Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone here eaten meteorites?
Yes, indeed! Bob Haag had a mortar and pestle in which he pulverized crumbs of NWA 482 (I believe, but if not it was another Lunar) into powder. He would have guests to his vault (which was larger than most houses) put a finger into the mortar and then lick off a bit of dust. I think I much preferred other seasonings as it was remarkably tasteless. Ron Hartman - Original Message - From: "Richard Montgomery" To: "Melanie Matthews" ; "Meteorite List" Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone here eaten meteorites? Gosh, there're a batch of NWA OCs in my collection that might taste good, but, I've never thought about it beforeis this a challenge to resurrect the Deli-meats breccia question? - Original Message - From: "Melanie Matthews" To: "Meteorite List" Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 8:05 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Anyone here eaten meteorites? Hi, Crazy question.. Has anyone on the list ever (purposely) ingested bits of meteoritic material? How did it taste? --- -Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone here eaten meteorites?
Actually Rob has gone one step further than eating them with his infamous Murchison "Pinky" tattoo: http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com/catalog/murchtat.htm Any super-powers yet Rob? ;-) Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: "Rob Wesel" To: "Melanie Matthews" ; "Meteorite List" Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone here eaten meteorites? Hi Melanie, all All too often, even have some the consistency of cornstarch for use in cocktails. They taste like dirt as one might expect. Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: "Melanie Matthews" To: "Meteorite List" Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 8:05 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Anyone here eaten meteorites? Hi, Crazy question.. Has anyone on the list ever (purposely) ingested bits of meteoritic material? How did it taste? --- -Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] First attempt at photographing thin sections
I had some free time tonight so I cut a few pieces of some plastic polarizing filter I had and used them on our biological microscope. I had picked up a few low priced thin sections at this past year's Tucson shows. For a first ever attempt at photographing thin sections in cross polarized light, I think I've done an ok. job. I've uploaded my first 5 to an album on Facebook. Below is a link that should be accessible even if you don't have a FB account. http://tinyurl.com/27uj6tk I haven't yet calibrated my field of view yet, so at the moment I can't offer the scale of the features in the images. Sorry. I'd appreciate any tips or advice the experts are willing offer to help make future images better. Thanks -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone here eaten meteorites?
Hello List, Actually Rob forgot to mention that one of the times we were hunting this last year he popped my first find, of the trip, in his mouth and swallowed it. Thankfully I had a few more finds! Hoping that one hurt a little bit, Jason Phillips Rocks from Heaven www.rocksfromheaven.com --- On Mon, 10/4/10, Rob Wesel wrote: > From: Rob Wesel > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone here eaten meteorites? > To: "Melanie Matthews" , "Meteorite List" > > Date: Monday, October 4, 2010, 11:12 PM > Hi Melanie, all > > All too often, even have some the consistency of cornstarch > for use in > cocktails. > > They taste like dirt as one might expect. > > Rob Wesel > www.nakhladogmeteorites.com > www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites > www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel > -- > We are the music makers... > and we are the dreamers of the dreams. > Willy Wonka, 1971 > > > - Original Message - > From: "Melanie Matthews" > To: "Meteorite List" > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 8:05 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] Anyone here eaten meteorites? > > > Hi, > Crazy question.. Has anyone on the list ever (purposely) > ingested bits of > meteoritic material? How did it taste? > > > --- > -Melanie > IMCA: 2975 > eBay: metmel2775 > Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 > > I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400
Official Announcement NWA 6077 IS PAIRED WITH NWA 5400 North West Africa 6077 Description: An olivine-rich assemblage with cumulate (or possibly metamorphic) texture exhibiting triple junction grain boundaries. Olivine (Fa30.2-30.7), orthopyroxene (Fs24.1-24.5Wo2.1-2.0), clinopyroxene (Fs9.4-10.0Wo44.0-43.5), altered kamacite, chromite, chlorapatite, Ni-bearing troilite and/or pyrrhotite. No plagioclase was found. Analysis conducted at the Carnegie Institution of Washington show that the oxygen isotopic composition of this specimen plots on the Terrestrial Fractionation Line. In conjunction with the mineral compositions and texture, this establishes that NWA 6077 is paired with NWA 5400. The averages of the two Oxygen Isotope Results are: d17O = 2.780, d18O = 5.358, D17O = -0.019 (all in per mil) This brachinite was recovered out of Morocco in 2008 as one whole stone and purchased by John Higgins. It was submitted for classification to Dr. Tony Irving and was given the provisional classification number of NWA 6077. This meteorite has a modest TKW of less than 1000g after the type specimen was removed. Personal Notes: Although I suspected that the two were possibly paired due to similarities in visual observations and classification compositions, I felt it was important to wait for secondary Oxygen Isotope results to come in which have recently confirmed the results beyond a reasonable doubt. There was also another important factor besides Oxygen Isotope testing that had to be taken into account. Orthopyroxene which is present in NWA 5400 was missed the first time around in NWA 6077 because it looks identical to clinopyroxene in back-scattered electron images. However further in-depth microprobe studies of the thin section have confirmed the presence of orthopyroxene, and are now noted in the updated description. I feel that making a self pairing based upon my own visual observations, is not only unethical, inappropriate, and akin to pirating, but would only feed the controversies regarding this meteorite without the scientific testing data to back up such speculation, such action would be premature, immoral and unfair to Greg Hupe and NWA 5400 after all the time and effort he put into the study of what has become one of the most important meteorite finds in history. Have a Great Day! John Higgins IMCA#9822 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] First attempt at photographing thin sections
Absolutely wonderful! Every one should take a look. Very well done! Now that you have jumped on this train you are in for quite a ride. Given your photography skills, you will soon be amazing us all. My tip. Now that you have seen what can be done, loose the plastic polarizing film. Buy cheap glass camera polarizes or sacrifice a couple you already have lying around. Cut them to size with your rock saw (Any diamond blade, water cooled tile saw will do). You will enjoy your time spent much more. Tom In a message dated 10/5/2010 4:01:59 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, damoc...@yahoo.com writes: I had some free time tonight so I cut a few pieces of some plastic polarizing filter I had and used them on our biological microscope. I had picked up a few low priced thin sections at this past year's Tucson shows. For a first ever attempt at photographing thin sections in cross polarized light, I think I've done an ok. job. I've uploaded my first 5 to an album on Facebook. Below is a link that should be accessible even if you don't have a FB account. http://tinyurl.com/27uj6tk I haven't yet calibrated my field of view yet, so at the moment I can't offer the scale of the features in the images. Sorry. I'd appreciate any tips or advice the experts are willing offer to help make future images better. Thanks -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - 112 Items
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[meteorite-list] New Meteorite Cratering Book
Dear List: I received notice of this new book on cratering. It's a little pricey at $112.92, but here's the link if you're interested: http://www.geolsoc.org.uk/page8278.html Anita __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400
List: This is amazing; is it possible that all of these (NWA 5400, 5363, 6292 and 6077) are from the same strewn field? Greg S. > Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 06:26:05 -0700 > From: geohigg...@yahoo.com > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA > 5400 > > Official Announcement > > NWA 6077 IS PAIRED WITH NWA 5400 > > North West Africa 6077 Description: > An olivine-rich assemblage with cumulate (or possibly metamorphic) texture > exhibiting triple junction grain boundaries. Olivine (Fa30.2-30.7), > orthopyroxene (Fs24.1-24.5Wo2.1-2.0), clinopyroxene (Fs9.4-10.0Wo44.0-43.5), > altered kamacite, chromite, chlorapatite, Ni-bearing troilite and/or > pyrrhotite. > No plagioclase was found. Analysis conducted at the Carnegie Institution of > Washington show that the oxygen isotopic composition of this specimen plots on > the Terrestrial Fractionation Line. In conjunction with the mineral > compositions > and texture, this establishes that NWA 6077 is paired with NWA 5400. > > The averages of the two Oxygen Isotope Results are: > d17O = 2.780, d18O = 5.358, D17O = -0.019 (all in per mil) > > This brachinite was recovered out of Morocco in 2008 as one whole stone and > purchased by John Higgins. It was submitted for classification to Dr. Tony > Irving and was given the provisional classification number of NWA 6077. This > meteorite has a modest TKW of less than 1000g after the type specimen was > removed. > > Personal Notes: Although I suspected that the two were possibly paired due to > similarities in visual observations and classification compositions, I felt it > was important to wait for secondary Oxygen Isotope results to come in which > have > recently confirmed the results beyond a reasonable doubt. There was also > another > important factor besides Oxygen Isotope testing that had to be taken into > account. Orthopyroxene which is present in NWA 5400 was missed the first time > around in NWA 6077 because it looks identical to clinopyroxene in > back-scattered > electron images. However further in-depth microprobe studies of the thin > section > have confirmed the presence of orthopyroxene, and are now noted in the updated > description. I feel that making a self pairing based upon my own > visual observations, is not only unethical, inappropriate, and akin to > pirating, > but would only feed the controversies regarding this meteorite without the > scientific testing data to back up such speculation, such action would be > premature, immoral and unfair to Greg Hupe and NWA 5400 after all the time and > effort he put into the study of what has become one of the most important > meteorite finds in history. > > Have a Great Day! > John Higgins > IMCA#9822 > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400
Its great that there is such a nice amount of this material when considering all the pairings... With over 10kg of this material in pairings known so far, I am willing to bet there is likely a good amount more still. I bet the Brachinties are coming out of the woodwork to be tested. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Tue, 10/5/10, John higgins wrote: > From: John higgins > Subject: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA > 5400 > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 9:26 AM > Official Announcement > > NWA 6077 IS PAIRED WITH NWA 5400 > > North West Africa 6077 Description: > An olivine-rich assemblage with cumulate (or possibly > metamorphic) texture > exhibiting triple junction grain boundaries. Olivine > (Fa30.2-30.7), > orthopyroxene (Fs24.1-24.5Wo2.1-2.0), clinopyroxene > (Fs9.4-10.0Wo44.0-43.5), > altered kamacite, chromite, chlorapatite, Ni-bearing > troilite and/or pyrrhotite. > No plagioclase was found. Analysis conducted at the > Carnegie Institution of > Washington show that the oxygen isotopic composition of > this specimen plots on > the Terrestrial Fractionation Line. In conjunction with the > mineral compositions > and texture, this establishes that NWA 6077 is paired with > NWA 5400. > > The averages of the two Oxygen Isotope Results are: > d17O = 2.780, d18O = 5.358, D17O = -0.019 (all in per mil) > > This brachinite was recovered out of Morocco in 2008 as > one whole stone and > purchased by John Higgins. It was submitted for > classification to Dr. Tony > Irving and was given the provisional classification number > of NWA 6077. This > meteorite has a modest TKW of less than 1000g after the > type specimen was > removed. > > Personal Notes: Although I suspected that the two were > possibly paired due to > similarities in visual observations and classification > compositions, I felt it > was important to wait for secondary Oxygen Isotope results > to come in which have > recently confirmed the results beyond a reasonable doubt. > There was also another > important factor besides Oxygen Isotope testing that had > to be taken into > account. Orthopyroxene which is present in NWA 5400 was > missed the first time > around in NWA 6077 because it looks identical to > clinopyroxene in back-scattered > electron images. However further in-depth > microprobe studies of the thin section > have confirmed the presence of orthopyroxene, and are > now noted in the updated > description. I feel that making a self pairing based upon > my own > visual observations, is not only unethical, inappropriate, > and akin to pirating, > but would only feed the controversies regarding this > meteorite without the > scientific testing data to back up such speculation, such > action would be > premature, immoral and unfair to Greg Hupe and NWA 5400 > after all the time and > effort he put into the study of what has become one of the > most important > meteorite finds in history. > > Have a Great Day! > John Higgins > IMCA#9822 > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad: special sale on Shiny Gold Cubes ( I orderd to many) :)
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Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400
Greg Catterton, I would be very cautious with throwing loose words around "like considering all the pairings" As far as I know NWA 6077 is the only whole stone other than NWA 6292 of which is very fragmented that has conclusively been paired through testing and subsequent testing to NWA 5400, from what I understand most of the others are purely conjecture, or speculative without the extensive testing completed or in various stages of testing... I think our focus should be on the Science and authenticity of claims before you start making bets and psychic predictions about how much more material is paired to this very special and important meteorite. Regardless of what you think, and however hard you try to knock this meteorite for TKW, of what may or may not come to fruition, this meteorite is priceless to Science. I don't understand what the focus on TKW boils down to other than monetary value or jealousy, this meteorite truly transcends price. And I think the focus should be on the science of what this meteorite can teach us about our past. And possibly give us clues to the future. NWA 6077 is a Meteorite that has most likely come from the mantle of a planet, which one? The Oxygen Isotope results suggest one like our own planet Earth. Even if there are 10kg or more, this meteorite is from the mantle of a planet that is similar to our own and comes from a place in time that does not exist anymore. I hope we can, as a community become more productive with our time and focus on figuring out what the meteorite parent body is and what the conditions are that existed when it materialized. I suggest we shift the emphasis to the scientific study rather than putting such a great focus on prematurely rushing TKW statistics, that can only be revealed only after many more years of scientific studies. Regards, John Higgins IMCA# 9822 - Original Message From: Greg Catterton To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; John higgins Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 12:01:35 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400 Its great that there is such a nice amount of this material when considering all the pairings... With over 10kg of this material in pairings known so far, I am willing to bet there is likely a good amount more still. I bet the Brachinties are coming out of the woodwork to be tested. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Tue, 10/5/10, John higgins wrote: > From: John higgins > Subject: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA >5400 > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 9:26 AM > Official Announcement > > NWA 6077 IS PAIRED WITH NWA 5400 > > North West Africa 6077 Description: > An olivine-rich assemblage with cumulate (or possibly > metamorphic) texture > exhibiting triple junction grain boundaries. Olivine > (Fa30.2-30.7), > orthopyroxene (Fs24.1-24.5Wo2.1-2.0), clinopyroxene > (Fs9.4-10.0Wo44.0-43.5), > altered kamacite, chromite, chlorapatite, Ni-bearing > troilite and/or pyrrhotite. > No plagioclase was found. Analysis conducted at the > Carnegie Institution of > Washington show that the oxygen isotopic composition of > this specimen plots on > the Terrestrial Fractionation Line. In conjunction with the > mineral compositions > and texture, this establishes that NWA 6077 is paired with > NWA 5400. > > The averages of the two Oxygen Isotope Results are: > d17O = 2.780, d18O = 5.358, D17O = -0.019 (all in per mil) > > This brachinite was recovered out of Morocco in 2008 as > one whole stone and > purchased by John Higgins. It was submitted for > classification to Dr. Tony > Irving and was given the provisional classification number > of NWA 6077. This > meteorite has a modest TKW of less than 1000g after the > type specimen was > removed. > > Personal Notes: Although I suspected that the two were > possibly paired due to > similarities in visual observations and classification > compositions, I felt it > was important to wait for secondary Oxygen Isotope results > to come in which have > recently confirmed the results beyond a reasonable doubt. > There was also another > important factor besides Oxygen Isotope testing that had > to be taken into > account. Orthopyroxene which is present in NWA 5400 was > missed the first time > around in NWA 6077 because it looks identical to > clinopyroxene in back-scattered > electron images. However further in-depth > microprobe studies of the thin section > have confirmed the presence of orthopyroxene, and are > now noted in the updated > description. I feel that making a self pairing based upon > my own > visual observations, is not only unethical, inappropriate, > and akin to pirating, > but would only feed the controversies regar
Re: [meteorite-list] First attempt at photographing thin sections
Nice job, Richard. I understand that one should only use linear polarizers and that most camera polarizers are circular. So, be careful with what you use. Perhaps Tom Phillips can shed some light on the differences in polarizers. Dave --- On Tue, 10/5/10, Richard Kowalski wrote: > From: Richard Kowalski > Subject: [meteorite-list] First attempt at photographing thin sections > To: "meteorite list" > Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 6:01 AM > I had some free time tonight so I cut > a few pieces of some plastic polarizing filter I had and > used them on our biological microscope. I had picked up a > few low priced thin sections at this past year's Tucson > shows. For a first ever attempt at photographing thin > sections in cross polarized light, I think I've done an ok. > job. > > I've uploaded my first 5 to an album on Facebook. Below is > a link that should be accessible even if you don't have a FB > account. > > http://tinyurl.com/27uj6tk > > I haven't yet calibrated my field of view yet, so at the > moment I can't offer the scale of the features in the > images. Sorry. > > I'd appreciate any tips or advice the experts are willing > offer to help make future images better. > > Thanks > > -- > Richard Kowalski > Full Moon Photography > IMCA #1081 > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400
Wow... First off, NWA 5363 HAS been confirmed paired, as well as 6292 and yours. I think YOU should check your facts before calling me out like you are. A simple search of the metbul shows the REPORTED TKW of the material and simple math will show you the TKW of material that is in the 5363/5400/6077/6292 pairing group. Please do not publicly accuse me of things when YOU are the one who is not up to date with information and you do not have the facts correct. I have no interests in this material other then as a collector. I am not selling any of the material from any pairings. Why do you feel the need to come at me like you did? There is a nice amount of this available. I expect an apology for your comments as you are out of line and clearly in the wrong. ALL I STATED IS FACTS. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Tue, 10/5/10, John higgins wrote: > From: John higgins > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with > NWA 5400 > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 1:12 PM > Greg Catterton, > > I would be very cautious with throwing loose words around > "like considering all > the pairings" > As far as I know NWA 6077 is the only whole stone other > than NWA 6292 of which > is very fragmented that has conclusively been paired > through testing and > subsequent testing to NWA 5400, from what I understand most > of the others are > purely conjecture, or speculative without the extensive > testing completed or in > various stages of testing... > I think our focus should be on the Science and authenticity > of claims before you > start making bets and psychic predictions about how much > more material is paired > to this very special and important meteorite. > > > Regardless of what you think, and however hard you try to > knock this meteorite > for TKW, of what may or may not come to fruition, this > meteorite is priceless to > Science. I don't understand what the focus on TKW boils > down to other than > monetary value or jealousy, this meteorite truly transcends > price. And I think > the focus should be on the science of what this meteorite > can teach us about our > past. And possibly give us clues to the future. NWA 6077 is > a Meteorite that has > most likely come from the mantle of a planet, which one? > The Oxygen Isotope > results suggest one like our own planet Earth. Even if > there are 10kg or more, > this meteorite is from the mantle of a planet that is > similar to our own and > comes from a place in time that does not exist anymore. I > hope we can, as a > community become more productive with our time and focus on > figuring out what > the meteorite parent body is and what the conditions are > that existed when it > materialized. I suggest we shift the emphasis to the > scientific study rather > than putting such a great focus on prematurely rushing TKW > statistics, that can > only be revealed only after many more years of scientific > studies. > > Regards, > John Higgins > IMCA# 9822 > > > > - Original Message > From: Greg Catterton > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; > John higgins > Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 12:01:35 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA > 6077 is Paired with NWA > 5400 > > Its great that there is such a nice amount of this material > when considering all > the pairings... With over 10kg of this material in pairings > known so far, I am > willing to bet there is likely a good amount more still. > I bet the Brachinties are coming out of the woodwork to be > tested. > > Greg Catterton > www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com > IMCA member 4682 > On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites > On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites > > > --- On Tue, 10/5/10, John higgins > wrote: > > > From: John higgins > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA > 6077 is Paired with NWA > >5400 > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 9:26 AM > > Official Announcement > > > > NWA 6077 IS PAIRED WITH NWA 5400 > > > > North West Africa 6077 Description: > > An olivine-rich assemblage with cumulate (or possibly > > metamorphic) texture > > exhibiting triple junction grain boundaries. Olivine > > (Fa30.2-30.7), > > orthopyroxene (Fs24.1-24.5Wo2.1-2.0), clinopyroxene > > (Fs9.4-10.0Wo44.0-43.5), > > altered kamacite, chromite, chlorapatite, Ni-bearing > > troilite and/or pyrrhotite. > > No plagioclase was found. Analysis conducted at the > > Carnegie Institution of > > Washington show that the oxygen isotopic composition > of > > this specimen plots on > > the Terrestrial Fractionation Line. In conjunction > with the > > mineral compositions > > and texture, this establishes that NWA 607
Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400
Congratulations John, It is great to hear that you really appreciate what this meteorite represents. I do not have any financial interest whatsoever in this rare and scientifically valuable find. I am surprised at the most reasonable price it is being offered for. Even if several more kilograms is confirmed, it is extremely rare; millions of times rare than diamonds and infinitely more important as far as I am concerned. One just has to look at the GRA stones found in Antarctica that were once mistakenly thought to plot on the TFL. The scientific community was scampering to get pieces of it after the press was misinformed about were they plotted. Now the real deal has shown up and from Northwest Africa, unquestionably the most important source for scientifically important new meteorites the last decade. Appreciate these meteorites while you can because new finds are being made at a mere trickle compared to five years ago in both Antarctica and Northwest Africa. Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thumbs Up Given for 2013 NASA Mars Orbiter (Maven)
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2010-323 Thumbs Up Given for 2013 NASA Mars Orbiter Jet Propulsion Laboratory October 05, 2010 PASADENA, Calif. -- NASA has given a green light for development of a 2013 Mars orbiter mission to investigate the mystery of how Mars lost much of its atmosphere: the Mars Atmosphere and Volatile Evolution (Maven) mission. Clues on the Martian surface, such as features resembling dry riverbeds and minerals that only form in the presence of liquid water, suggest that Mars once had a denser atmosphere, which supported the presence of liquid water on the surface. As part of a dramatic climate change, most of the Martian atmosphere was lost. Maven will make definitive scientific measurements of present-day atmospheric loss that will offer insight into the Red Planet's history. Approval to proceed with development followed a review at NASA Headquarters of the detailed plans, instrument suite, budget, and risk factor analysis for the spacecraft. The mission is led by its principal investigator, Bruce Jakosky of the Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics at the University of Colorado, Boulder. NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md., manages the mission, which is part of the NASA Mars Exploration Program managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] EPOXI 'E-Minus' One Month To Comet Hartley 2 Flyby
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2010-321 NASA Mission 'E-Minus' One Month to Comet Flyby Jet Propulsion Laboratory October 04, 2010 PASADENA, Calif. - Fans of space exploration are familiar with the term T-minus, which NASA uses as a countdown to a rocket launch. But what of those noteworthy mission events where you already have a spacecraft in space, as with the upcoming flyby of a comet? "We use 'E-minus' to help with our mission planning," said Tim Larson, EPOXI mission project manager at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. "The 'E' stands for encounter, and that is exactly what is going to happen one month from today, when our spacecraft has a close encounter with comet Hartley 2." The EPOXI mission's Nov. 4 encounter with Hartley 2 will be only the fifth time in history that a comet has been imaged close-up. At point of closest approach, the spacecraft will be about 700 kilometers (435 miles) from the comet. "Hartley 2 better not blink, because we'll be screaming by at 12.3 kilometers per second (7.6 miles per second), said Larson. One month out, the spacecraft is closing the distance with the comet at a rate of 976,000 kilometers (607,000 miles) per day. As it gets closer, the rate of closure will increase to a little over 1,000,000 kilometers (620,000 miles) per day. For those interested in what the "T-minus" stands for in a NASA countdown to a rocket launch - it translates to "Time-minus." For example, when a rocket is getting ready for liftoff, it will be lifting off at a specific time. If that time is 45 seconds away, it is said to be "T-minus 45 seconds and counting." EPOXI is an extended mission that utilizes the already "in-flight" Deep Impact spacecraft to explore distinct celestial targets of opportunity. The name EPOXI itself is a combination of the names for the two extended mission components: the extrasolar planet observations, called Extrasolar Planet Observations and Characterization (EPOCh), and the flyby of comet Hartley 2, called the Deep Impact Extended Investigation (DIXI). The spacecraft will continue to be referred to as "Deep Impact." NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., manages the EPOXI mission for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington. The University of Maryland, College Park, is home to the mission's principal investigator, Michael A'Hearn. Drake Deming of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md., is the science lead for the mission's extrasolar planet observations. The spacecraft was built for NASA by Ball Aerospace & Technologies Corp., Boulder, Colo. For more information about EPOXI visit http://epoxi.umd.edu/ . DC Agle 818-393-9011 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. a...@jpl.nasa.gov 2010-321 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400
A higher TKW then I had calculated... This meteorite and its pairings while representing something spectacular (which NOBODY will dispute) and has also shown something very sad and disappointing... 2 IMCA members openly attacking 2 other IMCA members over comments that turned out to be correct and accurate. A meteorite list that shows the vile monetary based nature of meteorites in relation to this pairing group with rude and unwarranted comments tossed about. People who love meteorites, for money, science, food(?), whatever... going at it like school kids. Why do I even stay a member of this list? I see why so many have left or simply dont ever post. You guys need to take a step back and look at what we do here on this PUBLIC list. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Tue, 10/5/10, cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: > From: cdtuc...@cox.net > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with > NWA 5400 > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, "John higgins" > , "Greg" > Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 1:36 PM > The following is a list of the > official pairings and approximate TKW so far for this > amazing Brachinite-like meteorite > > NWA 5400. 4280. grams > NWA 6292. 725. grams. > NWA 6077. 1000. grams > NWA 5363 7985. grams. > > Total. 13,990. > grams. > > > -- > Carl or Debbie Esparza > Meteoritemax > > > John higgins > wrote: > > Greg Catterton, > > > > I would be very cautious with throwing loose words > around "like considering all > > the pairings" > > As far as I know NWA 6077 is the only whole stone > other than NWA 6292 of which > > is very fragmented that has conclusively been paired > through testing and > > subsequent testing to NWA 5400, from what I understand > most of the others are > > purely conjecture, or speculative without the > extensive testing completed or in > > various stages of testing... > > I think our focus should be on the Science and > authenticity of claims before you > > start making bets and psychic predictions about how > much more material is paired > > to this very special and important meteorite. > > > > > > Regardless of what you think, and however hard you try > to knock this meteorite > > for TKW, of what may or may not come to fruition, this > meteorite is priceless to > > Science. I don't understand what the focus on TKW > boils down to other than > > monetary value or jealousy, this meteorite truly > transcends price. And I think > > the focus should be on the science of what this > meteorite can teach us about our > > past. And possibly give us clues to the future. NWA > 6077 is a Meteorite that has > > most likely come from the mantle of a planet, which > one? The Oxygen Isotope > > results suggest one like our own planet Earth. Even if > there are 10kg or more, > > this meteorite is from the mantle of a planet that is > similar to our own and > > comes from a place in time that does not exist > anymore. I hope we can, as a > > community become more productive with our time and > focus on figuring out what > > the meteorite parent body is and what the conditions > are that existed when it > > materialized. I suggest we shift the emphasis to the > scientific study rather > > than putting such a great focus on prematurely rushing > TKW statistics, that can > > only be revealed only after many more years of > scientific studies. > > > > Regards, > > John Higgins > > IMCA# 9822 > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Greg Catterton > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; > John higgins > > Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 12:01:35 PM > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement > NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA > > 5400 > > > > Its great that there is such a nice amount of this > material when considering all > > the pairings... With over 10kg of this material in > pairings known so far, I am > > willing to bet there is likely a good amount more > still. > > I bet the Brachinties are coming out of the woodwork > to be tested. > > > > Greg Catterton > > www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com > > IMCA member 4682 > > On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites > > On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/5/10, John higgins > wrote: > > > > > From: John higgins > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement > NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA > > >5400 > > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 9:26 AM > > > Official Announcement > > > > > > NWA 6077 IS PAIRED WITH NWA 5400 > > > > > > North West Africa 6077 Description: > > > An olivine-rich assemblage with cumulate (or > possibly > > > metamorphic) texture > > > exhibiting triple junction grain boundaries. > Olivine >
Re: [meteorite-list] First attempt at photographing thin sections
Hi Dave and list. I often work with circular polarizers as well as linier polarizers. Not to mention full and 1/4 wave retardation filters. Don't avoid the circular polarizers. When you invert them they function as a linier polarizer. My main Xpol scope (An aus Jena Fluoval) has SunPack Circular polarizers on it right now and they are a quality camera filter that can be found (often quite cheep in odd sizes) on eBay. For extreme extinction (black when full crossed transmitted light is viewed) like what is needed for subtle changes in reflectance viewed in incident light. I use a Glan/Thopson style mined calcite prism polarizer. I use this technique on an aus Jena Neophot. The Gold Basin image set on my micrograph gallery shows off this effect well. Please check it out. The results are quite unlike any thing most people are accustomed to. http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/articles/gold_basin/ Any polarizers are useful. I have even used the filters striped out of non functioning Sony PS3 disk readers. I wrote a Meteorite Times article on that. The film polarizers are a great start but they distort the image when used in the analyzer position. Tom In a message dated 10/5/2010 11:29:31 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, dfpen...@yahoo.com writes: Nice job, Richard. I understand that one should only use linear polarizers and that most camera polarizers are circular. So, be careful with what you use. Perhaps Tom Phillips can shed some light on the differences in polarizers. Dave --- On Tue, 10/5/10, Richard Kowalski wrote: > From: Richard Kowalski > Subject: [meteorite-list] First attempt at photographing thin sections > To: "meteorite list" > Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 6:01 AM > I had some free time tonight so I cut > a few pieces of some plastic polarizing filter I had and > used them on our biological microscope. I had picked up a > few low priced thin sections at this past year's Tucson > shows. For a first ever attempt at photographing thin > sections in cross polarized light, I think I've done an ok. > job. > > I've uploaded my first 5 to an album on Facebook. Below is > a link that should be accessible even if you don't have a FB > account. > > http://tinyurl.com/27uj6tk > > I haven't yet calibrated my field of view yet, so at the > moment I can't offer the scale of the features in the > images. Sorry. > > I'd appreciate any tips or advice the experts are willing > offer to help make future images better. > > Thanks > > -- > Richard Kowalski > Full Moon Photography > IMCA #1081 > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400
NWA 5363 needs to be updated on the Bulletin Greg S. > Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 10:48:19 -0700 > From: star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; geohigg...@yahoo.com; > cdtuc...@cox.net > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with > NWA 5400 > > A higher TKW then I had calculated... > > This meteorite and its pairings while representing something spectacular > (which NOBODY will dispute) and has also shown something very sad and > disappointing... > > 2 IMCA members openly attacking 2 other IMCA members over comments that > turned out to be correct and accurate. > > A meteorite list that shows the vile monetary based nature of meteorites in > relation to this pairing group with rude and unwarranted comments tossed > about. > > People who love meteorites, for money, science, food(?), whatever... going at > it like school kids. > Why do I even stay a member of this list? I see why so many have left or > simply dont ever post. > > You guys need to take a step back and look at what we do here on this PUBLIC > list. > > > Greg Catterton > www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com > IMCA member 4682 > On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites > On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites > > > --- On Tue, 10/5/10, cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: > > > From: cdtuc...@cox.net > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with > > NWA 5400 > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, "John higgins" , "Greg" > > Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 1:36 PM > > The following is a list of the > > official pairings and approximate TKW so far for this > > amazing Brachinite-like meteorite > > > > NWA 5400. 4280. grams > > NWA 6292.725. grams. > > NWA 6077. 1000. grams > > NWA 5363 7985. grams. > > > > Total. 13,990. > > grams. > > > > > > -- > > Carl or Debbie Esparza > > Meteoritemax > > > > > > John higgins > > wrote: > > > Greg Catterton, > > > > > > I would be very cautious with throwing loose words > > around "like considering all > > > the pairings" > > > As far as I know NWA 6077 is the only whole stone > > other than NWA 6292 of which > > > is very fragmented that has conclusively been paired > > through testing and > > > subsequent testing to NWA 5400, from what I understand > > most of the others are > > > purely conjecture, or speculative without the > > extensive testing completed or in > > > various stages of testing... > > > I think our focus should be on the Science and > > authenticity of claims before you > > > start making bets and psychic predictions about how > > much more material is paired > > > to this very special and important meteorite. > > > > > > > > > Regardless of what you think, and however hard you try > > to knock this meteorite > > > for TKW, of what may or may not come to fruition, this > > meteorite is priceless to > > > Science. I don't understand what the focus on TKW > > boils down to other than > > > monetary value or jealousy, this meteorite truly > > transcends price. And I think > > > the focus should be on the science of what this > > meteorite can teach us about our > > > past. And possibly give us clues to the future. NWA > > 6077 is a Meteorite that has > > > most likely come from the mantle of a planet, which > > one? The Oxygen Isotope > > > results suggest one like our own planet Earth. Even if > > there are 10kg or more, > > > this meteorite is from the mantle of a planet that is > > similar to our own and > > > comes from a place in time that does not exist > > anymore. I hope we can, as a > > > community become more productive with our time and > > focus on figuring out what > > > the meteorite parent body is and what the conditions > > are that existed when it > > > materialized. I suggest we shift the emphasis to the > > scientific study rather > > > than putting such a great focus on prematurely rushing > > TKW statistics, that can > > > only be revealed only after many more years of > > scientific studies. > > > > > > Regards, > > > John Higgins > > > IMCA# 9822 > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > > From: Greg Catterton > > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; > > John higgins > > > Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 12:01:35 PM > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement > > NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA > > > 5400 > > > > > > Its great that there is such a nice amount of this > > material when considering all > > > the pairings... With over 10kg of this material in > > pairings known so far, I am > > > willing to bet there is likely a good amount more > > still. > > > I bet the Brachinties are coming out of the woodwork > > to be tested. > > > > > > Greg Catterton > > > www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com > > > IMCA member 4682 > > > On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites > > > On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStar
Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400
Greg, I must disagree with you completely... No one is "attacking" you personally. John is NOT out of line. He seems to be up to date on the facts regarding the pairings of the stones. Nothing he said that I can see is incorrect, however your attack on him seems rather "harsh". I feel your comment is irresponsible, scientifically and personally. Your comment: "...With over 10kg of this material in pairings known so far, I am willing to bet there is likely a good amount more still. I bet the Brachinties are coming out of the woodwork to be tested" Possible, but the SCIENCE is more important than conjecture and feelings. Regards, Eric On 10/5/2010 10:30 AM, Greg Catterton wrote: Wow... First off, NWA 5363 HAS been confirmed paired, as well as 6292 and yours. I think YOU should check your facts before calling me out like you are. A simple search of the metbul shows the REPORTED TKW of the material and simple math will show you the TKW of material that is in the 5363/5400/6077/6292 pairing group. Please do not publicly accuse me of things when YOU are the one who is not up to date with information and you do not have the facts correct. I have no interests in this material other then as a collector. I am not selling any of the material from any pairings. Why do you feel the need to come at me like you did? There is a nice amount of this available. I expect an apology for your comments as you are out of line and clearly in the wrong. ALL I STATED IS FACTS. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Tue, 10/5/10, John higgins wrote: From: John higgins Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 1:12 PM Greg Catterton, I would be very cautious with throwing loose words around "like considering all the pairings" As far as I know NWA 6077 is the only whole stone other than NWA 6292 of which is very fragmented that has conclusively been paired through testing and subsequent testing to NWA 5400, from what I understand most of the others are purely conjecture, or speculative without the extensive testing completed or in various stages of testing... I think our focus should be on the Science and authenticity of claims before you start making bets and psychic predictions about how much more material is paired to this very special and important meteorite. Regardless of what you think, and however hard you try to knock this meteorite for TKW, of what may or may not come to fruition, this meteorite is priceless to Science. I don't understand what the focus on TKW boils down to other than monetary value or jealousy, this meteorite truly transcends price. And I think the focus should be on the science of what this meteorite can teach us about our past. And possibly give us clues to the future. NWA 6077 is a Meteorite that has most likely come from the mantle of a planet, which one? The Oxygen Isotope results suggest one like our own planet Earth. Even if there are 10kg or more, this meteorite is from the mantle of a planet that is similar to our own and comes from a place in time that does not exist anymore. I hope we can, as a community become more productive with our time and focus on figuring out what the meteorite parent body is and what the conditions are that existed when it materialized. I suggest we shift the emphasis to the scientific study rather than putting such a great focus on prematurely rushing TKW statistics, that can only be revealed only after many more years of scientific studies. Regards, John Higgins IMCA# 9822 - Original Message From: Greg Catterton To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; John higgins Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 12:01:35 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400 Its great that there is such a nice amount of this material when considering all the pairings... With over 10kg of this material in pairings known so far, I am willing to bet there is likely a good amount more still. I bet the Brachinties are coming out of the woodwork to be tested. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Tue, 10/5/10, John higgins wrote: From: John higgins Subject: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 9:26 AM Official Announcement NWA 6077 IS PAIRED WITH NWA 5400 North West Africa 6077 Description: An olivine-rich assemblage with cumulate (or possibly metamorphic) texture exhibiting triple junction grain boundaries. Olivine (Fa30.2-30.7), orthopyroxene (Fs24.1-24
[meteorite-list] An 18th century depiction of a meteor
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Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400
> No one is "attacking" you personally. John is NOT out of line. Comments such as he made when addressed to me is a direct attack on me and my remarks about the official TKW of pairings. > He seems to be up to date on the facts regarding the pairings of the stones Incorrect. There has been other confirmed pairings, just recently discussed on this list. > I feel your comment is irresponsible, scientifically and personally. Your comment: "...With over 10kg of this material in pairings known so far, I am willing to bet there is likely a good amount more still. I bet the Brachinties are coming out of the woodwork to be tested" How? There is CONFIRMED to be OVER 13kg of this material paired. And yes, Brachinites are coming out of the woodwork. How is that comment "irresponsible, scientifically and personally." Its based on FACTS. So again, whats wrong with what I said? Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Tue, 10/5/10, Meteorites USA wrote: > From: Meteorites USA > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with > NWA 5400 > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 1:57 PM > Greg, I must disagree with you > completely... No one is "attacking" you personally. John is > NOT out of line. He seems to be up to date on the facts > regarding the pairings of the stones. Nothing he said that I > can see is incorrect, however your attack on him seems > rather "harsh". I feel your comment is irresponsible, > scientifically and personally. > > Your comment: "...With over 10kg of this material in > pairings known so far, I am willing to bet there is likely a > good amount more still. I bet the Brachinties are coming out > of the woodwork to be tested" > > Possible, but the SCIENCE is more important than conjecture > and feelings. > > Regards, > Eric > > > > On 10/5/2010 10:30 AM, Greg Catterton wrote: > > Wow... > > First off, NWA 5363 HAS been confirmed paired, as well > as 6292 and yours. > > > > I think YOU should check your facts before calling me > out like you are. > > A simple search of the metbul shows the REPORTED TKW > of the material and simple math will show you the TKW of > material that is in the 5363/5400/6077/6292 pairing group. > > > > Please do not publicly accuse me of things when YOU > are the one who is not up to date with information and you > do not have the facts correct. > > > > I have no interests in this material other then as a > collector. I am not selling any of the material from any > pairings. > > > > Why do you feel the need to come at me like you did? > There is a nice amount of this available. > > > > I expect an apology for your comments as you are out > of line and clearly in the wrong. > > ALL I STATED IS FACTS. > > > > Greg Catterton > > www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com > > IMCA member 4682 > > On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites > > On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/5/10, John higgins > wrote: > > > > > >> From: John higgins > >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Official > Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400 > >> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >> Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 1:12 PM > >> Greg Catterton, > >> > >> I would be very cautious with throwing loose words > around > >> "like considering all > >> the pairings" > >> As far as I know NWA 6077 is the only whole stone > other > >> than NWA 6292 of which > >> is very fragmented that has conclusively been > paired > >> through testing and > >> subsequent testing to NWA 5400, from what I > understand most > >> of the others are > >> purely conjecture, or speculative without the > extensive > >> testing completed or in > >> various stages of testing... > >> I think our focus should be on the Science and > authenticity > >> of claims before you > >> start making bets and psychic predictions about > how much > >> more material is paired > >> to this very special and important meteorite. > >> > >> > >> Regardless of what you think, and however hard you > try to > >> knock this meteorite > >> for TKW, of what may or may not come to fruition, > this > >> meteorite is priceless to > >> Science. I don't understand what the focus on TKW > boils > >> down to other than > >> monetary value or jealousy, this meteorite truly > transcends > >> price. And I think > >> the focus should be on the science of what this > meteorite > >> can teach us about our > >> past. And possibly give us clues to the future. > NWA 6077 is > >> a Meteorite that has > >> most likely come from the mantle of a planet, > which one? > >> The Oxygen Isotope > >> results suggest one like our own planet Earth. > Even if > >> there are 10kg or more, > >> this meteorite is from the mantle of a planet that > is > >> simila
Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400
Hi, (Ooopsie... I almost was tempted, to write, that I vaguely remember a kind of an angry school kid, and something about a royal angrite and before with a part of a known lunaite. Forgive me ;-). Hey wouldn't it be interesting, if someone here on the list, would have a fine link at hand to a graph with the Terrestrial Fractionation Line and where therein the different meteorite types plot, for the not yet so experienced list members knowing, why that material is so special&interesting? Perhaps with a few words of explanations? Any of the grand list pedagogues? Sterling? Btw. what happened to Mr.Vesta MexicoDoug, who was also an excellent tutor and one of the best explainers of the list? Best! Martin (We're too busy at the moment, with another one, which plots close to the TFL. No worries, completely different type.) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Greg Catterton Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Oktober 2010 19:48 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; John higgins; cdtuc...@cox.net Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400 A higher TKW then I had calculated... This meteorite and its pairings while representing something spectacular (which NOBODY will dispute) and has also shown something very sad and disappointing... 2 IMCA members openly attacking 2 other IMCA members over comments that turned out to be correct and accurate. A meteorite list that shows the vile monetary based nature of meteorites in relation to this pairing group with rude and unwarranted comments tossed about. People who love meteorites, for money, science, food(?), whatever... going at it like school kids. Why do I even stay a member of this list? I see why so many have left or simply dont ever post. You guys need to take a step back and look at what we do here on this PUBLIC list. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] An 18th century depiction of a meteor
Darren, thanks for this link: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/houghton/2010/09/24/look-up-in-the-sky/ .. and while we are at it, there was an equally interesting article in the July 2010 issue of Sky & Telescope, pp. 28-33: Walt Whitman's Year of Meteors - Poem: Year of Meteors - 1833 Leonids? - 1858 Leonids? - 1859 Daylight Fireball? - Meteor Showers and Earth Grazers - Meteor Processions - July 20, 1860, Meteor Procession -- Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] First attempt at photographing thin sections
--- On Tue, 10/5/10, starsinthed...@aol.com wrote: > My tip. Now that you have seen what can be > done, loose the plastic > polarizing film. Buy cheap glass camera polarizes > or sacrifice a couple you > already have lying around. Cut them to size > with your rock saw (Any diamond > blade, water cooled tile saw will do). You will > enjoy your time spent much > more. > > Tom and --- On Tue, 10/5/10, David Pensenstadler wrote: > > I understand that one should only use linear polarizers and > that most camera polarizers are circular. So, be > careful with what you use. > > Perhaps Tom Phillips can shed some light on the differences > in polarizers. > > Dave Thanks to all of you who commented publicly and privately. I'll add a couple of comments to what I did as it was a bit unconventional but easily reproducible to others who have a biologic microscope at hand instead of a "proper" geologic or petrologic microscope at hand. I'll start off with the polarizer. Thans for the suggestion Tim. I'll have to look at obtaining some of this material. The polarizing sheet I have is a higher end linear polarizing sheet that I obtained for another photography project. I cut a piece that was larger than the aperture of my condenser and simply rest that on top of the condenser housing. This is the polarizer I am rotating to provide the cross polarization. The second polarizer is a small circle of the material that is placed inside the microscope, in an open area below the viewing head. This might have some purists shaking their heads, but it lets me use the instrument I have and as you can see, at this basic level it works. The trinocular microscope allows one to mount the camera, in my case a Canon 50D, directly on the microscope while leaving the binocular eyepieces available for watching the changing polarization and to find the most interesting patterns & colors and to easily find the more interesting or appealing areas on the specimen. The 50D has "live view" so I can make any final adjustments to position and focus on my computer screen before making the image. A few people have commented privately about the lack of focus around the edges. Unfortunately this is due to the nature of the objectives on my microscope. I plan on upgrading my objectives to what is known as "plan objectives" which provide better correction and flat fields as time & budget allow, so this should be less of an issue for my photography in the future. For those of you who have microscopes of any design, I'd suggest you give this a try. It's certainly an interesting exercise and even if you don't make any images, watching the changing patterns and colors of the samples is fascinating. Thanks again for your kind words and suggestions. Richard __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] First attempt at photographing thin sections
SUPERB! Eric On 10/5/2010 3:01 AM, Richard Kowalski wrote: I had some free time tonight so I cut a few pieces of some plastic polarizing filter I had and used them on our biological microscope. I had picked up a few low priced thin sections at this past year's Tucson shows. For a first ever attempt at photographing thin sections in cross polarized light, I think I've done an ok. job. I've uploaded my first 5 to an album on Facebook. Below is a link that should be accessible even if you don't have a FB account. http://tinyurl.com/27uj6tk I haven't yet calibrated my field of view yet, so at the moment I can't offer the scale of the features in the images. Sorry. I'd appreciate any tips or advice the experts are willing offer to help make future images better. Thanks -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400
Hi Martin and List, Here is the meteorite oxygen chart you requested: http://themeteoritesite.com/MeteoriteOxygen.jpg Enjoy, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400
Aloha Martin, list, Here is a photo of an O-isotope plot taken out page 39 of Robert Hutchinson's book Meteorites - A Petrologic, Chemical and Isotopic Synthesis: http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/Images/TFL.jpg gary On Oct 5, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Martin Altmann wrote: > Hi, > > (Ooopsie... I almost was tempted, to write, that I vaguely remember a kind > of an angry school kid, and something about a royal angrite and before with > a part of a known lunaite. Forgive me ;-). > > Hey wouldn't it be interesting, > if someone here on the list, would have a fine link at hand to a graph with > the Terrestrial Fractionation Line > and where therein the different meteorite types plot, for the not yet so > experienced list members knowing, why that material is so > special&interesting? > > Perhaps with a few words of explanations? > > Any of the grand list pedagogues? > > Sterling? > Btw. what happened to Mr.Vesta MexicoDoug, who was also an excellent tutor > and one of the best explainers of the list? > > Best! > Martin > > (We're too busy at the moment, with another one, which plots close to the > TFL. No worries, completely different type.) > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Greg > Catterton > Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Oktober 2010 19:48 > An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; John higgins; cdtuc...@cox.net > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with > NWA 5400 > > A higher TKW then I had calculated... > > This meteorite and its pairings while representing something spectacular > (which NOBODY will dispute) and has also shown something very sad and > disappointing... > > 2 IMCA members openly attacking 2 other IMCA members over comments that > turned out to be correct and accurate. > > A meteorite list that shows the vile monetary based nature of meteorites in > relation to this pairing group with rude and unwarranted comments tossed > about. > > People who love meteorites, for money, science, food(?), whatever... going > at it like school kids. > Why do I even stay a member of this list? I see why so many have left or > simply dont ever post. > > You guys need to take a step back and look at what we do here on this PUBLIC > list. > > > Greg Catterton > www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com > IMCA member 4682 > On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites > On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures]
Not at all, but David, the black stone in the Kaaba is the most mystical and mythic stone in existence! It must be immemorial. What else such stones come to our minds? The hub of the universe, the umbilicus mundi; the Holy Grail, whereof Wolfram wrote, that it is a stone; the philosopher's stone? All legends, also from the Baethyls from ancient times, only one was found, the stone of Paphos. The only such stone from the same mold, is the black stone in the Kaaba in Mecca. (And if you ask me and Herrn Meyer, it never should be analyzed, it shall be for all times an enigma!) Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von David Gunning Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Oktober 2010 08:11 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures] --- Original Message Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite miniatures From:"David Gunning" Date:Tue, October 5, 2010 2:10 am To: countde...@earthlink.net - Hi Count, There was no disrespect meant or implied in my comment about the pictures Martin posted. When confronted with an image that has no accompanying contextual message or association, the human mind tries to figure things-out as best it can. I believe it was "Carnac the Magnificent" who responded to the answer of the question, A: Chariots of the Gods, with the question: What were the only things allowed to move on Sunday in Ancient Persia? It appears you guys take yourselves extremely seriously. I can't help but wonder what the late, Great Jonny Carson might have thought about your apparent lack of humor. Dave Gunning Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite-Times October Issue Now Up ** NEW FORMAT**
Dear List, We have a very nice issue this month in our NEW format and have a few things to tell you about besides the new look. The Authors have some really great articles this month. Please have a look. We have a new monthly column called 'Galactic Lore' by Mike Gilmer. Welcome to the team Mike! Sergey Vasiliev, the master behind the Encyclopedia of Meteorites website has a new webservice that we are utilizing to bring in the latest 20 images that EoM members have added to the EoM website. This is located in our 'Meteorite News & Tweets' section. Stay up to date with our 'Meteorite News & Tweets' real time feeds for: * Expanded Meteorite News from Google * Meteoritical Bulletin News * Newest Images Added To EoM Website * Twitter: Meteorite * Twitter: Meteorite Men We have also converted the last 3 months to the new format. The new 'Search' function only works in the new format. Eventually we will have all back issues converted. We hope you enjoy both the articles and the new format! Paul and Jim Meteorite-Times Magazine http://www.meteorite-times.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Believed to Have Blasted Home in Central Java
Sounds a little fishy to me - but you never know. Greg S. http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/news/meteorite-believed-to-have-blasted-home-in-central-java/399827 Meteorite Believed to Have Blasted Home in Central Java October 05, 2010 Jakarta. The government is sending a team of scientists to investigate a suspected meteorite that struck a home in Karanganyar, Central Java, early on Monday. The blast was reported to have damaged the roof, kitchen and dining room in the home of Suryono in Ngringo village, but no injuries were reported. State news agency Antara reported that the impact produced a loud bang and shattered several windows in the house. The heat generated from the blast reportedly melted several plastic objects in the kitchen and left the metal tableware hot. An egg-sized rock retrieved from the roof is believed to be a remnant of a meteorite. On Tuesday, the National Aeronautics and Space Agency (Lapan) said it would send a team to the site today to investigate. Lapan spokeswoman Elly Kuntjahyowati said personnel from the Nuclear Energy Regulatory Agency (Bapeten) were already at the site on Tuesday to check for traces of radiation. She said the Lapan team would include Prof. Thomas Djamaluddin, the head of atmospheric sciences and chief of astronomy research at the space agency. “It was reported to us that the object in question is a chunk of black, scalding rock,” Elly said, adding the object had been removed from Suryono’s house and was being kept at the Central Java Police’s forensics lab. Rini Astuti, the head of the lab, said police were combing the site for any evidence from the blast, and had retrieved a 12-kilogram gas canister and the melted kitchen utensils to determine the degree of heat from the so-called meteorite. In April, a falling object damaged three homes in East Jakarta but caused no injuries. Although authorities failed to find conclusive evidence of what the object was, Lapan ruled that a meteorite strike was the most likely explanation. Last October, a mysterious explosion in Bone, South Sulawesi, was determined to have been a meteorite that hit the earth’s atmosphere at a mind-boggling 20.3 kilometers per second. According to Lapan’s Thomas, the blast released energy equal to 50 kilotons of TNT, more than three times the force of the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. A 9-year-old girl died of cardiac arrest after hearing the explosion, and shock waves damaged homes in Bone’s Panyula village. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Discovery Channel's All New Series, "Auction Kings, " Proves That One Man's Trash Is Another Man's Treasure
List: This sounds like an interesting show, especially for those who like "Pawn Stars" or "American Pickers," and alike. But notice, they are going to auction a meteorite - it appears meteorites are getting more and more publicity every day. And of course you got to love the "radioactive" part. Isn't the press just amazing; anything to get people to watch. Greg S. http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2010/10/04/discovery-channels-all-new-series-auction-kings-proves-that-one-mans-trash-is-another-mans-treasure-151558/20101004discovery04/ Discovery Channel's All New Series, "Auction Kings," Proves That One Man's Trash Is Another Man's Treasure Series to Premiere Tuesday, October 26 at 10 PM October 4, 2010 (Silver Spring, Md.) - From 19th century vampire hunting kits to softball-sized meteorites to jewel encrusted gold pencils, Discovery Channel's all new series AUCTION KINGS reveals to viewers a rare look at timeless items that take the audience back to historical moments, while giving them insight to the long-standing tradition of auctioning. The show captures the emotional journey of discovering one-of-a-kind riches - or disappointing rags - on Tuesdays at 10 PM ET/PT, starting October 26. AUCTION KINGS showcases one of the country's most storied auction houses, Gallery 63. Paul Brown is the owner. He grew up in Atlanta and worked for 20 years at Red Baron's, his dad's antique store and auction house, learning the art of selling and how to tell trash from treasure. Today, Gallery 63 is known for bizarre, high-end items. Paul has made a name for himself as the go-to guy for bidders looking for those one-of-a-kind pieces that can only be found inside his doors. Paul simultaneously manages his feisty staff, eager buyers and rare items like a circus under the big top. The bidders and sellers come from all walks of life, looking to make money, buy a unique piece or simply enjoy the excitement of winning. When bidding starts, the gloves come off and it's every buyer for himself. AUCTION KINGS is a roller coaster ride filled with thrills and distress, and you never know if it's the buyer or the seller who will get the deal. In the world premiere episode, a seller comes into Gallery 63 with a softball-sized meteorite from outer space. While he hopes to win enough money to take a second honeymoon to Paris, office manager Cindy hopes it isn't radioactive. Then a weapons collector brings in a vampire hunting kit from the 19th century that could go for big bucks - if it's legit. And Jon, the newest employee, is tasked with sifting through a house jam-packed with junk to find "auction gold." He locates a signed copy of Gone with the Wind and a genuine Nazi handbook from World War II. Or are they? AUCTION KINGS is produced for Discovery Channel by Authentic Entertainment, Inc. John Moffet is executive producer. For Discovery Channel, Chris Rantamaki is executive producer. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400
Hey Greg C., may you agree, that in meteoritics only that counts in the end: - the entry in the Bulletin - publication(s) by scientists - information, authorized by scientists to be released. Everything else are bona fide statements. To believe them or not to believe them, you have to leave to the meteorite people. Certainly much depends on the credibility and on the reputation of those, who make such bona fide statements. Also that you should leave to the individual people, whether they rely on the experience and the standing of the person. Or whether they think, that it is sheer speculation. Here we are still in the process of the scientific analyses of a meteorite itself, as well as of its suspected pairings. So I think, you can stay calm, like all others are now and show the patience necessary to wait for the results. Btw. I liked the way John introduced his NWA 6077 a lot. That is professionalism at its best. My personal 2 cents. Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Greg Catterton [mailto:star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Oktober 2010 20:54 An: Martin Altmann Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400 But keep in mind, the same people who questioned NWA 6291 being paired due to how it looked also said the same could not be done with this example. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400
Hi Carl, it's because on Gary's chart only the chondrite-groups are plotted, while on Adam's chart also achondrites are shown. Best! -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: cdtuc...@cox.net [mailto:cdtuc...@cox.net] Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Oktober 2010 21:03 An: Martin Altmann; Gary Fujihara Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400 Gary, This is interesting. I do not have a copy of this book you reference. This chart shows that EH and EL also plot along the TFL and omits the Aubrites. Whereas the link Adam provided shows Aubrites and Moon on that line at about the same place. Why do these charts differ? Thanks. Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Gary Fujihara wrote: > Aloha Martin, list, > > Here is a photo of an O-isotope plot taken out page 39 of Robert Hutchinson's > book Meteorites - A Petrologic, Chemical and Isotopic Synthesis: > > http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/Images/TFL.jpg > > gary > > On Oct 5, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Martin Altmann wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > (Ooopsie... I almost was tempted, to write, that I vaguely remember a kind > > of an angry school kid, and something about a royal angrite and before with > > a part of a known lunaite. Forgive me ;-). > > > > Hey wouldn't it be interesting, > > if someone here on the list, would have a fine link at hand to a graph with > > the Terrestrial Fractionation Line > > and where therein the different meteorite types plot, for the not yet so > > experienced list members knowing, why that material is so > > special&interesting? > > > > Perhaps with a few words of explanations? > > > > Any of the grand list pedagogues? > > > > Sterling? > > Btw. what happened to Mr.Vesta MexicoDoug, who was also an excellent tutor > > and one of the best explainers of the list? > > > > Best! > > Martin > > > > (We're too busy at the moment, with another one, which plots close to the > > TFL. No worries, completely different type.) > > > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > > [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Greg > > Catterton > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Oktober 2010 19:48 > > An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; John higgins; cdtuc...@cox.net > > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with > > NWA 5400 > > > > A higher TKW then I had calculated... > > > > This meteorite and its pairings while representing something spectacular > > (which NOBODY will dispute) and has also shown something very sad and > > disappointing... > > > > 2 IMCA members openly attacking 2 other IMCA members over comments that > > turned out to be correct and accurate. > > > > A meteorite list that shows the vile monetary based nature of meteorites in > > relation to this pairing group with rude and unwarranted comments tossed > > about. > > > > People who love meteorites, for money, science, food(?), whatever... going > > at it like school kids. > > Why do I even stay a member of this list? I see why so many have left or > > simply dont ever post. > > > > You guys need to take a step back and look at what we do here on this PUBLIC > > list. > > > > > > Greg Catterton > > www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com > > IMCA member 4682 > > On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites > > On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites > > > > > > > > __ > > Visit the Archives at > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > Gary Fujihara > Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) > 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 > http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ > http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html > (808) 640-9161 > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures]
I agree in general with Altmann & Meyer, only prefer "mystery" instead of enigma (which can be solved). And "Omphalos" instead of "umbilicus mundi", 'cause Delphi is Old Greece. Matthias - Original Message - From: "Martin Altmann" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures] Not at all, but David, the black stone in the Kaaba is the most mystical and mythic stone in existence! It must be immemorial. What else such stones come to our minds? The hub of the universe, the umbilicus mundi; the Holy Grail, whereof Wolfram wrote, that it is a stone; the philosopher's stone? All legends, also from the Baethyls from ancient times, only one was found, the stone of Paphos. The only such stone from the same mold, is the black stone in the Kaaba in Mecca. (And if you ask me and Herrn Meyer, it never should be analyzed, it shall be for all times an enigma!) Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von David Gunning Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Oktober 2010 08:11 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures] --- Original Message Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite miniatures From:"David Gunning" Date:Tue, October 5, 2010 2:10 am To: countde...@earthlink.net - Hi Count, There was no disrespect meant or implied in my comment about the pictures Martin posted. When confronted with an image that has no accompanying contextual message or association, the human mind tries to figure things-out as best it can. I believe it was "Carnac the Magnificent" who responded to the answer of the question, A: Chariots of the Gods, with the question: What were the only things allowed to move on Sunday in Ancient Persia? It appears you guys take yourselves extremely seriously. I can't help but wonder what the late, Great Jonny Carson might have thought about your apparent lack of humor. Dave Gunning Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400
List: I was wondering - is it possible that all of these are not really "paired" in the sense that they are not from the same main mass, but instead could be from the same planetary body - perhaps pre-earth or somewhere else? I find these meteorites to be very fascinating and I enjoy reading all the literature about them. It looks as though many questions need to be answered, and I look forward to more publications in the future. It's At times like this we should be celebrating within the meteorite community instead of all this pointless bickering and name calling. The meteorites are what the are, and nobody can change that. So let's let the scientists do their work and see what happens. Greg S. > Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 11:46:14 -0700 > From: raremeteori...@yahoo.com > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with > NWA 5400 > > Hi Martin and List, > > Here is the meteorite oxygen chart you requested: > > http://themeteoritesite.com/MeteoriteOxygen.jpg > > Enjoy, > > Adam > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] An 18th century depiction of a meteor
Yes, thanks Darren (Sandby), Bernd (Whitman) and Martin (Kaaba) for the links. Simply list of its best. Matthias - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 8:27 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] An 18th century depiction of a meteor Darren, thanks for this link: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/houghton/2010/09/24/look-up-in-the-sky/ .. and while we are at it, there was an equally interesting article in the July 2010 issue of Sky & Telescope, pp. 28-33: Walt Whitman's Year of Meteors - Poem: Year of Meteors - 1833 Leonids? - 1858 Leonids? - 1859 Daylight Fireball? - Meteor Showers and Earth Grazers - Meteor Processions - July 20, 1860, Meteor Procession -- Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400
Ok, what am I missing? NWA 5363 has been confirmed with a published TKW of 2455 grams. NWA 6292 has been confirmed with a published TKW of 725 grams. NWA 6077 has been confirmed with a published TKW of 1010 grams. All 3 above have been confirmed by scientists to be paired with NWA 5400 that has a published TKW of 4818 grams... Does that not make the "over 10kg" I originally stated, only to be "warned" about making assumptions of pairings that are already known and public on this list to be paired? Just ask Norbert of the IMCA... he has surely been swamped with work due to the drama over pairings to 5400. If you dont think the brachinites are coming out of the woodwork, ask Tony Irving or anyone else qualified to test such rare material, I am sure they will tell you it is. To be perfectly clear, I do not own any of this or the pairings for sale. I own NONE of 5363 and have no interest in 6077. I have a part slice of 5400 which I bought early and for 10x as much as what I got 6292 for. Im not mad, or upset. I bought early and thats a risk with doing so. All I did is comment on the TKW of the material and pairings and I was hit with comments concerning me and directed at me (Publicly) questioning my post and the claims I made to TKW. You can try to make me look like the bad guy here, but Im not and you wont. Martin wants to mention my angrite, and since Im on a roll... Was is not Adam Hupe himself who said my NWA 6291 did not look paired due to how it looked so much different then the samples he presented? What made that any different then others commenting on potential pairings of 5400? There is none other then who said it. People publicly questioned Tony Irvings data due to appearance. Plain and simple. Thats all I have to say about this. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Tue, 10/5/10, Martin Altmann wrote: > From: Martin Altmann > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with > NWA 5400 > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 3:42 PM > Hey Greg C., > > may you agree, that in meteoritics only that counts in the > end: > > - the entry in the Bulletin > - publication(s) by scientists > - information, authorized by scientists to be released. > > Everything else are bona fide statements. > To believe them or not to believe them, you have to leave > to the meteorite > people. > Certainly much depends on the credibility and on the > reputation of those, > who make such bona fide statements. > Also that you should leave to the individual people, > whether they rely on > the experience and the standing of the person. Or whether > they think, that > it is sheer speculation. > > Here we are still in the process of the scientific analyses > of a meteorite > itself, as well as of its suspected pairings. > So I think, you can stay calm, like all others are now and > show the patience > necessary to wait for the results. > > Btw. I liked the way John introduced his NWA 6077 a lot. > That is professionalism at its best. > > > My personal 2 cents. > Best! > Martin > > > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Greg Catterton [mailto:star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com] > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Oktober 2010 20:54 > An: Martin Altmann > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA > 6077 is Paired with > NWA 5400 > > But keep in mind, the same people who questioned NWA 6291 > being paired due > to how it looked also said the same could not be done with > this example. > > Greg Catterton > www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com > IMCA member 4682 > On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites > On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites > > > > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 6077, NWA 5400, NWA 5363 - O2 Plotting Diagram
Here is a chart showing where NWA 6077, NWA 5400, NWA 5363 plot. Thank you Bernd for updating the chart I provided earlier. Here is the link: http://themeteoritesite.com/OXYGENPLOT.jpg Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 6077, NWA 5400, NWA 5363 - O2 Plotting Diagram
Very nice work. I find it interesting that they plot right in line with Martian, Lunar and Aubrites. A question, Is there a known reason why 5363 hits in the Martian area while 6077 is on the Lunar boundary with 5400 right in the middle of the two? Perhaps is it in relation to where the material was on the original body? It would be neat to see where 6292 hits on the map. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Tue, 10/5/10, Adam Hupe wrote: > From: Adam Hupe > Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 6077, NWA 5400, NWA 5363 - O2 Plotting Diagram > To: "Adam" > Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 4:09 PM > Here is a chart showing where NWA > 6077, NWA 5400, NWA 5363 plot. Thank you > Bernd for updating the chart I provided earlier. > > Here is the link: > > http://themeteoritesite.com/OXYGENPLOT.jpg > > > Best Regards, > > Adam > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400
>Ok, what am I missing? I found your comment on John Higgins' introduction of NWA 6077 improper. Especially, cause you were aware of the disputes in summer and where now all agreed to be calm and to wait for the isotopes, before they announce a pairing, just like John did. So why trying again to throw oil in the fire? What for? >With over 10kg of this material in pairings known so far, I am willing to bet there is likely a good amount >more still. That prophetic gift makes you standing out from the oldest NWA-pros. :-) Cause all of them had learned over the years, that sometimes there is coming more of a stone and sometimes not. One never knows. Back to work, Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Greg Catterton [mailto:star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Oktober 2010 22:05 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Martin Altmann Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400 Ok, what am I missing? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 6077, NWA 5400, NWA 5363 - O2 Plotting Diagram
Hello, Tony Irving just sent me the oxygen data for NWA 6292: d17O 2.42, d18O 4.55, D17O +0.031 per mil. Thank you Tony!...and maybe Bernd will update his chart? :-) Best, Peter Peter Marmet - IMCA #2747 Bern, Switzerland http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/ 2010/10/5 Greg Catterton : > Very nice work. > I find it interesting that they plot right in line with Martian, Lunar and > Aubrites. > > A question, Is there a known reason why 5363 hits in the Martian area while > 6077 is on the Lunar boundary with 5400 right in the middle of the two? > Perhaps is it in relation to where the material was on the original body? > It would be neat to see where 6292 hits on the map. > > > > > Greg Catterton > www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com > IMCA member 4682 > On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites > On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites > > > --- On Tue, 10/5/10, Adam Hupe wrote: > >> From: Adam Hupe >> Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 6077, NWA 5400, NWA 5363 - O2 Plotting Diagram >> To: "Adam" >> Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 4:09 PM >> Here is a chart showing where NWA >> 6077, NWA 5400, NWA 5363 plot. Thank you >> Bernd for updating the chart I provided earlier. >> >> Here is the link: >> >> http://themeteoritesite.com/OXYGENPLOT.jpg >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Adam >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400
I am sorry that you think me commenting on the TKW is throwing oil on the fire. It was my intention of the post to simply say "hey, its awesome there is more now then yesterday" The pairings have been verified, there is over 10kg. Where is the harm in saying that? The O isotope data is in on each sample I mentioned... so what did I do wrong? Mention the TKW is over 10kg when its actually over 13kg? I spoke with Greg Hupe when this first came up over 5400 months ago and told him I wasnt going to get into this one. I did not get into it, and I did not buy any of the pairings for resale. I have no stake in this. Yes, I do stand out from the old "NWA pros" I am a lot newer and still have much to learn. I will not dispute that, but its ok... I will learn as did you and everyone else. There is a nice way to do things and a not so nice way. I feel John could have been a good deal more polite in his comments directed at me, part may be how I read it, but part was not. Its not the first time he has come off on me in an aggressive fashion and aside from the NASA dumping thing (which I was upset about based on media reports) I dont just go off on this list as I am sure many of you know. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Tue, 10/5/10, Martin Altmann wrote: > From: Martin Altmann > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with > NWA 5400 > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 4:38 PM > >Ok, what am I missing? > > I found your comment on John Higgins' introduction of NWA > 6077 improper. > > Especially, cause you were aware of the disputes in summer > and where now all > agreed to be calm and to wait for the isotopes, before they > announce a > pairing, just like John did. > > So why trying again to throw oil in the fire? What for? > > >With over 10kg of this material in pairings known so > far, I am willing to > bet there is likely a good amount >more still. > > That prophetic gift makes you standing out from the oldest > NWA-pros. :-) > Cause all of them had learned over the years, that > sometimes there is coming > more of a stone and sometimes not. One never knows. > > Back to work, > Martin > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Greg Catterton [mailto:star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com] > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Oktober 2010 22:05 > An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; > Martin Altmann > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA > 6077 is Paired with > NWA 5400 > > Ok, what am I missing? > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] [Fwd: First attempt at photographing thin sections]
--- Original Message Subject: First attempt at photographing thin sections From:"David Gunning" Date:Tue, October 5, 2010 5:27 pm To: meterotie-l...@meteoritecentral.com - Nothing wrong with those el cheapo thin sections! Nice shoot, Richard. Another excellent source for Linear Polarized Filters is: Rainbow Symphony, Inc. Reseda, Ca 91335 (818) 708-8400 www.rainbowsymphony.com They manufacture L.P.Filters made like 35mm slides. Their advantage is that they can be turned any ole whichway with the filter surfaces not rubbing against each other and causing scratches, which is never no fun. Looking forward to your additional posting of more thin section photos. Yours for crossed polars! Dave Gunning __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400
Hi Martin >Btw. I liked the way John introduced his NWA 6077 a lot. >That is professionalism at its best. I couldn't agree more! Thanks John, thanks Martin, thanks Adam and thanks to all the other REAL experts on the list. It's because of people like you that I still love this list. Keep up the good work. We need people like you here. Let's work TOGETHER to keep this list a place of civil exchange of ideas and data. The list is too important to be a battleground. Best Martin (another one) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: "Martin Altmann" Gesendet: 05.10.2010 21:42:53 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400 >Hey Greg C., > >may you agree, that in meteoritics only that counts in the end: > >- the entry in the Bulletin >- publication(s) by scientists >- information, authorized by scientists to be released. > >Everything else are bona fide statements. >To believe them or not to believe them, you have to leave to the meteorite >people. >Certainly much depends on the credibility and on the reputation of those, >who make such bona fide statements. >Also that you should leave to the individual people, whether they rely on >the experience and the standing of the person. Or whether they think, that >it is sheer speculation. > >Here we are still in the process of the scientific analyses of a meteorite >itself, as well as of its suspected pairings. >So I think, you can stay calm, like all others are now and show the patience >necessary to wait for the results. > >Btw. I liked the way John introduced his NWA 6077 a lot. >That is professionalism at its best. > > >My personal 2 cents. >Best! >Martin > > > > > >-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >Von: Greg Catterton [mailto:star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com] >Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Oktober 2010 20:54 >An: Martin Altmann >Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with >NWA 5400 > >But keep in mind, the same people who questioned NWA 6291 being paired due >to how it looked also said the same could not be done with this example. > >Greg Catterton >www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com >IMCA member 4682 >On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites >On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites >> > > > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400
--- On Tue, 10/5/10, Martin Altmann wrote: Any of the grand list pedagogues? My uncle was, but he got put in jail for it :) Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] WISE Captures Key Image Of Comet Mission's Destination (Comet Hartley 2)
Oct. 5, 2010 J.D. Harrington Headquarters, Washington 202-358-5241 j.d.harring...@nasa.gov Whitney Clavin Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. 818-354-4673 whitney.cla...@jpl.nasa.gov RELEASE: 10-249 WISE CAPTURES KEY IMAGE OF COMET MISSION'S DESTINATION WASHINGTON -- NASA's Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer, or WISE, caught a glimpse of the comet that the agency's EPOXI mission will visit in November. The WISE observation will help the EPOXI team put together a large-scale picture of the comet, known as Hartley 2. "WISE's infrared vision provides data that complement what EPOXI will see with its visible-light and near-infrared instruments," said James Bauer, of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. "It's as if WISE can see an entire country, and EPOXI will visit its capital." WISE's infrared vision will allow the telescope to get a new estimate of the size of the comet's nucleus, or core, as well as a more thorough look at the sizes of dust particles that surround it. This information, when combined with what EPOXI finds as it gets closer to Hartley 2, will reveal how the comet has changed over time. The WISE image is available at: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/WISE/multimedia/gallery/pia13438.html On Nov. 4, the EPOXI mission, which uses the already "in flight" Deep Impact flyby spacecraft, will reach its closet approach to Hartley 2. The spacecraft will examine the dusty, icy body in detail as it flies by, providing the best, extended view of a comet in history. WISE and several other ground- and space-based telescopes are participating in the viewing, working together to tackle mysteries about our solar system's origins that are frozen inside comets. For stargazers, opportunities to view the comet are possible throughout October. On Wednesday, Oct. 20, Hartley 2 will reach its closest approach to Earth since it was discovered in 1986. The comet will be approximately 11 million miles away and should be visible with the naked eye near the constellation Perseus if viewed in dark skies. Observers will need binoculars or telescopes from urban areas in the Northern Hemisphere. Southern Hemisphere stargazers can see the comet later in the month. WISE captured its view of the comet during an ongoing scan of the sky in infrared light. The mission has been busy cataloging hundreds of millions of objects, from comets to distant, powerful galaxies. In late September, it used up its frozen cryogen coolant as expected and began a new phase of its survey. Called the NEOWISE Post-Cryogenic Mission, it primarily focuses on finding additional asteroids and comets. To date, the WISE mission has observed more than 150,000 asteroids and 110 comets, including Hartley 2. "Astronomers can reference our catalog to get detailed infrared data about their favorite asteroid or comet," said Amy Mainzer, the principal investigator of NEOWISE at JPL. "Space missions can also use our observations for more information on their targets, as EPOXI is doing." WISE's view of Hartley 2 was taken on May 10, 2010. It gives astronomers a unique look at the comet, complementing what other telescopes can see. Because WISE scanned the whole sky, it captured the most extensive view of Hartley 2's trail, the dusty path left by the comet on its repeated journey around the sun. Bauer said, "We want to know how the comet behaves as it comes toward the sun and out of deep freeze. The WISE image is one critical puzzle piece of many that will give a comprehensive view of the behavior of the comet through the time of the encounter." The comet started to show signs of activity in the spring, spitting out gas and dust. By July, there were clear jets of gas. "Comparing the dust early on to what we see later with EPOXI helps us understand how the activity started on Hartley 2," said Michael A'Hearn, the principal investigator of EPOXI at the University of Maryland in College Park. The term EPOXI is a combination of the names for the two extended mission components: the Extrasolar Planet Observations and Characterization (EPOCh), and the Hartley 2 flyby, called the Deep Impact eXtended Investigation (DIXI). The name NEOWISE comes from combining WISE and the acronym for near-Earth object, NEO. For more information about EPOXI, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/epoxi http://epoxi.umd.edu/ For more information about WISE, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/wise http://wise.astro.ucla.edu/ -end- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Looks exactly like Chassigny, but is not !
Hello list, this times looking for terrstrial rocks analog to some meteorite type, I have found this one, a terrestrial dunite (major constituents of the Earth's mantle above a depth of about 400 kilometers), amazingly close in look to the Chassigny meteorite, a martian dunite. In the binocular, the same fine grained olivine, with the same tiny deep green chromite grains. I have put into the webpage links to high resolution pictures for you can judge. If I had not the card/CAO from the local university with the one I trade it, located 80Km to the Chassigny village (yes I live in Besançon : 15Km of Ornans, and 80Km of Chassigny!!!), I might have doubts... A sugar like structure for the fine grained specimens (fragile), but one was coarser grained, and I have decided to sliced it... Seems to come from the same locality... http://wwmeteorites.com/TerrestrialDunite.html Fabien __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures]
The stone at Paphos is not a meteorite. I've seen it and touched it. Sacred perhaps, but not a meteorite. Chris Spratt Victoria, BC (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures]
See also: http://imca.cc/insights/2006/IMCA-Insights04.htm Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Chris Spratt Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2010 01:34 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures] The stone at Paphos is not a meteorite. I've seen it and touched it. Sacred perhaps, but not a meteorite. Chris Spratt Victoria, BC (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400
The following is a list of the official pairings and approximate TKW so far for this amazing Brachinite-like meteorite NWA 5400. 4280. grams NWA 6292.725. grams. NWA 6077. 1000. grams NWA 5363 7985. grams. Total. 13,990. grams. -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax John higgins wrote: > Greg Catterton, > > I would be very cautious with throwing loose words around "like considering > all > the pairings" > As far as I know NWA 6077 is the only whole stone other than NWA 6292 of > which > is very fragmented that has conclusively been paired through testing and > subsequent testing to NWA 5400, from what I understand most of the others are > purely conjecture, or speculative without the extensive testing completed or > in > various stages of testing... > I think our focus should be on the Science and authenticity of claims before > you > start making bets and psychic predictions about how much more material is > paired > to this very special and important meteorite. > > > Regardless of what you think, and however hard you try to knock this > meteorite > for TKW, of what may or may not come to fruition, this meteorite is priceless > to > Science. I don't understand what the focus on TKW boils down to other than > monetary value or jealousy, this meteorite truly transcends price. And I > think > the focus should be on the science of what this meteorite can teach us about > our > past. And possibly give us clues to the future. NWA 6077 is a Meteorite that > has > most likely come from the mantle of a planet, which one? The Oxygen Isotope > results suggest one like our own planet Earth. Even if there are 10kg or > more, > this meteorite is from the mantle of a planet that is similar to our own and > comes from a place in time that does not exist anymore. I hope we can, as a > community become more productive with our time and focus on figuring out what > the meteorite parent body is and what the conditions are that existed when it > materialized. I suggest we shift the emphasis to the scientific study rather > than putting such a great focus on prematurely rushing TKW statistics, that > can > only be revealed only after many more years of scientific studies. > > Regards, > John Higgins > IMCA# 9822 > > > > - Original Message > From: Greg Catterton > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; John higgins > Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 12:01:35 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with > NWA > 5400 > > Its great that there is such a nice amount of this material when considering > all > the pairings... With over 10kg of this material in pairings known so far, I > am > willing to bet there is likely a good amount more still. > I bet the Brachinties are coming out of the woodwork to be tested. > > Greg Catterton > www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com > IMCA member 4682 > On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites > On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites > > > --- On Tue, 10/5/10, John higgins wrote: > > > From: John higgins > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA > >5400 > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 9:26 AM > > Official Announcement > > > > NWA 6077 IS PAIRED WITH NWA 5400 > > > > North West Africa 6077 Description: > > An olivine-rich assemblage with cumulate (or possibly > > metamorphic) texture > > exhibiting triple junction grain boundaries. Olivine > > (Fa30.2-30.7), > > orthopyroxene (Fs24.1-24.5Wo2.1-2.0), clinopyroxene > > (Fs9.4-10.0Wo44.0-43.5), > > altered kamacite, chromite, chlorapatite, Ni-bearing > > troilite and/or pyrrhotite. > > No plagioclase was found. Analysis conducted at the > > Carnegie Institution of > > Washington show that the oxygen isotopic composition of > > this specimen plots on > > the Terrestrial Fractionation Line. In conjunction with the > > mineral compositions > > and texture, this establishes that NWA 6077 is paired with > > NWA 5400. > > > > The averages of the two Oxygen Isotope Results are: > > d17O = 2.780, d18O = 5.358, D17O = -0.019 (all in per mil) > > > > This brachinite was recovered out of Morocco in 2008 as > > one whole stone and > > purchased by John Higgins. It was submitted for > > classification to Dr. Tony > > Irving and was given the provisional classification number > > of NWA 6077. This > > meteorite has a modest TKW of less than 1000g after the > > type specimen was > > removed. > > > > Personal Notes: Although I suspected that the two were > > possibly paired due to > > similarities in visual observations and classification > > compositions, I felt it > > was important to wait for secondary Oxygen Isotope results > > to come in which have > > recently confirmed the results beyond a reasonable doubt. > > There was also another > > important factor besides Oxygen Isotope te
Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400
Correction. typo. NWA 5400 has 4820 grams not 4280 grams (TYPO) . so add 540 grams to the total. Now we're at 14,530 grams. TKW. -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: > The following is a list of the official pairings and approximate TKW so far > for this amazing Brachinite-like meteorite > > NWA 5400. 4280. grams > NWA 6292.725. grams. > NWA 6077. 1000. grams > NWA 5363 7985. grams. > > Total. 13,990. grams. > > > -- > Carl or Debbie Esparza > Meteoritemax > > > John higgins wrote: > > Greg Catterton, > > > > I would be very cautious with throwing loose words around "like considering > > all > > the pairings" > > As far as I know NWA 6077 is the only whole stone other than NWA 6292 of > > which > > is very fragmented that has conclusively been paired through testing and > > subsequent testing to NWA 5400, from what I understand most of the others > > are > > purely conjecture, or speculative without the extensive testing completed > > or in > > various stages of testing... > > I think our focus should be on the Science and authenticity of claims > > before you > > start making bets and psychic predictions about how much more material is > > paired > > to this very special and important meteorite. > > > > > > Regardless of what you think, and however hard you try to knock this > > meteorite > > for TKW, of what may or may not come to fruition, this meteorite is > > priceless to > > Science. I don't understand what the focus on TKW boils down to other than > > monetary value or jealousy, this meteorite truly transcends price. And I > > think > > the focus should be on the science of what this meteorite can teach us > > about our > > past. And possibly give us clues to the future. NWA 6077 is a Meteorite > > that has > > most likely come from the mantle of a planet, which one? The Oxygen Isotope > > results suggest one like our own planet Earth. Even if there are 10kg or > > more, > > this meteorite is from the mantle of a planet that is similar to our own > > and > > comes from a place in time that does not exist anymore. I hope we can, as a > > community become more productive with our time and focus on figuring out > > what > > the meteorite parent body is and what the conditions are that existed when > > it > > materialized. I suggest we shift the emphasis to the scientific study > > rather > > than putting such a great focus on prematurely rushing TKW statistics, that > > can > > only be revealed only after many more years of scientific studies. > > > > Regards, > > John Higgins > > IMCA# 9822 > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Greg Catterton > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; John higgins > > Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 12:01:35 PM > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with > > NWA > > 5400 > > > > Its great that there is such a nice amount of this material when > > considering all > > the pairings... With over 10kg of this material in pairings known so far, I > > am > > willing to bet there is likely a good amount more still. > > I bet the Brachinties are coming out of the woodwork to be tested. > > > > Greg Catterton > > www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com > > IMCA member 4682 > > On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites > > On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/5/10, John higgins wrote: > > > > > From: John higgins > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with > > > NWA > > >5400 > > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 9:26 AM > > > Official Announcement > > > > > > NWA 6077 IS PAIRED WITH NWA 5400 > > > > > > North West Africa 6077 Description: > > > An olivine-rich assemblage with cumulate (or possibly > > > metamorphic) texture > > > exhibiting triple junction grain boundaries. Olivine > > > (Fa30.2-30.7), > > > orthopyroxene (Fs24.1-24.5Wo2.1-2.0), clinopyroxene > > > (Fs9.4-10.0Wo44.0-43.5), > > > altered kamacite, chromite, chlorapatite, Ni-bearing > > > troilite and/or pyrrhotite. > > > No plagioclase was found. Analysis conducted at the > > > Carnegie Institution of > > > Washington show that the oxygen isotopic composition of > > > this specimen plots on > > > the Terrestrial Fractionation Line. In conjunction with the > > > mineral compositions > > > and texture, this establishes that NWA 6077 is paired with > > > NWA 5400. > > > > > > The averages of the two Oxygen Isotope Results are: > > > d17O = 2.780, d18O = 5.358, D17O = -0.019 (all in per mil) > > > > > > This brachinite was recovered out of Morocco in 2008 as > > > one whole stone and > > > purchased by John Higgins. It was submitted for > > > classification to Dr. Tony > > > Irving and was given the provisional classification number > > > of NWA 6077. This > > > meteorite h
Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with NWA 5400
Gary, This is interesting. I do not have a copy of this book you reference. This chart shows that EH and EL also plot along the TFL and omits the Aubrites. Whereas the link Adam provided shows Aubrites and Moon on that line at about the same place. Why do these charts differ? Thanks. Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Gary Fujihara wrote: > Aloha Martin, list, > > Here is a photo of an O-isotope plot taken out page 39 of Robert Hutchinson's > book Meteorites - A Petrologic, Chemical and Isotopic Synthesis: > > http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/Images/TFL.jpg > > gary > > On Oct 5, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Martin Altmann wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > (Ooopsie... I almost was tempted, to write, that I vaguely remember a kind > > of an angry school kid, and something about a royal angrite and before with > > a part of a known lunaite. Forgive me ;-). > > > > Hey wouldn't it be interesting, > > if someone here on the list, would have a fine link at hand to a graph with > > the Terrestrial Fractionation Line > > and where therein the different meteorite types plot, for the not yet so > > experienced list members knowing, why that material is so > > special&interesting? > > > > Perhaps with a few words of explanations? > > > > Any of the grand list pedagogues? > > > > Sterling? > > Btw. what happened to Mr.Vesta MexicoDoug, who was also an excellent tutor > > and one of the best explainers of the list? > > > > Best! > > Martin > > > > (We're too busy at the moment, with another one, which plots close to the > > TFL. No worries, completely different type.) > > > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > > [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Greg > > Catterton > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Oktober 2010 19:48 > > An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; John higgins; cdtuc...@cox.net > > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Official Announcement NWA 6077 is Paired with > > NWA 5400 > > > > A higher TKW then I had calculated... > > > > This meteorite and its pairings while representing something spectacular > > (which NOBODY will dispute) and has also shown something very sad and > > disappointing... > > > > 2 IMCA members openly attacking 2 other IMCA members over comments that > > turned out to be correct and accurate. > > > > A meteorite list that shows the vile monetary based nature of meteorites in > > relation to this pairing group with rude and unwarranted comments tossed > > about. > > > > People who love meteorites, for money, science, food(?), whatever... going > > at it like school kids. > > Why do I even stay a member of this list? I see why so many have left or > > simply dont ever post. > > > > You guys need to take a step back and look at what we do here on this PUBLIC > > list. > > > > > > Greg Catterton > > www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com > > IMCA member 4682 > > On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites > > On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites > > > > > > > > __ > > Visit the Archives at > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > Gary Fujihara > Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) > 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 > http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ > http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html > (808) 640-9161 > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures]
Martin, In your scholarship about the various "black stones", do you have anything, particularly any photos, of the object displayed at the Kaa'ba? The ones I was allowed to look at last year are the work product of another and they can't be shared. Or I would. Meyer -Original Message- >From: Martin Altmann >Sent: Oct 5, 2010 4:48 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures] > >See also: >http://imca.cc/insights/2006/IMCA-Insights04.htm > >Best! >Martin > >-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com >[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Chris >Spratt >Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2010 01:34 >An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures] > >The stone at Paphos is not a meteorite. I've seen it and touched it. >Sacred perhaps, but not a meteorite. > >Chris Spratt >Victoria, BC >(Via my iPhone) >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone here eaten meteorites?
Nothing I can mention in mixed company Jeff :^) Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: "Jeff Kuyken" To: "Rob Wesel" ; "Melanie Matthews" ; "Meteorite List" Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone here eaten meteorites? Actually Rob has gone one step further than eating them with his infamous Murchison "Pinky" tattoo: http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com/catalog/murchtat.htm Any super-powers yet Rob? ;-) Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: "Rob Wesel" To: "Melanie Matthews" ; "Meteorite List" Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone here eaten meteorites? > Hi Melanie, all > > All too often, even have some the consistency of cornstarch for use in > cocktails. > > They taste like dirt as one might expect. > > Rob Wesel > www.nakhladogmeteorites.com > www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites > www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel > -- > We are the music makers... > and we are the dreamers of the dreams. > Willy Wonka, 1971 > > > - Original Message - > From: "Melanie Matthews" > To: "Meteorite List" > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 8:05 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] Anyone here eaten meteorites? > > > Hi, > Crazy question.. Has anyone on the list ever (purposely) ingested bits of > meteoritic material? How did it taste? > > > --- > -Melanie > IMCA: 2975 > eBay: metmel2775 > Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 > > I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone here eaten meteorites?
That was bigger than most Jay. I remember swinging the detector post consumption with no luck. Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: "Jason Phillips" To: "Melanie Matthews" ; "Meteorite List" ; "Rob Wesel" Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 5:41 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone here eaten meteorites? Hello List, Actually Rob forgot to mention that one of the times we were hunting this last year he popped my first find, of the trip, in his mouth and swallowed it. Thankfully I had a few more finds! Hoping that one hurt a little bit, Jason Phillips Rocks from Heaven www.rocksfromheaven.com --- On Mon, 10/4/10, Rob Wesel wrote: > From: Rob Wesel > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone here eaten meteorites? > To: "Melanie Matthews" , "Meteorite List" > > Date: Monday, October 4, 2010, 11:12 PM > Hi Melanie, all > > All too often, even have some the consistency of cornstarch > for use in > cocktails. > > They taste like dirt as one might expect. > > Rob Wesel > www.nakhladogmeteorites.com > www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites > www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel > -- > We are the music makers... > and we are the dreamers of the dreams. > Willy Wonka, 1971 > > > - Original Message - > From: "Melanie Matthews" > To: "Meteorite List" > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 8:05 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] Anyone here eaten meteorites? > > > Hi, > Crazy question.. Has anyone on the list ever (purposely) > ingested bits of > meteoritic material? How did it taste? > > > --- > -Melanie > IMCA: 2975 > eBay: metmel2775 > Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 > > I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite Cratering Book
Hello Anita and all I sent a post a few weeks ago about this publication. It can be purchased through The Geological Society of America for $99 and if you are a member of the GSA, it's only $70. 1-888-443-4472 This is just one of many reasons to join the GSA. If more meteorite collectors were members, we would have a better avenue, through the GSA, to change some of these vague laws for collecting space material. Dennis Miller GSA Associate Member > Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 07:49:13 -0700 > From: anitawestl...@att.net > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite Cratering Book > > Dear List: > I received notice of this new book on cratering. It's a little pricey at > $112.92, but here's the link if you're interested: > > > http://www.geolsoc.org.uk/page8278.html > > Anita > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Leaving for 3 weeks...Last Night to make offers...
Hello, I am headed to the field for 3 weeks... and decided to make tonight- last night of sales. make offers, I am open to making some last minute road money! Pay tonight or in the morning so I can get your item out before I leave. Thanks and Best Wishes-Michael Cottingham ALL SALE ITEMS HERE:http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD- CV3 lot
Hello, sorry for not getting back to those who emailed me about the CV3lot, the lot was sold and my router is down. My best Aziz --- On Mon, 10/4/10, Abdelaziz Alhyane wrote: > From: Abdelaziz Alhyane > Subject: [meteorite-list] AD- CV3 lot > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Monday, October 4, 2010, 6:44 PM > Hello List Members, > > Up for sale, CV3 lot for good price. > > Off list for photos and price. > > Best regards > > Aziz ( alhyane) > > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Close-up of Iron Martian Meteorite
Sorry if this has already been posted, but this pic is incredible: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/mer/multimedia/gallery/pia13418.html Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] looking for a canyon diablo w/hole
Hi list.I am putting together a little project and I am looking for a 50 to 100 gram canyon diablo with a nice hole thru it. Let me know off list if you would want to part with one. Or we could trade for something. Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! http://Chicagometeorites.com/ ebay:Illinoismeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures]
The present "Black Stone" of Paphos was recovered in 1888 and not proposed to be the Black Stone until 1913. It may or may not be the original shrine stone (or baetyl) of the original shrine, which was constructed 3200 years ago. For a discussion of this and other shrine stones, see: http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=845 "The Archaeological Research Unit of the University of Cyprus... informed them that 'the conical stone that is believed to be the cult statue of Aphrodite, recovered during the excavation of her sanctuary at the site of Palaepaphos, Kouklia is currently exhibited at the museum [ at Kouklia ]. It is not a meteorite but a larger boulder of diabase [ a.k.a. dolerite, an igneous rock, of terrestrial origin ] which originates at the peak of Troodos mountains and is commonly found in the river beds that bring it down. Diabase was used since the Neolithic to produce groundstone tools and vessels.' " An excellent description of the shrine site: http://www.hist.uzh.ch/ag/paphos/project/aphrodite/index.html Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: "Chris Spratt" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures] The stone at Paphos is not a meteorite. I've seen it and touched it. Sacred perhaps, but not a meteorite. Chris Spratt Victoria, BC (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures]
Martin, Count Deiro, List, The Sokollu Mehmet Pasha Mosque in Istanbul is said to contain a fragment of the Mecca meteorite: http://www.suite101.com/content/istanbuls-elegant-little-mosque-a212930 Ted Brattstrom posted this photo essay about his search for the six fragments said to be housed in Istanbul here: http://kauscience.k12.hi.us/~ted/Blackstone/hajar-al-aswad.htm Count, the above link contains a photo of the Ka'aba meteorite in its silver mount. Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: "Martin Altmann" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures] See also: http://imca.cc/insights/2006/IMCA-Insights04.htm Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Chris Spratt Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2010 01:34 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures] The stone at Paphos is not a meteorite. I've seen it and touched it. Sacred perhaps, but not a meteorite. Chris Spratt Victoria, BC (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Close-up of Iron Martian Meteorite
That is so cool - and no rust on it. Thanks for sharing Greg S. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 5, 2010, at 7:24 PM, "Mike Bandli" wrote: > Sorry if this has already been posted, but this pic is incredible: > > http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/mer/multimedia/gallery/pia13418.html > > > > Mike Bandli > Historic Meteorites > www.HistoricMeteorites.com > and join us on Facebook: > www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 > IMCA #5765 > > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list