[meteorite-list] Fwd: Ad: North American meteorite - San Bernardino Wash (L5)
Helo Bob, All, >I agree, they definitely look different. 'Nuff said. You could assume "microclimates," but I wouldn't start putting forth a hypothesis like that without something substantial like argon data to tie the two stones together. The Meteoritical Bulletin is clear on pairing: http://meteoriticalsociety.org/?page_id=59 a) Level of scrutiny. Sequential names comprising a prefix and numeric suffix will be given to new meteorites without checking for possible pairings, although a single (collective) name may be given in cases where fragments fit together or similar-looking fragments are found within a few meters of each other. b) Pairing groups. Two or more newly discovered meteorites in dense collection areas may be considered paired with each other or with another formally named meteorite if there is overwhelming evidence, including geographic data, that is consistent with the meteorites being part of a single fall. The evidence must be evaluated by the Committee. All approved members of a pairing group will be named with a geographic prefix plus a number in the same way as are unpaired meteorites; special type-specimen requirements will apply to newly paired meteorites (section 7.1f). If two or more numbered meteorites with formal names are subsequently determined to be paired, their names should not be changed. Pairing groups may be referred to collectively by the lowest specimen number, the most widely studied mass number or the largest mass number (e.g., the EET 87711 pairing group). To emphasize the important part, "a single (collective) name may be given in cases where fragments fit together or similar-looking fragments are found within a few meters of each other." They look different and weren't found within meters; the necessary evidence clearly isn't there. Anything else is guesswork. Regards, Jason On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Robert Verish wrote: > > > Yes Jason, > I agree, they definitely look different. > But what has me puzzled is something that is not all that apparent in our > images. The exterior of our two stones. > Your stone has a very well-preserved exterior (even though your interior is a > uniformly-colored W3), whereas, > my exterior (which is not visible in the image) is gone, actually eroded. Yet > somehow, my stone's interior > is less weathered than your stone (my stone was classified as "W1"). > I wonder, if the interior of my stone were to weather to a "W3", just how > much it would look like your stone? > > > But, to directly answer your question, I would have to refer you to my latest > Meteorite-Times article: > http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2014/jan14.htm > for my description of how a cluster of obviously-paired fragments found at > SBW had such a variation in "looks", > that it prompted me to sample a number of them and to actually have two of > those fragments classified. > For your convenience, I'll show them here: > > Pinto Mountains -- (L6 S3 W1 Fa23.8+/-0.3% n=16; low-Ca pyroxene > Fs20.3Wo1.5 n=17)-- 1955 stone > San Bernardino Wash -- (L5 S2 W3 Fa24.6+/-0.6% (n=7) -- (UCLA type-specimen) > -- 2010 stone > San Bernardino Wash -- (L5 S1 W3 Fa24.0+/-0.2% (n=24) > -- 2012A fragment > San Bernardino Wash -- (L5 S2 W1 Fa23.8+/-0.4% (n=14) > -- 2012B fragment > > > This just might be a case of (very) micro-environments acting immediate to > where each fragment is found, that is causing all of these differences. > > I'm open to any and all other explanations, > Bob V. > > > > > > On Monday, January 20, 2014 2:48 PM, Jason Utas > wrote: > > Hello Bob, All, >>Just home from a hunt, haven't had the opportunity to reply until now. >>I don't have photos of the other stone/fragments, but I do have a few >>photos of SBW#1 on hand: >> >>http://meteoritegallery.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/DSCN7095.jpg >> >>http://meteoritegallery.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/DSCN7101.jpg >> >>http://meteoritegallery.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/comparison.jpg >> >>Is there any evidence for pairing beyond "equilibrated L?" As you can >>see, that slice looks a bit different. >>Regards, >>Jason >> >>www.fallsandfinds.com >> >> >> >>On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Robert Verish wrote: >>> For those collectors with an interest in North American meteorites, >>> I would like to bring your attention to an eBay offering (ending soon) of a >>> classified find from the California Mojave Desert: >>> San Bernardino Wash (L5) >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/221353605398 >>> >>> >>> This under-appreciated meteorite promises to become better-known now that >>> additional field-work and research results are starting to appear on the >>> Internet: >>> >>> https://www.google.com/#q=San+Bernardino+Wash+L5+meteorite+strewn-field >>> >>> Although the study of this area is too early to determine the possible TKW >>> of this meteorite, >>> it certainly will not rival Gold Basin (L4/6), but it promises to be the >>> n
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: San Bernardino Wash Contributed by: Bob Verish http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : part of meteorite collection !Sale!
Stephan WOW those are some great pieces your selling and great images. I could see those images in meteorites books. Thank for sharing that on here, and man I wish I had some money to get that Sikote Alin , beautiful thumb prints and crust, shes a beauty. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD- Meteorites for sale, thin sections and more!
Hi to all, I have some really nice meteorites for sale. 10% off listed prices! see some of the meteorites available here: www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com or on my facebook page listed below. Also available are several thin sections, all uncovered to allow full study. Thin sections are best prices around and currently for sale are: 2 Katol thin sections 1 Tatahouine thin section 2 NWA 1465 ANOMALOUS CV3! 1 NWA 6550 LL3.7 HUGE surface area takes up most of the slide... NWA thin section collection (3 included) for $75.00 Thin sections are $35 each plus postage, good luck finding a better price!!! Thanks for looking, hope everyone has a great day. Greg Catterton https://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wandering-Star-Meteorites/252302821456481 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites for sale
Hello list, I am selling a couple of meteorites: 1) Tieschitz 5.66 grams $1200 2) 6.99kg Campo $950 3) Alfianello 3.994g $150 Send me an email if interested. Thanks, Bill __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD ** Pristine 100g Park Forest - Taking offers for three more days
Hi all, I'll be accepting offers for three more days. Very fresh Park Forest meteorite recovered hours after the fall. I can show you the spot where it was picked up within 10 to 20 feet using google maps. Lots of character: Patches of extra thick fusion crust. 85% crusted overall. Area of fusion crust misted over by a spray of matrix material. Metal blebs melted into puddles on the surface, one of which is relatively large. Regmaglypts and more. I'm sure there are many features that I've missed or just don't recognize. I'm not the best photographer so I've tried to make up for the lack of high quality pics with quantity. The pictures don't do the specimen justice. The crust is a rich black color with the lighter matrix indicative of Park Forest's dual lithology. There aren't many, if any, PF specimens of this quality left in circulation and of course, satisfaction is unconditionally guaranteed. Check it out here: http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/BillKies5/media/100g%20Park%20Forest%20Meteorite/11_zpsf8493cc6.jpg.html http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/BillKies5/library/100g%20Park%20Forest%20Meteorite http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/BillKies5/library/100g%20PF%202 Thanks again, Bill __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images: January 22, 2014
MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES January 22, 2014 o Light-Toned Deposits along Coprates Chasma Slopes http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_034329_1670 This region of Mars contains kilometers-thick light-toned layered sedimentary deposits along many of its floors. o Shapes and Spots on a Polar Sand Dune http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_034441_2565 This observation shows numerous dark shapes and bright spots on a sand dune in the Northern polar regions of Mars. o Oxus Patera Collapse Feature http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_034656_2195 It's unknown how Oxus Patera formed, although some suggest it represents an ancient caldera formed by collapse and explosive volcanism. o Giant Gullies North of the Argyre Impact Basin http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_034829_1325 Even by Martian standards, the gullies in this observation are quite large. All of the HiRISE images are archived here: http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Herschel Telescope Detects Water on Dwarf Planet Ceres
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2014-020 Herschel Telescope Detects Water on Dwarf Planet Jet Propulsion Laboratory January 22, 2014 Scientists using the Herschel space observatory have made the first definitive detection of water vapor on the largest and roundest object in the asteroid belt, Ceres. Plumes of water vapor are thought to shoot up periodically from Ceres when portions of its icy surface warm slightly. Ceres is classified as a dwarf planet, a solar system body bigger than an asteroid and smaller than a planet. Herschel is a European Space Agency (ESA) mission with important NASA contributions. "This is the first time water vapor has been unequivocally detected on Ceres or any other object in the asteroid belt and provides proof that Ceres has an icy surface and an atmosphere," said Michael Kuppers of ESA in Spain, lead author of a paper in the journal Nature. The results come at the right time for NASA's Dawn mission, which is on its way to Ceres now after spending more than a year orbiting the large asteroid Vesta. Dawn is scheduled to arrive at Ceres in the spring of 2015, where it will take the closest look ever at its surface. "We've got a spacecraft on the way to Ceres, so we don't have to wait long before getting more context on this intriguing result, right from the source itself," said Carol Raymond, the deputy principal investigator for Dawn at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. "Dawn will map the geology and chemistry of the surface in high resolution, revealing the processes that drive the outgassing activity." For the last century, Ceres was known as the largest asteroid in our solar system. But in 2006, the International Astronomical Union, the governing organization responsible for naming planetary objects, reclassified Ceres as a dwarf planet because of its large size. It is roughly 590 miles (950 kilometers) in diameter. When it first was spotted in 1801, astronomers thought it was a planet orbiting between Mars and Jupiter. Later, other cosmic bodies with similar orbits were found, marking the discovery of our solar system's main belt of asteroids. Scientists believe Ceres contains rock in its interior with a thick mantle of ice that, if melted, would amount to more fresh water than is present on all of Earth. The materials making up Ceres likely date from the first few million years of our solar system's existence and accumulated before the planets formed. Until now, ice had been theorized to exist on Ceres but had not been detected conclusively. It took Herschel's far-infrared vision to see, finally, a clear spectral signature of the water vapor. But Herschel did not see water vapor every time it looked. While the telescope spied water vapor four different times, on one occasion there was no signature. Here is what scientists think is happening: when Ceres swings through the part of its orbit that is closer to the sun, a portion of its icy surface becomes warm enough to cause water vapor to escape in plumes at a rate of about 6 kilograms (13 pounds) per second. When Ceres is in the colder part of its orbit, no water escapes. The strength of the signal also varied over hours, weeks and months, because of the water vapor plumes rotating in and out of Herschel's views as the object spun on its axis. This enabled the scientists to localize the source of water to two darker spots on the surface of Ceres, previously seen by NASA's Hubble Space Telescope and ground-based telescopes. The dark spots might be more likely to outgas because dark material warms faster than light material. When the Dawn spacecraft arrives at Ceres, it will be able to investigate these features. The results are somewhat unexpected because comets, the icier cousins of asteroids, are known typically to sprout jets and plumes, while objects in the asteroid belt are not. "The lines are becoming more and more blurred between comets and asteroids," said Seungwon Lee of JPL, who helped with the water vapor models along with Paul von Allmen, also of JPL. "We knew before about main belt asteroids that show comet-like activity, but this is the first detection of water vapor in an asteroid-like object." The research is part of the Measurements of 11 Asteroids and Comets Using Herschel (MACH-11) program, which used Herschel to look at small bodies that have been or will be visited by spacecraft, including the targets of NASA's previous Deep Impact mission and upcoming Origins Spectral Interpretation Resource Identification Security Regolith Explorer (OSIRIS-Rex). Laurence O' Rourke of the European Space Agency is the principal investigator of the MACH-11 program. Herschel is a European Space Agency mission, with science instruments provided by consortia of European institutes and with important participation by NASA. While the observatory stopped making science observations in April 2013, after running out of liquid coolant, as expected, scientists continue to analyze
Re: [meteorite-list] Hoba shale or not shale?
Hi List, This brings up a RELATED question I've carried around with me for 15 years, having carried (rolled) a ~150lb mystery rock a mile to my truck way back then, suspecting something. To this day, despite my familiarity with most classes of meteorites and a worthy collection, I still don't rule it out, wondering if the few small chipped-off outside pieces might actually be shale and hence inconclusive for meteorite diagnostic, unlike the interior (it has never been cut.) Q: Would a TS of the shale reveal anything potential about a TS of the interior; would the shale itself have any residual diagnostics that rule "in" anything; and, does the Hoba shale look terrestrial? I have a TS of the exterior chips, and it seems weird and I've never had anyone definitely conclude yes or no...Blaine shot a piece last year with his magic gun last year (a small 3gr exterior chip) at the show, and it fired off a ton of elements, shrugs all around. It doesn't look like I'll make the show this year, but if anyone wants to see a picture of the whole thing, send me an email and I'll send photos. Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" To: "Anne Black" Cc: ; ; Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hoba shale or not shale? Hi Folks, I have seen shale or oxide fragments that had unoxidized metal inside them when cut. From the outside, the pieces resembled shale, but the interior was unoxidized iron or it had a "core" area with shiny metal in it. So, given such a specimen, is it still considered "shale" or "oxide" if there is unoxidized metal inside it? What litmus test is used to determine this? If the metal can be etched, is it considered "iron" and not "shale"? If so, a way to solve the mystery is to etch the shiny portion and see if it yields a widmanstatten pattern. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 1/21/14, Anne Black wrote: Very interesting Don, and thank you for posting this response from Zsolt. I will have to disagree with him on one thing, he wrote: "When I have bought this piece from Anne Black she didnt mentioned me that it is shale." That is not correct, it is clearly listed as "Shale" on my website, on the Old Collection page ( http://www.impactika.com/OldIRON.htm ), in fact it is still there, here is a copy of that listing: Hoba Namibia 1920 Ataxite C. Anger Slice-Shale 65.389 76 x 33 x 13 $995.00 I would guess that Zsolt, being very new at this, did not notice or did not know the difference. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Don Merchant To: Zsolt Kereszty ; Meteorite-list Cc: Don Merchant Sent: Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:25 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hoba shale or not shale? - Original Message - From: "Don Merchant" To: "Zsolt Kereszty" Cc: "Don Merchant" Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Hoba shale or not shale? Hi Zsolt. Reason I ask is that I know that trying to find some real actual Hoba cut from the meteorite is very hard to acquire and very very expensive. Even today the shale alone is getting difficult to acquire. I acquired a 3+ gram polished piece many years ago from Rob Elliott and the shale had lots of nice metal inside (still in my collection and can be seen here: http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/meteorite_collection.html * But it is still shale and no where near the value of an actual piece off the Hoba meteorite (metal). It appears that yours resembles shale but only Anne Black who you purchased from can truly confirm this. The outside appearance of your piece listed on eBay resembles mine from Rob Elliott. Again even the shale is hard to acquire...been quite a few years since I seen much available until your post. Here is a neat site to check out about the Hoba and price. http://www.fallsandfinds.com/page7.php * Hope this helps. * Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 - Original Message - From: Zsolt Kereszty To: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 2:13 PM Subject: Hoba shale or not shale? Dear Don! When I have bought this piece from Anne Black she didnt mentioned me that it is shale. Very interesting thing, beceause when I have cutted it it looks like me metal shine inside after polishing. Really was some spot, area of the surface in brown but was metal-gray area also. My bigger piece has content two polished sides and this also has got structuce and color. Do you think that there is a 25-30 mm thick shale? Not too wider for the shale? Best Regards! Zsolt from Hungar
Re: [meteorite-list] AD : part of meteorite collection !Sale!
Spectacular ride, seeing these! Thanks Stephan! Richard M - Original Message - From: "Stephan Kambach" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 4:39 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD : part of meteorite collection !Sale! Hallo, members of the list selling a part of my private meteorite collection. Have a look at it; it’s worth to see !! please make use of internet explorer (with firefox, having problems to see the pdf on the file hoster’s portal) and the link below, you will be forwarded to it. Best regards, Stephan Kambach https://app.box.com/s/rvumbudtz7ig8p5ba69f __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Hoba shale or not shale?
Shawn & listees; Hoba is an ataxite so etched metal would not show a Widmanstatten pattern. Etched Hoba metal shows an "oriented sheen" on a large etched slice; a small part slice prpbably wouldn't show it. Frank From: Shawn Alan To: 1 2 ; Meteorite Central Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hoba shale or not shale? Hello Mike G & Listers I would think if your able to make an etch, that part would be iron, but again, its in cased in shale. I guess it would be both and whoever is buying or selling would have to disclose that and the buyer would have to pay accordingly to what is the market price for shale/iron. But at the end of the day, having Hoba in your collection is a feat to accomplish if its shale or not. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html http://meteoritefalls.com/ Hi Folks, I have seen shale or oxide fragments that had unoxidized metal inside them when cut. From the outside, the pieces resembled shale, but the interior was unoxidized iron or it had a "core" area with shiny metal in it. So, given such a specimen, is it still considered "shale" or "oxide" if there is unoxidized metal inside it? What litmus test is used to determine this? If the metal can be etched, is it considered "iron" and not "shale"? If so, a way to solve the mystery is to etch the shiny portion and see if it yields a widmanstatten pattern. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com/ Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 1/21/14, Anne Black wrote: > Very interesting Don, and thank you for posting this response from > Zsolt. > > I will have to disagree with him on one thing, he wrote: "When I have > bought this piece from Anne Black she didnt mentioned me that it is > shale." That is not correct, it is clearly listed as "Shale" on my > website, on the Old Collection page ( > http://www.impactika.com/OldIRON.htm ), in fact it is still there, here > is a copy of that listing: > > Hoba Namibia 1920 Ataxite C. Anger Slice-Shale 65.389 76 x 33 x 13 > $995.00 > > I would guess that Zsolt, being very new at this, did not notice or did > not know the difference. > > > Anne M. Black > http://www.impactika.com/ > impact...@aol.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Don Merchant > To: Zsolt Kereszty ; Meteorite-list > > Cc: Don Merchant > Sent: Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:25 pm > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hoba shale or not shale? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD : part of meteorite collection !Sale!
More than "worth to see", Stephan ... without any doubt a high-end offer. Gorblimey! Regards Matthias - Original Message - From: "Stephan Kambach" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 1:39 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD : part of meteorite collection !Sale! Hallo, members of the list selling a part of my private meteorite collection. Have a look at it; it’s worth to see !! please make use of internet explorer (with firefox, having problems to see the pdf on the file hoster’s portal) and the link below, you will be forwarded to it. Best regards, Stephan Kambach https://app.box.com/s/rvumbudtz7ig8p5ba69f __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list --- Diese E-Mail ist frei von Viren und Malware, denn der avast! Antivirus Schutz ist aktiv. http://www.avast.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : part of meteorite collection !Sale!
Hallo, members of the list selling a part of my private meteorite collection. Have a look at it; it’s worth to see !! please make use of internet explorer (with firefox, having problems to see the pdf on the file hoster’s portal) and the link below, you will be forwarded to it. Best regards, Stephan Kambach https://app.box.com/s/rvumbudtz7ig8p5ba69f __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Microscope images
Dear list! I have made images with my microscope of the outer polished surface. Many area has got shiny metallic light and gray or gold color. Of course the part of the shale is brown. In my opinion that this pice has content mainly shale material with some not full oxidized metal. Maybe this part closed to the metal core of the main Hoba. Today I have tried upload the images fro my server and give you links to the images. And the other way can be a laser-spot analisis for the metallic spots. Thank you any expert information! Iam sorry for a weight dimension because in Europe we use the ISO standard and the decimal sign in ISO the "," and not ".". Of course you can see the 1 cm scale cub in the images and the small part is not able to over 3 kg:) because in this case the scale cub should be much bigger. And finally is true that Anne's list see that is a shale, but the in image looks metallic similar shine. Best Regards! Zsolt __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
