Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery?????
Hello Steve, Thank you for the post on projectiles, propelling methods, velocities and their observable effects. Based on my experience with things that go "boom" whilst in the US ARMY; where people I didn't know tried to incapacitate me with fast moving, heavy and often explosive objects and where I inspected holes in various materials including, but not limited to, kevlar, steel, glass, rubber, building materials and human beings, I feel I can contest some of your assumptions. All objects, no matter what they are composed of, traveling above the speed of sound, will make an over pressure that can be detected by a person with normal hearing depending on distance, density and direction. The three "D's" we are taught in BSC (basic combat training). Remember the axiom, "You never hear the one that hits you"? All military rifle, pistol and machine gun rounds, of any caliber, exceed the speed of sound and create an audible "snap". YouTube has dozens of fire fights where you can listen. Some civilian rifle and pistol rounds, such as a .22 Long, or Short, and special application ammunition, are sub-sonic. Many crew served, vehicle and aircraft delivered weapons such as artillery, anti-armor and area supression (SKEET and CANISTER) projectiles, are super-sonic in flight, or become so on contact with the target due to secondary charges. I've looked at the photos and there is enough physical evidence (the damaged roof and attendant materials) for anyone with basic EOD skills to determine what was the outer composition of the object that made the defect, the weight, size and speed of the culprit, and from what direction did it arrive. All the "no eyes on" witness statements are not reliable. They have a "scene" and that's where the investigation, if it hasn't already, should be conducted. The apparent fact that none of the impactor, except trace evidence on the damaged materials, has been found at the scene, makes the whole incident suspect. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Steve Dunklee >Sent: Jan 6, 2010 5:00 AM >To: meteoritecentral , Gary Chase > >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a >Mystery? > >gee boing bomb is not going to make a loud boom heard 3 blocks away. a friend >of mine has a 3 inch cannon but the last time he shot it it disrupted cell >phone service, almost caused several auto accidents and resulted in having his >house surrounded by the local police who asked " Mr Boyde could you please >come out of your house?" his projestile was a wad of wet newspapers. > Chris Petersons explaination while having some merrit is not supported by > scientific fact. sonic booms travel at the speed of sound and the time it > takes the boom to reach you depends on your distance from the event, and a > lot of other factors, like cannon balls traveling at over the speed of sound > under 4 inches make no sonic boom. just a kind of whizzing whooshing sound. > and smaller objects like bullets only make a buzzing sound like a bee even at > 4 times the speed of sound. > a meteorite falling over Colorado on the plane of the ecliptic at 11:35 pm > would have been a near verticle fall only taking about 4 to 5 seconds from > the time it entered earths atmosphere till it impacted with the ground. or > exploded in the air. the shock wave in front of it would have created a > vacume in its tail which may have allowed a 3 inch stone or iron to be > cradled in an envelope trailing the main mass which was destroyed. in the > same way that unburned gunpowder is found on the victims of gunshots at > bullet velocities of 3k fps or more. the speed of sound you must know is only > about 750 fps and depends on air pressure, humidity, temp, and the size of > the object. > there was an f15 eagle crashed near my house several years ago. a sonic > boom traveling 3 minutes at the speed of sound by Mr Petersons reasoning at > close to 7 seconds a mile should be heard around 25 miles away. there has to > my knowlege never been heard a boom more than 9 miles away because the curve > of the earth doesnt allow it to reach the ground. > are there any volunteers from the list that want to sit on an artillary > range and listen for the sonic boom of an incomming 144mm faster than sound > shell? i hope not because they dont make one! >cheers >Steve > >--- On Tue, 1/5/10, Gary Chase wrote: > >> From: Gary Chase >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a >> Mystery????? >> To: "meteoritecentral" >> Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 12:10 PM >> >> Good Call. Why waste your time on something that is &
Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery?????
Dear Steve and List, Here is a photo of Robert Ward with section of tile with a hole. http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2010/01/6jan2010-meteormeteorite-news.html Holey ceiling tiles! Springs bar still wonders what hit it Denver Post By The Gazette Meteorite hunter Robert Ward holds a ceiling tile from the Red Rock Lounge. (Mark Reis, The Gazette ) COLORADO SPRINGS — Mystery still ... Best, Dirk Ross...Tokyo --- On Wed, 1/6/10, Steve Dunklee wrote: > From: Steve Dunklee > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a > Mystery? > To: "meteoritecentral" , "Gary Chase" > > Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 7:00 PM > gee boing bomb is not going to make a > loud boom heard 3 blocks away. a friend of mine has a 3 inch > cannon but the last time he shot it it disrupted cell > phone service, almost caused several auto accidents and > resulted in having his house surrounded by the local police > who asked " Mr Boyde could you please come out of your > house?" his projestile was a wad of wet newspapers. > Chris Petersons explaination while having some > merrit is not supported by scientific fact. sonic booms > travel at the speed of sound and the time it takes the boom > to reach you depends on your distance from the event, and a > lot of other factors, like cannon balls traveling at over > the speed of sound under 4 inches make no sonic boom. just a > kind of whizzing whooshing sound. and smaller objects like > bullets only make a buzzing sound like a bee even at 4 times > the speed of sound. > a meteorite falling over Colorado on the plane of > the ecliptic at 11:35 pm would have been a near verticle > fall only taking about 4 to 5 seconds from the time it > entered earths atmosphere till it impacted with the ground. > or exploded in the air. the shock wave in front of it would > have created a vacume in its tail which may have allowed a 3 > inch stone or iron to be cradled in an envelope trailing the > main mass which was destroyed. in the same way that unburned > gunpowder is found on the victims of gunshots at bullet > velocities of 3k fps or more. the speed of sound you must > know is only about 750 fps and depends on air pressure, > humidity, temp, and the size of the object. > there was an f15 eagle crashed near my > house several years ago. a sonic boom traveling 3 minutes at > the speed of sound by Mr Petersons reasoning at close > to 7 seconds a mile should be heard around 25 miles away. > there has to my knowlege never been heard a boom more than 9 > miles away because the curve of the earth doesnt allow it to > reach the ground. > are there any volunteers from the list that want to > sit on an artillary range and listen for the sonic boom of > an incomming 144mm faster than sound shell? i hope not > because they dont make one! > cheers > Steve > > --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Gary Chase > wrote: > > > From: Gary Chase > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge > Roof Still a Mystery? > > To: "meteoritecentral" > > Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 12:10 PM > > > > Good Call. Why waste your time on something that is > > not a sure thing. > > > > Gary > > > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock > Lounge > > Roof Still a Mystery? > > > To: garych...@live.com; > > meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; > > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > From: m...@mhmeteorites.com > > > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 16:52:14 + > > > > > > Didn't seem worth is to me. > > > ---------- > > > Matt Morgan > > > Mile High Meteorites > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com > > > P.O. Box 151293 > > > Lakewood, CO 80215 USA > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Gary Chase > > > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 08:23:13 > > > To: meteoritecentral > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock > Lounge > > Roof Still a Mystery > > > ? > > > > > > > > > "Robert Ward drove through the night from Arizona > to > > investigate"? > > > > > > I don't understand. Aren't there meteorite > dealers and > > collectors closer to the sight to check it out? Anne? > Matt? > > > > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > >> From: bcmeteori...@gmail.com > > >> To: mpg4...@gmail.com; > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > >> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 06:39:00 -0700 > > >> Subject: R
Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery?????
gee boing bomb is not going to make a loud boom heard 3 blocks away. a friend of mine has a 3 inch cannon but the last time he shot it it disrupted cell phone service, almost caused several auto accidents and resulted in having his house surrounded by the local police who asked " Mr Boyde could you please come out of your house?" his projestile was a wad of wet newspapers. Chris Petersons explaination while having some merrit is not supported by scientific fact. sonic booms travel at the speed of sound and the time it takes the boom to reach you depends on your distance from the event, and a lot of other factors, like cannon balls traveling at over the speed of sound under 4 inches make no sonic boom. just a kind of whizzing whooshing sound. and smaller objects like bullets only make a buzzing sound like a bee even at 4 times the speed of sound. a meteorite falling over Colorado on the plane of the ecliptic at 11:35 pm would have been a near verticle fall only taking about 4 to 5 seconds from the time it entered earths atmosphere till it impacted with the ground. or exploded in the air. the shock wave in front of it would have created a vacume in its tail which may have allowed a 3 inch stone or iron to be cradled in an envelope trailing the main mass which was destroyed. in the same way that unburned gunpowder is found on the victims of gunshots at bullet velocities of 3k fps or more. the speed of sound you must know is only about 750 fps and depends on air pressure, humidity, temp, and the size of the object. there was an f15 eagle crashed near my house several years ago. a sonic boom traveling 3 minutes at the speed of sound by Mr Petersons reasoning at close to 7 seconds a mile should be heard around 25 miles away. there has to my knowlege never been heard a boom more than 9 miles away because the curve of the earth doesnt allow it to reach the ground. are there any volunteers from the list that want to sit on an artillary range and listen for the sonic boom of an incomming 144mm faster than sound shell? i hope not because they dont make one! cheers Steve --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Gary Chase wrote: > From: Gary Chase > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a > Mystery? > To: "meteoritecentral" > Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 12:10 PM > > Good Call. Why waste your time on something that is > not a sure thing. > > Gary > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge > Roof Still a Mystery? > > To: garych...@live.com; > meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > From: m...@mhmeteorites.com > > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 16:52:14 + > > > > Didn't seem worth is to me. > > -- > > Matt Morgan > > Mile High Meteorites > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com > > P.O. Box 151293 > > Lakewood, CO 80215 USA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gary Chase > > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 08:23:13 > > To: meteoritecentral > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge > Roof Still a Mystery > > ? > > > > > > "Robert Ward drove through the night from Arizona to > investigate"? > > > > I don't understand. Aren't there meteorite dealers and > collectors closer to the sight to check it out? Anne? Matt? > > > > > > Gary > > > > > >> From: bcmeteori...@gmail.com > >> To: mpg4...@gmail.com; > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 06:39:00 -0700 > >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock > Lounge Roof Still a Mystery > >> > >> This link is for the article on the front page of > the local Colorado Springs > >> paper "The Gazette" this morning with picture of > Robert Ward holding the ceiling tile with the > >> "mystery" hole in it. > >> > >> http://www.gazette.com/articles/guy-91739-bar-heard.html > >> > >> Bob Falls > >> colorado Springs, CO > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > >> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on > Behalf Of Michael > >> Groetz > >> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 5:46 AM > >> To: Meteorite List > >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge > Roof Still a Mystery > >> > >> > >> http://www.krdo.com/Global/story.asp?S=11755241 > >> > >> Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery > >> > >> By: Stacey Kaiser > >> s.kai...@krdotv.com > >&g
Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery?????
Jake, List, I'd be careful about calling someone an armchair hunter. I made that mistake once... ;) LOL We all know how that turned out. Yes I am very aware of the time meteorite hunters like Robert spend chasing fireballs and other possible meteorite falls. In addition There are MANY other hunters and many friends of mine that do take the time to get out there and hunt. Mike Miller, and Ruben Garcia are perfect examples. They've spent thousands and thousands of hours in the field and combined have found thousands of meteorites yet it's still rare to find one and not everyone has the luxury to get out there and hunt. Many people say mistakenly that "You got lucky!" or "You're so lucky to have found that meteorite." I'm sure many of you know that it isn't luck! Geoff Notkin and Steve Arnold are fortunate enough to get paid to do it, but they spent years hunting meteorites and pounding the ground to get where they are now. Mike Farmer, Greg and Adam Hupe, Sonny Clary, Jim Kriegh, Jim Smaller, and countless other professional meteorite hunters have spent combined probably tens of thousands of hours pounding the ground looking for meteorites. If you were to take the percentages of actual successful trips and combine them all into a statistic it would probably amount to less than 5% success rate when compared to all the time spent in the field. I think everyone on this list understands and would agree that meteorites are hard to find and that not everyone has the luxury of time, or money to gt out there and hunt even though they may really want to and would give just about anything to do it. Even though someone may be willing the may not be able due to certain family and financial responsibilities. Regards, Eric On 1/5/2010 12:11 PM, Jake Wayne wrote: Hi Eric. I gather you keep up on these types of things considering the amount of time and effort you have put into your great websites. Do you have any idea of the success rate of a hunter like Robert who will go just about anywhere to chase down a lead vs people who actually wait until a piece has been found or confirmed? I would imagine that Robert's success rate would be low. But at least he could be proud to know that he was willing to do the leg work and not sit on the sofa waiting for someone to do it for him. Good Hunting to all willing to roll the dice. Jake --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Meteorites USA wrote: From: Meteorites USA Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery? To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 7:15 PM Hi Gary, Matt, Maybe you guys are simply being facetious or or skeptical. Maybe Matt, you really didn't feel like it was worth it. But, I believe it is worth it simply because it could have be a meteorite! And though up to this point though none have been found to prove that case, the evidence still suggests it could be. I know if I could have afforded it I would go investigate. Did you see the photos? Read the articles, see the news report? Either A) the bar is pulling a big hoax , or perhaps hiding an embarrassing flub, and knocked the hole in the roof an tile themselves, or B) a small object with a solid mass crashed through the roof and ceiling tile. Has anyone thought to ask the owners or bartender on duty that night for a list of people that where there in the bar during the even. Locals know locals and would probably be able to compile a list of people fairly easily. Perhaps a meteorite did fall through the roof and only one person saw it and took the object from the scene? Just hopeful thinking yes, but it's a possibility. http://www.gazette.com/articles/guy-91739-bar-heard.html Something fell through the roof. Where is it? Some people just don't have the gumption to get in the car and drive half way across the country for a "possible" meteorite. If you've ever met Robert you'll know right away he's the kind of hunter that does! He's got that air about him that just says "I'll go anywhere on earth to find a meteorite." Way to go Robert! Regards, Eric On 1/5/2010 10:10 AM, Gary Chase wrote: Good Call. Why waste your time on something that is not a sure thing. Gary Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery? To:garych...@live.com;meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com From:m...@mhmeteorites.com Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 16:52:14 + > Didn't seem worth is to me. -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.
Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery?????
No need to go down to Colorado Springs. Bob Falls lives right there. He can take care of things. He does not need either Matt or me. He will know a meteorite when he sees one. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 1/5/2010 10:02:25 AM Mountain Standard Time, m...@mhmeteorites.com writes: Didn't seem worth is to me. -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA -Original Message- From: Gary Chase Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 08:23:13 To: meteoritecentral Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery ? "Robert Ward drove through the night from Arizona to investigate"? I don't understand. Aren't there meteorite dealers and collectors closer to the sight to check it out? Anne? Matt? Gary > From: bcmeteori...@gmail.com > To: mpg4...@gmail.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 06:39:00 -0700 > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery > > This link is for the article on the front page of the local Colorado Springs > paper "The Gazette" this morning with picture of Robert Ward holding the ceiling tile with the > "mystery" hole in it. > > http://www.gazette.com/articles/guy-91739-bar-heard.html > > Bob Falls > colorado Springs, CO > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Eric. I gather you keep up on these types of things considering the amount of time and effort you have put into your great websites. Do you have any idea of the success rate of a hunter like Robert who will go just about anywhere to chase down a lead vs people who actually wait until a piece has been found or confirmed? I would imagine that Robert's success rate would be low. But at least he could be proud to know that he was willing to do the leg work and not sit on the sofa waiting for someone to do it for him. Good Hunting to all willing to roll the dice. Jake --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Meteorites USA wrote: > From: Meteorites USA > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a > Mystery? > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 7:15 PM > Hi Gary, Matt, > > Maybe you guys are simply being facetious or or skeptical. > Maybe Matt, you really didn't feel like it was worth it. > But, I believe it is worth it simply because it could have > be a meteorite! And though up to this point though none have > been found to prove that case, the evidence still suggests > it could be. I know if I could have afforded it I would go > investigate. > > Did you see the photos? Read the articles, see the news > report? Either A) the bar is pulling a big hoax , or perhaps > hiding an embarrassing flub, and knocked the hole in the > roof an tile themselves, or B) a small object with a solid > mass crashed through the roof and ceiling tile. > > Has anyone thought to ask the owners or bartender on duty > that night for a list of people that where there in the bar > during the even. Locals know locals and would probably be > able to compile a list of people fairly easily. Perhaps a > meteorite did fall through the roof and only one person saw > it and took the object from the scene? Just hopeful thinking > yes, but it's a possibility. > > http://www.gazette.com/articles/guy-91739-bar-heard.html > > Something fell through the roof. Where is it? > > Some people just don't have the gumption to get in the car > and drive half way across the country for a "possible" > meteorite. > > If you've ever met Robert you'll know right away he's the > kind of hunter that does! He's got that air about him that > just says "I'll go anywhere on earth to find a meteorite." > > Way to go Robert! > > Regards, > Eric > > > > On 1/5/2010 10:10 AM, Gary Chase wrote: > > Good Call. Why waste your time on something that > is not a sure thing. > > > > Gary > > > > > >> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in > Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery? > >> > > >> >To:garych...@live.com;meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >> > From:m...@mhmeteorites.com > >> > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 16:52:14 + > >> > > Didn't seem worth is to me. > >> > -- > >> > Matt Morgan > >> > Mile High Meteorites > >> > http://www.mhmeteorites.com > >> > P.O. Box 151293 > >> > Lakewood, CO 80215 USA > >> > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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The sinks on airliners (NOT the toilets) drain directly out of the aircraft. While it is possible for water to come from aircraft it is unlikely to make it to the surface like rain. The toilets use a liquid that is affectionately called "blue juice" and if you got hit with that, it would have left obvious blue stains on the vehicle. -- Richard Kowalski http://fullmoonphotography.net IMCA #1081 --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Adam Hupe wrote: > From: Adam Hupe > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a > Mystery? > To: "Adam" > Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 12:28 PM > I agree that any hole in a roof is > worth checking out. > > I have heard of rocks stuck in aircraft tires letting loose > when they retract their landing gear. This is just one of > many ways an object can come out of the sky. > > We had a weird incident returning from the new years > celebration in Las Vegas yesterday. We were driving home in > Zann's Spyder roadster and were drenched with what I hope > was water. Luckily we had the convertible top up as > the weather was good enough to have it down. The > interesting thing was that there was not a cloud in the sky > and we were in the middle of the desert on our way back to > Laughlin. > > Some things just can't be explained. > > Best Regards, > > Adam > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I agree that any hole in a roof is worth checking out. I have heard of rocks stuck in aircraft tires letting loose when they retract their landing gear. This is just one of many ways an object can come out of the sky. We had a weird incident returning from the new years celebration in Las Vegas yesterday. We were driving home in Zann's Spyder roadster and were drenched with what I hope was water. Luckily we had the convertible top up as the weather was good enough to have it down. The interesting thing was that there was not a cloud in the sky and we were in the middle of the desert on our way back to Laughlin. Some things just can't be explained. Best Regards, Adam __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Gary, Matt, Maybe you guys are simply being facetious or or skeptical. Maybe Matt, you really didn't feel like it was worth it. But, I believe it is worth it simply because it could have be a meteorite! And though up to this point though none have been found to prove that case, the evidence still suggests it could be. I know if I could have afforded it I would go investigate. Did you see the photos? Read the articles, see the news report? Either A) the bar is pulling a big hoax , or perhaps hiding an embarrassing flub, and knocked the hole in the roof an tile themselves, or B) a small object with a solid mass crashed through the roof and ceiling tile. Has anyone thought to ask the owners or bartender on duty that night for a list of people that where there in the bar during the even. Locals know locals and would probably be able to compile a list of people fairly easily. Perhaps a meteorite did fall through the roof and only one person saw it and took the object from the scene? Just hopeful thinking yes, but it's a possibility. http://www.gazette.com/articles/guy-91739-bar-heard.html Something fell through the roof. Where is it? Some people just don't have the gumption to get in the car and drive half way across the country for a "possible" meteorite. If you've ever met Robert you'll know right away he's the kind of hunter that does! He's got that air about him that just says "I'll go anywhere on earth to find a meteorite." Way to go Robert! Regards, Eric On 1/5/2010 10:10 AM, Gary Chase wrote: Good Call. Why waste your time on something that is not a sure thing. Gary > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery? > To:garych...@live.com;meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > From:m...@mhmeteorites.com > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 16:52:14 + > > Didn't seem worth is to me. > -- > Matt Morgan > Mile High Meteorites > http://www.mhmeteorites.com > P.O. Box 151293 > Lakewood, CO 80215 USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Good Call. Why waste your time on something that is not a sure thing. Gary > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a > Mystery? > To: garych...@live.com; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > From: m...@mhmeteorites.com > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 16:52:14 + > > Didn't seem worth is to me. > -- > Matt Morgan > Mile High Meteorites > http://www.mhmeteorites.com > P.O. Box 151293 > Lakewood, CO 80215 USA > > -Original Message- > From: Gary Chase > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 08:23:13 > To: meteoritecentral > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery > ? > > > "Robert Ward drove through the night from Arizona to investigate"? > > I don't understand. Aren't there meteorite dealers and collectors closer to > the sight to check it out? Anne? Matt? > > > Gary > > >> From: bcmeteori...@gmail.com >> To: mpg4...@gmail.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 06:39:00 -0700 >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery >> >> This link is for the article on the front page of the local Colorado Springs >> paper "The Gazette" this morning with picture of Robert Ward holding the >> ceiling tile with the >> "mystery" hole in it. >> >> http://www.gazette.com/articles/guy-91739-bar-heard.html >> >> Bob Falls >> colorado Springs, CO >> >> -Original Message- >> From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com >> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on Behalf Of Michael >> Groetz >> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 5:46 AM >> To: Meteorite List >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery >> >> >> http://www.krdo.com/Global/story.asp?S=11755241 >> >> Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery >> >> By: Stacey Kaiser >> s.kai...@krdotv.com >> Follow me on Twitter at www.twitter.com/staceykaiser >> >> COLORADO SPRINGS - Was it lightning, some sort of space rock, or ice >> from a plane? Fire investigators cannot rule anything out as the >> cause of a hole in the roof of Red Rock Lounge at 31st and Colorado >> Avenue in Colorado Springs. >> >> "I saw some insulation sitting on the table and I looked up and >> there's a hole in my ceiling," said Red Rock Lounge owner Karol >> Sandvig. Sandvig noticed the hole when she first walked into her bar, >> then she saw a note from her bartender. "Karol, I had to call the >> cops because something came through the roof and there was a loud >> boom," said a note from Bartender Tammy Newland. >> >> Firefighters got the call at 11:30pm Wednesday. They told Newland the >> boom was heard from their station a few streets away. "It scared >> everybody. Everybody was off their seats pretty quick. I don't think >> I've seen some of the people in here move that quick," said Newland. >> >> But the big question is, what caused this massive boom and 3-inch hole >> in the ceiling? "We tried to rule out things such as lightning, >> something falling from the sky like a piece of space rock like a small >> meteorite and we weren't able to rule out anything," said Colorado >> Springs Fire Department Battalion Chief Steven Dubay. >> >> STORMTRACKER 13 Chief Meteorologist Matt Meister says he was at the >> station until about 1:00AM and did not see any lightning. It could be >> a space rock, but investigators have seen no sign of a rock. And the >> hole is too big to be from a bullet. >> >> Sandvig says the hole in her ceiling will not ruin their New Year's >> Eve celebration. The landlord said he will be out to fix the hole. >> __ >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> __ >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > _ > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Didn't seem worth is to me. -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA -Original Message- From: Gary Chase Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 08:23:13 To: meteoritecentral Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery ? "Robert Ward drove through the night from Arizona to investigate"? I don't understand. Aren't there meteorite dealers and collectors closer to the sight to check it out? Anne? Matt? Gary > From: bcmeteori...@gmail.com > To: mpg4...@gmail.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 06:39:00 -0700 > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery > > This link is for the article on the front page of the local Colorado Springs > paper "The Gazette" this morning with picture of Robert Ward holding the > ceiling tile with the > "mystery" hole in it. > > http://www.gazette.com/articles/guy-91739-bar-heard.html > > Bob Falls > colorado Springs, CO > > -Original Message- > From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on Behalf Of Michael > Groetz > Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 5:46 AM > To: Meteorite List > Subject: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery > > > http://www.krdo.com/Global/story.asp?S=11755241 > > Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery > > By: Stacey Kaiser > s.kai...@krdotv.com > Follow me on Twitter at www.twitter.com/staceykaiser > > COLORADO SPRINGS - Was it lightning, some sort of space rock, or ice > from a plane? Fire investigators cannot rule anything out as the > cause of a hole in the roof of Red Rock Lounge at 31st and Colorado > Avenue in Colorado Springs. > > "I saw some insulation sitting on the table and I looked up and > there's a hole in my ceiling," said Red Rock Lounge owner Karol > Sandvig. Sandvig noticed the hole when she first walked into her bar, > then she saw a note from her bartender. "Karol, I had to call the > cops because something came through the roof and there was a loud > boom," said a note from Bartender Tammy Newland. > > Firefighters got the call at 11:30pm Wednesday. They told Newland the > boom was heard from their station a few streets away. "It scared > everybody. Everybody was off their seats pretty quick. I don't think > I've seen some of the people in here move that quick," said Newland. > > But the big question is, what caused this massive boom and 3-inch hole > in the ceiling? "We tried to rule out things such as lightning, > something falling from the sky like a piece of space rock like a small > meteorite and we weren't able to rule out anything," said Colorado > Springs Fire Department Battalion Chief Steven Dubay. > > STORMTRACKER 13 Chief Meteorologist Matt Meister says he was at the > station until about 1:00AM and did not see any lightning. It could be > a space rock, but investigators have seen no sign of a rock. And the > hole is too big to be from a bullet. > > Sandvig says the hole in her ceiling will not ruin their New Year's > Eve celebration. The landlord said he will be out to fix the hole. > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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"Robert Ward drove through the night from Arizona to investigate"? I don't understand. Aren't there meteorite dealers and collectors closer to the sight to check it out? Anne? Matt? Gary > From: bcmeteori...@gmail.com > To: mpg4...@gmail.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 06:39:00 -0700 > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery > > This link is for the article on the front page of the local Colorado Springs > paper "The Gazette" this morning with picture of Robert Ward holding the > ceiling tile with the > "mystery" hole in it. > > http://www.gazette.com/articles/guy-91739-bar-heard.html > > Bob Falls > colorado Springs, CO > > -Original Message- > From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on Behalf Of Michael > Groetz > Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 5:46 AM > To: Meteorite List > Subject: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery > > > http://www.krdo.com/Global/story.asp?S=11755241 > > Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery > > By: Stacey Kaiser > s.kai...@krdotv.com > Follow me on Twitter at www.twitter.com/staceykaiser > > COLORADO SPRINGS - Was it lightning, some sort of space rock, or ice > from a plane? Fire investigators cannot rule anything out as the > cause of a hole in the roof of Red Rock Lounge at 31st and Colorado > Avenue in Colorado Springs. > > "I saw some insulation sitting on the table and I looked up and > there's a hole in my ceiling," said Red Rock Lounge owner Karol > Sandvig. Sandvig noticed the hole when she first walked into her bar, > then she saw a note from her bartender. "Karol, I had to call the > cops because something came through the roof and there was a loud > boom," said a note from Bartender Tammy Newland. > > Firefighters got the call at 11:30pm Wednesday. They told Newland the > boom was heard from their station a few streets away. "It scared > everybody. Everybody was off their seats pretty quick. I don't think > I've seen some of the people in here move that quick," said Newland. > > But the big question is, what caused this massive boom and 3-inch hole > in the ceiling? "We tried to rule out things such as lightning, > something falling from the sky like a piece of space rock like a small > meteorite and we weren't able to rule out anything," said Colorado > Springs Fire Department Battalion Chief Steven Dubay. > > STORMTRACKER 13 Chief Meteorologist Matt Meister says he was at the > station until about 1:00AM and did not see any lightning. It could be > a space rock, but investigators have seen no sign of a rock. And the > hole is too big to be from a bullet. > > Sandvig says the hole in her ceiling will not ruin their New Year's > Eve celebration. The landlord said he will be out to fix the hole. > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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This link is for the article on the front page of the local Colorado Springs paper "The Gazette" this morning with picture of Robert Ward holding the ceiling tile with the "mystery" hole in it. http://www.gazette.com/articles/guy-91739-bar-heard.html Bob Falls colorado Springs, CO -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on Behalf Of Michael Groetz Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 5:46 AM To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery http://www.krdo.com/Global/story.asp?S=11755241 Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery By: Stacey Kaiser s.kai...@krdotv.com Follow me on Twitter at www.twitter.com/staceykaiser COLORADO SPRINGS - Was it lightning, some sort of space rock, or ice from a plane? Fire investigators cannot rule anything out as the cause of a hole in the roof of Red Rock Lounge at 31st and Colorado Avenue in Colorado Springs. "I saw some insulation sitting on the table and I looked up and there's a hole in my ceiling," said Red Rock Lounge owner Karol Sandvig. Sandvig noticed the hole when she first walked into her bar, then she saw a note from her bartender. "Karol, I had to call the cops because something came through the roof and there was a loud boom," said a note from Bartender Tammy Newland. Firefighters got the call at 11:30pm Wednesday. They told Newland the boom was heard from their station a few streets away. "It scared everybody. Everybody was off their seats pretty quick. I don't think I've seen some of the people in here move that quick," said Newland. But the big question is, what caused this massive boom and 3-inch hole in the ceiling? "We tried to rule out things such as lightning, something falling from the sky like a piece of space rock like a small meteorite and we weren't able to rule out anything," said Colorado Springs Fire Department Battalion Chief Steven Dubay. STORMTRACKER 13 Chief Meteorologist Matt Meister says he was at the station until about 1:00AM and did not see any lightning. It could be a space rock, but investigators have seen no sign of a rock. And the hole is too big to be from a bullet. Sandvig says the hole in her ceiling will not ruin their New Year's Eve celebration. The landlord said he will be out to fix the hole. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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http://www.krdo.com/Global/story.asp?S=11755241 Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery By: Stacey Kaiser s.kai...@krdotv.com Follow me on Twitter at www.twitter.com/staceykaiser COLORADO SPRINGS - Was it lightning, some sort of space rock, or ice from a plane? Fire investigators cannot rule anything out as the cause of a hole in the roof of Red Rock Lounge at 31st and Colorado Avenue in Colorado Springs. "I saw some insulation sitting on the table and I looked up and there's a hole in my ceiling," said Red Rock Lounge owner Karol Sandvig. Sandvig noticed the hole when she first walked into her bar, then she saw a note from her bartender. "Karol, I had to call the cops because something came through the roof and there was a loud boom," said a note from Bartender Tammy Newland. Firefighters got the call at 11:30pm Wednesday. They told Newland the boom was heard from their station a few streets away. "It scared everybody. Everybody was off their seats pretty quick. I don't think I've seen some of the people in here move that quick," said Newland. But the big question is, what caused this massive boom and 3-inch hole in the ceiling? "We tried to rule out things such as lightning, something falling from the sky like a piece of space rock like a small meteorite and we weren't able to rule out anything," said Colorado Springs Fire Department Battalion Chief Steven Dubay. STORMTRACKER 13 Chief Meteorologist Matt Meister says he was at the station until about 1:00AM and did not see any lightning. It could be a space rock, but investigators have seen no sign of a rock. And the hole is too big to be from a bullet. Sandvig says the hole in her ceiling will not ruin their New Year's Eve celebration. The landlord said he will be out to fix the hole. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Splish splash > From: gmh...@htn.net > To: parkforest...@hotmail.com; magellon@gmail.com > CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery > Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 23:34:31 -0500 > > Hello Bill, > > Not sure what you mean here, but you should go to the doctor so if you > caught the "itch" from that one! > > Greg > > > - Original Message - > From: "bill kies" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 11:28 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery > > > > Sounds like a case for the Hupes. Do the women have bad > teeth? > Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 > 20:45:48 -0500> From: magellon@gmail.com> To: countde...@earthlink.net> > CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole > in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery>> Hmmm. Loud boom, prior to New > Years. Explosives?>> On 1/3/10, countde...@earthlink.net wrote:>> Actually, > it was an icy frag from a comet, and it landed in a patron's>> double Scotch > and water, and he drank it, and...and ...and then it was>> gone. :o)>>>> > Guido>>>> -----Original Message->>>From: Steve Dunklee>>>Sent: Jan 3, > 2010 7:40 PM>>>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Greg Stanley>>> , > ensorama...@ntlworld.com>>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock > Lounge Roof Still a Mystery>>>>>>How about the center pockets of the pool > table? or one of the customer>>> pockets lol!>>>Cheers>>>Steve>>>>>>--- On > Sun, 1/3/10, ensorama...@ntlworld.com>>> wrote:>>>>>>> From: > ensorama...@ntlworld.com>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock > Lounge Roof Still a>>>> Mystery>>>> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, > "Greg Stanley">>>>>>>> Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 6:05 PM>>>> > Quicksomeone check behind the>>>> Jukebox!!!>>>>>>>> Greg > Stanley>>>> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a > Mystery>>>>>>>>>> Greg S.>>>>>>>>>> > http://www.krdo.com/Global/story.asp?S=11755241>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By: > Stacey Kaiser>>>>> s.kai...@krdotv.com>>>>> Follow me on Twitter at > www.twitter.com/staceykaiser>>>>>>>>>> COLORADO SPRINGS - Was it lightning, > some sort of>>>> space rock, or ice from a plane? Fire investigators > cannot>>>> rule anything out as the cause of a hole in the roof of Red>>>> > Rock Lounge at 31st and Colorado Avenue in Colorado Springs.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > "I saw some insulation sitting on the table and I>>>> looked up and there's > a hole in my ceiling," said Red Rock>>>> Lounge owner Karol Sandvig. Sandvig > noticed the hole when>>>> she first walked into her bar, then she saw a note > from her>>>> bartender. "Karol, I had to call the cops because>>>> something > came through the roof and there was a loud boom,">>>> said a note from > Bartender Tammy Newland.>>>>>>>>>> Firefighters got the call at 11:30pm > Wednesday. They>>>> told Newland the boom was heard from their station a > few>>>> streets away. "It scared everybody. Everybody was off>>>> their > seats pretty quick. I don't think I've seen some of>>>> the people in here > move that quick," said Newland.>>>>>>>>>> But the big question is, what > caused this massive boom>>>> and 3-inch hole in the ceiling? "We tried to > rule out>>>> things such as lightning, something falling from the sky>>>> > like a piece of space rock like a small meteorite and we>>>> weren't able to > rule out anything," said Colorado Springs>>>> Fire Department Battalion > Chief Steven Dubay.>>>>>>>>>> STORMTRACKER 13 Chief Meteorologist Matt > Meister says>>>> he was at the station until about 1:00AM and did not see > any>
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Hello Bill, Not sure what you mean here, but you should go to the doctor so if you caught the "itch" from that one! Greg - Original Message - From: "bill kies" To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery Sounds like a case for the Hupes. Do the women have bad teeth? > Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 20:45:48 -0500> From: magellon@gmail.com> To: countde...@earthlink.net> CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery>> Hmmm. Loud boom, prior to New Years. Explosives?>> On 1/3/10, countde...@earthlink.net wrote:>> Actually, it was an icy frag from a comet, and it landed in a patron's>> double Scotch and water, and he drank it, and...and ...and then it was>> gone. :o)>>>> Guido>>>> -Original Message->>>From: Steve Dunklee>>>Sent: Jan 3, 2010 7:40 PM>>>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Greg Stanley>>> , ensorama...@ntlworld.com>>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery>>>>>>How about the center pockets of the pool table? or one of the customer>>> pockets lol!>>>Cheers>>>Steve>>>>>>--- On Sun, 1/3/10, ensorama...@ntlworld.com>>> wrote:>>>>>>> From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a>>>> Mystery>>>> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, "Greg Stanley">>>>>>>> Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 6:05 PM>>>> Quicksomeone check behind the>>>> Jukebox!!!>>>>>>>> Greg Stanley>>>> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery>>>>>>>>>> Greg S.>>>>>>>>>> http://www.krdo.com/Global/story.asp?S=11755241>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By: Stacey Kaiser>>>>> s.kai...@krdotv.com>>>>> Follow me on Twitter at www.twitter.com/staceykaiser>>>>>>>>>> COLORADO SPRINGS - Was it lightning, some sort of>>>> space rock, or ice from a plane? Fire investigators cannot>>>> rule anything out as the cause of a hole in the roof of Red>>>> Rock Lounge at 31st and Colorado Avenue in Colorado Springs.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I saw some insulation sitting on the table and I>>>> looked up and there's a hole in my ceiling," said Red Rock>>>> Lounge owner Karol Sandvig. Sandvig noticed the hole when>>>> she first walked into her bar, then she saw a note from her>>>> bartender. "Karol, I had to call the cops because>>>> something came through the roof and there was a loud boom,">>>> said a note from Bartender Tammy Newland.>>>>>>>>>> Firefighters got the call at 11:30pm Wednesday. They>>>> told Newland the boom was heard from their station a few>>>> streets away. "It scared everybody. Everybody was off>>>> their seats pretty quick. I don't think I've seen some of>>>> the people in here move that quick," said Newland.>>>>>>>>>> But the big question is, what caused this massive boom>>>> and 3-inch hole in the ceiling? "We tried to rule out>>>> things such as lightning, something falling from the sky>>>> like a piece of space rock like a small meteorite and we>>>> weren't able to rule out anything," said Colorado Springs>>>> Fire Department Battalion Chief Steven Dubay.>>>>>>>>>> STORMTRACKER 13 Chief Meteorologist Matt Meister says>>>> he was at the station until about 1:00AM and did not see any>>>> lightning. It could be a space rock, but investigators>>>> have seen no sign of a rock. And the hole is too big to be>>>> from a bullet.>>>>>>>>>> Sandvig says the hole in her ceiling will not ruin>>>> their New Year's Eve celebration. The landlord said he>>>> will be out to fix the hole.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _>>>>> Hotmail: Powerful Free e
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Maybe someone shot a potato gun into the air, the potato dropped down through the roof, shredded apart and onto someone's plate of French fries. They should ask their patrons if anyone had any undercooked fries that night. :-) I wish I had known about this earlier. I would've driven down there to check it out, but tomorrow I have to work. :-( Bob Loeffler -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of geo...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 8:21 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery >>Hmmm. Loud boom, prior to New Years. Explosives?<< Perhaps somebody shooting a hole thru the ceiling from inside? GeoZay __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2598 - Release Date: 01/03/10 02:41:00 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Sounds like a case for the Hupes. Do the women have bad teeth? > Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 20:45:48 -0500> From: magellon@gmail.com> To: countde...@earthlink.net> CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery>> Hmmm. Loud boom, prior to New Years. Explosives?>> On 1/3/10, countde...@earthlink.net wrote:>> Actually, it was an icy frag from a comet, and it landed in a patron's>> double Scotch and water, and he drank it, and...and ...and then it was>> gone. :o)>>>> Guido>>>> -Original Message->>>From: Steve Dunklee>>>Sent: Jan 3, 2010 7:40 PM>>>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Greg Stanley>>> , ensorama...@ntlworld.com>>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery>>>>>>How about the center pockets of the pool table? or one of the customer>>> pockets lol!>>>Cheers>>>Steve>>>>>>--- On Sun, 1/3/10, ensorama...@ntlworld.com>>> wrote:>>>>>>> From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a>>>> Mystery>>>> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, "Greg Stanley">>>>>>>> Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 6:05 PM>>>> Quicksomeone check behind the>>>> Jukebox!!!>>>>>>>> Greg Stanley>>>> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery>>>>>>>>>> Greg S.>>>>>>>>>> http://www.krdo.com/Global/story.asp?S=11755241>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By: Stacey Kaiser>>>>> s.kai...@krdotv.com>>>>> Follow me on Twitter at www.twitter.com/staceykaiser>>>>>>>>>> COLORADO SPRINGS - Was it lightning, some sort of>>>> space rock, or ice from a plane? Fire investigators cannot>>>> rule anything out as the cause of a hole in the roof of Red>>>> Rock Lounge at 31st and Colorado Avenue in Colorado Springs.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I saw some insulation sitting on the table and I>>>> looked up and there's a hole in my ceiling," said Red Rock>>>> Lounge owner Karol Sandvig. Sandvig noticed the hole when>>>> she first walked into her bar, then she saw a note from her>>>> bartender. "Karol, I had to call the cops because>>>> something came through the roof and there was a loud boom,">>>> said a note from Bartender Tammy Newland.>>>>>>>>>> Firefighters got the call at 11:30pm Wednesday. They>>>> told Newland the boom was heard from their station a few>>>> streets away. "It scared everybody. Everybody was off>>>> their seats pretty quick. I don't think I've seen some of>>>> the people in here move that quick," said Newland.>>>>>>>>>> But the big question is, what caused this massive boom>>>> and 3-inch hole in the ceiling? "We tried to rule out>>>> things such as lightning, something falling from the sky>>>> like a piece of space rock like a small meteorite and we>>>> weren't able to rule out anything," said Colorado Springs>>>> Fire Department Battalion Chief Steven Dubay.>>>>>>>>>> STORMTRACKER 13 Chief Meteorologist Matt Meister says>>>> he was at the station until about 1:00AM and did not see any>>>> lightning. It could be a space rock, but investigators>>>> have seen no sign of a rock. And the hole is too big to be>>>> from a bullet.>>>>>>>>>> Sandvig says the hole in her ceiling will not ruin>>>> their New Year's Eve celebration. The landlord said he>>>> will be out to fix the hole.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _>>>>> Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by>>>> Microsoft.>>>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/>>>>> __>>>>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list>>>>> Meteorite-list@meteo
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>>Hmmm. Loud boom, prior to New Years. Explosives?<< Perhaps somebody shooting a hole thru the ceiling from inside? GeoZay __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hmmm. Loud boom, prior to New Years. Explosives? On 1/3/10, countde...@earthlink.net wrote: > Actually, it was an icy frag from a comet, and it landed in a patron's > double Scotch and water, and he drank it, and...and ...and then it was > gone. :o) > > Guido > > -Original Message- >>From: Steve Dunklee >>Sent: Jan 3, 2010 7:40 PM >>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Greg Stanley >> , ensorama...@ntlworld.com >>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery >> >>How about the center pockets of the pool table? or one of the customer >> pockets lol! >>Cheers >>Steve >> >>--- On Sun, 1/3/10, ensorama...@ntlworld.com >> wrote: >> >>> From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a >>> Mystery >>> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, "Greg Stanley" >>> >>> Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 6:05 PM >>> Quicksomeone check behind the >>> Jukebox!!! >>> >>> Greg Stanley >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery >>> > >>> > Greg S. >>> > >>> > http://www.krdo.com/Global/story.asp?S=11755241 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > By: Stacey Kaiser >>> > s.kai...@krdotv.com >>> > Follow me on Twitter at www.twitter.com/staceykaiser >>> > >>> > COLORADO SPRINGS - Was it lightning, some sort of >>> space rock, or ice from a plane? Fire investigators cannot >>> rule anything out as the cause of a hole in the roof of Red >>> Rock Lounge at 31st and Colorado Avenue in Colorado Springs. >>> >>> > >>> > "I saw some insulation sitting on the table and I >>> looked up and there's a hole in my ceiling," said Red Rock >>> Lounge owner Karol Sandvig. Sandvig noticed the hole when >>> she first walked into her bar, then she saw a note from her >>> bartender. "Karol, I had to call the cops because >>> something came through the roof and there was a loud boom," >>> said a note from Bartender Tammy Newland. >>> > >>> > Firefighters got the call at 11:30pm Wednesday. They >>> told Newland the boom was heard from their station a few >>> streets away. "It scared everybody. Everybody was off >>> their seats pretty quick. I don't think I've seen some of >>> the people in here move that quick," said Newland. >>> > >>> > But the big question is, what caused this massive boom >>> and 3-inch hole in the ceiling? "We tried to rule out >>> things such as lightning, something falling from the sky >>> like a piece of space rock like a small meteorite and we >>> weren't able to rule out anything," said Colorado Springs >>> Fire Department Battalion Chief Steven Dubay. >>> > >>> > STORMTRACKER 13 Chief Meteorologist Matt Meister says >>> he was at the station until about 1:00AM and did not see any >>> lightning. It could be a space rock, but investigators >>> have seen no sign of a rock. And the hole is too big to be >>> from a bullet. >>> > >>> > Sandvig says the hole in her ceiling will not ruin >>> their New Year's Eve celebration. The landlord said he >>> will be out to fix the hole. >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> > >>> _ >>> > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by >>> Microsoft. >>> > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ >>> > __ >>> > http://www.meteoritecentral.com >>> > Meteorite-list mailing list >>> > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> >>> __ >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> >> >> >> >>__ >>http://www.meteoritecentral.com >>Meteorite-list mailing list >>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Actually, it was an icy frag from a comet, and it landed in a patron's double Scotch and water, and he drank it, and...and ...and then it was gone. :o) Guido -Original Message- >From: Steve Dunklee >Sent: Jan 3, 2010 7:40 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Greg Stanley >, ensorama...@ntlworld.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery > >How about the center pockets of the pool table? or one of the customer >pockets lol! >Cheers >Steve > >--- On Sun, 1/3/10, ensorama...@ntlworld.com wrote: > >> From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery >> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, "Greg Stanley" >> >> Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 6:05 PM >> Quicksomeone check behind the >> Jukebox!!! >> >> Greg Stanley >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery >> > >> > Greg S. >> > >> > http://www.krdo.com/Global/story.asp?S=11755241 >> > >> > >> > >> > By: Stacey Kaiser >> > s.kai...@krdotv.com >> > Follow me on Twitter at www.twitter.com/staceykaiser >> > >> > COLORADO SPRINGS - Was it lightning, some sort of >> space rock, or ice from a plane? Fire investigators cannot >> rule anything out as the cause of a hole in the roof of Red >> Rock Lounge at 31st and Colorado Avenue in Colorado Springs. >> >> > >> > "I saw some insulation sitting on the table and I >> looked up and there's a hole in my ceiling," said Red Rock >> Lounge owner Karol Sandvig. Sandvig noticed the hole when >> she first walked into her bar, then she saw a note from her >> bartender. "Karol, I had to call the cops because >> something came through the roof and there was a loud boom," >> said a note from Bartender Tammy Newland. >> > >> > Firefighters got the call at 11:30pm Wednesday. They >> told Newland the boom was heard from their station a few >> streets away. "It scared everybody. Everybody was off >> their seats pretty quick. I don't think I've seen some of >> the people in here move that quick," said Newland. >> > >> > But the big question is, what caused this massive boom >> and 3-inch hole in the ceiling? "We tried to rule out >> things such as lightning, something falling from the sky >> like a piece of space rock like a small meteorite and we >> weren't able to rule out anything," said Colorado Springs >> Fire Department Battalion Chief Steven Dubay. >> > >> > STORMTRACKER 13 Chief Meteorologist Matt Meister says >> he was at the station until about 1:00AM and did not see any >> lightning. It could be a space rock, but investigators >> have seen no sign of a rock. And the hole is too big to be >> from a bullet. >> > >> > Sandvig says the hole in her ceiling will not ruin >> their New Year's Eve celebration. The landlord said he >> will be out to fix the hole. >> > >> >> >> >> > >> _ >> > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by >> Microsoft. >> > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ >> > __ >> > http://www.meteoritecentral.com >> > Meteorite-list mailing list >> > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> __ >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > > >__ >http://www.meteoritecentral.com >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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How about the center pockets of the pool table? or one of the customer pockets lol! Cheers Steve --- On Sun, 1/3/10, ensorama...@ntlworld.com wrote: > From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, "Greg Stanley" > > Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 6:05 PM > Quicksomeone check behind the > Jukebox!!! > > Greg Stanley > wrote: > > > > > > Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery > > > > Greg S. > > > > http://www.krdo.com/Global/story.asp?S=11755241 > > > > > > > > By: Stacey Kaiser > > s.kai...@krdotv.com > > Follow me on Twitter at www.twitter.com/staceykaiser > > > > COLORADO SPRINGS - Was it lightning, some sort of > space rock, or ice from a plane? Fire investigators cannot > rule anything out as the cause of a hole in the roof of Red > Rock Lounge at 31st and Colorado Avenue in Colorado Springs. > > > > > "I saw some insulation sitting on the table and I > looked up and there's a hole in my ceiling," said Red Rock > Lounge owner Karol Sandvig. Sandvig noticed the hole when > she first walked into her bar, then she saw a note from her > bartender. "Karol, I had to call the cops because > something came through the roof and there was a loud boom," > said a note from Bartender Tammy Newland. > > > > Firefighters got the call at 11:30pm Wednesday. They > told Newland the boom was heard from their station a few > streets away. "It scared everybody. Everybody was off > their seats pretty quick. I don't think I've seen some of > the people in here move that quick," said Newland. > > > > But the big question is, what caused this massive boom > and 3-inch hole in the ceiling? "We tried to rule out > things such as lightning, something falling from the sky > like a piece of space rock like a small meteorite and we > weren't able to rule out anything," said Colorado Springs > Fire Department Battalion Chief Steven Dubay. > > > > STORMTRACKER 13 Chief Meteorologist Matt Meister says > he was at the station until about 1:00AM and did not see any > lightning. It could be a space rock, but investigators > have seen no sign of a rock. And the hole is too big to be > from a bullet. > > > > Sandvig says the hole in her ceiling will not ruin > their New Year's Eve celebration. The landlord said he > will be out to fix the hole. > > > > > > > > _ > > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by > Microsoft. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ > > __ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Quicksomeone check behind the Jukebox!!! Greg Stanley wrote: > > > Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery > > Greg S. > > http://www.krdo.com/Global/story.asp?S=11755241 > > > > By: Stacey Kaiser > s.kai...@krdotv.com > Follow me on Twitter at www.twitter.com/staceykaiser > > COLORADO SPRINGS - Was it lightning, some sort of space rock, or ice from a > plane? Fire investigators cannot rule anything out as the cause of a hole in > the roof of Red Rock Lounge at 31st and Colorado Avenue in Colorado Springs. > > "I saw some insulation sitting on the table and I looked up and there's a > hole in my ceiling," said Red Rock Lounge owner Karol Sandvig. Sandvig > noticed the hole when she first walked into her bar, then she saw a note from > her bartender. "Karol, I had to call the cops because something came through > the roof and there was a loud boom," said a note from Bartender Tammy > Newland. > > Firefighters got the call at 11:30pm Wednesday. They told Newland the boom > was heard from their station a few streets away. "It scared everybody. > Everybody was off their seats pretty quick. I don't think I've seen some of > the people in here move that quick," said Newland. > > But the big question is, what caused this massive boom and 3-inch hole in the > ceiling? "We tried to rule out things such as lightning, something falling > from the sky like a piece of space rock like a small meteorite and we weren't > able to rule out anything," said Colorado Springs Fire Department Battalion > Chief Steven Dubay. > > STORMTRACKER 13 Chief Meteorologist Matt Meister says he was at the station > until about 1:00AM and did not see any lightning. It could be a space rock, > but investigators have seen no sign of a rock. And the hole is too big to be > from a bullet. > > Sandvig says the hole in her ceiling will not ruin their New Year's Eve > celebration. The landlord said he will be out to fix the hole. > > _ > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery
Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery Greg S. http://www.krdo.com/Global/story.asp?S=11755241 By: Stacey Kaiser s.kai...@krdotv.com Follow me on Twitter at www.twitter.com/staceykaiser COLORADO SPRINGS - Was it lightning, some sort of space rock, or ice from a plane? Fire investigators cannot rule anything out as the cause of a hole in the roof of Red Rock Lounge at 31st and Colorado Avenue in Colorado Springs. "I saw some insulation sitting on the table and I looked up and there's a hole in my ceiling," said Red Rock Lounge owner Karol Sandvig. Sandvig noticed the hole when she first walked into her bar, then she saw a note from her bartender. "Karol, I had to call the cops because something came through the roof and there was a loud boom," said a note from Bartender Tammy Newland. Firefighters got the call at 11:30pm Wednesday. They told Newland the boom was heard from their station a few streets away. "It scared everybody. Everybody was off their seats pretty quick. I don't think I've seen some of the people in here move that quick," said Newland. But the big question is, what caused this massive boom and 3-inch hole in the ceiling? "We tried to rule out things such as lightning, something falling from the sky like a piece of space rock like a small meteorite and we weren't able to rule out anything," said Colorado Springs Fire Department Battalion Chief Steven Dubay. STORMTRACKER 13 Chief Meteorologist Matt Meister says he was at the station until about 1:00AM and did not see any lightning. It could be a space rock, but investigators have seen no sign of a rock. And the hole is too big to be from a bullet. Sandvig says the hole in her ceiling will not ruin their New Year's Eve celebration. The landlord said he will be out to fix the hole. _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
