Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite 20 Questions - Answer and Share if youDare. :)

2010-07-28 Thread Stuart McDaniel - Action Shooting Supply


Stuart McDaniel
Lawndale, NC
Secr.,
Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society
- Original Message - 


1) When did you start collecting? (how long ago)May 2009

2) What first interested you about meteorites?I could actually hold 
something from space!!


3) What was your first meteorite purchase, and from whom?NWAxxx from 
John (moonman)


4) How many meteorites or localities do you currently have in your 
collection?63


5) If you had to know for insurance purposes, what do you value your
entire collection at? - in dollars - ballpark figure OK, or just say
none of your business.+/- 2000.00

6) What is your favorite meteorite and why?Either my 
Brenham(pallasites are the coolest!!)) or Almahatta Sitta(Unique)


7) Have you ever found a meteorite in the field?No

8) Did you ever get the deal of a lifetime on a meteorite?  If so, what 
was it?A Dry Lake from Steve Arnold (MetMan)


9) Did you ever go through the ordeal of a lifetime to obtain aNo
meteorite?  If so, please explain.

10) Have you ever consumed meteoritic material?  (If so, how or under
what circumstances?)Hell no, it cost too much!!!

11) Does your spouse share your meteorite passion, is ambivalent
towards it, or resents it?Appreciates it.

12) Have you ever let a bill go unpaid or late to buy a meteorite? 
No (not yet) LOL!!


13) A perfectly oriented, fully crusted, baseball-sized, lunar
meteorite crashes through your roof and lands in your lap while you
are reading this.  It's the most gorgeous aesthetically-superior
specimen you have ever seen - like Lafayette, but better.  It legally
belongs to you.  What do you do with it?


   Do the Meteorite Dance also, send a sample for 
analysis, probably donate some samples, sell a few, and keep a BIG hunk


14) Statistics have caught up with someone.  Anne Hodges will no
longer be the only documented person to be struck by a falling
meteorite.  Assuming the next person struck could be anyone and you
could pick that person, who would it be?  (silly answers only, nothing
mean or political)ME, ME, ME, ME 

15) You are awarded the honor of selecting one specimen to keep from
any meteorite collection in the world.  What would it be? 
ALMAHATTA SITTA


16) Have you ever sold or donated your entire collection, and then had
to rebuild it?  Absolutely NOT!!!

17) Summarize what you think about tektites in one sentence.  The look 
like turds. :^)


18) Which do you prefer - thin sections, whole specimens, slices, or 
endcuts?WHOLE


19) Do you collect meteorwrongs?NO

20) Have you ever dropped a tiny crumb of a rare meteorite and lost it? 
ALMOST,  LOST A PIECE OF MY TAGISH LAKE


--

Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone  Ironworks Meteorites
http://www.galactic-stone.com
http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone

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Re: [meteorite-list] Scientist Warns Massive Asteroid Could Hit Earthin 2182

2010-07-28 Thread Stuart McDaniel - Action Shooting Supply
Not a mathematician are you?? LOL..it's 172 years. Bet that will 
make a nice strewn field!!!


Stuart McDaniel
Lawndale, NC
Secr.,
Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society
- Original Message - 
From: Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 6:23 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Scientist Warns Massive Asteroid Could Hit Earthin 
2182




Wow - that's only 72 years from now... Don't think I'll be around

Greg S.


http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/07/28/massive-asteroid-hit-earth-warn-scientists/?test=faces



Scientist Warns Massive Asteroid Could Hit Earth in 2182

A large asteroid in space that has a remote chance of slamming into the 
Earth would be most likely hit in 2182, if it crashed into our planet at 
all, a new study suggests.


The asteroid, called 1999 RQ36, has about a 1-in-1,000 chance of actually 
hitting the Earth, but half of that risk corresponds to potential impacts in 
the year 2182, said study co-author MarĂ­a Eugenia Sansaturio of the 
Universidad de Valladolid in Spain.


Sansaturio and her colleagues used mathematical models to determine the risk 
of asteroid 1999 RQ36 impacting the Earth through the year 2200. They found 
two potential opportunities for the asteroid to hit Earth in 2182.


The research is detailed in the science journal Icarus.

The asteroid was discovered in 1999 and is about 1,837 feet (560 meters) 
across. A space rock this size could cause widespread devastation at an 
impact site in the remote chance that it hit Earth, according to a recent 
report by the National Academy of Sciences.



Scientists have tracked asteroid 1999 RQ36's orbit through 290 optical 
observations and 13 radar surveys, but there is still some uncertainty 
because of the gentle push it receives from the so-called Yarkovsky effect, 
researchers said.


The Yarkovsky effect, named after the Russian engineer I.O. Yarkovsky who 
proposed it around 1900, describes how an asteroid gains momentum from 
thermal radiation that it emits from its night side. Over hundreds of years, 
the effect's influence on an asteroid's orbit could be substantial.


Sansaturio and her colleagues found that through 2060, the chances of Earth 
impacts from 1999 RQ36 are remote, but the odds increase by a magnitude of 
four by 2080 as the asteroid's orbit brings it closer to the Earth.


The odds of impact then dip as the asteroid would move away, and rise in 
2162 and 2182, when it swings back near Earth, the researchers found. It's a 
tricky orbital dance that makes it difficult to pin down the odds of impact, 
they said.


The consequence of this complex dynamic is not just the likelihood of a 
comparatively large impact, but also that a realistic deflection procedure 
(path deviation) could only be made before the impact in 2080, and more 
easily, before 2060, Sansaturio said in a statement.


After 2080, she added, it would be more difficult to deflect the asteroid.

If this object had been discovered after 2080, the deflection would require 
a technology that is not currently available, Sansaturio said. Therefore, 
this example suggests that impact monitoring, which up to date does not 
cover more than 80 or 100 years, may need to encompass more than one 
century.


By expanding the timeframe for potential impacts, researchers would 
potentially identify the most threatening space rocks with enough time to 
mount deflection campaigns that are both technologically and financially 
feasible, Sansaturio said.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Damn! I shoulda gone beach combing!

2010-05-24 Thread Stuart McDaniel - Action Shooting Supply
I saw that on the news tonight. That is exactly where we stayed a couple 
years ago, Palmetto Dunes, Hilton Head, SC.


Strange thing about it I noticed. There is no burn marks from reentry!!! 
Shouldn't there be???



Stuart McDaniel
Lawndale, NC
Secr., CCAS
- Original Message - 
From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net

To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:39 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Damn! I shoulda gone beach combing!



Washed up on a South Carolina beach (I'm in SC)

http://www.wmbfnews.com/Global/story.asp?S=12534303

The next trick would have been driving around 250 miles home with that 
strapped

to the roof...
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Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Probable launch debris recovered from SouthCarolina

2010-05-24 Thread Stuart McDaniel - Action Shooting Supply
OK guys I might be onto something here..look at this picture of 
the super secret X-37B that was launched at KSC in April

http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagedisplay/img_display.php?pic=x37b-shroud-100421-02.jpgcap=The+U.S.+Air+Force%27s+X-37B+Orbital+Test+Vehicle+is+shown+inside+its+payload+fairing+during+encapsulation+at+the+Astrotech+facility+in+Titusville%2C+Fla.%2C+ahead+of+a+planned+April+2010+launch+from+Cape+Canaveral+Air+Force+Station+in+Florida.+Credit%3A+USAF

Panels inside look JUST LIKE the debris that washed up.

http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/x-37b-space-plane-orbital-spy-100519.html

http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20100524/sc_space/secretx37bspaceplanespottedbyamateurskywatchers


What do ya think???



Stuart McDaniel
Lawndale, NC
Secr., CCAS
- Original Message - 
From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 8:20 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: Probable launch debris recovered from 
SouthCarolina




Darren posted:


Washed up on a South Carolina beach (I'm in SC)



http://www.wmbfnews.com/Global/story.asp?S=12534303



The next trick would have been driving around 250 miles home
with that strapped to the roof...


Worth a pretty penny to space debris collectors, to be sure.

However, the conjecture at the end of the article can be easily
dismissed:

According to the BBC, an Ariane 5 rocket launched from French Guiana
in northern South America just three days ago. No word yet on if the
debris came from that rocket.

It really doesn't take a rocket scientist to rule this out. Sure,
the Ariane 5 launch was May 21 and the debris washed ashore on
May 22. However, this was an eastern launch out of Kourou since
they were going to geosynchronous orbit. Kind of hard to get a
booster section from equatorial waters to the beaches of South
Carolina in 24 hours. This had to have come from an older launch --
*assuming* it's space launch debris.

The most recent Kourou launch prior to last Friday was Helios IIB
on an Ariane 5GS on December 18th. Unlike the May 24th launch, this
is a possible candidate for two reasons: (1) it allows sufficient
time for SRB debris to drift to the U.S. East Coast, and (2) the
Helios launch went into sunsynchronous (polar) orbit, which means
it launched north out of French Guiana. Unlike the solids on the
U.S. Space Shuttle, the Ariane 5 SRB's are not reusable and are
usually allowed to sink to the bottom of the ocean. Occasionally
they will be fitted with parachutes and recovered for diagnostic
purposes. (I don't happen to know if they attempted this on the
Helios IIB launch or not.)  --Rob
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Re: [meteorite-list] WI fall price...wow!

2010-05-09 Thread Stuart McDaniel - Action Shooting Supply

Heck, I just paid $.00/gr for an Almahatta Sitta!!!

(i.e.  $40.00 for a 12mg frag or $3.33/mg  x 1000 = $.00/gr)!!!


Stuart McDaniel
Lawndale, NC
Secr., CCAS
- Original Message - 
From: Steve Witt stelo...@yahoo.com
To: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
ensorama...@ntlworld.com

Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] WI fall price...wow!



Graham and List,

This is not the highest price. Right after the fall Steve Arnold sold 17 
pieces of this same material at an average price of $244.74 per gram.


Regards,
Steve


Steve Witt
IMCA #9020
http://imca.cc/


--- On Sat, 5/8/10, ensorama...@ntlworld.com ensorama...@ntlworld.com 
wrote:



From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com ensorama...@ntlworld.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] WI fall price...wow!
To: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Date: Saturday, May 8, 2010, 6:21 AM
Highest price I have seen so
far...amazing what difference being a 'hammer' makes! Great
find Michael.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200466135832ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:GB:1123

I'm amazed that some of the farmers/locals out there havn't
tried putting some of their own on ebay...perhaps they will
if they see this?

Graham, UK


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Re: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorite Name?

2010-05-09 Thread Stuart McDaniel - Action Shooting Supply

As for a name, what about LWI 001??


Stuart McDaniel
Lawndale, NC
Secr., CCAS
- Original Message - 
From: Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca

To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorite Name?


Hope my specimens arrive in the mail before it gets officially 
named/classified! Things have been kinda slow over the past couple of 
weeks from the US into Canada..


---
Melanie
IMCA: 2975
eBay: metmel2775
Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09

Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know 
what you're gonna get!




- Original Message 
From: Jeff Grossman jgross...@usgs.gov
To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sun, May 9, 2010 1:06:26 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorite Name?

I tried to send this yesterday, but it seems to have not gotten through...
--
There are many factors considered in naming a meteorite.  It is rare for 
the NomCom to pick its own name out of the blue.  It usually serves as 
more of a review panel than anything else.  Some consideration is given to 
the finder, to the first person to describe the meteorite, to commercial 
usage, to the distribution of find locations, etc.  In this case, I don't 
know what will happen.  If there has been contact with the committee, I 
don't know about it yet and no proposals are on the table at this time. 
But I know the classification has been done.


Jeff


On 2010-05-09 7:41 AM, Jeff Kuyken wrote:

Hi Michael and all,

Actually you are wrong. Obviously the original submitter gets a say or 
else how do they choose the name?! And yes... the Nom Com gets the final 
say but they need the recommendations to start with and that comes from 
the submitting party. I recommend you read Jeff Grossman's post regarding 
West/Ash Creek:


http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2009-April/051836.html

Cheers,

Jeff


- Original Message - From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net
To: Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au; Meteorite List 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 3:04 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorite Name?



Hi Jeff and all,
   My understanding is that the naming of all meteorites is at
the sole discretion of the Nomenclature committee of the
Meteoritical Society. The original finder is irrelevant. I believe
anyone is free to suggest a name, but my experience is that such
suggestions carry little, if any, weight.
   However, the list is fortunate in having a former member
Of the Nomenclature Committee, Jeff Grossman as a member
Of the list. He would most certainly know better than any of
Us the specifics involved in naming a new fall.
   Michael


On 5/8/10 4:46 AM, Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au wrote:

Exactly. I think past falls have shown us that there is no point trying 
to
push one name over another. Amgala... ooops I mean Oum Dreyga is a 
perfect
example of that and dare I mention West... ooops... sorry... Ash Creek! 
;-)


Anyhow, I thought it was generally the first person submitting the
classification/meteorite who got the rights (within reason).

Cheers,

Jeff


- Original Message -
From: al mitt alm...@kconline.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorite Name?



Greetings,

It will be called what the Nomenclature Committee decides to name it 
as
naming has always been done in the past. Dr. Jeff Grossman made 
mention
the name Livingston would probably not be used due to conflict with 
other

named specimens.

Best!

--AL Mitterling


- Original Message -
From: Shawn Alan
To: Meteorite-List
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorite Name?



Hello Listers,

I think the name of the meteorite should be Livingston because wasnt 
that

the first place a meteorite was found and the media has been talking
about that town. Plus it seems like that was ground zero the first 
couple

of days when everyone rushed into WI.

Shawn Alan


Jeff Grossman wrote on April 17th:

I see everybody starting to call this fall Livingston... but this is
not likely to be accepted as the name since there are already 
meteorites

named Livingston (Montana) and Livingston (Tennessee).

Jeff



[meteorite-list] WI Meteorite Name?
James Balister balisterjames at att.net
Fri May 7 18:06:46 EDT 2010

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You all know that we gotta call it the Livingston strewn field.  In 
fact
we should start a new nameing process where all meteorites that are 
from
a strewn field should have a large S after it.  Regardless of the 
name of

the rock.