Re: [meteorite-list] Campo crystals
Thanks Mike (and everyone else who replied) I haven't heard that before - would the explosion cause localised melting, I wonder? As you say, it is sad to think of all those Campos being blown up. Regards, Kieron -Original Message- From: Mike Bandli [mailto:fuzzf...@comcast.net] Sent: 22 November 2012 16:36 To: 'Kieron Heard'; 'Meteorite-List' Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Campo crystals A couple years ago we spoke to a vendor from South America at Electric Park (Tucson show) who had Campos for sale. We noticed that he was selling Campos that had strange marks that looked like welding marks. He told us that they were holes that had been drilled and later refilled with Campo/welding material. The reason? He said the holes were refilled because they ran out of C4 to make Campo crystals. Apparently they used to bore a hole in the iron, fill it full of C4, bury it deep in the ground, then BOOM! Campo crystals were born. I do not recall if cryo/freezing was involved. He had at least a dozen Campos that had these welded holes. It was an interesting conversation to say the least. Kind of sad and amusing at the same time. Happy Thanksgiving all! Mike Bandli -- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 --- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Kieron Heard Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:01 PM To: Meteorite-List Subject: [meteorite-list] Campo crystals Hi Folks, Can anyone explain to me the process used to make so-called Campo del Cielo 'crystals'? The usual explanation, that they are made by shattering larger pieces than have been supercooled with liquid nitrogen, does not convince me. If that were the case I would expect more geometric forms with sharp edges. However, many examples are quite rounded and look as though they have been (recently) molten. I would be grateful for any observations. Regards, Kieron __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Campo crystals
Hi Folks, Can anyone explain to me the process used to make so-called Campo del Cielo 'crystals'? The usual explanation, that they are made by shattering larger pieces than have been supercooled with liquid nitrogen, does not convince me. If that were the case I would expect more geometric forms with sharp edges. However, many examples are quite rounded and look as though they have been (recently) molten. I would be grateful for any observations. Regards, Kieron __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Paper on the historic Rowton (UK)ironmeteorite fall required
Hi Martin, Of course, if you want to see the original document I could bring it with me in April :-) Cheers, Kieron -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]On Behalf Of Mark Grossman Sent: 23 March 2011 00:49 To: Mark's Meteorites; e-mail ensoramanda Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; martin goff Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Paper on the historic Rowton (UK)ironmeteorite fall required Go to the following link, select page 885, and you should be able to read the article on line. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k55978m/f961.image.r=philosophical+tran sactions+royal+society+1881.langEN Mark Grossman Meteorite Manuscripts Briarcliff Manor, NY USA http://meteoritemanuscripts.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/MetManuscripts http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Meteorite-Manuscripts/152949358073543?v=wal l - Original Message - From: Mark's Meteorites m...@meteorites.cc To: e-mail ensoramanda ensorama...@ntlworld.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; martin goff msgmeteori...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Paper on the historic Rowton (UK) ironmeteorite fall required I wouldn't mind a copy as well! On 23 Mar 2011, at 00:14, e-mail ensoramanda wrote: Think I read through the report...or some of it... just before I visited the Cranbourne strewnfield lastwill try and remember where and attempt to track it down again. Cheers, Graham On 22 March 2011 20:53, martin goff msgmeteori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Does anyone have a copy of the following paper by Walter Flight: 'Report of an Examination of the Meteorites of Cranbourne, Australia; of Rowton, Shropshire; and of Middlesbrough, in Yorkshire' published by the Royal Society of London Any help much appreciated! Cheers Martin -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A chance photo discovery
Thanks for that, Darren. I found it particularly interesting because I started my own archaeological career in the early 80s in a similar way. Here in the UK the Manpower Services Commission set up job creation schemes for the long-term unemployed. Not that I am drawing comparisons between America's Great Depression and Thatcherite Britain! Regards, Kieron -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]On Behalf Of Darren Garrison Sent: 26 February 2011 01:38 To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] A chance photo discovery I was browsing through a PDF of photos of New Deal WPA activities, when on page 33 I found Archeological digs employed WPA labor, including this excavation at the site of the Odessa meteor crater in Ector County, Texas. http://www.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/pdfs/ppDIRwpa.pdf __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] casting meteorites
By coincidence, I contacted Dave today on a similar matter and I am sure he will be able to oblige. Regards, Kieron -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]On Behalf Of Gary Fujihara Sent: 09 February 2011 16:40 To: Steve Dunklee Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] casting meteorites Aloha Steve, My cast of the Middlesborough was done by GeoEd Ltd of Cornwall, United Kingdom. You can contact Dave to inquire: GeoEd fos...@geoed.co.uk\ gary On Feb 9, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Steve Dunklee wrote: Does anyone have a source to have a cast done of an oriented meteorite before cutting? Cheers Steve Dunklee Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] report of the Geislingen (Germany) meteoritehunt
A good report, Rob. Sorry to see that you didn't have any luck. Regards, Kieron -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]On Behalf Of Rob Lenssen Sent: 24 January 2011 21:41 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] report of the Geislingen (Germany) meteoritehunt Broken Link... Second try: http://www.asteroidchippings.com/Special_topics/Meteorite_hunt_Geislingen.ht ml Enjoy! Rob Lenssen -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens Rob Lenssen Verzonden: maandag 24 januari 2011 22:38 Aan: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Onderwerp: [meteorite-list] report of the Geislingen (Germany) meteorite hunt Hi List, With respect to the Jan. 8th bolide above Southern Germany: I prepared a short report of subsequent meteorite hunt by German Meteorite Forum members: http://www.asteroidchippings.com/Special_topics/Meteorite_hunt_Geislingen.ht ml Enjoy! Rob Lenssen __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dodgy auction for Barbotan
No, that can't be Shawn. His pieces are never that big :-) In jest, Kieron -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on Behalf Of martin goff Sent: 30 November 2010 10:22 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Dodgy auction for Barbotan Shawn and list, Some one is ripping off your auctions Shawn and also using your IMCA number See link below: (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120653596499ssPageNam e=STRK:MEWAX:IT) Cheers Martin -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thin section versa reflected light microscopepictures
Thanks Uwe, I enjoyed your collection of images very much. Regards, Kieron -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on Behalf Of m42protosun Sent: 25 November 2010 20:22 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Thin section versa reflected light microscopepictures Hello list, depending of microscope exposures most people think about thin section. They show nice colors and sometimes special structures well used for petrogaphic studies. But there is an other possibility to study the micro structure of minerals, - the use of a reflecting light microscope with polarising and color selecting filters. This images are ever very colorful too and this colors are mostly real. Reflecting microscope studies allow you to detect on a certain slice thousands of regions, - day for day new structures and if you have seen enough you must turn your probe only an a certain angle and the microworld you see is every time a new one. Welcome to the amazing microscopic meteorite world of Uwe Figge Look at http://www.flickr.com/photos/inside_of_meteorites/sets/72157625356287024/ Ohne Brief, aber mit Siegel. Mit Telekom De-Mail vertraulich und rechtsverbindlich online kommunizieren. Jetzt voranmelden! www.telekom.de/de-mail __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bristol Daytime Fireball? real or hoax?
Hello Dirk, To me, this looks more like a sun dog. Regards, Kieron -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on Behalf Of drtanuki Sent: 01 September 2010 04:07 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Global Meteor Observing Forum Subject: [meteorite-list] Bristol Daytime Fireball? real or hoax? Dear List, I have just posted: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2010/09/latest-worldwide-meteormet eorite-news.html Comments please. Thank you. Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men on American Chopper Thursday on TLC
Hello Steve, Would that be London, England you are filming in? If so, I am intrigued. Might one ask the purpose of your visit? Hope I haven't missed the latest UK fall :-) Regards, Kieron (Suffolk, UK) -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on Behalf Of meteorh...@aol.com Sent: 31 August 2010 16:39 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men on American Chopper Thursday on TLC All, Greetings from Sunny London. Finally a break in our shooting of the second season of Meteorite Men, just in time to get home to watch some TV. Just as a quick heads up, Geoff and I are going to be guests on American Chopper this Thursday on TLC. For those who don't know, we get our meteorite bike from Orange County Choppers so it should be fun. Steve Arnold Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:48:18 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites, TO BE OR NOT TO BE? Hi Shawn, I think, you can answer some of your questions by yourself. Outstretch your arm. On your extended arm look on the tip of your little finger. The finger nail of your pinky is the Earth. Imagine, your room has no walls - or go in the garden. 250 yards away from your fingernail, that's where the meteorites come from. So it's possibly not so important, where exactly on your fingernail they will hit. ...and as strained you'll squint your eyes, it's impossible to match a Shawn, a Mike, an Aziz, a Martin, a Bevan... on your nail :-) Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Shawn Alan Gesendet: Dienstag, 31. August 2010 03:25 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites, TO BE OR NOT TO BE? Hello Listers, I was doing an Internet search today on meteorites and came across a write up about NWA meteorites. I would have to say it was a good write up considering there isn't much about the history of NWA's on the Internet. The write up covered topics from the NWA gold rush, to how this affected sales and peoples desert meteorite collections, and how NWA meteorites by some can be seen as inferior to other meteorites. All these points do bring up some interesting view points in the meteorite community. I wonder what peoples take is on NWA meteorites and how the classification works or doesn't work with some finds? Why I ask this is because some of the NWA meteorites on eBay are NWA xxx meteorites, meaning those meteorites haven't been classified and probably wont. Now to me for every NWA meteorite excluding the Lunar and Martian meteorites could be almost unique in its owe if there is only a select few people that get these stones classified, making the NWA meteorite market confusing and regulated by only classifying certain meteorites and disregarding others. And as for selling NWA meteorites how does one determine the price point when the TKW and location is unknown? Is it to be or not to be when collecting NWA meteorites. this draw back could affect the classification and make it more confusing compared to finds in the US and Europe. If I went to the Muffin strewn field and found some meteorites, I wouldn't have to get them classified because of the documentation of a fall being there. But on the other hand, if I went to Africa and found some meteorites I would be SOL and the only way I could know what the meteorite was is if I got it classified, which I am not sure how much that costs, but I bet it can be a pretty penny depending what your getting done on it. Now could this be a problem in some peoples eyes why they think NWA's might be questionable because locations cant be accountable? And from a collectors stand point what features does one collect NWA's? From my take it seems like that some NWA meteorite are unique in its own way by rarity or uniqueness cause of lack there of, and because of the way NWA's are collected, cant this affecting price point and investment for ones collection? Here is an abstract from the write up about NWA's NWAs: Second Class Meteorites? By Norbert Classen, May 2003 On the collector's market, the prices of most Northwest African meteorites are still dropping while witnessed falls and historic specimens are getting more expensive. Are NWA meteorites less valuable, or is it a subliminal form of chauvinism making some people treat them like second class meteorites? The NWA Dilemma In the late 1990s, an increasing number of meteorites from the hot deserts of northwest Africa hit the market, most of them having been recovered by so-called nomads, i.e. by native people from Morocco and Western Sahara. After having
Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kemil article in New Scientist
Much food for thought there, Matt. I was particularly struck by the following statement attributed to Philip Bland: If they don't do it [analyse meteorites for dealers] then the meteorites will remain solely in private hands, sitting in a collection. The meteorites would be never seen again. It has been said before, but how many of the meteorites languishing in museum stores will ever be seen by the public? I'll bet my modest collection has the potential to reach a wider audience and generate more interest than some of those held by public bodies. Regards, Kieron -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on Behalf Of Matt Smith Sent: 05 August 2010 19:40 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kemil article in New Scientist An article on the controversy regarding the recent Gebel Kemil find: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20727724.000-deep-impact-market-the-ra ce-to-acquire-meteorites.html or http://bit.ly/ct9U42 Regarding the legal situation it states: In Egypt, permission is supposed to be required to export meteorites. Di Martino and colleagues were authorised to take just 20 kilograms of Gebel Kamil out of the country. Everything which is found in the Egyptian soil is property of the government, explains Tarek Hussein, who as former president of Egypt's Academy of Scientific Research and Technology was responsible for handling export applications until last April. He is concerned that many Gebel Kamil fragments that have appeared on the market in the west were not approved for export. Matt. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Recent 'fall' in Sussex, UK
Hi Folks, Those of you who have been wondering about the recent report of a meteorite fall during a cricket match in Sussex can find further information here: http://www.bimsociety.org/ Regards, Kieron __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Bonham's auction
Hello Folks, Here is an interesting one - an NWA meteorite from the Mohave Desert! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/picturesoftheday/7690889/Pi ctures-of-the-day-7-May-2010.html?image=17 A visit to Bonham's website confirmed that the name should read NWA 4857. Even then I am a little confused - the stone being auction is described as whole and fusion crusted, with a mass of 3.64g, but the MetSoc database describes NWA 4857 as a single stone of 24g. Something doesn't add up. Regards, Kieron __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wanted AD - Wold Cottage
Hello Folks, I am keen to acquire a sample of Wold Cottage before visiting the site at Easter. If anyone here has a piece to offer (1 gram or above) please could they contact me off-list. Regards, Kieron Heard, Suffolk, UK __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
