[meteorite-list] Astromyxin - Star Jelley
Hi List, http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3886427/Lake-District-is-hit-by-The-Blob.html While trying to remember the name of the National Enquirer type tabloid newspaper of London which I though was called The Globe, I found this article ... Actually the Brits' tabloid is The Sun how could I forget the Globe was an 1800's tabloid in London oops ... Anyone have any experience with with this mysterious substance called Star Jelley which is reputed to result from meteor showers, though may actually be a set of different unrelated natural phenomena? Kindest wishes Doug __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Ebay auctions ending in one day
Hello List, I have a few nice auctions ending in one day. - Dar al Gani 400 (ALUN-A) - 0.04 g: http://www.ebay.com/itm/190612060575 - Divnoe (ACUNGR) - 0.22g: http://www.ebay.com/itm/190612060621 - Gebel Kamil (IRUNGR) - 942 g: http://www.ebay.com/itm/190612060691 - NWA 1242 [As Sarir] (MES-A2) 0.91 g: http://www.ebay.com/itm/190612060754 - Ulyanovsk (H5) - 0.02g: http://www.ebay.com/itm/190612060907 - Yurtuk (AHOW) - 0.42g: http://www.ebay.com/itm/190612060945 All auctions and store items here: http://stores.ebay.com/svassiliev?_rdc=1 Thanks for looking! Sergey --- Sergey Vasiliev U Dalnice 2684/1 Prague 5, 155 00 Czech Republic --- http://www.sv-meteorites.com http://impactites.net http://systematic-mineralogy.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Wold Cottage http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Astromyxin - Star Jelley
Hi Doug: I refer you to the February issue of Meteorite magazine (the real one): Star Slough and Pwdre Sêr by David Andrew White and Ángel M. Nieves-Rivera Abstract Nostoc commune is a species of cyanobacterium. Colonies of nostoc can form large gelatinous masses, even growing in open-air habitats. Folk beliefs about nostoc are ancient and varied. A recurring theme in this folklore has been the attribution of globules of nostoc to one celestial origin or another. There was even a widespread belief that nostoc were the remains of fallen stars. This recurring belief was probably instigated by the weirdness, and sudden appearance, of these enigmatic jellies. Larry Hi List, http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3886427/Lake-District-is-hit-by-The-Blob.html While trying to remember the name of the National Enquirer type tabloid newspaper of London which I though was called The Globe, I found this article ... Actually the Brits' tabloid is The Sun how could I forget the Globe was an 1800's tabloid in London oops ... Anyone have any experience with with this mysterious substance called Star Jelley which is reputed to result from meteor showers, though may actually be a set of different unrelated natural phenomena? Kindest wishes Doug __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD Pasamonte
Dear Lest Members, I down price for my Pasamonte piece with Museum Label to 450$ (without shipping). https://picasaweb.google.com/10086119851742847/Pasamonte02 First come first served.. illae...@gmail.com beside this, few Buy it Now auctions: http://www.ebay.com/sch/meteoritepoland/m.html?item=190607528972sspagename=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649_trksid=p4340.l2562 All the best Tomasz Jakubowski IMCA #2321 Managing Editor http://www.meteorites.pwr.wroc.pl/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Large 251 gram slice of the 'Blue Chondrite' NWA 1941
Hi all, I have a lovely large 251 gram full slice of the 'Blue Chondrite' NWA 1941 available for sale, please see the following link: (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250948537195?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649) I also have the following auctions on ebay at the moment, please take a look if interested: Full set 12 Nestle cards titled 'meteors meteorites' (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250938845216?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649) 2 x pieces (1 x broken specimen) of Carancas meteorite wighing 1.6 grams (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250940711331?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649) 0.83 gram part slice of historic Fisher meteorite. Fell 1894 Minnesota (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250944597141?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649) I am open to offers so if you are interested just let me know! Cheers Martin -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] LOTS OF MOON ROCKS GONE?
Hi, Anne: The missing samples involve material that NASA allocated to somebody and now the somebody or somebody's heirs can't find the sample. Many analyses are destructive. If an investigator wants a sample removed from her or his inventory that was destroyed in analysis, there's a simple form to fill out. The sample is removed from the investigator's inventory and recorded as destroyed in the NASA data base. Those samples would not be counted among the missing. I suspect that a number of the missing samples were, in fact, destroyed and the paperwork was not submitted. Most thin sections used by investigators are prepared at NASA JSC (a fine thin-sectioning lab). So, NASA keeps track of the mass loss there and that material is not counted among the missing. (In the data base, I think its called attrition.) When an investigator receives a thin section, the nominal mass of record is always 0.010 g. If you look at the histogram I sent, there's a big peak at 0.006-0.011. Most of these samples are 0.010-g thin sections. Thin sections are easy to lose. They count as a line item, but the mass of record is only 0.010 g. For the reasons you give, however, they represent a lot more material. hope this helps, Randy At 04:44 PM 2011-12-12 Monday, you wrote: Thank you Randy for this accounting. But it seems to me that other factors are being ignored. First of all some of your experiments and analysis are necessarily destructive, and you cannot account for material that has been vaporized, or dissolved. Also, some of that material has been cut to make thin-sections, with an unavoidable cutting and polishing loss. Yes those losses would be small, but I expect that other the years hundreds of experiments and thin-sections have been done, all these add up and probably account for at least some of the missing material. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _IMPACTIKA@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 12/12/2011 1:09:43 PM Mountain Standard Time, koro...@wustl.edu writes: I'd like to address this issue of missing Apollo samples as a researcher. I just checked my inventory. I have 999 (really!) line items of samples from the 6 Apollo and 3 Russian Luna landing sites from NASA. I can think of only 1 or 2 other researchers who might have more. The total mass is 320.064 g (0.08% of the collection). That's an average of 0.32 g/sample. But, even that number is misleading. The mass distribution looks like this. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/Korotev_NASA_Apollo__Luna_samples.jpg Only 49 of the samples exceed 1 gram is mass. All of the samples 3 g are not rocks but regolith (alias soil or dust) samples. The smallest samples are all thin sections. My point is that every article about this issue shows a photo of a big rock, and NASA just doesn't issue big rocks to us researchers. As someone else mentioned, I suspect the actual mass of missing material is not large. Randy Korotev __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Southern AZ cold find
Hi MikeG I got a pic over on facebook, But will put up some on photo bucket later. Ya I got a google earth map of all the recent finds across the US and there are no finds in this location. Yes I will get it sent in to be classified but there are 7 new finds ahead of it that need thin sections cut sent in. But before I send it in I gotta work the area over for more new finds see if there is more of it there , or if it's a loner out there all by its self. been raining here quite nicely for last few days. So once the sun comes out it will be time look over the area. My poor wife's gotta put up with this 53 year old kid. So not sure if she could handle a 41 yo son as well :) happy hunting Scott Johnson U.S. AirBorne Sport Aviation LLC Eagles Nest Airpark Sport Pilot C.F.I WSC-L WSC-S www.usairborne.com i...@usairborne.com Office 509-780-0554 Cell 509-780-8377 -- From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 2:22 PM To: U.S. Airborne onther...@usairborne.com Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Southern AZ cold find Hi Scott, You sound like the adventurer and explorer. I envy your globetrotting and access to the remote outdoors. You are living the dream many of us share - hunting meteorites outside your back door. :) Your clan seems to have a natural affinity for finding meteorites? Are you looking to adopt a 41-yo son? If I join the clan, maybe I can start finding meteorites with equal success! I promise to keep my room clean and do my chores in a timely manner. ;) Do you have any photos to share of the new finds? And do you plan on getting these finds classified? You should really consider getting them classified and check your find coordinates against known finds and see if your stones are paired with any known meteorites. Best regards and good luck! MikeG -- * Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone *** On 12/12/11, U.S. Airborne onther...@usairborne.com wrote: Its been quite some time since I last posted to the list . I think it was last summer when I was in Shetland Islands up in the arctic circle helping film whale wars with animal channel Sea Sheppard . Hunting for meteorites in old Scottish rock walls was about as exciting as my summer of hunting got. I had such big plans for hunts all across the west but because of being outta the country most all summer a big nothing was all I got . Mid Oct. My wife Terri I closed the flight park up in WA state headed out for the winter of meteorite hunting flying Our 1st stop over for meteorite hunting was Northern NV for a great hunt where we located 4 new meteorites in 3 days of hunting. It was getting chilly up in northern NV so we headed for warmer air in SO AZ. During our travels in the rv we ran across some really amazing buys on property so we bought a nice 1 acre place out in the desert NW of Tucson AZ . So finally yesterday one of my dreams came true my wife Terri, pup Sundance my self went out on our 1st meteorite hunt since we moved into the new AZ CASA. We were only out 15 min from the house when we started hunting some nice old desert pavement areas. In less then 1 hour and not even 50 ft from where I parked the 4x4 buggy ,Terri found her 1st cold find. I must say that girl has a great eye for them space rocks has found for far share this last year. Over this last year she has really gotten bit hard by the meteorite bug now wants to hunt as much as I do . I sliced her find open when we got home it's a nice little OC most likely a H . Its been one of my dreams to live where I could walk out side my house hunt meteorites. So I can see now the next 20 years will be filled with lots of exciting hunting trips. I can fly my little aircraft outta here to any remote location with in 500 miles of here . Kinda like a kid in a candy store. Gotta love life here in America still home of the free. Also an other great big plus with this location is Iam not far from the Tucson show. I be dreaming of a new meteorite fall for the SW just any day now. Happy Holidays to All of the meteorite lovers across the globe Happy hunting to all. The Johnson Clan (Scott ,Terri, Sundance Rio) U.S. AirBorne Sport Aviation LLC Eagles Nest Airpark Sport Pilot C.F.I WSC-L WSC-S www.usairborne.com i...@usairborne.com Office 509-780-0554 Cell 509-780-8377 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
[meteorite-list] In-Situ Pics
Hi all! Thought you might like to see these. Recent finds, In-Situ macros. Enjoy! https://k7wfr.us/ScrapBook/12092011/DSCN0535.JPG https://k7wfr.us/ScrapBook/12092011/DSCN0536.JPG https://k7wfr.us/ScrapBook/12092011/DSCN0541.JPG https://k7wfr.us/ScrapBook/12092011/DSCN0542.JPG Jim Jim Wooddell https://k7wfr.us __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Which meteorite showers were visible in the USA in December 1847?
Hi, I'm following up a research question and I'm not sure of the answer. I am trying to find out whether any meteorite shower would have been visible to the naked eye, and mentioned in newspapers, in the first week of December 1847. Any ideas? Many thanks, Chris __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Which meteorite showers were visible in the USA in December 1847?
Although not a major shower that year, I'd suspect the Andromedids. This shower is associated with the comet 3D/Biela, which broke up around the time you are interested in, resulting in years with impressive meteor storms, as well as an increase in fireball rates. Because of the comet breakup, there was a lot of interest at the time in this shower, and it was observed on December 6, 1847. Today, the Andromedids are a very minor shower which peaks in mid-November. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 12/13/2011 8:50 AM, chris aubeck wrote: Hi, I'm following up a research question and I'm not sure of the answer. I am trying to find out whether any meteorite shower would have been visible to the naked eye, and mentioned in newspapers, in the first week of December 1847. Any ideas? Many thanks, Chris __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Which meteorite showers were visible in the USA in December 1847?
Hi Chris, I did consider the Andromedids but I didn't think they'd be visible or much discussed. Would the interest expressed in that shower have been published before or after December 6th? Also I checked 19th century newspaper archives for the term Andromedids but couldn't find anything for 1847. Thanks again, Chris __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
What a fantastic write-up and photos! The first Extra-terrestrial celebrity. Brilliant job guys! Get's better all the time, thank you! Craig From: valpar...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com CC: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 04:00:01 -0700 Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day Wold Cottage http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Which meteorite showers were visible in the USA in December 1847?
They used to be called the Bielids. These were definitely being studied closely by astronomers in 1847, and there is a record of their observation for that year. I have no idea if the 1847 shower was strong enough to attract public interest- it certainly was no great storm. If a paper were reporting on the scientific observation, it would probably have been after December 6. The Geminids are another possibility, although this shower was not known before the 1860s. But that doesn't mean that the debris stream wasn't there, or that we couldn't have encountered a dense region in 1847. Geminids are active in the first week of December, although they peak in mid-December (and did so 100 years ago, as well). Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 12/13/2011 9:20 AM, chris aubeck wrote: Hi Chris, I did consider the Andromedids but I didn't think they'd be visible or much discussed. Would the interest expressed in that shower have been published before or after December 6th? Also I checked 19th century newspaper archives for the term Andromedids but couldn't find anything for 1847. Thanks again, Chris __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The 2011 Geminid Meteor Shower
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/13dec_geminids/ The 2011 Geminid Meteor Shower NASA Science News December 13, 2011 The 2011 Geminid meteor shower peaks on the night of Dec. 13-14, and despite the glare of a nearly-full Moon, it might be a good show. Observers with clear skies could see as many as 40 Geminids per hour, predicts Bill Cooke of the NASA Meteoroid Environment Office. Our all-sky network of meteor cameras has captured several early Geminid fireballs. They were so bright, we could see them despite the moonlight. The best time to look is between 10 pm local time on Tuesday, Dec. 13, and sunrise on Wednesday, Dec. 14th. Geminids, which spray out of the constellation Gemini, can appear anywhere in the sky. Dress warmly and look up, says Cooke. It's that simple. The source of the Geminids is near-Earth asteroid 3200 Phaethon. Most meteor showers come from comets, so having an asteroid as a parent makes the Geminids a bit of an oddball. This is the thing I love most about Geminids, says Cooke. They're so strange. Every year in mid-December, Earth runs through a trail of dusty debris that litters the orbit of 3200 Phaethon. Comets vaporizing in hot sunlight naturally produce such debris trails, but rocky asteroids like 3200 Phaethon do not. At least they're not supposed to. The incongruity has baffled researchers since 1983 when 3200 Phaethon was discovered by NASA's IRAS satellite. One clue: 3200 Phaethon travels unusually close to the sun. The asteroid's eccentric orbit brings it well inside the orbit of Mercury every 1.4 years. The rocky body thus receives a regular blast of solar heating that might somehow boil jets of dust into the Geminid debris stream. In 2009, NASA's STEREO-A spacecraft saw this process at work. Coronagraphs onboard the solar observatory watched 3200 Phaethon as it was swinging by the sun. Sure enough, the asteroid doubled in brightness, probably because it was spewing jets of dust. The most likely explanation is that Phaethon ejected dust, perhaps in response to a break-down of surface rocks (through thermal fracture and decomposition cracking of hydrated minerals) in the intense heat of the Sun, wrote UCLA planetary scientists David Jewitt and Jing Li, who analyzed the data. Jewett and Li's rock comet hypothesis is compelling, but they point out a problem: The amount of dust 3200 Phaethon ejected during its 2009 sun-encounter added a mere 0.01% to the mass of the Geminid debris stream--not nearly enough to keep the stream replenished over time. Perhaps the rock comet was more active in the past � We just don't know, says Cooke. Every new thing we learn about the Geminids seems to deepen the mystery. Led by Cooke, the Meteoroid Environment Office has just released an app for iPhones and iPads to help citizen scientists count meteors and report their observations to NASA. The Meteor Counter is available for free from Apple's app store: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/meteor-counter/id466896415 Cooke hopes sky watchers everywhere will use it to monitor the mysterious Geminids. Author:Dr. Tony Phillips Production editor: Dr. Tony Phillips Credit: Science@NASA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Significant Sungrazing Comet + Geminid Meteor Shower
Space Weather News for Dec. 13, 2011 http://spaceweather.com GEMINID METEOR SHOWER: Earth is passing through a stream of debris from near-Earth asteroid 3200 Phaethon, source of the annual Geminid meteor shower. Forecasters expect meteor rates to reach 20-to-40 per hour when the shower peaks in bright moonlight on the night of Dec.13/14. The best time to look, no matter where you live, is between 10 pm local time on Tuesday, Dec. 13, and sunrise on Wednesday, Dec. 14th. Check http://spaceweather.com for more information and live audio from a meteor radar. BIG SUNDIVING COMET: A comet nearly as wide as two football fields (200m) is plunging toward the sun where it will most likely be destroyed in a spectacular light show on Dec. 15/16. Solar glare will hide the event from human eyes, but NASA and ESA spacecraft should have a grand view. Check http://spaceweather.com for full coverage. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Doug gets all the credit. I just move pictures from server A to server B. Paul Swartz What a fantastic write-up and photos! The first Extra-terrestrial celebrity. Brilliant job guys! Get's better all the time, thank you! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Thanks kindly Craig and Paul, Hi list; Paul wrote: I just move pictures from server A to server B. Not true! I can't believe all the attention Paul gives MPOD to keep it rolling on time every time, and as any editor knows, nothing is as easy as it sounds when you have to sit down and do it. Did anyone notice the scale cube? I used it because it was antique brass and seemed to better fit Wold Cottage than other ones with high tech looks. But this precision German made cube really has the letters printed upside-down! Oops ;-) Never noticed that until I looked at the image. The silver shilling coin (a bob in slang) is also in the image for scale, nearly the same size and weight of a US quarter coin ($0.25), it weighed 6 grams and was one inch in diameter (2.5 cm). The mintage year in the image (1787) is the one that would be most commonly used to pay the admission price to see the Wold Cottage meteorite in its 1796 exhibition, since coin mintings were not done annually then. These are available on eBay for around $25 to $50 if anyone wants a hopefully authentic coin to complement their Wold Cottage specimens. Today, the counterpart of the bob is the UK 5-pence piece (since the 1970's when shillings were dropped), or nickel in the US. The US nickel was so-named 'a nickel', because half-dimes used to be silver, just as shillings were, and then the composition was switched - to (mostly) 75% copper and 25% nickel -. The original US nickels were actually one cent pieces (pennies), but a shortage of silver to make the easy to loose small, popular half-dimes after the American Civil War returned the pennies to copper, though smaller, and left the bright colored five-cent coins as the newly minted 'nickels' we know today. Kindest wishes, Doug -Original Message- From: Craig Moody meteoritesno...@hotmail.ca To: valparint valpar...@aol.com; MetList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, Dec 13, 2011 11:29 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day What a fantastic write-up and photos! The first Extra-terrestrial celebrity. Brilliant job guys! Get's better all the time, thank you! Craig From: valpar...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com CC: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 04:00:01 -0700 Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day Wold Cottage http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD -54 Auctions Ending Today - No Reserves!
Dear List Members, I have 54 auctions ending today. All started at just 99 cents with no reserve. Many do not even have opening bids yet so you may want to take a look if you can spare a few moments. Link to all auctions: http://shop.ebay.com/raremeteorites!/m.html Thank you for looking and if you are bidding, good luck. Kindest Regards, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection IMCA 2185 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Astromyxin - Star Jelley
Thanks Larry! I'll need to get my missing issues of Meteorite and read up something more authoritative! From what I've googled, some of the Star Jelley has no DNA associated with it but who knows whether this is true; I wonder what was the case in the Philadelphia incident. Wikipedia says the 50's horror movie, The Blob, set in Phoenixville, Pennsylvania, inspired by the real six foot quivering mass discovered there, was originally to be titled The Molten Meteor. Kindest wsihes Doug -Original Message- From: lebofsky lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu To: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com Cc: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, Dec 13, 2011 6:12 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astromyxin - Star Jelley Hi Doug: I refer you to the February issue of Meteorite magazine (the real one): Star Slough and Pwdre Sêr by David Andrew White and Ángel M. Nieves-Rivera Abstract Nostoc commune is a species of cyanobacterium. Colonies of nostoc can form large gelatinous masses, even growing in open-air habitats. Folk beliefs about nostoc are ancient and varied. A recurring theme in this folklore has been the attribution of globules of nostoc to one celestial origin or another. There was even a widespread belief that nostoc were the remains of fallen stars. This recurring belief was probably instigated by the weirdness, and sudden appearance, of these enigmatic jellies. Larry Hi List, http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3886427/Lake-District-is-hit-by-The-Blob.html While trying to remember the name of the National Enquirer type tabloid newspaper of London which I though was called The Globe, I found this article ... Actually the Brits' tabloid is The Sun how could I forget the Globe was an 1800's tabloid in London oops ... Anyone have any experience with with this mysterious substance called Star Jelley which is reputed to result from meteor showers, though may actually be a set of different unrelated natural phenomena? Kindest wishes Doug __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Comet Lovejoy in STEREO B
Hi All, I've created an 81-frame movie of Comet Lovejoy approaching the sun as seen by STEREO B. Zipped, the avi file is about 7 meg, but if anyone wants to check it out I can e-mail it to them. It shows nice detail in the tail (which ~still~ extends beyond the field of view of the camera!). -Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Astromyxin - Star Jelley
Sounds like it could be Jelly Fungi. It grows in the woods behind my house, albeit in a slightly different form and color. Or, perhaps it is a hoax. I suspect the latter. http://herbarium.usu.edu/fungi/funfacts/Jellyfungi.htm Ed - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:57 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Astromyxin - Star Jelley Hi List, http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3886427/Lake-District-is-hit-by-The-Blob.html While trying to remember the name of the National Enquirer type tabloid newspaper of London which I though was called The Globe, I found this article ... Actually the Brits' tabloid is The Sun how could I forget the Globe was an 1800's tabloid in London oops ... Anyone have any experience with with this mysterious substance called Star Jelley which is reputed to result from meteor showers, though may actually be a set of different unrelated natural phenomena? Kindest wishes Doug __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Allende meteorite selling for around $40 a gram!!!
This shows how the big auctions are only scams legalized to raise prices, which are meteorites or paintings or photographs. Tomorrow I propose my Allende for $ 40/gr to the same auction house and see if they really want to buy at the price they did. Matteo M come Meteorite Meteoriti i...@mcomemeteorite.it http://www.mcomemeteorite.it http://www.mcomemeteorite.eu Mindat Gallery http://www.mindat.org/gallery-5018.html ChinellatoPhoto Servizi Fotografici http://www.chinellatophoto.com Da: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com A: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Data: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:42:37 -0800 (PST) Oggetto: [meteorite-list] Allende meteorite selling for around $40 a gram!!! Hello Listers Now I know Allende has always had a stable value per gram which has been around $10 to $12 a gram depending on the market or collection it comes from. But now, it seems that the value has jumped up for one auction on a 23gram slice, selling for $1000 at the Natural History Bonhams auction yesterday in Lo Ang, California. So it seems Allende is making a run for its value and it might be smart to get your hands on some before the market trend follows and might have to pay a new value of around $40 a gram. The price you have to pay for science and space, but for everything else, there is MasterCard :) http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19429/lot/1097/ Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay story http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Allende meteorite selling for around $40 a gram!!!
They're not scams... People who can afford it will pay what they want. Who has the right to set prices? We all do, but it's the buyer who decides what they're willing to pay. - yinan Sent from my iPhone On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:52 PM, M come Meteorite i...@mcomemeteorite.it wrote: This shows how the big auctions are only scams legalized to raise prices, which are meteorites or paintings or photographs. Tomorrow I propose my Allende for $ 40/gr to the same auction house and see if they really want to buy at the price they did. Matteo M come Meteorite Meteoriti i...@mcomemeteorite.it http://www.mcomemeteorite.it http://www.mcomemeteorite.eu Mindat Gallery http://www.mindat.org/gallery-5018.html ChinellatoPhoto Servizi Fotografici http://www.chinellatophoto.com Da: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com A: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Data: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:42:37 -0800 (PST) Oggetto: [meteorite-list] Allende meteorite selling for around $40 a gram!!! Hello Listers Now I know Allende has always had a stable value per gram which has been around $10 to $12 a gram depending on the market or collection it comes from. But now, it seems that the value has jumped up for one auction on a 23gram slice, selling for $1000 at the Natural History Bonhams auction yesterday in Lo Ang, California. So it seems Allende is making a run for its value and it might be smart to get your hands on some before the market trend follows and might have to pay a new value of around $40 a gram. The price you have to pay for science and space, but for everything else, there is MasterCard :) http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19429/lot/1097/ Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay story http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Media Invited To Simulated Asteroid Campout In Houston
Dec. 13, 2011 J.D. Harrington/Michael J. Braukus Headquarters, Washington 202-358-5241/1979 j.d.harring...@nasa.gov/michael.j.brau...@nasa.gov Amiko Kauderer Johnson Space Center, Houston 281-483-5111 amiko.kaudere...@nasa.gov MEDIA ADVISORY: M11-248 MEDIA INVITED TO SIMULATED ASTEROID CAMPOUT IN HOUSTON HOUSTON -- For three days this week, a small part of NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston will simulate a human mission to an asteroid. Reporters are invited to observe what the mission might entail. As NASA continues plans to send humans to explore asteroids and other destinations beyond low-Earth orbit, a number of questions are being asked about how astronauts could live and work in space. NASA astronaut Mike Gernhardt and geologist Brent Garry of the Planetary Science Institute in Tucson, Ariz., will spend three days and two nights living inside the cabin of a prototype multi-mission Space Exploration Vehicle (SEV) answering some of those questions. Reporters may visit the test site at 10:30 a.m. CST on Thursday, Dec. 15, during a simulated spacewalk in which a crew member will use a microgravity simulator. To attend contact Amiko Kauderer at amiko.kaudere...@nasa.gov by 5 p.m. on Wednesday. The public is invited to ask the crew questions via twitter @Desert_RATS; for a Twitterview the crew will participate in at 11 a.m. on Friday, Dec. 16. Questions should be marked #SEV. Normally, the cabin of the SEV prototype is used atop a wheeled chassis, but wheels are of no use in the microgravity environment of an asteroid. Instead, the cabin would be used on a propelled sled allowing crew members to maneuver around the asteroid. To simulate such an environment, the SEV will be on an air-bearing floor allowing it to virtually float, much like an air hockey puck. The crew will see how the SEV handles in a simulated microgravity environment. The tests are part of NASA's Research and Technology Studies (RATS) program that will evaluate and provide data for future generations of SEV cabins. The test will be repeated in January with a different crew. Both tests will be used to develop a fully integrated RATS test at Johnson in August. This series of tests and will be used to evaluate existing tools that could be used to simulate spacewalks on an asteroid. The only time the crew will leave the SEV during the tests will be to perform simulated spacewalks. Test equipment and laboratories include: -- Johnson's virtual reality laboratory, also used to train astronauts for both space shuttle and International Space Station spacewalks -- A chair with thrusters previously used for testing the Manned Maneuvering Unit, a jet pack designed to allow astronauts to perform untethered spacewalks -- The Active Response Gravity Offload System, or ARGOS, a system that suspends astronauts in spacesuits from a beam and simulated different amounts of gravity. During the media event, a crew member will conduct a simulated spacewalk using ARGOS For information about the Desert RATS tests, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/desertrats For more information about the multi-mission Space Exploration Vehicle, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/exploration/home/SEV.html Follow Desert RATS via Twitter at: http://www.twitter.com/Desert_RATS -end- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites Supposedly Start Forest Fire
The idea that small meteorites can start fires has become common knowledge in the mind of the general public. I like how he calls them nickel rocks, and how they speculate in the last paragraph that meteor showers may have started the Chicago Fire! http://kdrv.com/oregon_trails/233107 By Ron Brown SAMS VALLEY, Ore. -- This past summer marks the 17th anniversary of one of the biggest fire seasons in Southern Oregon in several years, including the Hull Mountain Fire in Sams Valley. Investigators are pretty sure that fire was arson-caused. There was another fire in the same area just a few weeks later. It was called the Sprignet Butte Fire, and burned over a thousand acres in the Evans Creek area. Those who were in the Rogue Valley in the summer of 1994 remember it as a particularly bad year for wildfires. Within weeks of the end of the Hull Mountain Fire, which burned several homes and killed a man, another fire broke out near Sprignet Butte, just a mile or so from the start of the Hull Mountain Fire. Investigators say several ignition points were located, near a forest road. It certainly looked like the work of arsonists, maybe the same person who started the Hull Mountain Fire, but could there be another explanation? Sharon Weeg thinks so. She lived near there then, and had already been evacuated three times because of fires that summer. She says fire investigators then were skeptical. They'd never heard of a meteorite started a wildfire. After all these years, she's convinced that space rock landed in the tinder-dry forest and started the Sprignet Butte Fire. The question always remained... What happened to any of that meteorite? Could it have survived? And could it still be up there? That's where Tony Gallios comes into the story. Earlier this year he met Sharon Weeg at Accurate Locators in Gold Hill, shopping for parts for his metal detector. When she told him about the meteorite she saw, his curiosity led him to go on a search into the hills near east Evans Creek, to see if he couldn't find a trace of that space rock. Gallios found three pieces of nickel rock that seems to meet all the tests so far for being a meteorite. There were three pieces, all within a few inches of each other. All seem to fit together. Gallios says he's in contact with the Cascadia Meteorite Laboratory to confirm that it is, in fact, a space rock. It's been a little over 17 years ago when the Sprignet Butte Fire burned across those hills, scorching almost 1,200 acres. State fire investigators at first thought it was an arsonist that started those fires. Now there's a chance that the stones that were found by Tony Guillios could've been meteorites that could actually started a good part of that fire. Dick Pugh with the Cascadia Meteorite Lab is attempting to catalogue every meteorite that's ever landed in Oregon. He says there's about a half dozen so far and the first were actually just a few miles from the rock Tony Found, on Sams Creek near Gold Hill. Actually, several pieces were found mostly by gold miners. Others have been found near Klamath Falls, in Antelope Valley, and near Lakeview. If the meteorites did start the Sprignet Butte Fire, there may be other pieces still out there. Not hot any more, but perhaps the smoking guns fire investigators have been looking for almost two decades. Scientists and fire investigators are not sure that meteorites the size of the objects found by Gallios really can start fires. Some speculate that a rash of fires in 1871, including the great Chicago Fire and the Peshtigo, Wisconsin Fire could have be linked to meteor showers that summer. Meanwhile, others observers say meteorites are actually too cool when they hit the ground to start a fire. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Astromyxin - Star Jelley
Dear Doug, List, The original discovery of this recent mess of star jelly can be found at this blog: http://helvellyn.wordpress.com/2011/10/20/star-jelly-by-ullswater/ and a followup here: http://helvellyn.wordpress.com/2011/11/08/star-jelly-solve-the-mystery/ This is where the British press got onto the story and there are links to the BBC and other coverage of the story in the UK. There are finds in the same district in 2009. That great chronicler of mysteries, Charles Fort, reports jelly masses going back centuries but almost always reports them as being identified with egg-masses or the like: http://www.resologist.net/damn04.htm Star Jelly has been reported falling from the sky as early as the 13th century; the name actually being found in a dictionary from 1440. Historical archives in Pennsylvania include reports that go back as far as the 1600s... http://www.dystopiantimes.com/content/star-jelly And please, let's not forget angel hair, rains of frogs (and toads), fish, shrimp, and of course, the Red Rain of India. It's a frequent event; it wasn't hard to find TV News reports: http://www.wtae.com/r-video/29122861/detail.html and even a witnessed fall: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QVXLEnNTJQ Despite what the Wikipedia says in its entry on Star Jelly, the National Geographic has never commissioned scientists to identify it; the reference is to one of NatGeo's fake science shows: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oet-TDJWTo Since samples are collected from exposed environments, they are expectedly contaminated with a variety of DNA's. Fungal growth is found in them but is not the source. Here are some expert comments from the North-of-England 2009 reports: http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/outdoors/articles/jelly/ Star Jelly? Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:57 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Astromyxin - Star Jelley Hi List, http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3886427/Lake-District-is-hit-by-The-Blob.html While trying to remember the name of the National Enquirer type tabloid newspaper of London which I though was called The Globe, I found this article ... Actually the Brits' tabloid is The Sun how could I forget the Globe was an 1800's tabloid in London oops ... Anyone have any experience with with this mysterious substance called Star Jelley which is reputed to result from meteor showers, though may actually be a set of different unrelated natural phenomena? Kindest wishes Doug __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Astromyxin - Star Jelley
Hello Ed: Did you read my email? No, it is not a hoax, just not from space. It has been written about for something like 450 years. Larry Sounds like it could be Jelly Fungi. It grows in the woods behind my house, albeit in a slightly different form and color. Or, perhaps it is a hoax. I suspect the latter. http://herbarium.usu.edu/fungi/funfacts/Jellyfungi.htm Ed - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:57 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Astromyxin - Star Jelley Hi List, http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3886427/Lake-District-is-hit-by-The-Blob.html While trying to remember the name of the National Enquirer type tabloid newspaper of London which I though was called The Globe, I found this article ... Actually the Brits' tabloid is The Sun how could I forget the Globe was an 1800's tabloid in London oops ... Anyone have any experience with with this mysterious substance called Star Jelley which is reputed to result from meteor showers, though may actually be a set of different unrelated natural phenomena? Kindest wishes Doug __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Allende meteorite selling for around $40 a gram!!!
Hi, I don't understand your intemperance. The suggestion that auctions are inherently scams is bewildering. There are deals to be found at auctionsand objects zealously fought over; an auction house merely makes the market. Please also consider it was the traditional auctions in the mid-90s that resulted in an avalanche of media that created a burst of interest in meteorites---which was among the catalysts to a new generation of hunters. As I said previously, Allende was an anomaly. On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:52 PM, M come Meteorite wrote: This shows how the big auctions are only scams legalized to raise prices, which are meteorites or paintings or photographs. Tomorrow I propose my Allende for $ 40/gr to the same auction house and see if they really want to buy at the price they did. Matteo M come Meteorite Meteoriti i...@mcomemeteorite.it http://www.mcomemeteorite.it http://www.mcomemeteorite.eu Mindat Gallery http://www.mindat.org/gallery-5018.html ChinellatoPhoto Servizi Fotografici http://www.chinellatophoto.com Da: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com A: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Data: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:42:37 -0800 (PST) Oggetto: [meteorite-list] Allende meteorite selling for around $40 a gram!!! Hello Listers Now I know Allende has always had a stable value per gram which has been around $10 to $12 a gram depending on the market or collection it comes from. But now, it seems that the value has jumped up for one auction on a 23gram slice, selling for $1000 at the Natural History Bonhams auction yesterday in Lo Ang, California. So it seems Allende is making a run for its value and it might be smart to get your hands on some before the market trend follows and might have to pay a new value of around $40 a gram. The price you have to pay for science and space, but for everything else, there is MasterCard :) http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19429/lot/1097/ Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay story http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Allende meteorite selling for around $40 a gram!!!
Hi, Agreed on all countsexcept that Tatahouine (which is indeed a great meteorite) has some pretty good company.;-) On Dec 13, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Hi Darryl and List, It's not that Allende isn't worth $40 a gram, but the TKW is so large that it's hard to justify paying that much for it when the market is flush with quality specimens. We've been trained to think that Allende is a bargain and so it is. Another good example is Tatahouine - probably the world's most undervalued meteorite. It is a witnessed fall diogenite of exquisite beauty that has no parallel on the market, yet it regularly sells for $10/g or less. Then we see recent ordinary chondrite falls selling for $50-$80/g because of marketing - go figure? The one thing I have learned in my time of collecting (and dealing) meteorites is this - there is no rhyme or reason to the meteorite market. She is a fickle mistress. Best regards, MikeG -- * Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone *** On 12/13/11, Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com wrote: Hi, I don't understand your intemperance. The suggestion that auctions are inherently scams is bewildering. There are deals to be found at auctionsand objects zealously fought over; an auction house merely makes the market. Please also consider it was the traditional auctions in the mid-90s that resulted in an avalanche of media that created a burst of interest in meteorites---which was among the catalysts to a new generation of hunters. As I said previously, Allende was an anomaly. On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:52 PM, M come Meteorite wrote: This shows how the big auctions are only scams legalized to raise prices, which are meteorites or paintings or photographs. Tomorrow I propose my Allende for $ 40/gr to the same auction house and see if they really want to buy at the price they did. Matteo M come Meteorite Meteoriti i...@mcomemeteorite.it http://www.mcomemeteorite.it http://www.mcomemeteorite.eu Mindat Gallery http://www.mindat.org/gallery-5018.html ChinellatoPhoto Servizi Fotografici http://www.chinellatophoto.com Da: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com A: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Data: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:42:37 -0800 (PST) Oggetto: [meteorite-list] Allende meteorite selling for around $40 a gram!!! Hello Listers Now I know Allende has always had a stable value per gram which has been around $10 to $12 a gram depending on the market or collection it comes from. But now, it seems that the value has jumped up for one auction on a 23gram slice, selling for $1000 at the Natural History Bonhams auction yesterday in Lo Ang, California. So it seems Allende is making a run for its value and it might be smart to get your hands on some before the market trend follows and might have to pay a new value of around $40 a gram. The price you have to pay for science and space, but for everything else, there is MasterCard :) http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19429/lot/1097/ Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay story http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Supposedly Start Forest Fire
That's a nice picture of a handful of magnetite at the top of the article, too. -Michael in so. Cal. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:10 PM, dorifry dori...@embarqmail.com wrote: The idea that small meteorites can start fires has become common knowledge in the mind of the general public. I like how he calls them nickel rocks, and how they speculate in the last paragraph that meteor showers may have started the Chicago Fire! http://kdrv.com/oregon_trails/233107 By Ron Brown SAMS VALLEY, Ore. -- This past summer marks the 17th anniversary of one of the biggest fire seasons in Southern Oregon in several years, including the Hull Mountain Fire in Sams Valley. Investigators are pretty sure that fire was arson-caused. There was another fire in the same area just a few weeks later. It was called the Sprignet Butte Fire, and burned over a thousand acres in the Evans Creek area. Those who were in the Rogue Valley in the summer of 1994 remember it as a particularly bad year for wildfires. Within weeks of the end of the Hull Mountain Fire, which burned several homes and killed a man, another fire broke out near Sprignet Butte, just a mile or so from the start of the Hull Mountain Fire. Investigators say several ignition points were located, near a forest road. It certainly looked like the work of arsonists, maybe the same person who started the Hull Mountain Fire, but could there be another explanation? Sharon Weeg thinks so. She lived near there then, and had already been evacuated three times because of fires that summer. She says fire investigators then were skeptical. They'd never heard of a meteorite started a wildfire. After all these years, she's convinced that space rock landed in the tinder-dry forest and started the Sprignet Butte Fire. The question always remained... What happened to any of that meteorite? Could it have survived? And could it still be up there? That's where Tony Gallios comes into the story. Earlier this year he met Sharon Weeg at Accurate Locators in Gold Hill, shopping for parts for his metal detector. When she told him about the meteorite she saw, his curiosity led him to go on a search into the hills near east Evans Creek, to see if he couldn't find a trace of that space rock. Gallios found three pieces of nickel rock that seems to meet all the tests so far for being a meteorite. There were three pieces, all within a few inches of each other. All seem to fit together. Gallios says he's in contact with the Cascadia Meteorite Laboratory to confirm that it is, in fact, a space rock. It's been a little over 17 years ago when the Sprignet Butte Fire burned across those hills, scorching almost 1,200 acres. State fire investigators at first thought it was an arsonist that started those fires. Now there's a chance that the stones that were found by Tony Guillios could've been meteorites that could actually started a good part of that fire. Dick Pugh with the Cascadia Meteorite Lab is attempting to catalogue every meteorite that's ever landed in Oregon. He says there's about a half dozen so far and the first were actually just a few miles from the rock Tony Found, on Sams Creek near Gold Hill. Actually, several pieces were found mostly by gold miners. Others have been found near Klamath Falls, in Antelope Valley, and near Lakeview. If the meteorites did start the Sprignet Butte Fire, there may be other pieces still out there. Not hot any more, but perhaps the smoking guns fire investigators have been looking for almost two decades. Scientists and fire investigators are not sure that meteorites the size of the objects found by Gallios really can start fires. Some speculate that a rash of fires in 1871, including the great Chicago Fire and the Peshtigo, Wisconsin Fire could have be linked to meteor showers that summer. Meanwhile, others observers say meteorites are actually too cool when they hit the ground to start a fire. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Astromyxin - Star Jelley
Hello Larry: I missed seeing your email. That makes a lot of sense, thanks for the clarity. Thankfully, that's one form of falling star that I won't have to worry about collecting! ;-) Hmmm... I wonder if it goes good with peanut butter? ;-) Ed - Original Message - From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu To: Ed Deckert edeck...@triad.rr.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astromyxin - Star Jelley Hello Ed: Did you read my email? No, it is not a hoax, just not from space. It has been written about for something like 450 years. Larry Sounds like it could be Jelly Fungi. It grows in the woods behind my house, albeit in a slightly different form and color. Or, perhaps it is a hoax. I suspect the latter. http://herbarium.usu.edu/fungi/funfacts/Jellyfungi.htm Ed - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:57 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Astromyxin - Star Jelley Hi List, http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3886427/Lake-District-is-hit-by-The-Blob.html While trying to remember the name of the National Enquirer type tabloid newspaper of London which I though was called The Globe, I found this article ... Actually the Brits' tabloid is The Sun how could I forget the Globe was an 1800's tabloid in London oops ... Anyone have any experience with with this mysterious substance called Star Jelley which is reputed to result from meteor showers, though may actually be a set of different unrelated natural phenomena? Kindest wishes Doug __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Link to Comet Lovejoy movie
Hi All, Jim Wooddell has kindly offered to host my movie of Comet Lovejoy entering STEREO B. You can download the video at one of the following links: ZIP file of AVI: https://k7wfr.us/RobertMatson/Lovejoy_StereoB.zip Unzipped AVI file: https://k7wfr.us/RobertMatson/Lovejoy_StereoB.avi Thanks Jim! --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New App Helps NASA Keep Track of Meteoroids
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/13dec_meteorcounter/ New App Helps NASA Keep Track of Meteoroids NASA Science News December 13, 2011 Surprising but true: Every day, on average, more than 40 tons of meteoroids strike our planet. Most are tiny specks of comet dust that disintegrate harmlessly high up in Earth's atmosphere, producing a slow drizzle of meteors in the night sky. Bigger chunks of asteroid and comet debris yield dozens of nightly fireballs around the globe. Some are large enough to pepper the ground with actual meteorites. With so much stuff zeroing in on our planet, NASA could use some help keeping track of it all. Enter the Meteor Counter -- a new iPhone app designed to harness the power of citizen scientists to keep track of meteoroids. Using our app, people from all walks of life can contribute to authentic NASA research, says Bill Cooke of NASA's Meteoroid Environment Office, which sponsored the project. The data will help us discover new meteor showers, pinpoint comet debris streams, and map the distribution of meteoroids around Earth's orbit. Whenever you go outside for a bit of stargazing, take your iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch with you, advises Cooke. Start the Meteor Counter, lie down in a safe dark place, and be alert for shooting stars. The Meteor Counter operates using an intuitive piano key interface. Every time you see a meteor, simply tap the key corresponding to its brightness. Keys on the left correspond to dim meteors - barely visible to the naked eye; keys on the right denote jaw-dropping fireballs. With each keytap, the Meteor Counter records critical data such as the time you saw the meteor, the meteor's magnitude, and your location. You can even turn on an optional voice recorder to capture your own description of events. Experts could comment on the trajectory and radiant of the meteor, while novices might prefer to simply shout out--wow! Afterward, these data are automatically uploaded to NASA researchers for analysis. The Meteor Counter is designed for all kinds of observers, ranging from experts with experience in science-grade meteor observations to first-time sky watchers who might never have seen a meteor before. The beauty of our app is that it gradually transforms novices into experts, says Cooke. As an observer gains experience, we weight their data accordingly in our analyses. The Meteor Counter also acts as a meteor shower alert system. When a known shower is in the offing, the app pops up a reminder for observers. A news feed and events calendar is routinely updated by professional scientists to keep users informed of the latest meteor happenings. Cooke encourages citizen scientists everywhere to try it out. The app is available free of charge in Apple's app store, he says. Just search for Meteor Counter, and let the observing begin. Author:Dr. Tony Phillips Production editor: Dr. Tony Phillips Credit: Science@NASA *More Information* Download the Meteor Counter http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/meteor-counter/id466896415 Complete instructions for using the Meteor Counter app are available at: http://meteorcounter.com/ NASA astronomer Bill Cooke is head of the NASA Meteoroid Environment Office http://www.nasa.gov/offices/meo/home/index.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Link to Comet Lovejoy movie
Thanks for that clip. It's much better than the others I've found on various websites. It gives one a sense of what poor old Lovejoy is heading into! Yes, it's unlikely there will be anything left after it passes only 87,000 miles above the solar surface, but it would a fine Christmas present if there was a brief negative magnitude comet show afterwards. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:51 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Link to Comet Lovejoy movie Hi All, Jim Wooddell has kindly offered to host my movie of Comet Lovejoy entering STEREO B. You can download the video at one of the following links: ZIP file of AVI: https://k7wfr.us/RobertMatson/Lovejoy_StereoB.zip Unzipped AVI file: https://k7wfr.us/RobertMatson/Lovejoy_StereoB.avi Thanks Jim! --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad/sale Many .99 cent auctions ending in less than 1 day!
Hello everyone I have gone a little crazy and listed a bunch of .99 cent auctions on E bay they normally sell REALLY cheap when I list them that way if you want to get a killer deal look no further http://www.ebay.com/sch/flattoprocks/m.html?_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A5841rt=nc_sticky=1_trksid=p3911.c0.m14_sop=1_sc=1 Nothing really expensive but you might like some of them. Thanks for looking! -- Mike Miller 3835 E Nicole Ave Kingman Az 86409 www.meteoritefinder.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New App Helps NASA Keep Track of Meteoroids
Is there one for the Droid?? Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com -Original Message- From: Ron Baalke Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 7:11 PM To: Meteorite Mailing List Subject: [meteorite-list] New App Helps NASA Keep Track of Meteoroids http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/13dec_meteorcounter/ New App Helps NASA Keep Track of Meteoroids NASA Science News December 13, 2011 Surprising but true: Every day, on average, more than 40 tons of meteoroids strike our planet. Most are tiny specks of comet dust that disintegrate harmlessly high up in Earth's atmosphere, producing a slow drizzle of meteors in the night sky. Bigger chunks of asteroid and comet debris yield dozens of nightly fireballs around the globe. Some are large enough to pepper the ground with actual meteorites. With so much stuff zeroing in on our planet, NASA could use some help keeping track of it all. Enter the Meteor Counter -- a new iPhone app designed to harness the power of citizen scientists to keep track of meteoroids. Using our app, people from all walks of life can contribute to authentic NASA research, says Bill Cooke of NASA's Meteoroid Environment Office, which sponsored the project. The data will help us discover new meteor showers, pinpoint comet debris streams, and map the distribution of meteoroids around Earth's orbit. Whenever you go outside for a bit of stargazing, take your iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch with you, advises Cooke. Start the Meteor Counter, lie down in a safe dark place, and be alert for shooting stars. The Meteor Counter operates using an intuitive piano key interface. Every time you see a meteor, simply tap the key corresponding to its brightness. Keys on the left correspond to dim meteors - barely visible to the naked eye; keys on the right denote jaw-dropping fireballs. With each keytap, the Meteor Counter records critical data such as the time you saw the meteor, the meteor's magnitude, and your location. You can even turn on an optional voice recorder to capture your own description of events. Experts could comment on the trajectory and radiant of the meteor, while novices might prefer to simply shout out--wow! Afterward, these data are automatically uploaded to NASA researchers for analysis. The Meteor Counter is designed for all kinds of observers, ranging from experts with experience in science-grade meteor observations to first-time sky watchers who might never have seen a meteor before. The beauty of our app is that it gradually transforms novices into experts, says Cooke. As an observer gains experience, we weight their data accordingly in our analyses. The Meteor Counter also acts as a meteor shower alert system. When a known shower is in the offing, the app pops up a reminder for observers. A news feed and events calendar is routinely updated by professional scientists to keep users informed of the latest meteor happenings. Cooke encourages citizen scientists everywhere to try it out. The app is available free of charge in Apple's app store, he says. Just search for Meteor Counter, and let the observing begin. Author:Dr. Tony Phillips Production editor: Dr. Tony Phillips Credit: Science@NASA *More Information* Download the Meteor Counter http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/meteor-counter/id466896415 Complete instructions for using the Meteor Counter app are available at: http://meteorcounter.com/ NASA astronomer Bill Cooke is head of the NASA Meteoroid Environment Office http://www.nasa.gov/offices/meo/home/index.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Link to Comet Lovejoy movie
Hi Rob, No problemglad to do it. What is interestingor am I looking at it wrong, it appears to be slipping as if in a cross windlink an airplane slipping to make a landing ??? Jim Jim Wooddell https://k7wfr.us - Original Message - From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:51 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Link to Comet Lovejoy movie Hi All, Jim Wooddell has kindly offered to host my movie of Comet Lovejoy entering STEREO B. You can download the video at one of the following links: ZIP file of AVI: https://k7wfr.us/RobertMatson/Lovejoy_StereoB.zip Unzipped AVI file: https://k7wfr.us/RobertMatson/Lovejoy_StereoB.avi Thanks Jim! --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Allende meteorite selling for around $40 a gram!!!
Anything is worth what someone is willing to pay. Greg S Sent from my iPhone On Dec 13, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com wrote: Hi, Agreed on all countsexcept that Tatahouine (which is indeed a great meteorite) has some pretty good company.;-) On Dec 13, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Hi Darryl and List, It's not that Allende isn't worth $40 a gram, but the TKW is so large that it's hard to justify paying that much for it when the market is flush with quality specimens. We've been trained to think that Allende is a bargain and so it is. Another good example is Tatahouine - probably the world's most undervalued meteorite. It is a witnessed fall diogenite of exquisite beauty that has no parallel on the market, yet it regularly sells for $10/g or less. Then we see recent ordinary chondrite falls selling for $50-$80/g because of marketing - go figure? The one thing I have learned in my time of collecting (and dealing) meteorites is this - there is no rhyme or reason to the meteorite market. She is a fickle mistress. Best regards, MikeG -- * Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone *** On 12/13/11, Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com wrote: Hi, I don't understand your intemperance. The suggestion that auctions are inherently scams is bewildering. There are deals to be found at auctionsand objects zealously fought over; an auction house merely makes the market. Please also consider it was the traditional auctions in the mid-90s that resulted in an avalanche of media that created a burst of interest in meteorites---which was among the catalysts to a new generation of hunters. As I said previously, Allende was an anomaly. On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:52 PM, M come Meteorite wrote: This shows how the big auctions are only scams legalized to raise prices, which are meteorites or paintings or photographs. Tomorrow I propose my Allende for $ 40/gr to the same auction house and see if they really want to buy at the price they did. Matteo M come Meteorite Meteoriti i...@mcomemeteorite.it http://www.mcomemeteorite.it http://www.mcomemeteorite.eu Mindat Gallery http://www.mindat.org/gallery-5018.html ChinellatoPhoto Servizi Fotografici http://www.chinellatophoto.com Da: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com A: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Data: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:42:37 -0800 (PST) Oggetto: [meteorite-list] Allende meteorite selling for around $40 a gram!!! Hello Listers Now I know Allende has always had a stable value per gram which has been around $10 to $12 a gram depending on the market or collection it comes from. But now, it seems that the value has jumped up for one auction on a 23gram slice, selling for $1000 at the Natural History Bonhams auction yesterday in Lo Ang, California. So it seems Allende is making a run for its value and it might be smart to get your hands on some before the market trend follows and might have to pay a new value of around $40 a gram. The price you have to pay for science and space, but for everything else, there is MasterCard :) http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19429/lot/1097/ Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay story http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Illusion of sliding comet
Hi Jim, The slide you're seeing is due to our (or rather STEREO's) changing perspective on the comet relative to the background. Remember that we (and the two STEREOs) are in orbit about the sun, too, so there are two motions going on. Our observing platform is sliding to the right relative to the sun, coupled with the comet's parabolic orbit coming up from the south. --Rob -Original Message- From: Jim Wooddell [mailto:nf11...@npgcable.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:57 PM To: Matson, Robert D.; Meteorite Mailing List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Link to Comet Lovejoy movie Hi Rob, No problemglad to do it. What is interestingor am I looking at it wrong, it appears to be slipping as if in a cross windlink an airplane slipping to make a landing ??? Jim __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fun challenge: predict the future NWA
Hi List, Seems like a bit of a slow news cycle (accept for Dawn, and Lovejoy, and tonight's shower), so I'm throwing out a fun challenge: Seems like yesterday that NWAs were numbered in the 3000 range; we turn once-around and we're mostly through 6000+; SO...considering the general concensus that NWAs are 'drying up out there' ...what number NWA will be the final classified by the end of 2012; and what K-number will be the last?? Richard Montgomery __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Illusion of sliding comet
G'Day Rob, Jim and List Really enjoyed that Rob and thank you Jim for stepping up and posting it on your site. As for the slipping, that was intriguing, something I had not thought about. Cheers John Cabassi IMCA 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Matson, Robert D. Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 5:19 PM To: Jim Wooddell; Meteorite Mailing List Subject: [meteorite-list] Illusion of sliding comet Hi Jim, The slide you're seeing is due to our (or rather STEREO's) changing perspective on the comet relative to the background. Remember that we (and the two STEREOs) are in orbit about the sun, too, so there are two motions going on. Our observing platform is sliding to the right relative to the sun, coupled with the comet's parabolic orbit coming up from the south. --Rob -Original Message- From: Jim Wooddell [mailto:nf11...@npgcable.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:57 PM To: Matson, Robert D.; Meteorite Mailing List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Link to Comet Lovejoy movie Hi Rob, No problemglad to do it. What is interestingor am I looking at it wrong, it appears to be slipping as if in a cross windlink an airplane slipping to make a landing ??? Jim __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fun challenge: predict the future NWA
G'Day Richard and list I vote for NWA 231. It's been a passion, still being classified and it's time for it to come to light. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=nwa+231sfor=namesants=; falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=nam ecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normaltablecode=31470 Out of all my meteorites, this I have paid the utmost attention to. Low number. We have the main mass and I'd like to bring closure to it. Anthony Love at App State is doing the classification Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Richard Montgomery Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 5:22 PM To: 'Meteorite-list List' Subject: [meteorite-list] Fun challenge: predict the future NWA Hi List, Seems like a bit of a slow news cycle (accept for Dawn, and Lovejoy, and tonight's shower), so I'm throwing out a fun challenge: Seems like yesterday that NWAs were numbered in the 3000 range; we turn once-around and we're mostly through 6000+; SO...considering the general concensus that NWAs are 'drying up out there' ...what number NWA will be the final classified by the end of 2012; and what K-number will be the last?? Richard Montgomery __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Link to Comet Lovejoy movie
Thank you Robert, Jim, Wow--are there any estimates of distance traveled during the 81 frames and in what actual time frame. Best, John - Original Message - From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 5:51 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Link to Comet Lovejoy movie Hi All, Jim Wooddell has kindly offered to host my movie of Comet Lovejoy entering STEREO B. You can download the video at one of the following links: ZIP file of AVI: https://k7wfr.us/RobertMatson/Lovejoy_StereoB.zip Unzipped AVI file: https://k7wfr.us/RobertMatson/Lovejoy_StereoB.avi Thanks Jim! --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Murchison Keeps on Giving
http://news.wustl.edu/news/Pages/23097.aspx http://news.wustl.edu/news/Pages/23097.aspx $1.38 million to pick 'large' pieces of supernova grit out of meteorite Tour de force experiment to reveal how elements that make up our bodies and our planet were forged December 12, 2011 By Diana Lutz Joe Angeles/WUSTL Ernst Zinner, and Ann Nguyen, then a doctoral student in earth and planetary sciences, study a grain of stardust in the NanoSIMS (Secondary Ion Mass Spectrometer) lab at Washington University in St. Louis. Ernst K. Zinner, PhD, research professor of physics and earth and planetary sciences in Arts Sciences has received a three-year, $1,380,000 grant from the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) to study presolar grains in a sample of the Murchison meteorite, a primitive meteorite that fell to Earth near the town of Murchison, Australia, in 1969. Presolar grains are literally tiny bits of stars — stardust — that were born and died billions of years ago, before the formation of the solar system. From a generous chunk of the meteorite, Zinner hopes to extract exceptionally large grains that came from supernovae, giant stars that exploded at the ends of their lives. The larger grains will allow him to make more comprehensive measurements and, in turn, achieve a clearer understanding of what happened in these long-extinct stars -- where most of the elements that make up our bodies and our Earth were forged. Until the 1960s, most scientists believed that the early solar system got so hot that presolar material could not have survived intact. However, in the mid-1960s, researchers started finding unusual isotopic ratios of the noble gases neon and xenon in certain types of meteorites. The fact that these volatile gases were still there suggested that they were trapped in very refractory (heat-resistant) mineral grains. In 1987, Ed Anders and his co-workers at the University of Chicago and Zinner and his colleagues at WUSTL succeeded in identifying diamond and silicon carbide as the noble gas carriers. This was achieved by dissolving meteorites in acid, a method described by Anders as burning down the haystack to find the needle.” Wikimedia Commons A piece of the Murchison meteorite on display at the National Museum of Natural History in Washington, D.C. Ernst Zinner will be studying roughly 100 grains of supernova dust he will extract from half a kilogram of the meteorite by dissolving the rest in acids. Presolar grains are very small, typically only a few millionths of a meter across, so sophisticated instruments are needed to study them. Zinner will be using an ion microprobe, a type of Secondary Ion Mass Spectrometer, or SIMS, instrument that achieves high spatial resolution by using a finely focused ion beam. Zinner himself developed many of the techniques that allow the microprobe to perform such precise analytical work. SIMS works by sandblasting a sample and passing the electrically charged debris that comes flying off through electric and magnetic fields that sort it by mass. The masses, in turn, identify individual elements and their isotopes. The isotopic compositions of the grains allow the scientists to understand the evolution of the stars from which the grains originated, especially the nuclear processes that created the elements of which the grains consist. “What I want to do in this project,” Zinner says, “is to locate as many supernova grains as possible that are large enough that we can do measurements of many different elements. “Presolar grains have survived in the Murchison meteorite,” Zinner says, “because it is primitive, or unprocessed. It is a piece of an asteroid that was small enough that the rock never melted or separated according to density. “We’ll extract the silicon carbide grains by using a series of acids to dissolve away the rest of the meteorite. It’s a simple process,” he says, “but it took 20 years to figure out it was possible. “We’ll start with half a kilogram of Murchison, which is a lot,” he says. “Usually people don’t want to give you more than a few grams of a meteorite. But fortunately quite a lot of material fell at Murchison, about 200 kilograms, so we could obtain a large amount of it.” Scott Messenger A silicon carbide grain is only a few microns across, smaller than a yeast cell or red blood cell, but it has traveled across space and time bearing the secrets of its parent star within it. The silicon carbide grains are only a small fraction of the meteorite, and Zinner wants to select only the biggest of them, those that are five microns in diameter or bigger. Once he has his big grains, he’ll separate those originating from supernova from those originating in red giants. This will be done by isotopic analysis, he explains. One of the silicon isotopes is mostly made in supernovae, he says, and by looking at the silicon isotopic composition, the ion probe can
