[meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale
I have scoured the net checking current prices offered for this type Lunar meteorite and am pretty confident that I can beat any of the currently advertised prices on this real nice Lunar by $200 or more. I have a few samples available, those interested, send me a email. whats available? 6.10g with fusion crust http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWALunar61ga.jpg 1.05g with fusion crust http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWALunar105ga.jpg .80g http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWALunar85g.jpg .65g http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWALunar65g.jpg Hope all is good with everyone, Greg C. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale
hi greg this material is not from me , however it looks like the monzoggabro, but i m not sur is it isone from photo aziz habibi aziz box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco phone. 21235576145 fax.21235576170 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale
What is the official or provisional NWA number for this material? Who studied it? Best Regards, Adam --- On Sat, 5/16/09, Greg Catterton wrote: > From: Greg Catterton > Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 3:42 PM > > I have scoured the net checking current prices offered for > this type Lunar meteorite and am pretty confident that I can > beat any of the currently advertised prices on this real > nice Lunar by $200 or more. > > I have a few samples available, those interested, send me a > email. > > whats available? > > 6.10g with fusion crust > http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWALunar61ga.jpg > > 1.05g with fusion crust > http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWALunar105ga.jpg > > .80g > http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWALunar85g.jpg > > .65g > http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWALunar65g.jpg > > Hope all is good with everyone, > > Greg C. > > > > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale
This is NWA 4734. You can see a picture of an 11g slice I have here: http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF1732.jpg and compare it to this one: http://www.meteoritemarket.com/NWA4734-596A.jpg and see its the same material. This has come from a very reputable supplier in Morocco and is without a doubt authentic. Greg C. --- On Sat, 5/16/09, Adam Hupe wrote: > From: Adam Hupe > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale > To: "Adam" > Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 9:31 PM > > What is the official or provisional NWA number for this > material? Who studied it? > > Best Regards, > > Adam > > > > --- On Sat, 5/16/09, Greg Catterton > wrote: > > > From: Greg Catterton > > Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for > sale > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 3:42 PM > > > > I have scoured the net checking current prices offered > for > > this type Lunar meteorite and am pretty confident that > I can > > beat any of the currently advertised prices on this > real > > nice Lunar by $200 or more. > > > > I have a few samples available, those interested, send > me a > > email. > > > > whats available? > > > > 6.10g with fusion crust > > http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWALunar61ga.jpg > > > > 1.05g with fusion crust > > http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWALunar105ga.jpg > > > > .80g > > http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWALunar85g.jpg > > > > .65g > > http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWALunar65g.jpg > > > > Hope all is good with everyone, > > > > Greg C. > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale
Not once did I ever say to anyone it came from you. Anyone who claims I did, I invite them post the email where I made that claim... I am sending a sample off to be tested Monday to Tony Irving and the test results will speak for themselves as to what this is - however Im sure anyone can see the picture of what I have: http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF1732.jpg and compare it with this: http://www.meteoritemarket.com/NWA4734-596A.jpg I want to state for the record, I am selling this for less becouse I dont need to get rich off selling it. I dont sell meteorites to make a living, pay for cars or houses... I sell them to help increase my personal collection. I know what I paid for this and if the others who have this paid anywhere close to what I did, they could sell it for half what they do and still triple the money they put into it - even with cutting loss. I know who I got it from is honest and reliable as for the authenticity. That said, I wont sell anymore until testing is done, but when it is, I will sell it for well under $1,200 per gram... Greg C. --- On Sun, 5/17/09, habibi abdelaziz wrote: > From: habibi abdelaziz > Subject: AD - Lunar available for sale > To: "meteorite list" > Cc: star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com > Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 3:32 AM > > hi greg > this material is not from me , however it looks like > the monzoggabro, > but i m not sur is it isone from photo > > aziz > habibi aziz > box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco > phone. 21235576145 > fax.21235576170 > > > > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale
Be careful Greg, now that you are offering planetaries at reasonable prices, you are going to be viewed as competition by the big guys - then they will start stabbing you in the back. Those who are driven by money are threatened by those like us who don't give a crap about profits. ;) Nice lunar. If I wasn't already sitting on my fair share of lunars, I'd buy a piece. Good luck. Best regards MikeG On 5/17/09, Greg Catterton wrote: > > Not once did I ever say to anyone it came from you. Anyone who claims I did, > I invite them post the email where I made that claim... > > I am sending a sample off to be tested Monday to Tony Irving and the test > results will speak for themselves as to what this is - however Im sure > anyone can see the picture of what I have: > http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF1732.jpg > and compare it with this: > http://www.meteoritemarket.com/NWA4734-596A.jpg > > I want to state for the record, I am selling this for less becouse I dont > need to get rich off selling it. I dont sell meteorites to make a living, > pay for cars or houses... I sell them to help increase my personal > collection. > I know what I paid for this and if the others who have this paid anywhere > close to what I did, they could sell it for half what they do and still > triple the money they put into it - even with cutting loss. > > I know who I got it from is honest and reliable as for the authenticity. > > That said, I wont sell anymore until testing is done, but when it is, I will > sell it for well under $1,200 per gram... > > Greg C. > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 5/17/09, habibi abdelaziz wrote: > >> From: habibi abdelaziz >> Subject: AD - Lunar available for sale >> To: "meteorite list" >> Cc: star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com >> Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 3:32 AM >> >> hi greg >> this material is not from me , however it looks like >> the monzoggabro, >> but i m not sur is it isone from photo >> >> aziz >> habibi aziz >> box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco >> phone. 21235576145 >> fax.21235576170 >> >> >> >> > > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -- . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale
This has nothing to do with competition. It has everything to do with proper chain of custody, legitimate nomenclature assignment, TKW figures, science and collector confidence. Just because a Moroccan dealer says something is a lunar meteorite does not make it so. Just ask the buyers who got ripped off in Tucson this year and the year before. There have been some very convincing lunar-looking Eucrites that have fooled some of the best. There was an embarrassing incident where a scientist claimed something was lunar before running all of the tests and it turned out to be a Eucrite. Many dealers had to recall the material after being in a hurry to put it on the market. To put things in perspective, Luniates are considered the top of the meteorite collectibles chain every since the article, "Mining for Meteorites" in the Smithsonian magazine stated so. Only advanced mineral collections incorporate Meteorite specimens. A mineral specimen is worth a fraction of its cost if the find location and history are not known. Advanced mineral collectors would be appalled by what has happened with Martian meteorites and self-pairings. One well-known dealer purchased material from a Moroccan who stated it was paired to one of our stones. We publicly objected to this dealer using nomenclature assigned to our stones so he sent a piece in for study. It turned out to be a completely new Martian meteorite that was almost lost to science. I would dislike seeing Lunar meteorites being treated the same as some Martian meteorites. Total known weights have been carefully recorded to this point and it would be a shame to lose control. I congratulate anybody who is able to acquire lunar material, have it Laboratory confirmed and pass the Meteoritical Society Nomenclature Committee for name assignment. It would demonstrate proper respect for some of the world's rarest material. Anything less is a disservice. Dealers are not allowed to rate their own diamonds or coins so why should meteorites that are much more rare be any different? Best Regards, Adam --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Galactic Stone & Ironworks wrote: > From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale > To: "Greg Catterton" > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 8:32 AM > Be careful Greg, now that you are > offering planetaries at reasonable > prices, you are going to be viewed as competition by the > big guys - > then they will start stabbing you in the back. Those > who are driven > by money are threatened by those like us who don't give a > crap about > profits. ;) > > Nice lunar. If I wasn't already sitting on my fair > share of lunars, > I'd buy a piece. > > Good luck. > > Best regards > > MikeG > > > > On 5/17/09, Greg Catterton > wrote: > > > > Not once did I ever say to anyone it came from you. > Anyone who claims I did, > > I invite them post the email where I made that > claim... > > > > I am sending a sample off to be tested Monday to Tony > Irving and the test > > results will speak for themselves as to what this is - > however Im sure > > anyone can see the picture of what I have: > > http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF1732.jpg > > and compare it with this: > > http://www.meteoritemarket.com/NWA4734-596A.jpg > > > > I want to state for the record, I am selling this for > less becouse I dont > > need to get rich off selling it. I dont sell > meteorites to make a living, > > pay for cars or houses... I sell them to help increase > my personal > > collection. > > I know what I paid for this and if the others who have > this paid anywhere > > close to what I did, they could sell it for half what > they do and still > > triple the money they put into it - even with cutting > loss. > > > > I know who I got it from is honest and reliable as for > the authenticity. > > > > That said, I wont sell anymore until testing is done, > but when it is, I will > > sell it for well under $1,200 per gram... > > > > Greg C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 5/17/09, habibi abdelaziz > wrote: > > > >> From: habibi abdelaziz > >> Subject: AD - Lunar available for sale > >> To: "meteorite list" > >> Cc: star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com > >> Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 3:32 AM > >> > >> hi greg > >> this material is not from me , however > it looks like > >> the monzoggabro, > >> but i m not sur is it isone from
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale
"There have been some very convincing lunar-looking Eucrites that have fooled some of the best. " And there are some convincing lunar-looking eucrites that the best have fooled the rest of us with. ;) Some of them are so convincing that they are lunars, right? ;) The Moroccans are no more or less trustworthy than any other nationality - including Americans. I know the score now. Others do also. That's all I am going to say in public about it. On 5/17/09, Adam Hupe wrote: > > This has nothing to do with competition. It has everything to do with proper > chain of custody, legitimate nomenclature assignment, TKW figures, science > and collector confidence. Just because a Moroccan dealer says something is > a lunar meteorite does not make it so. Just ask the buyers who got ripped > off in Tucson this year and the year before. There have been some very > convincing lunar-looking Eucrites that have fooled some of the best. There > was an embarrassing incident where a scientist claimed something was lunar > before running all of the tests and it turned out to be a Eucrite. Many > dealers had to recall the material after being in a hurry to put it on the > market. > > To put things in perspective, Luniates are considered the top of the > meteorite collectibles chain every since the article, "Mining for > Meteorites" in the Smithsonian magazine stated so. Only advanced mineral > collections incorporate Meteorite specimens. A mineral specimen is worth a > fraction of its cost if the find location and history are not known. > > Advanced mineral collectors would be appalled by what has happened with > Martian meteorites and self-pairings. One well-known dealer purchased > material from a Moroccan who stated it was paired to one of our stones. We > publicly objected to this dealer using nomenclature assigned to our stones > so he sent a piece in for study. It turned out to be a completely new > Martian meteorite that was almost lost to science. > > I would dislike seeing Lunar meteorites being treated the same as some > Martian meteorites. Total known weights have been carefully recorded to this > point and it would be a shame to lose control. > > I congratulate anybody who is able to acquire lunar material, have it > Laboratory confirmed and pass the Meteoritical Society Nomenclature > Committee for name assignment. It would demonstrate proper respect for some > of the world's rarest material. Anything less is a disservice. Dealers are > not allowed to rate their own diamonds or coins so why should meteorites > that are much more rare be any different? > > > Best Regards, > > Adam > > > > --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Galactic Stone & Ironworks > wrote: > >> From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale >> To: "Greg Catterton" >> Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 8:32 AM >> Be careful Greg, now that you are >> offering planetaries at reasonable >> prices, you are going to be viewed as competition by the >> big guys - >> then they will start stabbing you in the back. Those >> who are driven >> by money are threatened by those like us who don't give a >> crap about >> profits. ;) >> >> Nice lunar. If I wasn't already sitting on my fair >> share of lunars, >> I'd buy a piece. >> >> Good luck. >> >> Best regards >> >> MikeG >> >> >> >> On 5/17/09, Greg Catterton >> wrote: >> > >> > Not once did I ever say to anyone it came from you. >> Anyone who claims I did, >> > I invite them post the email where I made that >> claim... >> > >> > I am sending a sample off to be tested Monday to Tony >> Irving and the test >> > results will speak for themselves as to what this is - >> however Im sure >> > anyone can see the picture of what I have: >> > http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF1732.jpg >> > and compare it with this: >> > http://www.meteoritemarket.com/NWA4734-596A.jpg >> > >> > I want to state for the record, I am selling this for >> less becouse I dont >> > need to get rich off selling it. I dont sell >> meteorites to make a living, >> > pay for cars or houses... I sell them to help increase >> my personal >> > collection. >> > I know what I paid for this and if the others who have >> this paid anywhere >> > close to what I did, they could sell it for half what >> they do and still >> > triple the money they put into it - even
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale
I understand that. I have already taken the steps to get it checked out. The first thing I did once I got it was to contact Ted Bunch. Perhaps my post was a bit harsh, but some of the emails I have gotten made me feel like people are pissed that I am selling it cheaper then others want me to. Greg C. --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Adam Hupe wrote: > From: Adam Hupe > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale > To: "Adam" > Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 12:27 PM > > This has nothing to do with competition. It has everything > to do with proper chain of custody, legitimate nomenclature > assignment, TKW figures, science and collector > confidence. Just because a Moroccan dealer says > something is a lunar meteorite does not make it so. Just ask > the buyers who got ripped off in Tucson this year and the > year before. There have been some very convincing > lunar-looking Eucrites that have fooled some of the best. > There was an embarrassing incident where a scientist claimed > something was lunar before running all of the tests and it > turned out to be a Eucrite. Many dealers had to recall the > material after being in a hurry to put it on the > market. > > To put things in perspective, Luniates are considered the > top of the meteorite collectibles chain every since the > article, "Mining for Meteorites" in the Smithsonian magazine > stated so. Only advanced mineral collections incorporate > Meteorite specimens. A mineral specimen is worth a fraction > of its cost if the find location and history are not known. > > Advanced mineral collectors would be appalled by what has > happened with Martian meteorites and self-pairings. > One well-known dealer purchased material from a Moroccan who > stated it was paired to one of our stones. We publicly > objected to this dealer using nomenclature assigned to our > stones so he sent a piece in for study. It turned out > to be a completely new Martian meteorite that was almost > lost to science. > > I would dislike seeing Lunar meteorites being treated the > same as some Martian meteorites. Total known weights have > been carefully recorded to this point and it would be a > shame to lose control. > > I congratulate anybody who is able to acquire lunar > material, have it Laboratory confirmed and pass the > Meteoritical Society Nomenclature Committee for name > assignment. It would demonstrate proper respect for > some of the world's rarest material. Anything less is > a disservice. Dealers are not allowed to rate their own > diamonds or coins so why should meteorites that are much > more rare be any different? > > > Best Regards, > > Adam > > > > --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Galactic Stone & Ironworks > wrote: > > > From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for > sale > > To: "Greg Catterton" > > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 8:32 AM > > Be careful Greg, now that you are > > offering planetaries at reasonable > > prices, you are going to be viewed as competition by > the > > big guys - > > then they will start stabbing you in the back. > Those > > who are driven > > by money are threatened by those like us who don't > give a > > crap about > > profits. ;) > > > > Nice lunar. If I wasn't already sitting on my fair > > share of lunars, > > I'd buy a piece. > > > > Good luck. > > > > Best regards > > > > MikeG > > > > > > > > On 5/17/09, Greg Catterton > > wrote: > > > > > > Not once did I ever say to anyone it came from > you. > > Anyone who claims I did, > > > I invite them post the email where I made that > > claim... > > > > > > I am sending a sample off to be tested Monday to > Tony > > Irving and the test > > > results will speak for themselves as to what this > is - > > however Im sure > > > anyone can see the picture of what I have: > > > http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF1732.jpg > > > and compare it with this: > > > http://www.meteoritemarket.com/NWA4734-596A.jpg > > > > > > I want to state for the record, I am selling this > for > > less becouse I dont > > > need to get rich off selling it. I dont sell > > meteorites to make a living, > > > pay for cars or houses... I sell them to help > increase > > my personal > > > collection. > > > I know what I paid for this and if the others who >
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale
Dear List - Greg C. has supplied a sample for classification. Although the sample looks like a lunar on first impression, Tony Irving and I will do the classification and answer the question as to whether it is truly lunar or a wannabe. Ted Bunch On 5/17/09 9:48 AM, "Greg Catterton" wrote: > > I understand that. I have already taken the steps to get it checked out. > The first thing I did once I got it was to contact Ted Bunch. > > Perhaps my post was a bit harsh, but some of the emails I have gotten made me > feel like people are pissed that I am selling it cheaper then others want me > to. > > Greg C. > > --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Adam Hupe wrote: > >> From: Adam Hupe >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale >> To: "Adam" >> Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 12:27 PM >> >> This has nothing to do with competition. It has everything >> to do with proper chain of custody, legitimate nomenclature >> assignment, TKW figures, science and collector >> confidence. Just because a Moroccan dealer says >> something is a lunar meteorite does not make it so. Just ask >> the buyers who got ripped off in Tucson this year and the >> year before. There have been some very convincing >> lunar-looking Eucrites that have fooled some of the best. >> There was an embarrassing incident where a scientist claimed >> something was lunar before running all of the tests and it >> turned out to be a Eucrite. Many dealers had to recall the >> material after being in a hurry to put it on the >> market. >> >> To put things in perspective, Luniates are considered the >> top of the meteorite collectibles chain every since the >> article, "Mining for Meteorites" in the Smithsonian magazine >> stated so. Only advanced mineral collections incorporate >> Meteorite specimens. A mineral specimen is worth a fraction >> of its cost if the find location and history are not known. >> >> Advanced mineral collectors would be appalled by what has >> happened with Martian meteorites and self-pairings. >> One well-known dealer purchased material from a Moroccan who >> stated it was paired to one of our stones. We publicly >> objected to this dealer using nomenclature assigned to our >> stones so he sent a piece in for study. It turned out >> to be a completely new Martian meteorite that was almost >> lost to science. >> >> I would dislike seeing Lunar meteorites being treated the >> same as some Martian meteorites. Total known weights have >> been carefully recorded to this point and it would be a >> shame to lose control. >> >> I congratulate anybody who is able to acquire lunar >> material, have it Laboratory confirmed and pass the >> Meteoritical Society Nomenclature Committee for name >> assignment. It would demonstrate proper respect for >> some of the world's rarest material. Anything less is >> a disservice. Dealers are not allowed to rate their own >> diamonds or coins so why should meteorites that are much >> more rare be any different? >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Adam >> >> >> >> --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Galactic Stone & Ironworks >> wrote: >> >>> From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for >> sale >>> To: "Greg Catterton" >>> Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 8:32 AM >>> Be careful Greg, now that you are >>> offering planetaries at reasonable >>> prices, you are going to be viewed as competition by >> the >>> big guys - >>> then they will start stabbing you in the back. >> Those >>> who are driven >>> by money are threatened by those like us who don't >> give a >>> crap about >>> profits. ;) >>> >>> Nice lunar. If I wasn't already sitting on my fair >>> share of lunars, >>> I'd buy a piece. >>> >>> Good luck. >>> >>> Best regards >>> >>> MikeG >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/17/09, Greg Catterton >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Not once did I ever say to anyone it came from >> you. >>> Anyone who claims I did, >>>> I invite them post the email where I made that >>> claim... >>>> >>>> I am sending a sample off to be tested Monday to >> Tony >>> Irving and the test >>>> results
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale
Greg, If it is the real Monzogabbro, you can sell it using the number 4734, it came from the stone Dr. jambon analysed and got the 20g twice, you don't need to present another sample. Good luck Aziz --- On Sat, 5/16/09, Greg Catterton wrote: > From: Greg Catterton > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 6:59 PM > > This is NWA 4734. > You can see a picture of an 11g slice I have here: > http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF1732.jpg > and compare it to this one: > http://www.meteoritemarket.com/NWA4734-596A.jpg > and see its the same material. > This has come from a very reputable supplier in Morocco and > is without a doubt authentic. > > > Greg C. > > > --- On Sat, 5/16/09, Adam Hupe > wrote: > > > From: Adam Hupe > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for > sale > > To: "Adam" > > Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 9:31 PM > > > > What is the official or provisional NWA number for > this > > material? Who studied it? > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 5/16/09, Greg Catterton > > wrote: > > > > > From: Greg Catterton > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available > for > > sale > > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 3:42 PM > > > > > > I have scoured the net checking current prices > offered > > for > > > this type Lunar meteorite and am pretty confident > that > > I can > > > beat any of the currently advertised prices on > this > > real > > > nice Lunar by $200 or more. > > > > > > I have a few samples available, those interested, > send > > me a > > > email. > > > > > > whats available? > > > > > > 6.10g with fusion crust > > > http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWALunar61ga.jpg > > > > > > 1.05g with fusion crust > > > http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWALunar105ga.jpg > > > > > > .80g > > > http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWALunar85g.jpg > > > > > > .65g > > > http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWALunar65g.jpg > > > > > > Hope all is good with everyone, > > > > > > Greg C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > __ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale
Adam, Actually, it has *everything* to do with competition. There are those on this List, though they be few in number, who don't gouge their customers when they sell a meteorite. Too many dealers charge outrageous prices for similar products. Inevitably, I read posts from the high priced dealers putting down those dealers who give a better bargain. I'll say it again, it has everything to do with competion. As one who has limited financial resources, I have always appreciated those dealers who give a good product, while charging a *fair* price. Sometimes I have to laugh and just shake my head when I see some of the "deals" being offered by the more unreasonable, high charging dealers. Greg Lindh > Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 09:27:25 -0700 > From: raremeteori...@yahoo.com > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale > > > This has nothing to do with competition. It has everything to do with proper > chain of custody, legitimate nomenclature assignment, TKW figures, science > and collector confidence. Just because a Moroccan dealer says something is a > lunar meteorite does not make it so. Just ask the buyers who got ripped off > in Tucson this year and the year before. There have been some very convincing > lunar-looking Eucrites that have fooled some of the best. There was an > embarrassing incident where a scientist claimed something was lunar before > running all of the tests and it turned out to be a Eucrite. Many dealers had > to recall the material after being in a hurry to put it on the market. > > To put things in perspective, Luniates are considered the top of the > meteorite collectibles chain every since the article, "Mining for Meteorites" > in the Smithsonian magazine stated so. Only advanced mineral collections > incorporate Meteorite specimens. A mineral specimen is worth a fraction of > its cost if the find location and history are not known. > > Advanced mineral collectors would be appalled by what has happened with > Martian meteorites and self-pairings. One well-known dealer purchased > material from a Moroccan who stated it was paired to one of our stones. We > publicly objected to this dealer using nomenclature assigned to our stones so > he sent a piece in for study. It turned out to be a completely new Martian > meteorite that was almost lost to science. > > I would dislike seeing Lunar meteorites being treated the same as some > Martian meteorites. Total known weights have been carefully recorded to this > point and it would be a shame to lose control. > > I congratulate anybody who is able to acquire lunar material, have it > Laboratory confirmed and pass the Meteoritical Society Nomenclature Committee > for name assignment. It would demonstrate proper respect for some of the > world's rarest material. Anything less is a disservice. Dealers are not > allowed to rate their own diamonds or coins so why should meteorites that are > much more rare be any different? > > > Best Regards, > > Adam > > > > --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Galactic Stone & Ironworks wrote: > >> From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale >> To: "Greg Catterton" >> Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 8:32 AM >> Be careful Greg, now that you are >> offering planetaries at reasonable >> prices, you are going to be viewed as competition by the >> big guys - >> then they will start stabbing you in the back. Those >> who are driven >> by money are threatened by those like us who don't give a >> crap about >> profits. ;) >> >> Nice lunar. If I wasn't already sitting on my fair >> share of lunars, >> I'd buy a piece. >> >> Good luck. >> >> Best regards >> >> MikeG >> >> >> >> On 5/17/09, Greg Catterton >> wrote: >>> >>> Not once did I ever say to anyone it came from you. >> Anyone who claims I did, >>> I invite them post the email where I made that >> claim... >>> >>> I am sending a sample off to be tested Monday to Tony >> Irving and the test >>> results will speak for themselves as to what this is - >> however Im sure >>> anyone can see the picture of what I have: >>> http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF1732.jpg >>> and compare it with this: >>> http://www.meteoritemarket.com/NWA4734-596A.jpg >>> >>> I want to state for the record, I am selling this
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale
How is this gouging people, over a $1,000.00 worth of lunar material started at just 99 cents? This material has been running long before this conversation started. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140320408963 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200341681245 I have several auctions running, all started at just 99 cents. Let the buyer decide who is or is not gouging as this is a ridiculous statement when it comes to me and has no merit whatsoever. Best Regards, Adam --- On Sun, 5/17/09, GREG LINDH wrote: > From: GREG LINDH > Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale > To: raremeteori...@yahoo.com > Cc: "meteorite-list" > Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 3:25 PM > > > Adam, > > > Actually, it has *everything* to do with > competition. There are those on this List, though they > be few in number, who don't gouge their customers when they > sell a meteorite. Too many dealers charge outrageous > prices for similar products. Inevitably, I read posts > from the high priced dealers putting down those dealers who > give a better bargain. > I'll say it again, it has everything to do > with competion. As one who has limited financial > resources, I have always appreciated those dealers who give > a good product, while charging a *fair* price. > Sometimes I have to laugh and just shake my head when I see > some of the "deals" being offered by the more unreasonable, > high charging dealers. > > Greg Lindh > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 09:27:25 -0700 > > From: raremeteori...@yahoo.com > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for > sale > > > > > > This has nothing to do with competition. It has > everything to do with proper chain of custody, legitimate > nomenclature assignment, TKW figures, science and collector > confidence. Just because a Moroccan dealer says something is > a lunar meteorite does not make it so. Just ask the buyers > who got ripped off in Tucson this year and the year before. > There have been some very convincing lunar-looking Eucrites > that have fooled some of the best. There was an embarrassing > incident where a scientist claimed something was lunar > before running all of the tests and it turned out to be a > Eucrite. Many dealers had to recall the material after being > in a hurry to put it on the market. > > > > To put things in perspective, Luniates are considered > the top of the meteorite collectibles chain every since the > article, "Mining for Meteorites" in the Smithsonian magazine > stated so. Only advanced mineral collections incorporate > Meteorite specimens. A mineral specimen is worth a fraction > of its cost if the find location and history are not known. > > > > Advanced mineral collectors would be appalled by what > has happened with Martian meteorites and self-pairings. One > well-known dealer purchased material from a Moroccan who > stated it was paired to one of our stones. We publicly > objected to this dealer using nomenclature assigned to our > stones so he sent a piece in for study. It turned out to be > a completely new Martian meteorite that was almost lost to > science. > > > > I would dislike seeing Lunar meteorites being treated > the same as some Martian meteorites. Total known weights > have been carefully recorded to this point and it would be a > shame to lose control. > > > > I congratulate anybody who is able to acquire lunar > material, have it Laboratory confirmed and pass the > Meteoritical Society Nomenclature Committee for name > assignment. It would demonstrate proper respect for some of > the world's rarest material. Anything less is a disservice. > Dealers are not allowed to rate their own diamonds or coins > so why should meteorites that are much more rare be any > different? > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Galactic Stone & > Ironworks wrote: > > > >> From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks > >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available > for sale > >> To: "Greg Catterton" > >> Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >> Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 8:32 AM > >> Be careful Greg, now that you are > >> offering planetaries at reasonable > >> prices, you are going to be viewed as competition > by the > >> big guys - > >> then they will start stabbing you in the > back. Those > >> who are driven > >
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale
Adam, Look, I understand that you're a big time hunter/dealer. I'm just a relatively new collector who has had to put my collecting on hold due to the "fantastic economy". So, I don't claim to know nearly as much as you as far as values, etc... But, right now, you have a 362 mg Dhofar 910 lunar which started out at $.99 and has already been bid up several times so that the bid now stands at $152.50. The time remaining until the auction ends is 1 day, 18hours. As far as I'm concerned, the most important fact follows. Everyone knows that the real action as far as bidding is concerned takes place in the last 30 seconds of the auction. Right? So, let's say that the bidding keeps rising between now and the end of the countdown. Who knows how high it will have gotten to by the time you have 30 seconds left. I can only assume from past experience that it will be higher than the present $152.50. Then, during that last 30 seconds of the auction things will really begin to pop. In the end, your "Very Last", "Rare" meteorite will have sold for what? I think a whole bunch more than $.99. Right? So, just saying that you put up lunar meteorites for $.99 is really meaningless. You know that the bidding will drive the price up into the stratosphere. The same thing can be said for your NWA 5000 (a spectacular meteorite, by the way). It started at $.99, but its already up to $331.00. The time remaining until the end of that auction is 1 day, 17 hours. Again, my guess is that it will continue to rise in price over the next day or so, reach the 30 second mark and then once again, its price will explode. So, once again, the $.99 beginning price is meaningless. As I said earlier, I'm just a small time collector. Once, I discussed the way the bidding process works here on the List about 2 years ago, and I had a dealer at that time write to me and give me a rather uncharitable lecture. In his emails to me, he didn't address me as "Greg". No, no, he addressed me as "Mr. Tight Ass". He said that I should be happy to bid multiple times and very high so that he and other dealers would be able to stay in business. Personally, I found his "reasoning" to be a bit disingenuous. When he goes into to buy a car, and the dealer says, this car cost $30,000, I wonder if he would say to the dealer, "No, no, here let me help you out. I wouldn't want you to go out of business, so I'm going to give you $80,000 for the car." Yeah, right! I've observed a few things in my time perusing this List over the past couple of years. One of the more important things is that there are some dealers who seem to give a more fair deal than others. I'm not going to put you into a category, one way or the other. I'll just say that I have found some dealers who have treated me with respect (a rare treat, indeed), and have also priced their goods in such a way that I was able to buy a few nice pieces. For what it's worth, that's the way I see things here. Regards, Greg Lindh - Original Message - From: "Adam Hupe" To: "Adam" Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale How is this gouging people, over a $1,000.00 worth of lunar material started at just 99 cents? This material has been running long before this conversation started. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140320408963 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200341681245 I have several auctions running, all started at just 99 cents. Let the buyer decide who is or is not gouging as this is a ridiculous statement when it comes to me and has no merit whatsoever. Best Regards, Adam --- On Sun, 5/17/09, GREG LINDH wrote: > From: GREG LINDH > Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale > To: raremeteori...@yahoo.com > Cc: "meteorite-list" > Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 3:25 PM > > > Adam, > > > Actually, it has *everything* to do with > competition. There are those on this List, though they > be few in number, who don't gouge their customers when they > sell a meteorite. Too many dealers charge outrageous > prices for similar products. Inevitably, I read posts > from the high priced dealers putting down those dealers who > give a better bargain. > I'll say it again, it has everything to do > with competion. As one who has limited financial > resources, I have always appreciated those dealers who give > a good product, while charging a *fair* price. > Sometimes I have to laugh and just shake my head when I see > some of the "deals" being offered by the more unreasonable, > high charging dealers. > > Greg Lindh > > > >
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale
Hola Greg, Interesting point, but kind of moot; while you are correct in stating that Adam is assuming relatively little financial risk in listing items with starting bids of $0.99, if you have problems with the prices they're fetching, the people you should be complaining to are collectors, not him. In this case, he's not the one setting the price. But then I suppose the question would be - if dealers are artificially inflating prices - and then collectors are believing that these rocks are actually worth that much - who's to blame? Do you blame the masses for their ignorance? Or do you blame the people trying to sell them at $1,000/g in the first place? It's a collector's market, Greg, and in this case, supply seems to be pretty much at the level of demand. Lunars are listed for that much - and they sell, so prices clearly aren't too high. I'd like it if they were lower, but things being what they are...well, they are what they are. I personally wouldn't pay $1,000/g for a Lunar, so I don't buy them. The one small slice we did buy (ever) was at $650/g, which is a price I consider to be fair, even considering that the monzogabbro NWA 4734 was initially being sold for $250/g directly from Morocco. I know because I edited the original seller's email to the met-list and forwarded it for him.* To that end, you're asking over four times the original asking price of the material you're selling. I wonder where the money went... Regards, Jason *In retrospect, his asking price was $250/g. The selling price, especially for larger specimens, was undoubtedly less. On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 9:37 PM, GREG LINDH wrote: > > Adam, > > Look, I understand that you're a big time hunter/dealer. I'm just a > relatively new collector who has had to put my collecting on hold due to the > "fantastic economy". So, I don't claim to know nearly as much as you as far > as values, etc... But, right now, you have a 362 mg Dhofar 910 lunar which > started out at $.99 and has already been bid up several times so that the > bid now stands at $152.50. The time remaining until the auction ends is 1 > day, 18hours. As far as I'm concerned, the most important fact follows. > Everyone knows that the real action as far as bidding is concerned takes > place in the last 30 seconds of the auction. Right? So, let's say that the > bidding keeps rising between now and the end of the countdown. Who knows > how high it will have gotten to by the time you have 30 seconds left. I can > only assume from past experience that it will be higher than the present > $152.50. Then, during that last 30 seconds of the auction things will > really begin to pop. In the end, your "Very Last", "Rare" meteorite will > have sold for what? I think a whole bunch more than $.99. Right? So, just > saying that you put up lunar meteorites for $.99 is really meaningless. You > know that the bidding will drive the price up into the stratosphere. > The same thing can be said for your NWA 5000 (a spectacular meteorite, by > the way). It started at $.99, but its already up to $331.00. The time > remaining until the end of that auction is 1 day, 17 hours. Again, my guess > is that it will continue to rise in price over the next day or so, reach the > 30 second mark and then once again, its price will explode. So, once again, > the $.99 beginning price is meaningless. > As I said earlier, I'm just a small time collector. Once, I discussed the > way the bidding process works here on the List about 2 years ago, and I had > a dealer at that time write to me and give me a rather uncharitable lecture. > In his emails to me, he didn't address me as "Greg". No, no, he addressed > me as "Mr. Tight Ass". He said that I should be happy to bid multiple times > and very high so that he and other dealers would be able to stay in > business. Personally, I found his "reasoning" to be a bit disingenuous. > When he goes into to buy a car, and the dealer says, this car cost $30,000, > I wonder if he would say to the dealer, "No, no, here let me help you out. > I wouldn't want you to go out of business, so I'm going to give you $80,000 > for the car." Yeah, right! > I've observed a few things in my time perusing this List over the past > couple of years. One of the more important things is that there are some > dealers who seem to give a more fair deal than others. > I'm not going to put you into a category, one way or the other. I'll just > say that I have found some dealers who have treated me with respect (a rare > treat, indeed), and have also priced their goods in such a way that I was > able to buy a few nice pieces. > For w
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale
Hi Jason, Believe me when I tell you, I understand the "law of supply and demand". My main point is that there are some hunter/dealers who are definitely more reasonable than others. I have what I consider to be some very nice specimens in my rather small collection. The people who sold them to me did so at reasonable, fair prices. Some I bought as "Buy Nows" and some I bid for. I always did well on the bid items. I always won and the price was right. I made the mistake of saying on the List that I would always wait until the last second to place my bid. That is what instigated the rather rude dealer to address me as "Mr. Tight Ass" and I believe he said that people like me should be "shot" or "hung"...I can't remember which. Unfortunately, he is typical of many here on the List. This is not a blanket statement. I have wrtten to and dealt with some very amiable and fair people, who not only sent me meteorites, but also much information and encouragement. I only wish that there were more like that here. Best regards, Greg Lindh > Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 21:54:57 -0700 > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale > From: meteorite...@gmail.com > To: gee...@msn.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > Hola Greg, > Interesting point, but kind of moot; while you are correct in stating > that Adam is assuming relatively little financial risk in listing > items with starting bids of $0.99, if you have problems with the > prices they're fetching, the people you should be complaining to are > collectors, not him. In this case, he's not the one setting the > price. > But then I suppose the question would be - if dealers are artificially > inflating prices - and then collectors are believing that these rocks > are actually worth that much - who's to blame? Do you blame the > masses for their ignorance? Or do you blame the people trying to sell > them at $1,000/g in the first place? It's a collector's market, Greg, > and in this case, supply seems to be pretty much at the level of > demand. Lunars are listed for that much - and they sell, so prices > clearly aren't too high. I'd like it if they were lower, but things > being what they are...well, they are what they are. I personally > wouldn't pay $1,000/g for a Lunar, so I don't buy them. The one small > slice we did buy (ever) was at $650/g, which is a price I consider to > be fair, even considering that the monzogabbro NWA 4734 was initially > being sold for $250/g directly from Morocco. I know because I edited > the original seller's email to the met-list and forwarded it for him.* > To that end, you're asking over four times the original asking price > of the material you're selling. I wonder where the money went... > Regards, > Jason > > *In retrospect, his asking price was $250/g. The selling price, > especially for larger specimens, was undoubtedly less. > > > > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 9:37 PM, GREG LINDH wrote: >> >> Adam, >> >> Look, I understand that you're a big time hunter/dealer. I'm just a >> relatively new collector who has had to put my collecting on hold due to the >> "fantastic economy". So, I don't claim to know nearly as much as you as far >> as values, etc... But, right now, you have a 362 mg Dhofar 910 lunar which >> started out at $.99 and has already been bid up several times so that the >> bid now stands at $152.50. The time remaining until the auction ends is 1 >> day, 18hours. As far as I'm concerned, the most important fact follows. >> Everyone knows that the real action as far as bidding is concerned takes >> place in the last 30 seconds of the auction. Right? So, let's say that the >> bidding keeps rising between now and the end of the countdown. Who knows >> how high it will have gotten to by the time you have 30 seconds left. I can >> only assume from past experience that it will be higher than the present >> $152.50. Then, during that last 30 seconds of the auction things will >> really begin to pop. In the end, your "Very Last", "Rare" meteorite will >> have sold for what? I think a whole bunch more than $.99. Right? So, just >> saying that you put up lunar meteorites for $.99 is really meaningless. You >> know that the bidding will drive the price up into the stratosphere. >> The same thing can be said for your NWA 5000 (a spectacular meteorite, by >> the way). It started at $.99, but its already up to $331.00. The time >> remaining until the end of that auction is 1 day, 17 hours. Again, my gue
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale
Hola Greg, So you call them greedy because they call you stingy...seems like we have dealers calling thrifty collectors like you and me "Tight Asses" and, well, you're doing better by criticizing them for asking for higher prices, but you're pretty much doing the same thing to them, notably without the profanity. I will say that I agree with your strategy, and that the dealers criticizing you have undoubtedly used it in the past as well; I don't know anyone who seriously uses ebay as a buyer and doesn't snipe. But there you go - people will be hypocrites. I'm with you on this one; if anyone criticizes you for doing that, they should take all of their material off of ebay and sell retail only. Or even better - a blind auction where no one knows what the others are bidding or if they are in the lead. That's the only way to get rid of such tactics. But I have the feeling that it would backfire, unless truly spectacular specimens were involved. Regards, Jason On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 10:44 PM, GREG LINDH wrote: > > > Hi Jason, > > Believe me when I tell you, I understand the "law of supply and demand". My > main point is that there are some hunter/dealers who are definitely more > reasonable than others. I have what I consider to be some very nice > specimens in my rather small collection. The people who sold them to me did > so at reasonable, fair prices. Some I bought as "Buy Nows" and some I bid > for. I always did well on the bid items. I always won and the price was > right. I made the mistake of saying on the List that I would always wait > until the last second to place my bid. That is what instigated the rather > rude dealer to address me as "Mr. Tight Ass" and I believe he said that > people like me should be "shot" or "hung"...I can't remember which. > Unfortunately, he is typical of many here on the List. This is not a blanket > statement. I have wrtten to and dealt with some very amiable and fair > people, who not only sent me meteorites, but also much information and > encouragement. I only wish that there were more like that here. > > > Best regards, > Greg Lindh > > > > > >> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 21:54:57 -0700 >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale >> From: meteorite...@gmail.com >> To: gee...@msn.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> >> Hola Greg, >> Interesting point, but kind of moot; while you are correct in stating >> that Adam is assuming relatively little financial risk in listing >> items with starting bids of $0.99, if you have problems with the >> prices they're fetching, the people you should be complaining to are >> collectors, not him. In this case, he's not the one setting the >> price. >> But then I suppose the question would be - if dealers are artificially >> inflating prices - and then collectors are believing that these rocks >> are actually worth that much - who's to blame? Do you blame the >> masses for their ignorance? Or do you blame the people trying to sell >> them at $1,000/g in the first place? It's a collector's market, Greg, >> and in this case, supply seems to be pretty much at the level of >> demand. Lunars are listed for that much - and they sell, so prices >> clearly aren't too high. I'd like it if they were lower, but things >> being what they are...well, they are what they are. I personally >> wouldn't pay $1,000/g for a Lunar, so I don't buy them. The one small >> slice we did buy (ever) was at $650/g, which is a price I consider to >> be fair, even considering that the monzogabbro NWA 4734 was initially >> being sold for $250/g directly from Morocco. I know because I edited >> the original seller's email to the met-list and forwarded it for him.* >> To that end, you're asking over four times the original asking price >> of the material you're selling. I wonder where the money went... >> Regards, >> Jason >> >> *In retrospect, his asking price was $250/g. The selling price, >> especially for larger specimens, was undoubtedly less. >> >> >> >> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 9:37 PM, GREG LINDH wrote: >>> >>> Adam, >>> >>> Look, I understand that you're a big time hunter/dealer. I'm just a >>> relatively new collector who has had to put my collecting on hold due to the >>> "fantastic economy". So, I don't claim to know nearly as much as you as far >>> as values, etc... But, right now, you have a 362 mg D
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale
Hi Greg and Greg and all, When Adam and others put their lunars on eBay they are taking a risk. Those specimens might sell for considerably more or less than say, $1000/gram. I've seen many Mars and moon meteorites go for $200-500 a gram on eBay over the years. Those selling them probably felt some disappointment at such a low price but they continued to take the risk. I'm very grateful for people like Adam and others who work hard to acquire material, get it classified and then allow collectors a fair shake at buying it at a price we can afford. Congratulations on your lunar Greg. Your price is fair and I wish you well in your sales. Bob On 5/17/09, GREG LINDH wrote: > >Adam, > > Look, I understand that you're a big time hunter/dealer. I'm just a > relatively new collector who has had to put my collecting on hold due to the > "fantastic economy". So, I don't claim to know nearly as much as you as far > as values, etc... But, right now, you have a 362 mg Dhofar 910 lunar which > started out at $.99 and has already been bid up several times so that the > bid now stands at $152.50. The time remaining until the auction ends is 1 > day, 18hours. As far as I'm concerned, the most important fact follows. > Everyone knows that the real action as far as bidding is concerned takes > place in the last 30 seconds of the auction. Right? So, let's say that the > bidding keeps rising between now and the end of the countdown. Who knows > how high it will have gotten to by the time you have 30 seconds left. I can > only assume from past experience that it will be higher than the present > $152.50. Then, during that last 30 seconds of the auction things will > really begin to pop. In the end, your "Very Last", "Rare" meteorite will > have sold for what? I think a whole bunch more than $.99. Right? So, just > saying that you put up lunar meteorites for $.99 is really meaningless. You > know that the bidding will drive the price up into the stratosphere. > The same thing can be said for your NWA 5000 (a spectacular meteorite, by > the way). It started at $.99, but its already up to $331.00. The time > remaining until the end of that auction is 1 day, 17 hours. Again, my guess > is that it will continue to rise in price over the next day or so, reach the > 30 second mark and then once again, its price will explode. So, once again, > the $.99 beginning price is meaningless. > As I said earlier, I'm just a small time collector. Once, I discussed the > way the bidding process works here on the List about 2 years ago, and I had > a dealer at that time write to me and give me a rather uncharitable lecture. > In his emails to me, he didn't address me as "Greg". No, no, he addressed > me as "Mr. Tight Ass". He said that I should be happy to bid multiple times > and very high so that he and other dealers would be able to stay in > business. Personally, I found his "reasoning" to be a bit disingenuous. > When he goes into to buy a car, and the dealer says, this car cost $30,000, > I wonder if he would say to the dealer, "No, no, here let me help you out. > I wouldn't want you to go out of business, so I'm going to give you $80,000 > for the car." Yeah, right! > I've observed a few things in my time perusing this List over the past > couple of years. One of the more important things is that there are some > dealers who seem to give a more fair deal than others. > I'm not going to put you into a category, one way or the other. I'll just > say that I have found some dealers who have treated me with respect (a rare > treat, indeed), and have also priced their goods in such a way that I was > able to buy a few nice pieces. > For what it's worth, that's the way I see things here. > > Regards, > Greg Lindh > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Adam Hupe" > To: "Adam" > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 3:55 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale > > > > How is this gouging people, over a $1,000.00 worth of lunar material started > at just 99 cents? This material has been running long before this > conversation started. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140320408963 > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200341681245 > > > I have several auctions running, all started at just 99 cents. Let the buyer > decide who is or is not gouging as this is a ridiculous statement when it > comes to me and has no merit whatsoever. > > Best Regards, > > Adam > > > > --- On Sun, 5/17/09, GREG LINDH wrote: > > > From: GREG LINDH > >
