Re: [meteorite-list] interesting Steve Arnold-PLEASE DELETE

[Allen]

Hear! Here!
-Shaw
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Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 11:34 AM
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> Steve and Patient List Members,
>
>   Enough noise from Illnoise and the Stormbringer!
> Please post yourself into deep space.  Enjoy the ride.
> Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo
>
> And NO your givaways and disguised ads do not justify
> your postings.  Your interesting names are only due to
> your ignorance of other cultures, languages and the
> state in which your mind exists.
>
> BTW it is pronounced quite differently that your mind
> allows.  Steve bashing; ask yourself why!
>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Dis-interesting Steve Arnold

[Allen]

Steve Arnold is a differnt entity. The Steve of Chicago is not the Steve,
"the meteorite hunter of the mid-90's Arnold" from Oklahoma, unless...he
bears THE SAME LAST NAME as the said individual! If this is so, then we have
two Steve Arnolds in the same parity of likes with drastically differnt
intellects. What a coincidenceI stand amazed if this stands true.
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> Mike, Dirk, List:
> Our meteorite list home boy SSTTEEVYY "I need attention from anyone"
ARNOLD
> continues to spam the list with his drivel...More giveaways (remember he
said
> he was done with them before his infamous Mexico trip?) Interesting
meteorite
> names..WOW SSTTEEVVYYY, you are lightin' it up man!  Anything to try get a
> response (notice no one replies to your topics, STORMBRINGER...everyone
replies to
> tell you to GO AWAY!)...
>
> BIG SSTTEEVVEEYY"S next list post:
>
> Dear List:
> It is very hot here in Elgin...I just put ice cubes down my pants which
got
> me thinkin about lemunade(sic) and meteoritesso I went to the store to
get
> some lemuns (Don't they look like meteorites)..anyways, they were too
> expensive (my generous, great giveaways are killing me), so I bought some
Country
> Time lemunadehave you ever read the ingredients??  It is made with
> artificalial lemun flavor...but I have Lemun Pledge furniture wax and it
is made with
> REAL LEMUNS!!!  SO, I put 2 and 3 together and made 6 by putting a
little
> Pledge in my Country Timewent down real smooth, VERY LEMUNYY, but gave
me
> wicked gas...must be the waxSo list, do you think there is a
> conspiracy by the lemun people? I alreday did a GOOGLE search, so
PLEASE HELP
> ME!  ANY HELP WITH THIS IS APPRECIATED (I can hardly get myself
dressed in the
> morning)BIG STEVE, THE METEOIRTE DOCTOR OF PROCTOLOGY
> By from sunny and hot Elgin
>
>
> Terry
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Re: [meteorite-list] Delaware

[Allen Shaw]

Hello Walter, and list.
 The Delaware mass was the most 
unusual stone I have ever sliced up. On one end (where the inital cuts were 
made) was the heavily brecciated matrix with well defined veins and armored 
chondrules, but overall, a uniform interior. But, by the time the mass was 
reduced to the opposite end cut, the matrix displayed a totally 
different interior with two large (and completely different) clasts of 
alternate varieties of meteorite (carbonaceous?and.?) within the 
host.
  I retained this portion for my 
collection, and if you like will post some images of this anomaly tomorrow 
sometime.
---Shaw.
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Walter 
  Branch 
  To: Meteorite Mailing List 
  Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:20 
  PM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Delaware
  
  
  Hello Everyone,
   
  I am sitting here at my desk examining a slice of 
  Delaware, an L4 chondrite found in 1972 in Arkansas.  Those who might 
  have some of this meteorite, would you please examine your piece and tell me 
  if you see many metal-rimmed chondrules.  Thanks.
   
  -Walter
  --www.branchmeteorites.com

Re: [meteorite-list] New Article About Alabama Superbolide of Dec.5, 1999

[Allen Shaw]

   Greetings Ron 
& list,
   My brother and 
myself investigated this occurance. After speaking with numerous eyewitnesses we 
narrowed it down to ~3x12 mile swath whereby the onlookers heard the tell tale 
thunderous rumble followed by a swishing/sizzling sound. One husband and 
wife heard small raps, like pellets clanking on thier roof and in their 
guttering. Still we found nothing. They also told us that it rained a day or two 
after the bolide, which makes me believe that maybe it was a variety of 
carbonaceous, like Tagish Lake, that rained down that day in Dec. 1999, 
rendering the material into space-mud?
---Shaw   


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  From: 
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  Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 2:56 
PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Article 
  About Alabama Superbolide of Dec.5, 1999
  > > In the latest issue of Eos (American > 
  Geophysical Union), there is a detailed > article about about fireballs 
  (bolides)> seen all across Alabama on Dec. 5, 1999.  > It 
  is:> > King, D. T., and Petruny, L. W., 2003, > The 
  Trans-Alabama Superbolide of 5 > December 1999.Eos, vol.84, no. 
  27,> p. 253, 257 (July 1003)> I just obtained a copy of 
  the article. It is interesting because a DODsatellite also observed this 
  fireball. The DOD measurements of the flightpath differed from the ground 
  observations by about 90 degrees, just likewith Park Forest.  The 
  author concluded that the DOD measurements were wrong,but like Park 
  Forest, it is probably just an observing effect.The article also 
  mentioned that three adjacent ground fires occurred at aboutthe same time 
  as the fireball passage. No meteorites were found at the burn sites.The 
  author surmised the fireball was the cause of the fires due to an electrical 
  discharge was created by the fireball's ionized wake.  However, 
  checking the lightning data for the area showed no discarges had occurred. 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Something Fantastic!

[Allen Shaw]

test . 1...2 
...32...53...6...3...(next?)..etc...etc.
Note: new email 
address.  

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  Subject: [meteorite-list] Something 
  Fantastic!
  Dear list members, Master Meteorite Hunter par excellence 
  Habibi hasdone it again (and again!). Please check out our new, fully 
  orientedMartian Shergottite obviously paired with NWA480. Shes stunning!! 
  And awonderful breast shaped totally oriented 631.27 gram Slammer!!! This 
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Re: [meteorite-list] ppppparadoxxxxx

[Allen Shaw]

I would hypothesize that there is no great 
difference between dreaming @ nite and death, ..but between death 
and waking awarness, a great chasym can be beheld...
Just my and Juan Matas' opinion. 

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Michael Casper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: 
Thursday, February 07, 2002 1:31 AMSubject: [meteorite-list] 
paradox

I know that God exists because HE has talked to 
me when I have listened.  I have also had communication with the ones 
that call themselves "The Ancient Ones".   No I am not a 
basket case.at least not yet.   Clue in Life: Seek and you 
Shall Find,  Ask and it Shall be Given.  Find What? Given 
What?  Seeking and Asking can be dangerous! I would go to the list 
with this message but there are those that are afraid of a God.  Many 
people only seek GOD because they are afraid.of death.   For 
me there is not deathI am immortalmaybe not the I am nowbut 
nevertheless immortal.   By the same token I don't understand LIFE 
as we call it.  For me there isn't a separation. 
 If you wish to go to the list with a reply, I 
don't mind whatsoever. I challenge you to. Let's continue this thread.  
Sincerely,  Michael Casper, Ithaca, 
NY

Re: [meteorite-list] Rare Stony-Iron Meteorite Kept In Missouri Garage For Two Years

[Allen Shaw]

I recieved a call from someone in the 660 area code of Missouri about a week
ago who said they had a stony meteorite that was being classified in Albq.
weighing ~5 pounds.
---Shaw.
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>I heard 2.3 kg or so.
>- Original Message -
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>Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:43 PM
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>
>> Did they mention how big it is? I did not see it in the article.
>>
>> Mark M
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>> For Two Years
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>> > > MARYVILLE - One of the rarest types of meteorites, which
>> > > may date back 4.5 billion years, was kept in a Missouri garage
>> > > for about two years before a student brought it in to a
>> > > geology teacher at Northwest Missouri State.
>> >
>> > ...
>> >
>> > > "I said, 'Oh my gosh, a stony-iron meteorite,' " Rohs said.
>> > > Rohs took it to a University of Kansas professor, who confirmed
>> > > her conclusions.
>> >
>> > So the question is:  pallasite or mesosiderite?  --Rob
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rare Stony-Iron Meteorite Kept In Missouri Garage For Two Years

[Allen Shaw]

ooops they said stony-iron, not stony.
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Garage For Two Years


>I recieved a call from someone in the 660 area code of Missouri about a
week
>ago who said they had a stony meteorite that was being classified in Albq.
>weighing ~5 pounds.
>---Shaw.
>-Original Message-
>From: Matt Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Mark Miconi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Matson, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rare Stony-Iron Meteorite Kept In Missouri
>Garage For Two Years
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>
>>I heard 2.3 kg or so.
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>>To: "Matson, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:43 PM
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rare Stony-Iron Meteorite Kept In Missouri
>>Garage For Two Years
>>
>>
>>> Did they mention how big it is? I did not see it in the article.
>>>
>>> Mark M
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Matson, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 'Ron Baalke' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:55 PM
>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Rare Stony-Iron Meteorite Kept In Missouri
>>Garage
>>> For Two Years
>>>
>>>
>>> > > MARYVILLE - One of the rarest types of meteorites, which
>>> > > may date back 4.5 billion years, was kept in a Missouri garage
>>> > > for about two years before a student brought it in to a
>>> > > geology teacher at Northwest Missouri State.
>>> >
>>> > ...
>>> >
>>> > > "I said, 'Oh my gosh, a stony-iron meteorite,' " Rohs said.
>>> > > Rohs took it to a University of Kansas professor, who confirmed
>>> > > her conclusions.
>>> >
>>> > So the question is:  pallasite or mesosiderite?  --Rob
>>> >
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[meteorite-list] Kitchen Comets.....Meteor Craters?

[Allen Emer]

What a great idea the kitchen comet project is for schools,  but has 
anybody found a way to safely create a mini impact crater as a school 
demonstration?

Maybe a paint ball gun shot into some special material that would mimic the 
effect on a small scale?  hm

Anyone ever do this? Could be interesting for school meteor lectures.

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[meteorite-list] Help with Gold Basin locations

[Allen Emer]

My thirteen yr old son and I have just recently started studying and 
collecting meteorites.

A client has booked me to shoot a video in Las Vegas the week after my 
son's spring break from school and we are looking forward to taking the 
opportunity to fly out early for a week to visit meteor crater and do some 
meteorite hunting in Gold Basin and also on a dry lake bed.  My twin 
brother lives in Vegas and is a geophysicist so we have access to 4 wheel 
drive transport as well as metal detectors and even a proton procession 
magnometer if needed.

My question to the list is if some one can help us with some GPS lat/longs 
to find an  appropriate place to start our search for both Gold Basin and 
any dry lake bed in the Nev / Arizona area.  We will work our way down to 
Tucson by the end of the first week in April

Any help with directions and location of strewn fields would be greatly 
appreciated..

Thanks

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Re: [meteorite-list] Betting on Rob's New Moroccan Fall

[Allen Shaw]

ps, I guess Mr. Herbert chanced the same outlook..
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Betting on Rob's New Moroccan Fall


>A summary of the guesses so far, in the order posted:
>
>--
>LL6Rob Elliott
>Diogenite  Bernd Pauli (guess later rescinded)
>L6, brecciated Martin Horejsi
>LL6 (highly recrystallized)Herbert Raab *
>L5 Rhett Bourland
>LL4-6  Rob Matson
>L/LL6  Frank Cressy
>L5, brecciated Mike Tettenborn
>Polymict eucrite   Dave Schultz
>Iron IIAB Dave Radosevich (sandbagging ;-))
>Hematite nodule Jeannie (also sandbagging)
>EL6Tracy Latimer
>L4 Jason Phillips
>L6, brecciated, w/shock veins  Steve Schoner **
>--
>
>* Herbert needs to choose again (same as Rob Elliott)
>** Steve Schoner needs to choose again (Martin beat him to it)
>
>Bernd:  do you want to stick with diogenite just for fun, or do
>you have a back-up guess that hasn't been taken yet?
>
>Since our guesses are getting pretty precise, I'll assume my
>LL4-6 was sufficiently different from Rob's to be accepted.
>If Rob is in agreement, then I officially release my second
>choice of H4-6.
>
>Quite a few ordinary chondrite variations remain (as well an
>non-OC designations, if you're feeling cheeky), so have at
>it gang!
>
>Cheers,
>Rob M.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Betting on Rob's New Moroccan Fall

[Allen Shaw]

Well, since Rob's official classification assumptsion is LL6  ..AND
since it is HE that is awarding der prize. I must say that LL6 sounds
good to me as my official guess
Shaw, Allen.
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>A summary of the guesses so far, in the order posted:
>
>--
>LL6Rob Elliott
>Diogenite  Bernd Pauli (guess later rescinded)
>L6, brecciated Martin Horejsi
>LL6 (highly recrystallized)Herbert Raab *
>L5 Rhett Bourland
>LL4-6  Rob Matson
>L/LL6  Frank Cressy
>L5, brecciated Mike Tettenborn
>Polymict eucrite   Dave Schultz
>Iron IIAB Dave Radosevich (sandbagging ;-))
>Hematite nodule Jeannie (also sandbagging)
>EL6Tracy Latimer
>L4 Jason Phillips
>L6, brecciated, w/shock veins  Steve Schoner **
>--
>
>* Herbert needs to choose again (same as Rob Elliott)
>** Steve Schoner needs to choose again (Martin beat him to it)
>
>Bernd:  do you want to stick with diogenite just for fun, or do
>you have a back-up guess that hasn't been taken yet?
>
>Since our guesses are getting pretty precise, I'll assume my
>LL4-6 was sufficiently different from Rob's to be accepted.
>If Rob is in agreement, then I officially release my second
>choice of H4-6.
>
>Quite a few ordinary chondrite variations remain (as well an
>non-OC designations, if you're feeling cheeky), so have at
>it gang!
>
>Cheers,
>Rob M.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Bessy Bullshit

[Allen Shaw]

test
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>Farmer you are just as full of shit as you always are. Somebody hires you
to
>buy meteorites for them and you figure that it is your money that you are
>spending. You dont have $700,000 and you never have. You pay more than
>anybody else in morocco because you dont deal with the nomads directly and
>yes, they love you over there in morocco for that. Sure you bought two
kilos
>the R chondrite, 1.3 kilos of the CR2 and some eucrites when you went over
>last time in January. You hire some guide who goes around to the usual
spots
>that the moroccan resellers sell from and you get picked over material.
>Hell, your lunar was what, 200 grams less by the time you bought it because
>they had cut pieces to show everybody else trying to sell it.
>But you can go and have a beer and be happy and feel good thinking that you
>fucked me on the new fall now. Finally for once somebody gets a good deal
>from Mike Farmer. For the first time ever Mike Farmer is responsible for
>dropping the price of a meteorite. Welcome to the club farmer. You know how
>to play with the big boys now. You have finally learned that holding on to
>something for 5 years trying to get 10 times what something is worth is not
>the best way to go. You can make more money turning over stock fast. I am
>sure that when some "investors" buys a plane ticket for you again you will
>be able to afford to go to Morocco again and hang out with the moroccans. i
>guess that your travels of a couple years ago that you had to pay for
>yourself didnt work out quite like you had planned. And to people who want
>some of the new fall? My advise is to buy it from farmer. He is giving you
>one hell of a deal here. Not something to pass up. Unlike the rest of the
>overpriced stuff on his website. Hell, he even convinced the world that his
>CK4 that he bought was somehow better than the Libyan ones and should be
>worth double the price. But you always pay for stories with farmers
>meteorites (Except with the new fall).
>Ok farmer. You win tonight. You can celebrate now. The little boy has won
>his battle. Go home and tell your wife how good you are. Big brave
meteorite
>buyer. By golly you da man. Tonight you win. I am going for beer. I am
>leaving the sandbox now. You can have it all to yourself and throw all of
>the sand that you want for the rest of the night.
>DEAN
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Re: [meteorite-list] Photographic Lighting

[Allen Emer]

Dave,

Are you using film or digital for the photos's?

Proper color for tungsten film or quartz lit digital requires studio quartz 
lights that are rated at 3200degrees kelvin to match either tungsten film, 
or a digital white balance for 3200k light. Daylight is bluer @ 5600k ~ and 
will require Daylight film or a digital color balance for daylight. Flash 
strobes are near daylight  but don't shoot them from the cameraimage is 
too flat and uninteresting.
Quartz lights usually found at Home Depot stores are generally 3000k it 
will be just a tad warmer than 3200k light on 3200k film. Any good photo 
store will give a lead on finding studio quartz lamps.  Photo Flood socket 
type bulbs are made in 3200k alsohard to control but cheap.

Florescent lights can be mono spectral but some can have high color 
rendering indexes (CRI 90 or more) fp35's... best not to mess with 
florescent's.

Best bet is for positioning 3200k studio quartz lights 30 degrees or more 
to each side & or rear to show modeling (remaglympted   meteors) and then 
balance the camera or film to that color temperature.  Bouncing the lights 
into white cards can give a pleasant soft light look to help the modeling.

For Pallisites, backlight them thru the olivine, and using a bounced light 
into a white card facing the polished front to bring up the metal will work 
nicely. Play around with the position of the white card until it reflects 
in the metal surface...you know its nice when you see it at the right angle 
or elevation.

Metal flecked chondrites will respond nicely if you again use the bounced 
white card to catch the metal's reflection to the camera lens. Keep the 
card far enough away so that the stoney surface is not as bright as the 
reflected metal. This will make the metal stand out.keep playing around 
moving the card position till it sings out.

Rule of thumb is.don't Take a picture.Make a picture.

But above all ...have fun!

Al Emer


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>light, that will bring out the true colors of meteorites while photographing
>them. Thanks, Dave.
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Re: [meteorite-list] What could this be ?

[Allen Shaw]

Yes, I agree with Thomas..Hematite.
-Shaw.
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>Jim,
>It looks like either a hematite nodule or jasper.
>Thomas
>
>On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, Jim Strope wrote:
>
>> Any ideas on what this may be?
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/nwa482/DSCF0014.jpg
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/nwa482/DSCF0015.jpg
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>> http://www.geocities.com/nwa482/DSCF0017.jpg
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Re: [meteorite-list] Space debris available for collectors

[Allen Shaw]

I still have a little bit of the Cosmos 2374 Glonass Proton booster platform
casing insulation (launched from Kazakstan) that littered the ground in
central Kansas on 13 Oct. 2000 if anyone is interested. There was recorded
footage of its decent from Texas to Nebraska.
Shaw.
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>
>
>
>
> I was just thinking yesterday to set up a homepage to describe and show
>pictures of recovered space debris available to collectors and museums.
>I own such a sphere as those posted recently on the list. It is supposed to
be
>renants from a Russian rocket or sateletite from the Molnyia serie.
>I would like to open this discussion and at the same time to start
gathering
> pictures and papers regarding the subject.
>Wilton
>from Brazil
>
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>> > I have something that looks similar to that also. See here:
>> > http://www.meteoriteshop.com/aa-tank1.jpg
>> > Here is a close up of the flow lines
>> > http://www.meteoriteshop.com/aa-tank2.jpg
>> > Cheers
>> > DEAN
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Re: [meteorite-list] Closest meteorite

[Allen Shaw]

I would have to second that. .For a man who 
has out numbered Ninninger in finds (not recoveries), Skip truly holds the reins 
for meteorites hand picked from Earth to hand. And what a modest man he 
be.and then, enter the Portales Valley which detonates above him (he 
thought it was an airplane gone awry at first), and after a 40 years or so of 
seeking the space invaders (1960?), this happens. Fairly unusual if you ask 
me.
--Shaw.

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Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 
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Friday, May 03, 2002 4:19 AMSubject: [meteorite-list] Closest 
meteorite
 
I would like to nominate Skip Wilson, and Gale 
Newbury. Skip lives about 100 yards from the closest Portales Valley piece 
to his house, and Gale Newbury had one fall through his barn roof. It dont 
get much closer than that. 
Mike

Re: [meteorite-list] non-photo

[Allen Shaw]

You forgot kapoot...or is it kaputBernd?
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Subject: [meteorite-list] non-photo


>Yo Steve,
> Your attached JPG was damaged, no good, sucked, didn't cut it,
>was incomplete, broke down, made my netscape crash, didn't come
>through, etc.
> Howsabout one that works? 
> Michael
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Re: [meteorite-list] non-photo

[Allen Shaw]

Ahh, Kuputt. Thanks Anne.
Allen.

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non-photoIn a 
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You forgot kapoot...or is it kaputBernd? 
It is:   k a p u t t    
Anne Black IMCA #2356 www.IMPACTIKA.com e-mail: 
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Re: [meteorite-list] why worry?

[Allen Shaw]

Hear, here.
---Shaw.
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Subject: [meteorite-list] why worry?


>Dear List Members,
>Why do we even have to concern ourselves as to what is or isn't sold
>on ebay?  Let the buyer beware!  Part of any hobby is education.  Call
>it tuition if someone buys a MW.  Did someone teach you what to buy or
>not?  Or did you, as many, take a risk and buy something without not
>knowing 100%?  We don't have to be the Holdens of the world.  Let the
>buyer take the responsibility.  I step back now.
>Sincerely,   Dirk Ross..IMCA..Tokyo
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Re: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday Portales Valley!

[Allen Shaw]

Hello all,
   Anyone who maybe interested in a stone variety P.V. complete indv. of
200.50 grams contact me off list, as I have one to spare.
Allen.
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday Portales Valley!


Hi all,

Four years already.  As the list has noted in recent days, this is a
most beautiful and unusual meteorite.  I was just checking out my metal
rich interior slice.  I love it, but also realizing I must move a nice
crusted slice a bit higher up on my wish list.
Best wishes,
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Re: [meteorite-list] Whatsit

[Allen Shaw]

Title: Whatsit




I'll wager that its lighter than it looks and 
does NOT attract a magnet even slightlysome form of 
basalt? 
---Shaw. 

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Walter Branch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 
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Tuesday, July 30, 2002 4:04 AMSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] 
Whatsit
Hi Mike,
 
My guess is, Pluto as a young 
protoplanet.
 
A very small prorpplanet.
 
Okay, maybe Mercury.
 
Obviously, I have no idea.
 
-Walter
---Walter Branch, 
Ph.D.Branch Meteorites322 Stephenson Ave., Suite BSavannah, 
GA  31405 USAwww.branchmeteorites.com

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Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:45 
PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] 
Whatsit
Hi all,   As a dealer, I get all kinds 
of offers to buy the "meteorite" 
someonefound.   Just for yuks, whadda yall think 
THIS is?http://cards.webshots.com/cp-30698714-USjg-album/45268799GAjVck 

Re: [meteorite-list] AD-Eads Colorado

[Allen Shaw]

Anyone who maybe interested in a full 2.6 kilo slice of Rio Limay contact me
off list.
Cheers,
Allen.
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Subject: [meteorite-list] AD-Eads Colorado


>Dear List Members:
>Eads, CO for sale 247gr. full slice of mass $3.00/gr. Thanks.  Dirk
>Ross..Tokyo
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[meteorite-list] Eads, Colo.

[Allen Shaw]

Greetings List,
   
   I have available a complete uncut oriented 
individual of said meteorite weighing in @ ~ 7 3/4 pounds. Anyone interested can 
contact me off list.
  
All the best,
Allen.

[meteorite-list] test/delete

[Allen Shaw]

just 
testing..
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[Allen Shaw]

testingtesting
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[meteorite-list] St. Augustine Illinois.

[Allen Shaw]

Anyone who may be interested in a 
full of said meteorite contact me off list.
--Allen.
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[meteorite-list] November Leonids

[Allen Emer]

Luis,

Here's NASA's answer to your question:
I'm hoping for a good one too!

Al Emer


Subject: Leonid Meteor Storm Forecast
To: "NASA Science News"
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NASA Science News for October 9, 2002

Scientists at the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center have just released
new
predictions for the 2002 Leonid meteor storm. Their forecast covers
58
cities around the world and the International Space Station. Where's
the
best place to be when the storm arrives on Nov. 19th? Read the full
story
and find out.

FULL STORY at

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002/09oct_leonidsforecast.htm?list8692




At 07:18 AM 10/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
Do u guys
think novembers meteor storm will be good?
 
thanks LUIS
 

[meteorite-list] Source for Oxalic Acid

[Allen Emer]

Looks like my Campo is getting some rust...

Anyone know of a source for Oxalic Acid to clean it with?   Any ideas would 
be appreciated.

Thanks

Al Emer


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Re: [meteorite-list] ISS & shuttle?

[Allen Emer]

Yep Sure was.  The shuttle just undocked this morning and will return to 
earth Fri. Sometimes you can see a water dump sometime after they have 
separated.  It looks like a bright cloud of frozen water.

Keep looking.. you can also hear Ham Voice or Packet activity on 145.800 
mhz FM .

I talked to one of the astros on the spacestation and she described how 
strange it was to look down to see meteors but the auroas went past the 
station in space.

Al Emer
N2YAC



At 08:18 PM 10/16/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Hello list, I was out watching for the ISS and it appeared at the right 
place and time. But there was two! Is that the space shuttle?

Thanks, Tom
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteors "on" the Radio

[Allen Emer]

Saw 116 this morning here in NJ.
As I was watching the International Space Station make a 45 degree 
elevation pass, one nice orange  tailed meteor went about a thumbs width 
next to it . Neat sight.

My self and a bunch of Ham buddies have been working meteor scatter on 2 
meter vhf (144.200 mhz side band). Worked stations down to florida by 
bouncing 50watts of signal off of the meteor's ionized tail.  You can hear 
clicks and pings as they burn up. Stations can sound watery or perfectly 
clear. Only last a few seconds usually but enough to  pass grid squares or 
signal reports. Had one last yr lasted almost 30 seconds.

The ISS commander Valery Korzon was on voice on 145.800 mhz fm at 3:30 this 
morning talking to hams and describing looking down at the meteors. He said 
they were the best over Europe.

I was out for an hour &1/2 till dawn and the radiant was high over head and 
I got to see a bunch of quick timed groups streaking to my left and right 
near simultaneouslygives a real sensation of speed on the part of the 
observer...great fun.

Would have been nice to have a souvenir drop into the field next me though.

Al Emer
N2YAC



At 03:12 PM 11/18/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Are they "heard" on AM or FM?

Tuning in tonite from a front row seat,

Kevin Kichinka

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Re: [meteorite-list] Turkey sighting was rocket body reentry

[Allen Shaw]

Hear here, Mr. Matson.
Shaw
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Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 9:02 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Turkey sighting was rocket body reentry


> Hi Art and List,
> 
> > Has anyone been following the sightings over Turkey made by several
> > airliners on November 1st? It is getting coverage in the 'fringe'
> > press as multiple UFOs but after reading the eyewitness reports
> > and illustrations (there was even some video captured), it looks
> > to me to be a bolide. I have also heard reports that it was
> > possibly a Russian booster.
> 
> It was definitely the reentry of the Soyuz rocket that launched
> the latest crew of 3 to the ISS on October 30th.  Specifically, it
> was USSPACECOM #27553, 2002-050B.  It had a dry mass of 2350 kilos;
> basically a cylinder 6.7 meters long by 2.7 meters in diameter.
> The reentry was seen from Afyon, Yalova and Antalya, Turkey (I
> spent some of my honeymoon last year in Antalya!)
> 
> Cheers,
> Rob
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[meteorite-list] Leedy, OK.

[Allen Shaw]

Anyone who may be interested in a 134g full slice of the above 
mentioned witnessed fall, I have one available. If interested, email me off 
list.
-Allen. 

Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Show 2003 - Video

[Allen Emer]

John & Bob,

Now I wish I was going to be in Tucson for the show!...looks like you have 
a great project going on and I wish I had the chance to be involved. I 
light and shoot video for a living and love collecting meteorites. Was 
wondering what format you're going to shoot on  and edit.
 I shoot mostly with my broadcast Betacam camera package but have been 
doing some HDTV stuff lately. My son Sean (also a collector) has a Cannon 
xl1s DV 

Keep us informed on your progress, if there is any thing we can do to help, 
let us know.

Al & Sean Emer
Holmdel NJ


At 12:06 PM 12/29/2002 -0700, you wrote:

This will not be a "home video" project - we will be using professional 
grade equipment to help us produce a top quality product with an 
anticipated running time of 45 - 50 minutes.


John Gwilliam and Bob Holmes
 


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Re: [meteorite-list] How do I get out?

[Allen Shaw]

Title: Re: [meteorite-list] How do I get out?



HAAA. Thats good"Steve Arnolds' 
post's forever"...
Shaw    

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  me) and I'm still subscribed. Send an e-mail to the list administrator, no 
  response, still subscribed. Maybe I should wear some red slippers, click me 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Iron Meteorite Finds

[Allen Shaw]

Testing...uno.dos...tres
Sorry folks, just testing.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jeff Grossman 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 4:52 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Iron 
  Meteorite Finds
  There are a number of factors that cause the proportion of 
  irons to vary from place to place.  Four important ones are frequency of 
  pairing of finds, human cultural effects, differential weathering rates, and 
  recognizability.Places like NWA produce many, many separately numbered 
  meteorites that are undoubtedly paired.  The same thing happens in 
  Antarctica.  See Marilyn Lindstrom's analysis of this at:http://www-curator.jsc.nasa.gov/curator/antmet/ppr/ppr.htmBy 
  number, only 1% of Antarctic meteorite finds are irons.  When corrected 
  for extensive pairing among stony meteorites, this percentage rises to near 
  the 5% value observed among new meteorite falls.I have also read (I 
  forget who made this claim) that in areas like the Sahara, iron meteorites are 
  likely to have been picked up and used as tools by nonindustrial or 
  preindustrial cultures, whereas stony meteorites were ignored.  Maybe one 
  of you can come up with a reference.  This further lowers the percentage 
  of irons among collections of meteorite finds.  It did not, obviously, 
  affect the Antarctic meteorite population.The other two effects, 
  differential weathering and the ease with which finders have recognized irons 
  compared to stones, probably aren't that important in northwest Africa, Libya, 
  and Oman.  Weathering rates are low, and people know what to look 
  for.  Other places have been greatly affected by these factors, e.g., the 
  southeast US, where almost all meteorite finds are 
  irons.jeffAt 05:34 PM 1/16/2003, ROCKS ON FIRE wrote:
  Hello, List,does anyone know 
about how many new irons have been found recently compared to 
stony meteorites? It occurs to me that the market gets flooded with 
new chondrites every day but hardly any new iron, nut to mention stony 
irons. There are more than a thousand L's and H's just from NWA, I 
guess.It seems to me that apart from Campo and Nantan (yes, Sikhote and 
Brahin too) that stuff is getting rare. And it shows such nice etching 
pattern!-- Best regards from DOWN-UNDER,Norbert & 
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FIRE   IMCA #3420www.rocksonfire.com  
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  Survey  fax:   
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Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Debris Found In Joshua Tree May Be From Columbia

[Allen Shaw]

I agree with Robert. Same old song and 
dance.
---Shaw

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Matson, Robert 
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
  
  Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 6:18 
  PM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: Debris 
  Found In Joshua Tree May Be From Columbia
  Hi Ron,I still think they are way over-stating the 
  probabilities forthis piece of metal debris.  I saw it on the news 
  last night --it could honestly be ANYTHING.  There are no serial 
  numbers onit that I could see, so tracing it to Columbia at this 
  stageis nothing more than an uneducated guess."The path the 
  shuttle took on its failed journey home carried itwell north of the 
  Coachella Valley and the Joshua Tree area, butofficials say it is possible 
  that debris could have fallen in the southland.""Officials" might 
  say that; I wonder about *engineers*."A 4 inch by 4 inch piece of 
  metal is at the center of all the attention, and is now believed to be 
  part of the space shuttle Columbia.""Now believed" by whom?  
  The sheriff?  No one from NASA has yetexamined the piece.> 
  All this started when Bob Beggs spotted a shiny piece of> metal in his 
  driveway Saturday afternoon.  "I thought it> was a piece of trash 
  that had blown in," he says.  But> after closer inspection, Bob 
  realized it was much more than> a piece of trash from the desert. He 
  says it was hot to the> touch.I was in the Mojave desert that 
  day.  It was sunny and warm.What happens when you put a piece of 
  metal out in the sunin the desert?  Honestly, the "evidence" here is 
  hardly worthmentioning.  To summarize, we've got a small, 
  non-descriptmetal frame found in the hot desert sun, hundreds of 
  kilometersfrom Columbia's ground track.  This is going to turn out to 
  benothing.  And when it does, the same thing will happen 
  thatalways happens:  the story will quietly go away, and no onein 
  the media will point out how unlikely it was to be a pieceof Columbia in 
  the first place.  Same thing that happens 
  withmeteorwrongs.--Rob__Meteorite-list 
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[meteorite-list] rooftop hunting it's my way beating the odds

[perry allen]

if your like me you don't have the money to go to the south pole or the 
north pole or any pole for that matter,so try hunting on your cities 
rooftops.make sure they are high enough .parking lots with many floors,go to 
the top look for rocks clear them and then go back latter and look again,you 
  wont find any realy big rocks but you will find some very strange 
ones.happy hunting
 
 p.s.stay off of phx az roofs they are mine


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