[meteorite-list] Forwarded: Not a missile -- a jet contrail
Hi Count, Quite a few pieces of evidence against a missile launch: 1. Military says they didn't launch anything 2. No NOTAM submitted (in heavily congested int'l airport corridor) 3. SLBMs never launch from coastal California waters 4. No upper atmospheric, differential wind shear of the plume 5. Contrail grew far too slowly for a missile launch 6. Contrail did not persist after sunset (no twilight glow) 7. No corresponding high-speed, high-altitude object on radar --Rob -Original Message- From: Count Deiro [mailto:countde...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tue 11/9/2010 11:37 PM To: Richard Kowalski; meteorite list; Matson, Robert D. Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail Hello Richard and Listoids, The subject contrail/combustion byproduct/condensation trail was not made by a turbojet powered aircraft. There is only one trail and it displays a massive constant volume atypical of conventional multi-engine aircraft which display a separate condensation trail from each engine. High altitude can make an airliner's condensation trails look like a single artifact, but when seen closer you easily can count the engines by the individual trails. The volume and density of this trail belie any water condensed trail I have seen from an aircraft. The trail of a rocket powered X15 isn't anywhere near as massive as this dude.. In my learned opinion, this missle was powered by a single (non-staging) big ass, solid fuel rocket engine. It looks like your standard submarine launched ICBM going down range to our Pacific Test Area. Did you see the helicopter hovering in an observing position? Best, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 P.S. In another life I was the Director of Aviation Facilities for the Hughes Tool Co. and an ATP rated aviator. -Original Message- From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com Sent: Nov 9, 2010 6:54 PM To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Robert D.Matson robert.d.mat...@saic.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail OK I'd like to see the third one i more detail, but its probably a contrail. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Not a missile -- a jet contrail
Hi Bob, You make a pretty convincing argument. After pondering your seven points I decided I had better lay off the wine before making any more assertions on List. I am not so sure now what this thing was. As they say in Alabama...Hit shor don't look like no aeroplane. Guido -Original Message- From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com Sent: Nov 9, 2010 11:54 PM To: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net, meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: OT: Not a missile -- a jet contrail Hi Count, Quite a few pieces of evidence against a missile launch: 1. Military says they didn't launch anything 2. No NOTAM submitted (in heavily congested int'l airport corridor) 3. SLBMs never launch from coastal California waters 4. No upper atmospheric, differential wind shear of the plume 5. Contrail grew far too slowly for a missile launch 6. Contrail did not persist after sunset (no twilight glow) 7. No corresponding high-speed, high-altitude object on radar --Rob -Original Message- From: Count Deiro [mailto:countde...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tue 11/9/2010 11:37 PM To: Richard Kowalski; meteorite list; Matson, Robert D. Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail Hello Richard and Listoids, The subject contrail/combustion byproduct/condensation trail was not made by a turbojet powered aircraft. There is only one trail and it displays a massive constant volume atypical of conventional multi-engine aircraft which display a separate condensation trail from each engine. High altitude can make an airliner's condensation trails look like a single artifact, but when seen closer you easily can count the engines by the individual trails. The volume and density of this trail belie any water condensed trail I have seen from an aircraft. The trail of a rocket powered X15 isn't anywhere near as massive as this dude.. In my learned opinion, this missle was powered by a single (non-staging) big ass, solid fuel rocket engine. It looks like your standard submarine launched ICBM going down range to our Pacific Test Area. Did you see the helicopter hovering in an observing position? Best, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 P.S. In another life I was the Director of Aviation Facilities for the Hughes Tool Co. and an ATP rated aviator. -Original Message- From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com Sent: Nov 9, 2010 6:54 PM To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Robert D.Matson robert.d.mat...@saic.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail OK I'd like to see the third one i more detail, but its probably a contrail. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT: candidate for SoCal contrail
Just to try to close the book on this, here's my candidate for the source of the November 8th contrail: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE808/history/20101108/1955Z/PHNL/KPHX Boeing 757-200 from Honolulu to Phoenix flew right over Catalina Island at 37,000 feet at the time in question. --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Not a missile -- a jet contrail
Plot thickens...? The flight path of the US Airways flight which left Hawaii, and landed in Phoenix does in fact cross Catalina island. Due west of Catalina is San Nicolas Island. ...in 2004 and 2010, U.S. military research rockets were launched from San Nicolas Island. The launchpad was situated at 33°15′N 119°30′W / 33.25°N 119.5°W / 33.25; -119.5Coordinates: 33°15′N 119°30′W / 33.25°N 119.5°W / 33.25; -119.5. It remains part of the Pacific Missile Range... SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Nicolas_Island ...The San Nicolas Island Vandal Launch Pad launch complex is capable of supporting missile (Tomahawk RAM) and missile targets (Vandal) launches. Launch complex's, ordnance handling, and a remote/secure environment provides an ideal location for weapons TE. Many of the targets routinely used on the Sea Range (the BQM-34 and BQM-74 series and the MQM-8G) are launched from either the Point Mugu Surface Launch Complex at Building 55 or from additional specialized launch facilities on San Nicolas Island. ... SOURCE - http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/san-nicolas-island.htm Map: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=33.25,-119.5spn=0.1,0.1t=mlci=org.wikipedia.enq=33.25,-119.5%28San%20Nicolas%20Island%29 Video: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2010/11/09/pentagon-cant-explain-missile-off-california-coast/ Probably coincidence... Eric On 11/10/2010 12:09 AM, Count Deiro wrote: Hi Bob, You make a pretty convincing argument. After pondering your seven points I decided I had better lay off the wine before making any more assertions on List. I am not so sure now what this thing was. As they say in Alabama...Hit shor don't look like no aeroplane. Guido -Original Message- From: Matson, Robert D.robert.d.mat...@saic.com Sent: Nov 9, 2010 11:54 PM To: Count Deirocountde...@earthlink.net, meteorite listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: OT: Not a missile -- a jet contrail Hi Count, Quite a few pieces of evidence against a missile launch: 1. Military says they didn't launch anything 2. No NOTAM submitted (in heavily congested int'l airport corridor) 3. SLBMs never launch from coastal California waters 4. No upper atmospheric, differential wind shear of the plume 5. Contrail grew far too slowly for a missile launch 6. Contrail did not persist after sunset (no twilight glow) 7. No corresponding high-speed, high-altitude object on radar --Rob -Original Message- From: Count Deiro [mailto:countde...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tue 11/9/2010 11:37 PM To: Richard Kowalski; meteorite list; Matson, Robert D. Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail Hello Richard and Listoids, The subject contrail/combustion byproduct/condensation trail was not made by a turbojet powered aircraft. There is only one trail and it displays a massive constant volume atypical of conventional multi-engine aircraft which display a separate condensation trail from each engine. High altitude can make an airliner's condensation trails look like a single artifact, but when seen closer you easily can count the engines by the individual trails. The volume and density of this trail belie any water condensed trail I have seen from an aircraft. The trail of a rocket powered X15 isn't anywhere near as massive as this dude.. In my learned opinion, this missle was powered by a single (non-staging) big ass, solid fuel rocket engine. It looks like your standard submarine launched ICBM going down range to our Pacific Test Area. Did you see the helicopter hovering in an observing position? Best, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 P.S. In another life I was the Director of Aviation Facilities for the Hughes Tool Co. and an ATP rated aviator. -Original Message- From: Richard Kowalskidamoc...@yahoo.com Sent: Nov 9, 2010 6:54 PM To: meteorite listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Robert D.Matsonrobert.d.mat...@saic.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail OK I'd like to see the third one i more detail, but its probably a contrail. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
None of these look like any missile launch I've ever seen here in California. These are all no doubt aircraft contrails. All the missile contrails I've seen around here take up most of the northwestern sky and have very pronounced zig zags of all colors. GeoZay Compare the four images here: http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/missile_launch_california_contrail_ aircraft_203591-1.html The top one is from last night. The bottom three are all confirmed aircraft contrails. --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
I think why so many people have a hard time accepting the contrail explanation, is because the government has proven itself so adept at lying to it's own citizens, that people now expect to be lied to about everything of consequence. Even if it was a missile launch, the government would lie about it and say it was a contrail, swamp gas, or Venus. Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Meteorite Top List - http://meteorite.gotop100.com EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 11/10/10, geo...@aol.com geo...@aol.com wrote: None of these look like any missile launch I've ever seen here in California. These are all no doubt aircraft contrails. All the missile contrails I've seen around here take up most of the northwestern sky and have very pronounced zig zags of all colors. GeoZay Compare the four images here: http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/missile_launch_california_contrail_ aircraft_203591-1.html The top one is from last night. The bottom three are all confirmed aircraft contrails. --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] November Issue of Meteorite-Times now up
Dear List, The November issue of Meteorite-Times is now up. http://www.meteorite-times.com/2010/11/ Enjoy! Paul and Jim __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: candidate for SoCal contrail
ROCKET LAUNCH: Last night, sky watchers in southern California and Nevada witnessed a bright light cutting across the evening sky. It was a Delta II rocket from the Vandenberg Air Force Base carrying Italy's COSMO SkyMed-4 satellite to Earth orbit. The SkyMed-4 is equipped with a radar that can image any part of Earth's surface--a capability that will come in handy both for military surveillance and scientific research. Follow the links for launch photos: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5. http://spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1day=06month=11year=2010 Some food for thought John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Rob Matson Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 12:11 AM To: Meteorite Central Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: candidate for SoCal contrail Just to try to close the book on this, here's my candidate for the source of the November 8th contrail: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE808/history/20101108/1955Z/PHNL/K PHX Boeing 757-200 from Honolulu to Phoenix flew right over Catalina Island at 37,000 feet at the time in question. --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunting Rats
Actually it is an excellent idea. There is a Belgian Scientist in Africa that has raised a variety of larger, affectionate, friendly rats that are trained for finding land mines below the surface or the soil. It is a very large rat species trained to lead on a leash. The rats lighter weight means it is far less likely to explode the mine. I believe there is a video at TED.com The fact that it has the ability to smell the land mines below ground seems an advantage if adapted to meteorite hunting. Imagine if you will someone dressed as the Pied Pipper and arriving at a fresh fall with dozens of Meteorite hunting rats... You could cover acres in a short while. Elton - Original Message From: wahlpe...@aol.com wahlpe...@aol.com To: drtan...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, November 9, 2010 9:59:33 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunting Rats Hi Dirk and List, I advise against anybody using a rat to hunt in a strewn field. I tried hunting with a large rat once but it turned out bad. The rat only seemed to attract more rats to the area. So for me I have decided to stick with my dog. Just my two cents on hunting! : ) Sonny -Original Message- From: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, Nov 9, 2010 12:40 am Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunting Rats Dear List,Hopper The Meteorite Dog and Brix The Dog will soon only be on TV?Rats now being used to search for landmines will soon be trained by meteorite hunters to hunt for meteorites, predicts LunarMeteorite*Hunter, Tokyo, Japan. Rats have an acute sense for smell and are extremely accurate in detection; rat packs will soon be used to search strewn fields in Poland, Canada, the US and elsewhere. Dogs will soon be out of use due to their large size and food consumption; rats are in. http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2010/11/rats-may-soon-be-trained-to-search-for.html with videoBest Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo__Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.htmlMeteorite-list mailing listmeteorite-l...@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/li stinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
Probably a fed up meteorite leaving Earth for the Moon or Mars. Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunting Rats
Elton: That's too funny!! The Pied Piper with a herd of meteorats! - Phil Whitmer Actually it is an excellent idea. There is a Belgian Scientist in Africa that has raised a variety of larger, affectionate, friendly rats that are trained for finding land mines below the surface or the soil. It is a very large rat species trained to lead on a leash. The rats lighter weight means it is far less likely to explode the mine. I believe there is a video at TED.com The fact that it has the ability to smell the land mines below ground seems an advantage if adapted to meteorite hunting. Imagine if you will someone dressed as the Pied Pipper and arriving at a fresh fall with dozens of Meteorite hunting rats... You could cover acres in a short while. Elton __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
Why is everyone beating around the bush here!? Isn't it obvious? We all know this was the Pleiadians and Lizard People who are going to explode America while Obama is in Asia http://wonkette.com/429668/pleiadians-lizard-people-going-to-explode-america-while-obama-is-in-asia On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com wrote: Hi All, We've seen this sort of thing before, folks. It's not a missile launch. It's just a sunlit contrail from an airliner flying toward (and to the right) of the camera. SLBMs are not launched so close to the California coastline, and certainly not without submitting a NOTAM. --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of impact...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 5:23 PM To: drtan...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; meteor...@meteorobs.org Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a Meteor? California A LAunch? In a message dated 11/9/2010 6:14:23 PM Mountain Standard Time, drtan...@yahoo.com writes: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2010/11/not-meteor-meteormeteo rite-news.html Hope FOX News checked their sources! Tokyo On AOL News: http://www.aolnews.com/surge-desk/article/mystery-missile-lights-up-los- angeles-skies/19709162?icid=main%7Cwelcome%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%7C183117 More reliable than Fox? Anne M. Black http://www.impactika.com/ impact...@aol.com President, I.M.C.A. Inc. http://www.imca.cc/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
Not a meteorite, Nancy Pelosi. Ted On 11/10/10 10:55 AM, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com wrote: Probably a fed up meteorite leaving Earth for the Moon or Mars. Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
Naw, Meg W. On 6:19:35 pm 11/10/10 Ted Bunch tbe...@cableone.net wrote: Not a meteorite, Nancy Pelosi. Ted On 11/10/10 10:55 AM, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com wrote: Probably a fed up meteorite leaving Earth for the Moon or Mars. Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-arc hives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Missle or Aircraft Controversy Resolved?
Dear List, Those of us who insisted the subject trail was from a missle appear to have some heavy duty support. This has just been released internationally. But Doug Richardson, the editor of Jane’s Missiles and Rockets, examined the video for the Times of London and said he was left with little doubt. It’s a solid propellant missile, he told the Times. You can tell from the efflux [smoke]. Richardson said it could have been a ballistic missile launched from a submarine or an interceptor, the defensive anti-missile weapon used by Navy surface ships--- Regards, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Missle or Aircraft Controversy Resolved?
Hi List, If this was truly a ballistic missile, wouldn't it show up on the radars of every air-traffic control tower and weather doppler for hundreds of miles around? It doesn't seem like an epic investigation to reconcile the known air-traffic in the area at the time and any radar signatures that were detected. A plane and a missile would have very different flight paths, so it should be relatively easy (for qualified persons) to determine what it is. Let's pretend this contrail was a bolide trail instead. Where is the nearest doppler station? Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Meteorite Top List - http://meteorite.gotop100.com EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 11/10/10, Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote: Dear List, Those of us who insisted the subject trail was from a missle appear to have some heavy duty support. This has just been released internationally. But Doug Richardson, the editor of Jane’s Missiles and Rockets, examined the video for the Times of London and said he was left with little doubt. It’s a solid propellant missile, he told the Times. You can tell from the efflux [smoke]. Richardson said it could have been a ballistic missile launched from a submarine or an interceptor, the defensive anti-missile weapon used by Navy surface ships--- Regards, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Missle or Aircraft Controversy Resolved?
even old missiles like the Nike left the launch rail at multi-mach speeds...the chances of an ATC seeing it long enough to think it might be a problem are slim since it would have been at a close to vertical climb. The military would have been instructed to just ignore or watch it, depending on their individual functions. Since it looks like it might have been off Point Magoo, I'd suspect it was a Navy test shot. On 8:48:30 pm 11/10/10 Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, If this was truly a ballistic missile, wouldn't it show up on the radars of every air-traffic control tower and weather doppler for hundreds of miles around? It doesn't seem like an epic investigation to reconcile the known air-traffic in the area at the time and any radar signatures that were detected. A plane and a missile would have very different flight paths, so it should be relatively easy (for qualified persons) to determine what it is. Let's pretend this contrail was a bolide trail instead. Where is the nearest doppler station? Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Meteorite Top List - http://meteorite.gotop100.com EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=156 4 -- - On 11/10/10, Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote: Dear List, Those of us who insisted the subject trail was from a missle appear to have some heavy duty support. This has just been released internationally. But Doug Richardson, the editor of Janes Missiles and Rockets, examined the video for the Times of London and said he was left with little doubt. Its a solid propellant missile, he told the Times. You can tell from the efflux [smoke]. Richardson said it could have been a ballistic missile launched from a submarine or an interceptor, the defensive anti-missile weapon used by Navy surface ships--- Regards, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-arc hives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Missle or Aircraft Controversy Resolved?
BBC says Pentagon says Aircraft not Missile: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11731014 Fox News Blog says that DoD says aircraft... http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/11/10/dod-case-closed-plane-caused-contrail/?test=latestnews ...With all the information that we have gathered over the last day... both within the Department of Defense and other U.S. government agencies, we have no information to suggest this was anything other than a contrail caused by an aircraft, said Col. David Lapan... Still, the very careful wording of this quote is neither a confirmation nor a denial. It's interesting how it's worded that the general public is experiencing an optical illusion. Missile Launch Photos: http://www.google.com/images?q=missile+launchbiw=1280bih=777 Whatever... Eric On 11/10/2010 12:56 PM, ma...@imagineopals.com wrote: even old missiles like the Nike left the launch rail at multi-mach speeds...the chances of an ATC seeing it long enough to think it might be a problem are slim since it would have been at a close to vertical climb. The military would have been instructed to just ignore or watch it, depending on their individual functions. Since it looks like it might have been off Point Magoo, I'd suspect it was a Navy test shot. On 8:48:30 pm 11/10/10 Galactic Stone Ironworksmeteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, If this was truly a ballistic missile, wouldn't it show up on the radars of every air-traffic control tower and weather doppler for hundreds of miles around? It doesn't seem like an epic investigation to reconcile the known air-traffic in the area at the time and any radar signatures that were detected. A plane and a missile would have very different flight paths, so it should be relatively easy (for qualified persons) to determine what it is. Let's pretend this contrail was a bolide trail instead. Where is the nearest doppler station? Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Meteorite Top List - http://meteorite.gotop100.com EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=156 4 -- - On 11/10/10, Count Deirocountde...@earthlink.net wrote: Dear List, Those of us who insisted the subject trail was from a missle appear to have some heavy duty support. This has just been released internationally. But Doug Richardson, the editor of Janes Missiles and Rockets, examined the video for the Times of London and said he was left with little doubt. Its a solid propellant missile, he told the Times. You can tell from the efflux [smoke]. Richardson said it could have been a ballistic missile launched from a submarine or an interceptor, the defensive anti-missile weapon used by Navy surface ships--- Regards, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-arc hives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Special: Extremely unusual Eucrite - NWA 5473
Dear Friends of truly unusual meteorites, in a Quick-Special, we want to present to you a very uncommon and weird new eucrite. Just take a look and you'll agree, that we have here a HED of quite unique appearance: http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/special-nwa5473.html It is a polymict eucrite, but extremely shocked. Instead of displaying as to expect textureless impact melts, the matrix consist of a large variety of grains and finest fragments, looking almost like have been sprayed around. Very hard to cut material it is. Here and there large lighter clasts are preserved. A strange play of colours it has. We had held back that stone for two years, usually if of new material somewhat more gets available, it will appear very soon with different numbers. Not so with that one, we are not aware of pairings since. NWA 5473 Sahara, 2008 tkw 45.9g polymict EUC Shock level: high Weathering grade: moderate Only a small stone it was; with such fast-going exciting material of very limited availability, we have always to vary a little bit, because of the different time zones, where to publish our Specials firstly, to be more fair. This time we offered NWA 5473 three hours earlier in the Germs forum, and all slices went immediately. But, the good news - the main mass of 23.2g is still free. And the better news - we priced it fairly cheap for such a quite unique material: 20$/g. The polished cut face of the main mass is a little bit reflecting in the photo, it is looking as fine as the slices do. So here you are! Good luck! Stefan Ralew Martin Altmann Chladni's Heirs Munich - Berlin Fine Meteorites for Science Collectors http://www.chladnis-heirs.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN
Did y'all see the latest METEORITE MEN? Killer Vaca Muerta recovery. Possibly the Best specimen ever - certainly the best I have seen. Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
And in some of the footage I saw, it looked like flame was coming out at the source. So while it looks like a contrail, that seems like an odd feature for one. But maybe it's just an optical illusion because of the way it all lines up. It could be that some fish are interested in exploring the oceans of Titan or Europa(?). Mark B. Vail, AZ - Original Message From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, November 9, 2010 7:01:30 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail I'm not so sure I agree with you Rob. The original footage is here: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2010/11/09/pentagon-cant-explain-missile-off-california-coast/ The trail looks like many other rocket launches I've seen in twilight. Note the appearance is a vertical climb and then arcing over, down range. Note too that there are no other contrails in the sky. I certainly hope it is a contrail, but it looks very much like a submarine launched ballistic missile. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 --- On Tue, 11/9/10, Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com wrote: From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail To: impact...@aol.com, drtan...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, meteor...@meteorobs.org Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 6:31 PM Hi All, We've seen this sort of thing before, folks. It's not a missile launch. It's just a sunlit contrail from an airliner flying toward (and to the right) of the camera. SLBMs are not launched so close to the California coastline, and certainly not without submitting a NOTAM. --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of impact...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 5:23 PM To: drtan...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; meteor...@meteorobs.org Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a Meteor? California A LAunch? In a message dated 11/9/2010 6:14:23 PM Mountain Standard Time, drtan...@yahoo.com writes: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2010/11/not-meteor-meteormeteo rite-news.html Hope FOX News checked their sources! Tokyo On AOL News: http://www.aolnews.com/surge-desk/article/mystery-missile-lights-up-los- angeles-skies/19709162?icid=main%7Cwelcome%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%7C183117 More reliable than Fox? Anne M. Black http://www.impactika.com/ impact...@aol.com President, I.M.C.A. Inc. http://www.imca.cc/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
After reserving judgement I find myself in the probably aircraft camp. What I find somewhat unsettling is after a couple days of wondering, the FAA, the military and the government aren't able to say with certainty what it was. This isn't an illegal alien slipping across the border, it's a big contrail leaving craft. If it can leave a contrail, there should be a record of it. I suppose it could have been a black project, but even then I'd expect a cover story which was definitive. George __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Which class matches a chondrite ,,,
Hi met friends, Which class of petrography matches a chondrite, which was molten nearly 99,99% and now has no chondrules but only a few remnants, which could be parts of them? Is this an achondrite, because total melting means morphodifferentiation? Look at www.flickr.com/photos/inside_of_meteorites/5164936462/in/set-72157625356287024/ and give your comment. The thin iron lines mean that the melting temperature must be at least 1600°C. That is in the range of melting temperature of Pyroxene and above Olivine. Can an meteoroid of several ponds weight with a null gravity and which orbits the sun nearby become differentiated? m42protosun Ohne Brief, aber mit Siegel. Mit Telekom De-Mail vertraulich und rechtsverbindlich online kommunizieren. Jetzt registrieren! www.telekom.de/de-mail __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - November 10, 2010
MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES November 10, 2010 o Sinuous Ridges http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_019677_1585 o Southern Hemisphere Crater with Gullies http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_003162_1445 o Cerberus Fossae Fracture http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_004006_1900 o Crater Central Peak http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_004242_1495 o Blocks and Valleys in Southwestern Melas Chasma http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_004384_1705 o Inverted Channels and Layers Near Juventae Chasma http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_004423_1755 All of the HiRISE images are archived here: http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN
Michael, Very nice find and Very glad the show is back on myself. Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote: Did y'all see the latest METEORITE MEN? Killer Vaca Muerta recovery. Possibly the Best specimen ever - certainly the best I have seen. Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
Naw, Meg W. Meg(a) W(histle)... made a lot of noise, peetered out and then fell in the ocean, pretty sure the missile didn't cost 140,000,000.00 bucks like, The CamPain!! - Original Message - From: ma...@imagineopals.com To: Ted Bunch tbe...@cableone.net Cc: cspr...@islandnet.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail Naw, Meg W. On 6:19:35 pm 11/10/10 Ted Bunch tbe...@cableone.net wrote: Not a meteorite, Nancy Pelosi. Ted On 11/10/10 10:55 AM, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com wrote: Probably a fed up meteorite leaving Earth for the Moon or Mars. Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-arc hives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.869 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3248 - Release Date: 11/10/10 02:34:00 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunting Rats
It is a very large rat species trained to lead on a leash Sounds like fishing with live bait, works very well to catch the BIG ones!! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: MEM mstrema...@yahoo.com To: wahlpe...@aol.com Cc: metlist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunting Rats Actually it is an excellent idea. There is a Belgian Scientist in Africa that has raised a variety of larger, affectionate, friendly rats that are trained for finding land mines below the surface or the soil. It is a very large rat species trained to lead on a leash. The rats lighter weight means it is far less likely to explode the mine. I believe there is a video at TED.com The fact that it has the ability to smell the land mines below ground seems an advantage if adapted to meteorite hunting. Imagine if you will someone dressed as the Pied Pipper and arriving at a fresh fall with dozens of Meteorite hunting rats... You could cover acres in a short while. Elton - Original Message From: wahlpe...@aol.com wahlpe...@aol.com To: drtan...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, November 9, 2010 9:59:33 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunting Rats Hi Dirk and List, I advise against anybody using a rat to hunt in a strewn field. I tried hunting with a large rat once but it turned out bad. The rat only seemed to attract more rats to the area. So for me I have decided to stick with my dog. Just my two cents on hunting! : ) Sonny -Original Message- From: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, Nov 9, 2010 12:40 am Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunting Rats Dear List,Hopper The Meteorite Dog and Brix The Dog will soon only be on TV?Rats now being used to search for landmines will soon be trained by meteorite hunters to hunt for meteorites, predicts LunarMeteorite*Hunter, Tokyo, Japan. Rats have an acute sense for smell and are extremely accurate in detection; rat packs will soon be used to search strewn fields in Poland, Canada, the US and elsewhere. Dogs will soon be out of use due to their large size and food consumption; rats are in. http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2010/11/rats-may-soon-be-trained-to-search-for.html with videoBest Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo__Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.htmlMeteorite-list mailing listmeteorite-l...@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/li stinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.869 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3248 - Release Date: 11/10/10 02:34:00 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Missle or Aircraft Controversy Resolved?
If this was truly a ballistic missile, wouldn't it show up on the radars of every air-traffic control tower and weather doppler for hundreds of miles around?... ...Unless of course the guv-ment 'urged' the radar folks to ignore some radar data. Maybe it was an accidental launch that would embarrass the powers in charge?...or a private company that decided to launch their Helium3 excavator to the moon without guv-ment approval?... Just a couple more thoughts to add to the fire... - Original Message - From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Missle or Aircraft Controversy Resolved? Hi List, If this was truly a ballistic missile, wouldn't it show up on the radars of every air-traffic control tower and weather doppler for hundreds of miles around? It doesn't seem like an epic investigation to reconcile the known air-traffic in the area at the time and any radar signatures that were detected. A plane and a missile would have very different flight paths, so it should be relatively easy (for qualified persons) to determine what it is. Let's pretend this contrail was a bolide trail instead. Where is the nearest doppler station? Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Meteorite Top List - http://meteorite.gotop100.com EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 11/10/10, Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote: Dear List, Those of us who insisted the subject trail was from a missle appear to have some heavy duty support. This has just been released internationally. But Doug Richardson, the editor of Jane’s Missiles and Rockets, examined the video for the Times of London and said he was left with little doubt. It’s a solid propellant missile, he told the Times. You can tell from the efflux [smoke]. Richardson said it could have been a ballistic missile launched from a submarine or an interceptor, the defensive anti-missile weapon used by Navy surface ships--- Regards, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.869 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3248 - Release Date: 11/10/10 02:34:00 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Missle or Aircraft Controversy Resolved?
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/11/10/blogger-solved-california-missile-mystery/?test=faces On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net wrote: If this was truly a ballistic missile, wouldn't it show up on the radars of every air-traffic control tower and weather doppler for hundreds of miles around?... ...Unless of course the guv-ment 'urged' the radar folks to ignore some radar data. Maybe it was an accidental launch that would embarrass the powers in charge?...or a private company that decided to launch their Helium3 excavator to the moon without guv-ment approval?... Just a couple more thoughts to add to the fire... - Original Message - From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Missle or Aircraft Controversy Resolved? Hi List, If this was truly a ballistic missile, wouldn't it show up on the radars of every air-traffic control tower and weather doppler for hundreds of miles around? It doesn't seem like an epic investigation to reconcile the known air-traffic in the area at the time and any radar signatures that were detected. A plane and a missile would have very different flight paths, so it should be relatively easy (for qualified persons) to determine what it is. Let's pretend this contrail was a bolide trail instead. Where is the nearest doppler station? Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Meteorite Top List - http://meteorite.gotop100.com EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 11/10/10, Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote: Dear List, Those of us who insisted the subject trail was from a missle appear to have some heavy duty support. This has just been released internationally. But Doug Richardson, the editor of Jane’s Missiles and Rockets, examined the video for the Times of London and said he was left with little doubt. It’s a solid propellant missile, he told the Times. You can tell from the efflux [smoke]. Richardson said it could have been a ballistic missile launched from a submarine or an interceptor, the defensive anti-missile weapon used by Navy surface ships--- Regards, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.869 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3248 - Release Date: 11/10/10 02:34:00 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rodrigo Martinez Contact
Happy Wednesday, Has anyone been in contact with Rodrigo Martinez? I have not been able to get in touch with him. If anybody has his e-mail please let me know. Thanks! -- Felipe __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
The flight path of a 757 was posted over the Catalina Island area at the time of the contrails by Rob: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE808/history/20101108/1955Z/PHNL/KPHX I find that to be very solid evidence for the contrail theory. Apparently jet contrails get confused for missles fairly often. If you read the comments at the bottom of the article, they reflect the exact arguments made about the current confusion. It's deja vu all over again. Or it could be George, his wife Jane and their daughter Judy, son Elroy and Astro their dog, celebrating Carl Sagan's birthday. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2010/01/27/nl-ufo-military-012710.html#socialcomments DND, RCMP mum on UFO mystery People who saw a missile-like object soaring through the sky over a small rural community in Newfoundland Monday night are getting no answers about what it was, although police say they'd gotten to the bottom of the mystery. Darlene Stewart spotted the object while taking pictures of the sunset over Harbour Mille, a community of about 200 residents on the south coast of the province. She says she started snapping photos. She then called her neighbour, Emmy Pardy, and the two women, along with Stewart's husband, say they saw three similar objects flying through the air minutes apart, one up close and two farther off in the distance. I really did get sick to my stomach, I was shaking when I seen it, Stewart told CBC News Wednesday. We were just in awe of what we seen. The photos taken by Stewart show blurry pictures of what appears to be a long, round object, much like a missile, seemingly rising from the ocean, with either smoke or flames shooting out the back end. Objects made no noise Stewart said the objects didn't make any noise. We confirmed that it was something, Sgt. Wayne Edgecombe told CBC News Wednesday. But Edgecombe said he couldn't reveal what the police investigation uncovered. He said the focus of any police investigation is on whether something criminal has occurred. It's nothing criminal, he said, in relation to the unidentified object. Edgecombe said he contacted the Department of National Defence and they gave me some info, but he said that it is up to that department to release the information publicly. Defence Department officials said they were aware of the reports, but were waiting on a final report before commenting and that the RCMP were in charge of the investigation. However, the RCMP released a statement Wednesday referring all media inquiries on the subject to Public Safety Canada. That department referred inquiries back to the RCMP. The sighting has intrigued people in the Harbour Mille area, with some saying they were told by officers who were in the community Tuesday investigating the sightings, that the objects were test missiles launched from the nearby French islands of St. Pierre and Miquelon. Edgecombe said that rumour is completely false. The French Ministry of Defence posted a message on its website confirming it had launched a missile from a submarine this week but the time and direction didn't match with what was reportedly seen over the south coast of Newfoundland. The suggestion that the object possibly involved the military has Liberal MP Gerry Byrne, who represents the Newfoundland riding of Humber-St. Barbe-Baie Verte, demanding answers. There's a credible body of evidence, Byrne told CBC News, that suggests there's something spectacular happened off of our shore. Before this goes any farther, I think the government needs to actually respond very quickly with a straightforward, factual statement. Was safety in jeopardy? Byrne said if it was some kind of military test, then people should be told whether their safety was jeopardized. If indeed this was a man-made object, that it was a missile, was there any potential risk to health and safety from collateral damage should the missile fire have failed? Byrne used the mystery to take a shot at the federal government for proroguing Parliament. He said if the House of Commons was opened, he'd be able to question the ministers of defence, transport and public safety about the incident. It's cloaked in relative secrecy, he said. And the only way to get around that secrecy is a special institution called the floor of the House of Commons. Stewart said Tuesday she has been overwhelmed by the number of calls she has received about the sighting. But she said nobody has told her officially what it was that she saw. I would like to get to the bottom of it, she said. Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2010/01/27/nl-ufo-military-012710.html#socialcomments#ixzz14vk9jp00 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
We could not be that lucky! -Original Message- From: Ted Bunch Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 1:19 PM To: cspr...@islandnet.com ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail Not a meteorite, Nancy Pelosi. Ted On 11/10/10 10:55 AM, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com wrote: Probably a fed up meteorite leaving Earth for the Moon or Mars. Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN
Great show last night! Here are more show times. http://science.discovery.com/tv-schedules/series.html?paid=48.16200.126184.36729.2 Geoff did a great interview here. http://www.tucsonmorningblend.com/videos/106451583.html Paul Michael Bloodmlbl...@cox.net wrote: Did y'all see the latest METEORITE MEN? Killer Vaca Muerta recovery. Possibly the Best specimen ever - certainly the best I have seen. Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
Dr. Ted, best one yet. - Original Message - From: Ted Bunch tbe...@cableone.net To: cspr...@islandnet.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail Not a meteorite, Nancy Pelosi. Ted On 11/10/10 10:55 AM, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com wrote: Probably a fed up meteorite leaving Earth for the Moon or Mars. Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN
Yes it was!!! AWESOME!!! Geoff and Steve both episodes so far have been great!! -Original Message- From: Michael Blood Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 4:21 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN Did y'all see the latest METEORITE MEN? Killer Vaca Muerta recovery. Possibly the Best specimen ever - certainly the best I have seen. Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
You got it all wrong. Nancy is fine. It was Rush Limbaugh who finally blew up! Good riddance. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 11/10/2010 6:36:11 PM Mountain Standard Time, rickm...@earthlink.net writes: Dr. Ted, best one yet. - Original Message - From: Ted Bunch tbe...@cableone.net To: cspr...@islandnet.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail Not a meteorite, Nancy Pelosi. Ted __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
I don't really know, but I'm sure, that right along with the B-2, A-12, F-117A, and the YF-22 aircrafts, that the Navy has sub launched stealth missile Dennis Miller From: joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:03:13 -0500 Subject: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail The flight path of a 757 was posted over the Catalina Island area at the time of the contrails by Rob: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE808/history/20101108/1955Z/PHNL/KPHX I find that to be very solid evidence for the contrail theory. Apparently jet contrails get confused for missles fairly often. If you read the comments at the bottom of the article, they reflect the exact arguments made about the current confusion. It's deja vu all over again. Or it could be George, his wife Jane and their daughter Judy, son Elroy and Astro their dog, celebrating Carl Sagan's birthday. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2010/01/27/nl-ufo-military-012710.html#socialcomments DND, RCMP mum on UFO mystery People who saw a missile-like object soaring through the sky over a small rural community in Newfoundland Monday night are getting no answers about what it was, although police say they'd gotten to the bottom of the mystery. Darlene Stewart spotted the object while taking pictures of the sunset over Harbour Mille, a community of about 200 residents on the south coast of the province. She says she started snapping photos. She then called her neighbour, Emmy Pardy, and the two women, along with Stewart's husband, say they saw three similar objects flying through the air minutes apart, one up close and two farther off in the distance. I really did get sick to my stomach, I was shaking when I seen it, Stewart told CBC News Wednesday. We were just in awe of what we seen. The photos taken by Stewart show blurry pictures of what appears to be a long, round object, much like a missile, seemingly rising from the ocean, with either smoke or flames shooting out the back end. Objects made no noise Stewart said the objects didn't make any noise. We confirmed that it was something, Sgt. Wayne Edgecombe told CBC News Wednesday. But Edgecombe said he couldn't reveal what the police investigation uncovered. He said the focus of any police investigation is on whether something criminal has occurred. It's nothing criminal, he said, in relation to the unidentified object. Edgecombe said he contacted the Department of National Defence and they gave me some info, but he said that it is up to that department to release the information publicly. Defence Department officials said they were aware of the reports, but were waiting on a final report before commenting and that the RCMP were in charge of the investigation. However, the RCMP released a statement Wednesday referring all media inquiries on the subject to Public Safety Canada. That department referred inquiries back to the RCMP. The sighting has intrigued people in the Harbour Mille area, with some saying they were told by officers who were in the community Tuesday investigating the sightings, that the objects were test missiles launched from the nearby French islands of St. Pierre and Miquelon. Edgecombe said that rumour is completely false. The French Ministry of Defence posted a message on its website confirming it had launched a missile from a submarine this week but the time and direction didn't match with what was reportedly seen over the south coast of Newfoundland. The suggestion that the object possibly involved the military has Liberal MP Gerry Byrne, who represents the Newfoundland riding of Humber-St. Barbe-Baie Verte, demanding answers. There's a credible body of evidence, Byrne told CBC News, that suggests there's something spectacular happened off of our shore. Before this goes any farther, I think the government needs to actually respond very quickly with a straightforward, factual statement. Was safety in jeopardy? Byrne said if it was some kind of military test, then people should be told whether their safety was jeopardized. If indeed this was a man-made object, that it was a missile, was there any potential risk to health and safety from collateral damage should the missile fire have failed? Byrne used the mystery to take a shot at the federal government for proroguing Parliament. He said if the House of Commons was opened, he'd be able to question the ministers of defence, transport and public safety about the incident. It's cloaked in relative secrecy, he said. And the only way to get around that secrecy is a special institution called the floor of the House of Commons. Stewart said Tuesday she has been overwhelmed by the number of calls she has received about the sighting. But she said nobody has
Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
Yeah, Too much hot air and a serious gas leak to close to a fire source. --- On Thu, 11/11/10, impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com wrote: From: impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail To: rickm...@earthlink.net, tbe...@cableone.net, cspr...@islandnet.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 10:41 AM You got it all wrong. Nancy is fine. It was Rush Limbaugh who finally blew up! Good riddance. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 11/10/2010 6:36:11 PM Mountain Standard Time, rickm...@earthlink.net writes: Dr. Ted, best one yet. - Original Message - From: Ted Bunch tbe...@cableone.net To: cspr...@islandnet.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail Not a meteorite, Nancy Pelosi. Ted __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meteor meteorite chat open now
Dear List, Meteor/Meteorite chat room is open http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/ dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
Nancy and Rush got married and that was their spaceship to the Moon... ;) On 11/10/2010 5:41 PM, impact...@aol.com wrote: You got it all wrong. Nancy is fine. It was Rush Limbaugh who finally blew up! Good riddance. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 11/10/2010 6:36:11 PM Mountain Standard Time, rickm...@earthlink.net writes: Dr. Ted, best one yet. - Original Message - From: Ted Bunchtbe...@cableone.net To:cspr...@islandnet.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail Not a meteorite, Nancy Pelosi. Ted __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
I had hoped that nobody would bring the Pleidians and the Lizard People into this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M5Bf6TtW8wfeature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKx4MeBybkcfeature=player_embedded To Serve Man is a cookbook... Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com To: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; drtan...@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail Why is everyone beating around the bush here!? Isn't it obvious? We all know this was the Pleiadians and Lizard People who are going to explode America while Obama is in Asia http://wonkette.com/429668/pleiadians-lizard-people-going-to-explode-america-while-obama-is-in-asia On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com wrote: Hi All, We've seen this sort of thing before, folks. It's not a missile launch. It's just a sunlit contrail from an airliner flying toward (and to the right) of the camera. SLBMs are not launched so close to the California coastline, and certainly not without submitting a NOTAM. --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of impact...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 5:23 PM To: drtan...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; meteor...@meteorobs.org Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a Meteor? California A LAunch? In a message dated 11/9/2010 6:14:23 PM Mountain Standard Time, drtan...@yahoo.com writes: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2010/11/not-meteor-meteormeteo rite-news.html Hope FOX News checked their sources! Tokyo On AOL News: http://www.aolnews.com/surge-desk/article/mystery-missile-lights-up-los- angeles-skies/19709162?icid=main%7Cwelcome%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%7C183117 More reliable than Fox? Anne M. Black http://www.impactika.com/ impact...@aol.com President, I.M.C.A. Inc. http://www.imca.cc/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
I thought it was Sarah Palin's ego taking a spaceship to the moon. :-) There are rather common sightings here, the actual missile contrail is usually very fast. I remember the ABM tests over the Pacific and it was pretty cool to watch. Rob Holcomb Meteorite storage and preservation http://www.rholcomb.com -- From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:53 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail Nancy and Rush got married and that was their spaceship to the Moon... ;) On 11/10/2010 5:41 PM, impact...@aol.com wrote: You got it all wrong. Nancy is fine. It was Rush Limbaugh who finally blew up! Good riddance. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 11/10/2010 6:36:11 PM Mountain Standard Time, rickm...@earthlink.net writes: Dr. Ted, best one yet. - Original Message - From: Ted Bunchtbe...@cableone.net To:cspr...@islandnet.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail Not a meteorite, Nancy Pelosi. Ted __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN
Are these shows available on the Internet? I don't get any premium channels and would like to see what all the excitement is about. Rob Holcomb Meteorite storage and preservation http://www.rholcomb.com -- From: Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:39 PM To: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN Yes it was!!! AWESOME!!! Geoff and Steve both episodes so far have been great!! -Original Message- From: Michael Blood Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 4:21 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN Did y'all see the latest METEORITE MEN? Killer Vaca Muerta recovery. Possibly the Best specimen ever - certainly the best I have seen. Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN
You can watch Season 2 Episode 1 2 on Amazon.com. http://www.amazon.com/Alpha-Site-Kansas/dp/B004AUELE2/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8qid=1289443607sr=8-13 Season 1: http://www.amazon.com/Odessa-Iron-Meteorite-Crater-Texas/dp/B004AKCMN4/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8qid=1289443607sr=8-8 Enjoy... Eric On 11/10/2010 6:26 PM, Rob Holcomb wrote: Are these shows available on the Internet? I don't get any premium channels and would like to see what all the excitement is about. Rob Holcomb Meteorite storage and preservation http://www.rholcomb.com -- From: Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:39 PM To: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN Yes it was!!! AWESOME!!! Geoff and Steve both episodes so far have been great!! -Original Message- From: Michael Blood Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 4:21 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN Did y'all see the latest METEORITE MEN? Killer Vaca Muerta recovery. Possibly the Best specimen ever - certainly the best I have seen. Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Missile deja vu
Hi All, For the few remaining people that have lingering doubts about the cause of the November 8th southern California mystery contrail, I invite you to watch this YouTube video of a remarkably similar event seen from Key West, Florida, on New Years Eve 2008: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sVmjpDZLN0 Best, Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN
Eric, Great I can watch meteorite men finally thank you. Shawn Alan [meteorite-list] METEORITE MENMeteorites USA eric at meteoritesusa.com Wed Nov 10 21:49:33 EST 2010 Previous message: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN Next message: [meteorite-list] Which class matches a chondrite ,,, Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] You can watch Season 2 Episode 1 2 on Amazon.com. http://www.amazon.com/Alpha-Site-Kansas/dp/B004AUELE2/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8qid=1289443607sr=8-13 Season 1: http://www.amazon.com/Odessa-Iron-Meteorite-Crater-Texas/dp/B004AKCMN4/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8qid=1289443607sr=8-8 Enjoy... Eric On 11/10/2010 6:26 PM, Rob Holcomb wrote: Are these shows available on the Internet? I don't get any premium channels and would like to see what all the excitement is about. Rob Holcomb Meteorite storage and preservation http://www.rholcomb.com -- From: Stuart McDaniel actionshooting at carolina.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:39 PM To: Michael Blood mlblood at cox.net; Meteorite List meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN Yes it was!!! AWESOME!!! Geoff and Steve both episodes so far have been great!! -Original Message- From: Michael Blood Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 4:21 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN Did y'all see the latest METEORITE MEN? Killer Vaca Muerta recovery. Possibly the Best specimen ever - certainly the best I have seen. Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Previous message: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN Next message: [meteorite-list] Which class matches a chondrite ,,, Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
