > >> > Adam >> > __ >> > Visit the Archives at >> > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> > Meteorite-list mailing list >> > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia
Take a look at the photos in the article, does this appear to be an achondrite/eucrite maybe? - On the eastern Slovakia fell meteorite, scientists found fragments of http://www.rozhlas.cz/zpravy/vesmir/_zprava/714433 Eastern Slovakia fell to an hour before midnight on 28th February tens of kilograms of rock from space. These were fragments of a meteorite that burned up in atmosphere, lit up the sky in a radius of several hundred kilometers and frightening residents. Some fragments of the meteorite, astronomers have found, researched and today it is first shown to the public. How Radiožurnál said Marek Husařík of the Astronomical Institute of the Slovak Academy of Sciences, the largest piece weighs over two kilograms. Audio Interview with Mark Husařík from the Astronomical Institute of the Slovak Academy of Sciences in the afternoon Radiožurnál DOWNLOAD (download) "It has a dark gray color is relatively heavy compared to other stones, which are normally found on Earth," described Husařík rare find. Scientists have found fragments of municipalities of Klatovy Vyšný west of Kosice. Whence meteorid arrived, trying to find Slovak astronomers, together with experts from the Ondrejov Observatory of the Academy of Sciences. "Identify heliocentric orbit is not easy, it is necessary to determine the position of being the largest pieces of which we have actually only one," said Husařík. Impacts of meteorites on Earth are referred to him a frequent phenomenon, but it is not easy to record. "Specifically, the Slovak has been observed, there are five falls. Recent findings from the 1994 Rumanová the village, "he said. Part of the material universe is now going to analyze the composition, more debris then end up in museum in the Slovak Republic, the Czech Republic and Hungary. It then comes under Husařík important video that helped to identify the impact site. - Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia
Eric, Another surprising point; DID you happen to take a look at the fusion crust??? Anyone with experience as you claim should have noticed the fusion crust; is this what would be expected from a a Eucrite? Dirk Ross...Tokyo --- On Thu, 4/1/10, Meteorites USA wrote: From: Meteorites USA Subject: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia To: "Meteorite-list" Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:18 AM Take a look at the photos in the article, does this appear to be an achondrite/eucrite maybe? - On the eastern Slovakia fell meteorite, scientists found fragments of http://www.rozhlas.cz/zpravy/vesmir/_zprava/714433 Eastern Slovakia fell to an hour before midnight on 28th February tens of kilograms of rock from space. These were fragments of a meteorite that burned up in atmosphere, lit up the sky in a radius of several hundred kilometers and frightening residents. Some fragments of the meteorite, astronomers have found, researched and today it is first shown to the public. How Radiožurnál said Marek Husařík of the Astronomical Institute of the Slovak Academy of Sciences, the largest piece weighs over two kilograms. Audio Interview with Mark Husařík from the Astronomical Institute of the Slovak Academy of Sciences in the afternoon Radiožurnál DOWNLOAD (download) "It has a dark gray color is relatively heavy compared to other stones, which are normally found on Earth," described Husařík rare find. Scientists have found fragments of municipalities of Klatovy Vyšný west of Kosice. Whence meteorid arrived, trying to find Slovak astronomers, together with experts from the Ondrejov Observatory of the Academy of Sciences. "Identify heliocentric orbit is not easy, it is necessary to determine the position of being the largest pieces of which we have actually only one," said Husařík. Impacts of meteorites on Earth are referred to him a frequent phenomenon, but it is not easy to record. "Specifically, the Slovak has been observed, there are five falls. Recent findings from the 1994 Rumanová the village, "he said. Part of the material universe is now going to analyze the composition, more debris then end up in museum in the Slovak Republic, the Czech Republic and Hungary. It then comes under Husařík important video that helped to identify the impact site. - Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Latest Nevada Find, Not
It is interesting, and sad, what greed and blind hope do to some people. Best, John Gwilliam At 10:40 AM 3/31/2010, Adam Hupe wrote: Dear List, The "four million dollar meteorite" showed up that I mentioned yesterday. The sad thing is that these people actually convince themselves that these are real meteorites and that they are worth millions. This guy thinks his is exactly like Sonny's find that he saw on TV, only bigger. He says that he did his research, went to the neighborhood and found it, figuring a professional must have missed it. He wrote to me that he sealed it in a coffee can and smelled it a couple of days later. He stated that he could detect the unmistakable smell of Murchinson that only carbon type meteorites give off. I believe this object is made out of tar and that is what he is smelling or he has been sniffing the sauce (drinking too much alcohol). Either way, this is another heartbreak in the making. Now, I have the unpleasant task of returning it to him with the bad news that he is not the latest millionaire and that the funds for his granddaughter's medical bills will have to come from somewhere else.. Here are some images for those who may be interested: Link one: http://themeteoritesite.com/NevadaMeteorite-a.jpg Link two: http://themeteoritesite.com/NevadaMeteorite-b.jpg Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Regards, John Gwilliam Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. [Bob Dylan] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia
No Eric, You claim to offer meteorite ID and a news service for meteorite USA. This requires book and practical experience. No personal attack intended. Lack of basic study is not an excuse. Dirk Ross...Tokyo --- On Thu, 4/1/10, Meteorites USA wrote: > From: Meteorites USA > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia > To: "drtanuki" > Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:32 AM > Excuse me? Am I taking this right? > Are you implying something here Dirk!? > > "...Anyone with experience as you claim should have noticed > the fusion crust;..." > > I certainly hope you aren't implying anything negative! > > Regards, > Eric > > On 3/31/2010 1:28 PM, drtanuki wrote: > > Eric, Another surprising point; DID you happen > to take a look at the fusion crust??? Anyone with > experience as you claim should have noticed the fusion > crust; is this what would be expected from a a > Eucrite? Dirk Ross...Tokyo > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia
The fusion crust does look like that of an Eucrite. Exhibits the typical high gloss and more of a melted texture due to the high CA content in Eucrites. Very nice. Greg S. > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:40:33 -0700 > From: drtan...@yahoo.com > To: e...@meteoritesusa.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia > > No Eric, > You claim to offer meteorite ID and a news service for meteorite USA. This > requires book and practical experience. No personal attack intended. Lack of > basic study is not an excuse. Dirk Ross...Tokyo > > --- On Thu, 4/1/10, Meteorites USA wrote: > >> From: Meteorites USA >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia >> To: "drtanuki" >> Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:32 AM >> Excuse me? Am I taking this right? >> Are you implying something here Dirk!? >> >> "...Anyone with experience as you claim should have noticed >> the fusion crust;..." >> >> I certainly hope you aren't implying anything negative! >> >> Regards, >> Eric >> >> On 3/31/2010 1:28 PM, drtanuki wrote: >>> Eric, Another surprising point; DID you happen >> to take a look at the fusion crust??? Anyone with >> experience as you claim should have noticed the fusion >> crust; is this what would be expected from a a >> Eucrite? Dirk Ross...Tokyo >> > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_3 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Whats the average Strewn Field size for meteorite fall and could size predict Strewn Field size?
Hello Listers I have a good question about the average size of a Strewn Fields. A good example would be the Ash Creek fall in 2009. Whats the size of that Strewn Field and the collected amount of weight so far from that fall? Why I ask is because there could be a pattern with size of meteorites, the amount of meteorites recovered, or the lack there of, and one might be able to predict the size of the Strewn Field even if there is only one or two meteorite pieces recovered. This average could be applied to the Lorton Fall a few months ago in Virgina, which to this date only one individual pieces has been recovered at 318g. One could suggest that this piece could be the main mass and calculate the mean average of the suggested strewn field that could result from this weight. By doing this and also cross referencing with other falls that have a mean average weight from the main mass and TKW recovered could this predict the average size of the strewn field as long as the class of the meteorites falls are in the same category? Shawn Alan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia
Another with lack of experience? Prove me wrong! Dirk Ross. I will eat another shoe! --- On Thu, 4/1/10, Greg Stanley wrote: > From: Greg Stanley > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia > To: drtan...@yahoo.com, e...@meteoritesusa.com, > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:58 AM > > The fusion crust does look like that of an Eucrite. > Exhibits the typical high gloss and more of a melted texture > due to the high CA content in Eucrites. Very nice. > > Greg S. > > > > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:40:33 -0700 > > From: drtan...@yahoo.com > > To: e...@meteoritesusa.com; > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern > Slovakia > > > > No Eric, > > You claim to offer meteorite ID and a news service for > meteorite USA. This requires book and practical experience. > No personal attack intended. Lack of basic study is not an > excuse. Dirk Ross...Tokyo > > > > --- On Thu, 4/1/10, Meteorites USA wrote: > > > >> From: Meteorites USA > >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - > Eastern Slovakia > >> To: "drtanuki" > >> Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:32 AM > >> Excuse me? Am I taking this right? > >> Are you implying something here Dirk!? > >> > >> "...Anyone with experience as you claim should > have noticed > >> the fusion crust;..." > >> > >> I certainly hope you aren't implying anything > negative! > >> > >> Regards, > >> Eric > >> > >> On 3/31/2010 1:28 PM, drtanuki wrote: > >>> Eric, Another surprising point; DID you > happen > >> to take a look at the fusion crust??? Anyone > with > >> experience as you claim should have noticed the > fusion > >> crust; is this what would be expected from a a > >> Eucrite? Dirk Ross...Tokyo > >> > > __ > > Visit the Archives at > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > _ > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail > from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_3 > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia
Phew, just when I was about to send the post below to the List, another post arrived here, and ...c'mon folks, let's be courteous. We've been through such things many times before, I've been through such things in our German Forum and I can tell you, it will only lead to other direct or indirect attacks which will polarize the MetList members ... only result: a lot of broken glass! .. and another post. You see, it's getting destructive instead of constructive :-( Hi Dirk, Eric, and List, Eric wondered: "... does this appear to be an achondrite/eucrite maybe?" Dirk responded: "the fusion crust; is this what would be expected from a eucrite?" Looks more like an ordinary chondrite, H5 or H6, because of its dull, matte crust! If it was a fresh eucrite, the crust should be much more"glossy" or "wet-looking" because eucrites are calcium-rich and usually have a small amount of iron and that's why they look "wet". Best wishes from Germany, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] [2nd Sighting] Fireball in Florida Tuesday night
Hello All, I interviewed someone today in Florida (in person) who witnessed last night's fireball in Florida. Here are the coordinates from where this person witnessed it near Sebring, FL: 27°23'48.91"N 81°24'4.84"W This lady and her husband were driving north on County Road 17 just south of Sebring. She confirmed, along with her husband on the phone, that it fell around 9:30 pm straight down (towards north), but slightly to the right (east). They saw the fireball moving and then "light up" before disappearing on the horizon. They did not see it fall into pieces like Larry's friend did up in Gainesville so It fell closer to Gainesville opposed to Sebring. Here is a link to an image I put together using Larry's witness report and mine to show fall directions from these two witnesses . I tried to load on a Google Earth satellite image but after re-installing everything on my computer last week, I can not make Google Earth work properly. I am trying Firefox instead of Internet Explorer, but neither seems to let me use the Push-Pin option while viewing in satellite view. No time to mess with it now, have to pack for a trip somewhere else, leaving tomorrow. http://www.lunarrock.com/floridafireball3-30-10/florida3-30-10.jpg I would check for radar images from Ocala, Orlando, Tampa and Lakeland. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: To: Cc: "Meteorite-list" Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:33 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] FIreball in Florida Tuesday night Hi Everyone: A friend of mine (Greg Beckner) in Gainsville, FL just sent me this. He was out with a group of scouts and saw the following (second paragraph): I took my Cub Scout pack to the model airplane field last night & showed them a few R/C aircraft. A sidebar to that is the field is several miles out of town and has a good view of the horizon and darker skies, so I also took the telescope. We saw Mercury about 5 deg from Venus last night & a few deep sky objects at the last part of Astronomical twilight & before moon came up. Around 9:30 local time, while packing up, I saw the most impressive fireball meteor almost directly to the south. It started like an Iridium flare, but just got brighter & brighter. It was close enough where you could see a flame structure and fragments breaking off. Will the next "Meteorite Men" episode be filmed here??? So far, nothing in paper yet. Is there something that keeps track of such events? I'm sure we weren't the only ones seeing it (*it scared the crap out of my kids!!!) Here's GPS cords of flying field - I was looking Almost Due South - maybe just a little to the East of due South. Time was perhaps between 9:20 & 9:40pm EDT. Path of the object was almost straight down & it was about 35 deg up... N 29° 31' 07" W 082° 33' 32" Larry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2780 - Release Date: 03/30/10 14:32:00 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia
I think, this photo of eucrite is only an EXAMPLE send by Mr Spurny and its not from this fall. For me its only ilustration for article, and yes it looks like fresh eucrite. But meteorites found in Slovakia/Hungary is H5 chondrite. It looks like OC than achondrite here http://aktualne.centrum.sk/veda-a-technika/clanek.phtml?id=1205004 Here is nice two video. Second one show how clearly that this is chondrite http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fkorzar.sme.sk%2Fc%2F5310123%2Fastronomovia-nasli-pri-vysnom-klatove-zvysky-meteoritu.html&sl=auto&tl=en Who is going to hunt ? Im around 200km from site :D -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] Take a look at the photos in the article, does this appear to be an achondrite/eucrite maybe? - On the eastern Slovakia fell meteorite, scientists found fragments of http://www.rozhlas.cz/zpravy/vesmir/_zprava/714433 Eastern Slovakia fell to an hour before midnight on 28th February tens of kilograms of rock from space. These were fragments of a meteorite that burned up in atmosphere, lit up the sky in a radius of several hundred kilometers and frightening residents. Some fragments of the meteorite, astronomers have found, researched and today it is first shown to the public. How Radiožurnál said Marek Husařík of the Astronomical Institute of the Slovak Academy of Sciences, the largest piece weighs over two kilograms. Audio Interview with Mark Husařík from the Astronomical Institute of the Slovak Academy of Sciences in the afternoon Radiožurnál DOWNLOAD (download) "It has a dark gray color is relatively heavy compared to other stones, which are normally found on Earth," described Husařík rare find. Scientists have found fragments of municipalities of Klatovy Vyšný west of Kosice. Whence meteorid arrived, trying to find Slovak astronomers, together with experts from the Ondrejov Observatory of the Academy of Sciences. "Identify heliocentric orbit is not easy, it is necessary to determine the position of being the largest pieces of which we have actually only one," said Husařík. Impacts of meteorites on Earth are referred to him a frequent phenomenon, but it is not easy to record. "Specifically, the Slovak has been observed, there are five falls. Recent findings from the 1994 Rumanová the village, "he said. Part of the material universe is now going to analyze the composition, more debris then end up in museum in the Slovak Republic, the Czech Republic and Hungary. It then comes under Husařík important video that helped to identify the impact site. - Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia
Another with lack of experience? Prove me wrong! Dirk Ross. I will eat another shoe! what You mean ? --- On Thu, 4/1/10, Greg Stanley wrote: From: Greg Stanley Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia To: drtan...@yahoo.com, e...@meteoritesusa.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:58 AM The fusion crust does look like that of an Eucrite. Exhibits the typical high gloss and more of a melted texture due to the high CA content in Eucrites. Very nice. Greg S. > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:40:33 -0700 > From: drtan...@yahoo.com > To: e...@meteoritesusa.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia > > No Eric, > You claim to offer meteorite ID and a news service for meteorite USA. This requires book and practical experience. No personal attack intended. Lack of basic study is not an excuse. Dirk Ross...Tokyo > > --- On Thu, 4/1/10, Meteorites USA wrote: > >> From: Meteorites USA >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia >> To: "drtanuki" >> Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:32 AM >> Excuse me? Am I taking this right? >> Are you implying something here Dirk!? >> >> "...Anyone with experience as you claim should have noticed >> the fusion crust;..." >> >> I certainly hope you aren't implying anything negative! >> >> Regards, >> Eric >> >> On 3/31/2010 1:28 PM, drtanuki wrote: >>> Eric, Another surprising point; DID you happen >> to take a look at the fusion crust??? Anyone with >> experience as you claim should have noticed the fusion >> crust; is this what would be expected from a a >> Eucrite? Dirk Ross...Tokyo >> > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_3 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia
Dirk, Please do not make the mistake of challenging me publicly and questioning my experience and knowledge... That's exactly what you're doing and everyone reading this thread knows it. You have now forwarded a private email that I sent to you to the list. You seem to have a problem with me personally. I will ask you politely only ONCE to take your impolite and unprofessional and challenging remarks off-list to a private correspondence with me. Before you decide you may want to look at a closeup of the stones I had the question about. http://www.meteoritesusa.com/images/slovakia-meteorite.jpg Regards, Eric On 3/31/2010 1:40 PM, drtanuki wrote: No Eric, You claim to offer meteorite ID and a news service for meteorite USA. This requires book and practical experience. No personal attack intended. Lack of basic study is not an excuse. Dirk Ross...Tokyo --- On Thu, 4/1/10, Meteorites USA wrote: From: Meteorites USA Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia To: "drtanuki" Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:32 AM Excuse me? Am I taking this right? Are you implying something here Dirk!? "...Anyone with experience as you claim should have noticed the fusion crust;..." I certainly hope you aren't implying anything negative! Regards, Eric On 3/31/2010 1:28 PM, drtanuki wrote: Eric, Another surprising point; DID you happen to take a look at the fusion crust??? Anyone with experience as you claim should have noticed the fusion crust; is this what would be expected from a a Eucrite? Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia
Bernd, List, Thanks for the words of wisdom. These are the stones I was inquiring about: http://www.meteoritesusa.com/images/slovakia-meteorite.jpg NOT These: http://www.rozhlas.cz/zpravy/vesmir/_zprava/634290 Regards, Eric On 3/31/2010 2:01 PM, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: Phew, just when I was about to send the post below to the List, another post arrived here, and ...c'mon folks, let's be courteous. We've been through such things many times before, I've been through such things in our German Forum and I can tell you, it will only lead to other direct or indirect attacks which will polarize the MetList members ... only result: a lot of broken glass! .. and another post. You see, it's getting destructive instead of constructive :-( Hi Dirk, Eric, and List, Eric wondered: "... does this appear to be an achondrite/eucrite maybe?" Dirk responded: "the fusion crust; is this what would be expected from a eucrite?" Looks more like an ordinary chondrite, H5 or H6, because of its dull, matte crust! If it was a fresh eucrite, the crust should be much more"glossy" or "wet-looking" because eucrites are calcium-rich and usually have a small amount of iron and that's why they look "wet". Best wishes from Germany, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [2nd Sighting] Fireball in Florida Tuesday night
Hi Greg: Thanks for this information. From what I can tell Route 17 does not always go true north, so is it possible that "north" is a little more toward the west? Maybe radar saw it. Thanks again. Larry > Hello All, > > I interviewed someone today in Florida (in person) who witnessed last > night's fireball in Florida. Here are the coordinates from where this > person > witnessed it near Sebring, FL: > 27°23'48.91"N > 81°24'4.84"W > > This lady and her husband were driving north on County Road 17 just south > of > Sebring. She confirmed, along with her husband on the phone, that it fell > around 9:30 pm straight down (towards north), but slightly to the right > (east). They saw the fireball moving and then "light up" before > disappearing > on the horizon. They did not see it fall into pieces like Larry's friend > did > up in Gainesville so It fell closer to Gainesville opposed to Sebring. > > Here is a link to an image I put together using Larry's witness report and > mine to show fall directions from these two witnesses . I tried to load on > a > Google Earth satellite image but after re-installing everything on my > computer last week, I can not make Google Earth work properly. I am trying > Firefox instead of Internet Explorer, but neither seems to let me use the > Push-Pin option while viewing in satellite view. No time to mess with it > now, have to pack for a trip somewhere else, leaving tomorrow. > http://www.lunarrock.com/floridafireball3-30-10/florida3-30-10.jpg > > I would check for radar images from Ocala, Orlando, Tampa and Lakeland. > > Best regards, > Greg > > > Greg Hupe > The Hupe Collection > NaturesVault (eBay) > gmh...@htn.net > www.LunarRock.com > IMCA 3163 > > Click here for my current eBay auctions: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault > > - Original Message - > From: > To: > Cc: "Meteorite-list" > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:33 AM > Subject: [meteorite-list] FIreball in Florida Tuesday night > > > Hi Everyone: > > A friend of mine (Greg Beckner) in Gainsville, FL just sent me this. He > was out with a group of scouts and saw the following (second paragraph): > > I took my Cub Scout pack to the model airplane field last night & showed > them a few R/C aircraft. A sidebar to that is the field is several miles > out of town and has a good view of the horizon and darker skies, so I also > took the telescope. We saw Mercury about 5 deg from Venus last night & a > few deep sky objects at the last part of Astronomical twilight & before > moon came up. > > Around 9:30 local time, while packing up, I saw the most impressive > fireball meteor almost directly to the south. It started like an Iridium > flare, but just got brighter & brighter. It was close > enough where you could see a flame structure and fragments breaking off. > Will the next "Meteorite Men" episode be filmed here??? So far, nothing > in paper yet. Is there something that keeps track of such events? I'm > sure we weren't the only ones seeing it (*it scared the crap out of my > kids!!!) > > > Here's GPS cords of flying field - I was looking Almost Due South - maybe > just a > little to the East of due South. Time was perhaps between 9:20 & 9:40pm > EDT. Path of the object was almost straight down & it was about 35 deg > up... > > N 29° 31' 07" > W 082° 33' 32" > > Larry > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2780 - Release Date: 03/30/10 > 14:32:00 > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia
Hi List, Marcin is correct, After looking at "the fine print" I see that I made a mistake about the photo. The photo used for the article was an "(illustrative photo)" only and not the actual stones from this fall. I still stand behind my ID that the ones in the original photo I was asking about are quite possibly eucrites. http://www.meteoritesusa.com/images/slovakia-meteorite.jpg Now the only mistake I made was to not read the small print. Oopsy... ;) Sorry guys. Regards, Eric On 3/31/2010 2:07 PM, Marcin Cimala - PolandMET wrote: I think, this photo of eucrite is only an EXAMPLE send by Mr Spurny and its not from this fall. For me its only ilustration for article, and yes it looks like fresh eucrite. But meteorites found in Slovakia/Hungary is H5 chondrite. It looks like OC than achondrite here http://aktualne.centrum.sk/veda-a-technika/clanek.phtml?id=1205004 Here is nice two video. Second one show how clearly that this is chondrite http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fkorzar.sme.sk%2Fc%2F5310123%2Fastronomovia-nasli-pri-vysnom-klatove-zvysky-meteoritu.html&sl=auto&tl=en Who is going to hunt ? Im around 200km from site :D -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] Take a look at the photos in the article, does this appear to be an achondrite/eucrite maybe? - On the eastern Slovakia fell meteorite, scientists found fragments of http://www.rozhlas.cz/zpravy/vesmir/_zprava/714433 Eastern Slovakia fell to an hour before midnight on 28th February tens of kilograms of rock from space. These were fragments of a meteorite that burned up in atmosphere, lit up the sky in a radius of several hundred kilometers and frightening residents. Some fragments of the meteorite, astronomers have found, researched and today it is first shown to the public. How Radiožurnál said Marek Husařík of the Astronomical Institute of the Slovak Academy of Sciences, the largest piece weighs over two kilograms. Audio Interview with Mark Husařík from the Astronomical Institute of the Slovak Academy of Sciences in the afternoon Radiožurnál DOWNLOAD (download) "It has a dark gray color is relatively heavy compared to other stones, which are normally found on Earth," described Husařík rare find. Scientists have found fragments of municipalities of Klatovy Vyšný west of Kosice. Whence meteorid arrived, trying to find Slovak astronomers, together with experts from the Ondrejov Observatory of the Academy of Sciences. "Identify heliocentric orbit is not easy, it is necessary to determine the position of being the largest pieces of which we have actually only one," said Husařík. Impacts of meteorites on Earth are referred to him a frequent phenomenon, but it is not easy to record. "Specifically, the Slovak has been observed, there are five falls. Recent findings from the 1994 Rumanová the village, "he said. Part of the material universe is now going to analyze the composition, more debris then end up in museum in the Slovak Republic, the Czech Republic and Hungary. It then comes under Husařík important video that helped to identify the impact site. - Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [2nd Sighting] Fireball in Florida Tuesday night
>>This lady and her husband were driving north on County Road 17 just south > of > Sebring. She confirmed, along with her husband on the phone, that it fell > around 9:30 pm straight down (towards north), but slightly to the right > (east). They saw the fireball moving and then "light up" before > disappearing > on the horizon. They did not see it fall into pieces like Larry's friend > did > up in Gainesville so It fell closer to Gainesville opposed to Sebring.<< About how bright and how many seconds did this event last and about how long of a trail? GeoZay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Whats the average Strewn Field size for meteoritefall and could size predict Strewn Field size?
Hi Shawn, Years ago, I remember reading that the median number of stones produced in a witnessed fall is 5. (The average is certainly much more than this since some falls have produced thousands of meteorites, and there have only been about 1100 falls.) The size (i.e. length) of any strewn field is most directly related to the entry angle of the original meteoroid, and the local wind velocity profile at the fall location. For steep entry angles, local wind speed may be the dominant factor in strewn field length and orientation (as will be the case with the Lorton fall if a second stone is found). The total number of stones produced in any fall will be quite unpredictable since it critically depends on several unknown factors: bulk porosity of the meteoroid, its initial shape and mass, etc. Often we don't even know the entry angle or entry velocity of a fall, both of which influence the amount of fragmentation. If you have only one meteorite sample from which to draw conclusions about the possible total number of meteorites in a fall, mass is probably not a very good indicator. Better indicators might be friability or the presence of a secondary fusion crust. Cheers, Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Alan Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:00 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Whats the average Strewn Field size for meteoritefall and could size predict Strewn Field size? Hello Listers I have a good question about the average size of a Strewn Fields. A good example would be the Ash Creek fall in 2009. Whats the size of that Strewn Field and the collected amount of weight so far from that fall? Why I ask is because there could be a pattern with size of meteorites, the amount of meteorites recovered, or the lack there of, and one might be able to predict the size of the Strewn Field even if there is only one or two meteorite pieces recovered. This average could be applied to the Lorton Fall a few months ago in Virgina, which to this date only one individual pieces has been recovered at 318g. One could suggest that this piece could be the main mass and calculate the mean average of the suggested strewn field that could result from this weight. By doing this and also cross referencing with other falls that have a mean average weight from the main mass and TKW recovered could this predict the average size of the strewn field as long as the class of the meteorites falls are in the same category? Shawn Alan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [2nd Sighting] Fireball in Florida Tuesday night
George, I received a report in stating that it was about 5 seconds in duration. Regards, Eric On 3/31/2010 2:29 PM, geo...@aol.com wrote: This lady and her husband were driving north on County Road 17 just south of Sebring. She confirmed, along with her husband on the phone, that it fell around 9:30 pm straight down (towards north), but slightly to the right (east). They saw the fireball moving and then "light up" before disappearing on the horizon. They did not see it fall into pieces like Larry's friend did up in Gainesville so It fell closer to Gainesville opposed to Sebring.<< About how bright and how many seconds did this event last and about how long of a trail? GeoZay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia
The article states: "The Czech Geological Survey preliminary examination of the H5 type chondrite..." http://www.origo.hu/tudomany/vilagur/20100331-megvan-a-meteorit-a-magyarorszagrol-latott-tuzgomb-lehullott-darabjait-megtalaltak.html Mike Bandli - Original Message - From: "Meteorites USA" To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:27:55 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia Hi List, Marcin is correct, After looking at "the fine print" I see that I made a mistake about the photo. The photo used for the article was an "(illustrative photo)" only and not the actual stones from this fall. I still stand behind my ID that the ones in the original photo I was asking about are quite possibly eucrites. http://www.meteoritesusa.com/images/slovakia-meteorite.jpg Now the only mistake I made was to not read the small print. Oopsy... ;) Sorry guys. Regards, Eric On 3/31/2010 2:07 PM, Marcin Cimala - PolandMET wrote: > I think, this photo of eucrite is only an EXAMPLE send by Mr Spurny > and its not from this fall. For me its only ilustration for article, > and yes it looks like fresh eucrite. But meteorites found in > Slovakia/Hungary is H5 chondrite. It looks like OC than achondrite here > http://aktualne.centrum.sk/veda-a-technika/clanek.phtml?id=1205004 > > Here is nice two video. Second one show how clearly that this is > chondrite > > http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fkorzar.sme.sk%2Fc%2F5310123%2Fastronomovia-nasli-pri-vysnom-klatove-zvysky-meteoritu.html&sl=auto&tl=en > > > > Who is going to hunt ? Im around 200km from site :D > > -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- > http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl > http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com > http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 > [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] > > >> Take a look at the photos in the article, does this appear to be an >> achondrite/eucrite maybe? >> >> - >> On the eastern Slovakia fell meteorite, scientists found fragments of >> http://www.rozhlas.cz/zpravy/vesmir/_zprava/714433 >> Eastern Slovakia fell to an hour before midnight on 28th February >> tens of kilograms of rock from space. These were fragments of a >> meteorite that burned up in atmosphere, lit up the sky in a radius of >> several hundred kilometers and frightening residents. >> >> Some fragments of the meteorite, astronomers have found, researched >> and today it is first shown to the public. How Radiožurnál said Marek >> Husařík of the Astronomical Institute of the Slovak Academy of >> Sciences, the largest piece weighs over two kilograms. >> Audio >> Interview with Mark Husařík from the Astronomical Institute of the >> Slovak Academy of Sciences in the afternoon Radiožurnál >> DOWNLOAD (download) >> >> "It has a dark gray color is relatively heavy compared to other >> stones, which are normally found on Earth," described Husařík rare find. >> >> Scientists have found fragments of municipalities of Klatovy Vyšný >> west of Kosice. Whence meteorid arrived, trying to find Slovak >> astronomers, together with experts from the Ondrejov Observatory of >> the Academy of Sciences. >> >> "Identify heliocentric orbit is not easy, it is necessary to >> determine the position of being the largest pieces of which we have >> actually only one," said Husařík. >> >> Impacts of meteorites on Earth are referred to him a frequent >> phenomenon, but it is not easy to record. "Specifically, the Slovak >> has been observed, there are five falls. Recent findings from the >> 1994 Rumanová the village, "he said. >> >> Part of the material universe is now going to analyze the >> composition, more debris then end up in museum in the Slovak >> Republic, the Czech Republic and Hungary. It then comes under Husařík >> important video that helped to identify the impact site. >> - >> >> Regards, >> Eric Wichman >> Meteorites USA >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-
Re: [meteorite-list] [2nd Sighting] Fireball in Florida Tuesdaynight
Hey GeoZay, "About how bright and how many seconds did this event last and about how long of a trail?" I asked if the sky lit up and she said, "Not really, but before it disappeared [below the horizon], it became brighter." I asked if she saw it break into several pieces and she said, "No." Larry's witness saw it fall into several pieces so this is why I think it would be more north from where my Sebring witness saw it. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [2nd Sighting] Fireball in Florida Tuesdaynight This lady and her husband were driving north on County Road 17 just south of Sebring. She confirmed, along with her husband on the phone, that it fell around 9:30 pm straight down (towards north), but slightly to the right (east). They saw the fireball moving and then "light up" before disappearing on the horizon. They did not see it fall into pieces like Larry's friend did up in Gainesville so It fell closer to Gainesville opposed to Sebring.<< About how bright and how many seconds did this event last and about how long of a trail? GeoZay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2782 - Release Date: 03/31/10 14:32:00 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia
Hi Mike, Thanks for the link. I had not read that one yet. Regards, Eric On 3/31/2010 2:40 PM, Mike Bandli wrote: The article states: "The Czech Geological Survey preliminary examination of the H5 type chondrite..." http://www.origo.hu/tudomany/vilagur/20100331-megvan-a-meteorit-a-magyarorszagrol-latott-tuzgomb-lehullott-darabjait-megtalaltak.html Mike Bandli - Original Message - From: "Meteorites USA" To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:27:55 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia Hi List, Marcin is correct, After looking at "the fine print" I see that I made a mistake about the photo. The photo used for the article was an "(illustrative photo)" only and not the actual stones from this fall. I still stand behind my ID that the ones in the original photo I was asking about are quite possibly eucrites. http://www.meteoritesusa.com/images/slovakia-meteorite.jpg Now the only mistake I made was to not read the small print. Oopsy... ;) Sorry guys. Regards, Eric On 3/31/2010 2:07 PM, Marcin Cimala - PolandMET wrote: I think, this photo of eucrite is only an EXAMPLE send by Mr Spurny and its not from this fall. For me its only ilustration for article, and yes it looks like fresh eucrite. But meteorites found in Slovakia/Hungary is H5 chondrite. It looks like OC than achondrite here http://aktualne.centrum.sk/veda-a-technika/clanek.phtml?id=1205004 Here is nice two video. Second one show how clearly that this is chondrite http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fkorzar.sme.sk%2Fc%2F5310123%2Fastronomovia-nasli-pri-vysnom-klatove-zvysky-meteoritu.html&sl=auto&tl=en Who is going to hunt ? Im around 200km from site :D -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] Take a look at the photos in the article, does this appear to be an achondrite/eucrite maybe? - On the eastern Slovakia fell meteorite, scientists found fragments of http://www.rozhlas.cz/zpravy/vesmir/_zprava/714433 Eastern Slovakia fell to an hour before midnight on 28th February tens of kilograms of rock from space. These were fragments of a meteorite that burned up in atmosphere, lit up the sky in a radius of several hundred kilometers and frightening residents. Some fragments of the meteorite, astronomers have found, researched and today it is first shown to the public. How Radiožurnál said Marek Husařík of the Astronomical Institute of the Slovak Academy of Sciences, the largest piece weighs over two kilograms. Audio Interview with Mark Husařík from the Astronomical Institute of the Slovak Academy of Sciences in the afternoon Radiožurnál DOWNLOAD (download) "It has a dark gray color is relatively heavy compared to other stones, which are normally found on Earth," described Husařík rare find. Scientists have found fragments of municipalities of Klatovy Vyšný west of Kosice. Whence meteorid arrived, trying to find Slovak astronomers, together with experts from the Ondrejov Observatory of the Academy of Sciences. "Identify heliocentric orbit is not easy, it is necessary to determine the position of being the largest pieces of which we have actually only one," said Husařík. Impacts of meteorites on Earth are referred to him a frequent phenomenon, but it is not easy to record. "Specifically, the Slovak has been observed, there are five falls. Recent findings from the 1994 Rumanová the village, "he said. Part of the material universe is now going to analyze the composition, more debris then end up in museum in the Slovak Republic, the Czech Republic and Hungary. It then comes under Husařík important video that helped to identify the impact site. - Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ___
Re: [meteorite-list] [2nd Sighting] Fireball in Florida Tuesday night
Hi Larry, The section of Route 17 she was on was about 4 or 5 miles south of Hwy 98. Route 17 does wind around a bit at the location of sighting, and so does Hwy 98. She said they were heading north at that time so at least their sighting, along with your friend's, should suggest material landed in the state somewhere between Gainesville and Sebring (a huge area with lots of lakes!). A few more sightings put on the map I provided should start to put the picture together (How about your witnesses, Eric?). Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: To: "Greg Hupe" Cc: ; "Meteorite-list" Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [2nd Sighting] Fireball in Florida Tuesday night Hi Greg: Thanks for this information. From what I can tell Route 17 does not always go true north, so is it possible that "north" is a little more toward the west? Maybe radar saw it. Thanks again. Larry Hello All, I interviewed someone today in Florida (in person) who witnessed last night's fireball in Florida. Here are the coordinates from where this person witnessed it near Sebring, FL: 27°23'48.91"N 81°24'4.84"W This lady and her husband were driving north on County Road 17 just south of Sebring. She confirmed, along with her husband on the phone, that it fell around 9:30 pm straight down (towards north), but slightly to the right (east). They saw the fireball moving and then "light up" before disappearing on the horizon. They did not see it fall into pieces like Larry's friend did up in Gainesville so It fell closer to Gainesville opposed to Sebring. Here is a link to an image I put together using Larry's witness report and mine to show fall directions from these two witnesses . I tried to load on a Google Earth satellite image but after re-installing everything on my computer last week, I can not make Google Earth work properly. I am trying Firefox instead of Internet Explorer, but neither seems to let me use the Push-Pin option while viewing in satellite view. No time to mess with it now, have to pack for a trip somewhere else, leaving tomorrow. http://www.lunarrock.com/floridafireball3-30-10/florida3-30-10.jpg I would check for radar images from Ocala, Orlando, Tampa and Lakeland. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: To: Cc: "Meteorite-list" Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:33 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] FIreball in Florida Tuesday night Hi Everyone: A friend of mine (Greg Beckner) in Gainsville, FL just sent me this. He was out with a group of scouts and saw the following (second paragraph): I took my Cub Scout pack to the model airplane field last night & showed them a few R/C aircraft. A sidebar to that is the field is several miles out of town and has a good view of the horizon and darker skies, so I also took the telescope. We saw Mercury about 5 deg from Venus last night & a few deep sky objects at the last part of Astronomical twilight & before moon came up. Around 9:30 local time, while packing up, I saw the most impressive fireball meteor almost directly to the south. It started like an Iridium flare, but just got brighter & brighter. It was close enough where you could see a flame structure and fragments breaking off. Will the next "Meteorite Men" episode be filmed here??? So far, nothing in paper yet. Is there something that keeps track of such events? I'm sure we weren't the only ones seeing it (*it scared the crap out of my kids!!!) Here's GPS cords of flying field - I was looking Almost Due South - maybe just a little to the East of due South. Time was perhaps between 9:20 & 9:40pm EDT. Path of the object was almost straight down & it was about 35 deg up... N 29° 31' 07" W 082° 33' 32" Larry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2780 - Release Date: 03/30/10 14:32:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2782 - Release Date: 03/31/10 14:32:00 __ Visit the Archiv
Re: [meteorite-list] [2nd Sighting] Fireball in Florida Tuesday night
Hi Gracie, By what the two witnesses so far have reported, I would give it an excellent chance of having produced meteorites, but finding them is a whole different story unless one hit something and was found! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: "gracie" To: "Greg Hupe" Cc: ; "Meteorite-list" Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [2nd Sighting] Fireball in Florida Tuesday night Greg and Larry, I'm actually in Gainesville, though I missed the sighting last night. No rains are expected soon . . Adam, do you think there might actually be stones on the ground? Larry, about your question regarding keeping track of fireballs, I'd recommend you or your friend create an report over at the American Meteor Society (http://www.amsmeteors.org/). I'll also be keeping an eye out here for local reports and ask everyone I know here if they saw anything. How exciting! Gracie Hello All, I interviewed someone today in Florida (in person) who witnessed last night's fireball in Florida. Here are the coordinates from where this person witnessed it near Sebring, FL: 27°23'48.91"N 81°24'4.84"W This lady and her husband were driving north on County Road 17 just south of Sebring. She confirmed, along with her husband on the phone, that it fell around 9:30 pm straight down (towards north), but slightly to the right (east). They saw the fireball moving and then "light up" before disappearing on the horizon. They did not see it fall into pieces like Larry's friend did up in Gainesville so It fell closer to Gainesville opposed to Sebring. Here is a link to an image I put together using Larry's witness report and mine to show fall directions from these two witnesses . I tried to load on a Google Earth satellite image but after re-installing everything on my computer last week, I can not make Google Earth work properly. I am trying Firefox instead of Internet Explorer, but neither seems to let me use the Push-Pin option while viewing in satellite view. No time to mess with it now, have to pack for a trip somewhere else, leaving tomorrow. http://www.lunarrock.com/floridafireball3-30-10/florida3-30-10.jpg I would check for radar images from Ocala, Orlando, Tampa and Lakeland. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: To: Cc: "Meteorite-list" Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:33 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] FIreball in Florida Tuesday night Hi Everyone: A friend of mine (Greg Beckner) in Gainsville, FL just sent me this. He was out with a group of scouts and saw the following (second paragraph): I took my Cub Scout pack to the model airplane field last night & showed them a few R/C aircraft. A sidebar to that is the field is several miles out of town and has a good view of the horizon and darker skies, so I also took the telescope. We saw Mercury about 5 deg from Venus last night & a few deep sky objects at the last part of Astronomical twilight & before moon came up. Around 9:30 local time, while packing up, I saw the most impressive fireball meteor almost directly to the south. It started like an Iridium flare, but just got brighter & brighter. It was close enough where you could see a flame structure and fragments breaking off. Will the next "Meteorite Men" episode be filmed here??? So far, nothing in paper yet. Is there something that keeps track of such events? I'm sure we weren't the only ones seeing it (*it scared the crap out of my kids!!!) Here's GPS cords of flying field - I was looking Almost Due South - maybe just a little to the East of due South. Time was perhaps between 9:20 & 9:40pm EDT. Path of the object was almost straight down & it was about 35 deg up... N 29° 31' 07" W 082° 33' 32" Larry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2780 - Release Date: 03/30/10 14:32:00 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -
[meteorite-list] Central Florida bolide of 30 March 2010
Hi Greg, I agree with your interpretation -- since fragmentation was witnessed in Gainesville, and not in Sebring, all things being equal I would place the fall closer to Gainesville. (An exception might be if the Gainesville observer could see closer to the geometric horizon than could the Sebring driver.) As for direction, County Rd. 17 (southeast of Sebring) occasionally heads to the NW rather than due north, and since the due north direction would not intersect the line-of-sight of the Gainesville observer, I'm inclined to believe she was on a portion of the road that was heading NW or NNW at the time of the fall. I'm guessing the fall would be somewhere in the vicinity of Ocala. I'll check the real-time Doppler radar data to see if anything is there. (I'm expecting nothing will show up.) The higher-quality, multi-elevation-angle Doppler data will be available starting tomorrow, and I can check it then. --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Greg Hupe Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:46 PM To: geo...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [2nd Sighting] Fireball in Florida Tuesdaynight Hey GeoZay, "About how bright and how many seconds did this event last and about how long of a trail?" I asked if the sky lit up and she said, "Not really, but before it disappeared [below the horizon], it became brighter." I asked if she saw it break into several pieces and she said, "No." Larry's witness saw it fall into several pieces so this is why I think it would be more north from where my Sebring witness saw it. Best regards, Greg __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [2nd Sighting] Fireball in Florida Tuesday night
Hi Greg, I have one report, and another I found online. I sent you an email. Florida is my old stomping grounds! I'm from Jacksonville, and spent a lot of time in Gainesville, Lake City, Middleburg area, so if you need someone with a good familiarity with the area let me know... Regards, Eric On 3/31/2010 2:53 PM, Greg Hupe wrote: Hi Larry, The section of Route 17 she was on was about 4 or 5 miles south of Hwy 98. Route 17 does wind around a bit at the location of sighting, and so does Hwy 98. She said they were heading north at that time so at least their sighting, along with your friend's, should suggest material landed in the state somewhere between Gainesville and Sebring (a huge area with lots of lakes!). A few more sightings put on the map I provided should start to put the picture together (How about your witnesses, Eric?). Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: To: "Greg Hupe" Cc: ; "Meteorite-list" Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [2nd Sighting] Fireball in Florida Tuesday night Hi Greg: Thanks for this information. From what I can tell Route 17 does not always go true north, so is it possible that "north" is a little more toward the west? Maybe radar saw it. Thanks again. Larry Hello All, I interviewed someone today in Florida (in person) who witnessed last night's fireball in Florida. Here are the coordinates from where this person witnessed it near Sebring, FL: 27°23'48.91"N 81°24'4.84"W This lady and her husband were driving north on County Road 17 just south of Sebring. She confirmed, along with her husband on the phone, that it fell around 9:30 pm straight down (towards north), but slightly to the right (east). They saw the fireball moving and then "light up" before disappearing on the horizon. They did not see it fall into pieces like Larry's friend did up in Gainesville so It fell closer to Gainesville opposed to Sebring. Here is a link to an image I put together using Larry's witness report and mine to show fall directions from these two witnesses . I tried to load on a Google Earth satellite image but after re-installing everything on my computer last week, I can not make Google Earth work properly. I am trying Firefox instead of Internet Explorer, but neither seems to let me use the Push-Pin option while viewing in satellite view. No time to mess with it now, have to pack for a trip somewhere else, leaving tomorrow. http://www.lunarrock.com/floridafireball3-30-10/florida3-30-10.jpg I would check for radar images from Ocala, Orlando, Tampa and Lakeland. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: To: Cc: "Meteorite-list" Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:33 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] FIreball in Florida Tuesday night Hi Everyone: A friend of mine (Greg Beckner) in Gainsville, FL just sent me this. He was out with a group of scouts and saw the following (second paragraph): I took my Cub Scout pack to the model airplane field last night & showed them a few R/C aircraft. A sidebar to that is the field is several miles out of town and has a good view of the horizon and darker skies, so I also took the telescope. We saw Mercury about 5 deg from Venus last night & a few deep sky objects at the last part of Astronomical twilight & before moon came up. Around 9:30 local time, while packing up, I saw the most impressive fireball meteor almost directly to the south. It started like an Iridium flare, but just got brighter & brighter. It was close enough where you could see a flame structure and fragments breaking off. Will the next "Meteorite Men" episode be filmed here??? So far, nothing in paper yet. Is there something that keeps track of such events? I'm sure we weren't the only ones seeing it (*it scared the crap out of my kids!!!) Here's GPS cords of flying field - I was looking Almost Due South - maybe just a little to the East of due South. Time was perhaps between 9:20 & 9:40pm EDT. Path of the object was almost straight down & it was about 35 deg up... N 29° 31' 07" W 082° 33' 32" Larry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Viru
Re: [meteorite-list] [2nd Sighting] Fireball in Florida Tuesday night
Exciting! I'm here as a resource if you need anything at all. My schedule is flexible allowing me free time during business hours should you need someone to head somewhere and do something. Not sure what that might be--visit a local news or police station? Interview witnesses? I'll mass email everyone I know at work and town and see if anyone saw anything. > Hi Gracie, > > By what the two witnesses so far have reported, I would give it an > excellent > chance of having produced meteorites, but finding them is a whole > different > story unless one hit something and was found! > > Best regards, > Greg > > > Greg Hupe > The Hupe Collection > NaturesVault (eBay) > gmh...@htn.net > www.LunarRock.com > IMCA 3163 > > Click here for my current eBay auctions: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault > > - Original Message - > From: "gracie" > To: "Greg Hupe" > Cc: ; "Meteorite-list" > > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 5:17 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [2nd Sighting] Fireball in Florida Tuesday > night > > >> Greg and Larry, >> >> I'm actually in Gainesville, though I missed the sighting last night. No >> rains are expected soon . . Adam, do you think there might actually be >> stones on the ground? >> >> Larry, about your question regarding keeping track of fireballs, I'd >> recommend you or your friend create an report over at the American >> Meteor >> Society (http://www.amsmeteors.org/). >> >> I'll also be keeping an eye out here for local reports and ask everyone >> I >> know here if they saw anything. >> >> How exciting! >> Gracie >> >> >> >> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> I interviewed someone today in Florida (in person) who witnessed last >>> night's fireball in Florida. Here are the coordinates from where this >>> person >>> witnessed it near Sebring, FL: >>> 27°23'48.91"N >>> 81°24'4.84"W >>> >>> This lady and her husband were driving north on County Road 17 just >>> south >>> of >>> Sebring. She confirmed, along with her husband on the phone, that it >>> fell >>> around 9:30 pm straight down (towards north), but slightly to the right >>> (east). They saw the fireball moving and then "light up" before >>> disappearing >>> on the horizon. They did not see it fall into pieces like Larry's >>> friend >>> did >>> up in Gainesville so It fell closer to Gainesville opposed to Sebring. >>> >>> Here is a link to an image I put together using Larry's witness report >>> and >>> mine to show fall directions from these two witnesses . I tried to load >>> on >>> a >>> Google Earth satellite image but after re-installing everything on my >>> computer last week, I can not make Google Earth work properly. I am >>> trying >>> Firefox instead of Internet Explorer, but neither seems to let me use >>> the >>> Push-Pin option while viewing in satellite view. No time to mess with >>> it >>> now, have to pack for a trip somewhere else, leaving tomorrow. >>> http://www.lunarrock.com/floridafireball3-30-10/florida3-30-10.jpg >>> >>> I would check for radar images from Ocala, Orlando, Tampa and Lakeland. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Greg >>> >>> >>> Greg Hupe >>> The Hupe Collection >>> NaturesVault (eBay) >>> gmh...@htn.net >>> www.LunarRock.com >>> IMCA 3163 >>> >>> Click here for my current eBay auctions: >>> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: >>> To: >>> Cc: "Meteorite-list" >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:33 AM >>> Subject: [meteorite-list] FIreball in Florida Tuesday night >>> >>> >>> Hi Everyone: >>> >>> A friend of mine (Greg Beckner) in Gainsville, FL just sent me this. He >>> was out with a group of scouts and saw the following (second >>> paragraph): >>> >>> I took my Cub Scout pack to the model airplane field last night & >>> showed >>> them a few R/C aircraft. A sidebar to that is the field is several >>> miles >>> out of town and has a good view of the horizon and darker skies, so I >>> also >>> took the telescope. We saw Mercury about 5 deg from Venus last night & >>> a >>> few deep sky objects at the last part of Astronomical twilight & before >>> moon came up. >>> >>> Around 9:30 local time, while packing up, I saw the most impressive >>> fireball meteor almost directly to the south. It started like an >>> Iridium >>> flare, but just got brighter & brighter. It was close >>> enough where you could see a flame structure and fragments breaking >>> off. >>> Will the next "Meteorite Men" episode be filmed here??? So far, >>> nothing >>> in paper yet. Is there something that keeps track of such events? I'm >>> sure we weren't the only ones seeing it (*it scared the crap out of my >>> kids!!!) >>> >>> >>> Here's GPS cords of flying field - I was looking Almost Due South - >>> maybe >>> just a >>> little to the East of due South. Time was perhaps between 9:20 & >>> 9:40pm >>> EDT. Path of the object was almost straight down & it was about 35 deg
Re: [meteorite-list] [2nd Sighting] Fireball in Florida Tuesday night
>>By what the two witnesses so far have reported, I would give it an > excellent > chance of having produced meteorites, but finding them is a whole > different > story unless one hit something and was found!<< I guess there were no sonics booms reported? geozay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Central Florida bolide of 30 March 2010
Hi All, Following up, as expected there is nothing notable in the real-time radar data from Melbourne, Jacksonville or Tampa. But perhaps something will show up in the multi-elevation data tomorrow... --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia
Hi Eric, The photo you reference appears to be Bunburra Rockhole (indeed a eucrite) recovered by Pavel Spurny et. al from the Desert Fireball Network in Australia. It probable that this photo was provided to the media by Dr. Spurny last year, and is now simply a "meteorite file photo" for this particular Czech news organization. http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2009/09/australia-meteormeteorite-news-bunburra.html Regards, Eric Christensen --- On Wed, 3/31/10, meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com wrote: > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:18:23 -0700 > From: Meteorites USA > Subject: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia > To: Meteorite-list > Message-ID: <4bb3ae0f.60...@meteoritesusa.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Take a look at the photos in the article, does this appear > to be an > achondrite/eucrite maybe? > > - > On the eastern Slovakia fell meteorite, scientists found > fragments of > http://www.rozhlas.cz/zpravy/vesmir/_zprava/714433 > Eastern Slovakia fell to an hour before midnight on 28th > February tens > of kilograms of rock from space. These were fragments of a > meteorite > that burned up in atmosphere, lit up the sky in a radius of > several > hundred kilometers and frightening residents. > > Some fragments of the meteorite, astronomers have found, > researched and > today it is first shown to the public. How Radio?urn?l said > Marek > Husa??k of the Astronomical Institute of the Slovak Academy > of Sciences, > the largest piece weighs over two kilograms. > Audio > Interview with Mark Husa??k from the Astronomical Institute > of the > Slovak Academy of Sciences in the afternoon Radio?urn?l > DOWNLOAD (download) > > "It has a dark gray color is relatively heavy compared to > other stones, > which are normally found on Earth," described Husa??k rare > find. > > Scientists have found fragments of municipalities of > Klatovy Vy?n? west > of Kosice. Whence meteorid arrived, trying to find Slovak > astronomers, > together with experts from the Ondrejov Observatory of the > Academy of > Sciences. > > "Identify heliocentric orbit is not easy, it is necessary > to determine > the position of being the largest pieces of which we have > actually only > one," said Husa??k. > > Impacts of meteorites on Earth are referred to him a > frequent > phenomenon, but it is not easy to record. "Specifically, > the Slovak has > been observed, there are five falls. Recent findings from > the 1994 > Rumanov? the village, "he said. > > Part of the material universe is now going to analyze the > composition, > more debris then end up in museum in the Slovak Republic, > the Czech > Republic and Hungary. It then comes under Husa??k important > video that > helped to identify the impact site. > - > > Regards, > Eric Wichman > Meteorites USA > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Central Florida bolide of 30 March 2010
Just as a side note. Like I said in my last email. I'm from that area. If it landed SE of Gainesville you're looking at a possible fall in Ocala area, that HUGE area is mostly National forest! Not only that it's super thick with palmetto and pine forests, lakes, and swamps. Good luck out there! Watch for moccasins and cottonmouth, oh yeah and gators too. You'll also have to consider Camp Blanding Army base and Cecil Field, Jennings State park if it fell further north. The area out toward Lake Butler and Baldwin are country and farming. There's lot of dairy farms and soy bean/corn farmers out that way. There is big paper mill on 301 and 218. They own a large swath of land in the area. This is all planted pine in neat little rows. I know during hunting season they used to open the area to deer hunters. Not sure if they still do that, but it's worth a try to contact them if it turns out it fell there. Let's hope! Hope it didn't land in the drink with all those tiny lakes between Keystone Heights and Ocala. Regards, Eric On 3/31/2010 3:12 PM, Matson, Robert D. wrote: Hi Greg, I agree with your interpretation -- since fragmentation was witnessed in Gainesville, and not in Sebring, all things being equal I would place the fall closer to Gainesville. (An exception might be if the Gainesville observer could see closer to the geometric horizon than could the Sebring driver.) As for direction, County Rd. 17 (southeast of Sebring) occasionally heads to the NW rather than due north, and since the due north direction would not intersect the line-of-sight of the Gainesville observer, I'm inclined to believe she was on a portion of the road that was heading NW or NNW at the time of the fall. I'm guessing the fall would be somewhere in the vicinity of Ocala. I'll check the real-time Doppler radar data to see if anything is there. (I'm expecting nothing will show up.) The higher-quality, multi-elevation-angle Doppler data will be available starting tomorrow, and I can check it then. --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Greg Hupe Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:46 PM To: geo...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [2nd Sighting] Fireball in Florida Tuesdaynight Hey GeoZay, "About how bright and how many seconds did this event last and about how long of a trail?" I asked if the sky lit up and she said, "Not really, but before it disappeared [below the horizon], it became brighter." I asked if she saw it break into several pieces and she said, "No." Larry's witness saw it fall into several pieces so this is why I think it would be more north from where my Sebring witness saw it. Best regards, Greg __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees?
Hello Linton, Not at all - but it wasn't really an issue. We have some friends up in Canada and the thought was to have the stones sent to them, apply for a permit, and wait it out. But note that they're listed on ebay Canada, not visible to any other ebay sites. That makes it seem to me as though they might not have permits...but if you're interested, it seems to me that asking them directly could clear things right up. Regards, Jason On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Linton Rohr wrote: > Well Jason, I certainly could be wrong. > I just hate to see anybody here get burned. > My eyes can't tell for sure that those are fresh, fusion-crusted stones, > as opposed to little black earth rocks, due to the photo quality. > They do look somewhat probable though, I'll admit. > The larger problem to me, is the export permit. > Was there any mention of that when you spoke? > Linton > > - Original Message - From: "Jason Utas" > To: "Meteorite-list" > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:40 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? > > > Melanie, Linton, > The photos depict what are clearly fresh stony meteorites, regardless > of their quality (viz., the photos'). > This seller is a local and has been selling Buzzard Coulee stones > since shortly after the fall. > I've spoken with them on a few occasions, and, while I haven't > actually purchased any stones, they do seem to be on the level. > Regards, > Jason > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Linton Rohr > wrote: >> >> Melanie, >> No, I do not know the seller. >> The poor quality photos are just a nuisance. >> The text indicates to me that the seller does not know meteorites. >> Sounds like he took a few notes from someone elses legitimate ad. >> No mention of export permits is a giant red flag, though. >> You could always ask him/her about that. I almost did. >> The price/gram is sure a lot lower though, eh? >> Almost too good to be true, isn't it... >> And you know what they say about that! >> Linton >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Melanie Matthews" >> >> To: "Meteorite List" >> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:59 PM >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? >> >> >>> >>> >>> http://shop.ebay.ca/306krista/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340 >>> >>> Worldwide shipping and no mention of an export permit for any of them? >>> Anyone here know this person and if he/she is for real? >>> >>> --- >>> Melanie >>> IMCA: 2975 >>> eBay: metmel2775 >>> Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 >>> >>> Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know >>> what you're gonna get! >>> >>> >>> >>> __ >>> Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! >>> >>> http://www.flickr.com/gift/ >>> >>> __ >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Central Florida bolide of 30 March 2010
Hi Rob and List, Here is another witness account below from Eric Wichman. I input the data into another map, including a RED line which may represent a corrected line of sight for the Sebring witness. If the Gainesville witness was slightly off direction, or was viewing to the SE and not due south, that would bring the Gainesville line more to the SE, making all lines closer to around "Ocala" which Rob suggests, not to mention one of my first guesses for radar images from my first email with first map, "I would check for radar images from Ocala, Orlando, Tampa and Lakeland." :-) My updated witness map, to the best of some quick guessing: http://www.lunarrock.com/floridafireball3-30-10/florida3-30-10a.jpg New Port Richey, FL 28°14'58.87"N 82°41'55.97"W (Corner's of "Main St. & Rowen Rd.) Hope this helps! Now I wish I was not leaving tomorrow. :-/ If I hear of any finds by tomorrow morning, I will be canceling tomorrow's flight! If anyone hears of anything found, please contact me by email or cell phone at gmh...@htn.net or 206-898-0146 cell (I may fly back and end my other hunting trips early). Good Luck! Greg New Port Richey, FL witness: Date: Fireball Sighting. March 30, 2010 Time Of Sighting: 21:20 Report: It was north of the full moon but higher. When I first looked I thought of a single strand of fireworks. No sound and it extinguished in less than 5 seconds. Name: Al Location: Rowan Rd& Main St, New Port Richey,FL Coordinates: Constellations: Direction Of Travel: North Line Of Sight: NE Landmark: Gas station Altitude: 2000 feet (rough guess) Angle of Decent In Degrees: 30 degrees Color of Fireball: White and red Brightness: Bright like fireworks Duration: less than 5 seconds Extinguish: Yes Retardation Point Azimuth: North Sonic Boom: No Crackling Static Sound: No Whizzing or Whooshing Sound: No Impact: No Have A Meteorite: No Email: Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: "Matson, Robert D." To: "Greg Hupe" ; Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 6:12 PM Subject: Central Florida bolide of 30 March 2010 Hi Greg, I agree with your interpretation -- since fragmentation was witnessed in Gainesville, and not in Sebring, all things being equal I would place the fall closer to Gainesville. (An exception might be if the Gainesville observer could see closer to the geometric horizon than could the Sebring driver.) As for direction, County Rd. 17 (southeast of Sebring) occasionally heads to the NW rather than due north, and since the due north direction would not intersect the line-of-sight of the Gainesville observer, I'm inclined to believe she was on a portion of the road that was heading NW or NNW at the time of the fall. I'm guessing the fall would be somewhere in the vicinity of Ocala. I'll check the real-time Doppler radar data to see if anything is there. (I'm expecting nothing will show up.) The higher-quality, multi-elevation-angle Doppler data will be available starting tomorrow, and I can check it then. --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Greg Hupe Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:46 PM To: geo...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [2nd Sighting] Fireball in Florida Tuesdaynight Hey GeoZay, "About how bright and how many seconds did this event last and about how long of a trail?" I asked if the sky lit up and she said, "Not really, but before it disappeared [below the horizon], it became brighter." I asked if she saw it break into several pieces and she said, "No." Larry's witness saw it fall into several pieces so this is why I think it would be more north from where my Sebring witness saw it. Best regards, Greg No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2782 - Release Date: 03/31/10 14:32:00 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees?
Jason, Oh, I see. It may have been listed in Canada, but it's certainly visible here. Is that due to the "worldwide" shipping option? Regardless, I've inquired into the export permits, but have yet to receive a response. Linton - Original Message - From: "Jason Utas" To: "Meteorite-list" ; "Linton Rohr" Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? Hello Linton, Not at all - but it wasn't really an issue. We have some friends up in Canada and the thought was to have the stones sent to them, apply for a permit, and wait it out. But note that they're listed on ebay Canada, not visible to any other ebay sites. That makes it seem to me as though they might not have permits...but if you're interested, it seems to me that asking them directly could clear things right up. Regards, Jason On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Linton Rohr wrote: Well Jason, I certainly could be wrong. I just hate to see anybody here get burned. My eyes can't tell for sure that those are fresh, fusion-crusted stones, as opposed to little black earth rocks, due to the photo quality. They do look somewhat probable though, I'll admit. The larger problem to me, is the export permit. Was there any mention of that when you spoke? Linton - Original Message - From: "Jason Utas" To: "Meteorite-list" Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? Melanie, Linton, The photos depict what are clearly fresh stony meteorites, regardless of their quality (viz., the photos'). This seller is a local and has been selling Buzzard Coulee stones since shortly after the fall. I've spoken with them on a few occasions, and, while I haven't actually purchased any stones, they do seem to be on the level. Regards, Jason On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Linton Rohr wrote: Melanie, No, I do not know the seller. The poor quality photos are just a nuisance. The text indicates to me that the seller does not know meteorites. Sounds like he took a few notes from someone elses legitimate ad. No mention of export permits is a giant red flag, though. You could always ask him/her about that. I almost did. The price/gram is sure a lot lower though, eh? Almost too good to be true, isn't it... And you know what they say about that! Linton - Original Message - From: "Melanie Matthews" To: "Meteorite List" Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:59 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? http://shop.ebay.ca/306krista/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340 Worldwide shipping and no mention of an export permit for any of them? Anyone here know this person and if he/she is for real? --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! __ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [2nd Sighting] Fireball in Florida Tuesday night
Greg and Larry, I'm actually in Gainesville, though I missed the sighting last night. No rains are expected soon . . Adam, do you think there might actually be stones on the ground? Larry, about your question regarding keeping track of fireballs, I'd recommend you or your friend create an report over at the American Meteor Society (http://www.amsmeteors.org/). I'll also be keeping an eye out here for local reports and ask everyone I know here if they saw anything. How exciting! Gracie > Hello All, > > I interviewed someone today in Florida (in person) who witnessed last > night's fireball in Florida. Here are the coordinates from where this > person > witnessed it near Sebring, FL: > 27°23'48.91"N > 81°24'4.84"W > > This lady and her husband were driving north on County Road 17 just south > of > Sebring. She confirmed, along with her husband on the phone, that it fell > around 9:30 pm straight down (towards north), but slightly to the right > (east). They saw the fireball moving and then "light up" before > disappearing > on the horizon. They did not see it fall into pieces like Larry's friend > did > up in Gainesville so It fell closer to Gainesville opposed to Sebring. > > Here is a link to an image I put together using Larry's witness report and > mine to show fall directions from these two witnesses . I tried to load on > a > Google Earth satellite image but after re-installing everything on my > computer last week, I can not make Google Earth work properly. I am trying > Firefox instead of Internet Explorer, but neither seems to let me use the > Push-Pin option while viewing in satellite view. No time to mess with it > now, have to pack for a trip somewhere else, leaving tomorrow. > http://www.lunarrock.com/floridafireball3-30-10/florida3-30-10.jpg > > I would check for radar images from Ocala, Orlando, Tampa and Lakeland. > > Best regards, > Greg > > > Greg Hupe > The Hupe Collection > NaturesVault (eBay) > gmh...@htn.net > www.LunarRock.com > IMCA 3163 > > Click here for my current eBay auctions: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault > > - Original Message - > From: > To: > Cc: "Meteorite-list" > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:33 AM > Subject: [meteorite-list] FIreball in Florida Tuesday night > > > Hi Everyone: > > A friend of mine (Greg Beckner) in Gainsville, FL just sent me this. He > was out with a group of scouts and saw the following (second paragraph): > > I took my Cub Scout pack to the model airplane field last night & showed > them a few R/C aircraft. A sidebar to that is the field is several miles > out of town and has a good view of the horizon and darker skies, so I also > took the telescope. We saw Mercury about 5 deg from Venus last night & a > few deep sky objects at the last part of Astronomical twilight & before > moon came up. > > Around 9:30 local time, while packing up, I saw the most impressive > fireball meteor almost directly to the south. It started like an Iridium > flare, but just got brighter & brighter. It was close > enough where you could see a flame structure and fragments breaking off. > Will the next "Meteorite Men" episode be filmed here??? So far, nothing > in paper yet. Is there something that keeps track of such events? I'm > sure we weren't the only ones seeing it (*it scared the crap out of my > kids!!!) > > > Here's GPS cords of flying field - I was looking Almost Due South - maybe > just a > little to the East of due South. Time was perhaps between 9:20 & 9:40pm > EDT. Path of the object was almost straight down & it was about 35 deg > up... > > N 29° 31' 07" > W 082° 33' 32" > > Larry > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2780 - Release Date: 03/30/10 > 14:32:00 > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Central Florida bolide of 30 March 2010
Hi All, The high-quality real-time Doppler data is up now; I've finished scanning the Melbourne and Jacksonville data. I have one (very small) candidate return so far. Will be checking the Tampa data next. If I get concurrence between 2 radars, then that might be enough of an enticement for someone to check for witnesses close to this location. --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NASA Mars Spacecraft Snaps Photos Chosen by Public (MRO)
UPDATED RELEASE (WITH UPDATED URL INFORMATION) : The new Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter/HiRISE images are available via the NASA Web site at: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/MRO/multimedia/images20100331.html Because of a power outage at the University of Arizona, their Web links are not available right now. Guy Webster 818-354-6278 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. guy.webs...@jpl.nasa.gov Dwayne Brown 202-358-1726 NASA Headquarters, Washington dwayne.c.br...@nasa.gov Daniel Stolte 520-626-4402 University of Arizona, Tucson sto...@email.arizona.edu News release: 2010-105 March 31, 2010 NASA Mars Spacecraft Snaps Photos Chosen by Public The full version of this story with accompanying images is at: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2010-105&cid=release_2010-105 PASADENA, Calif. -- The most powerful camera aboard a NASA spacecraft orbiting Mars has returned the first pictures of locations on the Red Planet suggested by the public. The High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment, or HiRISE camera, aboard NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is nicknamed, "the people's camera." Through a program called HiWish that began in January, scientists have received approximately 1,000 suggestions. The first eight images of areas the public selected are available online at: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/MRO/multimedia/images20100331.html . "NASA's Mars program is a prime example of what we call participatory exploration," NASA Administrator Charlie Bolden said. "To allow the public to aim a camera at a specific site on a distant world is an invaluable teaching tool that can help educate and inspire our youth to pursue careers in science, technology, engineering and math." Since 2006, HiRISE has obtained approximately 13,000 observations covering dozens of square miles, including areas from a student-suggestion program called NASA Quest. However, only about 1 percent of the Martian surface has been photographed. NASA has provided other opportunities for the public to see and explore Mars. A camera on NASA's Mars Global Surveyor imaged 1,086 targets suggested through a public-request program from 2003 until 2006. Launched on Nov. 7, 1996, the probe pioneered the use of aerobraking at Mars and mapped the surface. The original one-year mission was extended four times until November 2006. "Some people get into model railroading or Civil War re-enactments. My thing is exploring Mars," said James Secosky, a retired teacher in Manchester, N.Y., who suggested an area for HiRISE imaging after he examined online images from other Mars-orbiting cameras. Another camera aboard NASA's Mars Odyssey orbiter has taken nearly 500 images after receiving approximately 1,400 suggestions through a public-request program initiated in 2009. Odyssey has been orbiting Mars since 2001. It serves as a communications relay for Mars rovers and makes its own observations and discoveries. HiRISE is one of six instruments on the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. Launched in August 2005, the orbiter reached Mars the following year to begin a two-year primary science mission. The spacecraft has found that Mars has had diverse wet environments at many locations for differing durations in the planet's history, and Martian climate-change cycles persist into the present era. The mission is in an extended science phase. The spacecraft will continue to take several thousand images a year. The mission has returned more data about Mars than all other spacecraft to the Red Planet combined. "What we hope is that people become more interested in science and appreciate this opportunity to explore another world," said Alfred McEwen, principal investigator for the camera at the University of Arizona in Tucson. "We appreciate fresh thinking outside the box and look for things we may not have chosen otherwise. It's good to have a lot of eyes on Mars." The University of Arizona Lunar and Planetary Laboratory operates the HiRISE camera, which was built by Ball Aerospace & Technologies Corp., in Boulder, Colo. NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., manages MRO for NASA's Science Mission Directorate in Washington. Lockheed Martin Space Systems in Denver built the spacecraft. For more information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter mission, visit http://www.nasa.gov/mro . - end - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Spirit Mars Rover May Have Begun Months-Long Hibernation
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2010-106 Spirit May Have Begun Months-Long Hibernation Jet Propulsion Laboratory March 31, 2010 MARS EXPLORATION ROVER MISSION STATUS REPORT PASADENA, Calif. -- NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Spirit skipped a planned communication session on March 30 and, as anticipated from recent power-supply projections, has probably entered a low-power hibernation mode. In this mode, the rover's clock keeps running, but communications and other activities are suspended in order to put all available energy into heating and battery recharging. When the battery charge is adequate, the rover attempts to wake up and communicate on a schedule it knows. "We may not hear from Spirit again for weeks or months, but we will be listening at every opportunity, and our expectation is that Spirit will resume communications when the batteries are sufficiently charged," said John Callas of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., who is project manager for Spirit and its twin rover, Opportunity. Spirit's power supply is low because daily sunshine for dusty solar panels is declining with the approach of the winter solstice, in mid-May, in Mars' southern hemisphere. In the three previous Martian winters that Spirit has survived since landing in January 2004, the rover was tilted northward to put its solar panels at a favorable angle toward the sun. That preparation was not possible this winter because of impaired mobility. Spirit's wheels are dug into soft sand, and the rover lost the use of a second wheel four months ago. It had previously lost use of one of its six wheels four years ago. Spirit's original mission was planned to last for three months. The rover has worked extended missions since April 2004. Opportunity is currently on a long-term trek toward a large crater named Endeavour. Spirit had been communicating on a once-per-week schedule in recent weeks. During the designated time for the rover to communicate with NASA's Mars Odyssey orbiter passing overhead on March 30, Odyssey heard nothing from the rover. "We are checking other less-likely possibilities for the missed communication, but this probably means that Spirit tripped a low-power fault sometime between the last downlink on March 22 and yesterday," Callas said. "The recent downlinks had indicated that the battery state of charge was decreasing, getting close to the level that would put Spirit into this hibernation." In coming weeks, Spirit's core electronics will become colder than any temperature they have ever experienced on Mars. Thermal projections indicate the temperature probably will not drop lower than the electronics were designed and tested to tolerate, but the age of the rover adds to the uncertainty of survival. "The temperature limit was for a new rover. We now have an older rover with thousands of thermal cycles on Mars, so the colder temperatures will be a further stress," Callas said. JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, manages the Mars Exploration Rover Project for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington. For more information about the Mars rovers, visit http://www.nasa.gov/rovers . Guy Webster 818-354-6278 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. guy.webs...@jpl.nasa.gov 2010-106 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - New Stuff on our Site - Gibeon and Muonionalusta Etched Slices and End Cuts- also an update on Buzzard Coulee
Hello to everyone! We have just added some amazing etched Gibeon, with end cuts and slices available; as well as some smaller Muonionalusta part slices. Here is the link to our "What's New" page where you can see them. The Gibeon end cuts would go great in anyones collection; so if you are looking for one, here it is! http://kdmeteorites.com/whatsnew.html Also, for all of you who had made an offer on the Buzzard Coulee's that were in our room at Tucson, I have just heard from the owner that the export permits were approved, so you will be hearing from him soon! We really appreciate your looking, and we hope everyone is doing well. Cheers Dana -- KD Meteorites kdmeteorites.com admiremeteorites.com Keith and Dana Jenkerson 4596 N. Vickie Lane Kingman, AZ., 86409 928-399-0140 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Buzzard Coulee/export permits
Well, the seller says... "I was told that if they are rocks for study wasn/t nessary reply I/m not sure I have no permits" I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that is incorrect. Anybody know for sure? Linton - Original Message - From: "Linton Rohr" To: "Jason Utas" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? Jason, Oh, I see. It may have been listed in Canada, but it's certainly visible here. Is that due to the "worldwide" shipping option? Regardless, I've inquired into the export permits, but have yet to receive a response. Linton - Original Message - From: "Jason Utas" To: "Meteorite-list" ; "Linton Rohr" Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? Hello Linton, Not at all - but it wasn't really an issue. We have some friends up in Canada and the thought was to have the stones sent to them, apply for a permit, and wait it out. But note that they're listed on ebay Canada, not visible to any other ebay sites. That makes it seem to me as though they might not have permits...but if you're interested, it seems to me that asking them directly could clear things right up. Regards, Jason On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Linton Rohr wrote: Well Jason, I certainly could be wrong. I just hate to see anybody here get burned. My eyes can't tell for sure that those are fresh, fusion-crusted stones, as opposed to little black earth rocks, due to the photo quality. They do look somewhat probable though, I'll admit. The larger problem to me, is the export permit. Was there any mention of that when you spoke? Linton - Original Message - From: "Jason Utas" To: "Meteorite-list" Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? Melanie, Linton, The photos depict what are clearly fresh stony meteorites, regardless of their quality (viz., the photos'). This seller is a local and has been selling Buzzard Coulee stones since shortly after the fall. I've spoken with them on a few occasions, and, while I haven't actually purchased any stones, they do seem to be on the level. Regards, Jason On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Linton Rohr wrote: Melanie, No, I do not know the seller. The poor quality photos are just a nuisance. The text indicates to me that the seller does not know meteorites. Sounds like he took a few notes from someone elses legitimate ad. No mention of export permits is a giant red flag, though. You could always ask him/her about that. I almost did. The price/gram is sure a lot lower though, eh? Almost too good to be true, isn't it... And you know what they say about that! Linton - Original Message - From: "Melanie Matthews" To: "Meteorite List" Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:59 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? http://shop.ebay.ca/306krista/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340 Worldwide shipping and no mention of an export permit for any of them? Anyone here know this person and if he/she is for real? --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! __ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Buzzard Coulee/export permits
Very incorrect. All Buzzard Coulee as well as any other Canadian meteorite must be sent with a permit. It takes some time but very little cost to get the permit. The officials I dealt with were very friendly and helpful making the experience pleasant if not lengthy. The seller can probably get away with shipping these across the boarder but the stones are more valuable if they have proper export documentation. If the seller is caught then they risk fines and losing the stones. Cheers! tett . Linton Rohr wrote: Well, the seller says... "I was told that if they are rocks for study wasn/t nessary reply I/m not sure I have no permits" I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that is incorrect. Anybody know for sure? Linton - Original Message - From: "Linton Rohr" To: "Jason Utas" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? Jason, Oh, I see. It may have been listed in Canada, but it's certainly visible here. Is that due to the "worldwide" shipping option? Regardless, I've inquired into the export permits, but have yet to receive a response. Linton - Original Message - From: "Jason Utas" To: "Meteorite-list" ; "Linton Rohr" Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? Hello Linton, Not at all - but it wasn't really an issue. We have some friends up in Canada and the thought was to have the stones sent to them, apply for a permit, and wait it out. But note that they're listed on ebay Canada, not visible to any other ebay sites. That makes it seem to me as though they might not have permits...but if you're interested, it seems to me that asking them directly could clear things right up. Regards, Jason On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Linton Rohr wrote: Well Jason, I certainly could be wrong. I just hate to see anybody here get burned. My eyes can't tell for sure that those are fresh, fusion-crusted stones, as opposed to little black earth rocks, due to the photo quality. They do look somewhat probable though, I'll admit. The larger problem to me, is the export permit. Was there any mention of that when you spoke? Linton - Original Message - From: "Jason Utas" To: "Meteorite-list" Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? Melanie, Linton, The photos depict what are clearly fresh stony meteorites, regardless of their quality (viz., the photos'). This seller is a local and has been selling Buzzard Coulee stones since shortly after the fall. I've spoken with them on a few occasions, and, while I haven't actually purchased any stones, they do seem to be on the level. Regards, Jason On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Linton Rohr wrote: Melanie, No, I do not know the seller. The poor quality photos are just a nuisance. The text indicates to me that the seller does not know meteorites. Sounds like he took a few notes from someone elses legitimate ad. No mention of export permits is a giant red flag, though. You could always ask him/her about that. I almost did. The price/gram is sure a lot lower though, eh? Almost too good to be true, isn't it... And you know what they say about that! Linton - Original Message - From: "Melanie Matthews" To: "Meteorite List" Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:59 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? http://shop.ebay.ca/306krista/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340 Worldwide shipping and no mention of an export permit for any of them? Anyone here know this person and if he/she is for real? --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! __ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees?
Not to give anyone a bad name or scare those who are already bidding on some of them, but it seems kinda strange how there is no mention of export permits.. I PMed them and according to them she's selling them "for research" and as such they can get away with selling BCs without a permit. It seems they are legit. --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! - Original Message From: Linton Rohr To: Jason Utas Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 10:57:33 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? Well Jason, I certainly could be wrong. I just hate to see anybody here get burned. My eyes can't tell for sure that those are fresh, fusion-crusted stones, as opposed to little black earth rocks, due to the photo quality. They do look somewhat probable though, I'll admit. The larger problem to me, is the export permit. Was there any mention of that when you spoke? Linton - Original Message - From: "Jason Utas" To: "Meteorite-list" Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? Melanie, Linton, The photos depict what are clearly fresh stony meteorites, regardless of their quality (viz., the photos'). This seller is a local and has been selling Buzzard Coulee stones since shortly after the fall. I've spoken with them on a few occasions, and, while I haven't actually purchased any stones, they do seem to be on the level. Regards, Jason On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Linton Rohr wrote: > Melanie, > No, I do not know the seller. > The poor quality photos are just a nuisance. > The text indicates to me that the seller does not know meteorites. > Sounds like he took a few notes from someone elses legitimate ad. > No mention of export permits is a giant red flag, though. > You could always ask him/her about that. I almost did. > The price/gram is sure a lot lower though, eh? > Almost too good to be true, isn't it... > And you know what they say about that! > Linton > > > - Original Message - From: "Melanie Matthews" > > To: "Meteorite List" > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:59 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? > > >> >> http://shop.ebay.ca/306krista/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340 >> >> Worldwide shipping and no mention of an export permit for any of them? >> Anyone here know this person and if he/she is for real? >> >> --- >> Melanie >> IMCA: 2975 >> eBay: metmel2775 >> Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 >> >> Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know >> what you're gonna get! >> >> >> >> __ >> Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! >> >> http://www.flickr.com/gift/ >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA Meteorites
Dear list Members, Lets talk a little bet about NWA sceintifacally and in marketing. what did NWA stones offer to sceince? Do you appreciate NWA, it's obly 3 letters, but has done great for sceince, collectors and dealers, don't you have anything to say to NWA ? can we have a special day for NWA? can we celibrate it? and call it NWA DAY ? any word as a gift to those great meteorites were found in NWA? My best Aziz (saffron guy) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees?
Canadian meteorites need export permits, period. Including temporary export for research. Here is the Canadian Heritage site for all the info regarding this. http://www.pch.gc.ca/eng/1268673230268/1268674596897 Roman Jirasek www.meteoritelabels.com - Original Message - From: "Melanie Matthews" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? Not to give anyone a bad name or scare those who are already bidding on some of them, but it seems kinda strange how there is no mention of export permits.. I PMed them and according to them she's selling them "for research" and as such they can get away with selling BCs without a permit. It seems they are legit. --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! - Original Message From: Linton Rohr To: Jason Utas Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 10:57:33 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? Well Jason, I certainly could be wrong. I just hate to see anybody here get burned. My eyes can't tell for sure that those are fresh, fusion-crusted stones, as opposed to little black earth rocks, due to the photo quality. They do look somewhat probable though, I'll admit. The larger problem to me, is the export permit. Was there any mention of that when you spoke? Linton - Original Message - From: "Jason Utas" To: "Meteorite-list" Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? Melanie, Linton, The photos depict what are clearly fresh stony meteorites, regardless of their quality (viz., the photos'). This seller is a local and has been selling Buzzard Coulee stones since shortly after the fall. I've spoken with them on a few occasions, and, while I haven't actually purchased any stones, they do seem to be on the level. Regards, Jason On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Linton Rohr wrote: Melanie, No, I do not know the seller. The poor quality photos are just a nuisance. The text indicates to me that the seller does not know meteorites. Sounds like he took a few notes from someone elses legitimate ad. No mention of export permits is a giant red flag, though. You could always ask him/her about that. I almost did. The price/gram is sure a lot lower though, eh? Almost too good to be true, isn't it... And you know what they say about that! Linton - Original Message - From: "Melanie Matthews" To: "Meteorite List" Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:59 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? http://shop.ebay.ca/306krista/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340 Worldwide shipping and no mention of an export permit for any of them? Anyone here know this person and if he/she is for real? --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! __ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/ma
Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees?
Melanie, You must have missed Tett's reply, under a slightly modified subject line... After sharing this info with the seller, she's asking me where to get the permits. Linton __ Very incorrect. All Buzzard Coulee as well as any other Canadian meteorite must be sent with a permit. It takes some time but very little cost to get the permit. The officials I dealt with were very friendly and helpful making the experience pleasant if not lengthy. The seller can probably get away with shipping these across the boarder but the stones are more valuable if they have proper export documentation. If the seller is caught then they risk fines and losing the stones. Cheers! tett . Linton Rohr wrote: Well, the seller says... "I was told that if they are rocks for study wasn/t nessary reply I/m not sure I have no permits" I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that is incorrect. Anybody know for sure? - Original Message - From: "Melanie Matthews" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? Not to give anyone a bad name or scare those who are already bidding on some of them, but it seems kinda strange how there is no mention of export permits.. I PMed them and according to them she's selling them "for research" and as such they can get away with selling BCs without a permit. It seems they are legit. --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] (Meteorite-list) NWA Meteorites
>>any word as a gift to those great meteorites were found in NWA? << An NWA meteorite was my first meteorite. If it weren't for this diverse group, I'd probably never been able to own one. GeoZay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA Meteorites
NWA ROCKS. -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Abdelaziz Alhyane wrote: > Dear list Members, > > Lets talk a little bet about NWA sceintifacally and in marketing. what did > NWA stones offer to sceince? Do you appreciate NWA, it's obly 3 letters, but > has done great for sceince, collectors and dealers, don't you have anything > to say to NWA ? can we have a special day for NWA? can we celibrate it? and > call it NWA DAY ? any word as a gift to those great meteorites were found in > NWA? > > > > My best > Aziz (saffron guy) > > > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Central Florida bolide of 30 March 2010
It's a longshot, but I'll take some time tomorrow to compile a list of local police departments in that area and ring them up. See if they've had any reports of damage to property due to falling stones or if they have further reported sightings. Just letting the list know in case someone had similar plans. No need to duplicate efforts! Gracie > Hi All, > > The high-quality real-time Doppler data is up now; I've finished > scanning > the Melbourne and Jacksonville data. I have one (very small) candidate > return so far. Will be checking the Tampa data next. If I get > concurrence > between 2 radars, then that might be enough of an enticement for someone > to check for witnesses close to this location. --Rob > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA Meteorites
Hi listers, I got reolies, one the guys suggested April 1st as a NWA DAY! i'm wondring where is the IMCA? or even what is IMCA? Hi IMCA can you talk ? I don't think i can think those who replied me? but sure, the NWAs they have will do it! because we are not talking about persons here, we do about NWA METEORITES Best Aziz, ( Saffron Guy) --- On Wed, 3/31/10, Abdelaziz Alhyane wrote: > From: Abdelaziz Alhyane > Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA Meteorites > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 6:59 PM > Dear list Members, > > Lets talk a little bet about NWA sceintifacally and in > marketing. what did NWA stones offer to sceince? Do you > appreciate NWA, it's obly 3 letters, but has done great for > sceince, collectors and dealers, don't you have anything to > say to NWA ? can we have a special day for NWA? can we > celibrate it? and call it NWA DAY ? any word as a gift to > those great meteorites were found in NWA? > > > > My best > Aziz (saffron guy) > > > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA Meteorites
Too bad you didn't think of this last year as in 2009 LOL - it was ten years ago when the first meteorites of the North West Africa designation series were found. ;) I LOVE my NWAs ,, many of them I wouldn't trade for anything! :D My first stony mets are NWAs. --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! - Original Message From: Abdelaziz Alhyane To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 6:59:30 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA Meteorites Dear list Members, Lets talk a little bet about NWA sceintifacally and in marketing. what did NWA stones offer to sceince? Do you appreciate NWA, it's obly 3 letters, but has done great for sceince, collectors and dealers, don't you have anything to say to NWA ? can we have a special day for NWA? can we celibrate it? and call it NWA DAY ? any word as a gift to those great meteorites were found in NWA? My best Aziz (saffron guy) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer® 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees?
Oh, so then what about all these other Canadian mets that I have seen (some of them quite regularly) on ebay without export permits? Tagish Lake, Bruderheim, Piece River, etc.. My little Tagish Lake fragment didn't come with one, and I think ordered it from the US. --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! - Original Message From: Roman Jirasek To: metlist Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 7:12:32 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? Canadian meteorites need export permits, period. Including temporary export for research. Here is the Canadian Heritage site for all the info regarding this. http://www.pch.gc.ca/eng/1268673230268/1268674596897 Roman Jirasek www.meteoritelabels.com - Original Message - From: "Melanie Matthews" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? > Not to give anyone a bad name or scare those who > are already bidding on some of them, but it seems kinda strange how > there is no mention of export permits.. I PMed them and according to them > she's selling them "for research" and as such they can get away with > selling BCs without a permit. It seems they are legit. > > --- > Melanie > IMCA: 2975 > eBay: metmel2775 > Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 > > Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know > what you're gonna get! > > > > - Original Message > From: Linton Rohr > To: Jason Utas > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 10:57:33 AM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? > > Well Jason, I certainly could be wrong. > I just hate to see anybody here get burned. > My eyes can't tell for sure that those are fresh, fusion-crusted stones, > as opposed to little black earth rocks, due to the photo quality. > They do look somewhat probable though, I'll admit. > The larger problem to me, is the export permit. > Was there any mention of that when you spoke? > Linton > > - Original Message - > From: "Jason Utas" > To: "Meteorite-list" > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:40 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? > > > Melanie, Linton, > The photos depict what are clearly fresh stony meteorites, regardless > of their quality (viz., the photos'). > This seller is a local and has been selling Buzzard Coulee stones > since shortly after the fall. > I've spoken with them on a few occasions, and, while I haven't > actually purchased any stones, they do seem to be on the level. > Regards, > Jason > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Linton Rohr > wrote: >> Melanie, >> No, I do not know the seller. >> The poor quality photos are just a nuisance. >> The text indicates to me that the seller does not know meteorites. >> Sounds like he took a few notes from someone elses legitimate ad. >> No mention of export permits is a giant red flag, though. >> You could always ask him/her about that. I almost did. >> The price/gram is sure a lot lower though, eh? >> Almost too good to be true, isn't it... >> And you know what they say about that! >> Linton >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Melanie Matthews" >> >> To: "Meteorite List" >> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:59 PM >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? >> >> >>> >>> http://shop.ebay.ca/306krista/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340 >>> >>> Worldwide shipping and no mention of an export permit for any of them? >>> Anyone here know this person and if he/she is for real? >>> >>> --- >>> Melanie >>> IMCA: 2975 >>> eBay: metmel2775 >>> Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 >>> >>> Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know >>> what you're gonna get! >>> >>> >>> >>> __ >>> Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! >>> >>> http://www.flickr.com/gift/ >>> >>> __ >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA Meteorites
Greetings Aziz and List! The meteorites from NWA have been a boon to collectors and science alike. Despite some of the misconceptions about provenance, their importance cannot be overlooked. This is a special time to be a meteorite collector and I feel fortunate to have NWA meteorites represented (in force) in my collection. In the days before the internet and the Saharan gold rush, owning large specimens of rare types was an impossibility for most private collectors. Now, thanks to Morocco, I can possess large baseball-sized carbonaceous chondrites (like NWA 6026) that were previously unavailable to the average collector. All of the most exotic types are now represented in collection cabinets in private homes, universities, and museums. It is timely that you mention this, Aziz, because I am working to produce a tribute (of sorts) to the NWA Saharan meteorites and their origins. I will make an announcement on the list when this project is ready for the public. :) FWIW, I could sing praises to the NWA meteorites, but nobody can do it more eloquently than Martin Altmann - his expertise and views on the NWA meteorite dynamic explain the benefits of this exchange far better than I can. Best regards and happy huntings! MikeG On 3/31/10, Abdelaziz Alhyane wrote: > Hi listers, > I got reolies, one the guys suggested April 1st as a NWA DAY! i'm wondring > where is the IMCA? or even what is IMCA? Hi IMCA can you talk ? > > I don't think i can think those who replied me? but sure, the NWAs they have > will do it! because we are not talking about persons here, we do about NWA > METEORITES > > Best > > Aziz, ( Saffron Guy) > > --- On Wed, 3/31/10, Abdelaziz Alhyane wrote: > >> From: Abdelaziz Alhyane >> Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA Meteorites >> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 6:59 PM >> Dear list Members, >> >> Lets talk a little bet about NWA sceintifacally and in >> marketing. what did NWA stones offer to sceince? Do you >> appreciate NWA, it's obly 3 letters, but has done great for >> sceince, collectors and dealers, don't you have anything to >> say to NWA ? can we have a special day for NWA? can we >> celibrate it? and call it NWA DAY ? any word as a gift to >> those great meteorites were found in NWA? >> >> >> >> My best >> Aziz (saffron guy) >> >> >> >> >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees?
Hi list, this is what this guy wrote to me after I asked him/her for better photos and the expert permit: 'HI .SO FAR MOST HAVE BEEN SOLD INTO CANADA...I WAS TOLD THAT IF THEY ARE SAMPLE ROCKS FOR STUDY NO PERMIT WAS REQUIRED ..I/M NOT SURE ON THIS.. I/M NOT REALLY INTO THIS STUFF I/M JUST A GUY THAT HAS FOUND A FEW PIECES IT LANDED 10 MILES FROM OUR HOME...I ALSO SAY IT COME DOWN TKS BILL- 306krista' A few minutes later he sent me another email asking for my phone number because he wants to talk to me. I'm not sure whether he's aware of the fact that I live in Australia but that's not the point. The point is that he tries to sell the Buzzard Coulees to any country in the world without the permit required by the law. They are no use to me without it and I will therefore stay away from this guy. Cheers Werner Schroer Australia __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees?
Melanie, All the Tagish Lake specimens I sell and I have sold in the past (and they are now in quite a few collections), come from Eric Twelker who does have an export permit. Bruderheim might have been exported from Canada before that law came in effect. Tett or Roman might have that information. That applies to Abee too. And I have sold some Springwater I got in a trade with ASU, that came out of Canada before the export permits became mandatory. But all the pieces of Springwater found very recently will need an export permit before they can leave Canada. I hope this helps. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 3/31/2010 9:11:34 PM Mountain Daylight Time, miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca writes: Oh, so then what about all these other Canadian mets that I have seen (some of them quite regularly) on ebay without export permits? Tagish Lake, Bruderheim, Piece River, etc.. My little Tagish Lake fragment didn't come with one, and I think ordered it from the US. --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! - Original Message From: Roman Jirasek To: metlist Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 7:12:32 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? Canadian meteorites need export permits, period. Including temporary export for research. Here is the Canadian Heritage site for all the info regarding this. http://www.pch.gc.ca/eng/1268673230268/1268674596897 Roman Jirasek www.meteoritelabels.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The Buzzards Have Landed
Hello All Just a quick note to inform those who pre-ordered Buzzard Coulee through me and Mike Bandli that the stones are now US citizens and will be flying to a mailbox near you via Priority Mail in the next 48 hours. Copies of the export permit will be included. Thanks for your business, all of our pieces have found buyers but I believe McCartney Taylor stated his are leaving the nest soon. Be well, Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/nakhladog -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Central Florida bolide of 30 March 2010
>>It's a longshot, but I'll take some time tomorrow to compile a list of local police departments in that area and ring them up. See if they've had any reports of damage to property due to falling stones or if they have further reported sightings.<< Be keen of reports to police and fire departments for possible air plane crashes. geozay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Into Clock Tower!
http://www.stratfordpress.co.nz/local/news/meteorite-crashes-into-clock-tower/3911990/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Influx, Paleometeorites, and Impact Structures, Estonia
Dear Friends, Below are some PDF files and an abstract about Ordovician meteorite influx, fossil meteorites (paleometeorites), and impact structures from Estonia. Carl Alwmark, 2009, Traces in Earth's geological record of the break-up of the L-chondrite parent body 470 Ma. LithoLund theses No. 18, Department of Geology, Lund University. http://lup.lub.lu.se/luur/download?func=downloadFile&fileOId=1396353 Cronholm, A, 2009, The flux of extraterrestrial matter to Earth as recorded in Paleogene and Middle Ordovician marine sediments. LithoLund theses No. 17, Department of Geology, Lund University. http://lup.lub.lu.se/luur/download?func=downloadFile&fileOId=1393642 Suuroja, K.-M., 2008, Geology and Lithology of the Early Palaeozoic Marine Impact Structures Kardla and Neugrund (Estonia). Department of Geology, University of Tartu, Estonia http://dspace.utlib.ee/dspace/bitstream/10062/6931/1/suurojakalle.pdf Awlmark, C., B. Schmitz, and K. Kirsimae, 2010, The mid-Ordovician Osmussaar breccia in Estonia linked to the disruption of the L-chondrite parent body in the asteroid belt Geological Society of America Bulletin B30040.1, first published on March 29, 2010, doi:10.1130/B30040.1 http://gsabulletin.gsapubs.org/content/early/2010/03/29/B30040.1.abstract Yours, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA DAY
Hey Listers, This is what I got from some of you;HAPPY NWA DAY!!! CAN WE DO 04/04/10 AS A NWA DAY ? Ma best Saffron guy __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA DAY
I meant 04/01/10 --- On Wed, 3/31/10, Abdelaziz Alhyane wrote: > From: Abdelaziz Alhyane > Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA DAY > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 9:46 PM > Hey Listers, > This is what I got from some of you; HAPPY NWA > DAY!!! > CAN WE DO 04/04/10 AS A NWA DAY ? > > Ma best > > Saffron guy > > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees?
Hi Melanie: No, selling or even lending them for research makes no difference. A Canadian researcher sent some meteorites to U of Oregon for classification and got Challenged by Canadian cultural properties for doing it. No, it doesn't matter why you are exporting them, they can smack you. Don't get lulled by someone ignorant of the law. Murray On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Melanie Matthews wrote: > Not to give anyone a bad name or scare those who > are already bidding on some of them, but it seems kinda strange how > there is no mention of export permits.. I PMed them and according to them > she's selling them "for research" and as such they can get away with selling > BCs without a permit. It seems they are legit. > > --- > Melanie > IMCA: 2975 > eBay: metmel2775 > Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 > > Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what > you're gonna get! > > > > - Original Message > From: Linton Rohr > To: Jason Utas > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 10:57:33 AM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? > > Well Jason, I certainly could be wrong. > I just hate to see anybody here get burned. > My eyes can't tell for sure that those are fresh, fusion-crusted stones, > as opposed to little black earth rocks, due to the photo quality. > They do look somewhat probable though, I'll admit. > The larger problem to me, is the export permit. > Was there any mention of that when you spoke? > Linton > > - Original Message - > From: "Jason Utas" > To: "Meteorite-list" > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:40 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? > > > Melanie, Linton, > The photos depict what are clearly fresh stony meteorites, regardless > of their quality (viz., the photos'). > This seller is a local and has been selling Buzzard Coulee stones > since shortly after the fall. > I've spoken with them on a few occasions, and, while I haven't > actually purchased any stones, they do seem to be on the level. > Regards, > Jason > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Linton Rohr > wrote: >> Melanie, >> No, I do not know the seller. >> The poor quality photos are just a nuisance. >> The text indicates to me that the seller does not know meteorites. >> Sounds like he took a few notes from someone elses legitimate ad. >> No mention of export permits is a giant red flag, though. >> You could always ask him/her about that. I almost did. >> The price/gram is sure a lot lower though, eh? >> Almost too good to be true, isn't it... >> And you know what they say about that! >> Linton >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Melanie Matthews" >> >> To: "Meteorite List" >> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:59 PM >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees? >> >> >>> >>> http://shop.ebay.ca/306krista/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340 >>> >>> Worldwide shipping and no mention of an export permit for any of them? >>> Anyone here know this person and if he/she is for real? >>> >>> --- >>> Melanie >>> IMCA: 2975 >>> eBay: metmel2775 >>> Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 >>> >>> Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know >>> what you're gonna get! >>> >>> >>> >>> __ >>> Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! >>> >>> http://www.flickr.com/gift/ >>> >>> __ >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > __ > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your > favourite sites. Download it now > http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA DAY
Does anyone else think it's a little strange to double anything intended to be serious up with April Fool's day? On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Abdelaziz Alhyane wrote: > I meant 04/01/10 > > --- On Wed, 3/31/10, Abdelaziz Alhyane wrote: > >> From: Abdelaziz Alhyane >> Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA DAY >> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 9:46 PM >> Hey Listers, >> This is what I got from some of you; HAPPY NWA >> DAY!!! >> CAN WE DO 04/04/10 AS A NWA DAY ? >> >> Ma best >> >> Saffron guy >> >> >> >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Martian NWA 1068 on eBay!
Hi folks, An infrequent foray to the metlist... match head sized piece of the Shergottite NWA 1068. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270556285704&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT merci! dave harris IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS. www.bimsociety.org __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA DAY
Ya think? I gather they're not acquainted with our mischievous little "holiday". Linton - Original Message - From: "Jason Utas" To: "Meteorite-list" Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA DAY Does anyone else think it's a little strange to double anything intended to be serious up with April Fool's day? On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Abdelaziz Alhyane wrote: I meant 04/01/10 --- On Wed, 3/31/10, Abdelaziz Alhyane wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA DAY To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 9:46 PM Hey Listers, This is what I got from some of you; HAPPY NWA DAY!!! CAN WE DO 04/04/10 AS A NWA DAY ? Ma best Saffron guy __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list