[meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?
Hi List, I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. I'm wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown about haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and concise answer. The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Lunar...' Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side note, it also says there are ...92 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Martian...) Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton University website has the number at 140. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified meteorites there actually were on the planet. ...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589 full-text writeups... That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow! Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian meteorites). Are these number correct? Regards, Eric __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?
Hi Eric, For collector's purposes, Norbert Classen's listing is near-definitive. According to his last update, the number of lunar meteorites is 67, not counting pairings. http://www.meteoris.de/luna/list.html Best regards, MikeG Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone On 8/23/10, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Hi List, I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. I'm wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown about haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and concise answer. The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Lunar...' Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side note, it also says there are ...92 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Martian...) Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton University website has the number at 140. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified meteorites there actually were on the planet. ...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589 full-text writeups... That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow! Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian meteorites). Are these number correct? Regards, Eric __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?
Dear Eric: My alphanumeric list contains 140 named stones, http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm with the caveat that some do not actually have official names yet (e.g., Unnamed 12). They're on the list because I've analyzed them and know them to be lunar. That's the main reason that my number, 140, is larger than the MetBull number, 130. It's my hope that all the unnamed get official names someday. Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered and classified, Ever? Stones, yes; meteorites, no. My composition-ordered list has only 68 meteorites because of known or strongly-suspected pairings. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alumina.htm Norbert Classen keeps close tabs on this and has 67 on his list (he and I both know about one that is on my list but may not be on his list yet): http://www.meteoris.de/luna/list.html So, ~68 is the total number of known lunar meteorites. That information is not easily available from the MetBull database. It sometimes takes years to establish that different named stones are or are not paired. A confusion for your calculations is that practically every individual lunar and martian meteorite stone gets it's own name and line-item in the MetBull database whereas all Allende stones have one name. Randy At 12:40 PM 8/23/2010 Monday, you wrote: Hi List, I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. I'm wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown about haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and concise answer. The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Lunar...' Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side note, it also says there are ...92 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Martian...) Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton University website has the number at 140. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified meteorites there actually were on the planet. ...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589 full-text writeups... That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow! Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian meteorites). Are these number correct? Regards, Eric __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?
That's an excellent Website - my thanks to Mr. Classen for providing all the latest additions of both lunars and matians and the nice pics. I can't tell how many times I've looked at them to get the proper visualization of a lunar (and Martian) every time I go to the Mojave desert to hunt. I know one is out there... somewhere. Greg S. Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:28:35 -0400 From: meteoritem...@gmail.com To: e...@meteoritesusa.com CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites? Hi Eric, For collector's purposes, Norbert Classen's listing is near-definitive. According to his last update, the number of lunar meteorites is 67, not counting pairings. http://www.meteoris.de/luna/list.html Best regards, MikeG Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone On 8/23/10, Meteorites USA wrote: Hi List, I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. I'm wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown about haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and concise answer. The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Lunar...' Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side note, it also says there are ...92 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Martian...) Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton University website has the number at 140. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified meteorites there actually were on the planet. ...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589 full-text writeups... That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow! Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian meteorites). Are these number correct? Regards, Eric __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?
Thank you Dr. Korotev! (Randy) I appreciate your response, and I know you can understand the confusion. Comparing the list of pairings of the 130 total stones Your list combined with Norbert's gives a better understanding of just how few Lunar meteorites there actually are. Re-figuring the percentages of 68 paired Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total classified meteorites that's 0.133% of all meteorites. Wow! That's an astronomically small percentage. Thanks! Regards, Eric On 8/23/2010 11:53 AM, Randy Korotev wrote: Dear Eric: My alphanumeric list contains 140 named stones, http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm with the caveat that some do not actually have official names yet (e.g., Unnamed 12). They're on the list because I've analyzed them and know them to be lunar. That's the main reason that my number, 140, is larger than the MetBull number, 130. It's my hope that all the unnamed get official names someday. Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered and classified, Ever? Stones, yes; meteorites, no. My composition-ordered list has only 68 meteorites because of known or strongly-suspected pairings. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alumina.htm Norbert Classen keeps close tabs on this and has 67 on his list (he and I both know about one that is on my list but may not be on his list yet): http://www.meteoris.de/luna/list.html So, ~68 is the total number of known lunar meteorites. That information is not easily available from the MetBull database. It sometimes takes years to establish that different named stones are or are not paired. A confusion for your calculations is that practically every individual lunar and martian meteorite stone gets it's own name and line-item in the MetBull database whereas all Allende stones have one name. Randy At 12:40 PM 8/23/2010 Monday, you wrote: Hi List, I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. I'm wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown about haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and concise answer. The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Lunar...' Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side note, it also says there are ...92 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Martian...) Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton University website has the number at 140. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified meteorites there actually were on the planet. ...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589 full-text writeups... That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow! Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian meteorites). Are these number correct? Regards, Eric __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?
And think: The moon is the closest celestial body to us; closer than Mars and the asteroid belt. Greg S. Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:24:14 -0700 From: e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites? Thank you Dr. Korotev! (Randy) I appreciate your response, and I know you can understand the confusion. Comparing the list of pairings of the 130 total stones Your list combined with Norbert's gives a better understanding of just how few Lunar meteorites there actually are. Re-figuring the percentages of 68 paired Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total classified meteorites that's 0.133% of all meteorites. Wow! That's an astronomically small percentage. Thanks! Regards, Eric On 8/23/2010 11:53 AM, Randy Korotev wrote: Dear Eric: My alphanumeric list contains 140 named stones, http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm with the caveat that some do not actually have official names yet (e.g., Unnamed 12). They're on the list because I've analyzed them and know them to be lunar. That's the main reason that my number, 140, is larger than the MetBull number, 130. It's my hope that all the unnamed get official names someday. Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered and classified, Ever? Stones, yes; meteorites, no. My composition-ordered list has only 68 meteorites because of known or strongly-suspected pairings. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alumina.htm Norbert Classen keeps close tabs on this and has 67 on his list (he and I both know about one that is on my list but may not be on his list yet): http://www.meteoris.de/luna/list.html So, ~68 is the total number of known lunar meteorites. That information is not easily available from the MetBull database. It sometimes takes years to establish that different named stones are or are not paired. A confusion for your calculations is that practically every individual lunar and martian meteorite stone gets it's own name and line-item in the MetBull database whereas all Allende stones have one name. Randy At 12:40 PM 8/23/2010 Monday, you wrote: Hi List, I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. I'm wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown about haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and concise answer. The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Lunar...' Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side note, it also says there are ...92 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Martian...) Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton University website has the number at 140. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified meteorites there actually were on the planet. ...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589 full-text writeups... That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow! Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian meteorites). Are these number correct? Regards, Eric __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I also noticed, there are no Lunar meteorites recovered in the USA. Yet... Does this still hold true? Eric On 8/23/2010 11:53 AM, Randy Korotev wrote: Dear Eric: My alphanumeric list contains 140 named stones, http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm with the caveat that some do not actually have official names yet (e.g., Unnamed 12). They're on the list because I've analyzed them and know them to be lunar. That's the main reason that my number, 140, is larger than the MetBull number, 130. It's my hope that all the unnamed get official names someday. Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered and classified, Ever? Stones, yes; meteorites, no. My composition-ordered list has only 68 meteorites because of known or strongly-suspected pairings. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alumina.htm Norbert Classen keeps close tabs on this and has 67 on his list (he and I both know about one that is on my list but may not be on his list yet): http://www.meteoris.de/luna/list.html So, ~68 is the total number of known lunar meteorites. That information is not easily available from the MetBull database. It sometimes takes years to establish that different named stones are or are not paired. A confusion for your calculations is that practically every individual lunar and martian meteorite stone gets it's own name and line-item in the MetBull database whereas all Allende stones have one name. Randy At 12:40 PM 8/23/2010 Monday, you wrote: Hi List, I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. I'm wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown about haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and concise answer. The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Lunar...' Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side note, it also says there are ...92 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Martian...) Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton University website has the number at 140. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified meteorites there actually were on the planet. ...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589 full-text writeups... That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow! Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian meteorites). Are these number correct? Regards, Eric __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?
Still true, Eric. Though there's a couple guys on E-Bay who would argue that with us. g Linton - Original Message - From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites? I also noticed, there are no Lunar meteorites recovered in the USA. Yet... Does this still hold true? Eric On 8/23/2010 11:53 AM, Randy Korotev wrote: Dear Eric: My alphanumeric list contains 140 named stones, http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm with the caveat that some do not actually have official names yet (e.g., Unnamed 12). They're on the list because I've analyzed them and know them to be lunar. That's the main reason that my number, 140, is larger than the MetBull number, 130. It's my hope that all the unnamed get official names someday. Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered and classified, Ever? Stones, yes; meteorites, no. My composition-ordered list has only 68 meteorites because of known or strongly-suspected pairings. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alumina.htm Norbert Classen keeps close tabs on this and has 67 on his list (he and I both know about one that is on my list but may not be on his list yet): http://www.meteoris.de/luna/list.html So, ~68 is the total number of known lunar meteorites. That information is not easily available from the MetBull database. It sometimes takes years to establish that different named stones are or are not paired. A confusion for your calculations is that practically every individual lunar and martian meteorite stone gets it's own name and line-item in the MetBull database whereas all Allende stones have one name. Randy At 12:40 PM 8/23/2010 Monday, you wrote: Hi List, I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. I'm wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown about haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and concise answer. The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Lunar...' Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side note, it also says there are ...92 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Martian...) Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton University website has the number at 140. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified meteorites there actually were on the planet. ...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589 full-text writeups... That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow! Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian meteorites). Are these number correct? Regards, Eric __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?
I get photos of US lunaites emailed to me all of the time! LOL ;) On 8/23/10, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: I also noticed, there are no Lunar meteorites recovered in the USA. Yet... Does this still hold true? Eric On 8/23/2010 11:53 AM, Randy Korotev wrote: Dear Eric: My alphanumeric list contains 140 named stones, http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm with the caveat that some do not actually have official names yet (e.g., Unnamed 12). They're on the list because I've analyzed them and know them to be lunar. That's the main reason that my number, 140, is larger than the MetBull number, 130. It's my hope that all the unnamed get official names someday. Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered and classified, Ever? Stones, yes; meteorites, no. My composition-ordered list has only 68 meteorites because of known or strongly-suspected pairings. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alumina.htm Norbert Classen keeps close tabs on this and has 67 on his list (he and I both know about one that is on my list but may not be on his list yet): http://www.meteoris.de/luna/list.html So, ~68 is the total number of known lunar meteorites. That information is not easily available from the MetBull database. It sometimes takes years to establish that different named stones are or are not paired. A confusion for your calculations is that practically every individual lunar and martian meteorite stone gets it's own name and line-item in the MetBull database whereas all Allende stones have one name. Randy At 12:40 PM 8/23/2010 Monday, you wrote: Hi List, I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. I'm wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown about haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and concise answer. The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Lunar...' Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side note, it also says there are ...92 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Martian...) Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton University website has the number at 140. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified meteorites there actually were on the planet. ...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589 full-text writeups... That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow! Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian meteorites). Are these number correct? Regards, Eric __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?
Feldsparic breccias are very common throughout the SW deserts and (I believe) in many other areas, and these look very similar to luners. I think it's going to have to have a fusion crust. If its sandblasted or very weathered, it may never be found. Greg S. Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:25:18 -0400 From: meteoritem...@gmail.com To: e...@meteoritesusa.com CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites? I get photos of US lunaites emailed to me all of the time! LOL ;) On 8/23/10, Meteorites USA wrote: I also noticed, there are no Lunar meteorites recovered in the USA. Yet... Does this still hold true? Eric On 8/23/2010 11:53 AM, Randy Korotev wrote: Dear Eric: My alphanumeric list contains 140 named stones, http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm with the caveat that some do not actually have official names yet (e.g., Unnamed 12). They're on the list because I've analyzed them and know them to be lunar. That's the main reason that my number, 140, is larger than the MetBull number, 130. It's my hope that all the unnamed get official names someday. Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered and classified, Ever? Stones, yes; meteorites, no. My composition-ordered list has only 68 meteorites because of known or strongly-suspected pairings. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alumina.htm Norbert Classen keeps close tabs on this and has 67 on his list (he and I both know about one that is on my list but may not be on his list yet): http://www.meteoris.de/luna/list.html So, ~68 is the total number of known lunar meteorites. That information is not easily available from the MetBull database. It sometimes takes years to establish that different named stones are or are not paired. A confusion for your calculations is that practically every individual lunar and martian meteorite stone gets it's own name and line-item in the MetBull database whereas all Allende stones have one name. Randy At 12:40 PM 8/23/2010 Monday, you wrote: Hi List, I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. I'm wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown about haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and concise answer. The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Lunar...' Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side note, it also says there are ...92 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Martian...) Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton University website has the number at 140. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified meteorites there actually were on the planet. ...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589 full-text writeups... That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow! Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian meteorites). Are these number correct? Regards, Eric __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http
Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?
Thank you once more so much Randy for that unvaluable list. I went through your complete list (first link) rapidly so as to update my collection and noticed that NWA 3186 is missing in the headings (though it is mentioned in the NWA 2977 pairings...) Do you agree and, if so, would this change the total figure ? Best wishes, Zelimir Randy Korotev koro...@wustl.edu a écrit : Dear Eric: My alphanumeric list contains 140 named stones, http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm with the caveat that some do not actually have official names yet (e.g., Unnamed 12). They're on the list because I've analyzed them and know them to be lunar. That's the main reason that my number, 140, is larger than the MetBull number, 130. It's my hope that all the unnamed get official names someday. Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered and classified, Ever? Stones, yes; meteorites, no. My composition-ordered list has only 68 meteorites because of known or strongly-suspected pairings. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alumina.htm Norbert Classen keeps close tabs on this and has 67 on his list (he and I both know about one that is on my list but may not be on his list yet): http://www.meteoris.de/luna/list.html So, ~68 is the total number of known lunar meteorites. That information is not easily available from the MetBull database. It sometimes takes years to establish that different named stones are or are not paired. A confusion for your calculations is that practically every individual lunar and martian meteorite stone gets it's own name and line-item in the MetBull database whereas all Allende stones have one name. Randy At 12:40 PM 8/23/2010 Monday, you wrote: Hi List, I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. I'm wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown about haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and concise answer. The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Lunar...' Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side note, it also says there are ...92 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Martian...) Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton University website has the number at 140. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified meteorites there actually were on the planet. ...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589 full-text writeups... That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow! Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian meteorites). Are these number correct? Regards, Eric __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?
It's funny, I was just talking about this with Sonny Clary this morning about this very thing. I would consider Sonny and many other professional meteorite hunters, authorities on Meteorite ID in the field. You bring up a very good point Greg. That's what meteorite hunting is all about. ID! Being able to ID a meteorite, or suspect meteorite while in the field is the most important part next to actually getting out there. That's why physical examination of ALL types of meteorites are so vitally important to successful meteorite hunting. I'm sure most meteorite hunters will agree. If you don't know what you're looking for, how can you expect to find it? Weathered Lunar meteorites will probably look similar weathered earth rocks to the untrained eye. Some Lunars actually look like meteorites with fusion crust and thumbprints. ;) (just look at NWA 482 http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/nwa0482.htm one of the most beautiful Lunar meteorites I've ever seen) However, many great meteorite hunters know what they're doing, can ID a meteorite from 50 feet away, and have examined thousands of meteorites, many of them Lunar meteorites. Yet even with all their thousands upon thousands of combined hours in the field, the elusive USA Lunar is hiding still. It IS out there... Somewhere. Regards, Eric On 8/23/2010 1:34 PM, Thunder Stone wrote: Feldsparic breccias are very common throughout the SW deserts and (I believe) in many other areas, and these look very similar to luners. I think it's going to have to have a fusion crust. If its sandblasted or very weathered, it may never be found. Greg S. Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:25:18 -0400 From: meteoritem...@gmail.com To: e...@meteoritesusa.com CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites? I get photos of US lunaites emailed to me all of the time! LOL ;) On 8/23/10, Meteorites USA wrote: I also noticed, there are no Lunar meteorites recovered in the USA. Yet... Does this still hold true? Eric On 8/23/2010 11:53 AM, Randy Korotev wrote: Dear Eric: My alphanumeric list contains 140 named stones, http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm with the caveat that some do not actually have official names yet (e.g., Unnamed 12). They're on the list because I've analyzed them and know them to be lunar. That's the main reason that my number, 140, is larger than the MetBull number, 130. It's my hope that all the unnamed get official names someday. Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered and classified, Ever? Stones, yes; meteorites, no. My composition-ordered list has only 68 meteorites because of known or strongly-suspected pairings. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alumina.htm Norbert Classen keeps close tabs on this and has 67 on his list (he and I both know about one that is on my list but may not be on his list yet): http://www.meteoris.de/luna/list.html So, ~68 is the total number of known lunar meteorites. That information is not easily available from the MetBull database. It sometimes takes years to establish that different named stones are or are not paired. A confusion for your calculations is that practically every individual lunar and martian meteorite stone gets it's own name and line-item in the MetBull database whereas all Allende stones have one name. Randy At 12:40 PM 8/23/2010 Monday, you wrote: Hi List, I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. I'm wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown about haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and concise answer. The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Lunar...' Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side note, it also says there are ...92 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Martian...) Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton University website has the number at 140. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified meteorites there actually were on the planet. ...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589 full-text writeups... That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow! Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian meteorites). Are these number correct? Regards, Eric __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?
Hi, The land area of the U.S.A. (true dry land, excluding portions of the Great Lakes and other waters within the boundaries of the nation) constitutes 1.8% of the total area of the planet and 6.25% of the land area of the planet. If you will grant that few meteorites are recovered at sea, that means that, given a random distribution, 6.25% of all Lunar meteorites SHOULD be found in the U.S.A., all other factors being equal. If that were true (it's not, I guess) four of the 68 Lunars would be of American origin. Therefore, the level of hunting scrutiny is not high enough in the U.S. to catch them. The known Lunars are from hunting environments that favor high recovery rates (Oman, Sahara, NWA obviously). Rob Matson's suggestions about potential future finders are additionally perspicacious because those hunters hunt similar environments to those where Lunars have been found, with long accumulation times of stones and where a stone sticks out and gets your attention. There is always the chance an inconspicuous Lunar has been found but not identified. If you're looking for a location that might contain such a rare type, your best chances are in an area where stones of the greatest terrestrial exposure age have been found in the past. Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites? I also noticed, there are no Lunar meteorites recovered in the USA. Yet... Does this still hold true? Eric On 8/23/2010 11:53 AM, Randy Korotev wrote: Dear Eric: My alphanumeric list contains 140 named stones, http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm with the caveat that some do not actually have official names yet (e.g., Unnamed 12). They're on the list because I've analyzed them and know them to be lunar. That's the main reason that my number, 140, is larger than the MetBull number, 130. It's my hope that all the unnamed get official names someday. Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered and classified, Ever? Stones, yes; meteorites, no. My composition-ordered list has only 68 meteorites because of known or strongly-suspected pairings. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alumina.htm Norbert Classen keeps close tabs on this and has 67 on his list (he and I both know about one that is on my list but may not be on his list yet): http://www.meteoris.de/luna/list.html So, ~68 is the total number of known lunar meteorites. That information is not easily available from the MetBull database. It sometimes takes years to establish that different named stones are or are not paired. A confusion for your calculations is that practically every individual lunar and martian meteorite stone gets it's own name and line-item in the MetBull database whereas all Allende stones have one name. Randy At 12:40 PM 8/23/2010 Monday, you wrote: Hi List, I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. I'm wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown about haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and concise answer. The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Lunar...' Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side note, it also says there are ...92 records found for meteorites with historical types that contain Martian...) Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton University website has the number at 140. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified meteorites there actually were on the planet. ...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589 full-text writeups... That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow! Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian meteorites). Are these number correct? Regards, Eric __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?
another problem with finding lunar or any meteorite in north and south america is the mostly wet environment. AS any treasure hunter can confirm.objects at first on the surface are quickly burried if they are not burried by the impact. Coins lost 50 years ago are usually found 8to 10 inches deep. So without erosion or human activities like farming exposing them. There are few places to find any meteorites. Some day every class of meteorite will have been found everywhere. We just have to keep looking and have fun doing it. Cheers Steve __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] How many lunar meteorites are there now?
Hello List, How many lunar meteorites are there now? Last count I got wassome where around 100 to 120 Tim Heitz __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list