Re: [meteorite-list] Photo of alleged Columbia impact crater

2010-09-08 Thread CMcdon0923
Or somebody's drug lab exploded...any white  powdery residue left in 
the crater  ??



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Hi List,

Here is a photo of the  alleged impact crater caused by the recent
"meteorite fall" in  Columbia.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/columbia-crater.jpg

Opinions?

To  me, it doesn't quite look right.

Best regards,

MikeG

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Re: [meteorite-list] OT - Gold Hoard Found in England

2009-09-25 Thread cmcdon0923
Here's the official website:


http://www.staffordshirehoard.org.uk/








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Re: [meteorite-list] Six-year old finds meteorwrong follup

2009-09-03 Thread cmcdon0923
A true class act and a great guy !!!





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Long story short, Rob Elliot gave the kid a real one.

http://www.thisisnorthdevon.co.uk/news/Josh-receives-heavenly-gift-meteorite-collector/article-1304237-detail/article.html


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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Tucson Show and Much More

2009-01-21 Thread cmcdon0923
First off, many thanks to everyone (the several dozen of you) who 
requested details about the contents of my collection.


Also, the pieces Anne lists below are just a sampling of the ones she 
requested I pull out in order to have them in time for Tucson.  I 
believe there are about 35 pieces currently on the way to her.  There 
are about another 135 still here, to be shipped after she returns from 
the showincluding a lot more "good ones".


Again, thank you to everyone who expressed an interest, and I wish 
those of you who may acquire any of these pieces, at least the same 
amount of enjoyment that they brought me over the years.



Sincerely,

Craig




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Hello List-members,

While you were all feeding the ducks, or the trolls, I have been 
working!


And I just acquired Craig McDonald's collection.
A lot of very nice stuff in there!  Some you haven't seen in a long 
time, like Buschhof, Canon City, Chateau Renard, Clark County, 
Flandreau, Gaylord, L'Aigle, Mayo Belwa, Ornans, Oxford, Sand Creek, 
Shergotty, Valkeala, Winona.
And Yes, of course, there is Claxton and Peekskill and Pasamonte and 
Weston!
And if the Postal Service does not fail me, I will even have them with 
me in Tucson.



Warning!, Geoff, our room in the InnSuites is going to be absolutely 
jammed paced with great stuff.
But I am sure we will manage to make room for some wine and nibbles. 
Right?


See you all there.

(And of course, if you are one of the unlucky ones who can't make it 
there, feel free to email me at:  impact...@aol.com.)



Anne M. Black
http://www.impactika.com/
impact...@aol.com
Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
http://www.imca.cc/

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!


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[meteorite-list] Re. Good By Bush - the nightmare is over (Howard Steffic)

2009-01-20 Thread cmcdon0923


Hey Howie.

While it's certainly your right to advertise your opinion, try not to 
be so ignorant when you do it.


It's "The Hague" (as in Netherlands)not "Haag" (as in Robert).





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I thought the day would never come.  May the Haag indict him and BIG 
DICK cheney

for war crimes.

Howard Steffic



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[meteorite-list] AD / SALE - Collection for Sale

2009-01-17 Thread cmcdon0923
It’s been a long time since I posted anything to this list, having 
stopped collecting meteorites back in May 2005, but I still receive the 
digests and read them with interest.


Since then, my collection has been packed away and stored in my den 
closet….a horrible waste of these important relics.  I have decided 
that it makes no sense to continue treating them like this, so I am 
going to offer the collection for sale, first, to the members of this 
list.


For now, the collection is being offered only intact.  I have no 
interest at this time of breaking it up and dealing with selling it off 
piece-by-piece.  Should there be no interest in the collection as a 
whole, I will have to decide if it’s worth my time and effort to break 
it up and sell off individually, or just pack it up again and put it 
back in storage.


The collection consists of approximately 190 different 
finds/falls/locations.  (I say “approximately” because I need to pull 
the records out of the box, but that’s the number I recall.)  Specimen 
sizes range from just a few milligrams of one or two rarer locations, 
to irons of 700+ grams.  There are only a small handful of NWAs, as 
they never really interested me.  The vast majority of the collection 
being true “named” specimens.  For what it’s worth, the total weight of 
the specimens is around 4800 grams (again, going 
from memory).


So in order to hopefully facilitate a quick sale, I am offering it at a 
significant discount to what was my total acquisition cost as of when I 
stopped actively collecting.  I haven't kept up with price trends since 
then, so if they've at least held somewhat steady, this represents a 
great deal, and if prices have risen at all since then, it should be a 
real bargain.


If anyone is interested please reply to me directly, off list, at the 
email address listed below.  I can provide a spreadsheet of what’s 
included, and we can take it from there.



Thanks,

Craig McDonald

cmcdon0...@aol.com



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[meteorite-list] Test - Please Ignore

2009-01-16 Thread cmcdon0923

Testimg text format.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Greensburg meteorite

2007-05-10 Thread cmcdon0923
The tornado that destroyed Greensburg was rated as an F5the most powerful 
class of tornado.  The MINIMUM wind speed of an F5 is 261 mphand up to 318 
mhp.
 
Much less powerful tornados pick up cars and trucks weighing a ton or more and 
easily toss them over 100 yards/meters.  So a "puny" little 1000 pound rock 
wouldn't present too much of a challenge. 
 
Some basic information:  http://www.tornadoproject.com/fscale/fscale.htm
 
 


> It could be tough to find. If a dense rock like that was in a field  
> and a
> tornado went directly over it, it probably would not have moved at  
> all.
> However, it was suspended in a building of comparably much lighter  
> material
> with a large surface area. Collectively, when the building was ripped
> apart, it could have been launched a considerable distance. Having  
> virtually
> no aerodynamic properties It is most likely within a 1/2 mile  
> radius of
> where it was originally housed. It may even be embedded in the soft  
> earth.

I agree with Charlie.  I don't think it would be moved much, if any.   
I think a wind greater than the terminal velocity of the object in  
free fall would be needed to lift it, and that would be several  
hundred miles per hour.  If it is truly missing, I would be willing  
to bet on  theft.

Mike Fowler
Chicago

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[meteorite-list] Re: NASA Awards Moon Rock......

2005-07-12 Thread CMcdon0923
<<...like the Declaration of Liberty>>

Did I sleep through a history lesson back in grade school? 

I assume you meant the "Declaration of Independence" ??
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[meteorite-list] Re: Collection for Sale - FOLLOWUP

2005-05-16 Thread CMcdon0923
Wow !   The response for information regarding the sale of my collection has 
been, to say the leastoverwhelming.

In order to save my typing finger, I have uploaded a copy to AOL's FTP area.  
The listing can be viewed and downloaded at:

http://members.aol.com/cmcdon0923/private/metsell.xls

Again, thanks to all who have responded to this point.


Sincerely,

Craig McDonald
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[meteorite-list] Collection for Sale

2005-05-16 Thread CMcdon0923
After much reflection on and review of my interests and goals, I have decided 
to sell my meteorite collection and concentrate on other interests that hold 
deeper meaning for me on a personal level.  

I will first offer the collection intact, to those on this list.  Should there 
be no interest in it as a whole, I will sell the pieces off individually via 
eBay over the next few months, beginning in June.

My asking price is significantly under my cost, as I would prefer to just sell 
it and be done with the process (like removing a band-aid).

A few details: There are 191 pieces, representing 172 distinct locations.  
Sizes range from specks to 700+ grams, and everything in between. There are 
three Lunar meteorites, and three SNCs.  

For what itâs worth, the total weight of the collection is approximately 
4,927 grams.  (There are also a few tektites and impactites acquired along the 
way, which are not included in the specimen count or total weight listed above.)

If anyone is interested in receiving a list (Excel format) of what the 
collection contains and my asking price, please email me DIRECTLY at:  [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]

Again, please note that at this time the collection is only available intact, 
and offers for individual pieces will not be considered.  


Sincerely,

Craig McDonald


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[meteorite-list] Re: Very OT: New pope selected

2005-04-20 Thread CMcdon0923
OKtry this tie-in

Does the Pope have access to the Vatican's meteorite collection?




Re: [meteorite-list] Does this rectify negative feedback?

2005-04-04 Thread CMcdon0923
Hey Steveyou are one class act!  Are you bucking for nominations for the 
"Stupid/Ugly American of the Year Award" ??  If so, you won my vote.  And since 
you are in Chicago, may I vote more than once?

Exactly what part of "Australia Only" didn't you comprehend?  Must be a result 
of that Chicago area public school education.

Why do I have a sneaking suspicion that the tone of responces by the list to 
your next round of insipid "Hey, look what I just bought..." posts will change 
slightly?

For what it's worth Norbertplease accept an apology for the remarks of our 
politically ignorant and reading comprehension challenged Chicago list member.


Craig

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Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote:

>I am really pissed off at you for this.I legally paid for those 2 items.It
>was on ebay and that is legal purchaing.It does not matter where in this
>god forsaken world it is.And I REALLY DO NOT CARE FOR YOUR STUPID EXPORT
>LAW.We don't have that over in the greatest country in the world.I paid
>for those pieces legally and I should get them.I am going to file a
>grievance to ebay on your phony selling techniques.You do not see any
>other countrys with this stupid export laws.HOW STUPID CAN A COUNTRY
>BE???.Meteorites run thru the usa like water in a siv.I am sorry to do
>this norbert.But what you are doing is totally ILLEGAL by any means.You
>have lost me as a customer.I have never been treated so shabbaly as what
>you have done to me.And I am going to alert the meteorite community as to
>what you have done to me.I THOUGHT WE COULD WHEEL AND DEAL ON EBAY LIKE
>GENTLEMAN?Oh well,I guess not.I will get those piecess!!!
>
>
>  steve arnold, usa,where meteorites flow
>freely!!

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Re: [meteorite-list] Michael Casper is a thief

2005-03-31 Thread CMcdon0923
Mikey C. !

Now there's a name that we hadn't (thankfully) heard in a long time.  

I guess the slabbed silver dollar market must not be doing too well.
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[meteorite-list] Re: What's in a name?

2005-02-21 Thread CMcdon0923
For those searching in eastern Pennsylvania, how about:

Paradise
Bird In Hand
Blue Ball
and last but not leastIntercourse.

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[meteorite-list] Re: eBay warning about seller

2005-02-17 Thread CMcdon0923
<<>>


Wouldn't a "fake meteor-wrong" be a "meteor-right"?  You knowtwo negatives 
make a positive, and all that.
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[meteorite-list] Re: As a matter of fact, I done!

2004-12-27 Thread CMcdon0923
Well Tom, at least you have your priorities right !!!  Meteorites (as well as 
stamps, coins, or any other collectible) are just THINGS...possessions, period. 
 They don't matter worth squat in the grand scheme of things.  Ownership of a 
THING can't even begin to compare to the job of raising your children.  So 
don't be depressed because you can't own a THINGbe happy because you know 
in your heart that you're doing the right thing !

Craig

+

My dad responsibilities have to come way before my collection.  So I need to 
focus my thoughts on my most important task (for now) my kid.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Great Meteor Shower

2004-12-14 Thread CMcdon0923
Beautiful clear night here in the Dallas area.but a bit on the cold side 
(30F).  I only spent a few minutes out watching around midnight, but saw 
several nice meteors in that short period.

Craig
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite price list????

2004-11-08 Thread CMcdon0923
Deja vu all over again 

Didn't we just have a thread on this last weekwhich turned kind of ugly 
towards the end?
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Re: [meteorite-list] Largest single Pallasite?

2004-10-25 Thread CMcdon0923
Not sure if it's reliable or not, but a quick web search seems to come up with lots of 
hits for the Greensburg, KS pallasite as the top piece, at 1000 pounds.  

Here's a link to the "Big Well" site where it's housed, but the link on their page to 
the actual meteorite appears to be broken.

http://www.bigwell.org/

But here's another link that does contain an image

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/KSGREwell.html


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Re: [meteorite-list] ROCKS FROM SPACE PICTURE OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 15, 2004

2004-10-15 Thread CMcdon0923
Now that's one NEAT looking meteorite !
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Re: [meteorite-list] Which one came closest?

2004-10-14 Thread CMcdon0923
<>


Probably "Allen, Texas" (H4) seeing that I live in the town right next to Allen.  
Another candidate could be "McKinney, Texas" (L4), which is about 10 miles away.  I 
have specimens of each.

But because McKinney was found prior to my town actually being incorporated, and "The 
Book" states that it was found "eight miles west of McKinney", there's a slight 
possibility that it may have been found in what is now technically, Frisco, Texas.


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[meteorite-list] OK All You Geologist Types Out There.....

2004-09-24 Thread CMcdon0923
I absolutely ain't a meteorite, so what is it?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2272486362&rd=1
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Re: [meteorite-list] Where Were You When It Happened 35 Years Ago.?

2004-07-20 Thread CMcdon0923
I was ten years old, soon to be eleven, and I remember sitting in the living room with 
my parents, in front of a black and white television watchting a blurry image.


>The questions are: "Where were you when 
>Neil Armstrong first stepped out on the 
>Moon 35 years ago?" "Where did you watch 
>it and with whom?"
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay asks for your help!

2004-07-09 Thread CMcdon0923
Well, I think it's a good start, although I don't know how far it should go.  Some 
things to consider:

Could IMCA be held responsible in any way for someone who purchases something with 
IMCA's "blessing" which turns out to be misrepresented?  What if IMCA renders an 
opinion that seller X is offering something not authentic, which turns out to be, or 
even if that the seller just challenges IMCA?

What about sellers who for whatever reason choose not to belong to IMCA?  Could 
non-membership lead to people avoiding their listings, and subject IMCA to some type 
of "restraint of trade" charges?

Unfortunately, at least here in the US, we live in a litigious society.

I don't have answers...these are just questions after reading this initial email.  Do 
I think we should do SOMETHING to assist Ebay?yes.  Do I know what we should 
do?no.


Craig




In a message dated 7/9/2004 5:20:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ken newton <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> writes:

>All,
>I.M.C.A. received the following email from Ebay today. I checked the 
>headers and it appears to be a genuine
>request. Since this affects the entire meteorite community, we would 
>also like to include your valid suggestion
>whether you are in I.M.C.A. or not. Please give this some serious thought.
>Thank you for your attention to this matter.
>Ken Newton
>International Meteorite Collectors Association
>http://www.imca.cc
>http://meteoritecollectors.org 
>
>"Hello,
>
>I work in the eBay Trust and Safety department.  Part of my 
>responsibility is to ensure the security of the marketplace and set 
>potential bidder's minds at ease when it comes to bidding on items.  I 
>am attempting to do this in the meteorites category by contacting 
>organizations that are experts in that field.  That is why I am 
>contacting you today.
>
> I was wondering if you would be willing to offer some suggestions for 
>ways in which we can improve the meteorite marketplace on eBay.  Any 
>information you care to provide would be appreciated.
>
> If you would prefer a phone call, I would be willing to call you at 
>your convenience.  I appreciate your time and efforts.
>
> Respectfully, 
>
>XX 
>
>eBay Trust & Safety"
>
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[meteorite-list] Re: North Texas Fireball.....video

2004-07-08 Thread CMcdon0923
Try this URL for the police video.

http://www.nbc5i.com/weather/3506058/detail.html

On the left side of the page, click the FEEDROOM map/image, and it should bring up a 
video of the actual newscast.  It's a bit choppynot sure why...the one I saw on 
the news was perfectly smoothit may be due to digitizing it for web use.


Craig
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[meteorite-list] Re: North Texas Fireball.....images

2004-07-08 Thread CMcdon0923
Here is a link to still frames from the police video showing last night's North Texas 
fireball.  

I'm trying to get the link to the actual video, and will post it if I get it to work.

http://www.nbc5i.com/slideshows/index.html


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[meteorite-list] North Texas Fireball.....

2004-07-08 Thread CMcdon0923
There was a very large fireball over North Texas last night around 21:30 CDT.

I don't have any more info, but it was caught on video by the dashboard camera of a 
police car.  Looks like if flared at least twice and there may have been some 
fragmentation.

Unfortunately I missed it because I was bidding on some eBay items (ug).

Anyone have any more info



Craig
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RE: [meteorite-list] Extraterrestrial Impact Recreated in theLaboratory

2004-06-30 Thread CMcdon0923
The video that I referred to was of high speed projectile impact testing performed by 
NASA, so I think they could be considered somewhat rigorous.  

I'm not saying the tests referred to in Ron's original posting weren't important, but 
maybe the article just didn't spell out the reasons that it could be considered 
special.


Craig


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Re: [meteorite-list] Extraterrestrial Impact Recreated in the Laboratory

2004-06-29 Thread CMcdon0923
??

I've seen video of this type of test being performeded numerous times on various TV 
programs on places like The Discovery Channel, etc.

So unless I missed something here, what was so special about this test?


Craig





In a message dated 6/29/2004 12:50:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Ron Baalke <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> writes:

>
>
>http://physicsweb.org/article/news/8/6/12
>
>Extraterrestrial impact created in the lab
>Belle Dume
>Physics Web
>22 June 2004
>
>Scientists in the Netherlands have successfully recreated a 
>small-scale meteoritic impact in the laboratory for the first 
>time. The novel yet simple experiment, devised by Detlef Lohse 
>and colleagues at the University of Twente, involves dropping a 
>small steel ball onto the surface of a sand bed. The results 
>could shed more light on the processes occurring during 
>large-scale impacts on Earth and other planets in the solar 
>system.
>
>Lohse and colleagues first prepared a sand bed, around 25 cm 
>thick, from fine sand grains measuring on average 50 microns 
>across. The sand was "decompactified" by blowing air through it 
>and then allowed to settle in an extremely loose-packed structure, 
>so that it essentially behaved like a fluid. Next, the scientists 
>dropped a steel ball, with a diameter of 2.5 cm, onto the sand 
>from various heights and angles while taking images with a 
>high-speed digital camera.
>
>The Twente team observed a series of well-defined steps: on impact, 
>sand is blown away in all directions to form a crown-shaped splash. 
>The ball then penetrates the sand and creates a void, which then 
>collapses under the influence of the hydrostatic-like pressure of 
>the sand. This pressure subsequently ejects sand grains into the 
>air to form jets (see figure). Using numerical simulations the 
>scientists developed a theory to explain how the void collapsed.
>
>"We have shown that the impact of an object on loosely packed 
>granular material can be well described by a simple, fluid 
>dynamical continuum model. So in our system sand behaves like 
>water!" team member Devaraj van der Meer told PhysicsWeb. "This 
>is very surprising since it has often been argued that, in general, 
>no continuum description of granular materials is possible," he 
>added.
>
>"There is a striking similarity with the large-scale impact of 
>meteors and other celestial objects on the surface of the Earth -- 
>for example the Chixulub impact crater in Yucatan, Mexico, thought 
>to be responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs -- and our 
>experiment," said van der Meer. "Our scaled-down granular 
>experiments under laboratory conditions possibly capture the 
>essential features of these crucial events in the history of our 
>planet."
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite eBay Bidding (i.e., sniping) Comment

2004-06-11 Thread CMcdon0923
I too have lost out many times to snipers, but I look at it this way

If I am interested in an item, and I personally determine that I am willing to pay a 
maximum of $X for it, then I will submit a bid in the amount of $X.

If someone else bids more than $X, either a day before the auction ends, or two 
seconds before it endswhat's the difference?  They were willing to spend more than 
I personally decided that the item was worth.  

That doesn't mean I won't be disappointed in losing the item, but if it goes for more 
than I personally felt it was worth to me, that was my decision.

Other opinions?
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Re: [meteorite-list] IS BOB EVANS STILL ALIVE???

2004-05-27 Thread CMcdon0923
Hopefully he hasn't "bought the farm"..



Hi Ryan and all,

Could he be down on the farm? ;-)

--AL



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Re: [meteorite-list] Montrose, CO  meteor

2004-05-25 Thread CMcdon0923
<< while the more rare ones are comprised of solid steel. >>


Hm.What's the classification for a "steel" meteorite.

Hopefully this was poetic license by the author, and not a quote from either of our 
list members.



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Re: [meteorite-list] the real name of the sherbinator

2004-05-12 Thread CMcdon0923
In his defense, I think he does state in the listings that he doesn't guarantee that 
they're meteorites.

Like eBay says.caveat emptor.
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Re: [meteorite-list] This is going to  p_ ss you all off!

2004-04-07 Thread CMcdon0923
<<>>

One of my favorite retorts to manager-types when they come up with some brilliant new 
idea (which those of us that actually do the work know is doomed to fail) is: 
"Theories always work on paper."

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Re: [meteorite-list] Why haven't we heard about this?

2004-04-04 Thread CMcdon0923


I did hear about itas a matter of fact I saw it going overhead (I'm about 35 miles from Fort Worth)it passed over my house, and the entire area lit up like it was noon.
 
But, there was a really nice 5 gram rusty piece of Nantan ending on eBay, and I didn't want to miss out on sniping it at the last minute.
 
 
Craig


Re: [meteorite-list] 'Rites & Wrong Cartoon

2004-03-29 Thread CMcdon0923
Markjust let it/them go.

You will never change their minds...this is just how the bleeding heart 
political-correctness crowd is.  

As they would have us all believe:  There are no bad people in the world (except for 
conservative Republicans)just people who make "bad choices".

Now let's all hug and think nice thoughts..



Craig

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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireballs Light Up The Sky Over Canada

2004-03-25 Thread CMcdon0923



 
You - no name.Can't swim?Roman Jirasekwww.meteoritelabels.com
Aa reply from our neighbor to the north.
 
Yes Roman, I can swim. Thank you for asking.
 
 I have some of my best vacation memories from camping and boating on Lower Beverly Lake, in Delta, Ontario.   An absolutely beautiful area.  Anywhere near Milton (don't have an atlas handy at the moment)?
 
 
 
Sincerely,
 
Craig


Re: [meteorite-list] Free Giant Shrimp!

2004-03-25 Thread CMcdon0923
Mmm...shrimp.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireballs Light Up The Sky Over Canada

2004-03-25 Thread CMcdon0923
Oh goodyamother possible opportunity for the Canadian government to let another 
meteorite disolve into oblivion, ala Tagish Lake.

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Re: [meteorite-list] You better jump on this one!

2004-03-17 Thread CMcdon0923
That's why when the little bottle says to take 'x' number of pills at a given time and 
interval, it's important that you follow those instructions, or this is what can 
happen.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: someting else! Asteroids

2004-03-05 Thread CMcdon0923



Congratulations Rob.
 
 
 
And lest we forget, Ron also has one named after him"(6524) Baalke".


Re: [meteorite-list] Former Astronaut Glenn Criticizes Bush Space Plan

2004-03-05 Thread CMcdon0923
<< You are wrong, you used the word Chimp, You made it olitical, and made yourself the 
chimp!  >>

Randy's substitution of the word "chimp" in reference to the President of The United 
States is THE ONLY reason I even bothered to post my reply to his email.  

If you can't take it.don't dish it out.

If it would have just been a link to the article without his attempt to include the 
typical angry liberal agenda into the message, I wouldn't have gone past just reading 
Sen. Glenn's comments.

Actually, the only reason I even read the article was because that based on the 
doctored title in the email, I though NASA was planning to start sending chimps into 
space again in preparation for longer duration missions, and I wanted to see what 
Senator Glenn's objections were.



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Re: [meteorite-list] Former Astronaut Glenn Criticizes Bush Space Plan

2004-03-04 Thread CMcdon0923
Typical partisan crap.no matter what the President would have proposed, the angry 
liberals would have found something to complain about.yada...yada...yada.yawn.

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Re: [meteorite-list] True collector or sick?

2004-02-17 Thread CMcdon0923
<>

Can I get a slice with some dried blood on it or bone fragments embedded in it?  

Paint residue is special, so why not blood and bone?

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[meteorite-list] Fwd: good method

2004-02-12 Thread CMcdon0923
What a tool !!
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for banned you from the list, you have put a private
message in pubblic.

I hope...

I feel honored.I've received a slam from Matteo.  

If I translate correctly, he's calling ME an idiot for
posting my "I hope he
wins it" comment. (And who's the one that bid on it?)

Now all I need is a mention by Proud Tom, and my life
will be complete!




yes, sure...I am not a idiot type some people in the
list...one is the person have write here under

<< It's funny to see WHO has placed a bid on that :-)
>>

Let's hope he wins it !!


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M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato
Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: 
http://www.mcomemeteorite.info
International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140
MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/

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[meteorite-list] (no subject)

2004-02-12 Thread CMcdon0923
I feel honored.I've received a slam from Matteo.  

If I translate correctly, he's calling ME an idiot for posting my "I hope he wins it" 
comment. (And who's the one that bid on it?)

Now all I need is a mention by Proud Tom, and my life will be complete!




yes, sure...I am not a idiot type some people in the
list...one is the person have write here under

<< It's funny to see WHO has placed a bid on that :-)
>>

Let's hope he wins it !!

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RE: [meteorite-list] Doubtful DaG476 on ebay..

2004-02-11 Thread CMcdon0923
<< It's funny to see WHO has placed a bid on that :-) >>

Let's hope he wins it !!

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Re: [meteorite-list] moon travel & lunar meteorites?

2004-01-16 Thread CMcdon0923
<<. get NASA to put a box under the lunar return vehicle that the astronauts can 
fill with moon rocks that will burn up during reentry will and drop new lunar 
meteorites over the US?>>

Might not be a good idea

What if one hits an angry liberal on the head?  They'll claim that NASA and George 
Bush purposely contrived this sample return program to systematically eliminate angry 
liberals. They'll sue NASA and George Bush for doing it, but of course they'll keep 
the stone and sell it for a million dollars.  And if the stones fall in predominantly 
Republican areas, they'll claim that the program was purposely drawn up to benefit 
only rich, evil Republicans, at the expense of angry liberals.


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[meteorite-list] Catalog of Meterites Question.....

2004-01-15 Thread CMcdon0923


Can someone with a new copy of "the book" post the details under the entry for "Glatton"
 
I only have the 1985 version, and since it fell in 1991, obviously it's not included.
 
I just aquired a small fragment from Rob Elliott, and am curious about what, besides what's on his site, is known about it.
 
Craig


Re: [meteorite-list] Bush's Space Initiative

2004-01-15 Thread CMcdon0923



"MommyMommywhat are those?"
"Don't stare sweetiethey're just angry liberals.  They don't know any better."
*
EVERYBODY read Howard's links.  Do it now.  Don't just read the Mars story, read them all.
I can't wait until Nov. to vote (again) against this idiot Chimp some call the President of the US
Randy
>From: Howard Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: meteorite-list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bush's Space Initiative 
>Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 22:47:05 + (GMT) 
> 
> 
>Haliburton and Mars? 
> 
>http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=8473 
> 
>Howard Wu 
> 


Re: [meteorite-list] Bush's Space Initiative

2004-01-14 Thread CMcdon0923



 

As there are quite a few space savvy folks on this listjust asking a question pertaining to Bush's speech.
 
He said the moon was the logical place to initiate space exploration missions.  Yet the moon has harsh environmental challenges.and it seems those challenges are less on Mars.  Only the distance is a problem.  
 
It would seem to me that a space station orbiting Earth would be the better place to initiate trips to Mars and beyond?
I didn't personally hear the speach, but I assume some of the reasons to use the Moon would be that you can't really build a launch pad type outpost floating in space.  The surface of the moon would be better, IMHO.
 
You need places to store parts, assemble the vehicle on firm "ground", house inhabitants, etc.  Expanding the ISS is probably vastly more expensive than building an outpost on the Moon (once you get there).
 
Also, I believe they're hoping to manufacture the fuel on the Moon from the hydrogen in the trapped ice.  I believe one of the most expensive parts of any lauch is the amount of weight (i.e., fuel) needed just to get that same soon-to-be-consumed fuel off the ground.  Being able to send an empty vehicle to the Moon, fuel it there and then launch it from the reduced gravity of the Moon would be a tremendous savings of money.
 
Personally I've felt we needed to make an agressive, long term commitment to something (!!) for a long time.  No offense, but I feel NASA has been prostituted over the last decade or two and relegated to pandering to the public's cause du jour. I mean come ona multi-billion dollar vehicle and all the associated expenses to study the rain forrests and the "ozone hole".  NASA should be for space exploration, period.  We should be looking UP, not DOWN.
 
Is it gonna be expensiveyep...progress always is.  
 
Is it gonna be dangerousyep...exploration always is.  
 
Are we going to lose astronauts due to accidentsyes, (unfortunately) we will.  
 
 
Craig
 
 
 
 


Re: [meteorite-list] OT: MOON TRAVEL?

2004-01-14 Thread CMcdon0923
Definitely NOT the shuttleit's not capable, at least in its current configuration, 
of extended space flight.

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[meteorite-list] What NASA doesn't want us to see.....

2004-01-07 Thread CMcdon0923
Hm.

http://www.xouout.com/mars.htm

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Re: [meteorite-list] Cutting Meteorites

2003-12-23 Thread CMcdon0923



 

want to cut a slice of Lamont that is in my collection.
I dont have any equiptment or knowlege to cut it efficiently and professionally.
I have to cut these slices within a week.
So I cant really wait for a saw to be ordered and delivered.
This might help.
 
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2366952124&category=50417


Re: [meteorite-list] Georgia Man Finds Meteorite While Picking Butter Beans

2003-12-18 Thread CMcdon0923



 
told him the space debris can bring anywhere from $5 to $1 million a gram.
And we wonder why the public acts the way they do when the are fortunate enough to acutally find a meteorite.  So when the owner of this stone  eventually does go to sell it, what estimate do YOU think he's going be believe his meteorite is worth?
 
Hey Jerry.since you opened your mouthwhy not put your money where your mouth is?  Get it for a bargainoffer him only $1000 a gram.


[meteorite-list] They're baaaaack.....

2003-12-16 Thread CMcdon0923
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2211392065&category=3239

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[meteorite-list] Re: OT !!!!.....Stereotypes (was Sylacauga Meteorite)

2003-12-02 Thread CMcdon0923


Re: [meteorite-list] Re: A Sign From Above (Sylacauga Meteorite)

2003-12-01 Thread CMcdon0923
You do all understand that this is a parody, and not a legitimate newspaper article?

Lighten up folks..


Re: [meteorite-list] Ownership Claimed for Asteroid 433 Eros

2003-11-08 Thread CMcdon0923
Why or how

Simple:  The world is full of idiots.

This is just his 15 minutes of fame.

I believe he has about 9 minutes left.


Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar eclipse

2003-11-08 Thread CMcdon0923
Rainy and cold (OK...actually just 50F) here in Dallas

We were supposed to have a public star party tonight, but rain has a way of changing one's plans.


Craig


[meteorite-list] Saw Question......

2003-11-07 Thread CMcdon0923
I recently acquired ("freebie") an old (Sears) Craftsman 6" Gem Maker saw and polisher 
combo.  There was no blade in it, but the motor appears to run fine.  I plan to tear 
it down and give it a good cleaning and lubrication this weekend.

Does anyone out there have any experience with these saws?  Prior to checking, I 
assume it probably has a 5/8 or 1/2 inch arbor?  I also assume (dangerous, I know) 
that if the arbor is a standard size, I should be able to use a "standard" type blade?

Your comments and/or suggestions would be most welcome.


Craig

PSApologies if this appears twice, but I think I cut off the list's address on the 
first attempt.




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Re: [meteorite-list] California Burning

2003-10-26 Thread CMcdon0923
My brother and his family live in San Bernardino, and had to evecuate yesterday evening.  As of midnight last night, they didn't know if their house was still standing or not.

My parents live a bit to the south of SB, in Perris, and last I heard there was no real threat there because they're well enough removed from the mountains and any reasonable amount of combustible materials.


Craig


[meteorite-list] Meteorite Display Cabinet

2003-10-23 Thread CMcdon0923
For anyone thinking about buying a display case for your collectioncheck this out !!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2566688058


If only I had the roomand the money !


Fwd: [meteorite-list] Meteorites On Display In Orissa, India

2003-10-23 Thread CMcdon0923

Meteorites are magnetic and contain an alloy of iron and nickel mixed with silicate materials. The geologists say the meteorites that struck the state may have their origin either in Jupiter or Mars.

Sigh..

Ignorance is blissor so they say.
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http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?id=44071

Meteorites on display in Orissa
Sampad Mahapatra
ndtv.com
October 23, 2003

Bhubaneshwar - Three pieces of the extra-large meteorite that lit up the sky 
along coastal Orissa last month have been recovered from two villages in 
Kendrapara district.

These are now on display at the Geological Survey of India office in 
Bhubaneswar for the people to have a closer look.

The meteorites had caused considerable panic across the state on the night of 
September 27 when they crashed.

As a result the extra-terrestrial objects, weighing between 500 grams and 
5.7 kilograms, have aroused great curiosity especially among the school students.

"I had read of these in our geography books, but I hadn't ever seen it. To see 
and touch it has been a great learning experience," said Shobhna Shroff, student.

Meteorites are magnetic and contain an alloy of iron and nickel mixed with 
silicate materials. The geologists say the meteorites that struck the state 
may have their origin either in Jupiter or Mars.

But exact details about its genesis, content and geological age will be known 
after laboratory tests. The pieces will be sent to the Indian Museum in Kolkata 
after the city exhibition for display along with nearly 600 similar pieces of 
meteorites.


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Re: [meteorite-list] A Letter From Blaine Reed

2003-10-14 Thread CMcdon0923

Remember this, just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD do it.  

Well said, and along a similar vein.from a bumpersticker I saw :

   "Just because everybody has one, doesn't mean you have to act like one."



Think about it for a secondit'll come to you...


Re: [meteorite-list] Pictures of the THE BEST WRONGS

2003-10-10 Thread CMcdon0923
Wow.what are details behing the "iron wrong"?  

I must admit, that unless there's something obviously wrong (e.g., weight) when viewing it in person, I would probably have bought it.


Craig


Re: [meteorite-list] Too many List Big Brothers!!!!

2003-10-09 Thread CMcdon0923
Sometimes I feel that this list is becoming one big Spanish Inquisition!!! 

There's a Monty Python skit somewhere in there somewhere, but it just won't come out !


Re: [meteorite-list] ebay descriptions

2003-10-09 Thread CMcdon0923
Another thing that I have always wished for is some type of standardization in the 
"title" field.

I first mentioned this back before there was a separate Ebay category for meteorites, 
and we were just lumped into the MINERALS section.  You had to specifically search for 
the word "meteorite" to see what was available.

I realize that we could never standardize the "great unwashed masses" that list 
meteorites, but my personal wish would be to see specimens from list members listed as 
follows: FIND/FALL NAME - TYPE - WEIGHT - WHOLE/SLICE/PARTSLICE/(other)

I find it extremely annoying to see a location name that I'm interested in, only to 
click on it and see that it's a 0.00438 gram speck.  If it would have said that in 
the title, I needn't waste my time.  Of course that may not benefit the seller, but if 
I'm not interested in it after looking closer, the end result was the sameno sale.

Craig


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Re: [meteorite-list] Flaming Meteorite Causes Heat Attack Death In India

2003-09-30 Thread CMcdon0923


Re: [meteorite-list] A box to put my meteorites in...Part two

2003-09-28 Thread CMcdon0923
I echo the others' sentimentsnice display case !!!

I'm toying with the idea of building a way to house/display my collection, in that I have two oak bookcases in my den, and am sketching plans to install slide out drawers similar to those found in "mineral cabinets" to store my specimens.  

Most of my meteorites are in Riker mounts, so a drawer depth of 1.5 to 2 inches would be sufficient, and the spacing between the current shelves would allow me to install between 10 and 12 drawers of that size.

For those less inclined to build their own, the URL below shows some very nice cabinets.  (It isn't my site, nor am I in any way affiliated with the individual who runs the site.)

 http://members.aol.com/Lilsred/cabs.html

Craig


Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite photography scales

2003-09-05 Thread CMcdon0923
Personally.I prefer the black/white centimeter scaled strips used as opposed to 
the cubes.  Seeing one of the scales in front of a whole specimen or slice, gives me a 
better perspective of the true size of the specimen.

I've toyed around with making one of these scales using MS Exceljust play around 
with setting the cell size in a row to the proper height x width, and black-fill every 
other cell.

And while it certainly would be nice to see some type of standardization in how 
everyone displays their specimens, the imagination used by some people is certainly 
enjoyable.


Craig

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Re: [meteorite-list] Image of Mount Vernon on Ch4 NEWS

2003-08-15 Thread CMcdon0923

"Meteorites can sell for $60,000. "

Really ?!?!?!?   

Well, now we all know the minimum starting bid on this one if it is confirmedafter allthe press said it's worth $60K.

Shakespeare had it rightfirst the lawyers, and then the reporters 







Re: [meteorite-list] Re: [meteoritecollectorsassociation] Thailand Analysis results of hematite

2003-08-14 Thread CMcdon0923
<< and should not be quoted or publicized. >>

So we posted them on the INTERNET !?!?!?!?!?

OKnobody tell.




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Re: [meteorite-list] The Most Expensive Meteorite Ever Sold on eBay (Zagami Mars Meteorite)

2003-08-14 Thread CMcdon0923
Using their "estimated" maximum weight of 190 grams, that works out to $2,368 per 
gramsignificantly more than the regular going rate for Zagami.  (Hey 
SELL2ALL.for something you value at "450 large", go buy a scale.)

BUTdoes a piece of this size demand any type of premium?  And if sothis much?



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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite May Have Been Found In Canada

2003-07-29 Thread CMcdon0923
"the 2.5 kilogram (5.5 pound) rock was identified as possibly belonging to a 
Brenham pallasite meteorite that fell in Kansas in 1882."

Not the best sentence structure... Are they saying that the 2001 find WAS a piece of 
Brenham, or just that it was a pallasite, SIMILAR to Brenham?


" the latest find in Southampton looks as though it had been partially molten, 
perhaps from entering the earth's atmosphere or as a result of volcanic action on 
earth."

Or perhaps from a smelting operation that dumped its slag into the lake?

Hey, I hope it turns out to be a meteorite, but the odds of it happening twice, and 
the "molten" comments don't sound promising.  Hey, at least they didn't say it was 
radioactive!

Craig

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Re: [meteorite-list] ATTENTION ALL re This endless God thread!!!

2003-07-16 Thread CMcdon0923
A quick look at the list archives shows that the last message with any hint of reference to God was posted at about 06:42 Wednesday morning.

Now, approximately 16 hours later (give or take), you post this email..so who's guilty of keeping the thread alive now, and "abusing the list"?


Re: [meteorite-list] Apparent Meteorite Lands In Washington?

2003-07-16 Thread CMcdon0923


Re: [meteorite-list] RE: This endless God thread!!!

2003-07-15 Thread CMcdon0923
<<>They think the universe revolves around THEIR wonderful 

Re: [meteorite-list] God and Science

2003-07-14 Thread CMcdon0923
<>>

Thank you !  We need to reserve the list's bandwidth for MUCH more important 
things like:

Why I Like/Don't Like Ebay
Dealer "flame wars"
Collector "flame wars"
Why Meteorites are Like Sex
The Ebay Police
"Chicago Steve's" trade offers (just kidding Steve)
and a lot more !!!


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RE: [meteorite-list] Origin of the moon /god/meteorites

2003-07-14 Thread CMcdon0923
Gee Mark..at least you're being open minded about it.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar capture theory

2003-07-11 Thread CMcdon0923
In a message dated 7/11/03 9:39:17 PM Central Daylight Time, GeoZay writes:

magnetic field of the proto-sun, generating heat high enough to melt the iron planetesimals in the regions of roughly Mercury out to earth

But the asteroid belt is beyond the earth...so how did that material suddenly move MANY millions of miles away from the supposed inner orbit?


Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar capture theory

2003-07-11 Thread CMcdon0923
In a message dated 7/11/03 9:11:22 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

at the moment it looks to me, the theory, that the asteroid belt was formed from the material left over, when our solar system was formed, is more recent. 

But if it's truly "left over", how do you account for iron meteorites, which are (generally?) assumed to be the cores of these "missing" planetsleftover random junk wouldn't have formed to the mass to generate the thermal activity to differerniate into solid metal, would it?


Re: [meteorite-list] Dealer Refunds

2003-06-27 Thread CMcdon0923
Let me comment from a collector's viewpoint.

The person asking you to refund their money is an idiot.  I've bought several meteorites that have declined in price.  (Anyone want to buy 0.5 gram of Zagami at $1500 per gram?)  And while my transaction took place a few years ago (at the height of the ALH84001 craze), I bought it and that's my problem.

If I want to buy a piece of meteorite "X", I look around for who has some for sale.  If only one dealer is offering it, I look at their price and decide if I wish to pay it.  If so, and a few weeks/months later I see it for lessOh well...tough crap.  If more than one dealer has it, then the aesthetics of the pieces available must be considered.  Sometimes the cheapest specimen is cheapest for a reason.

If you guarantee authenticity for life (which I think/hope you do), that's another thing, but for this person to ask you to refund their price after this long, and after TELLING you that they found it cheaper (?!?!)well, that's not too bright on their part.

The only thing you might want to consider is the possibility of this person becoming a return customer.  But then again, if this is their modus operandi, maybe you don't want them as a customer.

Just my 2 grams worth.

Craig


Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Lands In Back Yard In South Carolina?

2003-06-10 Thread CMcdon0923
But the main question is:   Is it radioactive ?

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Re: [meteorite-list] Seems PF fell on 3/27 and NOT on 3/26...

2003-06-06 Thread CMcdon0923


Re: [meteorite-list] Sputnik satellite - copies....

2003-06-05 Thread CMcdon0923
Actually, I believe there are "legit" copies of Sputnik out there, manufactured in the (former) Soviet Union.  

When we lived back in Eastern PA, I remember an article in the Allentown newspapaer one weekend in their science section, about a small antique store located in Kutztown PA that had one on display (not sure if it was for sale).  I don't remember details as to how many they said existed, or exactly why it was made.

I know where the store is, but never got a chance to go check it out.


Re: [meteorite-list] Is Shirokovsky a meteorite?

2003-05-30 Thread CMcdon0923
If the seller (initials: A.L.) is a member of this group, I would suggest he step 
forward and state his position.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Is Shirokovsky a meteorite?

2003-05-30 Thread CMcdon0923

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Ethics is not dependent of what you're selling, be it meteorites, fossils, coins, 
stamps, gems, or elephant dung. It doesn't matter!  You are either an ethical PERSON 
or you are not.


<< There are some ethic norms in gems, if you are selling a synthetic one, that should 
be mentioned, some dealers do this, some doesn´t. >>

And those who do not are UNethical.


<< Well, it´s sure to me, a man-made pallasite is not a pallsite, but if these will be 
on the market in the future, they should be classified some way. >>

They should be sold as replicas / counterfeit / synthetic, or some other adjective 
that clearly states to the seller that THEY ARE NOT REAL.   Bottom linethey AIN'T 
meteorites!!!

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Re: [meteorite-list] Is Shirokovsky a meteorite?

2003-05-30 Thread CMcdon0923
Well, I have a quite strong feeling, we have the first man-made pallasite in Shirokovsky...;-

No, we DO NOT have a "man-made pallasite".  A pallasite IS a type meteorite.  

Just as a counterfeit coin is not a coin, nor is a counterfeit stamp a stamp, if it turns out to be man-made, we will have a counterfeit "meteorite", made to mimic a pallasite. 

Craig


Re: [meteorite-list] another micro

2003-04-04 Thread CMcdon0923


Re: [meteorite-list] Portales Valley and Park Forest

2003-04-03 Thread CMcdon0923
Regarding this whole discussion on the price of PF, and ANY OTHER meteorite.

There's a little thing we have in this (but not only this) country (i.e., USA)...it's 
called CAPITALISM.  And closely tied to capitalism is a little thing called "supply 
and demand".

Heyit may not be the best economic system ever developed, but it's WAY ahead of 
whatever's second.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Venus?!?!

2003-04-01 Thread CMcdon0923
Look at your calendardoes today's date ring any bells?

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite "fall" Vs. "Shower"

2003-03-31 Thread CMcdon0923
If you can come up with a way to prevent the media from spreading 
misinformation.

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Re: [meteorite-list] new skyrox??? f.park? cliff note's version wanted

2003-03-31 Thread CMcdon0923
How 'bout this.

Big flashbig crashmuch confusionlots of cash.

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Re: [meteorite-list] I wanna....!

2003-03-28 Thread CMcdon0923
Get in line...

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor Chunks Crash In South Suburb - illinois

2003-03-27 Thread CMcdon0923
If you watch the entire video feed, as the reporter rolls it around in her hands, it CERTAINLY seems to be partially crusted, and even may show some regmaglypt-type formations.

We may have an actual "hammer" in Chicago!


Re: [meteorite-list] Pronunciation - Thuathe

2003-03-04 Thread CMcdon0923
Sorry...missed that post.

Thanks.

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[meteorite-list] Pronunciation - Thuathe

2003-03-04 Thread CMcdon0923
Since we were on this topic yesterday for Tatahouine.

Anyone want to offer up a recommendation on how to pronounce "Thuathe"?  I'd like to 
know how to greet them when my stones arrive.

My completely uninformed guess:  Too - ah' - tuh

Sincerely,

Craig



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Re: [meteorite-list] Rock-Picking Farmer Finds $1 MillionMeteorite In

2003-03-03 Thread CMcdon0923
" This is like taking a kilo of pot and saying you busted a
dealer with a million dollars of dope, because, if you sell it by the joint."

DUDE    Cool analogy 

Sorryflashback to my mis-spent youth.


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