Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Times Magazine 20 Year Anniversary Issue
Thanks Paul and Jim for all the great magazines and hard work! Sonny -Original Message- From: Paul Harris via Meteorite-list To: Meteorite Mailing List Sent: Sun, May 15, 2022 8:36 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Times Magazine 20 Year Anniversary Issue Hello Everyone, The May issue of Meteorite Times is now up. It's hard to believe that this is our 20 year anniversary issue. Our first issue was in April 2002 back when Meteorite Times was monthly. We'd like to give a special thank you to all of the writers over the years who have contributed articles to Meteorite Times. And a special thank you to Martin Horejsi, James Tobin, John Kashuba, and Mitch Noda for their continued article support. With the May issue we have a new web hosting company providing better performance and as our old template was not being supported anymore I have created a new template using Elementor with an updated look but same layout functionality. If anyone notices any errors or strange behavior please contact me off list. https://www.meteorite-times.com/ Enjoy! Paul and Jim __ RARE CANYON DIABLO METEORITE Bonhams Natural History auction on May 17 offers 50+ lots of stellar planetary meteorite specimens, including a complete Canyon Diablo example with superb regmaglypts. Browse the auction and register to bid online. Link: https://www.bonhams.com/auction/27482/lot/3386/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ RARE CANYON DIABLO METEORITE Bonhams Natural History auction on May 17 offers 50+ lots of stellar planetary meteorite specimens, including a complete Canyon Diablo example with superb regmaglypts. Browse the auction and register to bid online. Link: https://www.bonhams.com/auction/27482/lot/3386/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] sad news from Twink Monrad
I am so very sorry to hear that. Steve was a wonderful and fun guy. My sincere condolences. Sonny -Original Message- From: Lawrence Monrad via Meteorite-list To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, Mar 29, 2022 8:10 am Subject: [meteorite-list] sad news from Twink Monrad I have some sad news to report. Steve Smith of Virginia passed away yesterday after a battle with cancer.He and Vickie were enthusiastic members of the meteorite world and were loyal and regular visitors to the Tucson Gem and Mineral Show. Many of us who became friends of theirs will remember their humor, kindness and all around goodness. Twink Monrad | | Virus-free. www.avast.com | __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Looking for Portales
Hi Dennis, if you are looking for Portales Valley and you want to contact me off list I know someone who has some of the most beautiful slices. I can put you in touch with him. Sonny Clary wahlpe...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Frank Cressy via Meteorite-list To: dennis beatty Cc: meteorite list Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2018 8:48 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Looking for Portales Hi Dennis, I assume you are looking for Portales Valley, the H7 metallic melt breccia that is a witnessed fall? However, there are 4 "Portales meteorites; Portales(a), Portales(b), Portales(c), and Portales Valley. Price on Portales Valley depends on whether it is all stone or shows metallic veining. Not real common to find full slices now, but Meteorite Market has some part slices for sale at about $40/gram. All the best, Frank On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 7:28 AM, dennis beatty via Meteorite-list wrote: I am interested in purchasing a whole slice of Portales. Can someone direct me to a good source...and let me know what I might expect to pay? Thanks! Dennis Beatty __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nininger's Meteorite Museum Ruins
Hi Karlis, The owner of the Land has closed the road leading to the ruins and posted no trespassing. We were told that they are worried about the building collapsing and possibly injuring someone. Sonny www.nevadameteorites.com -Original Message- From: Meteoriti.LV via Meteorite-list To: meteorite-list Sent: Fri, Jul 21, 2017 10:02 am Subject: [meteorite-list] Nininger's Meteorite Museum Ruins Dear Friends, Could somebody tell if that is possible and how to reach the Ruins of the old Nininger's Meteorite Museum? I heard that the road is closed but is there any way to visit a place? In a few weeks time we will visit US for the great Solar Eclipse and we have included Barringer crater in our car trip. I have never been there at the site so I would appreciate any advise. Thanks! Best Regards, Karlis Berzins Meteoriti.LV __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bolivia Meteorite Adventure
Hi Greg, Great story way to go! Sonny -Original Message- From: Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list To: meteorite-list Sent: Tue, Dec 13, 2016 8:51 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Bolivia Meteorite Adventure Bolivia Meteorite AdventureBy Gregory M. HupeOn November 20, 2016 a massive meteorite event took place over Aiquile, Bolivia at approximately 5:00 p.m. local time. While still daylight, Quechua Indian eyewitnesses saw ‘corkscrew’ smoke trails and heard ‘whooshing’ noises followed by sonic booms and then stones literally falling at their feet!Michael Farmer and I went to Aiquile to hunt for meteorites and attempt to acquire stones from the inhabitants. Things didn’t quite work out that way…Welcome to Aiquile Bolivia.http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia1.jpgPossibly the main mass, an approximately 35-kilogram impactor.http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia2.jpgTown Square in center of Aiquile.http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia3.jpgCharango guitar with caballero and bull sculpture in the town square.http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia4.jpgIt would take us over two weeks after the fall to fly to Bolivia due to Mike’s yearly show commitment in Japan. Just 24 hours at home after returning from the show, Michael flew to Florida to meet me. On December 8th we began our journey to South America from Miami. Our travels would take us by air to Aiquile by way of La Paz and then on to Cochabamba and then by private hire to Aiquile. With no sleep for over 30 hours of travel from home to the dusty town near the strewnfield, we were exhausted but too excited to rest. We went right to work meeting with fellow meteorite hunter, Dario Ruiz, who had been there for two weeks. He introduced us to individuals about hunting for meteorites or buying some, but our hopes were quickly dampened by the news of the town’s government putting up road blocks to deny access to the strewnfield. It turns out that the officials were confiscating stones from the Quechua finders which put them in a panic and afraid to talk to outsiders. Things quickly became complicated.Dario, Michael and Greg in Aiquile.http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia5.jpgView looking up the Aiquile strewnfield from the Quechua trail.http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia6.jpgCactus are a common beauty in the strewnfield.http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia7.jpgWe realized we were not going to be able to hunt for stones ourselves without the threat of arrest, or far worse, physical harm from protective villagers we were told may use force to stop outsiders from hunting. Knowing this, we immediately went to ‘Plan B’ and were granted secret meetings with owners of pieces from the fall. To our thrill and amazement, we were able to see several stones ranging from small broken fragments to large kilo-sized pieces. Throughout the 48-hours we were on site we were told of several large pieces included a 50-kilo ‘Puzzle Stone’ which we believe to be just rumor as is consistent with most falls.Reflecting upon a fresh meteorite.http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia8.jpg100-plus gram fragment.http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia9.jpgSame 100-gram fragment displaying ‘Slickensides’.http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia10.jpgInterior indicating a shocked high metal H Chondrite.http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia11.jpgOn our second day we had an early start with a scheduled meeting to see some stones, but being on ‘Bolivia time’ we sat for several hours waiting, waiting and waiting some more. To keep us from leaving and going to other contacts, our new friend entertained us with some guitar play dressed in his caballero ranch clothing made of javelina, lama and other durable animal skins. Aiquile is known as the ‘Capitol of Charango’ (guitar) where the guitar is manufactured. It was nice to enjoy this flavor of music high in the mountain village.Local Quechua playing a Charango guitar.http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia12.jpgVideo of the music of Bolivian friendship:http://www.naturesvault.net/Videos/AiquileBoliviaVideo1.mp4Newly fallen meteorite with Charango guitar.http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia13.jpgNoon was soon upon us with nobody bearing stones for us to consider so we walked down the street for lunch and chose one of a few street vendors offering potatoes and sausage. We ventured to the local market and town square for a little tourism while we were there. The meal was very tasty and the sightseeing was nice but we were eager to get back to work.Quechua offering an assortment of foods.http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileB
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Hi Doug and list, Wow what a great meteorite hunting adventure. Thank god you had the survival pack of Oatmeal cream pies and strawberry treat cakes to help make it through the night! Sonny -Original Message- From: Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list To: meteorite-list Sent: Sat, Apr 30, 2016 12:00 am Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Osceola Contributed by: Mexico Doug http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=04/30/2016 __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Prices for SouthWest Dry Lake Finds??? Old Women Meteorite
: ) -Original Message- From: Linton Rohr via Meteorite-list To: Jim Wooddell Cc: meteoritelist meteoritelist Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2016 2:10 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Prices for SouthWest Dry Lake Finds??? Old Women Meteorite Hi folks, I just came across this old thread regarding the Old Woman's "potential sisters". I'm wondering if there's been any further developments on their recovery. We stopped by the Barstow Discovery Center last week, intending to visit the main mass again, but had forgotten that they're closed on Mondays. Argh. Next time for sure! Linton -Original Message- From: Jim Wooddell via Meteorite-list Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 4:55 PM To: Carl Agee Cc: meteoritelist meteoritelist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Prices for SouthWest Dry Lake Finds??? Old Women Meteorite Hi Carl! I agree it is good where it's at. I really appreciated the opportunity to touch and see the Old Woman Meteorite. The girl in the office gave me the evil eye when I tried to roll it out of the BLM building! She thought I was joking around! ;) If there truly are additional pieces of the old gal, some one ought to go get it and re-unite them. I think UCLA should be jumping all over this with a vengeance. Funds could be raised to retrieve these. Russia would do it, I bet! I volunteer to be part of the ground crew and donate money to help make it happen by a qualified organization Won't believe it until I see pictures. Hiding something like this is nuts! I am mean really. Now back to watching epoxy cure! I need to call you next week. Jim On 5/21/2014 2:20 PM, Carl Agee wrote: > I think the Old Woman could be in worse hands. Last time I checked the > Smithsonian was our county's repository for national treasures -- > i.e., it belongs to all Americans. I certainly enjoyed seeing the full > slice on my last visit there -- also good to know that the main mass > is on display in California for tourists to appreciate. > > Carl Agee > * > Carl B. Agee > Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics > Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences > MSC03 2050 > University of New Mexico > Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 > > Tel: (505) 750-7172 > Fax: (505) 277-3577 > Email: a...@unm.edu > http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ > > > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Jim Wooddell via Meteorite-list > wrote: >> Hi Sonny, >> >> I thought the miners..or one of them passed? >> >> Let's go get it! Did they say how big the other pieces are? >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> On 5/21/2014 10:58 AM, wahlperry--- via Meteorite-list wrote: >>> Hey Adam and list >>> >>>> Not too many peoplehave the resources to fight the federal government. >>> Just talk to theminers that lost the Old Woman meteorite. >>> >>> With the Old Women Meteorite a second piece has been found. A third >>> piece >>> has also been found wedged under a large boulder half exposed. I have >>> tried >>> to get permission to remove the meteorite. I was told that the meteorite >>> would be confiscated if recovered and best to leave it alone. This would >>> be >>> a great case to challenge in court. >>> >>> Sonny >>> >>> __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] First look inside new meteorite from Crosbyton, TX fireball
Hi List, We just received this meteorite back from TCU. Here it is, a look inside this beautiful freshly fallen meteorite that Terry Scott and I recovered near Crosbyton, TX after the Feb. 18, 2016 fireball. The meteorite is pristine with a beautiful light grey matrix loaded with chondrules and metal flakes. Official name and classification still pending. The images are also on my Facebook page where they appear a little clearer. http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Crosbyton_Texas_Fireball_2016.html Sonny __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Hi Rob/All I know Doug has been working very hard for the new find / finds! Way to go Doug and everyone involved in the great recovery! Sonny -Original Message- From: Matson, Rob D. via Meteorite-list To: meteorite-list Sent: Thu, Apr 14, 2016 11:42 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day Hi Sonny/All, Note the label on the picture: Osceola #8. Doug is letting us in on a little secret he's been holding onto for the last 6 weeks or so -- that he knows the pictured find is #8 means that he ~also~ found #7, since previously only six finds were known. :-) Like Larry and Mike's team, Doug put in a lot of days out there, and would probably be there now if not for a serious injury suffered during the course of his efforts. I'd wish him a speedy recovery, but given the amount of time he's already been laid up, that ship has sailed. So instead I'll wish for Doug that each day is a little bit better than the last and that a full recovery isn't too far off. --Rob -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of wahlperry--- via Meteorite-list Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 11:25 AM To: valpar...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; mexicod...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day Hi Doug, Great find? How many hours for your meteorite find? Sonny -Original Message- From: Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list To: meteorite-list Sent: Wed, Apr 13, 2016 1:00 am Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Osceola Contributed by: Mexico Doug http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=04/13/2016 __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Hi Doug, Great find? How many hours for your meteorite find? Sonny -Original Message- From: Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list To: meteorite-list Sent: Wed, Apr 13, 2016 1:00 am Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Osceola Contributed by: Mexico Doug http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=04/13/2016 __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Texas meteorite hunt
Thanks for all of the nice replies. I wanted to also thank Mendy for getting an early start and driving out to the area and helping out. We were also joined by Richard Garcia who was only able to hunt one day. Richard drove all the way from California. He got to hunt one day (unfortunately the day it rained) and then had to leave early due to an unexpected emergency at Home. It was nice to see so many great meteorite hunters in one place and hear their wonderful stories. Sonny __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Texas Meteorite from the February 2016 fireball
Hi List, I would like to announce the discovery of a new meteorite from the February 2016 Texas fireball. This find was made possible by a collaboration of efforts from many individuals. Thanks to everyone involved. Special congratulations to Terry Scott. Sonny http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Sonny_Clary_meteorite_hunts_nevadameteorites.html __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Osceola/Lake City Florida
Hi Mike and Larry, Great report, congratulations on all the finds! Sonny -Original Message- From: Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list To: meteorite-list Sent: Sun, Feb 14, 2016 5:35 am Subject: [meteorite-list] Osceola/Lake City Florida Hello List,I'm happy to announce the recovery of the January 24 event over northern Florida. For the complete story, please go to http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/comets/osceola-meteorite-recovery/Enjoy!Sincerely,Larry Atkins IMCA # 1941Ebay alienrockfarm __Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.comMeteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttps://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Bob's new Indian Butte find
Hi List , For those of you not on Facebook here is a link to Bob Grueneberg's recent Indian Butte find. Sonny http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/New_Az_Metorite_Sonny_Clary_page_4.html __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Looking for Tucson Meteorite vendor list.
Hi All, Looking for the meteorite vendor list for Tucson. Thanks, Sonny __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] K9 unit to search for meteorites / Brix's pups/
Hi David and List, What a great story. Brix is now seven years old and still loves to train on finding meteorites. Any dog with a high prey drive can find meteorites. I was reading a story about Conservation Dogs http://www.conservationdogs.com when the idea came up on K9's finding meteorites. These dogs can be trained to find almost anything. I was able to contact one of the trainers to ask for help training. Most of the trainers would not tell me how they were training the Conservation dogs. One of the trainers finally said they used the Cadaver dog handbook for starting the dogs on scent training. One of Brix's favorite games is to have me dig three different holes in my training pit. I then place his toy in the hole and cover it up. While I am hiding the toy Brix is placed on the side of the house out of view of the sand pit. Within seconds he easily detects the ball. Anything is possible with these dogs. Brix is great at finding Chondrites. I would like to teach him how to detect iron meteorites. Brix has 3 beautiful Pure Bred German Shepherd puppies available for adoption. They are 11 weeks old and are AKC UKC registered. If anyone is interested I can put you in contact with the owner of the Female who has the pups. These dogs have potential to be excellent meteorite K9's as well as being full protection dogs and or service dogs. Sonny nevadameteorites.com -Original Message- From: David Allepuz via Meteorite-list To: meteorite-list Sent: Sat, Dec 12, 2015 8:47 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] K9 unit to search for meteorites Hello, Now it's public. A K9 police unit has been specifically trained to search for meteorites as part of an experiment to find the limits of canine detection possibilities. http://www.doogweb.es/2015/12/09/perros-detectores-de-meteoritos/ We have been part of these project and are amazed with the results. Proof test have been conducted with different meteorites and climatic conditions: Amazing, Kaly marks also meteorites he was not trained for. Meteorites that we bring as our particular test. A first field attemp in Villalbeto de la Peña was conducted without result (cerfifying there is no one more? as we have visited the area dozens of times without success) Now we only need a new fall. Sorry, Bingol would not work, Kaly is trained to search Chondrites. Great notice for Brix and Hopper: Kaly is a female! David Allepuz www.meteorits.cat www.cazameteoritos.es www.meteorite.land IMCA #1496 --- Aquest correu electrònic s'ha verificat mitjançant l'Avast antivirus. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad: Outstanding 100 % fully crusted Creston complete individual
Hi List, I just returned from hunting for the Creston meteorite. Our team spent 5 days (3 guys) hunting on the first trip and 3 days ( 4 guys) on the second trip . There was a total of 230 man hours spent in the field hunting. This was a very tough hunt. Every piece of land was private property and we spent an extensive amount of time securing permission to hunt these fields. On the first trip we recovered two meteorites; 102 and 82 gram pieces. Both of these pieces are spoken for. Another stone was acquired on our second trip. It weighs 72.6 grams and is a beautiful 100% fully crusted individual. It has flow lines down both sides and a roll over lip. It is shaped like an axe head with fusion crusted chondrules peeking out from under the crust. This is truly a spectacular piece and is the only complete specimen for sale from this fall to date. To my knowledge there has been a total of 6 stones recovered from this fall with a TKW of 852.3 grams. This total includes the three stones mentioned above. This was a very tough hunt and there were many hunters out in the fields over the past week. Again as far as I know there was only 6 stones recovered. I hope to post some pictures from the hunt over the next few days. If you are interested in the complete individual you can see it on mine or Terry Scott's Facebook page or check back on my website www.nevadameteorites.com in a couple of days. I am going to take more photos of it tomorrow and then post them on my website along with some trip pictures of the team. I want to give a special congratulations to Terry Scott for finding these beautiful stones. His first find was made less than 24 hours after the initial Creston meteorite was found. This hunt was successful from the combined efforts of all of those involved. If you are interested in this stone contact off list for pricing. Sonny Clary __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Time for change - here in US (was, Re: something about Las Vegas)
researchers outside of theUSA. Again, that was stated in my article, as well.Your defense of USgeochemists is commendable, but unnecessary in this instance. I don't need toask their position on this funding matter. It's well documented. But maybe weshould also ask the opinion of other researchers, maybe even outside of theMetSoc. Maybe even outside of the USA. Ask them what they think about us notrecording or documenting (let alone not classifying) newly found meteorites. Researchers like those that are studying the rate of influx and number offalls per unit area. And other researchers such as those that are interested inknowing exactly how many small meteoroids are flying around in the vicinity ofour astronauts. We should ask all of them. We should ask all thestakeholders. Even US taxpayers, who are stakeholders as well, because I'm surethey are assuming their tax dollars are being spent wisely on protecting themfrom meteoroids hitting them. I'm sure all of these various people arecounting on us to do our job in this regard, and not to literally ignore foundmeteorites. I've been waiting for one of the other old-timers to make thisrealization and make a comment, but I'm getting more impatient as I get older.So, I'll say it now. It wasn't that long ago that we, as USmeteorite-hunters, were thanking our lucky stars that we didn't have to dealwith all of the stifling regulations that our comrades in Australia and Canadawere having to put-up with. But they made some crucial adjustments in theirculture and now those countries are experiencing a golden age inmeteorite-recovery. It's amazing how fast things have turned 180 degrees. Bob V. P.S. - please allow me to update this table of recoverydata:Stewart Valley - over 700 recorded finds, only 22 in the MBD, 6different classifications, only the H6 and L6 are paired. Where's thebeef? Tungston Mountain - over 700 recorded finds, only 22 in the MBD, 10are unpaired, the eight H4s are probably paired. Still no justification for acomplaint. Lucerne Valley - over120 meteorites, CK are the majority of the 66classifieds, but there were 5 unique classes in the first 7 finds, 9 in 12, 10in 15. Coyote Dry lake - over 350 recorded finds, only 82 are in MBD, so far56 of these are classified. >8 unique classes. No one has done a pairingstudy.Stump Springs 130 field-numbered finds, only 84 provisional numbers,only 1 classified find. No strewn-field data is published.Yelland Dry lake Hundreds of fragments, and only one classification. Worlds only one meteoritedry lake! Was there any strewn-field data recorded?There still is no estimateof how many original masses formed all of these clusters of fragments, or theirlocations. This is one big fuster cluck. On Tue, 9/15/15, wahlperry---via Meteorite-list wrote: Subject: Re:[meteorite-list] Local to Las Vegas expert needed to rewiew afind. To:raremeteori...@centurylink.net, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date:Tuesday, September 15, 2015, 1:53 PM Hi Bob, Adam and List, >This is aconcern that others have shared with me, and has prompted me to >write on thissubject in three separate articles, which essentially said, >"Hey, here aresome US chondrites that need to be classified." >Still haven't received anyoffers deleted Stewart Valley TBR plus finds finds, TungstonMountain TBR meteorites/ fragments Lucerne Valley 124 meteorites CoyoteDry lake 341 meteorites Stump Springs 130 plus meteorites Yelland Dry lake Hundreds of fragments more deletions __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Local to Las Vegas expert needed to rewiew a find.
Hi Carl, What ever happened with your Cat Mountain meteorite? Here Kitty Kitty! Sonny -Original Message- From: Carl Esparza via Meteorite-list To: bigjohnshea ; Larry Atkins ; Robert Verish Cc: Robert Verish via Meteorite-list Sent: Tue, Sep 15, 2015 12:23 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Local to Las Vegas expert needed to rewiew a find. List, A word of warning; if you are in the Vegas area DO NOT let it leave yourhands or chances are you will never see it again anyway . Justsayin!Carl--Love & Life Robert Verish via Meteorite-list wrote: > No Larry, > There actually is aproblem. > John's "opinion" is a common misconception that I even held until Ipersonally learned of this recent trend. > This is a concern that others haveshared with me, and has prompted me to write on this subject in three >separate articles, which essentially said, "Hey, here are some US chondritesthat need to be classified." > Still haven't received any offers. > > Myrequest still stands. > I would like to hear from people with recent experiencein this area that can point me in the direction of > a cheap classifier thatstill accepts small, ordinary chondrites. > I suspect when I find one it willbe outside the US. > > Bob V.> >> On Tue, 9/15/15, Larry Atkins viaMeteorite-list wrote:> > Subject: Re:[meteorite-list] Local to Las Vegas expert needed to rewiew a find.> To:bigjohns...@mail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Cc:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2015, 5:28AM> > Hi John, List,> > You may be right about not having a problemgetting a US chondrite classified, however, > if it was found in the Mojavedesert it is likely to get a number instead of a name.> Unfortunately, Nom Comwill likely lump it in with the nearest DCA, > > I'm wondering how muchlonger it will be before the entire Mojave desert is one big> DCA like NWA?> > > > Sincerely,> Larry Atkins> > IMCA # 1941> Ebay alienrockfarm> > > > -Original> Message-> From:Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list > To:mstreman53 > Cc: Meteorite Mailing List> Sent: Tue, Sep 15, 2015 5:07 am> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Local to Las Vegas expert needed to rewiew afind.> > > I'd love to see a photo also, but I live in Philadelphia so Iwon't be> seeingthis in person. :-) That aside,I'm assuming from> your postthat this is a"chondrite" native to the> USA, and not just another NWA. I haveabout 25> NWA'sundergoing classification now, and I have more> I'd like toget classified but itis indeed hard to find> a lab that will work on NWAs thatlook like obvious OCs. I> think that is a mistake on their part, because thereare so> many uniquethings to be found in meteorites. > In my opinion, manylabs would thinkdifferently about a> "native" US chondrite, than an NWAchondrite. I> do notthink you will have trouble finding a home for it if> it is a USA find. Cheers,John > > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 at 5:47PMFrom: "MEM viaMeteorite-list"> To: "Meteorite> MailingList"Subject: [meteorite-list]> Local toLasVegas expert needed to rewiew a find.I am in> contact with a Las Vegasresidentwho has, by all appearances> fair-sized, fresh chondrite. If you arewillingand able to> inspect in person and get her stone into the system,> pleasesend me your contact information for forwarding. Pics> onrequest.Regards,Elton> __> >Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and theArchives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com> Meteorite-list mailinglist> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list__Visitour Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives athttp://www.meteorite-list-archives.comMeteorite-list mailinglistMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttps://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Local to Las Vegas expert needed to rewiew afind.
Hi Bob, Adam and List, >This is a concern that others have shared with me, and has prompted me to >write on this subject in three >separate articles, which essentially said, >"Hey, here are some US chondrites that need to be classified." >Still haven't >received any offers Do you think that the scientists that are classifying these stones have been overwhelmed by the high number of stones coming from the same recovery area? Even when meteorites are found within a known area the finders often feel that they are different and are eager to have them classified. Many of the stones are obviously paired and it may not make financial sense for the scientists to spend time and resources on each individual stone. I do realize that their have been stones found that are uniquely different than others in the same dense collection area. I believe those should be classified without a doubt. What I am trying to decide at what point does classifying each tiny fragment become excessive? Maybe we should ask the Scientists that do the classifications what their opinion is. Stewart Valley 120 plus finds finds, Tungston Mountain 600 meteorites/ fragments Lucerne Valley 124 meteorites Yelland Dry lake Hundreds of fragments Coyote Dry lake 341 meteorites Stump Springs 130 plus meteorites >I gave up on a classification that was submitted in 2005. It was a fresh >type >3 oriented chondrite that my wife, Zann found. It was the very first >meteorite she ever recovered and it was a cold find. It would have been >serial number one but I think the unsavory practice of embargoing dry lake >bed finds interfered with the classification data being published in the >Bulletin. >I no longer submit U.S. finds for classification. I prefer to >keep >personally found meteorites whole and intact. Why cut a personal find >when >the odds of it being published are slim, even with the data submitted by >a >Nom Com recognized scientist? Mine stay in a box so that I can enjoy the >memories of the hunt at a later date. >Adam Hi Adam, I don't know your situation on the issue of embargoing dry lake beds or collection areas. Regarding Zann's find were there any previous finds made at that lake bed? If so, I feel the original finder should get the credit and the first number. The subsequent finds should be issued numbers in order of their find date. The only case that a find should get a new number is if it was a new area with no previous meteorite finds. Many of the lake beds have been hunted for years with great success. There were hundreds of field hours put in, recording of data, etc. I had a similar issue when a meteorite was found in an area that I had been working. I had hundreds of hours involved, stones classified, provisional numbers, etc. Another stone was found by a hunter and he attempted to have his find assigned #1. Both the finder and the scientist doing his classification knew my history with this area and the many finds made. They still attempted to get the number changed. When they were unsuccessful they tried to change the name of that find. It was clearly paired with finds from the area. It is amazing that someone would attempt this. Sonny -Original Message- From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list To: meteorite-list Sent: Tue, Sep 15, 2015 9:42 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Local to Las Vegas expert needed to rewiew afind. I gave up on a classification that was submitted in 2005. It was a fresh type3 oriented chondrite that my wife, Zann found. It was the very firstmeteorite she ever recovered and it was a cold find. It would have beenserial number one but I think the unsavory practice of embargoing dry lakebed finds interfered with the classification data being published in theBulletin.I no longer submit U.S. finds for classification. I prefer tokeep personally found meteorites whole and intact. Why cut a personal findwhen the odds of it being published are slim, even with the data submitted bya Nom Com recognized scientist? Mine stay in a box so that I can enjoy thememories of the hunt at a later date.Adam- Original Message- From: "Robert Verish via Meteorite-list"To: ;; "Larry Atkins" Cc:Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 9:15AMSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Local to Las Vegas expert needed to rewiewafind.No Larry,There actually is a problem.John's "opinion" is acommon misconception that I even held until I personally learned of thisrecent trend.This is a concern that others have shared with me, and hasprompted me to write on this subject in threeseparate articles, whichessentially said, "Hey, here are some US chondrites that need to beclassified."Still haven't received any offers.My request still stands.Iwould like to hear from people with recent experience in this area that canpoint me in the direction ofa cheap classifier that still accepts small,ordinary chondrites.I suspect when I find one it will be outside
Re: [meteorite-list] September Issue of Meteorite Times now up
Hi Paul and Jim, Thanks for another great issue of Meteorite Times. Sonny -Original Message- From: Paul Harris via Meteorite-list To: Meteorite Mailing List Sent: Sun, Sep 6, 2015 6:25 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] September Issue of Meteorite Times now up Hello Everyone,The September issue of Meteorite Times is now up.Our IMCAInsights article this month is by Ellen Crapster-Pregont, a PhD candidate atColumbia University in the Department of Earth and Environmental Sciences. Shereceived the 2015 Brian Mason Travel Award supported by the InternationalMeteorite Collectors Association for the 78th Annual Meteoritical SocietyMeeting.Browser view -> http://www.meteorite-times.com/2015/09/Magazineview ->http://issuu.com/meteorite-times/docs/meteorite-times_2015_9Enjoy!PaulandJimhttp://www.meteorite-times.com/__Visitour Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives athttp://www.meteorite-list-archives.comMeteorite-list mailinglistMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttps://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim 2015 article and photos
WOW what great pictures.It looks like a lot of fun and good eating! Sonny -Original Message- From: John Lutzon via Meteorite-list To: Martin Goff Cc: meteorite-list Sent: Wed, Sep 2, 2015 3:20 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim 2015 article and photos Martin,Super, super--thanks.John- Original Message -From: "Martin Goff via Meteorite-list"To:Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 4:39PMSubject: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim 2015 article and photosHiall,Just uploaded write up and photos from the Ensisheim show 2015 to mywebsite.Please take a look and hopefully it will evoke some good memoriesorif you have not yet been entice you to come along nextyear(http://msg-meteorites.co.uk/meteorite-adventures/the-ensisheim-meteorite-show-2015/)Enjoy:-)CheersMartin-- Martin Goffwww.msg-meteorites.co.ukIMCA#3387__Visit our Facebook pagehttps://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives athttp://www.meteorite-list-archives.comMeteorite-list mailinglistMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttps://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list__Visitour Facebook page https:/ /www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives athttp://www.meteorite-list-archives.comMeteorite-list mailinglistMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttps://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Retractable meteorite cane found while hunting formeteorites.
Hi Art and List, That is so true. I really enjoy spending my time exploring the deserts. I can't wait to see what the forecasted El Nino rains will uncover in the desert Southwest. I found some sea shells out in the middle of the sand dunes (of all places). I assume they were transported there. Or maybe even traded by the Native Americans? Speaking of Native Americans,I had the privilege to be invited to a ceremonial dance in Arizona on a large Reservation. It was great to experience their culture and to witness their dances. What an awesome experience. I was even given a handmade basket which is used in their traditional dances by one of the tribal members. The whole experience was surreal and I will cherish the memories forever. Sonny >Greg, Sonny, List >I think the next best thing to the feeling that you'rewalking in a remote area >where no one has been, is that you're walking in aremote area where a compadre >has >been -Original Message- From: Art Jones To: Greg Hupe ; wahlperry ; meteorite-list Sent: Fri, Aug 14, 2015 10:15 am Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Retractable meteorite cane found while hunting formeteorites. Greg, Sonny, List;I think the next best thing to the feeling that you'rewalking in a remote area where no one has been, is that you're walking in aremote area where a compadre has been!-Art-OriginalMessage-From: Meteorite-list[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Greg Hupe viaMeteorite-listSent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:01 AMTo: wahlpe...@aol.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Retractablemeteorite cane found while hunting formeteorites.That's cool, Sonny.InFebruary I found a SOG knife on a dry lake bed in Nevada while 'finding'meteorites and mentioned I found "a knife". A friend asked if it was a, "GraySOG knife found on Dry Lake ...". Sure enough it was his that he lost twoyears prior and that it was a special gift from his son. I was happy to returnit back to him after it had a short vaca in Florida. Needless to say Jim W.was absolutely thrilled to have it back! :)BestRegards,GregGreg Hu peThe hupecollectiongmh...@centurylink.netwww.naturesvault.net (Online Catalog &Reference Site) www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) NaturesVault(Facebook, Pinterest & eBay)http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVaulthttp://pinterest.com/NaturesVaultIMCA3163Click here for my current eBayauctions:http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault-OriginalMessage-From: wahlperry--- via Meteorite-listSent: Friday, August 14,2015 11:34 AMTo: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSubject:[meteorite-list] Retractable meteorite cane found while huntingformeteorites.Hi All,I have been out exploring areas in Nevada and Utahfor meteorites and photo opportunities. It is amazing how many unique treasuresyou are able to find. Not to mentionthe wildlife and weather events. I hopeto post a few pictures later. I did find a retractable meteorite cane on a lakebed. Not the treasure I was hoping for! It looks like it has been lying on thelake bed surface for a year or two bu t still in great shape. Email off list ifyou think this is yours and want itback.Sonny__Visit ourFacebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives athttp://www.meteorite-list-archives.comMeteorite-list mailinglistMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttps://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list__Visit our Facebook pagehttps://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives athttp://www.meteorite-list-archives.comMeteorite-list mailinglistMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttps://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Retractable meteorite cane found while hunting for meteorites.
Hi All, I have been out exploring areas in Nevada and Utah for meteorites and photo opportunities. It is amazing how many unique treasures you are able to find. Not to mention the wildlife and weather events. I hope to post a few pictures later. I did find a retractable meteorite cane on a lake bed. Not the treasure I was hoping for! It looks like it has been lying on the lake bed surface for a year or two but still in great shape. Email off list if you think this is yours and want it back. Sonny __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 "Thinnest Slices Ever Produced" - AD
Hey Greg, Great web site. It is always nice to look at all the meteorite pictures! Sonny -Original Message- From: Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list To: meteorite-list Sent: Wed, Aug 12, 2015 12:34 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 "Thinnest Slices Ever Produced" - AD Dear List Members,I am happy to announce that I am now offering:'TheThinnest Slices of NWA 5000 ever produced - Exclusively at Nature'sVault'Never before have slices been cut and polished to just 1mm, thismeans the 'Surface-to-Weight' ratio is tremendous and offers the maximumviewing surface! Many have asked, "What lunar meteorite could possibly bebetter than NWA 5000?"... Simple, ultra-thin polished slices of NWA 5000! Ihave absorbed the cutting/polishing losses and expenses to present the verybest this lunaite has to offer.To see much of what I have available,please visit my NWA 5000 page exclusively on Nature's Vault:http://www.naturesvault.net/meteorites/nwa5000.htmlThank you for looking,and if you are interested in any of the listed specimens, please click the'Buy' button quickly as I will be offering these on a First-come, First-servedbasis.Best Regards,GregPaid Ad #10 of 52GregHupeThe Hupe collectiongmh...@centurylink.netwww.naturesvault.net (OnlineCatalog & Reference Site)www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary MeteoriteSite)NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest &eBay)http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVaulthttp://pinterest.com/NaturesVaultIMCA3163Click here for my current eBayauctions:http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault__Visitour Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives athttp://www.meteorite-list-archives.comMeteorite-list mailinglistMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttps://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15
Hi Adam and List, Check out this rock art that we found while hiking in a remote area. The image seems to resemble the one in your picture. I wonder if they could be related. Sonny http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Nevada_art.html -Original Message- From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list To: meteorite-list Sent: Tue, Feb 17, 2015 5:14 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15 Interesting about the focus being put onto Native American cultures and the importance they place on meteorites. I am fortunate that my wife, who is 50% Cherokee Native American, shares similar interests to this day. She has never once complained about my fascination and spending on artifacts, meteorites and other collectables. She recently joked about collecting land. We will need it for the rock garden she has put together while spending a great deal of time with the new and improved Team LunarRock in the field.Below is an image of my wife admiring a famous and controversial 800 pound artifact that we purchased from the original finders and are storing among other collectables. Some of you may recognize this artifact from a "documentary" show dedicated a complete episode to the piece. I do not agree with the show host's interpretations, felt the urge to rescue it from his laboratory (studio) and purchased out from underneath them. Many of these shows have no respect for such things and are more concerned with shamelessly promoting themselves. I am onto a meteorite that weighs several times the amount of this artifact, is located on private property which is for sale and surrounded by lithic scatter meaning early man was drawn to it. It will definitely be a pallet buster like this piece!Link to an image of my wonderful wife and a recent acquisition:http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/ZannWithBullArtifact.jpgHapp y Hunting,Adam Original Message - From: "Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list" To: "Meteorite Central" Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 3:02 PMSubject: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15> Hello Listers>> Enjoy>> Shawn Alan> IMCA 1633> ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html> Website http://meteoritefalls.com>>> What's Happening; 2-18-15>> Cottonwood Meteorite Added to Exhibit>> March 1-Aug. 31>> The Verde Valley Archaeology Center located at 385 S. Main Street in> Camp Verde will add the Cottonwood Meteorite to an exhibit running from> March 1 to Aug. 31. The loan of these meteorites from the Arizona State> University Center for Meteorite Studies was arranged with the> cooperation of Dr. Lawrence Garvie, Research Professor at the ASU School> of Earth & Space Exploration. The Center will be hosting Dr. Garvie for> a free talk on meteorites on March 3, at 7 p.m., in the Phillip England> Center for the Performing Arts, 210 Camp Lincoln Road in Camp Verde. The> Center will also give monthly talks on the importance and uses of> meteorites among ancient Native American cultures during the span of the> exhibit. Visit verdevalleyarchaeology.org or call (928) 567-0066 for> more information.>> Source:> http://cvbugle.com/main.asp?SectionID=74&SubSectionID=114&ArticleID=45361> __>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com> Meteorite-list mailing list> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list> __Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.comMeteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttps://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman /listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Hi Twink and List, What a nice find! You do not see to many Franconia meteorites that size any more. I think it might be tough for anyone to find that large of a meteorite in the Franconia strewn field today. Sonny -Original Message- From: Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list To: meteorite-list Sent: Mon, Jan 19, 2015 11:00 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: FranconiaContributed by: Twink Monradhttp://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=01/20/2015_ _Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.comMeteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttps://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman /listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Email for Rodrigo Martinez
Hi Looking to contact Rodrigo Martinez, If anyone has his email could you email me off list. Thanks, Sonny __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] November Issue of Meteorite Times Now Up
Hey Paul and Jim, Thanks for another great issue of Meteorite Times! Sonny -Original Message- From: Paul Harris via Meteorite-list To: meteorite-list Sent: Sat, Nov 15, 2014 10:05 am Subject: [meteorite-list] November Issue of Meteorite Times Now Up Hello Everyone,The November issue of Meteorite Times is now up. If anyone would like to be featured as one of our Meteorite People or would like to freshen up their old interview please reply off list.As always, a huge Thank You to all of our contributors.http://www.meteorite-times.com/Enjoy!Paul and Jim__Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.comMeteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttps://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman /listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] the stone of the dream better pics
Hey Habibi, Could you tell us the story how they were found and how far from the strewnfield. What great finds! Sonny -Original Message- From: habibi abdelaziz via Meteorite-list To: meteorite list Sent: Sun, Oct 12, 2014 2:11 am Subject: [meteorite-list] the stone of the dream better pics good morning;i just got the time to get a look at my stones and to take better pics,this is realy the kind of stones that wake me up early to open my office and to just look at them. do i addict to meteorite; yes i m a big addict to meteorite and happy to be;https://www.flickr.com/photos/azizhabibi/azizh __Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.comMeteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttps://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman /listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Arizona fireball hunt
Hi List, I just returned from a meteorite hunt in Arizona. I had a great time exploring some new areas in Arizona that I have never had a chance to visit before. I met several people who witnessed the recent fireball. One described the sound overhead as a truck backfiring. Another said he heard the explosion and felt the ground shake. Although I did not find any meteorites on this trip I still had a wonderful time taking photographs of the area. I always say even if you don't find a meteorite that the people you meet and the adventures along the way are as rewarding as finding a meteorite. Here is a link to some pictures that I took at Wupatki National Park of some ruins in the area. I was also able to visit 5 newly discovered ruins but was not able to photograph them. This is a beautiful area of the Southwest and I felt privileged to spend time there. Sonny http://sonnyclaryphotography.smugmug.com/Photos/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Prices for SouthWest Dry Lake Finds??? Old Women Meteorite
Hey Adam and list Not too many peoplehave the resources to fight the federal government. Just talk to theminers that lost the Old Woman meteorite. With the Old Women Meteorite a second piece has been found. A third piece has also been found wedged under a large boulder half exposed. I have tried to get permission to remove the meteorite. I was told that the meteorite would be confiscated if recovered and best to leave it alone. This would be a great case to challenge in court. Sonny -Original Message- From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list To: meteorite-list Sent: Wed, May 21, 2014 10:06 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Prices for SouthWest Dry Lake Finds??? Sonny, That is great news. I am not saying that every experience with the BLM has been a negative one for me. I spent hours on the phone with three different agents from the Barstow and Needles offices and got variable answers. I was even told it was illegal to bring devices into an area that also contains heritage items or artifacts. This included a magnet on a stick. I did manage to get a permit to enter Ivanpah after one of my friends was ticketed there.The bottom line is that I do not want to see anybody hassled for selling meteorites found on public land. The only consistent answer I ever got was that meteorites found on public land are not to be used for commercial purposes.Sell at your own risk. For me, the thrill is finding them,Adam- Original Message - From: To: ; Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:49 AMSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Prices for SouthWest Dry Lake Finds???Hey Adam, Jim and List,Meteorites are lying around like Easter Eggs you just need to go outand do a little hunting. I was able to recover 2.5 pounds over the lastmonth in a new area. Last year while I was hunting the Indian Buttemeteorite I stopped and talked with two BLM Rangers. We talked aboutmeteorite hunting. The two rangers had no problem with me hunting formeteorites and wished me good luck. I have also talked with the LasVegas BLM regarding meteorite hunting and have had no problem. I didcontact the State of Arizona about hunting on State Land and theyinformed me that meteorite hunting on state land is not allowed. So farall of my experiences with the BLM and meteorite hunting has beenpositive. I can hopefully find some more Easter Eggs this weekend! : )Sonny-Original Message- From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-listTo: meteorite-list Sent: Wed, May 21, 2014 9:08 amSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Prices for SouthWest Dry Lake Finds???The BLM adopted the UNESCO rules designed to protect culturalproperties and turned them into laws. These rules have been twistedinto law by government servants overstepping their authority with nodebate or intelligent input whatsoever. I talked at great length over10 years ago with the late Richard Norton which sounded the alarm bellsto anybody who would listen. The BLM strengthened their position withthe 10 pound limit and commercial permits which will never be issuedbased on television shows, falsely perceiving that meteorites are lyingaround like Easter Eggs and are worth a fortune.Not too many peoplehave the resources to fight the federal government. Just talk to theminers that lost the Old Woman meteorite. Our group, consisting ofseven people, were warned by BLM agents from the Needles Californiaoffice that meteorites are not to be resold and that they monitor eBayand other outlets. Four prominent meteorite collector/dealers and ascientist were on this trip. I was personally threatened, as wereother team members, by them and will leave it at that. Others on thislist have been warned as well. I will leave it up to other hunters tostep forward with their unsavory experiences with the BLM if they feelso inclined.It is best to search on private property with writtenpermission if want to resell your finds. There has been a lot ofpress about artifact hunters having their entire collectionsconfiscated if they did not have provenance indicating their finds weremade on private land. Even then, you are not allowed to dig on privateproperty for them. They have to be surface finds. Remember, the "laws"written for artifacts and fossils now apply to meteorites even thoughmeteorites were never mentioned in the UNESCO guidelines which wereadopted into law.Jim, I am surprised that with all of the hunting youhave engaged in over the years that you have not been personallyinvolved with the BLM in the field. Sometimes you run into areasonable agent, but more than likely, you will run into one lookingexert their authority.Adam- Original Message - From: "JimWooddell via Meteorite-list" To:com>Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 5:06AMSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Prices for SouthWest Dry Lake Finds???>Hi Adam and all,>> Just for clarification on so called BLM Rules.>> TheBLM put out a paper a while back the stirred up a rucku
Re: [meteorite-list] Prices for SouthWest Dry Lake Finds???
Hey Adam, Jim and List, Meteorites are lying around like Easter Eggs you just need to go out and do a little hunting. I was able to recover 2.5 pounds over the last month in a new area. Last year while I was hunting the Indian Butte meteorite I stopped and talked with two BLM Rangers. We talked about meteorite hunting. The two rangers had no problem with me hunting for meteorites and wished me good luck. I have also talked with the Las Vegas BLM regarding meteorite hunting and have had no problem. I did contact the State of Arizona about hunting on State Land and they informed me that meteorite hunting on state land is not allowed. So far all of my experiences with the BLM and meteorite hunting has been positive. I can hopefully find some more Easter Eggs this weekend! : ) Sonny -Original Message- From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list To: meteorite-list Sent: Wed, May 21, 2014 9:08 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Prices for SouthWest Dry Lake Finds??? The BLM adopted the UNESCO rules designed to protect cultural properties and turned them into laws. These rules have been twisted into law by government servants overstepping their authority with no debate or intelligent input whatsoever. I talked at great length over 10 years ago with the late Richard Norton which sounded the alarm bells to anybody who would listen. The BLM strengthened their position with the 10 pound limit and commercial permits which will never be issued based on television shows, falsely perceiving that meteorites are lying around like Easter Eggs and are worth a fortune.Not too many people have the resources to fight the federal government. Just talk to the miners that lost the Old Woman meteorite. Our group, consisting of seven people, were warned by BLM agents from the Needles California office that meteorites are not to be resold and that they monitor eBay and other outlets. Four prominent meteorite collector/dealers and a scientist were on this trip. I was personally threatened, as were other team members, by them and will leave it at that. Others on this list have been warned as well. I will leave it up to other hunters to step forward with their unsavory experiences with the BLM if they feel so inclined.It is best to search on private property with written permission if want to resell your finds. There has been a lot of press about artifact hunters having their entire collections confiscated if they did not have provenance indicating their finds were made on private land. Even then, you are not allowed to dig on private property for them. They have to be surface finds. Remember, the "laws" written for artifacts and fossils now apply to meteorites even though meteorites were never mentioned in the UNESCO guidelines which were adopted into law.Jim, I am surprised that with all of the hunting you have engaged in over the years that you have not been personally involved with the BLM in the field. Sometimes you run into a reasonable agent, but more than likely, you will run into one looking exert their authority.Adam- Original Message - From: "Jim Wooddell via Meteorite-list" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 5:06 AMSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Prices for SouthWest Dry Lake Finds???> Hi Adam and all,>> Just for clarification on so called BLM Rules.>> The BLM put out a paper a while back the stirred up a ruckus. The paper > was a GUIDELINE for area supervisors> to implement or not. To be clear, they are not rules. And, the BLM has > failed to issues claimed permits for> commercial ventures when ask.>> If you can show me where these guidelines have become rules and have > actually been implemented, I'd like to see it.>> Jim On 5/20/2014 4:25 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list wrote:>> Hi Jim and All, Unless they predate 1972, meteorites found on public land cannot be used >> for commercial purposes according to the BLM interpretations rendering >> them without commercial value. This is even before the new "laws" >> limited meteorite recoveries to 10 pounds a year or less without a >> commercial permit. The interesting thing is not a single commercial >> permit has ever been issued despite being applied for. Sorry for the bad news, That is why it so important to treat private land owners with the utmost >> respect in order to gain access to unrestricted search areas. Adam>> -- > Jim Wooddell> jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net> http://pages.suddenlink.net/chondrule/>> __>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com> Meteorite-list mailing list> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list> __Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.comMeteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://three.pairlist.net/mailman/ list