Re: [meteorite-list] US Import Campo del Cielo
It is illegal to export from or import to without a permit, but that doesn't stop many from doing it. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Manuel Quiring via Meteorite-list wrote: Dear list members, one of our sellers today was a bit insecure because he was told about US import restrictions/bans on Campos, due to Argentinas export ban. I have to admit, that something like a US import restriction on Campos is unheard of by me, so I would like to ask if somebody validated information on this. Many thanks in advance for any information. Mit freundlichen Grüssen / Kind regards, | | Manuel Quiring Auctioneer Fossils & Meteorites T:+31 6 11305835E:m.quir...@catawiki.dew:www.catawiki.de | www.catawiki.com | __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Display at Yale Peabody & Replica News
I never said the IMCA was bad, there are many great people that make it up. That said dealers running a collectors group is highly conflicting when the dealers can band together and eject members (who also sell) for things that others do - at least one being a board member... Perhaps dirk Ross care to comment on just how many times and how many members asked about IMCA budget info... I was far from the only one just I was the most vocal when I ran for the board - and had more then a couple votes... Old news though, right? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 12, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Anne Black wrote: > > Greg, > > If you were better informed you would know that the State of Nevada requires > that any entity registered with the State of Nevada provides them with a > physical address where they can send any mail, information, paperwork. > > Adam, who lives in Nevada, graciously accepted to be the association' s > mailman. And he still is. > No longer a Director, but still the Mailman. > Adam, please verify this. > > > Anne M. Black > www.IMPACTIKA.com > impact...@aol.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Greg Catterton > To: Anne Black ; raremeteorites > ; gmhupe > Cc: meteorite-list > Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2016 7:05 pm > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Display at Yale Peabody & Replica News > > > Please, I was the one that brought it up that it expired during my time was I > was running for a spot on the board. Those that were on the IMCA list at the > time know full and well what I am talking about. Its easy to deflect blame > and try to point a finger at me for things rather then just stick to the > facts I mentioned. I made it full and clear when I was running for a spot > that I would be kicked out within a year, its no secret. I do know Adam > (thanks to a private email) is the one that made a nice chunk of money > available to the IMCA for its use. Call it a donation or what ever,... For > almost 2 YEARS the IMCA went on expired non profit status. SO please queen > anne tell me, who OWNS the IMCA then? WHos info is on all the current > documents? > > > Greg Catterton https://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wandering-Star-Meteorites/252302821456481 > > > > From: Anne Black > To: star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com; raremeteori...@centurylink.net; > gmh...@centurylink.net > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 7:23 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Display at Yale Peabody & Replica News > > > > Greg C. > > You have a vivid imagination! Since I was on the IMCA Board at the time, let > me set the facts straight. > > - There never was any funds missing from the IMCA, not even a penny. Maria > Haas and all the IMCA Directors past and present can vouch for that, > including Adam. > > - Adam and/or Greg Hupe never bought the IMCA, because it never was for > sale. They have both been members since the beginning, and Adam served 2 > terms as one of the 9 Directors on the Board. > > - The non-profit status of the IMCA never lapsed. Paperwork was late once > due to miscommunication, but not late enough to endanger the non-profit > status. > > However, > > I do know that you are no longer an IMCA member. Shall we discuss why? I > won't need to use my imagination. > > > Anne M. Black > www.IMPACTIKA.com > impact...@aol.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: Greg Catterton via Meteorite-list > To: Raremeteorites > Cc: > > Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2016 1:25 pm > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Display at Yale Peabody & Replica News > > Is the concerning the IMCA funds (a few thousand) that were missing several > years ago? I know at one point you and or Greg apparently bought the IMCA > when it's non profit status was no longer valid. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 11, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list >> wrote: >> >> Since you bring it up, How about the money you embezzled from all of us and >> that my attorney politely asked you to return This doesn't include >> unauthorized expenses like lobster, steak and wine dinners, not to mention >> unnecessary travel. All of this will be available to the public after it is >> heard in court. You are also piggy-backing off of six years of my hard work >> before you even came onboard. You should create your website, casting >> system, descriptions and promotional material instead of sponging off of my >> hard work. You are en
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Display at Yale Peabody & Replica News
A collectors group run by dealers. Very fitting. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 12, 2016, at 10:03 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > I only act as an agent for the IMCA here in Nevada. The IMCA belongs to the > fine people who make up its membership. I ran for election and volunteered my > time on the board because I believe in what the IMCA stands for. I was never > compensated other than having the satisfaction who doing what I felt was > right. The board was elected by their peers. They serve tirelessly without > compensation. They volunteer in order to make this a better community. The > IMCA is a bright spot with a high standard of ethics. There is nothing amiss > with this great organization. > > We should thank the IMCA for helping all of us. > > Adam Hupe > IMCA 2185 > > . > - Original Message - From: "Anne Black" > To: ; ; > > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 6:40 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Display at Yale Peabody & Replica News > > > Greg, > > If you were better informed you would know that the State of Nevada requires > that any entity registered with the State of Nevada provides them with a > physical address where they can send any mail, information, paperwork. > > Adam, who lives in Nevada, graciously accepted to be the association' s > mailman. And he still is. > No longer a Director, but still the Mailman. > Adam, please verify this. > > > Anne M. Black > www.IMPACTIKA.com > impact...@aol.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Greg Catterton > To: Anne Black ; raremeteorites > ; gmhupe > Cc: meteorite-list > Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2016 7:05 pm > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Display at Yale Peabody & Replica News > > > Please, I was the one that brought it up that it expired during my time was I > was running for a spot on the board. Those that were on the IMCA list at the > time know full and well what I am talking about. Its easy to deflect blame > and try to point a finger at me for things rather then just stick to the > facts I mentioned. I made it full and clear when I was running for a spot > that I would be kicked out within a year, its no secret. I do know Adam > (thanks to a private email) is the one that made a nice chunk of money > available to the IMCA for its use. Call it a donation or what ever,... For > almost 2 YEARS the IMCA went on expired non profit status. SO please queen > anne tell me, who OWNS the IMCA then? WHos info is on all the current > documents? > > > Greg Catterton https://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wandering-Star-Meteorites/252302821456481 > > > > From: Anne Black > To: star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com; raremeteori...@centurylink.net; > gmh...@centurylink.net > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 7:23 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Display at Yale Peabody & Replica News > > > > Greg C. > > You have a vivid imagination! Since I was on the IMCA Board at the time, let > me set the facts straight. > > - There never was any funds missing from the IMCA, not even a penny. Maria > Haas and all the IMCA Directors past and present can vouch for that, > including Adam. > > - Adam and/or Greg Hupe never bought the IMCA, because it never was for > sale. They have both been members since the beginning, and Adam served 2 > terms as one of the 9 Directors on the Board. > > - The non-profit status of the IMCA never lapsed. Paperwork was late once > due to miscommunication, but not late enough to endanger the non-profit > status. > > However, > > I do know that you are no longer an IMCA member. Shall we discuss why? I > won't need to use my imagination. > > > Anne M. Black > www.IMPACTIKA.com > impact...@aol.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: Greg Catterton via Meteorite-list > To: Raremeteorites > Cc: > > Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2016 1:25 pm > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Display at Yale Peabody & Replica News > > Is the concerning the IMCA funds (a few thousand) that were missing several > years ago? I know at one point you and or Greg apparently bought the IMCA > when it's non profit status was no longer valid. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 11, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list >> wrote: >> >> Since you bring it up, How about the money you embezzled from all of us and >> that my attorney politely asked you
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Display at Yale Peabody & Replica News
Is the concerning the IMCA funds (a few thousand) that were missing several years ago? I know at one point you and or Greg apparently bought the IMCA when it's non profit status was no longer valid. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 11, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > Since you bring it up, How about the money you embezzled from all of us and > that my attorney politely asked you to return This doesn't include > unauthorized expenses like lobster, steak and wine dinners, not to mention > unnecessary travel. All of this will be available to the public after it is > heard in court. You are also piggy-backing off of six years of my hard work > before you even came onboard. You should create your website, casting > system, descriptions and promotional material instead of sponging off of my > hard work. You are entitled to none of this and everybody knows how I feel > about piggbackers who are too lazy or greedy to perform their own work and > pay their own expenses.. > > I am only responding in public to the list since I have been told to stay out > direct contact with the defendants and you chose to post this nonsense to the > list. > > There is a reason you are all alone in Florida > . > Adam > > > > > > > > - Original Message - From: "Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list" > > To: > Cc: > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 1:47 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Display at Yale Peabody & Replica News > > >> Adam, >> >> I can no longer save you from yourself. Your self destructive behavior, your >> greed, your delusions are known by most everyone! You make that fake lunar >> meteorite salesman appear 'normal'! You are, and have always been, a >> miserable excuse for a human being, always so negative and stealing other's >> hard work without credit. You are simply a Masterful Manipulator who has >> finally been caught, many people have contacted me in private since your >> last public attack on me and have provided damning evidence against you. >> Take for instance that is was actually your 'Original' and 'Current' >> business partner Jeff Krosschell who made the NWA 5000 mold and even babysat >> it in his own bedroom during the process. You sat there and smoked and >> watched like always. >> >> You remember Jeff, right Adam? He is married to your wife's daughter... You >> know, the one's who you defrauded on the whole NWA 5000 story. You claimed >> and continue to claim to have made things 'right' with them wherein fact >> they have received "not one cent to this day" and were led to believe they >> were at fault as you coerced them into thinking they owned less than their >> rightful 50% ownership of 6.5 kilos in NWA 5000 (I purchased the returned 5 >> kilos directly from the Moroccan owners in 2013). You clearly Defrauded your >> Business Partners, major mistake Number 1!! Continued mistake and harassment >> from you towards me is now you are interfering with my business which has >> very harsh legal penalties that you have forced me to exercise and will do >> without pause. I will pursue and remedy this issue to the fullest extent of >> the law! You will be lucky to own a pair of shorts in order to pull out >> empty pockets by the time we are done, maybe you will be lucky and still >> have your freedom if the judge is lenient on you. This time it will be Absolute & Final. I will no longer allow you to torment and harass me which has put me in the hospital twice for ulcers this year. >> >> I've warned you for three years now, Leave Me Alone. You are incapable of >> listening to reason and make things right with your business partners, which >> are in fact your family and your wife's own daughter!! Your time behind the >> delusional and harassing keyboard are just about over. Time to say Goodbye >> to the Keyboard Kommander! Enjoy your sales of oriented gold nuggets and the >> freedom to use your John Deere lawn mower to rip out lithic scatter on your >> vacant desert plots while you have the funds for gas and the freedom to do >> so. >> >> Let it be known that Adam's dumping of NWA 5000 on eBay over the last 2 1/2 >> years is in clear violation and 'legally' not his material as the rightful >> owners and original partners have not been remedied in this matter. I am a >> key witness to this effect and know everything very clearly! >> >> My making of and the sales of the NWA 5000 replica is 100% legal and ALL >> Permissions have and were granted well before my announcements. Any and all >> 'Tortious Interference' will be dealt with harshly, as in this clear case of >> Adam Libeling and Defaming me here in public! >> >> Best Regards, >> Greg >> >> >> Greg Hupe >> The Hupe Collection >> gmh...@centurylink.net >> www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog & Reference Site) >> www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) >> NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest & eBay) >> http://ww
Re: [meteorite-list] In regards to NWA 10495
Brother against brother and dog eat dog. Welcome to the world of meteorites. Sad to see.. Hate to see all this so publicly aired, but thats how people in the community handle things... Right Jason Utas? Greg Catterton https://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.org https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wandering-Star-Meteorites/252302821456481 From: Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list To: meteorite list Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] In regards to NWA 10495 Adam, If you do to want to read nonsense, you should not write nonsense! Your written accusations of libel is libel in itself against me. I highly suggest you stop while you are behind! Everybody knows you AND Jeff Kroschell were/are partners and the ones who began the project. You dropped the ball and I picked it up years after you couldn't do it. I rescued the 'mission' and carried the ball across the finish line. Almost everyone is happy except YOU! YOU will never be happy unless you are writing 'nonsense' on the List. Go spend all of the money I put in yours (and hopefully Jeff's family's) pocket and quit throwing it away on wasteful things! Best regards,Greg Hupe Sent from my iPhone On Jun 17, 2016, at 7:52 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list wrote: To set the record straight, Greg came on board six years after NWA 5000 was discovered and performed none of the critical ground work. He has taken credit for images that I paid to have professionally done by Pat Gifford and provided them to another website, plagiarized and uses a website that I spent over a 1,000 hours producing years before he became involved and he is selling unauthorized versions of a replica created on a mold/casting system that I designed and produced from scratch. I never planned on these castings to be placed in public hands. He has now committed libel among other previous offenses with the falsehoods he posted last night. People need to respect others intellectual, copyrighted and artistic works. This is not about shameless self-promotion on my part. I did not chase the press at its inaugural public viewing at the Royal Ontario Museum, was not present and paid to have the classifying scientist represent NWA 5000 at the event. There is only a single image of myself on the official NWA 5000 website buried deep at the back end. I have avoided making the story about myself since I will, more than likely, only be a footnote in its long-term history anyway. It has always been about the stone in my case. I just want its history to be reflected accurately and not read nonsense. http://themeteoritesite.com/ Adam Hupe - Original Message - From: geohigg...@yahoo.com via Meteorite-list To: Greg Hupe ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] In regards to NWA 10495 Who brokered the deals to the new Maine museum? This is where you find the trouble maker. The museum and it's supplier are setting this mysterious larger lunar up for a sale with these comments, This museum has already been involved in a major scandal regarding stolen meteorites. Now the curator has the audacity to introduce themselves and the museum to the World by throwing attacks and insults. Two strikes already on the museum and the management. I can tell you one thing Greg Hupe is the most honorable, honest hard working person I ever had the pleasure of knowing in the world of meteorites. His hard work, efforts and accomplishments have inspired my passion for meteorites. As far as I know this is a time for celebration, when a meteorite goes on display in Yale University, everyone of us should be excited. We can all share in the excitement of this wonderful achievement. Those of us who decide to put ego and jealousy first, shame on you. This shows who you really are and your true intentions. Some people only care about the money they can take from meteorites and all they work on is shameless self promotions that don't put science first. You are the people who cause the problems in the World and with meteorites too, your attitudes suck. Greg's achievements with NWA 5000 and the others during the last 20 years are like a beacon in the darkness, his accomplishments working with scientists, museums and universities are in start contrast to the accusations coming from people who sell their meteorites in auction houses and are involved in scandals. Greg I thank you for being the best and staying the course, you are the most achieved person in the Meteorite universe and I support everything you do and you are a role model to those of us who one day hope to make half as many discoveries. All the best, John Higgins - Reply message - From: "Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list" To: "Bigjohn Shea" , "meteorite list" Cc: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Me
[meteorite-list] AD - meteorites for sale, awesome deals on thin sections also!
Hi to all, hope everyone is doing well. I have a great deal to offer - 6 thin sections for only $120.00 You will get katol, tatahouine, NWA 1465, an L4, L6 and H5. First come first served. Also, a very nice selection of Canyon Diablo meteorites for sale. I will take 50% off the Canyon Diablos that are over 60g on my website. http://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com/canyon-diablo-iron-meteorites-for-sale.html I have a 26g part slice of Travis County (a) with monnig label and impeccable provenance for sale - $70.00 There are also only 5 slices of NWA 6871, a very highly shocked Ureilite left. A low TKW and no known pairings, this has already been wrote about and studied by several people, here is a link to a very nice report on this meteorite: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metsoc2012/pdf/5240.pdf 2 complete slices and 3 part slices are all that is left. I have several other assorted meteorites offered, all can be seen here: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wandering-Star-Meteorites/252302821456481 Meteorites included are - Zag, Martian, Tagish Lake, Orgueil, Ivuna, Gold Basin (89 gram golf ball sized individual)Gibeon, Thuathe, Henbury, Chelyabinsk, “Arroyo Malo", Allende, Bensour, Gao, and others. Thanks again for looking, feel free to contact me with offers on these meteorites. Greg Catterton https://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wandering-Star-Meteorites/252302821456481 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD- Meteorites for sale, thin sections and more!
Hi to all, I have some really nice meteorites for sale. 10% off listed prices! see some of the meteorites available here: www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com or on my facebook page listed below. Also available are several thin sections, all uncovered to allow full study. Thin sections are best prices around and currently for sale are: 2 Katol thin sections 1 Tatahouine thin section 2 NWA 1465 ANOMALOUS CV3! 1 NWA 6550 LL3.7 HUGE surface area takes up most of the slide... NWA thin section collection (3 included) for $75.00 Thin sections are $35 each plus postage, good luck finding a better price!!! Thanks for looking, hope everyone has a great day. Greg Catterton https://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wandering-Star-Meteorites/252302821456481 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Stunning Canyon Diablo meteorites for sale, Katol and more!
Hi to all. I recently traded for a nice selection of very nice quality Canyon Diablo meteorites. These are from a very old collection traced back to HH Nininger in origin. Weights available are from 5 grams up to 20g Samples of these are here: http://s27.photobucket.com/user/jedisdiamond/library/Canyon%20Diablo%20iron%20Meteorites%20for%20sale You can see the full selection and many other incredible meteorites for sale at the following links. Will consider offers Meteorites for sale https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wandering-Star-Meteorites/252302821456481 And my website has been updated to include some nice meteorites like Katol thin sections and so much more. http://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com/ Thanks for taking the time to see what I am offering for sale, hope you see something you like! Greg Catterton https:/I/www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wandering-Star-Meteorites/252302821456481 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - 20% off sale! updates, big meteorite sale $100 FREE??
HI to all. From here out, Wandering Star Meteorites will be offering only the finest documented meteorites available for sale. ALL our new and exclusive classified meteorites will come with FULL TESTING REPORT, PHOTOS AND ALL INFORMATION FROM OFFICIAL CLASSIFICATION - IM TALKING TOP OF THE LINE PACKAGE OFFERED BY NOBODY BUT US. You can visit our website at www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com We currently are offering 20% off sitewide minus the $5.00 meteorite page and thin section page. Will consider offers on listed meteorites. Buy $500 in meteorites, get $100 for FREE Thanks, Greg __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - 20% off sale! updates, big meteorite sale $100 FREE??
Sorry, forgot to include a link to some new material not yet on the website: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wandering-Star-Meteorites/252302821456481 It includes some Katol thin sections for sale too... Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wandering-Star-Meteorites/252302821456481 On Saturday, November 30, 2013 5:54 PM, Greg Catterton wrote: MASSIVE UPDATES to the website today, check out the "Exclusives" under the "meteorites for sale" tab. Some incredible NEW meteorites being offered for the very first time. Some really interesting material, inclusions, chondrules and everything else to make you say wow! www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com http://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com/meteorites-for-sale.html Here you will find NEW NWA 7963 and 8140, both limited amounts available. Enjoy 20% off or buy $500 and get $100 FREE!!! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - 20% off sale! updates, big meteorite sale $100 FREE??
MASSIVE UPDATES to the website today, check out the "Exclusives" under the "meteorites for sale" tab. Some incredible NEW meteorites being offered for the very first time. Some really interesting material, inclusions, chondrules and everything else to make you say wow! www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com http://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com/meteorites-for-sale.html Here you will find NEW NWA 7963 and 8140, both limited amounts available. Enjoy 20% off or buy $500 and get $100 FREE!!! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - incredible assortment of meteorites, need to sell ASAP
Hi to all, still needing to raise some money for my house. Please take a moment to see if there is anything that would interest you. WWW.WANDERINGSTARMETEORITES.COM Its taking a MASSIVE UPDATE TODAY. Im talking some unbelievable photos, information, and is well worth taking a look at. While still under rebuilding and restructuring, we are offering some great deals on meteorites for sale. Stop, by, browse around and find some deals! Buy $500 and get $100 free OR get 20% off your total purchase! Feel free to make offers on bulk orders!! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Awesome assortment of meteorites for sale - must sell asap
Hi to all, I have to sell pretty much everything on my website asap. Under the meteorites for sale tab is a great assortment of premium meteorites for sale, will consider offers on large amounts purchased. I really need the help the sales would bring, my home depends on it - I have 7 days left to raise the money to save it from mess my ex created. http://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com/meteorites-for-sale.html Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wandering Star Meteorites... IS BACK.
Hi to all, as I said in my previous AD, Life happens and the past 2 years have been a test and a rough road for me personally... but its a test I will/have passed. I am happy to announce that even after someone attempted to hack my account and take my website... www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com is BACK. Thanks to all who have been understanding in delays, both shipping and service delays. In major part, its been due to a divorce, custody battle, fight for legal ownership of my house and personal issues of that nature. At one point, I had my meteorite inventory in 3 different states... I dropped the ball with my business some because too much of my focus was on things mentioned above. While we are still in the rebuilding process, new items, new pages and more information and meteorites for sale are happening every day, sometimes several times an hour. If you EVER wanted to OWN something from outer space, I can make that happen. For our USA customers we are now using USPS priority mail 2nd day for $6.00 and ship within 24 business hours of payment. When possible, same day! Overseas order will ship within 48 business hours for $12.00 (sorry overseas shipping has gotten costly) I hope to see and hear from past customers, new costumers and also those who were effected by delays and my personal issues. I know who you are and wont forget your trust when you decide to return. Thanks taking the time to read this, I hope everyone has a good day. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites to sell, great deals, tryingto save my home...
Hi to all, been a long time since I posted. Life happens. Long story short, I am separated got my house back after 15 month court battle. When my ex found out she had to give the house back, she stopped paying the mortgage. I have to catch up on 6 months she did not pay or I lose my house to foreclosure. The bank will not work with me due to her actions. I can maintain the bills, but cant get out of this $6100 hole she has put me into. I am selling off everything I own to save my families house. I cant get help because it is worth almost 2x what I owe on it. I have 5 kids that are depending on me raising the cash I need. If you are looking to buy meteorites, please take a look at my listings. http://www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com/meteorites-for-sale.html and also on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.647466081940151.1073741858.252302821456481&type=1 Shipping is with paypal USPS priority mail to the USA - OVERSEAS WILL VARY - DUE TO RECENT EVENTS, I WILL LIKE MOST OTHER DEALERS WILL NOT SHIP TO ITALY (UNLESS WE HAVE DONE BUSINESS BEFORE) WILL SHIP WITHIN 24 BUSINESS HOURS OF PAYMENT CLEARING PAYPAL. I am having to use a central account for payments to pay the bank/lawyers - that paypal is: mommymcjunk...@yahoo.com should anyone choose to help.I Need the help, otherwise I wouldnt be putting this public Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction
I dont disagree, lunar is my favorite but it makes me question... why has Lunar meteorite value decreased from $25,000 a gram to $400 a gram or less - in some cases as low as $200 a gram for one certain lunar meteorite? Thats a loss in value of $24,600 or more in 14 years on lunar while Martian has increased. Perhaps Martian samples are on the way to becoming the new king? Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Wed, 5/22/13, Adam Hupe wrote: > From: Adam Hupe > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction > To: "Adam" > Date: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 2:15 PM > Lunar is still king and always will > be. Lunar 14 years ago was over $25,000.00/gram for DAG > pieces while Martian was only $60.00/gram for Zagami. > Lunar material can be very striking while there is only one > Martian breccia. > > > Adam > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: Greg Catterton > To: Adam ; > Adam Hupe > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:06 AM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch > $160,000 At Auction > > 1999 is also 14 years ago... back then lunar was $1500 a > gram or more always. Today lunar can be had for less then > $400 a gram. Times have changed. > > Greg Catterton > www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com > On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites > On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites > > > --- On Wed, 5/22/13, Adam Hupe > wrote: > > > From: Adam Hupe > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch > $160,000 At Auction > > To: "Adam" > > Date: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 11:05 AM > > They stated that meteorites from Mars > > tend to fetch more than most other meteorites. This > is in > > direct disagreement with the Smithsonian Magazine > article, > > "Mining for Meteorites", 1999 which claims a dislodged > piece > > of the Moon is the most coveted of all. > > > > This still holds true today. I think most people, > not > > only collectors, relate more to the Moon because it can > be > > seen, has been romanticized since ancient times and > most > > lunar meteorites have magnitudes better aesthetic > > qualities. Interestingly enough, there is multiple > times > > more Martian meteorite material available by weight > than > > Lunar material. > > > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Tom Randall > > To: Meteorite list > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:08 AM > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch > $160,000 > > At Auction > > > > > > http://bit.ly/10Pfjwv > > > > Regards! > > > > Tom > > > > __ > > > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > > > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction
1999 is also 14 years ago... back then lunar was $1500 a gram or more always. Today lunar can be had for less then $400 a gram. Times have changed. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Wed, 5/22/13, Adam Hupe wrote: > From: Adam Hupe > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction > To: "Adam" > Date: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 11:05 AM > They stated that meteorites from Mars > tend to fetch more than most other meteorites. This is in > direct disagreement with the Smithsonian Magazine article, > "Mining for Meteorites", 1999 which claims a dislodged piece > of the Moon is the most coveted of all. > > This still holds true today. I think most people, not > only collectors, relate more to the Moon because it can be > seen, has been romanticized since ancient times and most > lunar meteorites have magnitudes better aesthetic > qualities. Interestingly enough, there is multiple times > more Martian meteorite material available by weight than > Lunar material. > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Tom Randall > To: Meteorite list > > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:08 AM > Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 > At Auction > > > http://bit.ly/10Pfjwv > > Regards! > > Tom > > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale - Moon, Mars, Irons and more, something for everyone!
Hi to all, been some time since I posted an AD. Been busy with life and family issues, but Im back... So, without further ado... Check out these great meteorites for sale, will consider best offers! You can see all the listings here: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wandering-Star-Meteorites/252302821456481 Here is a nice assortment of what is being offered: Irons 21.78 gram Mundrabilla iron meteorite with natural patina http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF9882_zpsc4786ac9.jpg 11.63 gram Henbury Iron meteorite, painted number of 1992, find #5 http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF9886_zps57b37ab9.jpg 13.81g Muonionalusta iron meteorite http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF9884_zps3c67c727.jpg 23.43 gram Canyon Diablo iron meteorite http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF9888_zps7e264a90.jpg Lunar .865g NWA 6355 lunar part slice http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/lunar%20meteorites%20for%20sale/NWA6355865gd_zps8bb423e4.jpg .25g NWA 5000 lunar meteorite with free iron http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/lunar%20meteorites%20for%20sale/NWA500025ga_zps9162972c.jpg .25g Dhofar 910 lunar meteorite http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/lunar%20meteorites%20for%20sale/Dhofar91025ga_zpsb19bfd62.jpg .056g Dhofar 911 http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/lunar%20meteorites%20for%20sale/Dhofar911056gb_zps9a7219cf.jpg Martian 2.24g NWA 6963 Martian meteorite http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Martian%20Meteorites%20for%20sale/NWA6963224ga_zpsb9d61245.jpg .52g NWA 6963 fusion crusted martian fragment http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Martian%20Meteorites%20for%20sale/NWA696352ga_zps673cecbf.jpg .25g NWA 6963 fusion crusted martian fragment http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Martian%20Meteorites%20for%20sale/NWA696325ga_zps96476003.jpg 1.25g NWA 4857 fusion crusted martian individual http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Martian%20Meteorites%20for%20sale/NWA4857125ga_zpsdd3565b2.jpg .10g NWA 1195 martian part slice http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Martian%20Meteorites%20for%20sale/NWA119510gb_zpsf611d27d.jpg .062g NWA 5990 martian fragment http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Martian%20Meteorites%20for%20sale/NWA5990062ga_zpsa42866c3.jpg NWA 6871 highly shocked and rare Ureilite 6 samples left, then its all gone! pics on request Other assorted meteorites for sale: http://s27.photobucket.com/user/jedisdiamond/library/Meteorites%20for%20sale Thanks for looking, any questions, additional pics and info message me off list. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wandering-Star-Meteorites/252302821456481 open page __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD -achondrites, CK, CR, CO, CV and more for sale - worth a look!
Hi to all... I have a very nice assortment of achondrite and chondrite meteorites currently listed for sale on ebay, several with museum provenance. Many rare types and a lot of carbonaceous material. Great prices, will consider best offers for sale off ebay to save fees. http://www.ebay.com/sch/freedom_factory/m.html?item=170971735860&ssPageName=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562 Thanks for looking, hope everyone has a good day! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Many nice meteorites for sale
Hi to all, hope everyone had a great new year. I just listed a huge selection of meteorites, surely something for anyone. http://www.ebay.com/sch/freedom_factory/m.html?item=170966748142&ssPageName=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562 Will consider offers for off ebay sales. Several orders shipped today - a few that were late - so keep an eye out if your expecting something. Thanks for looking. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mark Ferguson please contact asap, think your facebook has been hacked
Subject says it all. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Claxton, Karoonda with musueum provenance and more
Hi to all. Hope everyone is having a good day Having a sale on some nice meteorites. Claxton .456g part slice w provenance Karoonda .92g with museum label and provenance NWA 6389 CR2 12.6g end cut for sale NWA 6963 Martian Fragments up to 2.24g some with fusion crust! NWA 6291 andgrite and a thin section Tatahouine Chergach individuals Bassikounou individuals Tamdaght NWA 4734 .37g Lunar fragment Nice 80+ gram Gold Basin individual and more... OFF LIST please. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Allende, Chergach and 2 NWA CV3 thin sections $45 each
Hi to all, hope all is well. Got to raise some cash asap... that said, I am offering some really nice uncovered thin sections for sale. $45 per section, buy 4 or more and get them for $40 each... Available are: Allende Chergach NWA 6870 CV3 NWA 6423 CV3 Thanks for looking, Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thin sections for sale $65 and under!
I have several thin sections for sale at great prices - likely the lowest you will find for them. All are uncovered to allow for study. 3 Allende$65 each 3 NWA 6870 (CV3) $60 each 1 Chergach $60 1 NWA 6423 (CV3) $55 While they last. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale
Hi to all, I have a nice selection of meteorites offered for sale on ebay. As always I am open for offers for sale OFF EBAY at better prices to save ebay fees. You can see my listed items here: http://stores.ebay.com/Wandering-Star-Meteorites?_trksid=p4340.l2563 Thanks for looking, Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA Money Matters & my resignation
Thats sad to hear Mike. I contributed to help the Footes with my donation of Carancas hammer items (the only ones in my collection) and really hope the full amount was given to them. I am happy more are starting to go public with this info. I think it needs to be made known that there are problems internally at the IMCA for changes to be made to make the group what it could and should be. 2 years ago there was Berduc being sold from IMCA members at Tucson also. A few of them... Dave and I talked about it when we saw it. I harmed and hurt a friendship with a very nice person by mentioning it to the IMCA, One of the few things I really regret that happened and I am very fortunate I was forgiven by him for it.Thank you again for your forgiveness, you know who you are. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites - Original Message - From: Michael Blood To: Met. Greg Catterton ; jason utas ; Meteorite List Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA Money Matters & my resignation Hi Greg and all, Money issues were one of the key reasons I resigned from the IMCA, Though my resignation was not limited to that, do PLEASE BE SURE TO READ "1 Addendum" HERE ARE THE (major) REASONS: I RESIGNED FROM THE IMCA: 1- Though many members have repeatedly asked for a financial report from the IMCA, members have been told, by the board, QUOTE: What is the big deal? Don't you trust us? UNQUOTE When information like this is withheld, it is easy to lose your trust. 1- Addendum - Shortly before the Tucson Show I was informed of actions which, if true, confirm and exceed my worst misgivings about the financial behavior of the IMCA: I contacted Gary Foote and his wife, CJ to see if they had received the funds generated by the auctioning of a Jerry Armstrong painting. CJ told me how grateful she was for all the financial help the meteorite community had given them and that the buyer of the Jerry Armstrong painting paid them directly (they also received other money from the IMCA and from individuals who were made aware of their peril by the IMCA). While expressing overwhelming and sincere gratitude to Those who had sent money, she told me that the IMCA treasurer had later contacted her and asked her to return half the money the IMCA had generated for them, stating only, "Other people are in need." The timing was the worst possible as CJ had just been told by his doctors that Gary's life was hanging by a thread and she could loose him at any moment. She reports she told the IMCA treasurer that every cent had gone to medical costs and basic survival needs. She was then asked for a written accounting of how all money she received was spent. CJ told me that at that point her emotional state and the circumstances of life and death they were facing, hardly allowed for such an accounting and the conversation was terminated. When this was happening, I was still a member. As a member, money for Gary and his wife had been solicited by the IMCA. The request by the treasurer of the IMCA that half that money be returned clearly constitutes a betrayal of all who donated to that cause, not to mention the trauma to The Footes. I certainly feel betrayed. It is hard to believe any of the members of the IMCA who donated to this cause would find this acceptable. 2- The IMCA has involved itself in disputes between dealers. Several dealers have chosen to resign rather than have the IMCA used to leveraged in their personal transactions with other dealers. This was a major factor for me, but definitely far from the only factor in my Resigning. 3- The IMCA has recently taken it upon themselves to condemn people dealing in meteorites from countries that prohibit exportation - in spite of the fact that I have been told by several people I trust that one prominent Board Member was openly offering Burduc at the Tucson Show and another had been personally involved in exporting Burduc. 4- When someone does resign, the remaining dealer is free to state their position and make any accusations they please. The resigned dealer is not even allowed to know what was said about him. (I was told by a good friend it is against the rules to foreword any IMCA post to a non-member). I know of several dealers who have been ejected or resigned rather than be subjected to the hypocrisy of IMCA power brokers - and all but one were over issues NOT having anything to do with authenticity. 5- I recommended Michael Gilmer for membership as he is a fine, open hearted & genuinely good guy - The IMCA refused to accept Michael Gilmer as a member though he had done nothing wrong, stating he, QUOTE: "has not been around long enough." Is there a defined waiting period for acceptance? I doubt that if he was a collector and n
Re: [meteorite-list] International Laws related to meteorites link - good info
Jason, I was "going after" the IMCA while I was still a member and was running for a spot on the board two elections ago. This is all in the archives unless the purged it to cover up the activities they are doing. They still wont account for where all the money they get in member dues has went, why the non profit status was revoked in 2008, who Daniel K. Cathcart is (the one time owner) Anyone know him? Who the current owner is (Adam Hupe?) how and why he came to own it... As a member of the IMCA, I lost a lot of faith in the group for the lack of answers to questions many had. Not just me. I was just the most outspoken about it. I even went to say that if I was not elected, I would be kicked out of the group within months for what I was pressing them to answer and the fact they would not. I and MANY other members asked for budget info for years. They would NOT release it. They wont say who and how many members are free (Bribed?) to be members... They are silent just like on this. Legal status of meteorites and import export goees to the heart of the IMCA code of ethics yet they do nothing about it to help the community. This is not me being mad about not being a member or even your stupid blacklist site you have. Its about honesty of the group who is supposed to (or should be) the go to for real meteorite info and authenticity. The IMCA is useless unless you want the logo to sell meteorites under some false and half hearted rules and ethics. When Mike Blood offered to buy the entire board Robert rules, they said no! Why? That is a great resource they choose not to accept his kind offer. Please dont get me wrong, there are some great people in the IMCA and even the board has a few good ones, but not many who are in actual control. Its a marketing gimmick. Thats it. The IMCA could be great, but they are not currently effective in pretty much anything. The official reason I am not a member is because I tried to export a buzzard coulee prior to me getting the permit. (which I did get) and the reason I wanted it was to have a very fresh sample to provide to a friend for study and thin sectioning... I did not want to wait several months for it and who knows what contamination to occur... NO OTHER REASON. I have the emails from the IMCA board showing this and will provide them to ANYONE who wants to see. Anyone who says different, please speak up now. I could go on, but I will wait to see if anything I said here is addressed... likely will be silent as usual and try to sweep these things under the rug. So again, please IMCA board, owner, president, vice president? Any want to answer the questions above? Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites From: jason utas To: Meteorite-list Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] International Laws related to meteorites link - good info Hello All, Greg Catterton said: > How can you say that after your first two comments? Anne Black has repeatedly > stated Sulagiri and meteorites from India are > ILLEGAL, same as Berduc and others. It seems that Anne's word alone is not sufficient to create new laws in India. She quoted the 1865 reference to me, and it does not seem to exist. Berduc, on the other hand, does appear to be illegally exported based on what I've heard about Argentina's laws, but I haven't looked into that and feel unqualified to comment. > ITS NOT ABOUT ME. Its not about you... its about the export laws that in your > first comment above, CLEARLY shows that its not > acceptable to the local law/governing bodies. At the time, India was the property of the crown, and Britain has never had any export laws pertaining to British meteorites. Thus, your interpretation of the circulars/letters as some form of a prohibitive export law makes no sense whatsoever. It would be like the US restricting the export of meteorites from Puerto Rico while ignoring/allowing exports from the mainland. Again, it simply does not make sense. You have no evidence to suggest that the export of meteorites from India is illegal, yet you continue to insist upon that notion. This really does seem to be about YOU versus the IMCA. And ME. Lol. Jason On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Greg Catterton wrote: > Jason said: > > "As best I can tell, the existing arrangement is a domestic protocol > for local officials to follow if they obtain a meteorite. However, > recent meteorite falls in India have been commandeered by the > government by local officials (and, it seems, GSI employees) with > those officials threatening imprisonment if locals sell their finds. > I wasn't able to find any legal justification for this, but heard > similar stories surroun
Re: [meteorite-list] International Laws related to meteorites link - good info
Jason said: "As best I can tell, the existing arrangement is a domestic protocol for local officials to follow if they obtain a meteorite. However, recent meteorite falls in India have been commandeered by the government by local officials (and, it seems, GSI employees) with those officials threatening imprisonment if locals sell their finds. I wasn't able to find any legal justification for this, but heard similar stories surrounding both Katol and Sulagiri." Then said: "As one can see above, "I am directed to request that all Indian Meteorites may, in future, be transmitted to the Trustees of the Indian Museum in preference to sending them direct to England." " Followed by HIS OPINION "It would seem that the above letter directly refers to the exportation of meteorites from India as legal, or at least as legal as it might be to export a meteorite from England (legal), since the law (if it can be called that) was a British mandate." How can you say that after your first two comments? Anne Black has repeatedly stated Sulagiri and meteorites from India are ILLEGAL, same as Berduc and others. Dont side step this and confuse the followers with your opinions Jason... Thats almost as silly as trying to redirect this subject to me. ITS NOT ABOUT ME. Its not about you... its about the export laws that in your first comment above, CLEARLY shows that its not acceptable to the local law/governing bodies. Your second comment goes on to say that they are to be sent to England. NOT to be sent out of the country to the USA (YOU) or anyone else. The meteorites are illegal. Anne knows this, so does the IMCA board. They are just looking the other way when one of the "clique" does it. I would have liked the IMCA board to weigh in on this since it does go directly against the code of ethics, but as usual, they will likely remain silent rather then take action against over half the dealers who are members who are breaking the code of ethics. They board should not speak out against the "black market meteorites" when they allow members to conduct activities of the very nature they stand against. If I wanted, I could send the person who wrote the story the 7 IMCA members info who are selling illegal meteorites (such as berduc and others mentioned recently) with screen captures and everything from the websites they have it listed on... wonder how that would look to the readers who see the replies from Anne and other IMCA members - even though they already know of the activity! Shame on the IMCA for being so shameful in regards to the equal enforcement of its own rules. Jason has his blacklist, but as with the IMCA, he picks and chooses who to include. Farmer is not on there, Ward is not, Haag is not. Mike Miller is not (convicted in GA) and so are many others who have been arrested in conjunction with meteorite hunting or sales/export... If your going to toss dirt, make sure you spread it around where it belongs Jason dont just pick and choose. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites - Original Message - From: jason utas To: Meteorite-list Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] International Laws related to meteorites link - good info Hello Martin, All, I spent some time looking into the issue as well, after last week's...debacle. I was unable to find a record of any actual laws pertaining to the subject, but did find the article that Greg posted and put some additional work into the matter. As best I can tell, the existing arrangement is a domestic protocol for local officials to follow if they obtain a meteorite. However, recent meteorite falls in India have been commandeered by the government by local officials (and, it seems, GSI employees) with those officials threatening imprisonment if locals sell their finds. I wasn't able to find any legal justification for this, but heard similar stories surrounding both Katol and Sulagiri. The circulars/letters in question appear to have come from the ruling British Government as instructions for India's Government. http://books.google.com/books?id=jRUTYAAJ&pg=PA120&lpg=PA120&dq=Circular+No.+22-1777+1869+Thornton&source=bl&ots=xNJjVEoCO4&sig=BLjQnyh5DiIn3kY-lwunvpx5Bvo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=RZEIUISCJKfe2AWZm7DkBw&ved=0CEwQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Circular%20No.%2022-1777%201869%20Thornton&f=false http://books.google.com/books?id=jRUTYAAJ&pg=RA2-PA95&lpg=RA2-PA95&dq=Letter+2447+1869+may+india&source=bl&ots=xNJjVEpvP0&sig=wxRxybUsdq_cKITHbT4HfkYFXsk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=d5IIUKiVDsKg2gW72ZnGBw&ved=0CEgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Letter%202447%201869%20may%20india&f=false As one can see above, "I am directe
[meteorite-list] International Laws related to meteorites link - good info
Here is a link to some really good info concerning international laws related to meteorites and exportation of them. It specifically makes note of meteorites from India also. http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/2002M%26PSB..375S Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites - Original Message - From: Richard Montgomery To: bill kies Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit Time for me to excuse myself from any further comments on this thread, the neophyte that I am, with this last one on this topic: when I mentioned I echoed Mike's comments, I see it all from afar as a non-IMCA member, and have held onto my perspective that the meteorite world is as pristine as the falls and finds we enjoy. Sad to see the drama. -Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: "bill kies" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 9:07 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit Sorry Richard but this an endemic issue that will always be viewed with a turned head. What bothers me the most is the fact that it get's ignored in relation to who is involved. I don't really care who sells an illegal rock unless it's an imca member who is sworn to the uphold the truth.. like anyone really cares about the imca. The perpetrator rolls the dice. I do get disgusted when the people who preach about it all backslide into their own bs. Many have preached and done the contrary. Check the archives. I can accept opportunists and leaches as long as they're up front about it, as long as they don't get in my way > From: rickm...@earthlink.net > To: m...@meteoriteguy.com; star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com > Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 20:32:35 -0700 > CC: jasonu...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit > > A follow-up to clarify...I echo MF's perspective. > > -RM > > > > - Original Message - From: "Michael Farmer" > To: "Greg Catterton" > Cc: "jason utas" ; "Meteorite-list" > > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:54 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit > > > > Perhaps the job of the IMCA is not to police the world's laws, but to > > ensure authenticity, which is what it was set up to do. > > > > > > Michael Farmer > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On Jul 14, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Greg Catterton > > wrote: > > > >> 1. You know more then well I was told it was Mifflin. I FULLY REFUNDED > >> EVERYONE. Case closed. YOU can "shove off" I had several still not >> > >> return > >> material to me even though they were refunded..., including Mike > >> Cottingham, and John Helm. > >> > >> 2. I spent several thousand of my money to try to open the museum. It > >> failed. What can I say? I tried... Again, you can "shove off" > >> 3. I have returned EVERYTHING donated minus one person who I have >> talked > >> to about it. YOU did nothing yet run your mouth... again, "shove off... > >> > >> 4. WHAT I DID/DO DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT THAT YOU SELLING ILLEGALLY > >> EXPORTED MATERIAL AND KNOW AS MUCH!!! I didnt know about the mifflin, >> > >> you > >> know the laws about this, and choose to ignore it! > >> > >> your comments are pathetic. YOU are breaking international laws, and >> are > >> an IMCA member to boot... Where is the IMCA right now when you are > >> selling ILLEGALLY EXPORTED METEORITES? What are they going to do with >> > >> you > >> breaking numerous IMCA rules? ANYONE from the IMCA care to comment or > >> will they remain quite as that usually do when one of the good ol boys > >> break the rules? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Greg Catterton > >> www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com > >> On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites > >> On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites > >> > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: jason utas > >> To: Meteorite-list > >> Cc: > >> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 6:34 PM > >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit > >> > >> Hello Greg, > >> The gall you must have to pass on thousa
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thats the whole reason I spoke up on this issue. There are IMCA board members feeding Jason utas information to create his IMCA blacklist website, yet he is breaking the IMCA code of ethics and also international laws. The IMCA will do nothing about it as Jason id protected by the IMCA board. Its a sad situation indeed. When its a part of the clique they look the other way. I was good enough to run for the board and yet two months later was no longer an IMCA member because I rocked the boat. I am sorry, I WILL NOT keep quiet when I see issues. How about the fact Adam Hupe OWNS the IMCA now? Where is that public info unless you do extensive research and pay the money to get records? How about how the IMCA was NOT non profit for several years? yet certain members what to team up and build a blacklist website and then sell illegally exported meteorites? The IMCA is complete BS and so futile at this point it is not much more then a marketing gimmick. I will speak out on this because I am not afraid of them or what they will try to do to my business. they already have done what they can to make me look bad, so I am returning the favor. THE IMCA IS A WASTE OF A GREAT IDEA. It is a group with good intentions, but run by many that have no other interest then money and no love for meteorites. Anne Black does not care about meteorites. She is all about the money she can make off them. So are several others in charge of the group. Its not the IMCA, its the IMDA (D for dealers) at this point. Owned and controlled by dealers who do not collect and dont have the passion a collector does. Let the crickets chirp as they keep quiet and try to hide this. I beg the board, challenge what I am saying, please do... I will prove you wrong at every turn. I made mistakes in trusting people, but made it right and that led to a lot of personal issues in my life. My wanting to share meteorites with others. I had dreams that were not able to be made reality. I admit that, but it was only my passion for these space rocks that did it. Not some scheme or scam. Just dreams. Jason cant say that, Anne cant say that. most the IMCA board who remains quiet cant say that. I dare them to speak up... they wont because it will affect the money they make and the fancy cars they drive. I have nothing to lose, so I speak my mind. So be it... Block me from posting to protect the IMCA if you wish, but the truth is the truth. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites - Original Message - From: bill kies To: rickm...@earthlink.net Cc: "meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit Sorry Richard but this an endemic issue that will always be viewed with a turned head. What bothers me the most is the fact that it get's ignored in relation to who is involved. I don't really care who sells an illegal rock unless it's an imca member who is sworn to the uphold the truth.. like anyone really cares about the imca. The perpetrator rolls the dice. I do get disgusted when the people who preach about it all backslide into their own bs. Many have preached and done the contrary. Check the archives. I can accept opportunists and leaches as long as they're up front about it, as long as they don't get in my way > From: rickm...@earthlink.net > To: m...@meteoriteguy.com; star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com > Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 20:32:35 -0700 > CC: jasonu...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit > > A follow-up to clarify...I echo MF's perspective. > > -RM > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Michael Farmer" > To: "Greg Catterton" > Cc: "jason utas" ; "Meteorite-list" > > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:54 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit > > > > Perhaps the job of the IMCA is not to police the world's laws, but to > > ensure authenticity, which is what it was set up to do. > > > > > > Michael Farmer > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On Jul 14, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Greg Catterton > > wrote: > > > >> 1. You know more then well I was told it was Mifflin. I FULLY REFUNDED > >> EVERYONE. Case closed. YOU can "shove off" I had several still not return > >> material to me even though they were refunded..., including Mike > >> Cottingham, and John Helm. > >> > >> 2. I spent several thousand of my money to try to open the museum. It > >> failed. What can I say
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thats the whole reason I spoke up on this issue. There are IMCA board members feeding Jason utas information to create his IMCA blacklist website, yet he is breaking the IMCA code of ethics and also international laws. The IMCA will do nothing about it as Jason id protected by the IMCA board. Its a sad situation indeed. When its a part of the clique they look the other way. I was good enough to run for the board and yet two months later was no longer an IMCA member because I rocked the boat. I am sorry, I WILL NOT keep quiet when I see issues. How about the fact Adam Hupe OWNS the IMCA now? Where is that public info unless you do extensive research and pay the money to get records? How about how the IMCA was NOT non profit for several years? yet certain members what to team up and build a blacklist website and then sell illegally exported meteorites? The IMCA is complete BS and so futile at this point it is not much more then a marketing gimmick. I will speak out on this because I am not afraid of them or what they will try to do to my business. they already have done what they can to make me look bad, so I am returning the favor. THE IMCA IS A WASTE OF A GREAT IDEA. It is a group with good intentions, but run by many that have no other interest then money and no love for meteorites. Anne Black does not care about meteorites. She is all about the money she can make off them. So are several others in charge of the group. Its not the IMCA, its the IMDA (D for dealers) at this point. Owned and controlled by dealers who do not collect and dont have the passion a collector does. Let the crickets chirp as they keep quiet and try to hide this. I beg the board, challenge what I am saying, please do... I will prove you wrong at every turn. I made mistakes in trusting people, but made it right and that led to a lot of personal issues in my life. My wanting to share meteorites with others. I had dreams that were not able to be made reality. I admit that, but it was only my passion for these space rocks that did it. Not some scheme or scam. Just dreams. Jason cant say that, Anne cant say that. most the IMCA board who remains quiet cant say that. I dare them to speak up... they wont because it will affect the money they make and the fancy cars they drive. I have nothing to lose, so I speak my mind. So be it... Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites From: bill kies To: rickm...@earthlink.net Cc: "meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit Sorry Richard but this an endemic issue that will always be viewed with a turned head. What bothers me the most is the fact that it get's ignored in relation to who is involved. I don't really care who sells an illegal rock unless it's an imca member who is sworn to the uphold the truth.. like anyone really cares about the imca. The perpetrator rolls the dice. I do get disgusted when the people who preach about it all backslide into their own bs. Many have preached and done the contrary. Check the archives. I can accept opportunists and leaches as long as they're up front about it, as long as they don't get in my way > From: rickm...@earthlink.net > To: m...@meteoriteguy.com; star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com > Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 20:32:35 -0700 > CC: jasonu...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit > > A follow-up to clarify...I echo MF's perspective. > > -RM > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Michael Farmer" > To: "Greg Catterton" > Cc: "jason utas" ; "Meteorite-list" > > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:54 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit > > > > Perhaps the job of the IMCA is not to police the world's laws, but to > > ensure authenticity, which is what it was set up to do. > > > > > > Michael Farmer > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On Jul 14, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Greg Catterton > > wrote: > > > >> 1. You know more then well I was told it was Mifflin. I FULLY REFUNDED > >> EVERYONE. Case closed. YOU can "shove off" I had several still not return > >> material to me even though they were refunded..., including Mike > >> Cottingham, and John Helm. > >> > >> 2. I spent several thousand of my money to try to open the museum. It > >> failed. What can I say? I tried... Again, you can "shove off" > >> 3. I have returned EV
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So.. are you saying The IMCA only publicly denounce a persons actions if the person is NOT a memeber of the IMCA. Otherwise they hide the shameful actions of their members? YOU yourself publicly slammed me some time ago while I was a member and it got reactions from other members, some who offered to buy the entire board the Roberts rule of order manual which you guys turned down... its a shame you did, you may have learned something. I have learned from my mistakes, you obviously have not. Jason has openly admitted to selling this without proper export permits... please tell me about your email to me saying the reason I was kicked out was due to me importing buzzard coulee without a permit? I still have the emails and will share to ANYONE who wants to see... the Official reason I am not longer a member per your board was due to Buzzard Coulee import while the permits where still in process (which I ended up getting!) tell me I am wrong and I will post the email publicly! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites From: Anne Black To: jasonu...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit Hello Jason, Greg, and all, 2 very important facts to remember at all times: - IMCA Board Members are not required to sit in front of their computers 24/7, just in case someone has a question or a problem. We are allowed to have a life. - Anything the IMCA Board decides to say or do will be said or done in PRIVATE. And only in Private. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com Vice-President of IMCA www.IMCA.cc -Original Message- From: jason utas To: Meteorite-list Sent: Sat, Jul 14, 2012 5:13 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit Ditto Michael. Your personal beef with me and the IMCA for booting you is sad, but you screwed up in a large way, multiple times. Way to brush off the topic of unreturned museum donations yet again. Almahata Sitta was issued an export permit by the University of Khartoum. Whether that is legal in the eyes of the government there is open to debate. Either way, the pot's calling the kettle black. These meteorites were not stolen. As you say, case closed. Jason On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Greg Catterton wrote: > I am not attacking you by any means. Not like your blacklist website you have. I am simply pointing out the IMCA has FAILED to police its own members and allow them to sell illegal meteorites! I got my Almahatta Sitta from Anne Black, IMCA VP... Talk to her about the legal issues of it as she sold it to me. > My NWAs are not from Algeria FYI... Please lets name some names and make it clear that there is ALOT of illegal meteorites being sold by IMCA members and the group has failed to clean house for the violations of the code of ethics they swear by so much! > > Again, this is not about me, this is about YOU and other IMCA members breaking the IMCAs rules and ethics codes and the lack of enforcement the IMCA is showing. Lets be honest, you crucify me for a failed museum I tried to open while YOU ARE SELLING STOLEN METEORITES!!!!!! > > > > Greg Catterton > www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com > On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites > On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites > > > - Original Message - > From: jason utas > To: Meteorite-list > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 7:00 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit > > Greg, > Like your NWA's (maybe from Algeria), Camel Donga (no export permit) > and Almahata Sitta (possibly legal at best) on ebay -- to say nothing > of everyone's Sulagiri and most of the Canyon Diablo on the market > today? How about those Sikhote's you're offering? Exported before > Russia cracked down on exports, I take it? Please. > > I can name several people who donated to your museum who you still > haven't refunded. > > There's a difference between cheating people and offering a new > meteorite for sale, but I wouldn't expect you to see the difference. > > Keep attacking me, and me alone. We all know what's going on here. > > Jason > > On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Greg Catterton > wrote: >> 1. You know more then well I was told it was Mifflin. I FULLY REFUNDED EVERYONE. Case closed. YOU can "shove off" I had several still not return material to me even though they were refunded..., including Mike Cottingham, and John Helm. >> >> 2. I spent several thousand of my money to try to open the mu
Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit
I am not attacking you by any means. Not like your blacklist website you have. I am simply pointing out the IMCA has FAILED to police its own members and allow them to sell illegal meteorites! I got my Almahatta Sitta from Anne Black, IMCA VP... Talk to her about the legal issues of it as she sold it to me. My NWAs are not from Algeria FYI... Please lets name some names and make it clear that there is ALOT of illegal meteorites being sold by IMCA members and the group has failed to clean house for the violations of the code of ethics they swear by so much! Again, this is not about me, this is about YOU and other IMCA members breaking the IMCAs rules and ethics codes and the lack of enforcement the IMCA is showing. Lets be honest, you crucify me for a failed museum I tried to open while YOU ARE SELLING STOLEN METEORITES!! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites - Original Message - From: jason utas To: Meteorite-list Cc: Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit Greg, Like your NWA's (maybe from Algeria), Camel Donga (no export permit) and Almahata Sitta (possibly legal at best) on ebay -- to say nothing of everyone's Sulagiri and most of the Canyon Diablo on the market today? How about those Sikhote's you're offering? Exported before Russia cracked down on exports, I take it? Please. I can name several people who donated to your museum who you still haven't refunded. There's a difference between cheating people and offering a new meteorite for sale, but I wouldn't expect you to see the difference. Keep attacking me, and me alone. We all know what's going on here. Jason On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Greg Catterton wrote: > 1. You know more then well I was told it was Mifflin. I FULLY REFUNDED > EVERYONE. Case closed. YOU can "shove off" I had several still not return > material to me even though they were refunded..., including Mike Cottingham, > and John Helm. > > 2. I spent several thousand of my money to try to open the museum. It failed. > What can I say? I tried... Again, you can "shove off" > 3. I have returned EVERYTHING donated minus one person who I have talked to > about it. YOU did nothing yet run your mouth... again, "shove off... > > 4. WHAT I DID/DO DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT THAT YOU SELLING ILLEGALLY EXPORTED > MATERIAL AND KNOW AS MUCH!!! I didnt know about the mifflin, you know the > laws about this, and choose to ignore it! > > your comments are pathetic. YOU are breaking international laws, and are an > IMCA member to boot... Where is the IMCA right now when you are selling > ILLEGALLY EXPORTED METEORITES? What are they going to do with you breaking > numerous IMCA rules? ANYONE from the IMCA care to comment or will they remain > quite as that usually do when one of the good ol boys break the rules? > > > > > Greg Catterton > www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com > On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites > On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites > > > - Original Message - > From: jason utas > To: Meteorite-list > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 6:34 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit > > Hello Greg, > The gall you must have to pass on thousands of dollars of fake > material, take donations for a good cause, flake on the cause (but > keep many of the donations) and then rag on me for selling *accurately > described material*...just shove off. You've done more harm to this > community on your own than most others have been able to manage in the > past fifteen years. > Jason > > > > I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time. > > On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 9:23 AM, > wrote: >> >> Its Commonly known meteorites from India are illegal without export >> permits, but yet Suligiri and now Katol is offered by many IMCA members >> for sale. Guess the meteorite police, IMCA member and seller of this >> (Katol) Jason Utas needs to add himself to his blacklist for selling >> illegal meteorites! Question is, where is the IMCA to take action >> against jason for illegally exporting or receiving these for sale? >> >> Greg C, >> >> Original Message >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit >> From: Me Teor >> Date: Sat, July 14, 2012 11:39 am >> To: Shawn Alan >> Cc: Meteorite Central >> >> Dear Shawn >> You are absolutely correct. It is illegal to collect meteor
Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit
1. You know more then well I was told it was Mifflin. I FULLY REFUNDED EVERYONE. Case closed. YOU can "shove off" I had several still not return material to me even though they were refunded..., including Mike Cottingham, and John Helm. 2. I spent several thousand of my money to try to open the museum. It failed. What can I say? I tried... Again, you can "shove off" 3. I have returned EVERYTHING donated minus one person who I have talked to about it. YOU did nothing yet run your mouth... again, "shove off... 4. WHAT I DID/DO DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT THAT YOU SELLING ILLEGALLY EXPORTED MATERIAL AND KNOW AS MUCH!!! I didnt know about the mifflin, you know the laws about this, and choose to ignore it! your comments are pathetic. YOU are breaking international laws, and are an IMCA member to boot... Where is the IMCA right now when you are selling ILLEGALLY EXPORTED METEORITES? What are they going to do with you breaking numerous IMCA rules? ANYONE from the IMCA care to comment or will they remain quite as that usually do when one of the good ol boys break the rules? Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites - Original Message - From: jason utas To: Meteorite-list Cc: Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit Hello Greg, The gall you must have to pass on thousands of dollars of fake material, take donations for a good cause, flake on the cause (but keep many of the donations) and then rag on me for selling *accurately described material*...just shove off. You've done more harm to this community on your own than most others have been able to manage in the past fifteen years. Jason I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time. On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 9:23 AM, wrote: > > Its Commonly known meteorites from India are illegal without export > permits, but yet Suligiri and now Katol is offered by many IMCA members > for sale. Guess the meteorite police, IMCA member and seller of this > (Katol) Jason Utas needs to add himself to his blacklist for selling > illegal meteorites! Question is, where is the IMCA to take action > against jason for illegally exporting or receiving these for sale? > > Greg C, > > Original Message > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit > From: Me Teor > Date: Sat, July 14, 2012 11:39 am > To: Shawn Alan > Cc: Meteorite Central > > Dear Shawn > You are absolutely correct. It is illegal to collect meteorites in > India. And meteorites are government property. The authority for this is > the Geological Survey of India. And as far as I know, they never trade > or deal with any individuals or private institutions. There cannot be > any export papers as export is banned. > > Although I wonder how having a export paper or certificate helps ? > > If a specimen is up for sale, it is definitely out of the country and > has been exported. > > By the way does anyone have a analysis report on this new find ? > > M.E. > > On 14-Jul-2012, at 3:32 AM, Shawn Alan wrote: > >> Hello Listers, >> >>> From my understanding, meteorites that fell or are found after 1885 in >>> India would be forwarded to the Government Geological Museum which would >>> take over possession of the meteorite? If so, how is Katol exempt from >>> this, or was Katol sold by the Museum? For those who have gotten some of >>> this meteorite fall, will their meteorites come with export papers like how >>> Canadian falls are handled? >> >> Shawn Alan >> IMCA 1633 >> eBay store >> http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? >> http://www.meteoritefalls.com/ >> __ >> >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.mete
Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit
Commonly known meteorites from India are illegal without export permits, but yet Suligiri and now Katol is offered by many IMCA members. Guess the meteorite police, IMCA member and seller of this Jason Utas needs to add himself to his blacklist for selling illegal meteorites! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites - Original Message - From: Me Teor To: Shawn Alan Cc: Meteorite Central Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit Dear Shawn You are absolutely correct. It is illegal to collect meteorites in India. And meteorites are government property. The authority for this is the Geological Survey of India. And as far as I know, they never trade or deal with any individuals or private institutions. There cannot be any export papers as export is banned. Although I wonder how having a export paper or certificate helps ? If a specimen is up for sale, it is definitely out of the country and has been exported. By the way does anyone have a analysis report on this new find ? M.E. On 14-Jul-2012, at 3:32 AM, Shawn Alan wrote: > Hello Listers, > >> From my understanding, meteorites that fell or are found after 1885 in India >> would be forwarded to the Government Geological Museum which would take over >> possession of the meteorite? If so, how is Katol exempt from this, or was >> Katol sold by the Museum? For those who have gotten some of this meteorite >> fall, will their meteorites come with export papers like how Canadian falls >> are handled? > > Shawn Alan > IMCA 1633 > eBay store > http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? > http://www.meteoritefalls.com/ > __ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - 20% off Meteorites for sale - historic, rare and museum pieces!
Hi to all, I hope everyone is doing well. I have a 20% off sale going on ebay right now to raise some cash. Here are the listings: http://stores.ebay.com/Wandering-Star-Meteorites?_trksid=p4340.l2563 I will take an additional 10% off for sales OFF EBAY. Feel free to make offers, worst I can say is no. There is some really rare and historic samples available that you simply dont see often. BULK DEAL: Lunar displays, buy 10 for $275, buy 20 for $500 Martian displays, buy 10 for $275 or 20 for $500 Both of these are the real deal, not the fake crap that others have been selling recently. I made these myself from larger pieces to offer a nice presentation at an affordable price. I left a few orders in WV, They will mail Saturday when I return. Thanks for looking and again, I hope everyone has a great day. Will consider trades if the material offered can be resold quickly. Feel free to email or call for more info. Thanks, Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale. Siena, L'Aigle, 1cm+ CAI orgueil, Tagish Lake etc
Hi to all. Still needing to raise cash to help me and my kids recover from our family emergency... I have some really rare meteorites for sale some of which you just dont find. Make reasonable offers offlist, by phone or email. Siena L'Aigle Claxton NWA 6717 with CAI over 1cm in size (super rare and main mass) The last CAI like this was quickly picked up for research. You just dont find them this large. NWA 7023 Eucrite fusion crusted individual -MUSEUM QUALITY! Orguiel (ultra rare) Tagish Lake (ultra rare) Karoonda (ultra rare) Chergach individuals and slices Ash Creek slice Travis County a with monnig collection label Bassikounou individuals and end cuts NWA 4734 (lunar) NWA 4880 (Martian) NWA 5799 (main mass) NWA 6870 CV3 NWA 6871 (very unusual and highly shocked ureilite that is already making news and being published in papers!) http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metsoc2012/pdf/5240.pdf NWA 6291 (Angrite) translucent slice!!! ALH 76009 fragment with outstanding documentation Sikhote-Alin individuals Whitecourt Iron meteorite Whetstone Mountains slices and limited edition monograph Carancas fragments recovered by Bob Haag Buzzard Coulee individuals and fragments Bensour individuals and fragments Almahatta Sitta (unique Ureilite) Bilanga Tatahouine An unusual Chondrite we found copper in! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390431027131&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT I also have many listed on ebay, make offers for off ebay sales for better deals. I will sell it ALL for an amazing deal that would surely bring in a nice profit for someone... http://www.ebay.com/sch/wanderingstarmeteorites/m.html?item=390311821966&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2562 Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites ____ From: Greg Catterton To: "meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:16 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale. Siena, L'Aigle, Murchison, Moss, 1cm+ CAI etc Hi to all. Still needing to raise cash to help me and my kids recover from our family emergency... I have some really rare meteorites for sale some of which you just dont find. Make reasonable offers offlist, by phone or email. Siena L'Aigle Moss Murchison NWA 6717 with CAI over 1cm in size (super rare and main mass) NWA 7023 Eucrite fusion crusted individual Orguiel (ultra rare) Tagish Lake (ultra rare) Karoonda (ultra rare) Chergach individuals Ash Creek 12g individual with insitu photo and slices Travis County a with monnig collection label Bassikounou Ensisheim (ultra rare) NWA 4734 (lunar) NWA 4880 (Martian) NWA 5799 (main mass) NWA 6870 CV3 NWA 6871 (very unusual and highly shocked ureilite) NWA 6291 (Angrite) translucent slice!!! ALH 76009 fragment with outstanding documentation Sikhote-Alin individuals Whitecourt Iron meteorite Whetstone Mountains slices and limited edition monograph Carancas fragments recovered by Bob Haag Buzzard Coulee individuals and fragments Bensour individuals and fragments Almahatta Sitta (unique Ureilite) Bilanga Tatahouine I also have many listed on ebay, make offers for off ebay sales for better deals. http://www.ebay.com/sch/wanderingstarmeteorites/m.html?item=390311821966&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2562 Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [Meteorites] http://phys.org/news184402061.html
NWA 6871 had a rather large diamond (for a meteorite) extracted from it after causing a lot of trouble during the cutting process. It was without a doubt the hardest meteorite I or several others have come across. Dr. David Vann did the cutting and Im sure he could go into more details of the process which was not very easy. It tore through blades left and right. I have not seen much online about diamonds found in meteorites that were able to be held in your hand, much less seen with the naked eye like the one we pulled out of it. Its going to be studied later in July which should hopefully provide some more details about it and perhaps help science to better understand the process of formation of it and maybe a few other things will come from the research. Here are a few photos for everyone to enjoy of this exciting find - I am calling it "The Gump Diamond" because meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what your gonna get. Showing scale and size http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5332-4.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5281-3.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00608-3.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00607-2.jpg Close ups http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00610-3.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00606-3.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00609-3.jpg Here is more detailed information on NWA 6871 that is already available. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=53784 Physical characteristics: A single extremely hard, brown stone weighing 119 g and almost impossible to cut. Small adamantine crystals of diamond were extracted from the stone by Mr. Catterton. Petrography: Coarse-grained aggregate of olivine and orthopyroxene with finer grained interstitial regions containing opaque material, calcite and limonite. Some thin calcite veinlets cross-cut the specimen. Both olivine and pyroxene are completely recrystallized to aggregates of myriad tiny, polygonal subgrains. Geochemistry: Olivine cores Fa19.4-20.0 (CaO=0.3 wt.%, Cr2O3=0.7 wt.%), rims Fa10.5; orthopyroxene Fs12.6-13.7Wo3.7-3.4. Classification: Achondrite (ureilite). The very high shock experienced by this specimen (causing complete recrystallization of silicates and evidently generation of significant amounts of microdiamond) is unusual among ureilites. Specimens: A total of 20 g of material is on deposit at App and one polished thin section is at UWS. Mr. G. Catterton holds the main mass. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites From: "pshu...@messengersfromthecosmos.com" To: The List Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [Meteorites] http://phys.org/news184402061.html Hello list, The implications of these findings are, to say the least, staggering. has this been confirmed in other Ureilite meteorites? Such as Novo Urie, or others? For years, diamonds were the standard of hardness, and now that's all out the window Pete > Original Message > Subject: [Meteorites] http://phys.org/news184402061.html > From: "Greg Catterton" > Date: Sat, June 30, 2012 8:04 pm > To: Meteorites > > > Greg Catterton posted in Meteorites > > http://www.facebook.com/l/VAQE1XtNKAQF5o1qdQPcdmtuYrReA8cCVDIp8QrxfXIJGRw/phys.org/news184402061.html > > > > Meteorite yields carbon crystals harder than diamond > (PhysOrg.com) -- Two new types of ultra-hard carbon crystals have been > found by researchers investigating the ureilite class Haverö > meteorite that crashed to Earth in Finland in 1971. Ureilite > meteorites are carbon-rich and known to contain graphite and diamonds. > > > To comment on this post, reply to this email or visit: > > > http://www.facebook.com/n/?groups%2Fspacerocks%2Fpermalink%2F473326756027991%2F&mid=6599f59G5af34de4d0fcG5025a04G96&bcode=TuEdMNbR_1.1341104684.AaSCTg5qjmSqzHui&n_m=pshugar%40messengersfromthecosmos.com > > === > Reply to this email to add a comment. Change your notification settings: > http://www.facebook.com/n/?groups%2Fspacerocks%2F&view=notifications&mid=6599f59G5af34de4d0fcG5025a04G96&bcode=TuEdMNbR_1.1341104684.AaSCTg5qjmSqzHui&n_m=pshugar%40messengersfromthecosmos.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://
[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale. Siena, L'Aigle, Murchison, Moss, 1cm+ CAI etc
Hi to all. Still needing to raise cash to help me and my kids recover from our family emergency... I have some really rare meteorites for sale some of which you just dont find. Make reasonable offers offlist, by phone or email. Siena L'Aigle Moss Murchison NWA 6717 with CAI over 1cm in size (super rare and main mass) NWA 7023 Eucrite fusion crusted individual Orguiel (ultra rare) Tagish Lake (ultra rare) Karoonda (ultra rare) Chergach individuals Ash Creek 12g individual with insitu photo and slices Travis County a with monnig collection label Bassikounou Ensisheim (ultra rare) NWA 4734 (lunar) NWA 4880 (Martian) NWA 5799 (main mass) NWA 6870 CV3 NWA 6871 (very unusual and highly shocked ureilite) NWA 6291 (Angrite) translucent slice!!! ALH 76009 fragment with outstanding documentation Sikhote-Alin individuals Whitecourt Iron meteorite Whetstone Mountains slices and limited edition monograph Carancas fragments recovered by Bob Haag Buzzard Coulee individuals and fragments Bensour individuals and fragments Almahatta Sitta (unique Ureilite) Bilanga Tatahouine I also have many listed on ebay, make offers for off ebay sales for better deals. http://www.ebay.com/sch/wanderingstarmeteorites/m.html?item=390311821966&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2562 Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Buy $1100 in meteorites, get $200 in meteorites FREE! your choice!
Need roughly $1100 to get a car for me and my kids. If you buy $1100 in meteorites, I will give you $200 in meteorites for FREE. YOUR CHOICE! Buy $2200 and get $400 FREE. Cant beat this deal with a meteorite stick! OFF EBAY ONLY PLEASE, I need to save as much as possible and ebay fees are pretty high. http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites From: michael cottingham To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 8:29 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: SUTTER'S MILL COLLECTION Hello, Was saving this collection to start my new Meteorite Collection withbut by now everyone knows why I would be selling it http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200779557801 Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Yyou dont want to miss these meteorites for sale! Historic and more!
Thanks for all the emails and an extra thanks to someone special out there... I am listing on ebay for the ease of offering pictures here and a wider selling audience. Here is the link: http://www.ebay.com/sch/wanderingstarmeteorites/m.html?hash=item5adfd1c404&item=390302123012&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2562 Contact me by email or phone for offers for sale off ebay. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites ____ From: Greg Catterton To: "meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 1:39 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - Yyou dont want to miss these meteorites for sale! Historic and more! Hi, I have a huge sale going right now. Here is what it includes: Travis County (a) 26.1 gram slice from Monnig collection with provenance and label. Seina fusion crusted fragment with museum provenance and TWO labels. History and provenance like this are not cheap... Fukang 32g pallasite slice - outstanding translucent slice will make you drool Sleeper Camp (very rare) s1.28g slice with full provenance from two IMCA members Whitecourt Iron meteorite with GPS, display, pin, photos and export permit NWA 6173 L4 meteorite 35.5g complete slice - a chondrule fantasy! Carancas fragments (up to 30g lots) L'agile slices Allende individuals and slices Bassikounou individuals and end cuts Camel Donga Bensour individuals Campo del cielo Chergach individuals and slices Sikhote-Alin individuals Moss Murray Murchison Karoonda Orguiel (with ASU provenance) Ivuna Tagish Lake Canyon Diablo Buzzard Coulee individuals Whetstone Mountain slices NWA 6870 CV3 NWA 6871 Ure (very unusual) NWA 5400 NWA 5363 NWA 6077 NWA 5511 NWA 6550 I have a lot more available I am uploading to facebook today. Selling it all to help with me and my kids get back on our feet... Message me if interested and for pics/prices. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Yyou dont want to miss these meteorites for sale! Historic and more!
Hi, I have a huge sale going right now. Here is what it includes: Travis County (a) 26.1 gram slice from Monnig collection with provenance and label. Seina fusion crusted fragment with museum provenance and TWO labels. History and provenance like this are not cheap... Fukang 32g pallasite slice - outstanding translucent slice will make you drool Sleeper Camp (very rare) s1.28g slice with full provenance from two IMCA members Whitecourt Iron meteorite with GPS, display, pin, photos and export permit NWA 6173 L4 meteorite 35.5g complete slice - a chondrule fantasy! Carancas fragments (up to 30g lots) L'agile slices Allende individuals and slices Bassikounou individuals and end cuts Camel Donga Bensour individuals Campo del cielo Chergach individuals and slices Sikhote-Alin individuals Moss Murray Murchison Karoonda Orguiel (with ASU provenance) Ivuna Tagish Lake Canyon Diablo Buzzard Coulee individuals Whetstone Mountain slices NWA 6870 CV3 NWA 6871 Ure (very unusual) NWA 5400 NWA 5363 NWA 6077 NWA 5511 NWA 6550 I have a lot more available I am uploading to facebook today. Selling it all to help with me and my kids get back on our feet... Message me if interested and for pics/prices. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale asap, mifflin, fukang, LARGE CAI
Sorry for another ad, but I need a car for me and my 2 kids asap... Will take $4000 for EVERYTHING LISTED BELOW... Fukang Pallasite slice for sale - simply awesome. Sad to let go, but just have to sell... make offers. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5365.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5368.jpg 181 gram Bassikounou meteorite, simply awesome end cut for sale, make best offer. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Bassikounou181gb.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Bassikounou181ga.jpg NWA 7023 Eucrite complete individual, fusion crusted museum quality piece FOR SALE. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF3235.jpg Mifflin 10g end cut http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/297495_252321324787964_641516_n.jpg NWA 6717 main mass with really large CAI http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6717Mainmass.jpg NWA 6870 CV3 30g end cut with CAIs - stunning meteorite!!! FOR SALE http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5308.jpg Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites From: Greg Catterton To: Meteorite Central Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2012 1:16 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale, got to go asap, mifflin - fukang, Lunar and more Bad times, bad need due to family emergency. Many meteorites for sale, please make reasobale offers Fukang Pallasite slice for sale - simply awesome. Sad to let go, but just have to sell... make offers. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5365.jpghttp://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5368.jpg 181 gram Bassikounou meteorite, simply awesome end cut for sale, make best offer. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Bassikounou181gb.jpghttp://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Bassikounou181ga.jpg NWA 7023 Eucrite complete individual, fusion crusted museum quality piece FOR SALE. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF3235.jpg Mifflin 10g end cut http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/297495_252321324787964_641516_n.jpg NWA 6717 main mass with really large CAI http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6717Mainmass.jpg NWA 6870 CV3 30g end cut with CAIs - stunning meteorite!!! FOR SALE http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5308.jpg Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale, got to go asap, mifflin - fukang, Lunar and more
Bad times, bad need due to family emergency. Many meteorites for sale, please make reasobale offers Fukang Pallasite slice for sale - simply awesome. Sad to let go, but just have to sell... make offers. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5365.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5368.jpg 181 gram Bassikounou meteorite, simply awesome end cut for sale, make best offer. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Bassikounou181gb.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Bassikounou181ga.jpg NWA 7023 Eucrite complete individual, fusion crusted museum quality piece FOR SALE. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF3235.jpg Mifflin 10g end cut http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/297495_252321324787964_641516_n.jpg NWA 6717 main mass with really large CAI http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6717Mainmass.jpg NWA 6870 CV3 30g end cut with CAIs - stunning meteorite!!! FOR SALE http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5308.jpg Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites - Original Message - From: Greg Catterton To: Meteorite Central Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2012 1:16 PM Subject: AD - Meteorites for sale, got to go asap, mifflin - fukang, Lunar and more Bad times, bad need due to family emergency. Many meteorites for sale, please make reasobale offers Fukang Pallasite slice for sale - simply awesome. Sad to let go, but just have to sell... make offers. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5365.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5368.jpg 181 gram Bassikounou meteorite, simply awesome end cut for sale, make best offer. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Bassikounou181gb.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Bassikounou181ga.jpg NWA 7023 Eucrite complete individual, fusion crusted museum quality piece FOR SALE. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF3235.jpg Mifflin 10g end cut http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/297495_252321324787964_641516_n.jpg NWA 6717 main mass with really large CAI http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6717Mainmass.jpg NWA 6870 CV3 30g end cut with CAIs - stunning meteorite!!! FOR SALE http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5308.jpg Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites - Original Message - From: Shawn Alan To: Meteorite Central Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2012 12:27 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: ORNANS, Murray, Wold Cottage, Seres, Sylacauga, LA002 Mars meteorite & more ending on eBay soon. Hello Listers, Thank you for taking a look at my post of meteorites I have for sale on eBay. Here is your chance to own some rare and historic meteorites. Please take a look and if you have any questions or OFFERS please email me and I’ll get back with you. Also if you are looking for bigger/smaller meteorites, let me know too. A meteorite is a meteorite, but a meteorite with history and a legacy, will always add aura to your meteorite collection and value. eBay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? Featured Meteorites MURRAY Ultra Rare CM2 Meteorite 70 Amino Acids Polyols SUGARS - ASU Collection http://www.ebay.com/itm/261041092568?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 ORNANS- Type specimen CO meteorite- SUPER RARE fall from France 1868. http://www.ebay.com/itm/251080669101?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 WOLD COTTAGE rare meteorite 1795-1st classified from UK! From British Museum http://www.ebay.com/itm/261041090358?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 SUTTER’S MILL 6mg Meteorite-FUSION CRUST USA CM meteorite class April 22, 2012 http://www.ebay.com/itm/261041096240?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 SERES meteorite 1818 1st and only meteorite from Greece SUPER RARE! http://www.ebay.com/itm/251080664933?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 LOS ANGELES 002 Martian/Mars meteorite 2nd USA Mars find! http://www.ebay.com/itm/251080672374?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 SUTTER’S MILL Meteorite- CA USA CM meteorite class April 22, 2012 http://www.ebay.com/itm/261040330644?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 KRASNOJARSK (Pallas Iron) Pallasite meteorite 1749 http://www.ebay.com/itm/251078979493?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 SYLACAUGA meteorite Mrs Hodge meteorite strike http://www.ebay.com/itm/261032254123?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 Thank you Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay Store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl
[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale, got to go asap, mifflin - fukang, Lunar and more
Bad times, bad need due to family emergency. Many meteorites for sale, please make reasobale offers Fukang Pallasite slice for sale - simply awesome. Sad to let go, but just have to sell... make offers. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5365.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5368.jpg 181 gram Bassikounou meteorite, simply awesome end cut for sale, make best offer. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Bassikounou181gb.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Bassikounou181ga.jpg NWA 7023 Eucrite complete individual, fusion crusted museum quality piece FOR SALE. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF3235.jpg Mifflin 10g end cut http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/297495_252321324787964_641516_n.jpg NWA 6717 main mass with really large CAI http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6717Mainmass.jpg NWA 6870 CV3 30g end cut with CAIs - stunning meteorite!!! FOR SALE http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5308.jpg Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites - Original Message - From: Shawn Alan To: Meteorite Central Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2012 12:27 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: ORNANS, Murray, Wold Cottage, Seres, Sylacauga, LA002 Mars meteorite & more ending on eBay soon. Hello Listers, Thank you for taking a look at my post of meteorites I have for sale on eBay. Here is your chance to own some rare and historic meteorites. Please take a look and if you have any questions or OFFERS please email me and I’ll get back with you. Also if you are looking for bigger/smaller meteorites, let me know too. A meteorite is a meteorite, but a meteorite with history and a legacy, will always add aura to your meteorite collection and value. eBay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? Featured Meteorites MURRAY Ultra Rare CM2 Meteorite 70 Amino Acids Polyols SUGARS - ASU Collection http://www.ebay.com/itm/261041092568?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 ORNANS- Type specimen CO meteorite- SUPER RARE fall from France 1868. http://www.ebay.com/itm/251080669101?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 WOLD COTTAGE rare meteorite 1795-1st classified from UK! From British Museum http://www.ebay.com/itm/261041090358?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 SUTTER’S MILL 6mg Meteorite-FUSION CRUST USA CM meteorite class April 22, 2012 http://www.ebay.com/itm/261041096240?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 SERES meteorite 1818 1st and only meteorite from Greece SUPER RARE! http://www.ebay.com/itm/251080664933?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 LOS ANGELES 002 Martian/Mars meteorite 2nd USA Mars find! http://www.ebay.com/itm/251080672374?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 SUTTER’S MILL Meteorite- CA USA CM meteorite class April 22, 2012 http://www.ebay.com/itm/261040330644?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 KRASNOJARSK (Pallas Iron) Pallasite meteorite 1749 http://www.ebay.com/itm/251078979493?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 SYLACAUGA meteorite Mrs Hodge meteorite strike http://www.ebay.com/itm/261032254123?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 Thank you Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay Store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? http://www.meteoritefalls.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - CV3 meteorite main mass with HUGE 1cm plus CAI for sale/trade
Hi to all, hope everyone is doing well. I have a large complete stone with a CAI that is over 1cm. These are pretty rare of this size. In addition, its also the main mass of NWA 6717. The last CAI of this size was offered for science and quickly picked up by researchers, this one is being made available to all. Open for offers for sale/trade. Pics on request. Serious offers only. Thanks for looking Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale - NEW very unusual ureilite
"The very high shock experienced by this specimen (causing complete recrystallization of silicates and evidently generation of significant amounts of microdiamond) is unusual among ureilites." Small adamantine crystals of diamond were extracted from the stone ... coarse-grained aggregate of olivine and orthopyroxene with finer grained interstitial regions containing opaque material, calcite and limonite. Some thin calcite veinlets cross-cut the specimen. Both olivine and pyroxene are completely recrystallized to aggregates of myriad tiny, polygonal subgrains. NWA 6871... http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Hi to all, I am back
Hi to all. Been a long time since I posted. I am back. Hope everyone is well, will be posting more soon. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD unusual new diamon rich ureilite and more meteorites for sale - great buys!
Hi to all, I hope everyone is doing well. First off, I would like to offer an exceptional deal on a very unusual and highly shocked new ureilite. There was only one stone that weighed 119g. This is a very diamond rich ureilite that has been classified as NWA 6871. After cutting loss and deposit, there is only a limited amount of samples available. Due to the high diamond content, cutting costs were very high. This is the stone we found this in...http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00606.jpg Price on these is a very reasonable $23.00 per gram plus postage. Below are the samples available. I also have some micros and sub gram pieces, please contact me for pics on those. 18.11 gram complete slice/slabhttp://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA68711811ga.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA68711811gb.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA68711811gc.jpg 15.1 gram complete slice/slab http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA68711520ga.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA68711520gb.jpg 8.51 gram complete slice http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6871851ga.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6871851gb.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6871851gc.jpg 7.75 gramcomplete slicehttp://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6871775ga.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6871775gc.jpg 4.57 gram part slice http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6871457ga.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6871457gc.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6871457gb.jpg 3.33 gram part slice http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6871333ga.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6871333gc.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6871333gb.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6871333gd.jpg I also have an awesome 55.6 gram Whitecourt iron meteorite for sale. It comes with import documentation, GPS location of find and photos. Price on this piece is a very reasonable $400.00 plus postage. Find a better price then that!!! http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5637.jpg Tatahouine! The green meteorite! How about 100 grams that is made up of roughly 70 stones. Pieces are up to 2.5g each. 100g for only $900.00 http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5704.jpg Thin sections! Here is 4 thin sections, 3 are uncovered. Included in NWA 4734 (lunar) Tatahouine (Diogenite) Camel Donga (Eucrite) and NWA 5799 (covered) You can own all 4 for only $150.00 http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5001-3.jpg NWA 6870 CV3 MAIN MASS - 366 grams - Make offers! http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5002-3.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5004-5.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5003-1.jpg Carancas 30 gram lot for only $600.00! Thats $20 per gram for a witnessed fall that created a crater! You can also check out my ebay listings http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites Thanks for looking! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Copper content in meteorites, Image of copper in a meteorite
Here is a picture of a meteorite we found copper in. With the recent discussion of gold and stuff in meteorites, I thought this would be of interest. Hope everyone is doing well, Enjoy the pic http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Cu_4copy-1.jpg Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - HUGE meteorite sale, worth a look with a surprise
Hi to all, I am having a huge sale right now. There is a lot of awesome material to choose from, some at the lowest prices you will find. Here is some of what is for sale: SALE!!! AWESOME METEORITE SALE - MUST GO!!! NWA 6658 very rare and interesting Mesosiderite - NEW classification $5 per gram NWA 6870 very nice CV3 with CAIs - NEW classification as low as $3 per gram NWA 6871 VERY UNIQUE AND UNUSUAL DIAMOND RICH Ureilite - NEW classification $30 per gram - this is a new and unusual ureilite that I have kinda tossed in here... low TKW of just 119g single stone is very exciting stuff, it yielded a diamond that is .025mg - for those that dont know, thats HUGE for a diamond from a meteorite! See the diamond from space! here: http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00606.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00608.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5332-1.jpg A complete slice of NWA 6871 http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5288.jpg Carancas - $20 per gram with a 3g minimum Tatahouine - $10 per gram with a 10g minimum Sikhote Alin individuals - oriented and hand picked pieces $2.25 per gram with 30g minimum Camel Donga - $12 per gram Allende $15 per gram Whitecourt Iron $8 per gram Thuathe $9.00 per gram Lunar Meteorite displays $30.00 each Chergach - $7.00 per gram Bassikounou - $5.00 per gram Stuarts-KidneyStone - Priceless... NWA 1465 - Anomalous CV3 that is one of only 4 known - $10 per gram NWA 6291 - Angrite micros - $14 each Camel Donga Thin Section - $80.00 uncovered NWA 4734 LUNAR thin section $100.00 uncovered Tatahouine Thin Section $70.00 uncovered Thanks for looking, pics and more info on request. Been hunting the recent fall in WV, no luck. Very tough area to search... and black bears abundant. You can find some material and other items also listed on ebay: http://stores.ebay.com/Wandering-Star-Meteorites?_trksid=p4340.l2563 Hope everyone is well, Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites - Original Message - From: Greg Catterton To: "meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:43 AM Subject: AD - HUGE meteorite sale, worth a look with a surprise Hi to all, I am having a huge sale right now. There is a lot of awesome material to choose from, some at the lowest prices you will find. Here is some of what is for sale: SALE!!! AWESOME METEORITE SALE - MUST GO!!! NWA 6658 very rare and interesting Mesosiderite - NEW classification $5 per gram NWA 6870 very nice CV3 with CAIs - NEW classification as low as $3 per gram NWA 6871 VERY UNIQUE AND UNUSUAL DIAMOND RICH Ureilite - NEW classification $30 per gram - this is a new and unusual ureilite that I have kinda tossed in here... low TKW of just 119g single stone is very exciting stuff, it yielded a diamond that is .025mg - for those that dont know, thats HUGE for a diamond from a meteorite! See the diamond from space! here: http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00606.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00608.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5332-1.jpg A complete slice of NWA 6871 http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5288.jpg Carancas - $20 per gram with a 3g minimum Tatahouine - $10 per gram with a 10g minimum Sikhote Alin individuals - oriented and hand picked pieces $2.25 per gram with 30g minimum Camel Donga - $12 per gram Allende $15 per gram Whitecourt Iron $8 per gram Thuathe $9.00 per gram Lunar Meteorite displays $30.00 each Chergach - $7.00 per gram Bassikounou - $5.00 per gram Stuarts-KidneyStone - Priceless... NWA 1465 - Anomalous CV3 that is one of only 4 known - $10 per gram NWA 6291 - Angrite micros - $14 each Camel Donga Thin Section - $80.00 uncovered NWA 4734 LUNAR thin section $100.00 uncovered Tatahouine Thin Section $70.00 uncovered Thanks for looking, pics and more info on request. Been hunting the recent fall in WV, no luck. Very tough area to search... and black bears abundant. You can find some material and other items also listed on ebay: http://stores.ebay.com/Wandering-Star-Meteorites?_trksid=p4340.l2563 Hope everyone is well, Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Diamonds and meteorites - NWA 6871 and its "Gump Diamond"
Here are some much higher quality images that were taken at App State today of the diamond found in NWA 6871. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00606.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00608.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSC00610.jpg I think I may have sent the last email as rich text, here is a repeat of the previous one... I have found a rather large diamond inside the newly classified NWA 6871 ureilite meteorite (provsional) While it may be small for a diamond, I have not seen any "holdable" diamonds from meteorites or read about them, as this one is. Its only about the size of the ball in a ball point pen and weighs roughly .025g but is a stunning sight and was found in a slice of a very shocked and unusual ureilite. I though some of you may like to see it. I am calling it the "Gump Diamond" as it is the shinning example that "meteorites are like a box of chocolates, you never know what your gonna get" Close up of diamond http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5281.jpg Diamond with scale cube http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5332-1.jpg More to come on this awesome find soon. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites ________ From: Greg Catterton To: Greg Catterton ; Michael Gilmer ; Sterling K. Webb Cc: "meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:27 AM Subject: Diamonds and meteorites - NWA 6871 and its "Gump Diamond" Hi to all, hope everyone is doing well. I have some very neat news to share with you all... I have found a rather large diamond inside the newly classified NWA 6871 ureilite meteorite (provsional) While it may be small for a diamond, I have not seen and "holdable" meteorites or read about them, as this one is. Its only about the size of the ball in a ball point pen and weighs roughly .025g but is a stunning sight and was found in a slice of a very shocked and unusual ureilite. I though some of you may like to see it. I am calling it the "Gump Diamond" as it is the shinning example that "meteorites are like a box of chocolates, you never know what your gonna get" Close up of diamond http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5281.jpg Diamond with scale cube http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5332-1.jpg More to come on this awesome find soon. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites From: Greg Catterton To: Michael Gilmer ; Sterling K. Webb Cc: "meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2011 2:05 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Gold and Iridium content of meteorites(especiallyirons) I have not seen visible gold in meteorites but I have seen them with copper in them that is visible and more recently, something more exciting. More to come on this soon. Hope everyone is doing good! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites From: Michael Gilmer To: Sterling K. Webb Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Gold and Iridium content of meteorites(especiallyirons) Hi Gang, I was just curious about exactly how much gold is bound up inside a meteorite with a higher than average content, like the one in this example. Personally, I share the same sentiment as most of you - it would be heresy to destroy a meteorite to extract something that is available here on Earth, even if it wasn't cost-prohibitive. At 41 years old, I have made it this far in life with terrible math skills, so this old dog isn't going to take any refresher courses. I was hoping one of the more skilled (and intelligent) members would act as a human calculator and cipher this question for me. :) So in this particular case, the 32kg iron meteorite contains ~1.5 troy ounces of gold, with a current market value of ~$2550. What sparked my curiosity was the apparently high gold content that was measured in milligrams and not the usual micrograms one expects to see. One last question, perhaps rhetorical in a sense, has anyone ever seen gold in a meteorite? I mean, has there ever been a visible "bleb" or gold inclusion in a meteorite? Or is all of the gold bound up on a molecular level and invisible to the naked eye and 10x loupe? I guess there won't be a gold rush to the asteroid belt Best regards, MikeG -- --
Re: [meteorite-list] Gold and Iridium content of meteorites(especiallyirons)
I have not seen visible gold in meteorites but I have seen them with copper in them that is visible and more recently, something more exciting. More to come on this soon. Hope everyone is doing good! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites From: Michael Gilmer To: Sterling K. Webb Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Gold and Iridium content of meteorites(especiallyirons) Hi Gang, I was just curious about exactly how much gold is bound up inside a meteorite with a higher than average content, like the one in this example. Personally, I share the same sentiment as most of you - it would be heresy to destroy a meteorite to extract something that is available here on Earth, even if it wasn't cost-prohibitive. At 41 years old, I have made it this far in life with terrible math skills, so this old dog isn't going to take any refresher courses. I was hoping one of the more skilled (and intelligent) members would act as a human calculator and cipher this question for me. :) So in this particular case, the 32kg iron meteorite contains ~1.5 troy ounces of gold, with a current market value of ~$2550. What sparked my curiosity was the apparently high gold content that was measured in milligrams and not the usual micrograms one expects to see. One last question, perhaps rhetorical in a sense, has anyone ever seen gold in a meteorite? I mean, has there ever been a visible "bleb" or gold inclusion in a meteorite? Or is all of the gold bound up on a molecular level and invisible to the naked eye and 10x loupe? I guess there won't be a gold rush to the asteroid belt Best regards, MikeG -- - Galactic Stone & Ironworks - Meteorites & Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 10/3/11, Sterling K. Webb wrote: > 1.49 mg per gram is one part in 671. > 1/671 of 32 kg is 47.7 grams of gold. > There are 31 grams per troy ounce; gold > is priced in troy ounces; there are 1.537 > troy ounces oif gold in that 32 kg, or > $2551.94 at today's (10/03/11) price. > > Cost you more than that to extract it... > > > Sterling K. Webb > -- > - Original Message - > From: "Stuart McDaniel" > To: "Michael Gilmer" ; > > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:57 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Gold and Iridium content of > meteorites(especiallyirons) > > >> Oops, I was wrong.It would be >> >> 32,000gr / 1.49mg = 21475 mg >> >> 21,475/1000 = 21.475 gr >> >> Right, anyone?? >> >> >> >> >> Stuart McDaniel >> Lawndale, NC >> Secr., >> Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society >> IMCA #9052 >> Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA >> -Original Message- >> From: Michael Gilmer >> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 8:33 PM >> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Gold and Iridium content of meteorites >> (especiallyirons) >> >> Hi List, >> >> In perusing through the latest additions to the Met Bulletin today, I >> was reading the compositional data for NWA 6932 (iron, ungrouped). I >> noticed that the gold (Au) content was listed at 1.49mg/g. Is this >> sort of data as straight-forward as it appears, or is there more to it >> that this layman is missing? In other words, how much gold is in this >> meteorite? The TKW of this meteorite is 32kg. So, with 1000g in a >> kilo, and 1000mg in a gram, how much gold is in this celestial hunk of >> iron? (my math is horrible) >> >> Second question, what is highest known gold content in a meteorite and >> what meteorite is it? >> >> Third question, some meteorites also have high iridium content. What >> is the highest known iridium content in a meteorite? >> >> I am not suggesting in any way that meteorites should be refined or >> melted down to extract their precious metals content, but given the >> high value of metals such as gold and iridium, has any profiteer tried >> such an endeavour? Or would the process be too complex and expensive? >> >> Best regards, >>
[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale - Great buys and new classifications
Hi to all. I am having a sale on meteorites listed on ebay. There are some great deals to be had. Ihave several new classifications that are provisional and ready for new homes. There is a new CV3 (NWA 6870) that is really neat as well as a some nice larger tatahouine fragments and a nice example of the Whitecourt Iron meteorite with export permit, GPS info and pictures. Check it out, you just may find something you like! http://www.ebay.com/sch/wanderingstarmeteorites/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 Thanks for looking and I hope everyone is doing well. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale - Great buys and new classifications
Hi to all. I am having a sale on meteorites listed on ebay. There are some great deals to be had. I have several new classifications that are provisional and ready for new homes. There is a new CV3 (NWA 6870) that is really neat as well as a some nice larger tatahouine fragments and a nice example of the Whitecourt Iron meteorite with export permit, GPS info and pictures. Check it out, you just may find something you like! http://www.ebay.com/sch/wanderingstarmeteorites/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 Thanks for looking and I hope everyone is doing well. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ron Hartman
Sad news indeed. My best goes out to his family. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites From: karmaka To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ron Hartman WHAT A LIFE ! WHAT A LOSS ! My sincere condolences to his family and friends! Martin (who also loves astronomy and teaching) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: impact...@aol.com Gesendet: 11.09.2011 07:51:53 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Ron Hartman >Hello Everybody > >Tonight I have the very sad mission to inform you all that Ron Hartman, one >of the "inventors" of the IMCA has passed away. > >Please read the note that I received from his son Jim: > >Ronald N. Hartman passed away on August 30, 2011, after a brief illness. He >was a Professor of Astronomy and Director of the Planetarium at Mt. San >Antonio College in Walnut, California for 38 years and was well-known in the >community of meteorite collectors and hunters. His passion for meteorites was >kindled when he studied astronomy at the University of California, Los >Angeles under the renowned meteoriticist Frederick C. Leonard, a founder of the >Meteoritical Society. He worked at Griffith Observatory giving public >lectures in the 1960s and began investigating California dry lakes for the >presence >of meteorites. He discovered the Lucerne Dry Lake strewn field in 1963 and >returned to that site in 1999 to find more of the illusive little black >rocks from space. Throughout his career he continued to hunt for meteorites, >first at Meteor Crater, Arizona (when it was legal) and Odessa, Texas. He >found, traded, bought, cut and sold meteorites as well as tektites and shatter >cones and built up a large collection, part of which is displayed at the Mt. >San Antonio College Planetarium and library. In 2005 he founded R. N. >Hartman, Inc., a company that manufactures, assembles and distributes membrane >suspension boxes worldwide. > >He held a B.A. in Astronomy and a B.A. in Cinematography from the >University of California, Los Angeles and an M.A. in Education from California >State >University at Los Angeles. Ron loved astronomy, he loved teaching and he >loved sharing the wonders of the night sky with his students at star parties. >He continued teaching even after he retired in 2005. He was fascinated by >archeoastronomy and traveled to Egypt to study astronomical alignments in >ancient monuments. He was active in the Pacific Planetarium Association and the >International Planetarium Society. He served as an editor of the Planetarian >Magazine from 1978 – 1981. In 1984 he received the ISP Service Award, the ISP >’s most prestigious honor. > >Ron was the oldest son of Albert and Evelyn Hartman. He was born in >Milwaukee, Wisconsin on July 23, 1935, and moved to California at the age of >10. In >1965 he married Petrea Nelson of Reno, Nevada. He is survived by his wife >and two sons, James and Rick Hartman, his brother Chris Hartman, a nephew >Christopher Hartman and niece Laurel Meable. > >If you would like to know more about Ron, please go read the Field Report >he wrote for us several years ago: >_http://imca.cc/old_site/metinfo/metadventures/LDL.html_ >(http://imca.cc/old_site/metinfo/metadventures/LDL.html) > >And I am sure we will talk a lot more about Ron in the coming weeks. >Goodnight. > >Anne M. Black >http://www.impactika.com/ >impact...@aol.com >President, I.M.C.A. Inc. >http://www.imca.cc/ >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Kenya Fall & Hammers
Wow, congrats. This is a big money fall. 10,500 grams recovered at $100 per gram will yield over 1 million in profit... Can wait to see pics. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites - Original Message - From: Jim Wooddell To: Meteorite-List Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Kenya Fall & Hammers This is from Mike... Trying to get this to the meteorite list but tried more than 30 hours ago with no response from Art. This email is premature due to circumstances out of my control sadly. I am announcing the recovery of over 11.7 kilograms of the new Kenya meteorite fall from 16 July, 2011. I saw the news of the fall on 17 July, and purchased a ticket to Kenya about 4 hours later. I arrived in Kenya on 20 July, and on the morning of 21 July, less than 125 hours after the fall, I had more than a kilo in hand. Upon arriving at the fall location, I met a guy who knew a girl who saw a stone land only 5 feet from her in a coffee field while working at ~10:30 am when the explosions rocked the sky. It was cloudy at the fall site so no one saw anything, just heard massive explosions and then loud whistling and sounds that most described as gunfire. Moments after buying that stone, I went to another house of a boy who found a 777 gram stone in a coffee field about 30 minutes after the fall. I stayed 9 days in Kenya, purchasing 10.5 kilos of stones, including the as of now main mass of 3.5 kg. The first stone that was reported on the news weighs less than 2.5 kg, not 5 kg reported. Most interesting about this fall is that it also has 3 seperate hammerstones! First is a househitter that smashed through a metal house roof. I paid to have the rooftop cut out and purchased several fragments of the meteorite, including more on this trip. Second was a stone that weighed more than 350 grams which went through the roof of a greenhouse, and was witnessed by a man working there, it smashed into a metal growing table and exploded into hundreds of pieces. I have all of that one and the plastic hole where it was cut out to be patched. Third is another greenhouse smasher from the same complex, found only 3 days ago by workers moving plants out. It broke into several pieces virtually all of which Greg Hupe and I recovered. It has been subjected to high humidity for a month. I have built a strewnfield map of all but 3 pieces, with exact locations. I returned almost two weeks ago for round two with Greg Hupe. We were able to purchase only an additional 6 stones totalling 1150 grams. This fall is not thick, despite intense searching by hundreds of people who need the money very badly, they have found little. We hired 25 workers for the last two weeks, working from 8 am to 6 pm scouring the bushland, cornfields, banana plantations, and coffee fields, without a single recovery from them. I hunted and walked a great many miles myself with no finds. This was a large fall but seems to be very spread out and large areas are either not huntable or are under heavy cultivation as harvest and tilling is going on now. I have already sold several large pieces of this meteorite, I will have some for sale, but less than 1 kg. I will be building a page about it in the next 48 hours as I am in London now, on my way home. It is already in the lab under study, thin sections on the way and from my own observations I think this meteorite will likely be an L4 or 5. It has no brecciation or veining other than what I suspect are some metal veins seen from the outside, have cut nothing. Expect to hear more from me as soon as I get rested up and get my site ready. There will be little of this available, mostly small fragments, I may have one or two larger stones available, 279~ g and 313~ gram 100% complete, but not cheap! Expenses were more than $1000 per day not including airfare. Nobody works for free in Kenya, to get them to move, money had to come out. In their own words " I need to be properly motivated". Heard that exact phrase more than once. Michael Farmer - Original Message - From: "Meteorite Mania!" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:04 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Kenya Fall & Hammers > Where is all the talk about the newly recovered Kenya fall with > multiple hammers? > > The list should be on fire right now...and where are the pictures? > We're itching to see fresh crust. > > Well done Michael, keep up the good work. > > Ty > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-li
[meteorite-list] AD - up to 20% off ebay listed meteorites
Hi to all, I am running a sale of up to 20% off listed meteorites on ebay. There are some nice deals to be had. I also have some Tagish Lake that is not listed on ebay. Thanks for looking. http://www.ebay.com/sch/wanderingstarmeteorites/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Awesome meteorite sale - Whitecourt, Tatahouine and more!
Hi to all, having an awesome sale on some really nice meteorites Whitecourt Iron meteorite - (with copy of export permit) $10 per gram 55.6 gram http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5637.jpg 27.7 gram http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5646.jpg 100 grams of Tatahouine (fragments up to 2.6 grams and about 70 pieces total) for $1200.00 http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5704.jpg I am also having a very nice sale on ebay listed meteorites: http://shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 Thanks for looking, hope everyone is doing good. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] CAI inclusions
Speaking of big CAIs... Here is a rather nice 1cm plus CAI from a new CV3 I had classified. (still provisional at this time) http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6717Mainmass.jpg Here is the "CAI stone", which came from another group of NWA carbonaceous stones (not the same as above and still under classification). This one is on its way to Germany for research and study (may be the largest CAI ever!) but is still nice to look at. I am excited for the results of this one... http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5377.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5367.jpg I have CM, CO, CR and CV that all have CAIs visible. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites From: Sterling K. Webb To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: E.P. Grondine Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] CAI inclusions E. P., > Simple question - what classes of > meteorites have CAI inclusions? Simple answer: any kind of chondrite. However, most common in carbonaceous chondrites, particularly CV's. They contain more refractory elements than the "ordinary" condrules they are found with. They were formed at higher temperatures and many show signs of repeated meltings. They are older than the next most early solar system materials, the chondrules, by 2,000,000 years or so. Two different dating methods give ages of 4567 my and 4571 my.for CAI's. Sterling K. Webb 08-07-11, 12:16 AM CDT - Original Message - From: "E.P. Grondine" To: Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 7:12 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] CAI inclusions > Hi all - > > Simple question - what classes of meteorites have CAI inclusions? > > E.P. > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD Whitecourt meteorites for sale, best prices around! plus more!!!
Hi to all. I have two extremely nice Whitecourt meteorites for sale. These are priced less then any other I have seen. Each meteorite will come with a high quality color copy of the export permit, an information package on the meteorite, full provenance documentation GPS info on find location as well as a 4x6 photo of the crater. This is the best all around offer for a collectors package of this rare meteorite with a low TKW recovered. Youcan see the listings here for these two exceptional packages - the only ones I will offer! 27.7 gram http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Whitecourt-Meteorite-27g-w-EXPORT-PAPERS-and-GPS-/390332342894?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ae19ee26e 55.6g http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Whitecourt-Meteorite-55g-w-EXPORT-PAPERS-and-GPS-/220816356353?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3369ae3401 I have several other great deals and sales currently running on ebay: http://shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 As always, contact me off ebay for better deals - I am always willing to working something out if I can. Let my feeback speak for itself. I deliver top quality meteorites fast to 1000s of happy customers. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Micromounts and weights - Standards Vary
There is a scale called digiweigh that works awesome. accurate to a grain scale I use to reload ammo with. They last only about 2 years with heavy use but are great in my opinion. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Fri, 7/1/11, Richard Montgomery wrote: > From: Richard Montgomery > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Micromounts and weights - Standards Vary > To: "Michael Blood" , "Met. Mike Bandli" > , "Met. Michael Gilmer" , > "Meteorite List" > Date: Friday, July 1, 2011, 7:53 PM > Hi List, > > As a non-dealer, but the ocassional passer-on-of-specimens, > (normally the ocassional SA batches or other > noteables), I use an x.xx scale yet have always quoted the > weight to x.x -(.x) ...with respect to my error potential. > Quoting at least a -.x (i.e. 68.8gr instead of the scale's > reading of 68.9 or 68.92) to at least insure satisfaction, I > don't expect anyone to get PO-ed when it weighs more than > quoted. Yet this does invite an inaccuracy element > with regard to my labels. > > I'd love to hear some feedback here, so please chime in. > > For the specimens with a stellar provenence > chain-of-custody, I still check and adjust. Crumbs can > fall... > > Or, the original seller may have weighed the specimen from > 30K feet :>) > > -Richard Montgomery > > > - Original Message - From: "Michael Blood" > To: "Met. Mike Bandli" ; > "Met. Michael Gilmer" ; > "Meteorite List" > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:37 PM > Subject: spam: Re: [meteorite-list] Micromounts and weights > - Standards Vary > > > > Hi Mike and all, > > I absolutely agree. I used > to use a $500 digital and now > > Use a $135 digital and I consider them both about as > accurate > > As the other ~ deduct one decimal point for absolute > accuracy. > > (it is likely far closer than that, but one should not > proclaim > > a specific weight, IE .007g (7mg) unless one has a > serious > > balance beam in an air tight setup. A royal pain in > the a** > > And extremely costly. > > However, for the most part, > I always sell micromounts - the > > Ones less than 10mg, based on VISUAL COMPARISON. That > is > > What I look for for my own collection... If I want > something that > > Is so small, then the size is far more important to me > than the mass. > > BTW, a micromount has > traditionally been defined as any > > Specimen that fits into an old style 1" X 1" square > display box. > > The new, vastly superior membrane boxes are > considerably larger > > And can hold a decent sized macromount equally well as > a micromount. > > Best regards, Michael > > > > On 6/30/11 4:52 PM, "Met. Mike Bandli" > wrote: > > > >> A little perspective on milligrams: > >> > >> There are a lot of meteorite mg weights out there > that not accurate. We can > >> thank these new, cheap Chinese digital scales that > promise accuracies of +/- > >> 1mg or less, which are a complete joke. I bought > one in Tucson to test it > >> out against my high-end calibrated machine and it > was off by about 10 mg on > >> average for pieces 50 to 100 mg and 5 mg on > average for pieces 10 to 50 mg. > >> Anything fewer than 10 mg - forget about it. The > calibration weights it came > >> with were even more laughable... > >> > >> In reality, in order to be able to accurately > measure mg, you need a machine > >> that has been recently leveled and calibrated > in-situ. I have a recently > >> leveled/calibrated mechanical scale whose tare > changes by the hour due to > >> changes in the weather. It even picks up the > subtle vibration of the > >> dishwasher downstairs. > >> > >> Bottom line - a $100 mg scale isn't going to get > you the accuracy needed to > >> accurately measure true mg. Since most people > can't afford the hundreds to > >> thousands it costs for an accurate mg scale, I > don't expect most mg weights > >> advertised to be truly accurate. They're close... > >> > >> Just my 2 mg worth (+/- 1mg)... > >> > >> -- > >> Mike Bandli > >> Historic Meteorites > >> www.HistoricMeteorites.com > >> and join us on Facebook: > >
Re: [meteorite-list] Buyers BEWARE!!!! *** update ***
I bought several of the displays mentioned. ALL were well under half the listed weight. And there were made and from an IMCA member. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Tue, 6/28/11, MexicoDoug wrote: > From: MexicoDoug > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Buyers BEWARE *** update *** > To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 11:29 PM > Dan, > > You are 100% right about everything surrounding > authenticity and I completely agree with your effort to make > things right - as does your seller who now has the daunting > problem and expressed an attitude to address it. It was his > honest mistake as you see. Dealing in meteorites is really > hard work. It is easy to empathize with your seller as > everyone has been in a position where something hasn't > worked out. When evaluating honesty it is good to give them > a chance to make things right and if they do, casting them > in a positive light. That sends all the right messages about > buying and selling meteorites to the 'public'. > > Reputation is everything in the meteorite world and I just > felt bad for a guy living near Kennedy Space Center - your > seller. > > Anything related to KSC is dear to me for nostalgic > reasons. Now that the Space Shuttle program is dying down > the place will essentially turn into relatively minor > operation. Gone is Apollo, crash are our spirits in Florida > and no major NASA workhorse program is seriously in the > works. The rocket garden is on its was to being the rusty > rocket headstones. > > Chalk it up to being too sentimental and hoping you get a > satisfactory conclusion but without any heads rolling except > with smiles, > > Kindest wishes > Doug > > > -Original Message- > From: Dan Furlan > To: MexicoDoug > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Sent: Tue, Jun 28, 2011 11:01 pm > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Buyers BEWARE *** update > *** > > > Dear Sir, > The seller still never checked the items before he re-sold > them, yes > this is an honest mistake but very irresponsible and he > sold hundreds > of these mounts with the incorrect weight and the people > who bought > them paid triple the price of what they are worth retail.. > If i was > him, i would of done exactly what I did today upon > receiving the items > and bust a few of the mounts open and actually weigh the > specimens > before selling hundreds of them.. And if i didn't own a > scale i would > put it on the top of my shopping list ASAP especially > before selling > any lunar material with weights in the milligrams. I don't > feel i > dragged anybody through the dirt, all i did was report that > he was > selling 24mg mounts that actually weighed 7-10mg. thanks to > me he is > able to correct this mistake and hopefully he learns a > lesson. > Furthermore people from met-list who may have purchased > these mounts > can seek resolution as well. I cannot stress the importance > of double > checking anything you buy to re-sell or even for personal > collection. > I am sorry we do not see eye to eye on this. How would you > like to > buy something that has a certain weight associated with it > and when > you check it yourself you realize that the reason it weighs > 2 thirds > less then the stated weight is because the seller never > bothered to > weigh it?? If you wouldn't be slightly disappointed then I > am sorry to > say there is something fundamentally wrong with you. I am > not here to > baby sit sellers and understand their mistakes, I am here > to do > business with professionals who i can trust will deliver on > their > word. Like i mentioned in my previous update i am happy to > see this > seller take action and revise his listings and offer > resolutions. I > do not regret making my original post one bit because there > are > hundreds of people out there who purchased lunar and mars > material for > top dollar and didn't get what they paid for and they are > entitled to > know about it. You may think I was being inconsiderate by > making the > original post but in reality i was being responsible to my > fellow > meteorite collectors and dealers who may have purchased > these mounts > in the past assuming the weight was correct as well as any > potential > buyers who had active bids on them as well. This is the > price you pay > when you do business and mess up.. I am a very trusting > person, and i > believe what people tell me.. but when i sp
[meteorite-list] AD - nice sale on meteorites and lots
Hi to all. Here is a list of a few nice meteorites and lots for sale. Can ship any sales paid for today in the morning. After today, shipping will not be available until after the 4th of July. Thanks for looking. Valera Meteorite slice 3.8g KILLED AN ANIMAL! $120.00 ALH76009 .03g $25.00 NWA 6550 (LL3.7) 80 gram corner cut $130.00 300g of INCREDIBLE Sikhote-Alin individuals for $400.00 - 2 available Tatahouine Thin Sections (uncovered) $50.00 each - 2 available Camel Donga 30g lots for $450.00 each Carancas 30g lot (recovered by Bob Haag)- $600.00 Tatahouine 20g lot for $250.00 I also have some nice items on ebay for sale. See link below. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] More bad meteorites - Zunhua wrongs H- when will it end?
Well... I was scammed with the mifflin-wrong. Lost over $4000 on that... had someone steal $300 in meteorites from me over it also... Now there is another fake meteorite... Zunhua. If you have Zunhua it may not be Zunhua, and it did not come from me. This is what happens when people put $100 per gram prices on OCs. More to come on this... Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - NEW AND AWESOME NWA 6658 Mesosiderite!!!
Forget digging around ebay and having to search out real mesosiderites from PLATEAU PUTORANO meteorwrongs and small pieces of real Mesosiderite. I have the entire TKW of NWA 6658, a stunning new meso that is simply awesome. Be it slices or whole stones, I have something for anyone who wants some. At $7.00 per gram this is the best meso on the market for the best price. With only about 200g known, it wont last long. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6658Meso230g.jpg You can also see some pieces on ebay, simply search NWA 6658 Thanks for looking. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Free Shipping
I have found $5 will cover overseas postage most the time. When shipping outside the USA, I use more bubble rap and it also takes more time to fill out customs forms etc. Then you factor in cost of bubble mailer, ink, paper etc... a lot of people dont think about the added costs for secure shipping. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Thu, 6/9/11, almi...@localnet.com wrote: > From: almi...@localnet.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Free Shipping > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Thursday, June 9, 2011, 6:22 AM > Hi Matthew and all, > > Odd as I never view Alaska and Hawaii as not part of the > USA only a bit further away. > > One thing that I do post in my adds are, No shipping to > certain countries because of extreme trouble with that > countries mail service. There are a few places like that and > some people have had too much trouble dealing with those > countries so I simply don't ship to those places. > > When their citizens tell them to clean things up and they > become reliable then we'll be glad to ship then. > > Quoting mmar...@meteoritetreasures.com: > > > Hi Chris & List, > > > > I've had many say that Hawaii doesn't count. I > guess they failed 3rd grade geography. > > > > I am constantly frustrated with ignorant sellers who > charge more for shipping to Hawaii. Especially > for Priority Mail. Hawaii is part of the US and > therefore flat rate is the same cost! And First > Class price differences are minimal/ Oftentimes > people try to charge way more...sigh... > > > > Many listings often say "will ship to lower 48 > contiguous states only" ...I often wonder why...lazy I > guess. They more often than not use USPS > too...such a pity...I take my business elsewhere. > > > > Hawaii is often treated like a foreign country when it > comes to shipping. I sympathize with your > frustration, Chris. > > > > > > Matthew Martin > > Meteorite Treasures > > www.meteoritetreasures.com> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > I wish dealers especially on EBay wouldn't advertise > "Free Shipping" when it only applies to U.S.customers. > The rest of us (non U. S.) get hit with high shipping > costs. > > > > Chris Spratt > > (Via my iPhone) > > > > __ > > Visit the Archives at > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re : Re : Moroccan business meteorite is suffering
But that there is the very dangerous and terrible downside to meteorite selling. Eventually most will be crumbs and sub gram samples that offer little to no scientific value. So many forget that while this is a hobby for some, scientists and researchers have made careers out of studying these wonderful rocks from space. Its not always about the dollar and thats the one ingredient of the Meteorite men that is so troubling. I know if there is no money values viewers may not tune in, but its more like a cash for treasures show then a science show with so much $$ flashing around after every find. (not a jab at the show, I think its great to draw in new collectors) Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Sun, 6/5/11, Michael Gilmer wrote: > From: Michael Gilmer > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re : Re : Moroccan business meteorite is > suffering > To: "bill kies" > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Sunday, June 5, 2011, 8:46 PM > I've been saying it for years - buy > low as possible, sell high. > > Go on open market, buy a $10 micromount. > > Cut that 1-inch square micro into 10 smaller squares and > sell each > square for $5. > > If you cannot afford a saw, whack the micro with a hammer > and sell > each piece for $5. > > Bingo, you have just quintupled your money before expenses > and overhead. > > Do this on 50-100 micros a month and your rent is paid. > > Lather rinse repeat. > > There is so much profit potential in meteorites - even with > the > wholesale prices climbing. The key is adjusting one's > business model. > > The old-school business model says to take that 1-inch > square micro > you bought for $10 and resell it (intact) to a single buyer > for $20 or > $25. That same business model also says to do it on > eBay where now > give almost 30% of your gross revenue to a > multi-billion-dollar > corporation. If people cling to that business model, > they will watch > their profits dwindle to the level they could make selling > stamps, > Pokemon cards, or anything other collectible. > > Embrace the Bessey Speck! ;) > > Best regards, > > MikeG > > > > On 6/5/11, bill kies > wrote: > > > > Carl, your analogy is so flawed it isn't worth debate. > When profits dwindle > > it's time to find another business. Welcome to free > trade and capitalism > > Aziz. > > > > Bill > > > > > > > >> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 19:43:16 -0400 > >> From: cdtuc...@cox.net > >> To: parkforest...@hotmail.com; > azizhab...@yahoo.com > >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re : Re : Moroccan > business meteorite is > >> suffering > >> CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >> > >> Bill, > >> Aziz's worries are very real here. > >> Yes, in an ideal world you are correct. But, > >> Aziz and others make their living buying and > selling meteorites. No. you > >> cannot eat them but, the same can be said about > oil and energy in general. > >> These dealers are no better off than oil > investors. When hedge funds or > >> anyone else corners a market as they have. The > market gets controlled by > >> them and if you want to stay in business you have > to pay the price. > >> Remember these hedge funds types have a lot of > money. They CAN afford to > >> sit on the material until a willing buyer comes > along. It is a lose , lose > >> situation. > >> Market manipulation is very real and until > outlawed it will continue to > >> put undue pressure on the smaller dealers like > Aziz and others. They must > >> either pay the asking price or go out of business. > Very sad but true. So, > >> Aziz must pay the price and hope he can convince > others to pay his new and > >> inflated asking price. In America the opposite is > happening with > >> meteorites. EBay has forced the prices down. So, > if you make a living with > >> eBay you must adjust . If you make a living with > Nomads you must adjust. > >> Carl > >> -- > >> > >> "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what > to have for dinner. > >> Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the > vote".” > >> > >> > >> > >> bill kies wrote: > >> > > >> > Exactly. When the seller demands more than &g
[meteorite-list] AD - awesome meteorite sale with cant miss prices
Hi to all, hope everyone is doing well. I have a few items to offer for sale - pictures and more info on request. Carancas recovered by Bob Haag - $30 per gram - 1 gram minimum. Tatahouine - $10 per gram - 10g minimum and stones under 2g each Camel Donga - $15 per gram - 1 gram minimum. NWA 6658 Mesosiderite - $5 per gram with 1 gram minimum. Sikhote-Alin individuals - $2 per gram with 10g minimum. NWA 5363 (paired with NWA 5400) $30 per gram (BEST PRICE I HAVE SEEN ON THIS MATERIAL!) Orgueil - 70mg for $105 NWA 6550 (LL3.7) $3 per gram 115g NWA Ureilite (currently being classified) make offers NWA CC tkw1950 (currently being classified) complete stones - $5.00 per gram Buy a lot, I will offer even better prices. Thanks for looking! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook 99th anniversary Meteorite Hunt
I would love to make the trip! Wont know until closer to the time however. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Fri, 5/27/11, Ruben Garcia wrote: > From: Ruben Garcia > Subject: [meteorite-list] Holbrook 99th anniversary Meteorite Hunt > To: "Meteorite List" > Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 2:44 PM > Hi all, > > July 19, 2011 will mark the 99th anniversary of the > Holbrook fall. > > In celebration of that monumental event I am considering > leading a > hunt to the Holbrook strewn field – of course this > depends on how many > are interested. I am considering one day on the weekend > (not both) > prior to the anniversary – either July 16th or 17th. I am > aware that > this close to July 4th weekend most people may be out of > money but > it's worth a try. > > Any and all are invited regardless of experience! If you > are new to > meteorite hunting then this is your chance to meet at least > one > professional meteorite hunter (who's found hundreds of > Holbrook > meteorites)and learn. If you are experienced and would like > to come > too, I would welcome the help, as there will likely be more > beginners > than advanced hunters. > > Typically when hunting the area I stay in the Motel 6 in > Holbrook > where rooms are usually very inexpensive ($40-$50 per > night) > > Please contact me and let me know if you are interested in > joining me. > It would be great to have a large turn out. After > all, I get 100’s of > requests a year from people all over the country wanting to > learn > about meteorite hunting. > > Now is your chance! > > Email and let me know if you are interested and which day > works best: > mrmeteor...@gmail.com > > > -- > Rock On! > > Ruben Garcia > > Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net > Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ > Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorwrongs-collect? RE:
While I wont buy a meteorwrong (would rather spend the $1-$5 per gram on real meteorites) I do have a small collection I or others have found or I have been given. I find they work good in meteorite presentations to show what not to look for and common wrong indicators. I will often put a right in with a pile of wrongs and kids who pick the meteorite get a free meteorite. To me, they just are not worth buying. They do help me teach kids, so they do have some value... Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Mon, 5/23/11, MIke Antonelli wrote: > From: MIke Antonelli > Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorwrongs-collect? RE: > To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Monday, May 23, 2011, 4:44 PM > Haha I unintentionally have become a > collector of meteorwrongs in my efforts to find meteorites! > The flower bed in front of my house used to be filled in > with mulch, but Ive switched over to ugly rocks > somehow...Mike A. > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Big meteorite lots sale and others
Hi to all, hope everyone is doing well. I have some lots for sale that some may be interested in... 30g lots of Tatahouine for $10 per gram 30g lots of Camel Donga for $17 per gram 30g lots of Carancas for $30 per gram 100g lots Sikhote Alin individuals for $1.50 per gram NWA 6658 - an awesome new Mesosiderite for $7 per gram Park Forest meteorite winslow house hammer displays $30 each Tatahouine Thin sections for $60.00 each NWA 5363 (NWA 5400 paired) GREAT BIG slices for $40 per gram Taking offers on this - only accepting offers at this time - http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5377.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5367.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5382.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5371.jpg Hope everyone is good and thanks for looking. PS. dont forget to check out my ebay listings... http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ISO - Cutting a Ureilite questions/help
Hi to all. A quick question... I have a 119ish gram Ureilite that needs cut. It is tearing up blades and we cant even get it mounted to thin section. Its some very tough stuff. Who can cut this? Anyone have advise? Thanks, hope all is good. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Largest CAI?
I came across that link while searching for info. Its the biggest photographed I was able to find also. Hard to tell from pics, but I think mine is bigger with a good amount more mass. It looks to have some bluish looking crystals in it. More pics: http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5382.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5372.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5371.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5367.jpg The CAI looks to be roughly 1 inch across and up to 1/2 inch thick - if it does not go into the stone more then I can see. Been tempted to try to remove one of the crystal looking things inside it, but not sure if I should try. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Fri, 5/13/11, Phil Morgan wrote: > From: Phil Morgan > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Largest CAI? > To: "Greg Catterton" > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Friday, May 13, 2011, 6:19 PM > Greg, > Here is a link to a big one Martin shared a while back > > http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2008/march/Accretion_Desk.htm > > FYI, > Phil > > On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Greg Catterton > > wrote: > > I am looking for photos of largest CAIs. I have > searched the net, finding few. Anyone have pics of really > big CAIs? What is the biggest known and whats it from? > > Hope everyone is good. > > > > Greg Catterton > > www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com > > IMCA member 4682 > > On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites > > On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites > > __ > > Visit the Archives at > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Jeff Kuyken Finds his First Meteorite
Congrats Jeff! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Fri, 5/13/11, Mike Bandli wrote: > From: Mike Bandli > Subject: [meteorite-list] Jeff Kuyken Finds his First Meteorite > To: "Michael Johnson" > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Friday, May 13, 2011, 11:39 AM > A BIG congrats to friend and fellow > Australian meteorite guru Jeff Kuyken for finding his very > first meteorite. We were honored to share in the moment and > it set the tone for what would become an amazing week here > at Whitecourt. He didn't know it it until this week, but > Jeff is a natural born meteorite hunter. > > I had a first as well - my first taste of Vegemite on > toast. I have to say, it is pretty nasty > > Cheers, > > Mike Bandli > > > - Original Message - > From: "Michael Johnson" > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 5:05:10 AM > Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the > Day - May 13, 2011 > > http://www.rocksfromspace.org/May_13_2011.html > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Largest CAI?
I am looking for photos of largest CAIs. I have searched the net, finding few. Anyone have pics of really big CAIs? What is the biggest known and whats it from? Hope everyone is good. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Off Topic - USPS Space Stamps
The post office has some cool space stamps available now. Might look good framed next to a meteorite collection or to toss a few on a mailer to send a friend a space rock. They look really nice. They are forever stamps, so worse case in 10 years from now, you can still mail a letter with them. Just thought some might like to know. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 1 inch long, 1cm thick CAI
Here is an awesome 1 inch long by 1 cm thick CAI... It is the most massive one I have ever seen. Hope you all enjoy the pics. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5295.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5293.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5299-1.jpg Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bogus Specimens, IMCA membership, and honesty issues.
I too want to thank Jason for his time. That said, PLEASE... anyone who has questions about material from me or anyone else, if/when you do, please contact the person with the material. If Jason had contacted me originally instead of the IMCA, I would have supplied him with a sample to have checked out. Its important that we all work together when there are questions or concerns. Deal with the people directly rather then going to others. The source is always the best. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Mon, 5/9/11, Michael Fowler wrote: > From: Michael Fowler > Subject: [meteorite-list] Bogus Specimens, IMCA membership, and honesty > issues. > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Cc: "Michael Fowler" > Date: Monday, May 9, 2011, 11:55 AM > > Hi Elizabeth and List, > > > > Before I say anything - everyone here should thank > Jason Utas for > > investigating and exposing this fraud on his own time > with his own > > money. He did not have to do that, but he did so > because he cares > > about meteorites and honor. Microprobe results do not > lie. My hat is > > off to you sir. > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > MikeG > > I too wanted to thank Jason Utas for undertaking what could > be a thankless task. > > I've read Jason's posts over the years, and have observed > that he has a keen eye, and is very informed in his > meteorite comments. > > His are one of a handful of posters to the meteorite list > that I always read. > > I think the time and effort he spent on this benefited the > whole collecting community. Where would we be if he > hadn't spoken up? > > One thing for sure, fraudsters never stop with just one > fraud. > > Mike Fowler > Chicago > ebay-starsandrocks > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos...
That is some of the speculation that it may be a new find, or a planted find. Once I get some of the material returned, I am sending samples to be tested to try to help determine what it is and how long its been on Earth. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Sun, 5/8/11, Richard Montgomery wrote: > From: Richard Montgomery > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... > To: "michael cottingham" , > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 7:49 PM > Hello List and Michael C. > > A huge compelling question is what the "fake" Mifflin > really isChergach and Bassikounou have been suggested, > or any popular H5 for that matter, and this relates to my > intermediate topic question I posted during this thread with > topic title "whole stone concerns" ...(I'm still interested > in a detailed perspective on that as well.) > > Michael, 'twould be good to get the "fakes" analyzed asap, > but I bet you're already well on your way for an > answer. How weird it would be to actually be a new > find? > > Richard Montgomery > > > - Original Message - From: "michael cottingham" > > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 1:19 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real > Mifflin Photos... > > > > Hello, > > > > Since Jason posted his discovery, 2 more pieces of > "fake" Mifflin have been recovered. Taking into account cut > loss, I think I am almost certain that I have recovered 95% > of the stone that I was duped into buying. I will not > be 100% certain until all of the pieces are returned to > me. Even though, I have not been 100% refunded for my > purchase, I feel it is important to refund people's money > immediately or as fast as possible and to get this fake crap > off the market and into the trash can... or maybe into a > lawyer's hand! > > > > PLEASE NOTE: If you have any doubt about a > Mifflin specimen you obtained from me ...PLEASE send me a > photo so I can confirm one way or the other. Especially ,if > it does not look like anything in the Met Bulletin below. > Even if you did not get it from me, but just want a second > opinion... send me the photo. > > > > Here is also a link to photos of Real Mifflin. > Everything posted in the Meteoritical Bulletin entry is > indeed REAL Mifflin. > > > > http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=52090 > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Michael Cottingham > > __ > > Visit the Archives at > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos...
The slice Jim has is the non Mifflin stone. Jim, sorry, I have tons of emails, just got to yours and sent you an email as you must have been posting this. I am reclaiming the material and will be sending a sample soon to be tested to try to confirm when this fell and just what it is. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Sun, 5/8/11, michael cottingham wrote: > From: michael cottingham > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... > To: jimsk...@aol.com > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 6:21 PM > Hello, > > I think the one you mentioned...is really hard to tell. > Catterton did a part trade/cash deal with me and some of the > trade material was REAL Mifflin that I personally found, > even though you purchased it from him it might be the real > deal, at least on that piece. The time frame would have to > be after July 10th, because he did not have my real Mifflin > until after then. > > Best Wishes > > Michael > On May 8, 2011, at 4:17 PM, jimsk...@aol.com > wrote: > > > Hi Michael and list, > > > > Not all of the Mifflin photo's on the Met. Bulletin > (IMCA Encyclopedia of > > Meteorites) are of the real thing. I have three photos > there. One is a > > slice from Joe's main mass, another is a complete > individual that I found > > during my five day hunt and the fake is the slice that > I purchased from Greg > > Catterton. I contacted Greg C this morning to get my > refund and have not > > received a response. I'll remove the photo later. If > you have one that looks > > like this, you've been duped. > > > > Best Wishes, > > Jim K > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/8/2011 3:47:13 P.M. Central > Daylight Time, > > mikew...@gilanet.com > writes: > > Hello, > > > > Since Jason posted his discovery, 2 more pieces > of "fake" Mifflin have > > been recovered. Taking into account cut loss, I > think I am almost certain that > > I have recovered 95% of the stone that I was > duped into buying. I will > > not be 100% certain until all of the pieces are > returned to me. Even though, > > I have not been 100% refunded for my purchase, I > feel it is important to > > refund people's money immediately or as fast as > possible and to get this > > fake crap off the market and into the trash > can... or maybe into a lawyer's > > hand! > > > > PLEASE NOTE: If you have any doubt > about a Mifflin specimen you obtained > > from me ...PLEASE send me a photo so I can > confirm one way or the other. > > Especially ,if it does not look like anything in > the Met Bulletin below. Even > > if you did not get it from me, but just want a > second opinion... send me > > the photo. > > > > Here is also a link to photos of Real Mifflin. > Everything posted in the > > Meteoritical Bulletin entry is indeed REAL > Mifflin. > > > > http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=52090 > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Michael Cottingham > > __ > > Visit the Archives at > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos...
No, I am refunding, giving credit and/or exchanges to all who got the material. While I am taking the steps needed to get 100% of the material returned to me, I still want answers that clearly have not been given... like what is this stone, when/how long ago did it fall and what it likely is. Further testing will be done, and has already been set up. I want answers and so do many others. Proper testing is the only way it can be done. I am doing the best I can to be open and honest concerning what I am doing. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Sun, 5/8/11, michael cottingham wrote: > From: michael cottingham > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... > To: "Greg Catterton" > Cc: jimsk...@aol.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 6:58 PM > Hello, > > Does, this mean you are not refunding customer's money now? > It is clearly not Mifflin and it seems further tests is just > a delay. If I am wrong in assuming this, then I apologize, > but it would be best to buy these back now and get them to > the trash can and out of collections. > > Best Wishes > > Michael Cottingham > On May 8, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Greg Catterton wrote: > > > The slice Jim has is the non Mifflin stone. > > Jim, sorry, I have tons of emails, just got to yours > and sent you an email as you must have been posting this. > > I am reclaiming the material and will be sending a > sample soon to be tested to try to confirm when this fell > and just what it is. > > > > Greg Catterton > > www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com > > IMCA member 4682 > > On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites > > On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites > > > > > > --- On Sun, 5/8/11, michael cottingham > wrote: > > > >> From: michael cottingham > >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... > and Real Mifflin Photos... > >> To: jimsk...@aol.com > >> Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >> Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 6:21 PM > >> Hello, > >> > >> I think the one you mentioned...is really hard to > tell. > >> Catterton did a part trade/cash deal with me and > some of the > >> trade material was REAL Mifflin that I personally > found, > >> even though you purchased it from him it might be > the real > >> deal, at least on that piece. The time frame would > have to > >> be after July 10th, because he did not have my > real Mifflin > >> until after then. > >> > >> Best Wishes > >> > >> Michael > >> On May 8, 2011, at 4:17 PM, jimsk...@aol.com > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Michael and list, > >>> > >>> Not all of the Mifflin photo's on the Met. > Bulletin > >> (IMCA Encyclopedia of > >>> Meteorites) are of the real thing. I have > three photos > >> there. One is a > >>> slice from Joe's main mass, another is a > complete > >> individual that I found > >>> during my five day hunt and the fake is the > slice that > >> I purchased from Greg > >>> Catterton. I contacted Greg C this morning to > get my > >> refund and have not > >>> received a response. I'll remove the photo > later. If > >> you have one that looks > >>> like this, you've been duped. > >>> > >>> Best Wishes, > >>> Jim K > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> In a message dated 5/8/2011 3:47:13 P.M. > Central > >> Daylight Time, > >>> mikew...@gilanet.com > >> writes: > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> Since Jason posted his discovery, 2 more > pieces > >> of "fake" Mifflin have > >>> been recovered. Taking into account cut > loss, I > >> think I am almost certain that > >>> I have recovered 95% of the stone that I > was > >> duped into buying. I will > >>> not be 100% certain until all of the > pieces are > >> returned to me. Even though, > >>> I have not been 100% refunded for my > purchase, I > >> feel it is important to > >>> refund people's money immediately or as > fast as > >> possible and to get this > >>> fake crap off the market and
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin, Amiss
Ok. I cant keep this quite anymore... Screw the lies and secrets. I think the truth should be out there. About Joes "awesome" stone... He told me personally and we also talked over email about it... he found it on the same persons property that someone else had already stolen a stone from. Yes, I know this because he told me directly. No second hand BS. He lied to everyone and even had a totally BS story published about his finding it under a bridge. So please, before anyone else goes to say how Joe fed his family, took a trip to disney world and what not, he lied about finding it and thats the true story behind the "Kerchner Stone" Yes, his family ate, but what about the person whos land it fell on? Ask her how her family trip to disney went... Joe, sorry man, but it had to come out at some time. I took public one person who stole material from Mifflin, anyone else care to out the other? I dont know the whole story, so I will let others tell that tale. I know many on this list know of Joes lie and also the other person... but I honestly doubt ANYONE will come forward on this. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Sun, 5/8/11, Linton Rohr wrote: > From: Linton Rohr > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin, Amiss > To: "Shawn Alan" , jasonu...@gmail.com > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 3:29 AM > Ahoy there, Jason, Shawn and list. > Intriguing situation, Jason. Thanks for sharing. > And like you Shawn, I'm glad I got my beautiful little > slice from Joe. I didn't see all that much "drama" in it, > though. He put in a lot of work, and found enough to be able > to both keep some and sell enough to feed his family. That's > just plain cool, in my book. Thanks Joe! > Linton > > - Original Message - From: "Shawn Alan" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:38 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin, Amiss > > > Jason and Listers, > > > This is a very interesting post in the since I have to say > something doesn't add up. One an anonymous finder contacts > Carl and has him send cash to a PO box. Red flag. Two > the phone number is disconnected. Three the transaction > was done in cash. I have to say with those three elements > this would have to be a scam, someone got had. If this was a > legit sale wouldn't it have been done in the correct ways > via pay pal not some undercover 007 style, sending cash in > the mail to a PO BOX? > > As for testing goes, cant Carl Agee do a terrestrial age > analysis and also have a cre done which can prove or > disprove this theory that someone is suggesting that Mifflin > has two litholgies, which I have to say isnt the case and > that these stones are not related to Mifflin in anyway from > the evidence presented by Jason. > > Now the question is who was the scammer. I have to assume > that one this scammer knew what they were doing and somehow > was or is connected to the meteorite collecting world or > they are really smart and picked up how to scam meteorite > hunter 101. First of all they knew of Carl, two they knew of > the fall, three, they knew of what a freshly fallen > meteorite looks like and four the meteorite in question is a > real meteorite but not from the same fall. > > I think the scammer is one of us or is connected to one of > us just because of the circumstances of the event and that > the meteorite is a real meteorite and has fusion crust. If > it was a non meteoritest, I think it would have been a > stone, but this was not the case it was a real meteorite in > the mists of being a fake Mifflin. This is to good to be > done by some non meteorite collector but again people are > getting smarter these days to make some cash. But this means > that this scammer would have to buy a real meteorite to turn > around to sell as a fake recent meteorite fall. > > All I can say is if I came into this situation I would have > thought the sale would have been a scam right from the start > with me sending money to a PO box. Also I am glad I didn't > buy this stuff I was able to buy some from Joe Kerchner > which that had some drama in its self as well. > > My 2 cents > > Shawn Alan > IMCA 1633 > eBaystore > http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html > > > > > > > > [meteorite-list] Mifflin, Amiss > jason utas jasonutas at gmail.com > Sat May 7 21:12:16 EDT 2011 > > Previous message: [meteorite-list] Where is everyone? > Facebook? > Next message: [meteorite-list] Mifflin, Amiss > Mes
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin, Amiss
I first want to say that Carl has "made things right" with me. Secondly, I am fairly sure most of the material has been made known to the buyers at this time and steps have been taken to make things right with them. Upon being informed of this, I contacted the person who did the testing and they confirmed the results. I have dealt with him, and trust his work 100%. I hope those that are following this understand I was sold a stone that was told to me was mifflin and have done what I needed to help resolve this issue and show that I have done nothing under handed. On a side note, and I learned of some of this from this issue... Two people reportedly stole meteorites from the land owners in WI. Large ones... One made a totally BS story of it being found under a bridge that was published and upon reading is really laughable with many holes that most would readily pick out... I know because he told me directly. The other... while I dont know full details, many others do, but remain quite. WHY has this activity not been addressed and just swept up under the rug? Surely these actions need addressed just as this does. I want to make it clear that while I am not attempting to cast blame or redirect this issue, there is more going on that still remains a little secret to those that know and it too should come out. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Sat, 5/7/11, drtanuki wrote: > From: drtanuki > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin, Amiss > To: "jason utas" , meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 10:31 PM > Jason, > You raise several good points and analysis. One > further question that should be asked is how many grams of > this rock were put into the market as Mifflin? And have they > made their way into the "gene pool" to how many buyers and > sellers and yet to reproduce more offspring? Dirk > Ross...Tokyo > > > --- On Sun, 5/8/11, jason utas > wrote: > > > From: jason utas > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin, Amiss > > To: "Meteorite-list" > > Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 10:12 AM > > Hello All, > > > > My story begins in the summer of last year. I saw > > some strange pieces > > of 'Mifflin' on ebay that I thought looked funny. > > People were talking > > about the meteorite having two lithologies, but...the > > slices and > > individuals that I saw looked 'off.' A select few > > looked like > > H-chondrites, and they had the telltale signs of wear > that > > freshly-imported Moroccan falls bear: worn edges, > exposed > > metal flakes > > on protruding corners (where the fusion crust had been > worn > > off due to > > improper packing), etc. > > > > At the time, I did nothing but send a private email to > Anne > > Black > > notifying her of my suspicions. I spoke with some > > other prominent > > list-members addressing it, and they all agreed that > the > > material > > looked funny, but that nothing could be done about it > given > > the > > required burden of proof. > > > > So, I sat on my hands for several months. > > > > Just over a month ago, I saw a piece of the > funny-looking > > 'Mifflin' on > > ebay. It looked similar to some pieces that I > remembered > > seeing on > > ebay months before, and, being an end-cut, I was able > to > > see both the > > stone's funny-looking inside -- and the apparent > metal > > grains on the > > stone's exterior. > > > > I used the 'buy-it-now' option to purchase the > end-cut, and > > it > > arrived while Peter and I were in Morocco. When we > > returned, I > > promptly shipped the end-cut off to Tony Irving of > the > > University of > > Washington; he agreed to analyze the stone posthaste. > > > > The results came back, but Tony wanted to wait until > the > > probe was > > recallibrated so that he could run it again to be > sure. > > > > Lo and behold, he did confirm that my end-cut was an > > equilibrated > > H-chondrite, with an olivine Fa of 18.6. For > > comparison, Chergach and > > Bassikounou both have Fa contents of 18.4 and 18.6, > > respectively. > > > > University of Madison, Wisconsin performed most of the > work > > on the > > Mifflin fall. Between them and the Field Museum, > over > > twenty separate > > stones were analyzed. They were
Re: [meteorite-list] OT - BIN LADEN DEAD - Hitler announced same day
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/may/1/newsid_3571000/3571497.stm Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Sun, 5/1/11, Darren Garrison wrote: > From: Darren Garrison > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT - OBAMA BIN LADEN DEAD! > To: "Meteorite List" > Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 11:58 PM > Obama gets to wave a birth > certificate AND a death certificate in the same week! > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT - OBAMA BIN LADEN DEAD!
LOL. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Sun, 5/1/11, Eric Wichman wrote: > From: Eric Wichman > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT - OBAMA BIN LADEN DEAD! > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 10:50 PM > I know you meant "OSAMA" not OBAMA > right? > > On 5/1/2011 7:44 PM, Ruben Garcia wrote: > > Just heard the monster is dead! FOX and CNN > > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - crazy numbers meteorite sale
I have some unusually priced meteorites listed for sale on ebay... Lunar thin sections for $88.88? Worth looking at... http://shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 Hope everyone is good! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] My first classification - NWA 6696 (LL3.6)
Way to go Mike, congrats! I am happy to say this piece: http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/Meteorites/chondrules/slice-close-chondrules-rough.jpg Is sitting in my display case now with a NWA number, very cool! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Fri, 4/29/11, Galactic Stone & Ironworks wrote: > From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] My first classification - NWA 6696 (LL3.6) > To: "Larry Atkins" > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Friday, April 29, 2011, 2:28 PM > Hi Larry, Gary and List, > > Here are some photos of NWA 6696 - > > http://s268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/Meteorites/chondrules/ > > I have a few more on my HD somewhere, but there isn't much > to see on > such a small stone. My only regret is that the stone > is so small. > The matrix is wall-to-wall chondrules, many of which are > surrounded by > a thin rim of metal. This stone just goes to show (as > Larry said) > that visual pairings are misleading. I'd seen photos > of CR stones > that looked exactly like my specimen. The main reason > I submitted it > is because I was confident it was a CR. Then I was > pleasantly > surprised by the LL3.6 classification, given the presence > of > visually-abundant metal. A large stone like this > would produce some > very attractive slices. > > Of course, like many chondrule-rich OC's, the look is not > improved by > polishing. The chondrules darken and become invisible > when polished > (except for a few of the whitish colored ones). So I > left one side of > my remaining slice unpolished. > > By virtue of numbers, this LL3.6 is more scarce than a > CR. There are > 115 approved CR meteorites and only 16 LL3.6 stones. > It's good to > know that my stone is in good company with Parnallee and is > sitting in > a UCLA cabinet where it might contribute to science in some > way. :) > > Best regards, > > MikeG > > --- > Galactic Stone & Ironworks - Meteorites & Amber > > Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com > Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone > News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 > Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone > EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 > > > > On 4/29/11, Larry Atkins > wrote: > > Hi Mike, List, > > > > Congrat's on your classification! > > > > The way you described the meteorite as having armored > chondrules and > > thinking it was possibly a CR, then finding out it's > an LL 3.6 made me > > think of a very similar scenario that has recently > played out for me. I > > thought a chondrite I bought in 2008 was possibly a CR > as did some > > other list members and it turned out to be an LL 3.8. > I'd like to see > > pictures of yours Mike, I wonder if it looks similar. > Here's a link to > > pic's of my new classifications, NWA 6581, ( LL 6) and > NWA 6582, the LL > > 3.8. > > > > http://s934.photobucket.com/albums/ad190/alienrockfarm/ > > > > > > I saw that yours is 1 of only 16 meteorites with that > classification, > > so despite its "unassuming" status amongst a pile of > lunars and such, > > it's still a rarity! > > > > > > Sincerely, > > Larry Atkins > > > > IMCA # 1941 > > Ebay alienrockfarm > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks > > To: Meteorite List > > Sent: Fri, Apr 29, 2011 11:41 am > > Subject: [meteorite-list] My first classification - > NWA 6696 (LL3.6) > > > > > > Hi List, > > > > Some new meteorites were added to the Met Bulletin > today, including > > some new lunars. > > > > Hidden amongst the more exciting lunars is an > unassuming LL3.6 - NWA > > 6696. > > > > This small 10g stone came in a batch of unclassified > NWA that I > > purchased about 3 years ago. Upon windowing this > small stone, I saw > > an adundance of armored chondrules. At first > glance, it resembled a > > CR type. I posted some photos to this > list, a minor discussion > > ensued, and then the sample went off to the lab to be > looked at by Dr. &
Re: [meteorite-list] Congrats to the Count on Stump Springs 083. :)
Way to go Count! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Mon, 4/25/11, Larry Atkins wrote: > From: Larry Atkins > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Congrats to the Count on Stump Springs 083. :) > To: meteoritem...@gmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 7:35 PM > I've been set straight, should've > looked into it before hitting the 'send' button! > Nice find Count! > > > Sincerely, > Larry Atkins > > IMCA # 1941 > Ebay alienrockfarm > > > > -Original Message- > From: Michael Gilmer > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Sent: Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:48 pm > Subject: [meteorite-list] Congrats to the Count on Stump > Springs 083. :) > > > It's official - http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=52752 > > Congrats all around! :) > > > -- > Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites > > Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com > Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone > News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 > Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone > EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 > --- > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - AWESOME meteorites for sale!
Hi to all, I have about 110 meteorite listings on ebay currently. There is some really nice material at good prices. Take a look, you just may see something you like! http://shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Awesome Camel Donga, Tatahouine, Anomalous CV3, and more
Hi to all, I (like everyone else) am trying to raise some cash up. I have some really nice meteorites listed on ebay currently. Included is a NEW mesosiderite, NWA 6658 - which is a very neat meso and looks great cut or uncut. Several very nice Tatahouine up to 5g Camel Donga slices, end cuts, fragments NWA 1465 - very neat anomalous CV3 Awesome Sikhote Alin individuals. Feel free to make offers for off ebay sales. You can see my listings here: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites Thanks for looking. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT -Oil reserves, the reality
I think its more very long term thinking by the USA to corner the oil market once everyone elses oil supply is gone. The USA will end up being the next oil exporting giant. Use everyone elses then use ours. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Fri, 4/8/11, Tim Heitz wrote: > From: Tim Heitz > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT -Oil reserves, the reality > To: "David R. Vann" , > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Friday, April 8, 2011, 2:51 PM > Hi David, > > 340 billion dollars leaves the U.S. every year to buy oil, > when we > have all the oil we need right here, its the 24 billion > barrels at the Bakken Oil Formation in S.D. > > Our politicians are running this scam and we are the fools. > Think of all the jobs this would create > and onshore drilling would also be much safer against oil > spills, keeping the money here, would > also greatly help America. Just what are the > politicians thinking? > > Will the oil in the Bakken Formation free us from depending > on foreign oil? > You bet it will. > > > We need more money to buy meteorites:) > > > Best Regards, > Timothy Heitz - not Ph.d > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - From: "David R. Vann" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 1:16 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] OT -Oil reserves, the reality > > > > > > Thought maybe it was time to change the thread title, > and maybe stop this > > non-meteorite thread. In truth, I am responding to > correct some factually > > inaccurate statements. > > > > Guido, I respectfully suggest that you investigate the > facts before you make > > statements like "We are played for fools by the career > politicians in Washington > > who pander to the environmentalists and prevent us > from tapping our own reserves > > which are larger and easier to obtain than all the oil > in the Middle East. > > That's why we object to increased pump prices." > > > > Politicians are not pandering to environmentalists, > they are pandering to > > businesses, I think the events of the last thirty > years speak very strongly to > > this; attacks on the Clean Air and Clean water acts, > the Great Recession, the > > Savings and Loan disaster, the Energy trading frauds, > etc. (I can go on for > > quite a while here, but is not the forum). > > Environmentalists have very little influence on the > price of oil, if any. > > Rather, market forces determine this entirely. > Examples: in the late '70's oil > > did not skyrocket because of environmentalists, it did > so because OPEC was > > flexing its newfound muscle. Oil prices did not jump > prior to the Great > > Recession because of environmentalists; it jumped > because of speculators and > > because the oil refiners underestimated demand by > China and India, resulting in > > inadequte production capacity (there was plenty of > crude oil). The cost of oil > > is related to the cost of drilling; I could, again, go > on, but this isn't really > > the forum. Suffice it to say, the price of oil is > driven by market factors that > > are *not* related to supply, as the supply can be (and > frequently is) increased > > to meet demand. > > > > So, environmentalists atempting to reduce drilling are > not affecting the price, > > regardless of how one wants to view it. Most recently, > the state of Florida, > > under a Republican govorner, decided to limit in-shore > drilling to protect the > > states' fishing and tourist industries. They were > deemed more valuable (to the > > state) than the short-term gains from onshore drilling > - an economic argument, > > not an environmental one. > > > > Our oil prices are lower because we consume so much, > getting a discount, and > > because we subsidize the oil companies with tax > dollars. Government subsidies > > for profitable companies are not defensible, yet they > keep getting them, because > > the politicians are pandering to the industries paying > for their reelection. > > > > > > The final inaccuracy, " tapping our own reserves which > are larger and easier to > > obtain than all the oil in the Middle East" is the > most egregious. This is > > simply wrong. The proven resources in the US are about > 22 billion barrels of > > oil; Saudi arabia *alone* has an es
Re: [meteorite-list] List of meteorites from Vesta?
Dunite is the "Earth version" of Tatahouine. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Thu, 4/7/11, tracy latimer wrote: > From: tracy latimer > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] List of meteorites from Vesta? > To: > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Thursday, April 7, 2011, 3:31 AM > > I had thought that dunites were Martian, like Chassigny. > Have dunites been identified from other sources? > > Best! > Tracy Latimer > > > > Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 22:58:02 -0400 > > From: meteoritem...@gmail.com > > To: fips_br...@yahoo.de > > CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] List of meteorites from > Vesta? > > > > Hi Regine, > > > > All HEDOD meteorites are assumed to be Vestan in > origin - Howardite, > > Eucrite, Diogenite, Olivine diogenite, and Dunite. :) > > > > Best regards, > > > > MikeG > > > > > -- > > Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks > Meteorites > > > > Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com > > Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone > > News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 > > Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone > > EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 > > > --- > > > > On 4/6/11, Regine Petersen wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Is there a list of assumed Vesta meteorites? > > > > > > Regine > > > __ > > > Visit the Archives at > > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > > > -- > > > -- > > Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks > Meteorites > > > > Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com > > Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone > > News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 > > Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone > > EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 > > > --- > > __ > > Visit the Archives at > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] So all meteorites are illegal?
I agree with Richard, and also if you do contact him, be very polite. He has done a good amount of research on meteorites and is a nice person to talk with. I wanted to post about my discussion with him so others knew his comments were out of context. After reading the article then researching him, I shocked me he would have such a strong stance and opinion based on his work he has done. Hope everyone is doing good today, Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Mon, 4/4/11, Richard Kowalski wrote: > From: Richard Kowalski > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] So all meteorites are illegal? > To: "meteorite list" > Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 4:06 PM > Greg, > > I'm glad you spoke with the source, Dr. Harvey. Its good to > hear he was mis-quoted. I believe that to my core. > > As someone who has been interviewed many times over the > past decade, even being allowed to read and comment on copy > before it goes to print (believe me, a hugely rare event!) > the editor has the final say and can and often does change > and rewrite the article. > > I've had writers toil over getting the facts correct only > to have the article full of mistakes. The facts got in the > way of a good story. > > I'd urge anyone wishing to contact Dr. Harvey, take a day > and email him tomorrow. Or in several days. I'm sure he is > getting inundated with calls and emails about this from the > community. Knowing how busy he probably is, I have no doubt > he may be regretting commenting about this just because of > the time sink it could become. > > Cheers > > -- > Richard Kowalski > Full Moon Photography > IMCA #1081 > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] So all meteorites are illegal?
I just spoke with Dr Ralph Harvey a little bit about his quotes. Given his research and history, I wanted to better understand his comments. It seems his comments were taken out of context to some degree (so he states) and mentioned to me he was speaking to meteorites recovered without proper export permits and documentation (specifically mentioned Egypt) from countries that do not allow export that are openly offered for sale - even by IMCA members. I know this is a heated issue and there is a lot of opinions, but I think this is something we need to address... there are even websites that claim NWA meteorites help terrorism! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Mon, 4/4/11, Richard Kowalski wrote: > From: Richard Kowalski > Subject: [meteorite-list] So all meteorites are illegal? > To: "meteorite list" > Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 3:31 PM > Thanks Dirk for posting your links. > > A direct one to the NY Times article > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/05/science/05meteorite.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&hp > > An interesting quote: > “It’s a black market,” said Ralph P. Harvey, a > geologist at Case Western Reserve University who directs the > federal search for meteorites in Antarctica. “It’s as > organized as any drug trade and just as illegal.” > > Either Dr. Harvey is mis-informed, mis-quoted or is in the > camp of misinformed scientists that believe meteorite > ownership should be illegal to all. > > > Good to see Anne B quoted in the article > > -- > Richard Kowalski > Full Moon Photography > IMCA #1081 > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites and Thin sections for sale!
HI to all, hope everyone is doing good. I am clearing out some material and am offering a nice sale - Lunar Thin sections - $150.00 Tatahouine thin sections - $80.00 NWA 6292 thin sections... paired with NWA 5400 - $150.00 NWA CO3 thin sections - $100.00 Thuathe $6 per gram Tatahouine $12 per gram and up (depending on fragment size) Camel Donga $16 per gram Sikhote Alin individuals, very nice features $3 per gram NWA 1465 $8 per gram NWA 869 $1.50 per gram Pics on request. Thanks for looking. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?
I think it would be an awesome time for us all to post a picture or two of small sub gram complete fusion crusted stones we have in our collection. Would be very neat to see some of what everyone has! Here is another of my sub gram complete crusted stones. Mifflin .90g http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Mifflin90g.jpg Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Tue, 3/29/11, Michael Gilmer wrote: > From: Michael Gilmer > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite? > To: "meteoriteguy.com" > Cc: "Chris Spratt" , > "meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" > Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 4:14 PM > Hi List, > > My two smallest "complete" meteorites are Chergach > peas. One weighs > 436mg (but has a chip in the crust) and the other is 787mg > and is 100% > crusted. > > I'd post photos, but both of camera batteries are dead, so > I'll post > some photos of them later. :) > > Mike Farmer - those Bensours sound like BB's instead of > peas. :) > > Best regards and happy huntings, > > MikeG > > -- > Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites > > Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com > Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone > News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 > Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone > EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 > --- > > > > On 3/29/11, meteoriteguy.com > wrote: > > I have 100% crusted Bensour stones way under 1/10th > gram. > > Michael Farmer > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Mar 29, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Chris Spratt > wrote: > > > >> Revelstoke BC - Type: CI fell March 31, > 1965. > >> Two small fragments about one gram total. > >> > >> Vilna Alberta - L5. Fell Feb. 5, 1967. > >> Two small crusted fragments 48mg and 94mg. > >> > >> Probably one of those is the smallest meteorite > fall. > >> > >> Chris Spratt > >> Victoria BC > >> (Via my iPhone) > >> __ > >> Visit the Archives at > >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > >> Meteorite-list mailing list > >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > > Visit the Archives at > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > -- > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite?
I picked up the smallest complete (I consider complete to mean fully crusted) individual of Chergach I have ever seen. Its fully crusted, oriented and has a roll over lip. It weighs in at 0.14 grams. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5004-4.jpg Hope everyone is doing well. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Tue, 3/29/11, Jeff Grossman wrote: > From: Jeff Grossman > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete Meteorite? > To: "'Meteorite List'" > Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 2:13 PM > Of course, there is a continuum of > meteorite sizes down through > micrometeorites to dust, all of which have been collected > on Earth. The > smallest named meteorite found on Earth may be Yamato 8333, > at 10 mg. There > are perhaps a dozen more, all Antarctic, below 100 mg. > > In Rubin and Grossman (2010), we assert that > micrometeorites are meteorites, > and we set the lower size limit for micrometeorites at 10 > micrometers. Such > a particle, if chondritic, would weigh a few > nanograms. So I would > therefore assert that the smallest collected meteorite > weighs ~1 ng. > > The word "complete" is the difficult part of this > question. I don't know > what it means. > > Jeff > > > -Original Message- > > From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > [mailto:meteorite- > > list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] > On Behalf Of MEM > > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 1:22 PM > > To: Michael Gilmer; Ruben Garcia > > Cc: Meteorite List > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete > Meteorite? > > > > I believe there was a .3 gram Canadian find on a snow > bank. It was only > > noticed > > by virtue of the contrast and if I recall the > finder was a > > technician/scientist > > in the astronomy/space program field(???) walking out > of his work to go > > home. I > > don't know the name or where-abouts, I only recall > reading the story. > > This > > would so far as I know be the smallest find/fall > single stone class ever > > documented. > > > > Elton > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > > From: Michael Gilmer > > > To: Ruben Garcia > > > Cc: Meteorite List > > > Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 12:58:45 PM > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Smallest Complete > Meteorite? > > > > > > Hi Ruben and List, > > > > > > That is an awesome little Holbrook. I have > a Chergach pea that is > > > only a little bigger than your Holbrook pea. > > > > > > I'm not sure if a spheroid counts as a > meteorite, but I have a vial > > > full of CD spheroids and some of them are > much smaller than a poppy > > > seed. > > > > > > Best regards and happy huntings, > > > > > > MikeG > > > > > > -- > > > > -- > > > Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & > Ironworks Meteorites > > > > > > Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com > > > Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone > > > News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 > > > Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone > > > EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of- > > meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 > > > > -- > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/29/11, Ruben Garcia > wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > After seeing this tiny Holbrook meteorite I > found - I started > > > > wondering. What is the smallest > complete meteorite? > > > > > > > > Here's mine > > > > > > >http://s260.photobucket.com/albums/ii35/meteoritemall/?action=view&curr > > ent=met006.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > This one has got to be in the > running... > > > > > > > > This tiny individual plus two more > (all about the same size) > > combined > > > > don't even weigh a tenth of a gram on > my scale. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Rock On! > > > > > > > > Ruben Garcia > > > > > > > > Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net > &
Re: [meteorite-list] Polished Butts - pics of mine... lol.
Anne is correct.
Here is a few pictures of one of my polished butts...
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5309-1.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5310-1.jpg
I keep them after thin section making, its a good way to pass around meteorites
to kids to hold and check out.
Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
IMCA member 4682
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--- On Mon, 3/28/11, impact...@aol.com wrote:
> From: impact...@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Polished Butts - Toliet humor aside, what
> exactly are th...
> To: jimsk...@aol.com, meteoritem...@gmail.com,
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Monday, March 28, 2011, 5:12 PM
> No toilet humor here.
> It is a chunk of meteorite encased in epoxy, polished, and
> from which
> thin-sections are cut.
> I prefer to call them "cores".
> Less possibility of misunderstanding.
>
> Anne M. Black
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>
> President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
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>
>
> In a message dated 3/28/2011 2:59:26 PM Mountain Daylight
> Time,
> jimsk...@aol.com
> writes:
> My guess would be that it's a polished endcut.
>
> Jim K
>
>
> In a message dated 3/28/2011 3:54:41 P.M. Central Daylight
> Time,
> meteoritem...@gmail.com
> writes:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I have seen several references to "polished butts" in
> the Met
> Bulletin. For example, from this recent entry
> (NWA 6580) approved
> yesterday -
>
> "Type specimens available at Cascadia include 1 piece
> originally 20.0
> g, from which one polished thin section and one
> polished butt were
> made. Thompson holds the main mass."
>
> I did the usual Google Search ("polished butt") to find
> out what this
> was, and you don't want to know what the results of that
> search were.
> Let's just say, that is has nothing to do with meteorites
> or thin
> sections.
>
> So I have to ask the List - what is a polished butt?
>
> Best regards,
>
> MikeG
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil
Prices are interesting with the meteorite. I do know that most of the material on the market is "stolen" and should not be sold. Egypt does not allow the export of meteorites and last I read, only about 2kg was approved for export. Its a nice meteorite, but should be considered illegal just like Berduc and others that come from countries with harsh export laws. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Fri, 3/11/11, Richard Montgomery wrote: > From: Richard Montgomery > Subject: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil > To: "'Meteorite-list List'" > Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 9:13 PM > Hello List. Taking a breath for > a minute following the disaster in Japan, for welcome > relief (yet God bless them please) I'll ask about > this since I've been wondering for a while since the crater > was announced: > > Do we yet have an estimated TKW of Gebel Kamil? Also, > those first images of the couple (I've only seen two) of > complete regmaglypted individuals are somewhere unknown to > me, but wow!! Which reflects on my next query...what > other 'individual-shrapnel' occurance events to we know of? > > I'm fortunate to own a few nice sand-blasted pieces, as > many of us are. The auction prices seem low to me. > > Just curious, and wondering. > > -Richard Montgomery > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
