Re: [meteorite-list] If you have a Tulia, Dimmitt or Kaffir stone with early Monnig no., please read this message

2012-03-11 Thread The Tricottet Collection 

Thank you for all of your contributions so far.

You can see the catalog of early Monnig numbers at: 
http://www.thetricottetcollection.com/pub_met_MonnigNumbers_suppl_Table1.html
The cataloging is still ongoing; and your help is much appreciated to continue 
to improve it.

Arnaud

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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2012-03-11 Thread valparint 
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: SAU 001

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp
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[meteorite-list] AD Chinese New Fall on ebay ending within 20 hours

2012-03-11 Thread 博方 李 
Dear lists:

I brought some fragments of the Chinese New Fall on Feb 11th, 2012 in order to 
suit the needs of the collectors who sent me the emails.
Here are the links:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Xining-Huangzhong-China-Witness-Fall-Meteorite-Feb-11-2012-Crusted-1-9g-/200724697302?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ebc1fd0d6

http://www.ebay.com/sch/blueandwhitemeteorite/m.html?hash=item2ebc1fd0d6&item=200724697302&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_trksid=p4340.l2562

Thanks for viewing.
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[meteorite-list] Berthoud Main Mass. Weld County, Colorado, USA. Fell October 5, 2004. 13:30 local daylight time (UT-6) Achondrite (eucrite)

2012-03-11 Thread ROCKS FROM SPACE 
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/berthoud-main-mass.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] (meteorobs) wrong behaviour of list

2012-03-11 Thread GeoZay 
It looks normal to me  also
GeoZay

In a message dated 3/11/2012 3:15:22 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
marco.langbr...@wanadoo.nl writes:
Op 11-3-2012 06:41, Pete  Pete schreef:
> Interesting!
> For the past two days every post  notification is showing as from 
(Unknown);
> Thread heading as (No  Subject).
> The email content itself appears to be normal, once  opened.
> I had assumed it was an issue with my provider (Cogeco, in  Canada)

The e-mails look normal here at my place.

- Marco  

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[meteorite-list] An Impactor Origin for Lunar Magnetic Anomalies

2012-03-11 Thread Paul H. 
Ancient impact may explain moon’s magnetic mystery
(Anomalies near crater suggest scattering of iron-rich 
debris) by Nadia Drake, Science News, March 9th, 2012
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/339067/title/Ancient_impact_may_explain_moon’s_magnetic_mystery

Huge Asteroid Impact Linked to Moon's Magnetic 
Hotspots by Charles Q. Choi, SPACE.com< march 8, 2012
http://www.space.com/14836-asteroid-collision-moon-magnetism.html

The paper is:

Wieczorek, M. A., B. P. Weiss, and S. T. Stewart, 2012,
An Impactor Origin for Lunar Magnetic Anomalies.
Science. vol. 335, no. 6073, pp. 1212-1215
DOI: 10.1126/science.1214773
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/335/6073/1212.abstract

PDF file of this paper is downloadable from:
http://scripts.mit.edu/~paleomag/articles/Wieczorek_2012_Science.pdf

Yours,

Paul H.
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[meteorite-list] Ad-Tissint, Allende, Peekskill, museum irons

2012-03-11 Thread Matt Morgan 
I have some auctions ending today. Please have a look here:
.

Thanks
Matt

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P.O. Box 151293
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USA
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[meteorite-list] meteorite for watch dial

2012-03-11 Thread Marcin Cimala 

Hi
If anyone have unused slices of iron meteorite that can be used in watch 
dial or have any fragment of iron meteorite prepared to cut such round 
slices (I have seen gibeon or muonio cut in Tucson and Munich) please 
contact me.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components

2012-03-11 Thread Michael Blood 
A major element in the problem with most of those calling
Themselves Christians these days is that they
See God as an anthropomorphic individual. This makes it
Difficult to see the "glory" or creation in anything other
Than comic book images.

They actually envision God as a big (male) human who
Literally, with His hands, shaped Adam out of mud.
They cannot even see what a nearly perfect allegory that is
For evolution arising from a primeval "soup."

Evidence of transpermia is growing - but don't confuse
Them with facts.

Odd
Michael




On 3/10/12 5:58 AM, "Dick Lipke"  wrote:

> Years ago I got a lot of questionable looks concerning my sanity when I
> brought up
> the idea of meteorites being "the Johny Appleseed of of life on Earth" to
> members of my astronomy club.
> Needless to say it resulted in many,many comments of out rage.
> They reminded me of how it must have felt to be among the first
> to refute the idea that Earth was the center of the Universe.
> Lucky for me my kind of thinking came in 20th century, back then they still
> burnt 
> people at the stake for being possessed by satin.
> 
> 
> Richard Lipke
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
>> Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components
>> ScienceDaily, March 9, 2012,
>> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120309104845.htm
>> 
>> Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components
>> Klaus Schmidt, March 10, 2012
>> http://spacefellowship.com/news/art27926/meteorites-reveal-another-way-to-mak
>> e-life-s-components.html
>> 
>> The paper is:
>> 
>> Burton, A. S., J. E. Elsila, M. P. Callahan, M. G. Martin, D. P.
>> Glavin, N. M. Johnson, and J. P. Dworkin. A propensity
>> for n-w-amino acids in thermally altered Antarctic
>> meteorites. Meteoritics & Planetary Science. Article
>> first published online: 8 March 2012
>> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2012.01341.x/abstract
>> 
>> best wishes,
>> 
>> Paul H.
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[meteorite-list] AD - 46 Gram Bensour No Reserve + Others

2012-03-11 Thread Rob Wesel 

If you're in a shopping mood, there's some deals to be had
http://www.ebay.com/sch/nakhladog/m.html

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components

2012-03-11 Thread Dick Lipke 
Micheal, 
That is an excellent point that has always baffled me and I could never 
understand the thinking 
 of any religion in this world. All the different Gods worshiped world wide 
have always been considered a male.
Which brings up the problem, "Which came first, the chicken or the egg."
I think all these religions could be easier to swallow if their God was a 
female.
That would answer the question, she "God" was a female carrying the first egg 
that resulted
 in the birth of the universe.

 

Richard Lipke


- Original Message -
> A major element in the problem with most of those calling
> Themselves Christians these days is that they
> See God as an anthropomorphic individual. This makes it
> Difficult to see the "glory" or creation in anything other
> Than comic book images.
> 
> They actually envision God as a big (male) human who
> Literally, with His hands, shaped Adam out of mud.
> They cannot even see what a nearly perfect allegory that is
> For evolution arising from a primeval "soup."
> 
> Evidence of transpermia is growing - but don't confuse
> Them with facts.
> 
> Odd
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/10/12 5:58 AM, "Dick Lipke"  wrote:
> 
> > Years ago I got a lot of questionable looks concerning my sanity
> > when I
> > brought up
> > the idea of meteorites being "the Johny Appleseed of of life on
> > Earth" to
> > members of my astronomy club.
> > Needless to say it resulted in many,many comments of out rage.
> > They reminded me of how it must have felt to be among the first
> > to refute the idea that Earth was the center of the Universe.
> > Lucky for me my kind of thinking came in 20th century, back then
> > they still
> > burnt
> > people at the stake for being possessed by satin.
> >
> >
> > Richard Lipke
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> >> Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components
> >> ScienceDaily, March 9, 2012,
> >> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120309104845.htm
> >>
> >> Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components
> >> Klaus Schmidt, March 10, 2012
> >> http://spacefellowship.com/news/art27926/meteorites-reveal-another-way-to-mak
> >> e-life-s-components.html
> >>
> >> The paper is:
> >>
> >> Burton, A. S., J. E. Elsila, M. P. Callahan, M. G. Martin, D. P.
> >> Glavin, N. M. Johnson, and J. P. Dworkin. A propensity
> >> for n-w-amino acids in thermally altered Antarctic
> >> meteorites. Meteoritics & Planetary Science. Article
> >> first published online: 8 March 2012
> >> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2012.01341.x/abstract
> >>
> >> best wishes,
> >>
> >> Paul H.
> >> __
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[meteorite-list] Ad - howardite thin sections w/CM2 inclusions

2012-03-11 Thread Edwin Thompson 

Hi list members,

We just got in a very nice selection of high quality thin sections of our 
howardite NWA-6695. We sent two complete stones for thin section making in 
order to get large sections from the center of two distinct stones. The results 
are stunning! The surface area on each thin section is at least 15mm x 20mm and 
each slice shows a number of small, beautiful cm2 carbonaceous inclusions 
within the matrix of this gorgeous howardite. In Tucson last year we bought a 
group of small, gorgeous, fresh achondrites from a Moroccan dealer. He told us 
that this was the entire strewn field found by the Berber he bought them from 
just before coming to Tucson for the show. We had Marlin Cilz slice a few of 
the stones and found that every slice had these cm2 inclusions. So it was a 
natural that we had to have some thin sections made. There are slides from both 
stones. Some are covered and some are not covered for the sake of probing. We 
also had several 5/8" round thin section slides made for micr
 o probe work. We are selling the 6695 for $120.00 each plus shipping.

We also still have a couple of thin sections remaining of our NWA 6693 (Super 
Green) the pyroxenite.  Drop us a line if you would like to add one of these 
stunning slides to your collection at etmeteori...@hotmail.com we'll send 
pictures.

 

Looking forward to hearing from you thin section collectors!

 

Cheers, Edwin 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components

2012-03-11 Thread Gary K. Foote 
As a Christian and a lover of meteorites and all things scientific I think
this is a perfect topic for a full blown treatise.  If you will all bear
with me, offering your questions and opinions along the way, I would love
to tackle this in a manner that will hopefully meld as many
issues/questions as possible into a singular 'answer' that may be
enlightening and logical.

Interested?  I sure am!  Great topic Michael.

Gary

On Sun, March 11, 2012 5:23 pm, Dick Lipke wrote:
> Micheal,
> That is an excellent point that has always baffled me and I could never
> understand the thinking
>  of any religion in this world. All the different Gods worshiped world
> wide have always been considered a male.
> Which brings up the problem, "Which came first, the chicken or the egg."
> I think all these religions could be easier to swallow if their God was a
> female.
> That would answer the question, she "God" was a female carrying the first
> egg that resulted
>  in the birth of the universe.
>
>
>
> Richard Lipke
>
>
> - Original Message -
>> A major element in the problem with most of those calling
>> Themselves Christians these days is that they
>> See God as an anthropomorphic individual. This makes it
>> Difficult to see the "glory" or creation in anything other
>> Than comic book images.
>>
>> They actually envision God as a big (male) human who
>> Literally, with His hands, shaped Adam out of mud.
>> They cannot even see what a nearly perfect allegory that is
>> For evolution arising from a primeval "soup."
>>
>> Evidence of transpermia is growing - but don't confuse
>> Them with facts.
>>
>> Odd
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/10/12 5:58 AM, "Dick Lipke"  wrote:
>>
>> > Years ago I got a lot of questionable looks concerning my sanity
>> > when I
>> > brought up
>> > the idea of meteorites being "the Johny Appleseed of of life on
>> > Earth" to
>> > members of my astronomy club.
>> > Needless to say it resulted in many,many comments of out rage.
>> > They reminded me of how it must have felt to be among the first
>> > to refute the idea that Earth was the center of the Universe.
>> > Lucky for me my kind of thinking came in 20th century, back then
>> > they still
>> > burnt
>> > people at the stake for being possessed by satin.
>> >
>> >
>> > Richard Lipke
>> >
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> >> Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components
>> >> ScienceDaily, March 9, 2012,
>> >> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120309104845.htm
>> >>
>> >> Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components
>> >> Klaus Schmidt, March 10, 2012
>> >> http://spacefellowship.com/news/art27926/meteorites-reveal-another-way-to-mak
>> >> e-life-s-components.html
>> >>
>> >> The paper is:
>> >>
>> >> Burton, A. S., J. E. Elsila, M. P. Callahan, M. G. Martin, D. P.
>> >> Glavin, N. M. Johnson, and J. P. Dworkin. A propensity
>> >> for n-w-amino acids in thermally altered Antarctic
>> >> meteorites. Meteoritics & Planetary Science. Article
>> >> first published online: 8 March 2012
>> >> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2012.01341.x/abstract
>> >>
>> >> best wishes,
>> >>
>> >> Paul H.
>> >> __
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components

2012-03-11 Thread Michael Blood 
Hi Richard,

As an Anthropologist I can assure you all religions have NOT
Viewed God as male - some were female and some were non-gender
Specific "spirit."

Garry, I agree with you - interesting topic, but I fear a good many
On the list would see it as non-meteorite related in spite of the fact
That transpermia (via meteorites) compels such a discussion about why
People "of faith" would reject transpermia out of hand. They damned
Near tortured Galileo to death for saying the world was not the center
Of the universe (and he lived the remainder of his life under house arrest).
 
  Religious persecution of scientific recognition of inconvenient
facts has always been part of history and continues to this day - most
religions holding the view, "the way we see things IS the way things are"
while others overtly state that view AND feel the DUTY to kill anyone
when sees things differently - hence 9/11.

Weird, weird, weird & weirder.

Michael


On 3/11/12 2:23 PM, "Dick Lipke"  wrote:

> Micheal, 
> That is an excellent point that has always baffled me and I could never
> understand the thinking
>  of any religion in this world. All the different Gods worshiped world wide
> have always been considered a male.
> Which brings up the problem, "Which came first, the chicken or the egg."
> I think all these religions could be easier to swallow if their God was a
> female.
> That would answer the question, she "God" was a female carrying the first egg
> that resulted
>  in the birth of the universe.
> 
>  
> 
> Richard Lipke
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
>> A major element in the problem with most of those calling
>> Themselves Christians these days is that they
>> See God as an anthropomorphic individual. This makes it
>> Difficult to see the "glory" or creation in anything other
>> Than comic book images.
>> 
>> They actually envision God as a big (male) human who
>> Literally, with His hands, shaped Adam out of mud.
>> They cannot even see what a nearly perfect allegory that is
>> For evolution arising from a primeval "soup."
>> 
>> Evidence of transpermia is growing - but don't confuse
>> Them with facts.
>> 
>> Odd
>> Michael
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/10/12 5:58 AM, "Dick Lipke"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Years ago I got a lot of questionable looks concerning my sanity
>>> when I
>>> brought up
>>> the idea of meteorites being "the Johny Appleseed of of life on
>>> Earth" to
>>> members of my astronomy club.
>>> Needless to say it resulted in many,many comments of out rage.
>>> They reminded me of how it must have felt to be among the first
>>> to refute the idea that Earth was the center of the Universe.
>>> Lucky for me my kind of thinking came in 20th century, back then
>>> they still
>>> burnt
>>> people at the stake for being possessed by satin.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard Lipke
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
 Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components
 ScienceDaily, March 9, 2012,
 http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120309104845.htm
 
 Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components
 Klaus Schmidt, March 10, 2012
 http://spacefellowship.com/news/art27926/meteorites-reveal-another-way-to-m
 ak
 e-life-s-components.html
 
 The paper is:
 
 Burton, A. S., J. E. Elsila, M. P. Callahan, M. G. Martin, D. P.
 Glavin, N. M. Johnson, and J. P. Dworkin. A propensity
 for n-w-amino acids in thermally altered Antarctic
 meteorites. Meteoritics & Planetary Science. Article
 first published online: 8 March 2012
 
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2012.01341.x/abstrac
t
 
 best wishes,
 
 Paul H.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components

2012-03-11 Thread Richard Montgomery 

Hi Michael and List (a different Richard here!)

Contrary to the often mis-conception that 'religion' and 'God' are 
interchangeable...and considering the 'dangerous' ground upon which a 
discussion of this sort may be inappropriate for the meteoritical discussion 
hereallow me this thought:


A person of 'faith' may not rule out transpernmia in theory;  it simply 
expands the pie.  A 'religious' person tied tether-bound to a strick 
doctrine may reject such an 'outlandish' notion out-of-hand, as it disrupts 
the entire reality from which their foundation is built.


In short, (in my small and insignificant yet human perspective), it should 
be rational to allow both transpermia and a perspective of God that 
trancends all current 'views' of even Christianity, allowing for all three 
to co-existjust a thought


Richard Montgomery


- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Blood" 
To: "Dick Lipke" ; "Meteorite List" 


Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's 
Components




Hi Richard,

   As an Anthropologist I can assure you all religions have NOT
Viewed God as male - some were female and some were non-gender
Specific "spirit."

   Garry, I agree with you - interesting topic, but I fear a good many
On the list would see it as non-meteorite related in spite of the fact
That transpermia (via meteorites) compels such a discussion about why
People "of faith" would reject transpermia out of hand. They damned
Near tortured Galileo to death for saying the world was not the center
Of the universe (and he lived the remainder of his life under house 
arrest).


 Religious persecution of scientific recognition of inconvenient
facts has always been part of history and continues to this day - most
religions holding the view, "the way we see things IS the way things are"
while others overtly state that view AND feel the DUTY to kill anyone
when sees things differently - hence 9/11.

   Weird, weird, weird & weirder.

   Michael


On 3/11/12 2:23 PM, "Dick Lipke"  wrote:


Micheal,
That is an excellent point that has always baffled me and I could never
understand the thinking
 of any religion in this world. All the different Gods worshiped world 
wide

have always been considered a male.
Which brings up the problem, "Which came first, the chicken or the egg."
I think all these religions could be easier to swallow if their God was a
female.
That would answer the question, she "God" was a female carrying the first 
egg

that resulted
 in the birth of the universe.



Richard Lipke


- Original Message -

A major element in the problem with most of those calling
Themselves Christians these days is that they
See God as an anthropomorphic individual. This makes it
Difficult to see the "glory" or creation in anything other
Than comic book images.

They actually envision God as a big (male) human who
Literally, with His hands, shaped Adam out of mud.
They cannot even see what a nearly perfect allegory that is
For evolution arising from a primeval "soup."

Evidence of transpermia is growing - but don't confuse
Them with facts.

Odd
Michael




On 3/10/12 5:58 AM, "Dick Lipke"  wrote:


Years ago I got a lot of questionable looks concerning my sanity
when I
brought up
the idea of meteorites being "the Johny Appleseed of of life on
Earth" to
members of my astronomy club.
Needless to say it resulted in many,many comments of out rage.
They reminded me of how it must have felt to be among the first
to refute the idea that Earth was the center of the Universe.
Lucky for me my kind of thinking came in 20th century, back then
they still
burnt
people at the stake for being possessed by satin.


Richard Lipke


- Original Message -

Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components
ScienceDaily, March 9, 2012,
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120309104845.htm

Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components
Klaus Schmidt, March 10, 2012
http://spacefellowship.com/news/art27926/meteorites-reveal-another-way-to-m
ak
e-life-s-components.html

The paper is:

Burton, A. S., J. E. Elsila, M. P. Callahan, M. G. Martin, D. P.
Glavin, N. M. Johnson, and J. P. Dworkin. A propensity
for n-w-amino acids in thermally altered Antarctic
meteorites. Meteoritics & Planetary Science. Article
first published online: 8 March 2012


http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2012.01341.x/abstrac
t


best wishes,

Paul H.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components

2012-03-11 Thread Dick Lipke 
I apologize for for unconsciously grouping all religions into the same kind
of thinking and beliefs. There are probably as many different religions as
there are stars.

I stopped following any religious beliefs when I was about 8 or 9 years old 
when all my 
questions regarding all the tragedies happening around me or around the world  
always managed to end up with the answer " well God works in mysterious ways".
Even at that age I could sense a fear in their voices to avoid giving me a 
answer
that could offend their God.
This got way off the path of meteorites. This subject is over and done with.
Thanks everyone one for their opinions.   
 

Richard Lipke


- Original Message -
> Hi Richard,
> 
> As an Anthropologist I can assure you all religions have NOT
> Viewed God as male - some were female and some were non-gender
> Specific "spirit."
> 
> Garry, I agree with you - interesting topic, but I fear a good many
> On the list would see it as non-meteorite related in spite of the fact
> That transpermia (via meteorites) compels such a discussion about why
> People "of faith" would reject transpermia out of hand. They damned
> Near tortured Galileo to death for saying the world was not the center
> Of the universe (and he lived the remainder of his life under house
> arrest).
> 
> Religious persecution of scientific recognition of inconvenient
> facts has always been part of history and continues to this day - most
> religions holding the view, "the way we see things IS the way things
> are"
> while others overtly state that view AND feel the DUTY to kill anyone
> when sees things differently - hence 9/11.
> 
> Weird, weird, weird & weirder.
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> On 3/11/12 2:23 PM, "Dick Lipke"  wrote:
> 
> > Micheal,
> > That is an excellent point that has always baffled me and I could
> > never
> > understand the thinking
> >  of any religion in this world. All the different Gods worshiped
> >  world wide
> > have always been considered a male.
> > Which brings up the problem, "Which came first, the chicken or the
> > egg."
> > I think all these religions could be easier to swallow if their God
> > was a
> > female.
> > That would answer the question, she "God" was a female carrying the
> > first egg
> > that resulted
> >  in the birth of the universe.
> >
> >
> >
> > Richard Lipke
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> >> A major element in the problem with most of those calling
> >> Themselves Christians these days is that they
> >> See God as an anthropomorphic individual. This makes it
> >> Difficult to see the "glory" or creation in anything other
> >> Than comic book images.
> >>
> >> They actually envision God as a big (male) human who
> >> Literally, with His hands, shaped Adam out of mud.
> >> They cannot even see what a nearly perfect allegory that is
> >> For evolution arising from a primeval "soup."
> >>
> >> Evidence of transpermia is growing - but don't confuse
> >> Them with facts.
> >>
> >> Odd
> >> Michael
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/10/12 5:58 AM, "Dick Lipke"  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Years ago I got a lot of questionable looks concerning my sanity
> >>> when I
> >>> brought up
> >>> the idea of meteorites being "the Johny Appleseed of of life on
> >>> Earth" to
> >>> members of my astronomy club.
> >>> Needless to say it resulted in many,many comments of out rage.
> >>> They reminded me of how it must have felt to be among the first
> >>> to refute the idea that Earth was the center of the Universe.
> >>> Lucky for me my kind of thinking came in 20th century, back then
> >>> they still
> >>> burnt
> >>> people at the stake for being possessed by satin.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Richard Lipke
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message -
>  Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components
>  ScienceDaily, March 9, 2012,
>  http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120309104845.htm
> 
>  Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components
>  Klaus Schmidt, March 10, 2012
>  http://spacefellowship.com/news/art27926/meteorites-reveal-another-way-to-m
>  ak
>  e-life-s-components.html
> 
>  The paper is:
> 
>  Burton, A. S., J. E. Elsila, M. P. Callahan, M. G. Martin, D. P.
>  Glavin, N. M. Johnson, and J. P. Dworkin. A propensity
>  for n-w-amino acids in thermally altered Antarctic
>  meteorites. Meteoritics & Planetary Science. Article
>  first published online: 8 March 2012
> 
> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2012.01341.x/abstrac
> t
> 
>  best wishes,
> 
>  Paul H.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components

2012-03-11 Thread Count Deiro 
Dear List,

I, for one, have been down this road more than a few times in the past three 
quarters of a century. It started when someone poured water on my head, without 
asking, shortly after birth. 

Gary's request "to bear with" him, so that he can field "issues, questions and 
opinions" that will hopefully meld into "a singular answer" that may be 
"elightening and logical", I can only equate with answering a Sunday morning 
knock on the door to find nicely dressed atrangers with thick books under their 
arms who would just "love" to enlighten you.

Maybe on some other LIst? Please.

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536

  


-Original Message-
>From: "Gary K. Foote" 
>Sent: Mar 11, 2012 4:07 PM
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's 
>Components
>
>As a Christian and a lover of meteorites and all things scientific I think
>this is a perfect topic for a full blown treatise.  If you will all bear
>with me, offering your questions and opinions along the way, I would love
>to tackle this in a manner that will hopefully meld as many
>issues/questions as possible into a singular 'answer' that may be
>enlightening and logical.
>
>Interested?  I sure am!  Great topic Michael.
>
>Gary
>
>On Sun, March 11, 2012 5:23 pm, Dick Lipke wrote:
>> Micheal,
>> That is an excellent point that has always baffled me and I could never
>> understand the thinking
>>  of any religion in this world. All the different Gods worshiped world
>> wide have always been considered a male.
>> Which brings up the problem, "Which came first, the chicken or the egg."
>> I think all these religions could be easier to swallow if their God was a
>> female.
>> That would answer the question, she "God" was a female carrying the first
>> egg that resulted
>>  in the birth of the universe.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard Lipke
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>> A major element in the problem with most of those calling
>>> Themselves Christians these days is that they
>>> See God as an anthropomorphic individual. This makes it
>>> Difficult to see the "glory" or creation in anything other
>>> Than comic book images.
>>>
>>> They actually envision God as a big (male) human who
>>> Literally, with His hands, shaped Adam out of mud.
>>> They cannot even see what a nearly perfect allegory that is
>>> For evolution arising from a primeval "soup."
>>>
>>> Evidence of transpermia is growing - but don't confuse
>>> Them with facts.
>>>
>>> Odd
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/10/12 5:58 AM, "Dick Lipke"  wrote:
>>>
>>> > Years ago I got a lot of questionable looks concerning my sanity
>>> > when I
>>> > brought up
>>> > the idea of meteorites being "the Johny Appleseed of of life on
>>> > Earth" to
>>> > members of my astronomy club.
>>> > Needless to say it resulted in many,many comments of out rage.
>>> > They reminded me of how it must have felt to be among the first
>>> > to refute the idea that Earth was the center of the Universe.
>>> > Lucky for me my kind of thinking came in 20th century, back then
>>> > they still
>>> > burnt
>>> > people at the stake for being possessed by satin.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Richard Lipke
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > - Original Message -
>>> >> Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components
>>> >> ScienceDaily, March 9, 2012,
>>> >> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120309104845.htm
>>> >>
>>> >> Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components
>>> >> Klaus Schmidt, March 10, 2012
>>> >> http://spacefellowship.com/news/art27926/meteorites-reveal-another-way-to-mak
>>> >> e-life-s-components.html
>>> >>
>>> >> The paper is:
>>> >>
>>> >> Burton, A. S., J. E. Elsila, M. P. Callahan, M. G. Martin, D. P.
>>> >> Glavin, N. M. Johnson, and J. P. Dworkin. A propensity
>>> >> for n-w-amino acids in thermally altered Antarctic
>>> >> meteorites. Meteoritics & Planetary Science. Article
>>> >> first published online: 8 March 2012
>>> >> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2012.01341.x/abstract
>>> >>
>>> >> best wishes,
>>> >>
>>> >> Paul H.
>>> >> __
>>> >>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components

2012-03-11 Thread Michael Blood 
Apsosositivutely.
Michael


On 3/11/12 6:21 PM, "Richard Montgomery"  wrote:

> In short, (in my small and insignificant yet human perspective), it should
> be rational to allow both transpermia and a perspective of God that
> trancends all current 'views' of even Christianity, allowing for all three
> to co-existjust a thought
> 
> Richard Montgomery


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[meteorite-list] NEW Ungrouped Carbonaceous Chondrite - NWA 5958

2012-03-11 Thread Greg Hupé 

Dear List Members,

I would like to share some information about a special new meteorite:

NWA 5958 – A Uniquely Primitive Ungrouped Carbonaceous Chondrite Meteorite 
Type 3.00


NWA 5958 is a unique, highly unequilibrated, ungrouped carbonaceous 
chondrite possessing extreme isotopic signatures. Oxygen isotopes measured 
for bulk subsamples plot closer to values for the Sun than any other known 
meteorite! This remarkable specimen should hold important information about 
the nature and variety of materials in the earliest solar nebula. NWA 5958 
is a very fresh meteorite that was purchased in Morocco in September 2009. 
The Total Known Weight is just 286 grams in a single, fragmented stone. NWA 
5958 is a very special early solar system sample!


Continuing study includes careful microanalysis of separated chondrules and 
microscopic grains. As quoted by Dr. Irving, “The superior freshness of this 
new specimen makes it a very attractive candidate for such detailed work.”


Plane polarized light thin section image of NWA 5958 (width 14 mm) showing 
numerous small, diverse objects in a very dark matrix.

http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa5958/nwa5958_14mm.jpg

To read about some of the early findings NWA 5958 has revealed, and to see 
thin section images, please follow the two abstract links below.


Link to Abstract:
PETROLOGY AND EXTREME OXYGEN ISOTOPIC COMPOSITION OF TYPE 3.00 CARBONACEOUS 
CHONDRITE NORTHWEST AFRICA 5958: A UNIQUE, PRIMITIVE, O-RICH EARLY SOLAR 
SYSTEM SAMPLE.

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2011/pdf/2343.pdf

Link to Abstract:
THE TRACE ELEMENT CHEMISTRY OF NORTHWEST AFRICA 5958, A CURIOUS PRIMITIVE 
CARBONACEOUS CHONDRITE.

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2011/pdf/2325.pdf

Best Regards,
Greg


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