Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt.
Bill, I will say this once and ONCE only! Don't EVER call me a liar again! You're memory is seriously flawed! I DID draw you a map with an X marks the spot direct to a confirmed find you know it and I know it! And the "NOs" you received from me were for stones and information I was under promise not to reveal. Do not make the mistake of twisting that information for your benefit Bill! I will call you on it... People on this list can decide for themselves based on your history. I think that speaks for itself. Eric Quoting bill kies : Eric, It was a pleasure meeting you. I won't publicly argue with you other than to say that you may have mentioned the general area you were hunting in but you certainly did not give me a treasure map with X marks the spot, lol. I distinctly remember many resounding NO'S when asking about new finds. Believe me, I understand that. Good luck and I hope to see you soon. I'll be back up in a day or two. I need a few days of good food and a little rest. Getting old Good Hunting, Bill Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 07:29:32 -0600 From: e...@meteoritesusa.com To: parkforest...@hotmail.com CC: wahlpe...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt. Hey Bill, List, Did you bother to talk to Sonny and ask him anything or are you assuming he'd never been on that land? Perhaps he'd already had previous permission? I don't know... But to attack Sonny so brashly and call him names PUBLICLY that are completely out of character for him, seems to me to be much more rude than him walking past you in the field... Need I mention that I drew you a map, literally where X marked the spot of the area where a NICE stone was found on the small end where I knew there were most likely more pieces and so a good chance you might make a find or two. Yet there was no reciprocation at all from you... Who's greedy Bill? The one who ignores you, or the one who holds his information even after information is shared with him? By the way, I'll keep "pumpin" the lack of material too. Until there's more confirmed, it's ALL rumor! Regards, Eric Quoting bill kies : Well, I just returned from my third trip with 12 days walking on cobbs and I have to say that the most pathetic display of rude bs was that of Sonny what's his name. The man pulled up his truck, looked through us like we were non-exixtant ignoring the fact, as we protested, that we had previous permission to search the property in question. Sonny was so aggressive that he didn't even notice that one of our team members was a 77 year old man that was the Patriarch of the family that owned the land. He ignored us and hauled ass straight up to the front door trying to conive his way in. Nice work Sonny. You deserve a big pat on the back. You belong in Georgia. You're a real inspiration to us all you greedy S*B. Bill PS: Keep pumping the lack of material. Time will tell. To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 00:37:00 -0400 From: wahlpe...@aol.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt. Hi All, I just returned from my second hunt in Wisconsin. I hunted a total of 9 days in the field. I really enjoyed spending time with the other hunters and got to know some of the locals too. Without a doubt, Wisconsin is the friendliest state I have ever visited. Everyone would invite you into their homes, also allow you to hunt for meteorites on their property. I even had a chance to milk a cow. I want to say thanks to Rob Matson and Mark Fries for the great work with the Doppler Radar. Terry Boudreaux and Karl Aston played a major role in gaining access to hunt many of the properties. These 2 guys are awesome. What really made this trip enjoyable was spending time with everyone hunting. After 9 days of hunting I was able to find 3 meteorites, one with the assistance of Brix (my dog) and the other 2 on my second trip out. The total of my finds is 366.4 grams. I hope to post pictures from the hunt on my website within the next week. The rumors of many stones being recovered is simply not true. Out of 6 guys hunting for 4 days( covering a lot of ground ) only 2 stones were recovered. On the previous hunt with 10 guys hunting only 4 stones were recovered. By far, the best complete stone I have seen is Rob Wesel's. Another kudo's goes out to Joe Kerchner for his magnificent find. Eric Wichman also made some outstanding finds. Many of the fields are now being plowed and planted. Further recovery of meteorites is becoming more difficult. It would be nice to compile a list of everyone's finds to determine the TKW so far. Good luck to all of the guys that are still out in the field. Sonny __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt.
Yeah there's some other things that seem to happen with every fall too... Regards, Eric Quoting star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com: It always seems to happen with each fall... Some could say it shows the passion we all have for meteorites... Greg C. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: "Don Giovanni" Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 00:54:58 To: Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt. Wow. Considering the list recently, Chicago-Steve's apparently imminent return could only be an improvement.:) DG -- ___ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Very Updated Website
Hello everybody, Please go take a look at my re-organized, updated and (I hope!) much improved website! It really was high time I did something with that very looong Meteorite page. It has now been chopped in two pages, one for the IRONS and Stony-Irons, and one for all the STONES, chondrites or achondrites. I certainly hope that it will make your shopping much easier. Go to the NEWS page for more details. And careful with the Links, they have changed too, Impact Glass, Tektites and Impact Breccias are now sharing a page labeled IMPACTITES. And while I was at it I added over 100 pieces; as usually they are highlighted in RED. Some of the more noteworthy: a nice assortment of Tatahouine specimens, from 27.99g to a huge 97.06g courtesy of Alain Carion, Marjalahti (thank you Darryl), a huge Esquel slices, 354.4g., a large (7480g) end cut of Zacatecas 1969, some rare micros (Apt, Tagish, Yatoor,) and of course the great pieces I acquired from ASU (New Concord, Murray, Haskell,..). And Alain Carion's new book is now proudly presented on my BOOKS-PRINTS page. Lots of THIN-SECTIONS still available, and that page will be updated next. And, last but not least, ALMAHATA SITTA! (also known as Asteroid 2008 TC3) specimens are still available, just click on the name on the NEWS page to go to that separate page. Any problem, broken link, typos, just let me know. Thanks. Anne M. Black http://www.impactika.com/ impact...@aol.com Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. http://www.imca.cc/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Photos of my Wisconsin Slices are up
Hello listees. Again I'm sorry for the long long delay, I was going to add the photos when soccer practice was over, but we had some family issues after practice and took up a few hours, I have been editing the pics since. I am adding more pics every few minutes. If you do not see anything that interests you yet, check back soon. For those who purchased slices already I sent them out this afternoon. They all look as good or better than these ones. I didnt have the time to photograph them before I had to ship them, if I did I would not have been able to ship until tomorrow afternoon. I cherry picked them for you, they all have crust and great features. All of the pieces are absolutely gorgeous. I love this material, some of the best looking stuff I have ever seen. I am absolutely sure you will all love them. If anyone is not satisfied with those or any others that you purchase, I will accept returns, however I am absolutely certain that everyone will be more than satisfied. most weigh at least a tenth of a gram over. Here are the pieces I have available, more will be posted within the next hour or so, every few minutes a new piece will be added. Enjoy!! http://illinoismeteorites.com/wisconsin_meteorite_slices.htm Best Wishes, Joe Kerchner http://illinoismeteorites.com http://skyrockcafe.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Deceased Equine Flagellators...was pics of slices coming in the AM,
Too Funny. Thank you Elton, Welcome back. Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax MEM wrote: > Joe, we are mature adults here--well most of the time, most of us are. > Please tell us the name of those scum feeding, yellow belly, latte liberal, > low life whiner, busy-bodies-- so we can judge for ourselves "their" > character. Messing with a man's meteorite business sounds like an unethical > practice the IMCA needs to hear about. > > Elton: > > AD: Your "dead hoss" deserves the very best! Custom Made, meteorite- > encrusted*, "Ole Dead Grey Mare", Brand flagellators--Why just flog when you > can flagellate? Drive your drivel home with overpowering emphasis rather > than one feeble stroke at a time. Flail away with a cosmic flare for more > lingering, "redundant, re-phrased, re-posted, re-quoted, re-statements > ...etc.etc.etc!!!" for a dramatic impression that "repetition" is more > effective if "repeated" often enough(...Did I repeat myself?). No > back-peddling required. Brandishing one of our flagellators, most will never > notice that your comments haven't change over the last 10 "you've made your > point" ad nauseum repetitions. > > See also our line of Smallman "Puff me Up"®" elixir for those "mine is bigger > than yours" show-and-tells. > > * Fusion-crusted and main-mass mega-braggadachio models substanitally higher > > Not responsible for mis-use or abuse of our products > > > --- On Mon, 5/3/10, Joe Kerchner wrote: > snip I got it sliced even tho a couple list members tried very > > hard to stop it, a couple even contacted the University that > > was going to do it for me and complained, caused a big stink > > and got people in trouble for offering to help. People need > > to get out there and find their own pieces, and then they > > can worry about cutting it or not cutting it. After they > > walk nearly 200 miles and hunt for over 100hr... > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Deceased Equine Flagellators...was pics of slices coming in the AM,
Joe, we are mature adults here--well most of the time, most of us are. Please tell us the name of those scum feeding, yellow belly, latte liberal, low life whiner, busy-bodies-- so we can judge for ourselves "their" character. Messing with a man's meteorite business sounds like an unethical practice the IMCA needs to hear about. Elton: AD: Your "dead hoss" deserves the very best! Custom Made, meteorite- encrusted*, "Ole Dead Grey Mare", Brand flagellators--Why just flog when you can flagellate? Drive your drivel home with overpowering emphasis rather than one feeble stroke at a time. Flail away with a cosmic flare for more lingering, "redundant, re-phrased, re-posted, re-quoted, re-statements ...etc.etc.etc!!!" for a dramatic impression that "repetition" is more effective if "repeated" often enough(...Did I repeat myself?). No back-peddling required. Brandishing one of our flagellators, most will never notice that your comments haven't change over the last 10 "you've made your point" ad nauseum repetitions. See also our line of Smallman "Puff me Up"®" elixir for those "mine is bigger than yours" show-and-tells. * Fusion-crusted and main-mass mega-braggadachio models substanitally higher Not responsible for mis-use or abuse of our products --- On Mon, 5/3/10, Joe Kerchner wrote: snip I got it sliced even tho a couple list members tried very > hard to stop it, a couple even contacted the University that > was going to do it for me and complained, caused a big stink > and got people in trouble for offering to help. People need > to get out there and find their own pieces, and then they > can worry about cutting it or not cutting it. After they > walk nearly 200 miles and hunt for over 100hr... __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fwd: Coordinate-sharing
-Original Message- From: wahlpe...@aol.com To: robert.d.mat...@saic.com Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 5:16 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Coordinate-sharing Hi All, I just wanted to say that I had misunderstood Atul's comments on having information from Rob Matson. I apologize for any confusion this may have caused. Sonny -Original Message- From: Matson, Robert D. To: meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 4:51 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Coordinate-sharing Hi All, Just for clarification to the List, I have not (yet) shared any meteorite find coordinates with Atul for the simple reason that *I* didn't find those meteorites, and therefore I have no right to share their coordinates with anyone else. This is common courtesy. --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt.
It always seems to happen with each fall... Some could say it shows the passion we all have for meteorites... Greg C. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: "Don Giovanni" Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 00:54:58 To: Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt. Wow. Considering the list recently, Chicago-Steve's apparently imminent return could only be an improvement.:) DG -- ___ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt.
Wow. Considering the list recently, Chicago-Steve's apparently imminent return could only be an improvement.:) DG -- ___ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Coordinate-sharing
Hi All, Just for clarification to the List, I have not (yet) shared any meteorite find coordinates with Atul for the simple reason that *I* didn't find those meteorites, and therefore I have no right to share their coordinates with anyone else. This is common courtesy. --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meteorites
Ugh, Do we actually talk about meteorites on here anymore? Everyone sit down and pee. Someone call a whabulance and lets move on. If we can't, that's fine too. I'm not the boss. I can find some other forum that won't make me feel like I'm watching the script to a bad soap opera. Warren Sansoucie __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fwd: Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt.
-Original Message- From: wahlpe...@aol.com To: parkforest...@hotmail.com Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 4:20 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt. Hi Bill, Since you have decided to call me names on a public forum I feel that I need to speak up. But in the future I prefer to keep this off list. I Never told anyone to beat it, I am not sure where that is coming from .It is not up to the other hunters who is allowed to hunt the land. It is strictly up to the landowners. The reasons why I did not have an in depth conversation with you in Wisconsin. #1 We were in a rush. #2 I had already formed a poor opinion of you by the many negative posts you have made to the List . I felt it was best to keep a distance from you. Maybe you have given me the wrong impression, I am strictly basing it on several of your posts. Atlhough some of your posts are nice... many are not. Perhaps I can refresh your memory. Aug 18, 2009 the X - rated " SHAFT" post which is pretty creative yet so outrageous that I am surprised it made it to the List. Or how about the July 20, 2009 "rats ass" post or the July 11, 2009 "egomaniac dealers" post. Perhaps it would serve you well to read your own advice on the post dated May 2, 2009 regarding reading your old posts and realizing how " damn stupid" they are. I will provide a link for you in case you decide to check them out. http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Sonny -Original Message- From: bill kies To: wahlpe...@aol.com Cc: meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 3:48 pm Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt. Sonny, You can spin it any way you like. Your lengthy chain of events should include, "We spent a minute talking to the guys that were there first and they agreed that it would be a pleasure for all of us to search together". One minute of courtesy goes a long way. There were at least 3 hours of daylight left. I met several well known hunters on land that they claimed to have secured and was told in no uncertain terms to beat it. I did. Next time I'll remember your code of conduct. Bill To: parkforest...@hotmail.com; meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt. Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 09:26:20 -0400 From: wahlpe...@aol.com Wow Bill, you really seem to remember the chain of events much differently than I do. As I remember it was late in the day with little time left to hunt. As we pulled up there was a gentleman on an ATV, 2 guys standing at the back of a truck talking, and one guy leaning over a car talking thru the passenger window to the driver. As I approached the guy on the ATV I asked whose land it was, the man I spoke to WAS the PATRIARCH of the land. We joked about me riding on the back of his ATV and how much he would charge me per hour to drive around in his son's cornfield. He then suggested that I go talk to his son at the house at the bottom of the hill and ask for permission for my friends and I to hunt the land. As I was walking away you approached us and said Hi. We introduced ourselves ,I shook your hand. We then drove down to the bottom of the hill to talk to the landowner. The landowner greeted us and said "You can hunt this land all you want". We discussed a 50/50 split of the finds and a dollar amount per gram for his half if we were lucky enough to find any. He then explained the property boundaries and wished us luck. Bill you have to remember this was late in the day and we only had an hour and a half left of sunlight. We only wanted to hunt the small corner of the property to plan the next days hunt. You have to understand we spent thousands of dollars to come and do this hunt between airfare, rent a car and hotel. We were on a mission to get as much done as possible in a few short days. We are also working on mapping the finds and at the end will present the map to the University. Time was of the essence that evening. Bill , you would also think that when we returned the following morning we were greeted by BOTH THE FATHER AND THE SON and spent a few minutes joking around. At this point I am sure they would have said something if it was such a big deal. It is up to the landowners who they allow to hunt their property, not you. Bill as with this post and with the history of some of your other posts to the list you can understand why we did not spend a lot of time talking with you. Your bad reputation precedes you. Also for all of the meteorites that you are saying are being recovered please enlighten me. So for the 12 days you and your team spent out there please let us know how many kilos you recovered. There is no doubt that there may be a lot of material in the field but it is yet be found. With the planting going on ther
Re: [meteorite-list] WI strewn field map(preliminary) is Ready- and data request.
Hi Atul, I read that Rob Matson has given you most of the information already. This is the EXACT same information that I would have given you. Rob has almost all of my current information. So it seems you already have what you need. As with all data I wanted to get the ok from the guys still hunting in the area. The data that we recovered was from many hours in the field and from other meteorite hunters working the area. As a courtesy to them, I could not release their information without an ok from these guys. Atul, I also want to make it clear that I never requested any find locations from you (nor DO I need any) at any point in the conversation. During your phone call this morning, I told you that I would be tied up most of the day and would call you later. You seemed awfully persistent in getting this information. A couple of friends of mine still have plans on hunting a few more weeks. The reason I was reluctant with the information, is from what happened at the Candle Factory where you told the land owner that you could get 50- 60 dollars per gram on any meteorite found on her land. After you said this, Joe was kicked off the land. With these tactics no meteorites would be recovered and possibly lost. It took 9 guys a day and a half of walking in the fields to locate the pieces in this area and from your actions no one else will be hunting this land. We walked many miles in the field to locate these finds and I wanted to make sure I looked out for the best interest of my fellow hunters. Maybe next time instead of driving your car around and talking to the land owners you can join us for the hunt for 8 to 10 hours a day. This may help you gain some perspective on where I am coming from. Sonny -Original Message- From: atul To: Meteorite list ; atulkuma...@yahoo.com Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 1:52 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] WI strewn field map(preliminary) is Ready- and data request. Hi allJust returned from WI- 3 more days of data.I had honored sonny clarys request to me to not release data or the prelim strewn field map last week monday with the understanding that his group would provide me with data of all their finds.As of this morning sonny has advised me that he or his group will not be providing any data to me for a few weeks. I have decided to make my compliation of data for approx 75 finds public.If you are in the area and need an area to search I pls email me off list with (WI strewn field map) and I will provide you with data- or call me- if you need an area now. Please do provide reasons you would need the data- search, research or dealer. If you have a confirmed find- with pics and weight- pls email it to off list- with WI data in the subject line.I am especially curious about the 2+ kg piece that has now disappeared. Did some dealer buy it and doesn't want anyone to know lest the price fall.I have a pic of the 2 kg if anyone wishes to see it.I also have a bearing on the 6 larger pieces that went thataway- in case anyone wishes to chase them down.I believe the best way to recover stones in this and all falls is the free unrestricted sharing of find and modelling data. I thank Rob matson for his help and support,and all others who helped. Its been fun.RegardsAtul kumarCell - 219- 308-8282Amateur astronomer- EducationCalumet astronomical societySent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry-Original Message-From: wahlpe...@aol.comdate: Mon, 03 May 2010 16:14:40 To: Subject: [meteorite-list] AD : 16.8 gram WI meteoriteHi All,I have a 16.8 gram complete meteorite, with 99.9 percent fusion crust. Taking highest offer. please contact of list .Sonny__Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.htmlMeteorite-list mailing listmeteorite-l...@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/li stinfo/meteorite-list__Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.htmlMeteorite-list mailing listmeteorite-l...@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/li stinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt.
Sonny, You can spin it any way you like. Your lengthy chain of events should include, "We spent a minute talking to the guys that were there first and they agreed that it would be a pleasure for all of us to search together". One minute of courtesy goes a long way. There were at least 3 hours of daylight left. I met several well known hunters on land that they claimed to have secured and was told in no uncertain terms to beat it. I did. Next time I'll remember your code of conduct. Bill > To: parkforest...@hotmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt. > Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 09:26:20 -0400 > From: wahlpe...@aol.com > > Wow Bill, you really seem to remember the chain of events much > differently than I do. As I remember it was late in the day with little > time left to hunt. As we pulled up there was a gentleman on an ATV, 2 > guys standing at the back of a truck talking, and one guy leaning over > a car talking thru the passenger window to the driver. As I approached > the guy on the ATV I asked whose land it was, the man I spoke to WAS > the PATRIARCH of the land. We joked about me riding on the back of his > ATV and how much he would charge me per hour to drive around in his > son's cornfield. He then suggested that I go talk to his son at the > house at the bottom of the hill and ask for permission for my friends > and I to hunt the land. As I was walking away you approached us and > said Hi. We introduced ourselves ,I shook your hand. We then drove down > to the bottom of the hill to talk to the landowner. The landowner > greeted us and said "You can hunt this land all you want". We > discussed a 50/50 split of the finds and a dollar amount per gram for > his half if we were lucky enough to find any. He then explained the > property boundaries and wished us luck. Bill you have to remember > this was late in the day and we only had an hour and a half left of > sunlight. We only wanted to hunt the small corner of the property to > plan the next days hunt. You have to understand we spent thousands of > dollars to come and do this hunt between airfare, rent a car and hotel. > We were on a mission to get as much done as possible in a few short > days. We are also working on mapping the finds and at the end will > present the map to the University. Time was of the essence that > evening. > > Bill , you would also think that when we returned the following morning > we were greeted by BOTH THE FATHER AND THE SON and spent a few minutes > joking around. At this point I am sure they would have said something > if it was such a big deal. > It is up to the landowners who they allow to hunt their property, not > you. > > Bill as with this post and with the history of some of your other posts > to the list you can understand why we did not spend a lot of time > talking with you. Your bad reputation precedes you. Also for all of > the meteorites that you are saying are being recovered please enlighten > me. So for the 12 days you and your team spent out there please let us > know how many kilos you recovered. There is no doubt that there may be > a lot of material in the field but it is yet be found. With the > planting going on there is a good chance the material may be lost > forever. > > And as for Georgia, you're right my heart belongs to Georgia. > > Sonny > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: bill kies > To: wahlpe...@aol.com > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 10:33 pm > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt. > > > Well, I just returned from my third trip with 12 days walking on cobbs > and I have to say that the most pathetic display of rude bs was that of > Sonny what's his name. The man pulled up his truck, looked through us > like we were non-exixtant ignoring the fact, as we protested, that we > had previous permission to search the property in question. Sonny was > so aggressive that he didn't even notice that one of our team members > was a 77 year old man that was the Patriarch of the family that owned > the land. He ignored us and hauled ass straight up to the front door > trying to conive his way in. Nice work Sonny. You deserve a big pat on > the back. You belong in Georgia. You're a real inspiration to us all > you greedy S*B. Bill PS: Keep pumping the lack of material. Time will > tell. > To: > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 00:37:00 > -0400> From: wahlpe...@aol.com> Subject: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin > Meteorite Hunt.>> Hi All,>> I just returned from my second hunt in > Wisconsin. I hunted a total of 9> days in the field. I really enjoyed > spending time with the other> hunters and got to know some of the > locals too.> Without a doubt, Wisconsin is the friendliest state I have > ever> visited. Everyone would invite you into their homes, also allow >
Re: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorite TKW
I can also account for 92g of the fall at this time and more to be announced. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Mon, 5/3/10, Greg Catterton wrote: > From: Greg Catterton > Subject: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorite pictures > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 6:23 PM > Hi to all, here are some pictures of > a 12g WI stone that was cut in half. > To save emails, this is not for sale, its already found a > great home. > Just thought some may like to see some pictures of it. > > http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4380.jpg > http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4378.jpg > http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4376.jpg > > Hope everyone is doing well. > > Greg Catterton > www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com > IMCA member 4682 > On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorites?
Mike, How much time did you spend in the fields? How many farms did you search? How many people that live in the area did you bother to sit down with and talk to? I saw over 50 stones recovered by hunters and locals that never heard of this list. I sold my first stone to a guy from Racine. He never heard of this list. The met-list is not the center of the universe although I have to admit that it is the first place I send every "local" I meet so they can see what things are selling for first hand and get a feel for who they're dealing with. I also suggest they search ebay for "Wisconsin meteorites" before they sell. Naturally this skunks a lot of deals for me but at least I feel good knowing they aren't being ripped off by offers of 5 bucks a gram for oriented stones. Take that bucket off your head and open your eyes. By the way, I said plenty left not plenty to go around. Bill > Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 13:18:44 -0700 > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorites? > From: meteoritefin...@gmail.com > To: parkforest...@hotmail.com > CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > Wow Bill plenty to go around! That is great news how many did you > find while you were there? How many were you able to purchase while > you were there? Very strange because things were VERY different when > I was there last week. Very good meteorite hunters were looking for > days and days and days and they were finding NOTHING? This is very > strange indeed because I was also trying to buy meteorites when I was > there and I bought ZERO because there were NONE for sale. Were you in > Wisconsin USA or somewhere else? Maybe there is a new fall there since > last week? Maybe I will get my bucket out and get back on the > plane. > > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:40 PM, bill kies wrote: >> >> >> There are plenty left, many are in the hands of locals. Many are still being >> picked up. Many more will be found in the next month. Now that meteorites >> have been introduced to the public, everyone young and old is out there >> having a blast! >> >> As in any reasonably large fall people have tripped over them. I saw one >> today that a 5 year old found in the yard. Black as crow, pristine velvet >> crust. I think much more is yet to come ;) >> >> All Hail the Black Hail, >> Bill >> >> >> _ >> The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with >> Hotmail. >> http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > > > -- > Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az 86401 > www.meteoritefinder.com > 928-753-6825 _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] WI Meteorite pictures
Hi to all, here are some pictures of a 12g WI stone that was cut in half. To save emails, this is not for sale, its already found a great home. Just thought some may like to see some pictures of it. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4380.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4378.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF4376.jpg Hope everyone is doing well. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] WI strewn field map(preliminary) is Ready- and data request.
Hi all Just returned from WI- 3 more days of data. I had honored sonny clarys request to me to not release data or the prelim strewn field map last week monday with the understanding that his group would provide me with data of all their finds. As of this morning sonny has advised me that he or his group will not be providing any data to me for a few weeks. I have decided to make my compliation of data for approx 75 finds public. If you are in the area and need an area to search I pls email me off list with (WI strewn field map) and I will provide you with data- or call me- if you need an area now. Please do provide reasons you would need the data- search, research or dealer. If you have a confirmed find- with pics and weight- pls email it to off list- with WI data in the subject line. I am especially curious about the 2+ kg piece that has now disappeared. Did some dealer buy it and doesn't want anyone to know lest the price fall. I have a pic of the 2 kg if anyone wishes to see it. I also have a bearing on the 6 larger pieces that went thataway- in case anyone wishes to chase them down. I believe the best way to recover stones in this and all falls is the free unrestricted sharing of find and modelling data. I thank Rob matson for his help and support,and all others who helped. Its been fun. Regards Atul kumar Cell - 219- 308-8282 Amateur astronomer- Education Calumet astronomical society Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: wahlpe...@aol.com Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 16:14:40 To: Subject: [meteorite-list] AD : 16.8 gram WI meteorite Hi All, I have a 16.8 gram complete meteorite, with 99.9 percent fusion crust. Taking highest offer. please contact of list . Sonny __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Opinions on this...
I hope I don't get cancell. Warren Sansoucie > Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 12:35:18 -0500 > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > From: koro...@wustl.edu > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Opinions on this... > > This guy contacted me back in February. Initially, he just sent the > photo and an "analysis report" from an unnamed lab. > == > Analysis Report > C =2.1156% Si =1.6442% Mn =0.4490 % P=0.0556% S=0.0270% Cr=0.0067% > Mo=0.0005% Ni=8.4981% Al=0.0035% Co=4.1850% Cu=0.0151% > Nb=0.0003% Ti=0.0181% V=0.0070% W=0.0047% Pb=0.0002% > Sn=0.0123% B=0.0013% N=0.0034% Fe=82.95% > == > > This is a strange composition. Ni is OK for an iron meteorite but Co > is a factor of 10 too high and Mn is 100x too high. > > I asked for the story, and got this: "I will tell you the story,my > brother had it by change item with shot gun from Kalieng hill type > [Kalieng are people no nation,they brough many oxes from Burmar > border walking through forest and sold in Thailand no tax to pay]this > was happened 35 years ago when my brother had done mine buisness in > the forest of north Thailand near border of Burmar,my brother died > with cancell so I had it. > > > > > > At 14:48 01-05-10 Saturday, you wrote: > >>Here is the story that came with it: >>"I will tell you about the stone,late 35 years ago my brother worked >>as a mine buisness up north on the border of Thailand and Burmar in >>the forest,one day Kalieng hill tribe [Kalieng hill tribe are some >>small people lived on the border]came to my brother office in the >>forest and changed the stone with my brother shot gun and walked >>away,now my brother dead with cancer already,so I have the stone. >>when you see the analysis do you think what it was?Have you been to Bangkok." >> >>The owner is not willing to provide a sample to be testing or >>inspected first hand, that always worries me. >> >>Also, its almost like the classic "x died and left me with billions >>and I want to give it to you if you send me x amount to help" >> >>Greg Catterton >>www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com >>IMCA member 4682 >>On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites > > Randy Korotev > Saint Louis, MO > koro...@wustl.edu > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorites?
Wow Bill plenty to go around! That is great news how many did you find while you were there? How many were you able to purchase while you were there? Very strange because things were VERY different when I was there last week. Very good meteorite hunters were looking for days and days and days and they were finding NOTHING? This is very strange indeed because I was also trying to buy meteorites when I was there and I bought ZERO because there were NONE for sale. Were you in Wisconsin USA or somewhere else? Maybe there is a new fall there since last week? Maybe I will get my bucket out and get back on the plane. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:40 PM, bill kies wrote: > > > There are plenty left, many are in the hands of locals. Many are still being > picked up. Many more will be found in the next month. Now that meteorites > have been introduced to the public, everyone young and old is out there > having a blast! > > As in any reasonably large fall people have tripped over them. I saw one > today that a 5 year old found in the yard. Black as crow, pristine velvet > crust. I think much more is yet to come ;) > > All Hail the Black Hail, > Bill > > > _ > The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with > Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -- Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az 86401 www.meteoritefinder.com 928-753-6825 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : 16.8 gram WI meteorite
Hi All, I have a 16.8 gram complete meteorite, with 99.9 percent fusion crust. Taking highest offer. please contact of list . Sonny __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Off topic . . . please forgive me!
Oh, you didn't know? Kaku's mother and Page's mother were mothers! "You're welcome Gracie" - (George Burns) :>) Best, ken On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:58 AM, gracie wrote: > . . . But I thought a couple of you might appreciate this. > > I've been watching a lot of the Science channel lately and I can't help > but notice an eerie resemblance between my favorite theoretical physicist > and . . . well, you know. Please to enjoy this graphic I made from > internet photos. > > http://www.sheverb.com/kakupagesm.jpg > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Milwaukee Newspapers $.99 Shipping
Good Afternoon... I am offering $.99 Priority Mail shipping on the remaining handful of Milwaukee newspapers that I have available. This is the April 21 issue of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel featuring a large photo of hunters Rob Wesel and Ruben Garcia on the front page, along with a feature article that continues on to full half page (with additional photos). Upon order confirmation, $10.99 can be forwarded to my Paypal account: fallingfus...@earthlink.net If you do not live in the U.S. please contact me for special pricing. Thank you! Ryan Pawelski __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Opinions on this...
This guy contacted me back in February. Initially, he just sent the photo and an "analysis report" from an unnamed lab. == Analysis Report C =2.1156% Si =1.6442% Mn =0.4490 % P=0.0556% S=0.0270% Cr=0.0067% Mo=0.0005% Ni=8.4981% Al=0.0035% Co=4.1850% Cu=0.0151% Nb=0.0003% Ti=0.0181% V=0.0070% W=0.0047% Pb=0.0002% Sn=0.0123% B=0.0013% N=0.0034% Fe=82.95% == This is a strange composition. Ni is OK for an iron meteorite but Co is a factor of 10 too high and Mn is 100x too high. I asked for the story, and got this: "I will tell you the story,my brother had it by change item with shot gun from Kalieng hill type [Kalieng are people no nation,they brough many oxes from Burmar border walking through forest and sold in Thailand no tax to pay]this was happened 35 years ago when my brother had done mine buisness in the forest of north Thailand near border of Burmar,my brother died with cancell so I had it. At 14:48 01-05-10 Saturday, you wrote: Here is the story that came with it: "I will tell you about the stone,late 35 years ago my brother worked as a mine buisness up north on the border of Thailand and Burmar in the forest,one day Kalieng hill tribe [Kalieng hill tribe are some small people lived on the border]came to my brother office in the forest and changed the stone with my brother shot gun and walked away,now my brother dead with cancer already,so I have the stone. when you see the analysis do you think what it was?Have you been to Bangkok." The owner is not willing to provide a sample to be testing or inspected first hand, that always worries me. Also, its almost like the classic "x died and left me with billions and I want to give it to you if you send me x amount to help" Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites Randy Korotev Saint Louis, MO koro...@wustl.edu __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: NWA 6163 a new crazy desert iron
Dear List members, for all collectors who plan a little longer. Now only the last two full slices 13.8g and 18.9g are available. When these slices are sold, the iron is sold out. http://www.meteorite-mirko.de/0334af9d680d99102/index.php Many thanks and best wishes to all, Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY Phone: 0049-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de Member of The Meteoritical Society (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) IMCA-Member: 2113 (International Meteorite Collectors Association) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: etching with radio shack etchant
http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2002/November/meteorites_101.htm Cheers! Matt Quoting "Diiulio, Ronald" : OK all...this looks like it was a great article! Can anyone forward me to a site where I might read it? Thanks, Ron Ron DiIulio Planetarium and Astronomy Laboratory Director Adjunct Professor Physics Department University of North Texas NASA/JPL Solar System Ambassador office phone: 940-369-8213 fax number: 940-369-7792 email: star...@unt.edu -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Martin Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 11:01 AM To: R N Hartman Cc: Meteorite Central; Meteorite1 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: etching with radio shack etchant Aloha Ron, Since reading the article and you and your son wrote, I have used nothing but Ferric Chloride to etch my irons. Your directions were very thorough. A few months ago I etched a Campo that I resurrected from a rusty graveyard and it produced a gorgeous pattern using FC. Of course after sanding, I polished it before etching. Don't let one sour grape get at you--especially since he didn't follow your directions correctly. Even though it's been eight years since your article was published, I want to say "thank you" to you and Jim for your contribution to the field; It gave me the confidence to etch my own irons...and with stunning results! Matthew Quoting R N Hartman : I was just browsing through some of the posts on Joes Skyrockcafe website when I ran across a post from a collector who was unhappy with the Radio Shack etchant for iron meteorites. He claims to have sanded a Campo down to #400 but could not get a Widmanstatten pattern, although he did get a beautiful pattern using the traditional Nitric method. My son, Jim, and I posted an article in the November 2002 issue of the Meteorite Times about preparing and etching irons using Ferric Chloride (which is the same material as used in the Radio Shack etchant). The method has been used widely since that time with outstanding success by many and with superior results, so there is now an undisputed 8 year positive history. Etches show more contrast and subtle details come out more readily, and fears of ferric chloride use have been put to rest as the specimens are not rusting and crumbling. In fact, they do just as well if not better than when etched with nitric. (But that is a topic for another day.) I think the problem of the person in posting his negative experience was that after grinding down to a #400 grit that he did not then polish out the surface. Unlike preparing an iron to etch with nitric acid, the surface wants to have a highly reflective mirror-like surface before etching. As we say in the article, however, every meteorite is different and can react differently to different circumstances, so he may have just had an unusual, but uncommon, experience. He may have a very different experience with a different Campo. (I have many Ferric-etched slices of Campos in my personal collection and they are all doing well.) Ron Hartman E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) Database version: 6.14900 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: etching with radio shack etchant
Aloha Ron, Since reading the article and you and your son wrote, I have used nothing but Ferric Chloride to etch my irons. Your directions were very thorough. A few months ago I etched a Campo that I resurrected from a rusty graveyard and it produced a gorgeous pattern using FC. Of course after sanding, I polished it before etching. Don't let one sour grape get at you--especially since he didn't follow your directions correctly. Even though it's been eight years since your article was published, I want to say "thank you" to you and Jim for your contribution to the field; It gave me the confidence to etch my own irons...and with stunning results! Matthew Quoting R N Hartman : I was just browsing through some of the posts on Joes Skyrockcafe website when I ran across a post from a collector who was unhappy with the Radio Shack etchant for iron meteorites. He claims to have sanded a Campo down to #400 but could not get a Widmanstatten pattern, although he did get a beautiful pattern using the traditional Nitric method. My son, Jim, and I posted an article in the November 2002 issue of the Meteorite Times about preparing and etching irons using Ferric Chloride (which is the same material as used in the Radio Shack etchant). The method has been used widely since that time with outstanding success by many and with superior results, so there is now an undisputed 8 year positive history. Etches show more contrast and subtle details come out more readily, and fears of ferric chloride use have been put to rest as the specimens are not rusting and crumbling. In fact, they do just as well if not better than when etched with nitric. (But that is a topic for another day.) I think the problem of the person in posting his negative experience was that after grinding down to a #400 grit that he did not then polish out the surface. Unlike preparing an iron to etch with nitric acid, the surface wants to have a highly reflective mirror-like surface before etching. As we say in the article, however, every meteorite is different and can react differently to different circumstances, so he may have just had an unusual, but uncommon, experience. He may have a very different experience with a different Campo. (I have many Ferric-etched slices of Campos in my personal collection and they are all doing well.) Ron Hartman E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) Database version: 6.14900 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Flight Oriented WI Meteorite
After having it pointed out by a friend and re-examining the stone I've noticed this meteorite exhibits multiple or "Dual" rollover lips, one completely follows the full circumference of the trailing edge of the stone, the other is visible on the leading face of the stone where it stayed in orientation just long enough to produce some nice lipping on the side of the nose cone. Both instances of lipping are clearly vivsible in the photos... (link is below in original email) Contact me for price and to make an offer. Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA Quoting e...@meteoritesusa.com: I'm taking offers on this gorgeous 18.3g Flight Oriented Wisconsin meteorite. http://www.meteoritesusa.com/wi-meteorite.html I may have only ONE other stone and some fragments available, so call 760-522-2152 or email me for details. The rest I'm keeping for my collection... Stones are NOT easy to come by, and forget about the rumors you guys are hearing. There has NOT been 10 kilos recovered from this meteorite fall! We're here and know exactly how and why those rumors were started. Enjoy... Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] pics of slices coming in the AM,
Hi Joe and List, I have a few choice words for whoever called the university and tried to make trouble for you. But for once, I will bite my tongue and not say those words in public. I will say that if you know the identity of the person who did it, contact me via email - I want to make sure that I never do any business or trading with this person again. Of course, I would wager that this person is one of those judgemental types who wouldn't do business with the "likes of me" in the first place. Best regards, MikeG On 5/3/10, Joe Kerchner wrote: > I want to thank everyone for all of the kind kind words. It makes me > feel much better. > I also just want to make sure everyone knows that > the U of W DID NOT cut this stone. I do not want anymore trouble caused > over this. I cant believe it happened in the first place. We both lost > out. Me and the U, they were going to get a nice donation. They can > thank the members who called and bit#$%! them out over it. The guys I > talked to up there were very nice and very helpful. I still may donate a > slice of a few grams to them. They have very very little material from > this fall, they should have more, there is no doubt. > Thanks again for all of the kind words from everyone, you all know who you > are, there > are too many to list right now, but THANKS!! > and I will be posting > the pics soon. I am on my way to the schools here in town to show all > the kids my endpiece and let some actually touch what they seen fly > through the sky. I can't wait to see how they react, I have already > shared it with some classes and have been asked to come back and share > with the rest of them, this is really cool for me. > > Best Wishes, > Joe Kerchner > http://illinoismeteorites.com > http://skyrockcafe.com > > > > - Original Message > From: Paul G. Spears > To: Joe Kerchner > Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 10:14:01 AM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] pics of slices coming in the AM, > > You have done well, Joe. It is your call; ignore the egotistical, arrogant, > and overbearing jerks who try to make the world their fiefdom. I have > walked the miles in the heat and weather, slept in the wind and cold and > rain, and I know you earned it. > Regards, > Paul > > > -- > From: "Joe Kerchner" > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 11:45 PM > To: "meteorite list" > Subject: [meteorite-list] pics of slices coming in the AM, > >> Sorry for the delay, I got very very busy today and was not around last >> night. Ill post the pics of the slices in the AM. >> I got it sliced even tho a couple list members tried very hard to stop it, >> a couple even contacted the University that was going to do it for me and >> complained, caused a big stink and got people in trouble for offering to >> help. People need to get out there and find their own pieces, and then >> they can worry about cutting it or not cutting it. After they walk nearly >> 200 miles and hunt for over 100hrs and spend lots of money on the hunt. >> Then we will see what they want to do with their only find. >> For me I wanted really bad to keep a piece, that find meant a whole lot >> to me, but I am not able to afford to keep the entire piece in my >> collection, I am struggling for $$ right now being laid off and having 4 >> kids. I need the $$ but really want to keep a piece of it. The only way to >> do that is to have it sliced. >> I am sure there will be a larger piece found, if not already. I know of >> another 300+gr stone found already. >> >> Best Wishes, >> Joe Kerchner >> http://illinoismeteorites.com >> http://skyrockcafe.com >> >> >> >> >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: etching with radio shack etchant
I have also used ferric chloride on a Campo with good results. It is easier and less hazardous to use than nital. Dave --- On Mon, 5/3/10, R N Hartman wrote: > From: R N Hartman > Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: etching with radio shack etchant > To: "Meteorite Central" > Cc: "Meteorite1" > Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 3:44 AM > I was just browsing through some of > the posts on Joes Skyrockcafe website when I ran across a > post from a collector who was unhappy with the Radio Shack > etchant for iron meteorites. He claims to have sanded > a Campo down to #400 but could not get a Widmanstatten > pattern, although he did get a beautiful pattern using the > traditional Nitric method. > > My son, Jim, and I posted an article in the November 2002 > issue of the Meteorite Times about preparing and etching > irons using Ferric Chloride (which is the same material as > used in the Radio Shack etchant). The method has been > used widely since that time with outstanding success by many > and with superior results, so there is now an undisputed 8 > year positive history. Etches show more contrast and > subtle details come out more readily, and fears of ferric > chloride use have been put to rest as the specimens are not > rusting and crumbling. In fact, they do just as well > if not better than when etched with nitric. (But that is a > topic for another day.) > > I think the problem of the person in posting his negative > experience was that after grinding down to a #400 grit that > he did not then polish out the surface. Unlike > preparing an iron to etch with nitric acid, the surface > wants to have a highly reflective mirror-like surface before > etching. As we say in the article, however, every > meteorite is different and can react differently to > different circumstances, so he may have just had an unusual, > but uncommon, experience. He may have a very different > experience with a different Campo. (I have many > Ferric-etched slices of Campos in my personal collection and > they are all doing well.) > > Ron Hartman > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) > Database version: 6.14900 > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] pics of slices coming in the AM,
I want to thank everyone for all of the kind kind words. It makes me feel much better. I also just want to make sure everyone knows that the U of W DID NOT cut this stone. I do not want anymore trouble caused over this. I cant believe it happened in the first place. We both lost out. Me and the U, they were going to get a nice donation. They can thank the members who called and bit#$%! them out over it. The guys I talked to up there were very nice and very helpful. I still may donate a slice of a few grams to them. They have very very little material from this fall, they should have more, there is no doubt. Thanks again for all of the kind words from everyone, you all know who you are, there are too many to list right now, but THANKS!! and I will be posting the pics soon. I am on my way to the schools here in town to show all the kids my endpiece and let some actually touch what they seen fly through the sky. I can't wait to see how they react, I have already shared it with some classes and have been asked to come back and share with the rest of them, this is really cool for me. Best Wishes, Joe Kerchner http://illinoismeteorites.com http://skyrockcafe.com - Original Message From: Paul G. Spears To: Joe Kerchner Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 10:14:01 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] pics of slices coming in the AM, You have done well, Joe. It is your call; ignore the egotistical, arrogant, and overbearing jerks who try to make the world their fiefdom. I have walked the miles in the heat and weather, slept in the wind and cold and rain, and I know you earned it. Regards, Paul -- From: "Joe Kerchner" Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 11:45 PM To: "meteorite list" Subject: [meteorite-list] pics of slices coming in the AM, > Sorry for the delay, I got very very busy today and was not around last > night. Ill post the pics of the slices in the AM. > I got it sliced even tho a couple list members tried very hard to stop it, a > couple even contacted the University that was going to do it for me and > complained, caused a big stink and got people in trouble for offering to > help. People need to get out there and find their own pieces, and then they > can worry about cutting it or not cutting it. After they walk nearly 200 > miles and hunt for over 100hrs and spend lots of money on the hunt. Then we > will see what they want to do with their only find. > For me I wanted really bad to keep a piece, that find meant a whole lot to > me, but I am not able to afford to keep the entire piece in my collection, I > am struggling for $$ right now being laid off and having 4 kids. I need the > $$ but really want to keep a piece of it. The only way to do that is to have > it sliced. > I am sure there will be a larger piece found, if not already. I know of > another 300+gr stone found already. > > Best Wishes, > Joe Kerchner > http://illinoismeteorites.com > http://skyrockcafe.com > > > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Off topic . . . please forgive me!
LOL. Gracie, you are forgiven. That was funny. :) Has anyone ever seen Page and Kaku together in the same room at the same time? Hmmm On 5/3/10, gracie wrote: > . . . But I thought a couple of you might appreciate this. > > I've been watching a lot of the Science channel lately and I can't help > but notice an eerie resemblance between my favorite theoretical physicist > and . . . well, you know. Please to enjoy this graphic I made from > internet photos. > > http://www.sheverb.com/kakupagesm.jpg > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt.
Hey Bill, List, Did you bother to talk to Sonny and ask him anything or are you assuming he'd never been on that land? Perhaps he'd already had previous permission? I don't know... But to attack Sonny so brashly and call him names PUBLICLY that are completely out of character for him, seems to me to be much more rude than him walking past you in the field... Need I mention that I drew you a map, literally where X marked the spot of the area where a NICE stone was found on the small end where I knew there were most likely more pieces and so a good chance you might make a find or two. Yet there was no reciprocation at all from you... Who's greedy Bill? The one who ignores you, or the one who holds his information even after information is shared with him? By the way, I'll keep "pumpin" the lack of material too. Until there's more confirmed, it's ALL rumor! Regards, Eric Quoting bill kies : Well, I just returned from my third trip with 12 days walking on cobbs and I have to say that the most pathetic display of rude bs was that of Sonny what's his name. The man pulled up his truck, looked through us like we were non-exixtant ignoring the fact, as we protested, that we had previous permission to search the property in question. Sonny was so aggressive that he didn't even notice that one of our team members was a 77 year old man that was the Patriarch of the family that owned the land. He ignored us and hauled ass straight up to the front door trying to conive his way in. Nice work Sonny. You deserve a big pat on the back. You belong in Georgia. You're a real inspiration to us all you greedy S*B. Bill PS: Keep pumping the lack of material. Time will tell. To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 00:37:00 -0400 From: wahlpe...@aol.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt. Hi All, I just returned from my second hunt in Wisconsin. I hunted a total of 9 days in the field. I really enjoyed spending time with the other hunters and got to know some of the locals too. Without a doubt, Wisconsin is the friendliest state I have ever visited. Everyone would invite you into their homes, also allow you to hunt for meteorites on their property. I even had a chance to milk a cow. I want to say thanks to Rob Matson and Mark Fries for the great work with the Doppler Radar. Terry Boudreaux and Karl Aston played a major role in gaining access to hunt many of the properties. These 2 guys are awesome. What really made this trip enjoyable was spending time with everyone hunting. After 9 days of hunting I was able to find 3 meteorites, one with the assistance of Brix (my dog) and the other 2 on my second trip out. The total of my finds is 366.4 grams. I hope to post pictures from the hunt on my website within the next week. The rumors of many stones being recovered is simply not true. Out of 6 guys hunting for 4 days( covering a lot of ground ) only 2 stones were recovered. On the previous hunt with 10 guys hunting only 4 stones were recovered. By far, the best complete stone I have seen is Rob Wesel's. Another kudo's goes out to Joe Kerchner for his magnificent find. Eric Wichman also made some outstanding finds. Many of the fields are now being plowed and planted. Further recovery of meteorites is becoming more difficult. It would be nice to compile a list of everyone's finds to determine the TKW so far. Good luck to all of the guys that are still out in the field. Sonny __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt.
Wow Bill, you really seem to remember the chain of events much differently than I do. As I remember it was late in the day with little time left to hunt. As we pulled up there was a gentleman on an ATV, 2 guys standing at the back of a truck talking, and one guy leaning over a car talking thru the passenger window to the driver. As I approached the guy on the ATV I asked whose land it was, the man I spoke to WAS the PATRIARCH of the land. We joked about me riding on the back of his ATV and how much he would charge me per hour to drive around in his son's cornfield. He then suggested that I go talk to his son at the house at the bottom of the hill and ask for permission for my friends and I to hunt the land. As I was walking away you approached us and said Hi. We introduced ourselves ,I shook your hand. We then drove down to the bottom of the hill to talk to the landowner. The landowner greeted us and said "You can hunt this land all you want". We discussed a 50/50 split of the finds and a dollar amount per gram for his half if we were lucky enough to find any. He then explained the property boundaries and wished us luck. Bill you have to remember this was late in the day and we only had an hour and a half left of sunlight. We only wanted to hunt the small corner of the property to plan the next days hunt. You have to understand we spent thousands of dollars to come and do this hunt between airfare, rent a car and hotel. We were on a mission to get as much done as possible in a few short days. We are also working on mapping the finds and at the end will present the map to the University. Time was of the essence that evening. Bill , you would also think that when we returned the following morning we were greeted by BOTH THE FATHER AND THE SON and spent a few minutes joking around. At this point I am sure they would have said something if it was such a big deal. It is up to the landowners who they allow to hunt their property, not you. Bill as with this post and with the history of some of your other posts to the list you can understand why we did not spend a lot of time talking with you. Your bad reputation precedes you. Also for all of the meteorites that you are saying are being recovered please enlighten me. So for the 12 days you and your team spent out there please let us know how many kilos you recovered. There is no doubt that there may be a lot of material in the field but it is yet be found. With the planting going on there is a good chance the material may be lost forever. And as for Georgia, you're right my heart belongs to Georgia. Sonny -Original Message- From: bill kies To: wahlpe...@aol.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 10:33 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt. Well, I just returned from my third trip with 12 days walking on cobbs and I have to say that the most pathetic display of rude bs was that of Sonny what's his name. The man pulled up his truck, looked through us like we were non-exixtant ignoring the fact, as we protested, that we had previous permission to search the property in question. Sonny was so aggressive that he didn't even notice that one of our team members was a 77 year old man that was the Patriarch of the family that owned the land. He ignored us and hauled ass straight up to the front door trying to conive his way in. Nice work Sonny. You deserve a big pat on the back. You belong in Georgia. You're a real inspiration to us all you greedy S*B. Bill PS: Keep pumping the lack of material. Time will tell.> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 00:37:00 -0400> From: wahlpe...@aol.com> Subject: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt.>> Hi All,>> I just returned from my second hunt in Wisconsin. I hunted a total of 9> days in the field. I really enjoyed spending time with the other> hunters and got to know some of the locals too.> Without a doubt, Wisconsin is the friendliest state I have ever> visited. Everyone would invite you into their homes, also allow you to> hunt for meteorites on their property. I even had> a chance to milk a cow. I want to say thanks to Rob Matson and Mark> Fries for the great work with the Doppler Radar. Terry Boudreaux and> Karl Aston played a major role in gaining> access to hunt many of the properties. These 2 guys are awesome. What> really made this trip enjoyable was spending time with everyone> hunting. After 9 days of hunting I was able> to find 3 meteorites, one with the assistance of Brix (my dog) and the> other 2 on my second trip out. The total of my finds is 366.4 grams. I> hope to post pictures from the hunt on my> website within the next week. The rumors of many stones being recovered> is simply not true. Out of 6 guys hunting for 4 days( covering a lot of> ground ) only 2 stones were recovered.> On the previous h
Re: [meteorite-list] Boy Scout meteorite display
Hi Fred and all, Outstanding amount of people who came for the event and glad you were able to have a hands on display which I am sure touched more than several of the scouts and their parents. In a day and age that kids seem to be staring into the computer screen and not bothering with much else, it nice to know there are good kids that are getting out and learning about the real world. To touch a piece of outer space and be connected to another world is such an exciting thing that will stay with some of those kids and adults for a long time. Good luck on next years display! --AL Mitterling - Original Message - From: To: "meteorite list" Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 10:32 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Boy Scout meteorite display Hello List, I just got the totals for my Meteorite Display at the Boy Scout day at Dinosaur Ridge in Denver. One Thousand and Eight Hundred (1,800) Cub and Boy Scouts with many of their family members came to work on their astronomy and geology merit badges. I didn't have a chance to talk to every one but I was very busy for over six hours. I had nice fresh Allende, Thuathe, regmaglypted Sikhote, Sikhote schrapnal, Gibeon slices, Toluca etched end cut, NWA 869, Wells Creek shattercones, Libyan Desert Glass, Phillipianite tektite, Vredefort impact melt breccia, Canyon Diablo individual and spheroids, and slices of a NWA L3 chondrite, Johnstown Diogenite, and NWA 047 Eucrite. The kids loved the opportunity to get a hands on experience with real meteorites. I am already planning a bigger and better display for next year. Best Regards, Fred Olsen __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] wis met and sonny
Hi Steve and all, Good to have you back after leaving the list. --AL Mitterling - Forwarded Message From: steve arnold To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, April 21, 2010 7:45:24 PM Subject: a final goodbye to everyone Hello list.I knew someday this day would come.I am hanging it up as a meteorite collecter and a very bad met hunter.After 12 years I am leaving meteorites with my head held high.I will be leaving alot of great friends and a hand full of assholes,but better with alot than the latter.I have sold off my entire main collection.That is the collection where I had at home.I'll continue to have my private primary collection put away,so I'll be into meteorites.I have also closed my website.I will also be unsubscribing from the met list next month.So I will pass away into the night without a whimper.I'll miss everyone,but I look forward to enjoying my life with my wife and now happily again being DEBT free which is a great feeling.Also I'll miss giving away freebies,but I really enjoyed those times.I hope all who benefitted from those were happy as well.Well there is not much more to say.I wished I could have found some of those new stones last weekend.The lord is pointing me into a new phase of my life so I look with determination as to what will be like.Good luck to everyone and I hope you all find the finds of a lifetime.It has been a hell of a ride.Good luck and god bless to everyone.This time it's for good. Steve R.Arnold,Chicago,il the first Steve Arnold - Original Message - From: "steve arnold" To: Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 7:12 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] wis met and sonny Good morning list. I have been just around everyone who has ever owned a meteorite in our little community. And without a doubt sonny clary is one of the nicest people I've ever met. When I was in vegas 3 years ago,he came to our hotel and picked me up and took me to his home to see his collection.Even offered me a beer. He and his wife are really good people. Everytime I've been to tucson he is just so nice.I do not know how anyone could say anything bad about him. And joe you are right. What you do with your find is your biz,no one else's. I hope to be going back up there real soon. Being 2 and half hours from there makes it easy to go right back home than stay to get a motel. Again congrats to all who have found meteorites. Steve Arnold __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] pics of slices coming in the AM,
Joe and Listers, Congrats on your find. To be able to experience this is something that some of us on the List look forward to or have already experienced, and thank you for sharing your story with us on the List Joe :). As for cutting up your WI meteorite find, all I can say is do what you please, because the bottom line is at the end of the day, your family and you come first. Me personally, I feel by cutting this meteorite allows you to share your story with the meteorite community and not just one or two people if you had kept the meteorite whole or cut it in half. I feel that some of the collectors on the List that stress that cutting meteorites is wrong might have a good point. if that's how they collect, but there are many ways to collect meteorites, not just there way, which seems elitist to me. Keep it alive Joe and thank you for sharing your experience with the List and allowing List members/collectors/the science community the opportunity to own a piece of history and your story from the WI meteorite fall. Shawn Alan eBayshop http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340 [meteorite-list] pics of slices coming in the AM,Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteorites at yahoo.com Mon May 3 02:45:52 EDT 2010 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt. Next message: [meteorite-list] pics of slices coming in the AM, Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Sorry for the delay, I got very very busy today and was not around last night. Ill post the pics of the slices in the AM. I got it sliced even tho a couple list members tried very hard to stop it, a couple even contacted the University that was going to do it for me and complained, caused a big stink and got people in trouble for offering to help. People need to get out there and find their own pieces, and then they can worry about cutting it or not cutting it. After they walk nearly 200 miles and hunt for over 100hrs and spend lots of money on the hunt. Then we will see what they want to do with their only find. For me I wanted really bad to keep a piece, that find meant a whole lot to me, but I am not able to afford to keep the entire piece in my collection, I am struggling for $$ right now being laid off and having 4 kids. I need the $$ but really want to keep a piece of it. The only way to do that is to have it sliced. I am sure there will be a larger piece found, if not already. I know of another 300+gr stone found already. Best Wishes, Joe Kerchner http://illinoismeteorites.com http://skyrockcafe.com Previous message: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt. Next message: [meteorite-list] pics of slices coming in the AM, Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] wis met and sonny
Good morning list. I have been just around everyone who has ever owned a meteorite in our little community. And without a doubt sonny clary is one of the nicest people I've ever met. When I was in vegas 3 years ago,he came to our hotel and picked me up and took me to his home to see his collection.Even offered me a beer. He and his wife are really good people. Everytime I've been to tucson he is just so nice.I do not know how anyone could say anything bad about him. And joe you are right. What you do with your find is your biz,no one else's. I hope to be going back up there real soon. Being 2 and half hours from there makes it easy to go right back home than stay to get a motel. Again congrats to all who have found meteorites. Steve Arnold __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Off topic . . . please forgive me!
. . . But I thought a couple of you might appreciate this. I've been watching a lot of the Science channel lately and I can't help but notice an eerie resemblance between my favorite theoretical physicist and . . . well, you know. Please to enjoy this graphic I made from internet photos. http://www.sheverb.com/kakupagesm.jpg __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: etching with radio shack etchant
I was just browsing through some of the posts on Joes Skyrockcafe website when I ran across a post from a collector who was unhappy with the Radio Shack etchant for iron meteorites. He claims to have sanded a Campo down to #400 but could not get a Widmanstatten pattern, although he did get a beautiful pattern using the traditional Nitric method. My son, Jim, and I posted an article in the November 2002 issue of the Meteorite Times about preparing and etching irons using Ferric Chloride (which is the same material as used in the Radio Shack etchant). The method has been used widely since that time with outstanding success by many and with superior results, so there is now an undisputed 8 year positive history. Etches show more contrast and subtle details come out more readily, and fears of ferric chloride use have been put to rest as the specimens are not rusting and crumbling. In fact, they do just as well if not better than when etched with nitric. (But that is a topic for another day.) I think the problem of the person in posting his negative experience was that after grinding down to a #400 grit that he did not then polish out the surface. Unlike preparing an iron to etch with nitric acid, the surface wants to have a highly reflective mirror-like surface before etching. As we say in the article, however, every meteorite is different and can react differently to different circumstances, so he may have just had an unusual, but uncommon, experience. He may have a very different experience with a different Campo. (I have many Ferric-etched slices of Campos in my personal collection and they are all doing well.) Ron Hartman E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) Database version: 6.14900 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] pics of slices coming in the AM,
For God's sake Joe, Quit apologizing for doing what you want to do with your own find. You didn't steal it, or con somebody out of it, you put your sweat and treasure into finding it legally and above board. It's yours and I resent what you are being put through because of your honestly and openly telling us about the find and your decision as to it's disposition. I hope you and your boys had a wonderful time together pulling off a successful hunt and that it will always be happily remembered. I personally thank you for making it possible for those of us who couldn't afford the time, or the money, to hunt the fall to have an opportunity to purchase a specimen at a reasonable price. When I hold I hold it in my hands, I will think of it's origin, it's journey through time and space to the earth and you and your children being the ecstatic finders. You took some of the meteorite from your hand and put it in mine so I could share. Thank you. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Joe Kerchner >Sent: May 3, 2010 2:45 AM >To: meteorite list >Subject: [meteorite-list] pics of slices coming in the AM, > >Sorry for the delay, I got very very busy today and was not around last night. >Ill post the pics of the slices in the AM. >I got it sliced even tho a couple list members tried very hard to stop it, a >couple even contacted the University that was going to do it for me and >complained, caused a big stink and got people in trouble for offering to help. >People need to get out there and find their own pieces, and then they can >worry about cutting it or not cutting it. After they walk nearly 200 miles and >hunt for over 100hrs and spend lots of money on the hunt. Then we will see >what they want to do with their only find. > For me I wanted really bad to keep a piece, that find meant a whole lot to > me, but I am not able to afford to keep the entire piece in my collection, I > am struggling for $$ right now being laid off and having 4 kids. I need the > $$ but really want to keep a piece of it. The only way to do that is to have > it sliced. >I am sure there will be a larger piece found, if not already. I know of >another 300+gr stone found already. > > Best Wishes, >Joe Kerchner >http://illinoismeteorites.com >http://skyrockcafe.com > > > > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt.
Joe, I related the story exactly as it happened. Maybe you should re-read my original post in an effort to understand it. If my composition was unclear contact me off-list and I will explain. Bill > Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 23:33:18 -0700 > From: skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt. > > bill & List, > > Bill, That was very uncalled for. > I very much disagree. > Sonny was one of the nicest guys I have ever met in my life. I learnt a lot > from him and He was very helpful kind to everyone he met( I was with him when > he met quite a few people, both hunters and locals). He was really good to me > from the first second I met him. I hunted with him and it was one of the > highlights of my hunt. I hope I am able to hunt with him again. He was very > helpful to me and this was the first time I ever met him. You though maybe he > already had permission? What did you expect from him? A big warm hug? A pat > on the back? I dont understand your last post, I kinda unnerves me. I thought > you were better than that? > > Best Wishes, > Joe Kerchner > http://illinoismeteorites.com > http://skyrockcafe.com > > > > - Original Message > From: bill kies > To: wahlpe...@aol.com > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 12:33:21 AM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt. > > > Well, > > I just returned from my third trip with 12 days walking on cobbs and I have > to say that the most pathetic display of rude bs was that of Sonny what's his > name. The man pulled up his truck, looked through us like we were > non-exixtant ignoring the fact, as we protested, that we had previous > permission to search the property in question. > > Sonny was so aggressive that he didn't even notice that one of our team > members was a 77 year old man that was the Patriarch of the family that owned > the land. He ignored us and hauled ass straight up to the front door trying > to conive his way in. > > Nice work Sonny. You deserve a big pat on the back. You belong in Georgia. > You're a real inspiration to us all you greedy S*B. > > Bill > > PS: > > Keep pumping the lack of material. Time will tell. > > > > > > > >> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 00:37:00 -0400 >> From: wahlpe...@aol.com >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt. >> >> Hi All, >> >> I just returned from my second hunt in Wisconsin. I hunted a total of 9 >> days in the field. I really enjoyed spending time with the other >> hunters and got to know some of the locals too. >> Without a doubt, Wisconsin is the friendliest state I have ever >> visited. Everyone would invite you into their homes, also allow you to >> hunt for meteorites on their property. I even had >> a chance to milk a cow. I want to say thanks to Rob Matson and Mark >> Fries for the great work with the Doppler Radar. Terry Boudreaux and >> Karl Aston played a major role in gaining >> access to hunt many of the properties. These 2 guys are awesome. What >> really made this trip enjoyable was spending time with everyone >> hunting. After 9 days of hunting I was able >> to find 3 meteorites, one with the assistance of Brix (my dog) and the >> other 2 on my second trip out. The total of my finds is 366.4 grams. I >> hope to post pictures from the hunt on my >> website within the next week. The rumors of many stones being recovered >> is simply not true. Out of 6 guys hunting for 4 days( covering a lot of >> ground ) only 2 stones were recovered. >> On the previous hunt with 10 guys hunting only 4 stones were recovered. >> By far, the best complete stone I have seen is Rob Wesel's. Another >> kudo's goes out to Joe Kerchner for his >> magnificent find. Eric Wichman also made some outstanding finds. >> >> Many of the fields are now being plowed and planted. Further recovery >> of meteorites is becoming more difficult. It would be nice to compile a >> list of everyone's finds to determine the TKW >> so far. >> >> >> Good luck to all of the guys that are still out in the field. >> >> Sonny >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > _ > The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with > Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://s
