Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
I agree with Keith. This cube is a wonderful specimen that shows better than ordinary (not that meteorites are ordinary) slices. The real shame in meteorite specimen processing over cutting. This cube could have been cut into several slices but some one decided to preserve it as a cube. John At 09:58 PM 2/3/2008, Arizona Keith wrote: Hello List I can't understand why you think this is a horrible end for a meteorite. You can see the 3 dimensional Widmanstatten perfect and the shape of the troilite inclusions, better than in any 2D slice. No materiel was wasted in getting the cube shape, other than normal saw and grind waste, It was a large long brick, after removing several slices it's a cube. I think the Karl's did a great job. I'll post more later this week. Thanks for your time Keith - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day ARGH what horrible end for a meteorite.. Matteo - Original Message - Da : Arizona Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Data : Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:24:25 -0700 Hello List I like to post a Tucson Show Meteorite photo of the Day Joachim and Moritz Karl 5.3 kg Cape York Cube, IIIAB om, Greenland, Found 1818. http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucsonshow2008cc199thecube.jpg On display in Mike Farmer room, at the Inns suites. Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did seeing it. Keith Chandler AZ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
Hi Dave, It is unfortunate that this business has a built-in financial incentive to cut meteorites into very small pieces for distribution (because there is a larger market for smaller pieces at a higher per-gram price many meteorites are essentially destroyed...this is a plain fact I wouldn't second that regarding the iron meteorites. Cutting, preparing, stabilizing iron slices is very cost-intensive. One needs machines, consumables, the cut loss is high and a proper cut, grinding, polishing, etching etc is an extremely time-consuming process. So that I would suppose that most iron preparators would rather prefer to sell larger rough specimens and then at a lower price per gram, than smaller slices. Btw with Cape York I feel it more inappropriate to see two of the masses rotting for decades in the Danish rain in the court of the museum in Copenhagen. http://kuerzer.de/iwascapeyork (Photo M.Graul) Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Dave Gheesling Gesendet: Montag, 4. Februar 2008 06:54 An: 'Arizona Keith' Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Hi, Keith, I'd figured there was enough banter amongst the group already, but here is a last ditch effort to provoke some thinking. We haven't met yet, but I'm a collector in Atlanta. While I don't necessarily think it was a horrible end for this particular meteorite, the point, generally speaking, is a quite good one to consider (not taking and distributing photographs, which I'm sure everyone very much appreciates). It is unfortunate that this business has a built-in financial incentive to cut meteorites into very small pieces for distribution (because there is a larger market for smaller pieces at a higher per-gram price many meteorites are essentially destroyed...this is a plain fact). I'm not a tree hugger by any stretch, and in the case of this particular meteorite specimen the principles may not fully apply. But the larger point might be that it is, in fact, truly stupid to call someone else stupid for opening up the dialogue. Isn't respectful collaboration and exchange the point of a list such as this, anyway? Best to all, Dave __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
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Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
Obviously true, Christian. And also true in John's note that cubes are better than slices in some cases due to less kerf waste. I'd imagine most (if not everyone) who have commented on the 3D aesthetic values also love spheres for similar reasons. No need to expand on that... Thanks for all of the insight, and to you, Keith, for getting all of this rolling with your terrific pictures! I started this little banter because of a personal attack (one is not stupid for having a subjective opinion), as this is not the place for them. Stupid is as stupid does. - Forrest Gump See you in Tucson... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Anger Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:52 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Isn't each rectangular slice also a geometric figure ? e.g. a square ? So this is a cube. It displays wonderful the 3-dimensional arrangement of the crystals, as this cube is cut 45° to the axis of the crystals. Wonderful 3D-Display! Christian I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc website: www.austromet.com Ing. Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:meteorite-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JKGwilliam Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:23 PM To: Arizona Keith; M come Meteorite Meteorites; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day I agree with Keith. This cube is a wonderful specimen that shows better than ordinary (not that meteorites are ordinary) slices. The real shame in meteorite specimen processing over cutting. This cube could have been cut into several slices but some one decided to preserve it as a cube. John At 09:58 PM 2/3/2008, Arizona Keith wrote: Hello List I can't understand why you think this is a horrible end for a meteorite. You can see the 3 dimensional Widmanstatten perfect and the shape of the troilite inclusions, better than in any 2D slice. No materiel was wasted in getting the cube shape, other than normal saw and grind waste, It was a large long brick, after removing several slices it's a cube. I think the Karl's did a great job. I'll post more later this week. Thanks for your time Keith - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day ARGH what horrible end for a meteorite.. Matteo - Original Message - Da : Arizona Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Data : Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:24:25 -0700 Hello List I like to post a Tucson Show Meteorite photo of the Day Joachim and Moritz Karl 5.3 kg Cape York Cube, IIIAB om, Greenland, Found 1818. http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucsonshow2008cc199thecube.jpg On display in Mike Farmer room, at the Inns suites. Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did seeing it. Keith Chandler AZ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
Your points are right on the money, Martin. I very much agree, and it surprising to see that there is little-to-no market appreciation in terms of perceived economic value for this work with irons, particularly slices. I'll assume that perhaps you would second my point below re: stones, and we can leave it at that (in fact, a little marketing machine is being ramped up as we type for a beautiful stone which no doubt will be rolled out to slaughter in short order, and it will be pathetic to watch). The only part of my original note that started volleying back and forth was the point about cutting meteorites and waste. My point had more to do with the larger picture outlined in the list Policies: be courteous and professional, no personal attacks, identify ADs properly and limit them to once per week so as to avoid spamming the group, etc. All good points. All frequently ignored. Best regards, Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Altmann Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 7:47 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Hi Dave, It is unfortunate that this business has a built-in financial incentive to cut meteorites into very small pieces for distribution (because there is a larger market for smaller pieces at a higher per-gram price many meteorites are essentially destroyed...this is a plain fact I wouldn't second that regarding the iron meteorites. Cutting, preparing, stabilizing iron slices is very cost-intensive. One needs machines, consumables, the cut loss is high and a proper cut, grinding, polishing, etching etc is an extremely time-consuming process. So that I would suppose that most iron preparators would rather prefer to sell larger rough specimens and then at a lower price per gram, than smaller slices. Btw with Cape York I feel it more inappropriate to see two of the masses rotting for decades in the Danish rain in the court of the museum in Copenhagen. http://kuerzer.de/iwascapeyork (Photo M.Graul) Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Dave Gheesling Gesendet: Montag, 4. Februar 2008 06:54 An: 'Arizona Keith' Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Hi, Keith, I'd figured there was enough banter amongst the group already, but here is a last ditch effort to provoke some thinking. We haven't met yet, but I'm a collector in Atlanta. While I don't necessarily think it was a horrible end for this particular meteorite, the point, generally speaking, is a quite good one to consider (not taking and distributing photographs, which I'm sure everyone very much appreciates). It is unfortunate that this business has a built-in financial incentive to cut meteorites into very small pieces for distribution (because there is a larger market for smaller pieces at a higher per-gram price many meteorites are essentially destroyed...this is a plain fact). I'm not a tree hugger by any stretch, and in the case of this particular meteorite specimen the principles may not fully apply. But the larger point might be that it is, in fact, truly stupid to call someone else stupid for opening up the dialogue. Isn't respectful collaboration and exchange the point of a list such as this, anyway? Best to all, Dave __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
The only time I have seen when a meteorite gets destroyed is when they hack up an oriented piece or when they think the meteorite looks cool shaped like an Iguana. That cube looks awesome. Cant wait to see it in person. Thanks for the photo Keith Bob Evans -- Original message -- From: JKGwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree with Keith. This cube is a wonderful specimen that shows better than ordinary (not that meteorites are ordinary) slices. The real shame in meteorite specimen processing over cutting. This cube could have been cut into several slices but some one decided to preserve it as a cube. John At 09:58 PM 2/3/2008, Arizona Keith wrote: Hello List I can't understand why you think this is a horrible end for a meteorite. You can see the 3 dimensional Widmanstatten perfect and the shape of the troilite inclusions, better than in any 2D slice. No materiel was wasted in getting the cube shape, other than normal saw and grind waste, It was a large long brick, after removing several slices it's a cube. I think the Karl's did a great job. I'll post more later this week. Thanks for your time Keith - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day ARGH what horrible end for a meteorite.. Matteo - Original Message - Da : Arizona Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Data : Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:24:25 -0700 Hello List I like to post a Tucson Show Meteorite photo of the Day Joachim and Moritz Karl 5.3 kg Cape York Cube, IIIAB om, Greenland, Found 1818. http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucsonshow2008cc199thecube.jpg On display in Mike Farmer room, at the Inns suites. Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did seeing it. Keith Chandler AZ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
Isn't each rectangular slice also a geometric figure ? e.g. a square ? So this is a cube. It displays wonderful the 3-dimensional arrangement of the crystals, as this cube is cut 45° to the axis of the crystals. Wonderful 3D-Display! Christian I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc website: www.austromet.com Ing. Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:meteorite-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JKGwilliam Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:23 PM To: Arizona Keith; M come Meteorite Meteorites; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day I agree with Keith. This cube is a wonderful specimen that shows better than ordinary (not that meteorites are ordinary) slices. The real shame in meteorite specimen processing over cutting. This cube could have been cut into several slices but some one decided to preserve it as a cube. John At 09:58 PM 2/3/2008, Arizona Keith wrote: Hello List I can't understand why you think this is a horrible end for a meteorite. You can see the 3 dimensional Widmanstatten perfect and the shape of the troilite inclusions, better than in any 2D slice. No materiel was wasted in getting the cube shape, other than normal saw and grind waste, It was a large long brick, after removing several slices it's a cube. I think the Karl's did a great job. I'll post more later this week. Thanks for your time Keith - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day ARGH what horrible end for a meteorite.. Matteo - Original Message - Da : Arizona Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Data : Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:24:25 -0700 Hello List I like to post a Tucson Show Meteorite photo of the Day Joachim and Moritz Karl 5.3 kg Cape York Cube, IIIAB om, Greenland, Found 1818. http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucsonshow2008cc199thecube.jpg On display in Mike Farmer room, at the Inns suites. Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did seeing it. Keith Chandler AZ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
As some of you may you I only collect Meteorite Spheres. Most people seem to appreciate my collection but I've run across a few people that have demonstrated utter disdain about how I choose to collect. Personally I think that it's up to each individual to collect in a way that works for them. I have no problem with someone not liking my collection but there's a point when subjective criticism become rude and obnoxious behavior. IMO, Matteo's comments about this cube tend to be more toward the rude end of the spectrum. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
I have stoped for many time to answer or write in the list, or put many few emails...after have read this last comment probably is good I re-stop for other many time to write in this listyaw matteo - Original Message - Da : David Kitt Deyarmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Data : Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:40:26 -0500 As some of you may you I only collect Meteorite Spheres. Most people seem to appreciate my collection but I've run across a few people that have demonstrated utter disdain about how I choose to collect. Personally I think that it's up to each individual to collect in a way that works for them. I have no problem with someone not liking my collection but there's a point when subjective criticism become rude and obnoxious behavior. IMO, Matteo's comments about this cube tend to be more toward the rude end of the spectrum. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
Listoids, With very few comments here on the list I also feel the need to respond to this cube story. It doesn't matter how many slices are added for sale of Cape York, collectors always love them and pay plenty bucks for them. Now we start nagging about a cube..? If this sucker would also be sliced up we probably again will oooeehh and aaahh about the beauty of them. Now for those folksjust look at it as a very thick sliceHappy again? Look, I'm frustrated also for not making it to Tucson this year but at least I still have a life(can't believe I really said that) Have a good on you all. Especially for all the jerks who made it to Tucson, rrrgggrrr.. Best, Jan Bartels www.heavenlybodies.nl Holland __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
Just consider the source David. Most of us like your sphere collection. Don --- David Kitt Deyarmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As some of you may you I only collect Meteorite Spheres. Most people seem to appreciate my collection but I've run across a few people that have demonstrated utter disdain about how I choose to collect. Personally I think that it's up to each individual to collect in a way that works for them. I have no problem with someone not liking my collection but there's a point when subjective criticism become rude and obnoxious behavior. IMO, Matteo's comments about this cube tend to be more toward the rude end of the spectrum. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
Hello List I like to post a Tucson Show Meteorite photo of the Day Joachim and Moritz Karl 5.3 kg Cape York Cube, IIIAB om, Greenland, Found 1818. http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucsonshow2008cc199thecube.jpg On display in Mike Farmer room, at the Inns suites. Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did seeing it. Keith Chandler AZ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
ARGH what horrible end for a meteorite.. Matteo - Original Message - Da : Arizona Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Data : Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:24:25 -0700 Hello List I like to post a Tucson Show Meteorite photo of the Day Joachim and Moritz Karl 5.3 kg Cape York Cube, IIIAB om, Greenland, Found 1818. http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucsonshow2008cc199thecube.jpg On display in Mike Farmer room, at the Inns suites. Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did seeing it. Keith Chandler AZ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
Could you be any more stupid? If you have nothing nice to say about Keith's photos, do us all a favor and keep your mouth shut. Howard Steffic From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:39:19 +0100 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day ARGH what horrible end for a meteorite.. Matteo - Original Message - Da : Arizona Keith A : Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Data : Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:24:25 -0700 Hello List I like to post a Tucson Show Meteorite photo of the Day Joachim and Moritz Karl 5.3 kg Cape York Cube, IIIAB om, Greenland, Found 1818. http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucsonshow2008cc199thecube.jpg On display in Mike Farmer room, at the Inns suites. Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did seeing it. Keith Chandler AZ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
I have say of the meteorite, not of the photo. Destroy a important meteorite type Cape York for build a cube is a no-sense. Read first to speack matteo - Original Message - Da : Howard Steffic [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : RE: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Data : Sun, 3 Feb 2008 15:03:05 -0700 Could you be any more stupid? If you have nothing nice to say about Keith's photos, do us all a favor and keep your mouth shut. Howard Steffic From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:39:19 +0100 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day ARGH what horrible end for a meteorite.. Matteo - Original Message - Da : Arizona Keith A : Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Data : Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:24:25 -0700 Hello List I like to post a Tucson Show Meteorite photo of the Day Joachim and Moritz Karl 5.3 kg Cape York Cube, IIIAB om , Greenland, Found 1818. http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucsonshow2008cc199thecube.jpg On display in Mike Farmer room, at the Inns suites. Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did seeing it. Keith Chandler AZ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ ___ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
No Howard, he's not stupid, but - I think - jealous, because he failed to craft such a cube. http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteoritecollection/Hoba.JPG Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Howard Steffic Gesendet: Sonntag, 3. Februar 2008 23:03 An: M come Meteorite Meteorites; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Could you be any more stupid? If you have nothing nice to say about Keith's photos, do us all a favor and keep your mouth shut. Howard Steffic From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:39:19 +0100 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day ARGH what horrible end for a meteorite.. Matteo - Original Message - Da : Arizona Keith A : Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Data : Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:24:25 -0700 Hello List I like to post a Tucson Show Meteorite photo of the Day Joachim and Moritz Karl 5.3 kg Cape York Cube, IIIAB om, Greenland, Found 1818. http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucsonshow2008cc199thecube.jpg On display in Mike Farmer room, at the Inns suites. Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did seeing it. Keith Chandler AZ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
GREAT PHOTO --- Keith Keep them coming, more, more, I didn't make it to Tucson this year, its ALL GOOD Thanks, Tim Heitz MIDWEST METEORITES - http://www.meteorman.org/ - Original Message - From: Arizona Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 2:24 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Hello List I like to post a Tucson Show Meteorite photo of the Day Joachim and Moritz Karl 5.3 kg Cape York Cube, IIIAB om, Greenland, Found 1818. http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucsonshow2008cc199thecube.jpg On display in Mike Farmer room, at the Inns suites. Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did seeing it. Keith Chandler AZ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
Could you be any more stupid? he's not stupid, but - I think - jealous Keith's photo is awesome, as are all his photos. Thank you so much, Keith, for letting us participate in the Tucson Show events even though we are so far away! But, gentlemen, tolerance and freedom of opinion, please! Now that we don't hear very much from Steve Arnold, Chicago, it looks as if picking on Matteo is hip again! I must admit that when I saw that cube, my first idea was it must be a mock-up or something like that, ... maybe someone cracking a joke. The picture is fascinating, the cube breathtaking, Keith's idea to post the photo an excellent idea but I would not want to change the natural appearance of such an important meteorite and force it into such a geometrical corset. My very personal opinion, only! Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
List, This is a polarizing subject, to be sure. As much as I love the photos (please keep them coming, Keith), I agree that the destruction of meteorites is a problem. A little more on this via the following link (Part II): http://www.fallingrocks.com/priority.htm Also, the following are the Policies we've all agreed to when participating in the list (I've cut and pasted them below): General List Policies - 1. All posts need to relate to meteorites in some way 2. Please be courteous and professional at all times 3. Do not post -private messages- or -personal attacks- to the list (direct all personal replies to the specific recipient) 4. Please include a relevant -subject- in the subject of the email 5. Do NOT send -HTML- or -Rich Text- formatted emails ... only TEXT will be posted 6. Do NOT send emails with -file attachments- to the list (include a web link to the file) 7. Limit AD posts to once-per-week (i.e. refrain from spamming the list with ads) 8. All AD posts should contain the words -SALE- or -AD- in the subject of the email Just today, posts have strayed from at least #1, #2, #3, #7 and #8. This is a wonderful thing, the list, and the Policies are well structured to keep it that way. Apologies for the unsolicited opinion, but #2 and #3 are particularly important in keeping a good group together... Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M come Meteorite Meteorites Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 5:30 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day I have say of the meteorite, not of the photo. Destroy a important meteorite type Cape York for build a cube is a no-sense. Read first to speack matteo - Original Message - Da : Howard Steffic [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : RE: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Data : Sun, 3 Feb 2008 15:03:05 -0700 Could you be any more stupid? If you have nothing nice to say about Keith's photos, do us all a favor and keep your mouth shut. Howard Steffic From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:39:19 +0100 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day ARGH what horrible end for a meteorite.. Matteo - Original Message - Da : Arizona Keith A : Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Data : Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:24:25 -0700 Hello List I like to post a Tucson Show Meteorite photo of the Day Joachim and Moritz Karl 5.3 kg Cape York Cube, IIIAB om , Greenland, Found 1818. http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucsonshow2008cc199thecube.jpg On display in Mike Farmer room, at the Inns suites. Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did seeing it. Keith Chandler AZ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ ___ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
Hi, Keith, I'd figured there was enough banter amongst the group already, but here is a last ditch effort to provoke some thinking. We haven't met yet, but I'm a collector in Atlanta. While I don't necessarily think it was a horrible end for this particular meteorite, the point, generally speaking, is a quite good one to consider (not taking and distributing photographs, which I'm sure everyone very much appreciates). It is unfortunate that this business has a built-in financial incentive to cut meteorites into very small pieces for distribution (because there is a larger market for smaller pieces at a higher per-gram price many meteorites are essentially destroyed...this is a plain fact). I'm not a tree hugger by any stretch, and in the case of this particular meteorite specimen the principles may not fully apply. But the larger point might be that it is, in fact, truly stupid to call someone else stupid for opening up the dialogue. Isn't respectful collaboration and exchange the point of a list such as this, anyway? Best to all, Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arizona Keith Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 11:58 PM To: M come Meteorite Meteorites; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Hello List I can't understand why you think this is a horrible end for a meteorite. You can see the 3 dimensional Widmanstatten perfect and the shape of the troilite inclusions, better than in any 2D slice. No materiel was wasted in getting the cube shape, other than normal saw and grind waste, It was a large long brick, after removing several slices it's a cube. I think the Karl's did a great job. I'll post more later this week. Thanks for your time Keith - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day ARGH what horrible end for a meteorite.. Matteo - Original Message - Da : Arizona Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Data : Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:24:25 -0700 Hello List I like to post a Tucson Show Meteorite photo of the Day Joachim and Moritz Karl 5.3 kg Cape York Cube, IIIAB om, Greenland, Found 1818. http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucsonshow2008cc199thecube.jpg On display in Mike Farmer room, at the Inns suites. Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did seeing it. Keith Chandler AZ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
Hello List I can't understand why you think this is a horrible end for a meteorite. You can see the 3 dimensional Widmanstatten perfect and the shape of the troilite inclusions, better than in any 2D slice. No materiel was wasted in getting the cube shape, other than normal saw and grind waste, It was a large long brick, after removing several slices it's a cube. I think the Karl's did a great job. I'll post more later this week. Thanks for your time Keith - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day ARGH what horrible end for a meteorite.. Matteo - Original Message - Da : Arizona Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Data : Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:24:25 -0700 Hello List I like to post a Tucson Show Meteorite photo of the Day Joachim and Moritz Karl 5.3 kg Cape York Cube, IIIAB om, Greenland, Found 1818. http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucsonshow2008cc199thecube.jpg On display in Mike Farmer room, at the Inns suites. Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did seeing it. Keith Chandler AZ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
What is cooler than a Borg cube meteorite? Cheers, Pete From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:58:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Hello List I can't understand why you think this is a horrible end for a meteorite. You can see the 3 dimensional Widmanstatten perfect and the shape of the troilite inclusions, better than in any 2D slice. No materiel was wasted in getting the cube shape, other than normal saw and grind waste, It was a large long brick, after removing several slices it's a cube. I think the Karl's did a great job. I'll post more later this week. Thanks for your time Keith - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites To: Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day ARGH what horrible end for a meteorite.. Matteo - Original Message - Da : Arizona Keith A : Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Data : Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:24:25 -0700 Hello List I like to post a Tucson Show Meteorite photo of the Day Joachim and Moritz Karl 5.3 kg Cape York Cube, IIIAB om, Greenland, Found 1818. http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucsonshow2008cc199thecube.jpg On display in Mike Farmer room, at the Inns suites. Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did seeing it. Keith Chandler AZ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
