[meteorite-list] Another in the curious tektite series

2023-03-13 Thread Thomas Harris iMac via Meteorite-list
I always enjoy the irregular shapes in tektites because the standard dumbbells, 
teardrops and spheroids are exactly that, standard. 

This is a 5 cm irregular or fragment-form Australasian tektite from Viet Nam 
with what appears to have smeared indentations from low speed contact(s), 
presumedly with other equally soft-skinned tektites.  This is problematic 
because the through-body re-heating above glass temperature and plastic 
deformation don’t happen with aerodynamic heating and ablation.  At the very 
least the skin of this tektite seems to have been reheated after 
solidification, retaining fine surface texture outside of the smear channels.  
If this is ascent-phase after solidification, that is a large displacement from 
the source location for collision with multiple other tektites.  If this is 
descent-phase, why are tektites on converging trajectories after the better 
part of an hour or more to solidify before reentry?

The highly ‘platy' coarse morphology relative to any spheroidal protomorph 
makes the formative process quite puzzling. 

When the Indochina region is considered as probable source for this distal 
impact ejecta glass, it directly disagrees with a first principles suborbital 
analysis of ablated tektites, which shows the source region must like across 
eastern North America per Harris (2022) and Davias, Harris (2022).  

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FqenhEGuGrY 
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FqenhEGuGrY>


Thomas “Tim” Harris
Email: thsharr...@icloud.com <mailto:thsharr...@icloud.com>
Engineering Scientist

Brooklyn NY USA
718 344 6016

Web:
Google Scholar T. H. S. Harris 
<https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=OZ6JzVIJ=en>  
Research Gate <https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Thomas_Harris8>


Cintos.org Survey: US LiDAR
by M. E. Davias
https://cbaysurvey.cintos.org <https://cbaysurvey.cintos.org/>



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[meteorite-list] Tektite with high-voltage arcing damage? on concave side

2023-01-08 Thread Thomas Harris iMac via Meteorite-list
https://youtu.be/ekH2fw4iYZQ <https://youtu.be/ekH2fw4iYZQ>

Thomas “Tim” Harris
Email: thsharr...@icloud.com <mailto:thsharr...@icloud.com>
Engineering Scientist

Brooklyn NY USA
718 344 6016

Web:
Google Scholar T. H. S. Harris 
<https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=OZ6JzVIJ=en>  
Research Gate <https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Thomas_Harris8>

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[meteorite-list] CT scan from Black Beauty - Martian meteorite interior

2019-03-13 Thread Thomas Kurtz via Meteorite-list
https://eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2019-03/uarl-mml031319.php

 

Thomas Kurtz

Weil der Stadt, Germany
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[meteorite-list] Mars moon got its grooves from rolling stones, study suggests

2018-11-24 Thread Thomas Kurtz via Meteorite-list
 

November 20, 2018

 

http://news.brown.edu/articles/2018/11/phobos

 

My favorite part:

The simulations showed that boulders hit that lip and take a flying leap over the dead spot, before coming down again on the other side. “It’s like a ski jump,” Ramsley said. “The boulders keep going but suddenly there’s no ground under them. They end up doing this suborbital flight over this zone.”

 

Regards,

Thomas Kurtz

 
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[meteorite-list] Two meteorites strike on moon

2018-08-06 Thread Thomas Perry via Meteorite-list
https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/meteors-moon-1.4773188?utm_source=quora_medium=referral
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[meteorite-list] test

2018-08-06 Thread Thomas Perry via Meteorite-list
Test
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Re: [meteorite-list] Minor planet impactor witnessed over Botswana

2018-06-03 Thread Thomas Kurtz via Meteorite-list
Hi Mike, hi Rob,

 

thank you for this outstanding news.

  Video seems very promising for a meteorite fall.
 


This is the 3rd meteoroid detected prior of the fall. (See Wikipedia)

 

1. 20081007 Sudan_TC3_Almahatta Sita

2. 20140102 Atlantic Ocean NE to Brasil 2014 AA

(3. 20151113 Sri Lanka WT1190F --> 11,3 km/s reentry of translunar injection module from Lunar Prospector, 1998)

3. 20180602 Botswana ZLAF9B2

 

Looking forward to the next one :-)

 


--Thomas

 
 

Gesendet: Sonntag, 03. Juni 2018 um 13:35 Uhr
Von: "Mike Hankey via Meteorite-list" 
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Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Minor planet impactor witnessed over Botswana

Hey Rob,

Nice find. A few more reports have come in, one with a nice video.

https://www.amsmeteors.org/members/imo_view/event/2018/1924

The tractor shed seen in the video, I believe is just 200 meters south
of the witness reported location. Looking at the surrounding buildings
I'm pretty sure this is it. The lat/lon for the building in the video
is: -26.743427° 26.222917°

Thanks,

Mike

On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 8:22 PM, Matson, Rob D. via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Catalina Sky Survey has done it again -- discovery of an impacting NEO, this time
> just 8 1/2 hours prior to impact. CSS discovered the NEO at 8:14 UT today (1:14 am
> MST), and a bright vapor trail was seen to the north of observer Dhiraj S in Botswana
> (24° 37' 21'' S, 25° 54' 57'' E) at 16:44 UT, consistent with both the time and location
> of the asteroid's predicted trajectory:
>
> http://www.amsmeteors.org/members/imo_view/report/142364
>
> Bill Gray's time/location plot for predicted impact:
>
> https://projectpluto.com/temp/z.png
>
> Yellow cross-hairs are the observer's location. Asteroid size pretty similar to that of
> impactor 2008 TC3 that ultimately resulted in meteorites recovered from Almahata
> Sitta in northern Sudan. Unfortunately, due to the short time between discovery and
> impact, very few observations (12?) made of the impacting body (temporary designation
> ZLAF9B2) on this occasion. Compare that with almost 800 observations of 2008 TC3.
>
> --Rob
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] 3D laser scans of meteorites

2017-01-06 Thread Thomas Kurtz via Meteorite-list
Hi Svend,

 

excellent 3D-laser scan work and detailed descriptions !

I´m a big enthusiast of 3D-printing.

Especially future 3D printing in space. Like for spaceships, probes, etc. made with powder of catched asteroids.
 

Thomas Kurtz

 
 

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Dear list,
 

While I'm still convinced that the most meaningful and conclusive approach to capture individual meteorites is by conventional photography, I've been experimenting a bit with 3D laser scans recently.

 

Along the way, I gathered some gigabyte of STL data, but only used it for visualization purposes so far. See some examples here:

 

http://www.meteorite-recon.com/home/meteorite-documentaries/3d-meteorite-scans

 

Among others I chose two oriented chondrites for the project and came to wonder whether someone here is in the business of aerodynamic flight simulation. My question is, if the data gathered can be used to determine ablative flight orientation for a given shape. Perhaps there is an established test model with relevant parameters available? 

 

Thanks for your interest.

 

Svend

 

www.meteorite-recon.com

 

 

 
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[meteorite-list] AD2 (free) - 2016 - TWANNBERG - Switzerland - Iron Meteorite IIG

2016-06-17 Thread Stalder Thomas via Meteorite-list
Dear list

Available are 4 small/medium sized specimens (individual/end-cut/slice) of the 
Twannberg - Switzerland Iron IIAB meteorite. 

The Twannberg meteorite is a haxahedrite iron meteorite. It is the only 
meteorite of the IIG group found in Europe and the largest meteorite ever found 
in 
Switzerland.

http://stores.ebay.com/saharagemsmeteoritesandmore

Best regards and have a nice weekend!
Thomas Stalder
IMCA 8629
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[meteorite-list] AD1 2016 (free ad) - Some nice NWA slices on Ebay

2016-02-19 Thread Stalder Thomas via Meteorite-list
Dear list members


I'm offering very nice slices of different NWA meteorites on Ebay. Low TKW, low 
starting bid, no reserve auctions. Ending coming Sunday. More to come, so have 
a look again in the coming weeks.

NWA 6057 (prov.) Achondrite)
NWA 6475 (Eucrite pmict)
NWA 8310 (Chondrite LL5-7)
NWA 8377 (Chondrite CV3)


next week:
NWA 5995 (Achondrite polym. with nano diamonds)
NWA 6059 (Chondrite L6)
NWA 6476 (Chondrite IMB H5)


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Thanks for looking.
Thomas
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[meteorite-list] Looking for a collector's e-mail address

2016-01-23 Thread Stalder Thomas via Meteorite-list
Hi list

I got an inquiry from someone with the name Edward Barnard on my website. 
Unfortunately he forgot to mention his e-mail address on my contact form. Do 
any of you may know him and have his contact details?
If yes please send me a mail to saharag...@yahoo.com   Thank you very much.

Thomas
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[meteorite-list] AD 1 2015 (free ad) - BINGOL slices

2015-11-09 Thread Stalder Thomas via Meteorite-list
Dear list members

I'm offering some amazing and very professional cut full slices of the recent 
Turkey fall "BINGOL" (Bingöl). 

Probably Achondrite (Howardite) fall September 2, 2015 in Bingöl. 
Classification is pending. Confirmed Howardite.

All slices are coming from Spacejewels / IMCA member. They were cut with high 
end diamond saws and cooled with pure alcohol.

All specimens are delivered with a signed "certificate of authenticity".

Please have a look if interested: 
http://stores.ebay.com/SAHARAGEMS-Meteorites-and-more?_rdc=1

Some more are available upon request (limited). Weight between 0.8 g to 2.2 g.

Thanks for looking.
Thomas
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[meteorite-list] Spotkanie meteorytowo-rodzinne u was

2015-08-21 Thread Thomas Kurtz via Meteorite-list
Witaj Tomek,
 jesteśmy w opolu do końca sierpnia i chętnie byśmy odwiedzili wrocław i was z 
całą rodzinką. Ktory dzien i pora by wam pasowal? pozdrawiam, tomek kurc


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[meteorite-list] Question

2015-02-26 Thread Thomas Webb via Meteorite-list
Hello List,
Does anyone know where Carl Agee is?
Thanks,
Thomas
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[meteorite-list] Question

2015-02-26 Thread Thomas Webb via Meteorite-list
Hello List,
Does Anyone know where Carl Agee is?  I can't seem to make contact with him.
Thanks,
Thomas
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[meteorite-list] Volcano Eruption in Papua New Guinea 29-Aug-2014

2014-09-13 Thread Thomas Kurtz via Meteorite-list
Hi All,

there is a new MUST SEE movie of a volcano eruption.
It´s not directly meteorite related, but shows high velocity effects on debris, 
air and cloud condensation around.
The velocity of the stone-cloud might be near 1km/s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUREX8aFbMs

Regards,

Thomas Kurtz
Weil der Stadt, Germany

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[meteorite-list] Ensisheim show 2014

2014-06-22 Thread Stalder Thomas via Meteorite-list
Dear all,

Here some impressions of this years Ensisheim meteorite show on my FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.640248122735178.1073741836.307339229359404type=1

Like every year a highlight in the met-calendar and fortunately just around 
the corner for me to visit. I was there on Saturday afternoon, so no late 
night pictures unfortunately :-) Hope the link works. If not just visit FB and 
look for saharagems.

Best,
Thomas


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[meteorite-list] meteorites from Earth Aw: Scientists Reconstruct Ancient, Massive Impact

2014-04-10 Thread Thomas Kurtz
The question is:

Which achondrites have creation ages of 3.23 billion to 3.47 billion years ?
Perhaps we have material from this event among our collections.
Some material might still be flying in the solar system, even 3 billion years 
later.

Regards,
Thomas Kurtz
Weil der Stadt, Germany

 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. April 2014 um 01:05 Uhr
 Von: Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov
 An: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Betreff: [meteorite-list] Scientists Reconstruct Ancient, Massive Impact

 
 
 http://news.agu.org/press-release/scientists-reconstruct-ancient-impact-that-dwarfs-dinosaur-extinction-blast/
 
 Scientists reconstruct ancient impact that dwarfs dinosaur-extinction blast
 American Geophysical Union
 Press Release
 9 April 2014
 
 WASHINGTON, D.C. - Picture this: A massive asteroid almost as wide as 
 Rhode Island and about three to five times larger than the rock thought 
 to have wiped out the dinosaurs slams into Earth. The collision punches 
 a crater into the planet's crust that's nearly 500 kilometers (about 300 
 miles) across: greater than the distance from Washington, D.C. to New 
 York City, and up to two and a half times larger in diameter than the 
 hole formed by the dinosaur-killing asteroid. Seismic waves bigger than 
 any recorded earthquakes shake the planet for about half an hour at any 
 one location - about six times longer than the huge earthquake that struck 
 Japan three years ago. The impact also sets off tsunamis many times deeper 
 than the one that followed the Japanese quake.
 
 Although scientists had previously hypothesized enormous ancient impacts, 
 much greater than the one that may have eliminated the dinosaurs 65 million 
 years ago, now a new study reveals the power and scale of a cataclysmic 
 event some 3.26 billion years ago which is thought to have created geological 
 features found in a South African region known as the Barberton greenstone 
 belt.  The research has been accepted for publication in Geochemistry, 
 Geophysics, Geosystems, a journal of the American Geophysical Union.
 
 The huge impactor - between 37 and 58 kilometers (23 to 36 miles) wide 
 - collided with the planet at 20 kilometers per second (12 miles per second). 
 The jolt, bigger than a 10.8 magnitude earthquake, propelled seismic waves 
 hundreds of kilometers through the Earth, breaking rocks and setting off 
 other large earthquakes. Tsunamis thousands of meters deep - far bigger 
 than recent tsunamis generated by earthquakes - swept across the oceans 
 that covered most of the Earth at that time.
 
 We knew it was big, but we didn't know how big, Donald Lowe, a geologist 
 at Stanford University and a co-author of the study, said of the asteroid.
 
 [Graphic]
 A graphical representation of the size of the asteroid thought to have 
 killed the dinosaurs, and the crater it created, compared to an asteroid 
 thought to have hit the Earth 3.26 billion years ago and the size of the 
 crater it may have generated. A new study reveals the power and scale 
 of the event some 3.26 billion years ago which scientists think created 
 geological features found in a South African region known as the Barberton 
 greenstone belt.
 Credit: American Geophysical Union
 
 Lowe, who discovered telltale rock formations in the Barberton greenstone 
 a decade ago, thought their structure smacked of an asteroid impact. The 
 new research models for the first time how big the asteroid was and the 
 effect it had on the planet, including the possible initiation of a more 
 modern plate tectonic system that is seen in the region, according to 
 Lowe.
 
 The study marks the first time scientists have mapped in this way an impact 
 that occurred more than 3 billion years ago, Lowe added, and is likely 
 one of the first times anyone has modeled any impact that occurred during 
 this period of the Earth's evolution.
 
 The impact would have been catastrophic to the surface environment. The 
 smaller, dino-killing asteroid crash is estimated to have released more 
 than a billion times more energy than the bombs that destroyed Hiroshima 
 and Nagasaki. The more ancient hit now coming to light would have released 
 much more energy, experts said.
 
 The sky would have become red hot, the atmosphere would have been filled 
 with dust and the tops of oceans would have boiled, the researchers said. 
 The impact sent vaporized rock into the atmosphere, which encircled the 
 globe and condensed into liquid droplets before solidifying and falling 
 to the surface, according to the researchers.
 
 The impact may have been one of dozens of huge asteroids that scientists 
 think hit the Earth during the tail end of the Late Heavy Bombardment 
 period, a major period of impacts that occurred early in the Earth's history 
 - around 3 billion to 4 billion years ago.
 
 Many of the sites where these asteroids landed were destroyed by erosion, 
 movement of the Earth's crust and other forces

[meteorite-list] AD: EBay auctions ending tomorrow and lunar / mars slices

2014-03-29 Thread Stalder Thomas


Dear list members,

Please have a look at E-Bay if you like. Some rare and historic meteorite 
fragments available. Low start price. No reserve auctions. Ending tomorrow 
Sunday.

http://stores.ebay.com/SAHARAGEMS-Meteorites-and-more?_rdc=1

And some beautiful prepared slices of lunar and mars meteorites: NWA 6963 - NWA 
7397 - Tissint and NWA 8127:

http://www.sahara-gems.com/lunar-and-mars-meteorites-for-sale.html

Thanks.

Tom

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[meteorite-list] AD: Website update and rare iron part-slice for sale

2014-03-25 Thread Stalder Thomas

Dear list members,

Finally I finished the update of my website! You are most welcome to have a 
look:

http://www.saharagems.com

Complete new layout and I offer one nice part-slice of an almost impossible to 
purchase European iron meteorite ! (next to some other beauties. Not many for 
the moment, but more to come ... )

http://www.saharagems.com/iron-meteorites-for-sale.html

Thanks for your visit. Comments are welcome.

Cheers,

Tom

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Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar meteorite casts?

2013-11-11 Thread Thomas Kurtz
Hi Raymond, list,

there are casts for the Lunar meteorite SaU 300. I still have a form of this 
individual, so some more casts could be made.

Thomas Kurtz, 
Weil der Stadt, Germany


 Gesendet: Montag, 11. November 2013 um 21:25 Uhr
 Von: Raymond Borges borgesraym...@gmail.com
 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Betreff: [meteorite-list] Lunar meteorite casts?

 Hello!
 
 Anyone know of any Lunar meteorite casts in existence?
 I know of only 2 Mars meteorite casts, NWA 1195 and DaG 735.
 And also, wouldn't it be nice if there was a nice NWA 7325 cast, with
 that spectacular green fusion crust?
 
 Raymond Borges
 spacerocks.org
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[meteorite-list] AD: Ebay ending tomorrow - NWAxxx p.p. w. NWA 7325, J.Winselwan and others

2013-11-09 Thread Stalder Thomas

Dear list members,

More beautiful cut slices and one end cut of the very fresh and new JBILET 
WINSELWAN CM2 are available next to the NWAxxx p.p. w. NWA 7325 and others.

ENDING tomorrow Sunday.

No reserve, low starting bid at USD 1.99 !

Please have a look if interested.

http://stores.ebay.com/SAHARAGEMS-Meteorites-and-more

Thanks  Happy bidding
Tom
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[meteorite-list] AD: Ebay - CM2 - JBILET WINSELWAN and others - last set for the moment

2013-09-21 Thread Stalder Thomas


Dear list members,

More beautiful cut slices, end cuts and fragments of the very fresh and new 
JBILET WINSELWAN CM2 are available ! 

Prepared and cut by spacejewels switzerland ! It's the last set for the 
moment so take your chance to get one.

ENDING tomorrow Sunday.

No reserve, low starting bid at USD 1.99 !

Please have a look if interested.

http://stores.ebay.com/SAHARAGEMS-Meteorites-and-more

Thanks  Happy bidding
Tom

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[meteorite-list] AD: Ebay - New CM2 - JBILET WINSELWAN - slices and fragments !

2013-09-06 Thread Stalder Thomas
Dear list members,

More beautiful cut slices, end cuts and fragments of the very fresh and new 
JBILET WINSELWAN CM2 are available now ! 

Prepared and cut by spacejewels switzerland !

ENDING coming Sunday.

No reserve, low starting bid at USD 1.99 !

Please have a look if interested.

http://stores.ebay.com/SAHARAGEMS-Meteorites-and-more

Thanks  Happy bidding
Tom

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[meteorite-list] AD: Ebay - New CM2 - JBILET WINSELWAN - slices and fragments available now !!

2013-08-27 Thread Stalder Thomas


Hi list,

Beautiful cut slices, end cuts and fragments of the very fresh and new JBILET 
WINSELWAN CM2 are available now ! Prepared and cut by spacejewels switzerland 
!

No reserve, low starting bid at USD 1.99 !

Please have a look if interested.

http://stores.ebay.com/SAHARAGEMS-Meteorites-and-more

Thanks  Happy bidding
Tom

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[meteorite-list] AD: Ending on E-Bay on Sunday - Ensisheim slices - NWA 7397 - NWA p.p. with NWA 7325

2013-08-16 Thread Stalder Thomas


Hi list,

I offer a few meteorites on E-Bay ending coming Sunday:

Martian Shergottite NWA 7397, small slices of ENSISHEIM and NWA xxx p.p. with 
NWA 7325 (Mercury ?)  and other ones.

No reserve, low starting bid at USD 9.99 !

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[meteorite-list] New fall in Germany 1.3kg Braunschweig

2013-06-20 Thread Thomas Kurtz
Hi list,  

there is a new fall in Germany, which I think was not posted yet in our list. 
(intense discussions in German met. forum)

Some few facts:
Ordinary chondrite (L6), still under classification.
Fall in 23 or 24 April-2013 , ~2am local time.
Only one eye-witness which saw the end of the bolide and heard one detonation 
later.
One ear-witness who heard the bang on the ground while he was watching TV.
Only one poor picture is available from a meteor camera due to a very cloudy 
night.
1.3kg fell directly into a parking place of a private house, hundreds of broken 
pieces scattered around, also to the road. Some were pulverised by cars. 
Fortunately most of them were recovered, by quick reaction of Rainer 
Bartoschewitz.
Second larger piece (left one from picture 2) is now exhibited in Ries Crater 
museum, at least until Sept. 2013 (214,1 g major piece).
The individual meteorite demaged the paving stones. (=hammer fall?)
The recovery of the paving stones around the striking hole failed due to a 
complete structure change caused by the impact. (Their collapsed to sand 
grains, which was first not visible on the paving stones. There is a 
breathtaking picture of this in the museum)
The nose cone-shape of the individual was reconstructed (inteligent guessing) 
by Karl Wimmer and shows that probably more individuals separeted from the main 
mass. (map with best estimation for a strewn field is available. So far no 
further finds known)
Enjoy:
http://www.braunschweiger-zeitung.de/lokales/Braunschweig/meteorit-fiel-in-braunschweig-vom-himmel-id990080.html

See some of you soon in Ensisheim,

Regards from Weil der Stadt,  (birth town of Johannes Kepler)

Thomas Kurtz
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[meteorite-list] AD: On E-Bay martian NWA 7397 and more

2013-06-09 Thread Stalder Thomas


Hi list,

I have a few meteorites on E-Bay:

Small cut slices of the Martian Shergottite NWA 7397 found 2012 and NWA 7831 
(prov. name) Diogenite found 2013.

No reserve, low starting bid at USD 9.99 !

Please have a look if interested.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh!

2013-04-19 Thread Stalder Thomas
Hi folks,

Just my input about stones from Turkey. Recently the highest police officer 
from the canton of Valais in Switzerland was arrested in Turkey (carrying a 
stone most probably a piece of an ancient temple) when return from family 
holidays. I would not try to carry anything out of Turkeylooking like ancient 
not even a stone found on a beach somewhere. I'm glad that I'm not working for 
our Consulate in Turkey otherwise cases like this one means a lot of overtime 
work and maybe prison visits included. So I prefer to be here in the wild east 
balcan country of Kosovo where to carry tons of minerals out the country is 
not a problem at all (at least until now) :-)


Here a link (sorry only in German).

http://www.blick.ch/news/ausland/verliert-varone-jetzt-seinen-job-id2242898.html

Cheers
Tom



 From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh!
 

Hi Count,

yep you're right, I'm no diplomat.
(And - viziers and consuls - here in Germany with its baleful history, we have 
a different paradigm about states servants than in the hegemonic proud 
Ex-Ottoman Empire,  German consuls aren't only servants of the state, but also 
servants of the people).

Anyway, the arrests of tourists having picked up a stone from the beach are 
always also a part of a political game.

Partially because of the permanent refusal of the EU to start negotiations with 
Turkey for its admittance to the EU,
and partially because of Turkey's aggressive policy to claim back antiquities 
and cultural heritage from other governments.

From the Rep. of Germany for instance, they want to have back that stuff:
http://www.geo.de/reisen/community/bild/regular/220723/Pergamon-Altar.jpg


(Btw. one important reason for not declaring meteorites to be cultural 
heritage.
That would bring the big historic institutional collections in hard troubles).

Best!
Martin

-UrsprünglicheNachricht-
Von: Count Deiro [mailto:countde...@earthlink.net] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 19. April 2013 04:55
An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh!

Hallo Martin,

I said meteorite to him and the answer was no. I don't want to call attention 
to myself by asking for a further clarification. My feeling is that he would 
take offense at my having the impudence (Frechheit) to quote his own laws to 
him.

Allesbestes

Guido



-Original Message-
From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de
Sent: Apr 18, 2013 12:14 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh!

Hi Count,

maybe you could ask the consul again, to give you the respective law?

Decisive is the Law No. 2863 of July 21, 1983 on Conservation of 
Cultural and Natural Property (as last amended by Law No. 5835 of 
February 4, 2009 and Law No. 5917 of June 25, 2009)

Here it is in English version:
http://www.wipo.int/wipolex/en/text.jsp?file_id=249359

It definitely has no meteorites in the catalogue-articles, where all kind of 
object-categories are explicitly named.

Neither cover the definitions of cultural property nor natural 
property, given in Chapter 1, Art. 3a) 1)2) Meteorites in general, but would 
need an interpretation by a court.
E.g. a find of H5 could perhaps not be regarded unique (nor being of beauty, 
if it's W3, hehe). 

And even if covered, if purchased from a dealer with the right license, they 
could be exported like antiquities in such cases too.

On the other side, rocks are per se not o.k. see the definition of natural 
property.


Best,
Martin


-UrsprünglicheNachricht-
Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com 
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] ImAuftragvon
Count Deiro
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. April 2013 20:31
An: Anne Black; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh!

Dear Anne,

In reading the story, the two suspected artifacts are described in the body of 
the article. 

I have contacted the Turkish Cultural and Economic Affairs office in 
LosAngeles, California and His Excellency, Aydın Topcu, Consul General for 
Turkey, informs me that the collection of meteorites for removal from Turkey 
is forbidden under law and that there is no permit process.

So rocks ok...other things not.

Cordially,

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536    

-Original Message-
From: Anne Black impact...@aol.com
Sent: Apr 18, 2013 11:09 AM
To: countde...@earthlink.net, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh!

Sorry, but this does not add up.
I have been to Turkey twice, beautiful country, very friendly people. 
I have bought minerals, some multi-colored marbles, picked up some 
blue serpentine on the side of the road, and had no problem at all 
bringing them back.
I also visited many archaeological sites, but I certainly would never 
pick up anything there.

I wonder 

[meteorite-list] AD: Easter Offer and meteorites on E-Bay ending Sunday

2013-03-29 Thread Stalder Thomas
Dear list members,

I have a new round of meteorites on E-Bay right now ending Sunday:

ALLENDE, ASSISI, BORISKINO, QUENGGOUK, TWANNBERG (micros) and many different 
NWA fragments or slices.

No reserve, low starting bid at USD 9.99 !

Please have a look if interested.

stores.ebay.com/SAHARAGEMS-Meteorites-and-more


Further I have 3 larger slices of:

NWA 6293 - Achondrite Diogenite - 6.84g slice

NWA 6476 - H chondrite impact melt breccia S2, W0/1 - part slice 10.44 g

and

NWA 6963 - Shergottite MARS - nice slice 0. 687 g

Please contact me offlist: saharag...@yahoo.com for those three pieces.

Happy Easter !

Tom

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[meteorite-list] AD: E-Bay meteorite fragments ending tomorrow 10AM PST

2013-03-09 Thread Stalder Thomas


Dear list members,

A few rare small meteorite slices and fragments are available next to LDG and 
other minerals:

ALLENDE, GUANACO, KERILIS, SAINT-AUBIN, SARATOV, QUENGGOUK, NWA 1108, NWA 2123, 
NWA 6059, NWA 6475

No reserve, low starting bid at USD 9.99 !

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[meteorite-list] To extend asteroid-surveillance near to suns direction -Chelyabinsk meteoroid

2013-03-08 Thread Thomas Kurtz
Hello Ron, hi list,

the Chelyabinsk 15-17m meteoroid was coming just ~15° from suns direction.

Is there any space craft planned for incoming asteroid-surveillance near to the 
sun ?
(Earth as the point of view)
Which orbit would be the most effective to cover this space area ?
How many of those satellites are needed to cover most of this dangerous area ?
Which studies do already exist for such a mission ?
Who is working on realization ?

In the future, even if we would discover such an impactor few hours before 
entering the atmosphere (like TC3 asteroid in 2008), 
warnings to the people near impact side could prevent a lot of injuries.
(and create a new kind of super bolide tourism ;-)

Best Regards,
Thomas Kurtz, 
Weil der Stadt (native town of J.Kepler)
Germany
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[meteorite-list] AD: E-Bay listenings ending in about 6 hrs (10am PST)

2013-01-27 Thread Stalder Thomas


Dear list members,

A few rare small meteorite slices and fragments are available next to LDG and 
other minerals:

ALLENDE, IBBENBÜREN, EL BLIDA, BJURBÖLE and others

No reserve, low starting bid at USD 9.99 !

Please have a look if interested.

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Thanks.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Black Beauty on the open market?

2013-01-18 Thread Thomas Webb
How about 'coprolite' :)

--- On Fri, 1/18/13, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Black Beauty on the open market?
 To: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Norm Lehrman 
 nlehr...@nvbell.net
 Date: Friday, January 18, 2013, 11:51 PM
 That listing should have been put
 under croprolite.
 
 Mendy Ouzillou
 
 On Jan 18, 2013, at 8:16 PM, Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
 Norm
 
 HAHAHAHAHAHA too fun, I wish It was that cheap to by some
 Black Beauty :)
 
 Shawn Alan
 IMCA 1633
 ebay store
 http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html
 http://meteoritefalls.com/
 
 
 
 
 From: Norm Lehrman nlehr...@nvbell.net
 To: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com;
 abdelfattah gharrad life19ma...@yahoo.fr
 
 Cc: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 
 Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 10:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Black Beauty on the open
 market?
 
 Shawn, why wait for Tucson? It's already on Fleabay, and
 remarkably cheap!
 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Beauty-Martian-meteorite-very-rare-/130833898794?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1e764edd2a
 
 
 This has become the dumping grounds for the absurd. 
 How sad!
 
 Norm
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
 To: abdelfattah gharrad life19ma...@yahoo.fr
 Cc: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Fri, January 18, 2013 7:38:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Black Beauty on the open
 market?
 
 Hello Abdelfattah
 
 This post got by me, do you think
 there will be any Black Beauty for 
 sale at Tuscon?
 
 Shawn Alan
 IMCA 1633
 ebay store
 http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html
 http://meteoritefalls.com/
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: abdelfattah gharrad life19ma...@yahoo.fr
 To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com;
 Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 8:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Black Beauty on the open
 market?
 
 
 
 cause of specific criteria
 Abdelfattah.
 
 
 
 De : Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com
 À : Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
 
 Cc : Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 
 Envoyé le : Mardi 8 janvier 2013 3h59
 Objet : Re: [meteorite-list] Black Beauty on the open
 market?
 
 It is nice, but I don't see why it would be much more
 valuable than say Nakhla 
 or Shergotty.
 
 Michael Farmer
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jan 7, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  Hello Listers
  
  I was wondering, will this meteorite ever be sold on
 the open market or has it 
 
  be donated to science already because of its rarity?
 And if so, what would be 
  the
  value? I mean in science terms, this find could have a
 few billion $ value or 
  more cause 
  
  that is how much it would cost to build a rover that
 could bring back a sample 
  like
  black beauty from Mars
  
  Shawn Alan
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  http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html
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[meteorite-list] AD: E-Bay meteorite fragments

2013-01-12 Thread Stalder Thomas

Dear list members,

A few rare small meteorites slices and fragments next to LDG and other minerals 
are available on 
E-Bay ending in about 24hrs.

SAINT-AUBIN, ELLA ISLAND, ASSISI, MOUNT EGERTON, DANIEL'S KUIL, NORTH CHILE, 
MURCHISON

No reserve, low starting bid at USD 9.99 !

Please have a look if interested.

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Re: [meteorite-list] A 'Find' of Another Kind - the Vote is In!

2013-01-08 Thread Thomas Webb
Kevin,
Hilarious!  I think I need a box of that wine!
Thomas




--- On Wed, 1/9/13, Kevin Kichinka mars...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Kevin Kichinka mars...@gmail.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] A 'Find' of Another Kind - the Vote is In!
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Wednesday, January 9, 2013, 12:35 AM
 Team Meteorite:
 
 The wind is howling to the stars on a chilly (22*C/72F)
 night here on
 the central plateau of Costa Rica.
 
 Thanks to the miracle of modern refrigeration, I've just
 utilized the
 'last breast' from Thanksgiving to make Turkey Chowder for
 dinner. As
 a single guy living alone, there's probably some symbolism
 there.
 
 To work off the enzymes and growth hormones knowingly
 consumed in that
 last breast, I stepped out on my patio with a glass of
 Chilean wine I
 poured out of a box. The second I opened the door, the choir
 of
 crickets cut off their chorus.
 
 Hey, it's just me. Sing on! I requested in Spanish.
 
 Bueno. Chirp, chirp, chirp  cantaban los
 grillos.
 
 Even the insects are friendly here. I like it.
 
 While wishing with all my might that Steve of Chicago can
 find a
 partner to exchange a Gao with sexual orientation, flow
 lips and a
 rollover line for a copy of THE Bob Haag's Catalogue from
 1985 (and
 hoping, too, that the prices are 'still in effect'), I
 pondered the
 good Dr. Jeff Grossman's work to refine a 'fall', going
 where no man
 has gone before.
 
 Pull the tab-top off of your box of wine and join me under
 the windy
 stars while I review how this played out on the m-list, what
 was until
 now the uncontested definition of a meteorite 'fall'.
 
 Hey, hey. This is a classy discussion. I know its poured
 from a box,
 but no Dixie cups, OK? Only 'Glass' glass.
 
 First the gauntlet was thrown. Note the conviction of Jeff's
 opening
 three word volley
 
 In all seriousness
 
 ... I have considered refining, or at least qualifying the
 definition
 of fall. The categories I've considered are these,
 and  the
 definitions are first passes:
 
 Observed fall: observed to fall, either visually or with
 instruments,
 and collected soon after the event. The event was well
 documented.
 Physical evidence associated with the collected meteorites
 is consistent
 with a fresh fall, or, when collection does not occur
 immediately,
 directly points to a fall at the time of the observed
 event.
 
 Unobserved fall: No observations were made of a fall event,
 but physical
 evidence conclusively points to a fall on a specific date or
 within a
 very narrow range of dates.
 
 Probable fall: In these cases, there was a well-documented
 meteor event
 with characteristics consistent with a meteorite fall,
 followed by the
 collection of meteorites some time later. There is a strong
 likelihood
 that the meteorite fell in the observed event, but physical
 evidence is
 not fully conclusive.
 
 Possible fall: The same situation as a probable fall, but
 there is
 significant doubt about whether the meteorite is connected
 to the event
 or about the reliability of the observations of the event.
 
 Doubtful fall: The same situation as a possible fall, but
 there is a
 high degree of doubt.
 
 This was all suggested by the circumstances surrounding the
 Bene(a)
 and (b) meteorites, which I would have put in the possible
 fall
 category, if such a thing existed.
 
 Jeff 
 
 ***
 Ships may pass quietly in the night, but the list threw
 anchor on this
 one and prepared to send broadsides.
 
 The esteemed and most respected Anne M. Black (is it true
 that the 'M'
 stands for 'meteorite'?) came down on the 'logical side' and
 supported
 Jeff's new terminology. The Most Excellent Paul Swartz put
 on the same
 uniform and ran a lap for the team.
 
 But Michael Farmer fired the first volley - I find this new
 attempt
 to change terminology disturbing. I have hundreds of old
 catalogs from
 the top museums and dealers from more than 200 years ago
 till today,
 all of them list falls and finds. None of them discuss
 unobserved
 falls as an acceptable alternative. Are we really ready to
 just accept
 anything thrown out there, and watch as all manner of BS is
 used to
 discredit hundreds of years of accepted terminology?
 
 Adding Any label I get describing a meteorite as an
 unobserved
 fall will be promptly thrown where it belongs, in the trash
 heap of
 schemes and scams.
 
 Well into his second box of red, Jim Wooddell exclaimed in
 support, I
 don't often agree with Michael Farmer, but when I do, I am
 drinking!
 Stay thirsty my friends!
 
 Good advice, Jim!
 
 John Cabassi sees no reason to change.
 
 Bill Kies came up with his best contribution ever when he
 explained 
 If all finds are falls and all falls are finds, even though
 all falls
 haven't been found and all finds have been found, a fall has
 to be
 found before it becomes a fall or a find, but a find is just
 a find

[meteorite-list] Find, Fall Terminology

2013-01-07 Thread Thomas Webb
All,
The terms find and fall are concise and understood by everyone in the 
meteorite community.  I don't see the need to introduce terms that may lead to 
more ambiguity.  For example:  if find is changed to unobserved fall in 
describing a meteorite it could possibly be an outright false statement since 
it could have been observed by many people but never reported or recorded.   
Also, do we include other animals when we refer to observed?  Who knows who 
or what observed one of those that we call find,  so let's just leave it at 
that and continue to call it a find.   The term fall as it is now used 
means that we have a pretty good record that someone actually saw it streak 
through the atmosphere and recoveries were soon made in the projected fall 
area.  In some cases people have witnessed the actual impact or impacts as they 
happened but this is not required to call it a fall.  Occasionally it may be 
years before a witnessed event produces
 recovered meteorites but if we know the fall area we can tie it to the event 
and still call it a probable fall and end up using just fall with a fairly 
high degree of accuracy.
For practicality and to tie in with what has been used and understood for 
years, I think we should continue to use the terms find and fall.
My best,
Thomas

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[meteorite-list] AD: E-Bay Meteorites MURCHISON, STANNERN, ZAGAMI, NWA 800, 4025, 4647, 5239, 5240

2012-11-24 Thread Stalder Thomas

Dear list members,

A few rare small meteorite slices and fragments next to LDG and other minerals 
are available on E-Bay ending in about 24hrs. More and different ones will be 
listed soon.

No reserve, low starting bid at USD 1.99 !

Please have a look if interested.

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[meteorite-list] Impact Earth calculation

2012-11-19 Thread Stalder Thomas
Dear List members,
 
Just found an interesting new website about calculating the effects of an 
asteroid impact on earth:
 
http://www.purdue.edu/impactearth/


Best regards,
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[meteorite-list] AD: E-Bay - Meteorite fragments ATOKA, FORREST LAKES, ORGEUIL, SIENA, NORTH CHILE, NWA 5554

2012-11-16 Thread Stalder Thomas


Dear list members,

A few rare small meteorite slices and fragments next to LDG and other minerals 
are available on E-Bay ending beginning coming week. More and different ones 
will be listed soon.

No reserve, low starting bid at USD 1.99 !

Please have a look if interested.

http://stores.ebay.com/SAHARAGEMS-DESERT-STONES-and-more

Thanks and have a nice weekend.

Thomas

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[meteorite-list] www.saharagems.com - UPDATE -

2012-10-21 Thread Stalder Thomas


Dear List Members,

I finally updated my website.

saharagems is back with a major update. With lot's of new pictures about 
aesthetic libyan desert glass.

The page is mainly about Libyan Desert Glass which I'm collecting for over 10 
years now since an unforgettable trip to the Gilf Kebir region in the Western 
Desert of Egypt during the time when living in Egypt a decade ago. 

Further you find information and many new pictures of Pseudomorphs from the 
White Desert in Egypt. Also many new desert landscape pictures, My previous 
site www.saharastones.com is integrated too in the new page and you find a link 
to a new facebook account with lots of pictures too.

I add also some new pages withinformation and offers for minerals from the 
Trepca mine in Kosovo and some nice impressions about the country where I'm 
currently living (sorry not meteorite - tektite related).

Please have a look at:

www.saharagems.com

Any comments are welcome. Hope you enjoy.

Cheers,

Thomas

www.saharagems.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Curry in trouble with CO State attorneygeneral

2012-04-25 Thread Thomas Randall
   O.K. (I guess). You SHOULD really care. He is allegedly ripping people off. 
Not sure how THAT could be a conspiracy after the facts say his stuff is NOT 
real meteorites. 

Tom



On Apr 25, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Anne Black wrote:

 Guys!
 
 Can we please stop this thread?
 Personally, I don't really care, but the assistant State Attorney General in 
 charge of the case has asked us in Colorado (mostly Blaine Reed, me) to stop 
 all snide comments and attacks.
 You see, part of S. Curry's defense is that there is a huge conspiracy 
 against him, and he sees any deregatory comment as proof of that conspiracy. 
 So, let's no help him.
 
 OK?
 
 Anne M. Black
 www.IMPACTIKA.com
 impact...@aol.com
 Vice-President of IMCA
 www.IMCA.cc
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com
 To: Peter Scherff petersche...@rcn.com; 'Pete Pete' rsvp...@hotmail.com; 
 tommy2005 tommy2...@hvc.rr.com; 'meteoritelist meteoritelist' 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 5:46 pm
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Curry in trouble with CO State 
 attorneygeneral
 
 
 He's dumb enough to represent himself.
 
 *
 Stuart McDaniel
 Lawndale, NC
 Secr.,
 Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society
 
 IMCA #9052
 Sirius Meteorites
 
 Node35 - Sentinel All Sky
 
 http://spacerocks.weebly.com
 
 *
 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Scherff
 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:44 PM
 To: 'Pete Pete' ; tommy2...@hvc.rr.com ; 'meteoritelist meteoritelist'
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Curry in trouble with CO State
 attorneygeneral
 
 I wonder if he is smart enough to hire a lawyer and follow the lawyer's
 advice? Perhaps he is laying the ground work for an insanity defense. Why
 else would he be giving TV interviews?
 
 Peter
 
 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Pete Pete
 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:33 PM
 To: tommy2...@hvc.rr.com; meteoritelist meteoritelist
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Curry in trouble with CO State attorney
 general
 
 
 That was good news coverage of the case.
 
 Fortunately, Curry has taken on an inculpable attitude with an obvious
 arrogance of Deny, deny, deny. I didn't think they were fake, so I'm not
 guilty!
 
 He will find out soon enough that this just p***es everyone off in the
 courtroom, and he'll lose any chance of sympathy when it comes time for
 sentencing.
 
 From: tommy2...@hvc.rr.com
 Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:10:33 -0400
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Curry in trouble with CO State
 attorney general
 
 Sweet! Go get him! Watch the video!
 
 http://bit.ly/IoX9Vu
 
 Regards,
 
 Tom
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Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Curry in trouble with CO State attorneygeneral

2012-04-25 Thread Thomas Randall
It's fine with me. I don't think it'll matter though. I'll end my opinions now. 
Sad though IMHO. I will no longer respond. Makes me sick however. 

Regards,

Tom


On Apr 25, 2012, at 9:07 PM, Anne Black wrote:

 Tommy,
 
 I don't care if that thread goes on. I have only been hearing about this guy 
 for at least 2 years.
 And I do care about his ripping off people.
 
 Both Blaine and I have had long interviews with a detective and with the 
 assistant AG, a very nice young lawyer, and he asked that we please asked the 
 Meteorite Community to get off this case. And Blaine and I are glad to be 
 helpful.
 And that is why I asked for this thread to be terminated.  OK?
 
 
 Anne M. Black.
 www.IMPACTIKA.com
 impact...@aol.com
 Vice-President of IMCA
 www.IMCA.cc
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Thomas Randall tommy2...@hvc.rr.com
 To: Anne Black impact...@aol.com; Meteorite List 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 6:53 pm
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Curry in trouble with CO State 
 attorneygeneral
 
 
   O.K. (I guess). You SHOULD really care. He is allegedly ripping people off.
 Not sure how THAT could be a conspiracy after the facts say his stuff is NOT
 real meteorites.
 
 Tom
 
 
 
 On Apr 25, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Anne Black wrote:
 
 Guys!
 
 Can we please stop this thread?
 Personally, I don't really care, but the assistant State Attorney 
 General in
 charge of the case has asked us in Colorado (mostly Blaine Reed, me) to stop 
 all
 snide comments and attacks.
 You see, part of S. Curry's defense is that there is a huge 
 conspiracy against
 him, and he sees any deregatory comment as proof of that conspiracy. So, let's
 no help him.
 
 OK?
 
 Anne M. Black
 www.IMPACTIKA.com
 impact...@aol.com
 Vice-President of IMCA
 www.IMCA.cc
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com
 To: Peter Scherff petersche...@rcn.com; 'Pete Pete' 
 rsvp...@hotmail.com;
 tommy2005 tommy2...@hvc.rr.com; 'meteoritelist meteoritelist'
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 5:46 pm
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Curry in trouble with CO State
 attorneygeneral
 
 
 He's dumb enough to represent himself.
 
 *
 Stuart McDaniel
 Lawndale, NC
 Secr.,
 Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society
 
 IMCA #9052
 Sirius Meteorites
 
 Node35 - Sentinel All Sky
 
 http://spacerocks.weebly.com
 
 *
 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Scherff
 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:44 PM
 To: 'Pete Pete' ; tommy2...@hvc.rr.com ; 'meteoritelist meteoritelist'
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Curry in trouble with CO State
 attorneygeneral
 
 I wonder if he is smart enough to hire a lawyer and follow the 
 lawyer's
 advice? Perhaps he is laying the ground work for an insanity defense. 
 Why
 else would he be giving TV interviews?
 
 Peter
 
 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of 
 Pete Pete
 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:33 PM
 To: tommy2...@hvc.rr.com; meteoritelist meteoritelist
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Curry in trouble with CO State 
 attorney
 general
 
 
 That was good news coverage of the case.
 
 Fortunately, Curry has taken on an inculpable attitude with an obvious
 arrogance of Deny, deny, deny. I didn't think they were fake, so I'm 
 not
 guilty!
 
 He will find out soon enough that this just p***es everyone off in the
 courtroom, and he'll lose any chance of sympathy when it comes time 
 for
 sentencing.
 
 From: tommy2...@hvc.rr.com
 Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:10:33 -0400
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Curry in trouble with CO State
 attorney general
 
 Sweet! Go get him! Watch the video!
 
 http://bit.ly/IoX9Vu
 
 Regards,
 
 Tom
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[meteorite-list] LOL! Matt Morgan is trending right now on Twitter!

2012-03-18 Thread Thomas Randall
  Alas, not the same fellow we know though! I checked!

Regards,

Tom

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Re: [meteorite-list] Man claims to find meteor

2012-03-08 Thread Thomas Randall
 
 Oh I agree as well. I was just sending a link to the story to the list. 

Tom

On Mar 8, 2012, at 4:25 PM, Guenther wrote:

 I agree with Rob,

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Re: [meteorite-list] An Interesting Find

2012-03-01 Thread Thomas Webb
Nice concretion Larry!
TW

--- On Fri, 3/2/12, Larry Atkins thetop...@aol.com wrote:

 From: Larry Atkins thetop...@aol.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] An Interesting Find
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Friday, March 2, 2012, 12:18 AM
 
 Hello List,
 
 I went out for a walk today and found a most interesting
 rock. It was
 light tan,
 nearly white looking against the dark stones and I didn't
 think much of
 it,  just a concretion or something, until I bent over
 and looked at it
 closer and saw flow lines. It doesn't attract to a neodymium
 magnet at
 all, none, but I do think it may be a weathered chondrite.
 It certainly
 is
 oriented and the flow lines are obvious. I'd like to take a
 peak inside
 but haven't been able to decide how to go about it yet. It
 weighs
 around a kilo, just guessing.
 
 http://s934.photobucket.com/albums/ad190/alienrockfarm/New%20Find%20March%201%202012/
 
 I hope all are well, happy hunting!
 
 
 
 
 Sincerely,
 Larry Atkins
  
 IMCA # 1941
 Ebay alienrockfarm
  
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] what is it?

2012-02-25 Thread Thomas Webb
Looks like hematite or limonite to me!
Thomas

--- On Sat, 2/25/12, Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com wrote:

 From: Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] what is it?
 To: WS Schroer schr...@bigpond.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Saturday, February 25, 2012, 11:55 PM
 No record of it on the
 Met-Bull.doesn't really look real to me.
 
 
 
 Stuart McDaniel
 Lawndale, NC
 Secr.,
 Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society
 
 IMCA #9052
 Sirius Meteorites
 
 http://spacerocks.weebly.com
 -Original Message- From: WS Schroer
 Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:18 PM
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] what is it?
 
 Hello listees,
 
 does anybody know something about this odd looking
 meteorite?
 
 The auctioneer insists that it is a meteorite and she claims
 it was sold for
 $1,600.
 Apparently, they have larger specimens from the same shower
 and they will
 offer them in upcoming sales.
 
 Here it is:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/7cl5mcj
 
 Cheers
 
 Werner Schroer
 Australia
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] 1099 gram Tissint

2012-01-30 Thread Thomas Webb
Darryl,
Nice Rock!  I hope to see it one day.
Thomas


--- On Mon, 1/30/12, Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com wrote:

 From: Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] 1099 gram Tissint
 To: Meteorite-list List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Monday, January 30, 2012, 9:16 AM
 
 Hi, 
 
 While previously announced by Dave Gheesling on Facebook, it
 is worth noting here as well the existence of a Tissint that
 weighs 1099.8 gram.
 
 http://www.fallingrocks.com/Collections/Tissint.htm
 
 Dave and I co-own the specimen.  
 
 
 Warmly / Darryl 
 
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[meteorite-list] Request for an email address

2011-09-20 Thread Thomas Webb
List,
I need a workable email address for Aid Mohamed.  Reply off list if you have 
one.
Thank you very much,
Thomas
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[meteorite-list] Abdelaziz Alhyane

2011-07-04 Thread Thomas Webb
List,
Does anyone know where Abdelaziz Alhyane is?
Thomas
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Re: [meteorite-list] Blaine Reed

2011-06-06 Thread Thomas Webb
Dave and List,
No surprises here!  That's exactly what I would have expected from Blaine.  We 
have completed hundreds of transactions over the years after another old 
reliable dealer friend, David New, recommended him to me, and all have been 
good ones.  I am happy for you Dave that that other piece showed up!  This 
makes your great colledtion even better.
My best to all,
Thomas

--- On Mon, 6/6/11, Dave Gheesling d...@fallingrocks.com wrote:

 From: Dave Gheesling d...@fallingrocks.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Blaine Reed
 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 11:03 PM
 Hi List,
 
 Just wanted to send a quick note of admiration regarding
 Blaine Reed, who
 most of you surely know by now.  Follow this link,
 click Featured, then
 click Deport and read the brief Remarks:
 http://www.fallingrocks.com/collection.htm  Such a
 pleasure to do business
 with dealers who do the right thing...even when they don't
 have to.
 
 Oh, and a special thank you to my good friend Sean Murray,
 who recently made
 my posting site a much more pleasant place to surf...much
 appreciated!
 
 All the best,
 
 Dave Gheesling
 IMCA #5967
 www.fallingrocks.com 
 
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[meteorite-list] Stump Spring or Stump Springs

2011-04-25 Thread Thomas Webb
List,
Everyone, including Count Deiro is calling it Stump Springs.  The bulletin 
lists it as Stump Spring.  Which is correct?  I'm curious.  Did it get reported 
as Stump Springs and they dropped the s that made it plural by mistake, or is 
Stump Spring the correct name?
Thanks,
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[meteorite-list] AD - Bensour

2011-04-24 Thread Philippe Thomas

Hi all,

I sorted out my stock and my collection because I move to another home 
in August.

I found a beautiful piece of Bensour which weighs 74.45 g.
It's composed by the main meteorite weighing 64.93 g, a fragment 
weighing 9.29 g and small crumbs in a membrane box.

It's a piece collected just after the fall and which did not receive a rain.
The big fragment fits perfectly the main meteorite.
The price is $500 with free shipping (Paypal).
Here are the pictures:
http://www.meteoritica.com/img/bensour-74.45-1.jpg
http://www.meteoritica.com/img/bensour-74.45-2.jpg
http://www.meteoritica.com/img/bensour-74.45-3.jpg
http://www.meteoritica.com/img/bensour-74.45-4.jpg

Best wishes,
Philippe

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Re: [meteorite-list] OT -Oil reserves, the reality

2011-04-09 Thread Thomas Webb
Michael,
Art has spoken on this thread!
Best,
Thomas


--- On Sat, 4/9/11, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote:

 From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT -Oil reserves, the reality
 To: valpar...@aol.com, Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 3:10 PM
 The parts to build your own solar
 panels are now readily available
 At highly competitive prices.
         I paid $27K when I refinanced
 my house to go solar and most
 Months my bill is $5.75 (for staying hooked up to the
 grid so I get
 Even electrical flow day and night summer and winter and do
 not
 Have to mess with batteries.
         In addition, the Govn't kicked
 in between $18K  $20K for the
 Installation.
         However, today you can do it
 yourself f(or a few hundreds of
 dollars for small projects - like a workshop or office)
 or for a couple
 Thousand for the entire home, including enough to charge an
 electric
 Car. Skills and equipment require the ownership and ability
 to use
 A hammer, soldering iron and screw driver. Some of the
 solar units
 that make up an array can now be had for pennies, and the $
 is in the
 Solder and plastiglass. It is scary cheap.
         I would never use a battery
 bank except in the woods or something.
         If you want to know more about
 it I wrote an article on it at:
 
 http://greenby2019.eproduct-review.com/
 
         Michael
 
 
 On 4/8/11 4:46 PM, valpar...@aol.com
 valpar...@aol.com
 wrote:
 
  Meteorites USA wrote:
  
      Go electric
  
  Yeah, 'cuz electricity is generated far, far away, so
 my backyard won't get
  messed up and someone else's neighborhood will be
 scourged by solar fields and
  windmill farms!
  
  It was observed during the last price run-up that
 people's driving habits
  actually started to become more conservative as gas
 approached $4 per gallon.
  IMHO, a positive step provided by market forces.
  
  Paul
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[meteorite-list] My Earlier Post

2011-04-09 Thread Thomas Webb
List,
My preceding post was supposed to be a gentle off-list reminder to Michael that 
Art had ended the OT thread however it made it to the list as well.  Sorry.
TW
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[meteorite-list] AD: Ebay - Cumberland Falls, Ghubara, North Chile, Norton County, Peekskill, Siena, Squaw Creek, NWA 5386, 5480, 6004

2011-03-25 Thread Stalder Thomas
Dear list members,

A few rare small meteorite slices and fragments next to LDG Gem quality and 
other stones are available on E-Bay ending in about 2 days (Sunday morning 
PDT). 


No reserve, low starting bid, some still at USD 1.99 !

Please have a look if interested.

http://stores.ebay.com/SAHARAGEMS-DESERT-STONES-and-more?_rdc=1

Thanks and happy weekend.

Thomas

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[meteorite-list] AD: Ebay - Breitscheid, Karoonda, Murchison, Odessa, Queen's Mercy, Zagami, NWA 4024, 4025, 5363, 5391, 5697

2011-03-18 Thread Stalder Thomas
Dear list members,

A few rare small meteorite slices and fragments next to LDG Gem quality and 
other stones are available on E-Bay ending in about 2 days (Sunday morning 
PDT). 


No reserve, low starting bid, some still at USD 1.99 !

Please have a look if interested.

http://stores.ebay.com/SAHARAGEMS-DESERT-STONES-and-more?_rdc=1

Thanks and happy weekend.

Thomas

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[meteorite-list] AD: Ebay - Boriskino, Claxton, North Chile, Quenggouk, Utzenstorf, NWA 800, NWA 2696, NWA 4024, NWA 4482, NWA 5239

2011-03-11 Thread Stalder Thomas
Dear list members,

A few rare small meteorite slices and fragments next to LDG Gem quality and 
other stones are available on E-Bay ending in about 2 days (Sunday morning 
PDT). 



No reserve, low starting bid, some still at USD 1.99 !

Please have a look if interested.

http://stores.ebay.com/SAHARAGEMS-DESERT-STONES-and-more?_rdc=1

Thanks and happy weekend.

Thomas

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[meteorite-list] AD: Ebay - Crumlin, La Primitiva, Nakhla, New Orleans, Vigarano, NWA 859 Taza, NWA 4379, NWA 4522, NWA 4647, NWA 6047

2011-03-04 Thread Stalder Thomas
Dear list members,

A few rare small meteorite slices and fragments next to LDG Gem quality and 
other stones are available on E-Bay ending in about 2 days (Sunday morning 
PDT). 

No reserve, low starting bid, some still at USD 1.99 !

Please have a look if interested.

http://stores.ebay.com/SAHARAGEMS-DESERT-STONES-and-more?_rdc=1

Thanks and happy weekend.

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[meteorite-list] AD: Ebay - Meteorites ALLENDE, ASSISI, ATOKA, BJURBÖLE, GUANACO, DANIEL'S KUIL, ELLA ISLAND, IBBENBÜREN, SACRAMENTO MTS, NWA 5240

2011-02-25 Thread Stalder Thomas
Dear list members,

A few small meteorite slices and fragments next to LDG Gem quality and other 
stones are 

available on E-Bay ending in about 2 days (Sunday morning PDT). No 
reserve, low starting bid, some still at USD 1.99 !

Please have a look if interested.

http://stores.ebay.com/SAHARAGEMS-DESERT-STONES-and-more?_rdc=1

Thanks and happy weekend.

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[meteorite-list] AD: Ebay - Ivuna, North Chile, NWA 4379, NWA 4482, NWA 5240 and LDG gems

2011-02-18 Thread Stalder Thomas
Dear list members,

A few small meteorite slices and fragments next to LDG and other stuff are 
available on E-Bay ending in about 2 days (Sunday morning PDT). No 
reserve, low starting bid, some still at USD 1.99 !

Please have a look if interested.

More meteorites soon on Ebay like Assisi, Bjurböle, Daniel's Kuil, 
Ella Island, Ibbenbüren, Sacramento Mts 

Thanks and enjoy your weekend.
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[meteorite-list] AD: Ebay - Ivuna, North Chile meteorites .....

2011-02-18 Thread Stalder Thomas

Hi all,

So sorry, here the link to my auctions:

http://stores.ebay.com/SAHARAGEMS-DESERT-STONES-and-more?_rdc=1

Anyway,
Have a nice weekend once again...
Thomas


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2011

2011-02-06 Thread Thomas Webb
Walter,
Here's a link to Geoff's book.
Thomas

http://meteoritehunters.tv/





--- On Sun, 2/6/11, Walter Branch waltbra...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 From: Walter Branch waltbra...@bellsouth.net
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2011
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, wahlpe...@aol.com
 Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 9:00 PM
  out Geoff Notkin's new meteorite
 hunting book.
 
 What book?  Did I miss something?
 
 -Walter
 - Original Message - From: wahlpe...@aol.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 8:00 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2011
 
 
  Hi List,
  
  We just wanted to say what a great time we had in
 Tucson. It is always exciting to see all of our friends in
 the meteorite community as well as meeting new meteorite
 enthusiasts. We saw some great meteorites including a huge
 Semychan meteorite in Marvin Kilgore's display. The Birthday
 Bash was a lot of fun for everyone, even the fuzzy white
 cat. A special thanks to John Blennert for giving us a
 wonderful insight on hunting the Gold Basin strewnfield. If
 it wasn't for John I probably still wouldn't know what a
 meteorite looks like! Thanks to Michael Blood for a great
 auction. Everyone enjoys the auction and the camaraderie.
 Twink's Gold Basin cake was delicious. Some lucky winners
 were able to  find a meteorite in their pieces of cake!
 Ruben and the Woodell's did a terrific job with the live
 broadcast. Arizona Keith and Gary Fujihara were
 excellent  at capturing the pictures and getting them
 online for everyone. The weather started out very cold but
 today it is 70 degrees at 5PM.  If any of you get a
 chance you should check out Geoff Notkin's new meteorite
 hunting book. Another must have for your collection. On a
 side note Brix took his snake avoidance training refresher
 course. We used live rattlesnakes that had been muzzled
 (that's something to see a muzzled rattlesnake). Within
 moments Brix picked up the scent of the snake and made a
 hasty retreat to the car. We are glad to see he has retained
 his training and remembers the smell of a rattler.
  
  
  Sonny, Georgia and Brix
  
  
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[meteorite-list] Birthday Bash

2011-02-04 Thread Thomas Webb
Happy birthday to Geoff and Steve and many thanks to Ruben for putting the live 
feed together.  It was fun!
My best,
Thomas


  
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[meteorite-list] AD: Ebay, meteorites Ghubara, North Chile, Assisi, Orgeuil, NWA 5554 and more

2011-01-28 Thread Stalder Thomas
Dear list members,

I offer a few small but quite rare meteorite slices and fragments next to LDG 
and other stuff
on E-Bay ending in about 2 days (Sunday morning PDT). No reserve, low starting 
bid, some still at USD 1.99

Please have a look if interested.

http://stores.ebay.com/SAHARAGEMS-DESERT-STONES-and-more?_rdc=1

PLEASE NOTE THAT I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SHIP BEFORE END OF COMING WEEK (around 
4rd of February). I'M ACTUALLY ON A CRISIS INTERVENTION MISSION TO CAIRO, EGYPT 
FOR MY EMPLOYER BECAUSE OF THE ONGOING RIOTS AND POLITICAL CRISIS OVER HERE.

Best regards and Happy weekend
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[meteorite-list] AD: Some rare meteorites - Utzenstorf, Assisi, North Chile and NWA 4647, NWA 5554, NWA 2932

2011-01-13 Thread Stalder Thomas
Dear list members,

I offer a few small but quite rare meteorite slices and fragments next to LDG 
on E-Bay ending in about 2 days (Sunday morning PDT). No reserve, low starting 
bid, some still at USD 1.99

Please have a look if interested.

http://stores.ebay.com/SAHARAGEMS-DESERT-STONES-and-more?_rdc=1

Best regards and Happy weekend
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - January 8, 2011

2011-01-07 Thread Thomas Webb
John and Michael,

Absolutely beautiful!

My best,
Thomas



--- On Fri, 1/7/11, Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org wrote:

 From: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - January 8, 2011
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 11:38 PM
 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/January_8_2011.html
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[meteorite-list] Some historical meteorites - Arriba, Assisi, Atoka, Crumlin, Siena

2011-01-05 Thread Stalder Thomas
Dear list members,

I offer a few small but quite rare meteorite fragments and some really nice GEM 
quality LDG on E-Bay ending in about 30hrs. No reserve, low starting bid, some 
still at USD 1.99

Please have a look if interested.

http://stores.ebay.com/SAHARAGEMS-DESERT-STONES-and-more?_rdc=1

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Re: [meteorite-list] sad news

2010-12-20 Thread Thomas Webb
Hi Steve,
I am very sorry for your loss.  I can empathize with you as we lost a beautiful 
11 1/2 year old granddaughter the day after Christmas two years ago.
Blessings to you, your wife and her whole family as well,
Thomas

--- On Sun, 12/19/10, steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] sad news
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Sunday, December 19, 2010, 2:14 PM
 Hello all.I want to wish everyone the
 world over a truly Merry Cristmas.Our 
 holidays were saddened today.I got news that my wife's
 older brother died 
 suddenly in his sleep.He had been ill for sometime but
 nothing like was 
 expected.We are still in shock.He was 61 years old.Again I
 do not want to burden 
 anyone down, but as they say,we are family.Happy holidays
 all.
  Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Magazine

2010-12-14 Thread Thomas Webb
Larry, John, Leo, Dennis and others,
Some may be confusing Meteorite Magazine with the new Meteorite Hunting and 
Collecting Magazine.  As far as I know only one issue of that one has been 
mailed, at least that's all I have received.
Cheers,
Thomas

--- On Tue, 12/14/10, lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu wrote:

 From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Magazine
 To: John Teague volg...@icx.net
 Cc: Leoncio Cividanes �lvarez supeind...@hotmail.com, Meteorite list 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 8:45 AM
 Hi Everyone:
 
 Part of the reason Nancy and I finally resigned as Editors
 of Meteorite
 was the lack of transparency with respect to things like
 subscriptions and
 how they were handled (Maria Haas, Nancy, and I tried to
 resolve this when
 we worked on the August issue, just before things happened
 that led to our
 resignation). I do not know how this might change now that
 everything is
 being done at the University of Arkansas where the magazine
 is actually
 published.
 
 If you only received the first issue, it is because you did
 not pay for
 2010. Subscribers get the February issue and a notice to
 renew (not sure
 how this is done) and if they do not hear from you, I think
 that they just
 let your subscription expire (at least that is how I think
 it worked).
 Not the way I would like to see it handled and maybe with
 new people in
 Arkansas, things will improve.
 
 Frustrated ex-editor.
 
 Larry Lebofsky
 
  I have only received the first issue, too!  Still
 looking for issue 2!!!
 
  John Teague
  Knoxville, TN
 
 
  -Original Message-
 From: Leoncio Cividanes Álvarez supeind...@hotmail.com
 Sent: Dec 14, 2010 2:45 AM
 To: Meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Magazine
 
 
 Me too. Just the first issue (international).
 
 clear skies,
 Leo
 
  
   From: edeck...@triad.rr.com
   To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
   Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 00:23:50 -0500
   Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite
 Magazine
  
  
   I have only received the first issue so
 far.
  
   Ed
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Dennis Miller
   To:
   Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 11:53 PM
   Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite
 Magazine
  
  
   
   
   
Hello, Meteorite subscribers Has
 anyone received their
November issue of Meteorite
 Magazine? I know it went to
the printers late but was starting
 to have panic attacks,
haven't received my copy yet...
   
Hyperventilating Dennis
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
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Re: [meteorite-list] NASA Finds New Life Form

2010-12-05 Thread Thomas

God is the strange attractor at the end of the universe.

Thomas M
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake

2010-11-15 Thread Thomas
Another good point that people often don't think of is to remove jewelry 
on the affected limb. Rings especially. The swelling from a snakebite is 
unbelievable. A hand can get almost as big as a soccer ball. A ring left 
on will cost you that finger.


Transport fast and call ahead if possible, it takes awhile to get 
antivenom ready.


Thomas M
-former Mojave area ER nurse

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[meteorite-list] private property with owner permission

2010-11-09 Thread Thomas

Adam Hupe wrote:
time to start searching private property with owner permission

Anyone have any advice on acquiring permission? Is a handshake enough or 
should you work up a contract? What's the usual and customary 
compensation? Splits, leases?


Thomas M
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunting Rats

2010-11-09 Thread Thomas
I went hunting with a rat once. When I got back to camp he had drank all 
the beer.


Thomas M
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[meteorite-list] Petroglyphs

2010-11-04 Thread Thomas
Speaking of petroglyphs. Does anyone know the location of the Vally of 
the Yoni's In Nevada?
All I know of it is that Tom Robbins did a short travel story about it. 
Sounded fascinating.

I've always wanted to look for meteorites there : )

Thomas M
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Re: [meteorite-list] Petroglyphs

2010-11-04 Thread Thomas



On 11/4/2010 9:00 AM, Count Deiro wrote:
Dave Holt, has never heard of the Valley of the Yoni in Nevada,

Count,
I was concerned that I might not be remembering this correctly so I 
rechecked the source. It was in a story by Tom Robbins titled Canyon of 
the Vaginas, so I did get it wrong, but in my defense I think he refers 
to it as valley of the yonis in the text.


Canyon of the Vaginas may not be the correct name either. Robbins made 
it clear that he was aware of the potential for abuse at these sights so 
he may have altered the name to help protect the place, or may have 
simply created a name that he thought was more humorous.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Secret BLM maps

2010-11-04 Thread Thomas



On 11/4/2010 12:10 PM, Adam Hupe wrote:

I hope you were not in Oregon or Washington State when you talked to this BLM
officer.  If you were, do not mention the word meteorites because they are now
off limits


We were calm and cool and did not mention meteorites at all. He did not 
seem to be aware of that possibility and we didn't see a need to educate 
him : )
Our plan if we were to find anything was to photograph them and record 
the location and then to contact Dick Pugh in Portland without removing 
them, so we had no intention of violating their laws anyway, but of 
course no sense getting them worked up about unnecessarily : )


Thomas M
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[meteorite-list] Secret BLM maps ?

2010-11-03 Thread Thomas
Last week I was walking along a dry lake bed and looked up to see the 
inevitable white truck parked next to mine. I walked back and had a nice 
talk with a BLM officer. He was concerned that we were picking up 
artifacts, which we were not. My wife mentioned that we were going to 
look for some petroglyphs and asked him about the roads in that area. 
No Mam, he says. We can't tell you anything about locations. In fact 
there are many more petroglyphs and over a hundred caves that are not on 
your maps and we can't tell you anything about.


Which makes me think that these locations must be a matter of record 
somewhere. Does the BLM have secret maps not available to the public?


Thomas M

Petroglyph pictures if anyone's interested : 
http://www.photoblog.com/GreyDX/


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Re: [meteorite-list] Rare Earth Magnets Might Get Rarer!

2010-10-26 Thread Thomas

On 10/20/2010 8:23 PM, Meteorites USA wrote:

Someone, quick, start a rare earth mineral mining company


Woo-hoo!
I bought MCP months ago !

Thomas M
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Re: [meteorite-list] Announcement...New Website is now up! Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders

2010-10-16 Thread Thomas Webb
Don,

WONDERFUL!

My best,
Thomas



--- On Sat, 10/16/10, Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com wrote:

 From: Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Announcement...New Website is now up! Cosmic 
 Treasures Celestial Wonders
 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Cc: Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com
 Date: Saturday, October 16, 2010, 10:27 PM
 Hi List. I apologize that I have been
 away off the list for a long time. The reason is I decided
 to fulfill a long awaited dream of mine and create a website
 dedicated to meteorites and astronomy. I spent about a year
 and almost 2000 hours researching to put this together and
 ended up to be much longer then I anticipated. For those who
 know me I wanted to do it right and do not like to cut
 corners. This site is dedicated on my daughters birthday
 today, but is for all of you collectors out there and
 especially for those new to the field. There is no site like
 it in the world in my opinion. My eBay Info page will help
 many newbie's to the hobby and many of you will agree after
 viewing it, that it was about time something so detailed
 came along, which will help many new and veteran collectors.
 Though I have not listed any meteorites as of yet (shooting
 for first of the year) on my meteorite sales page, my format
 will be different then most of the dealers and sellers who
 already sell on their sites. I will not have the variety
 like they do. My plan is to only put up several type each
 couple of months. Those meteorites will be the rarest of the
 rare and hardest to acquire and or most historical. I posted
 about 5 months ago on my intentions of this website which is
 called Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders and wanted to
 thank those that contacted me with what I needed. I hope you
 will take the time to look over my site as it is very
 educational and the resources and tools will hopefully put
 me in your favorites! I designed this site for the new
 astronomer and new meteorite collector by using the many
 years I have involved with astronomy and meteorites and from
 the lessons I have learned. I hope my experience will
 suffice to all of you out there. Please feel free to pass my
 site along to those who you feel will gain from it. Hope you
 enjoy it and glad to finally have time to get back to the
 real world! My site address is below.
 
 Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders   
 www.ctreasurescwonders.com
 
 Thank you.
 Sincerely
 Don Merchant
 Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders
 IMCA #0960 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-14 Thread Thomas



On 10/13/2010 7:22 PM, JoshuaTreeMuseum wrote:

If the universe is random, then why is it so orderly and predictable?


Because the dice are loaded.
(not a joke)

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Re: [meteorite-list] Divining and dowsing-a question

2010-10-14 Thread Thomas

 no specific quote cited

I am led to conclude that meteorites are much like UFO's. They attract 
some fascinating characters : )


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Re: [meteorite-list] New Gebel Kamil meteorite with Schlering bands, what do they look like?

2010-10-02 Thread Thomas Webb
Hi Tim,
Try a little different spelling or just go to this article by Jim Tobin in 
Meteorite Times:

http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2004/January/Tektite_of_Month.htm

My best,
Thomas

--- On Sat, 10/2/10, Tim Heitz midwestmet...@earthlink.net wrote:

 From: Tim Heitz midwestmet...@earthlink.net
 Subject: [meteorite-list] New Gebel Kamil meteorite with Schlering bands, 
 what do they look like?
 To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 9:47 PM
 Hello List,
 
 This is a slice of the New Gebel Kamil meteorite from 
 Egypt, it is an Ataxite and it is ungrouped which makes it
 unique and is one of a kind in composition
 
 
 http://www.meteorman.org/Gebel-Kamil-slice-77g-640.jpg
 
 Could someone tell me what are Schlering bands, are
 those  Schlering bands in the picture??
 
 I did a Google search, but didn't find any information
 about Schlering Bands.
 
 
 Tim Heitz
 
 MIDWEST METEORITES  http://www.meteorman.org
 
 314-596-1435
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 International Meteorite Collectors Association
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Oregon meteorite generating interest -The Columbian

2010-09-22 Thread Thomas

 This is the Fitzwater Pass meteorite.

This area is a National Forest.
Am I correct in beliving that we can not even look there? What if one 
were to trip over a meteorite in an area like this? Photograph it, 
record the location, and try to get forest service officials interested? 
Anything else?


Thomas
-who lives nearby
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[meteorite-list] Extraordinary LIBYAN DESERT GLASS Museum Piece 10'000ct

2010-09-06 Thread Stalder Thomas
Dear List Members,

This is the last chance to get this extraordinary piece for a really good 
price. 

This Ebay auction is ending in about 3 days.

There is an interested buyer, who will take it after the auction ends. I'm 
offering this Libyan Desert Glass for a very good friend of mine (located in 
France). He found it personally some years ago.

Here it is:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=220652386344ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT



Pls note that I may have only limited internet access to answer questions 
until 12th of September (pls see item description).

Best regards,

Thomas
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[meteorite-list] Fw: Book Wanted

2010-09-05 Thread Thomas Webb
List,
I'm still looking for a copy!
TW



--- On Fri, 9/3/10, Thomas Webb webb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Thomas Webb webb...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Book Wanted
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Friday, September 3, 2010, 12:12 PM

 List,
 Do any of you have a copy of A Color Atlas of Meteorites in
 Thin Section by Lauretta and Killgore that you would like to
 sell at a discounted price?  Email me offlist if you
 do.
 Thanks,
 Thomas
 
 
       
 
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[meteorite-list] Book Wanted

2010-09-03 Thread Thomas Webb
List,
Do any of you have a copy of A Color Atlas of Meteorites in Thin Section by 
Lauretta and Killgore that you would like to sell at a discounted price?  Email 
me offlist if you do.
Thanks,
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Re: [meteorite-list] Blaine Reed

2010-08-15 Thread Thomas Webb
Wendy? 
Glad to hear he's improving.
Thomas

--- On Mon, 8/16/10, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com wrote:

 From: Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Blaine Reed
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 12:34 AM
 Spoke to Blaine this pm. He is slowly
 getting over the chicken pox. His wife Wendy has avoided
 it.
 
 Chris Spratt
 Victoria, BC
 (Via my iPhone)
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[meteorite-list] Unsafe Photobucket Sites

2010-08-10 Thread Thomas Webb
List,
My Norton Anti-virus program has deemed every Photobucket link I've clicked on 
lately an unsafe site.  Evidently there are some viruses such as Downloader and 
BloodhoundExploit.281 lurking in there!
Thoma


  

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[meteorite-list] Zaouia el Hajoui

2010-08-07 Thread Philippe Thomas
Hello all,

We are proud to announce the find of an exceptional oriented meteorite.

Here are links for photos and information:

http://www.meteoritica.com/zaouia%20el%20hajoui.htm
http://www.meteoritica.com/hunting%20zaouia%20el%20hajoui.htm

Enjoy!

Philippe  Lea
METEORITICA
www.meteoritica.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - July 28, 2010 Congratulations to All

2010-07-28 Thread Thomas Webb
Michael and list,
Thanks for the photos of these distinguished members of The Meteoritical 
Society.  Congratulations are in order to Hiroshi Takeda for his work toward a 
better understanding of HED achondrites and the lunar crust; to William K. 
Hartmann for his work on impact cratering phenomena as well as his work on the 
origin of our moon; to Joel Schiff who founded METEORITE magazine in 1995; and 
to Daniel Glavin for his contributions to the field of organic cosmochemistry.  
We also need to congratulate Bethany Ehlmann on receiving the Pellas-Ryder 
Award for her 2008 paper in SCIENCE, Orbital Identification of 
Carbonate-bearing Rocks on Mars, and also congratulations to Gregory Brennecka, 
recipient of the Brian Mason Award for his abstract on 238U/235U Variations In 
Meteoritic Materials.
My best,
Thomas H. Webb

--- On Wed, 7/28/10, Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org wrote:

 From: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - July 28, 2010
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 10:04 AM
 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/July_28_2010.html
 
 
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 20, 2010

2010-05-19 Thread Thomas Webb
Good Job Dave and thanks Michael!
My best,
Thomas


--- On Wed, 5/19/10, Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org wrote:

 From: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 20, 2010
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 10:12 PM
 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/May_20_2010.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[meteorite-list] AD: Almahata Sitta, Twannberg, North Chile, NWA 5554 Documentary on HISTORY channel

2010-05-07 Thread Stalder Thomas
Dear list members,

I have a few small but quite rare meteorite fragments and some really nice GEM 
quality LDG on E-Bay ending coming Sunday around 11am PDT. Some still at 99 
cents. Pls have a look if interested.

http://stores.ebay.com/SAHARAGEMS-DESERT-STONES-and-more?_rdc=1

Further I have a question. A few months ago a film production company asked me 
if they could use some pictures I published on flickr.com. The pictures showing 
Libyan Desert Glass cut and polished slices (no idea why they choose this ones 
:-).

Finally I got a mail yesterday, that my pictures will be shown (I guess for a 
few seconds) in a documentary on History Channel on Tuesday, May 18, 8/7c

http://www.history.com/shows/ancient-aliens
Episode 4 - Closer Encounters

Is it possible for somebody here on the list (based in the US) to record this 
episode for me on a DVD ? I do not have access to this channel from here in 
Switzerland. I will pay for the DVD or offer in exchange one of the newly cut 
and polished slices of LDG (one is on Ebay right now). The DVD will be used 
only in private (no copying). I know that I can purchase the DVD later from 
History Channel but I don't like to wait until it's available.

Pls let me know off list.

Thanks. Wishing all a nice weekend.
Tom

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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Into Clock Tower!

2010-03-31 Thread Thomas Webb
http://www.stratfordpress.co.nz/local/news/meteorite-crashes-into-clock-tower/3911990/


  

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[meteorite-list] email address question

2010-02-27 Thread Thomas Webb
Hello list,
Does anyone have a workable email address for Rodrigo Martinez?
Thomas


  

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[meteorite-list] Fw: Re: Trespassers will be movie stars...

2010-02-17 Thread Thomas Webb


--- On Wed, 2/17/10, Thomas Webb webb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Thomas Webb webb...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Trespassers will be movie stars...
 To: Galactic Stone  Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com, 
 meteorite-lis...@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 8:41 PM
 Hello Mike,
 I believe Sonny is a good guy and an asset to the meteorite
 community.  Having said that, I object to your
 disparaging terminology, backwards hillbilly and redneck
 as well as cue the banjos.
 I'm a hillbilly from North Carolina and proud of it. 
 If you must talk about the judge and others from the area do
 it off the list or if you must use offensive terms on the
 list, which is forbidden by list policy, at least use some
 that would not be directed to a certain region. 
 Perhaps you could just use that word which begins with a and
 ends with e, which seems to be universally understood and is
 not considered to be endemic to any specific area.
 Thanks,
 Thomas
 
 
 
 
 
 --- On Wed, 2/17/10, Galactic Stone  Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Galactic Stone  Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Trespassers will be
 movie stars...
  To: Jason Chadwick jasonchadwic...@yahoo.com
  Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 3:15 PM
  Hi Jason and List,
  
  That Georgia judge is backwards hillbilly.  Sonny
 and
  Mike are two of
  the nicest guys in the meteorite world and their
 problem
  in Georgia
  had everything to do with redneck BS and nothing to do
 with
  Sonny or
  Mike doing anything wrong intentionally.
  
  No offense to Georgia collectors (Hi Noah!), but
 after
  hearing what
  that judge said, I'd rather die than live in
 Georgia. 
  Remember -
  Georgia still has an all-white town that runs out
 black
  people.
  
  (cue the banjos)
  
  Best regards,
  
  MikeG
  
  
  On 2/17/10, Jason Chadwick jasonchadwic...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
   Hey,
  
   That is just great Steve Arnold of meteorite
  men.  Did not Sonny Clary get
   arrested last year in Georgia. Literally chased
 out of
  the state?  Your show
   is irresponsible.
  
   Jason Chadwick
  
  
  
  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Matters Arising

2010-02-03 Thread Thomas Webb
Elizabeth,
Thank you for your defense of us who live in Southern USA.  I still feel a 
little touchy about a discussion that occurred on the list several years ago, 
soon after I joined, in which those of us who live in Southern USA were made 
fun of, and to compound it, one of those who made the most disparaging remarks 
works for a governmental agency and is being paid with our tax dollars!
The terms hicks and rednecks do not neccessarily equate with 
unintelligent.  Some of the best thinkers I know of have been, at times,  
referred to in this manner by some people from our northern states.  I'm sure 
constitutional attorney Sam Ervin who referred to himself as just a country 
lawyer is one of them (he lived in a town about 30 miles from me).  I think 
it's unfortunate that Peter used these terms to express his displeasure with 
the gun photos while I defend his right to show displeasure.  I live in an area 
of NC largely settled by Scottish Highlanders and where we have the best 
Highland Games in the country.  I would invite Peter and all of you to come 
this year, the second week in July.  I think the photos were all in fun but in 
retrospect those involved probably wish they had kept them private.
I will mention another term, meteorite, just to keep this legal for the list 
:).
My best,
Thomas


--- On Wed, 2/3/10, Elizabeth Warner warne...@astro.umd.edu wrote:

 From: Elizabeth Warner warne...@astro.umd.edu
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Matters Arising
 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 12:44 PM
 Hey Ya'll!
 
 I don't know the individuals involved on either side of
 this discussion. But not all gun owners are irresponsible.
 As I'm sure not all Scots are arrogant drunkards. (See
 stereotyping can go both ways!)
 
 And while I was not pleased to see the photos showing the
 irresponsible handling of the guns (sure, take your pics,
 keep them private, but to show them publicly??), I do
 believe in the right to bear arms!
 
 However, I was even more taken aback by Peter's statement
 never thought I would see the day when I would be sharing
 correspondence with hicks and rednecks!
 
 And what is wrong with a 'hick' or 'redneck'??
 
 As an exchange student in Germany 20 years ago, I was
 explaining to one of my German friends what a redneck was (I
 am from the American south... South Carolina!)... And I
 started to describe it in somewhat derogatory terms
 until her father walked in and past and I saw he had one of
 the reddest necks I've ever seen and he was a hardworking
 farmer... I managed to correct myself before I insulted
 him.
 
 I have found that many 'hicks' and 'rednecks' are in fact
 well educated and more tolerant than Peter shows himself to
 be!
 
 Clear Skies!
 Elizabeth
 warne...@astro.umd.edu
 301-405-6555
 
 A true 'GRITS'... Gal Raised in the South!
 
 
 
 
 
 Galactic Stone  Ironworks wrote:
  Hi Bernd and List,
  
  I can vouch that Peter is an asset to the List and I
 would hate to see
  him leave because some of us Americans can't keep our
 childish
  impulses under control.
  
  I currently own one gun and have owned several,
 including assault
  weapons.  I support the right to private
 ownership of firearms.  But,
  I also believe that all firearms should be treated
 with respect and
  they have a proper place.  My current firearm has
 not left it's lock
  box in over a year - and the last time it was removed
 was for a
  cleaning.  I would be a happy man if my gun is
 never discharged or
  brandished.
  
  Again, assuming the pistol that started all of this is
 real, juvenile
  tomfoolery with guns is not only irresponsible, but
 it's also
  off-topic for this list.
  
  Unfortunately, I will catch some flak from my fellow
 Americans for
  stating this in public, but we are an arrogant bunch
 and we think our
  way is always the right way.  As a whole, we have
 little consideration
  for the cultures or beliefs of others.
  
  To be sure, there are a few right-leaning List members
 who think that
  Peter just needs to drink a Coca Cola, smoke a
 Marlboro cigarette,
  drink a Starbucks coffee, and watch a mindless
 Hollywood 3-D movie.
  And then Peter will realize the errors of his
 ways.  If not, we will
  declare him a terrorist and bomb Scotland. 
 Problem solved.
  
  ;)
  
  Best regards,
  
  MikeG
  
  
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[meteorite-list] New fall in the USA

2010-01-25 Thread Thomas Kurtz
Hello list,

Small Meteorite Crashes Through Doctor’s Office:

http://www.redorbit.com/news/space/1812791/small_meteorite_crashes_through_doctors_office/

Who lives nearby and could do some interviews about the sightings of this 
fireball?
Perhaps more material is waiting on the streets for hunters ?


With best wishes from crater Ries/Germany.

Thomas Kurtz
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Pairing Discussions-Still Looking for Answers

2010-01-19 Thread Thomas Webb


--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Thomas Webb webb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Thomas Webb webb...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Pairing Discussions
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Martin Altmann 
 altm...@meteorite-martin.de
 Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 9:04 PM
 List,
 Martin wrote--
 - Even if you're absolutely sure, that one of your stones
 is paired to one
 or several existing NWA-numbers, you are not allowed in no
 case to use one
 of these numbers.
 
 I think I understand the reasoning behind what has been put
 forth in this discussion so far and abide with it in my own
 dealings, however, I must wonder why practically everyone on
 the list who deals in meteorites has not had their probably
 paired with NWA 869 stones classified with a new number
 rather than just listing them as NWA 869 even though they
 bought them as unclassified and probably paired
 with.  Is there some hypocrisy here?  Is it OK to
 make an eyeball pairing with 869 but not other NWA's? 
 Does no one care on this one simply because there is so much
 of it, so the rule does not apply?  Could it be that no
 one cares about getting a new number and classification if
 it's a meteorite that sells for pennies per gram, but if it
 sells for many dollars or hundreds of dollars per gram, then
 it becomes important?  Is it OK to bend or break the
 rules in some cases but not others?  Does greed ever
 enter into the equation?
 
 I've asked a lot of questions.  I'm certain there's
 someone here who can give reasonable answers.
 
 My best,
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Pairing Discussions

2010-01-18 Thread Thomas Webb
List,
Martin wrote--
- Even if you're absolutely sure, that one of your stones is paired to one
or several existing NWA-numbers, you are not allowed in no case to use one
of these numbers.

I think I understand the reasoning behind what has been put forth in this 
discussion so far and abide with it in my own dealings, however, I must wonder 
why practically everyone on the list who deals in meteorites has not had their 
probably paired with NWA 869 stones classified with a new number rather than 
just listing them as NWA 869 even though they bought them as unclassified and 
probably paired with.  Is there some hypocrisy here?  Is it OK to make an 
eyeball pairing with 869 but not other NWA's?  Does no one care on this one 
simply because there is so much of it, so the rule does not apply?  Could it be 
that no one cares about getting a new number and classification if it's a 
meteorite that sells for pennies per gram, but if it sells for many dollars or 
hundreds of dollars per gram, then it becomes important?  Is it OK to bend or 
break the rules in some cases but not others?  Does greed ever enter into the 
equation?

I've asked a lot of questions.  I'm certain there's someone here who can give 
reasonable answers.

My best,
Thomas


  

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