[meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?

2010-08-23 Thread Meteorites USA

Hi List,

I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this 
question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. I'm 
wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown about 
haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and concise answer.


The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with historical 
types that contain Lunar...'


Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered 
and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side note, it also 
says there are ...92 records found for meteorites with historical types 
that contain Martian...)


Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton 
University website has the number at 140. 
http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm


Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified meteorites 
there actually were on the planet.


...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589 full-text 
writeups...


That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow!

Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total 
classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the 
total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian meteorites).


Are these number correct?

Regards,
Eric

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Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?

2010-08-23 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Eric,

For collector's purposes, Norbert Classen's listing is
near-definitive.  According to his last update, the number of lunar
meteorites is 67, not counting pairings.

http://www.meteoris.de/luna/list.html

Best regards,

MikeG


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On 8/23/10, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote:
 Hi List,

 I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this
 question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. I'm
 wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown about
 haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and concise answer.

 The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with historical
 types that contain Lunar...'

 Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered
 and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side note, it also
 says there are ...92 records found for meteorites with historical types
 that contain Martian...)

 Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton
 University website has the number at 140.
 http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm

 Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified meteorites
 there actually were on the planet.

 ...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589 full-text
 writeups...

 That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow!

 Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total
 classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the
 total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian meteorites).

 Are these number correct?

 Regards,
 Eric

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Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?

2010-08-23 Thread Randy Korotev

Dear Eric:

My alphanumeric list contains 140 named stones,

http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm

with the caveat that some do not actually have official names yet 
(e.g., Unnamed 12).  They're on the list because I've analyzed them 
and know them to be lunar.  That's the main reason that my number, 
140, is larger than the MetBull number, 130.  It's my hope that all 
the unnamed get official names someday.


Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been 
recovered and classified, Ever?  Stones, yes; meteorites, no.


My composition-ordered list has only 68 meteorites because of known 
or strongly-suspected pairings.


http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alumina.htm

Norbert Classen keeps close tabs on this and has 67 on his list (he 
and I both know about one that is on my list but may not be on his list yet):


http://www.meteoris.de/luna/list.html

So, ~68 is the total number of known lunar meteorites.  That 
information is not easily available from the MetBull database.  It 
sometimes takes years to establish that different named stones are or 
are not paired.


A confusion for your calculations is that practically every 
individual lunar and martian meteorite stone gets it's own name and 
line-item in the MetBull database whereas all Allende stones have one name.


Randy




At 12:40 PM 8/23/2010 Monday, you wrote:

Hi List,

I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this 
question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. 
I'm wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown 
about haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and 
concise answer.


The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with 
historical types that contain Lunar...'


Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been 
recovered and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side 
note, it also says there are ...92 records found for meteorites 
with historical types that contain Martian...)


Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton 
University website has the number at 140. 
http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm


Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified 
meteorites there actually were on the planet.


...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589 
full-text writeups...


That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow!

Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total 
classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the 
total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian meteorites).


Are these number correct?

Regards,
Eric

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Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?

2010-08-23 Thread Thunder Stone

That's an excellent Website - my thanks to Mr. Classen for providing all the 
latest additions of both lunars and matians and the nice pics.  I can't tell 
how many times I've looked at them to get the proper visualization of a lunar 
(and Martian) every time I go to the Mojave desert to hunt.  I know one is out 
there... somewhere.

Greg S.

 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:28:35 -0400
 From: meteoritem...@gmail.com
 To: e...@meteoritesusa.com
 CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?

 Hi Eric,

 For collector's purposes, Norbert Classen's listing is
 near-definitive. According to his last update, the number of lunar
 meteorites is 67, not counting pairings.

 http://www.meteoris.de/luna/list.html

 Best regards,

 MikeG

 
 Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone  Ironworks Meteorites
 http://www.galactic-stone.com
 http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone
 

 On 8/23/10, Meteorites USA  wrote:
  Hi List,
 
  I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this
  question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. I'm
  wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown about
  haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and concise answer.
 
  The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with historical
  types that contain Lunar...'
 
  Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered
  and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side note, it also
  says there are ...92 records found for meteorites with historical types
  that contain Martian...)
 
  Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton
  University website has the number at 140.
  http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm
 
  Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified meteorites
  there actually were on the planet.
 
  ...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589 full-text
  writeups...
 
  That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow!
 
  Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total
  classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the
  total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian meteorites).
 
  Are these number correct?
 
  Regards,
  Eric
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?

2010-08-23 Thread Meteorites USA

Thank you Dr. Korotev! (Randy)

I appreciate your response, and I know you can understand the confusion. 
Comparing the list of pairings of the 130 total stones Your list 
combined with Norbert's gives a better understanding of just how few 
Lunar meteorites there actually are. Re-figuring the percentages of 68 
paired Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total classified meteorites 
that's 0.133% of all meteorites.


Wow! That's an astronomically small percentage.

Thanks!

Regards,
Eric



On 8/23/2010 11:53 AM, Randy Korotev wrote:

Dear Eric:

My alphanumeric list contains 140 named stones,

http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm

with the caveat that some do not actually have official names yet 
(e.g., Unnamed 12).  They're on the list because I've analyzed them 
and know them to be lunar.  That's the main reason that my number, 
140, is larger than the MetBull number, 130.  It's my hope that all 
the unnamed get official names someday.


Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been 
recovered and classified, Ever?  Stones, yes; meteorites, no.


My composition-ordered list has only 68 meteorites because of known or 
strongly-suspected pairings.


http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alumina.htm

Norbert Classen keeps close tabs on this and has 67 on his list (he 
and I both know about one that is on my list but may not be on his 
list yet):


http://www.meteoris.de/luna/list.html

So, ~68 is the total number of known lunar meteorites.  That 
information is not easily available from the MetBull database.  It 
sometimes takes years to establish that different named stones are or 
are not paired.


A confusion for your calculations is that practically every individual 
lunar and martian meteorite stone gets it's own name and line-item in 
the MetBull database whereas all Allende stones have one name.


Randy




At 12:40 PM 8/23/2010 Monday, you wrote:

Hi List,

I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this 
question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. I'm 
wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown 
about haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and 
concise answer.


The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with historical 
types that contain Lunar...'


Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been 
recovered and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side 
note, it also says there are ...92 records found for meteorites with 
historical types that contain Martian...)


Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton 
University website has the number at 140. 
http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm


Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified 
meteorites there actually were on the planet.


...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589 
full-text writeups...


That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow!

Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total 
classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the 
total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian 
meteorites).


Are these number correct?

Regards,
Eric

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Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?

2010-08-23 Thread Thunder Stone

And think:

The moon is the closest celestial body to us; closer than Mars and the asteroid 
belt.

Greg S.


 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:24:14 -0700
 From: e...@meteoritesusa.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?

 Thank you Dr. Korotev! (Randy)

 I appreciate your response, and I know you can understand the confusion.
 Comparing the list of pairings of the 130 total stones Your list
 combined with Norbert's gives a better understanding of just how few
 Lunar meteorites there actually are. Re-figuring the percentages of 68
 paired Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total classified meteorites
 that's 0.133% of all meteorites.

 Wow! That's an astronomically small percentage.

 Thanks!

 Regards,
 Eric



 On 8/23/2010 11:53 AM, Randy Korotev wrote:
  Dear Eric:
 
  My alphanumeric list contains 140 named stones,
 
  http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm
 
  with the caveat that some do not actually have official names yet
  (e.g., Unnamed 12). They're on the list because I've analyzed them
  and know them to be lunar. That's the main reason that my number,
  140, is larger than the MetBull number, 130. It's my hope that all
  the unnamed get official names someday.
 
  Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been
  recovered and classified, Ever? Stones, yes; meteorites, no.
 
  My composition-ordered list has only 68 meteorites because of known or
  strongly-suspected pairings.
 
  http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alumina.htm
 
  Norbert Classen keeps close tabs on this and has 67 on his list (he
  and I both know about one that is on my list but may not be on his
  list yet):
 
  http://www.meteoris.de/luna/list.html
 
  So, ~68 is the total number of known lunar meteorites. That
  information is not easily available from the MetBull database. It
  sometimes takes years to establish that different named stones are or
  are not paired.
 
  A confusion for your calculations is that practically every individual
  lunar and martian meteorite stone gets it's own name and line-item in
  the MetBull database whereas all Allende stones have one name.
 
  Randy
 
 
 
 
  At 12:40 PM 8/23/2010 Monday, you wrote:
  Hi List,
 
  I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this
  question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. I'm
  wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown
  about haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and
  concise answer.
 
  The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with historical
  types that contain Lunar...'
 
  Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been
  recovered and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side
  note, it also says there are ...92 records found for meteorites with
  historical types that contain Martian...)
 
  Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton
  University website has the number at 140.
  http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm
 
  Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified
  meteorites there actually were on the planet.
 
  ...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589
  full-text writeups...
 
  That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow!
 
  Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total
  classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the
  total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian
  meteorites).
 
  Are these number correct?
 
  Regards,
  Eric
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?

2010-08-23 Thread Meteorites USA

I also noticed, there are no Lunar meteorites recovered in the USA. Yet...

Does this still hold true?

Eric


On 8/23/2010 11:53 AM, Randy Korotev wrote:

Dear Eric:

My alphanumeric list contains 140 named stones,

http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm

with the caveat that some do not actually have official names yet 
(e.g., Unnamed 12).  They're on the list because I've analyzed them 
and know them to be lunar.  That's the main reason that my number, 
140, is larger than the MetBull number, 130.  It's my hope that all 
the unnamed get official names someday.


Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been 
recovered and classified, Ever?  Stones, yes; meteorites, no.


My composition-ordered list has only 68 meteorites because of known or 
strongly-suspected pairings.


http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alumina.htm

Norbert Classen keeps close tabs on this and has 67 on his list (he 
and I both know about one that is on my list but may not be on his 
list yet):


http://www.meteoris.de/luna/list.html

So, ~68 is the total number of known lunar meteorites.  That 
information is not easily available from the MetBull database.  It 
sometimes takes years to establish that different named stones are or 
are not paired.


A confusion for your calculations is that practically every individual 
lunar and martian meteorite stone gets it's own name and line-item in 
the MetBull database whereas all Allende stones have one name.


Randy




At 12:40 PM 8/23/2010 Monday, you wrote:

Hi List,

I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this 
question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. I'm 
wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown 
about haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and 
concise answer.


The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with historical 
types that contain Lunar...'


Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been 
recovered and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side 
note, it also says there are ...92 records found for meteorites with 
historical types that contain Martian...)


Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton 
University website has the number at 140. 
http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm


Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified 
meteorites there actually were on the planet.


...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589 
full-text writeups...


That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow!

Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total 
classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the 
total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian 
meteorites).


Are these number correct?

Regards,
Eric

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Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?

2010-08-23 Thread Linton Rohr

Still true, Eric.
Though there's a couple guys on E-Bay who would argue that with us. g
Linton

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I also noticed, there are no Lunar meteorites recovered in the USA. Yet...

Does this still hold true?

Eric


On 8/23/2010 11:53 AM, Randy Korotev wrote:

Dear Eric:

My alphanumeric list contains 140 named stones,

http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm

with the caveat that some do not actually have official names yet (e.g., 
Unnamed 12).  They're on the list because I've analyzed them and know 
them to be lunar.  That's the main reason that my number, 140, is larger 
than the MetBull number, 130.  It's my hope that all the unnamed get 
official names someday.


Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered 
and classified, Ever?  Stones, yes; meteorites, no.


My composition-ordered list has only 68 meteorites because of known or 
strongly-suspected pairings.


http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alumina.htm

Norbert Classen keeps close tabs on this and has 67 on his list (he and I 
both know about one that is on my list but may not be on his list yet):


http://www.meteoris.de/luna/list.html

So, ~68 is the total number of known lunar meteorites.  That information 
is not easily available from the MetBull database.  It sometimes takes 
years to establish that different named stones are or are not paired.


A confusion for your calculations is that practically every individual 
lunar and martian meteorite stone gets it's own name and line-item in the 
MetBull database whereas all Allende stones have one name.


Randy




At 12:40 PM 8/23/2010 Monday, you wrote:

Hi List,

I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this 
question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. I'm 
wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown about 
haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and concise 
answer.


The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with historical 
types that contain Lunar...'


Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been recovered 
and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side note, it also 
says there are ...92 records found for meteorites with historical types 
that contain Martian...)


Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton 
University website has the number at 140. 
http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm


Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified meteorites 
there actually were on the planet.


...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589 full-text 
writeups...


That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow!

Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total 
classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the 
total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian 
meteorites).


Are these number correct?

Regards,
Eric

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Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?

2010-08-23 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
I get photos of US lunaites emailed to me all of the time!  LOL ;)



On 8/23/10, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote:
 I also noticed, there are no Lunar meteorites recovered in the USA. Yet...

 Does this still hold true?

 Eric


 On 8/23/2010 11:53 AM, Randy Korotev wrote:
 Dear Eric:

 My alphanumeric list contains 140 named stones,

 http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm

 with the caveat that some do not actually have official names yet
 (e.g., Unnamed 12).  They're on the list because I've analyzed them
 and know them to be lunar.  That's the main reason that my number,
 140, is larger than the MetBull number, 130.  It's my hope that all
 the unnamed get official names someday.

 Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been
 recovered and classified, Ever?  Stones, yes; meteorites, no.

 My composition-ordered list has only 68 meteorites because of known or
 strongly-suspected pairings.

 http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alumina.htm

 Norbert Classen keeps close tabs on this and has 67 on his list (he
 and I both know about one that is on my list but may not be on his
 list yet):

 http://www.meteoris.de/luna/list.html

 So, ~68 is the total number of known lunar meteorites.  That
 information is not easily available from the MetBull database.  It
 sometimes takes years to establish that different named stones are or
 are not paired.

 A confusion for your calculations is that practically every individual
 lunar and martian meteorite stone gets it's own name and line-item in
 the MetBull database whereas all Allende stones have one name.

 Randy




 At 12:40 PM 8/23/2010 Monday, you wrote:
 Hi List,

 I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this
 question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. I'm
 wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown
 about haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and
 concise answer.

 The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with historical
 types that contain Lunar...'

 Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been
 recovered and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side
 note, it also says there are ...92 records found for meteorites with
 historical types that contain Martian...)

 Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton
 University website has the number at 140.
 http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm

 Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified
 meteorites there actually were on the planet.

 ...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589
 full-text writeups...

 That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow!

 Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total
 classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the
 total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian
 meteorites).

 Are these number correct?

 Regards,
 Eric

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Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?

2010-08-23 Thread Thunder Stone

Feldsparic breccias are very common throughout the SW deserts and (I believe) 
in many other areas, and these look very similar to luners.  I think it's going 
to have to have a fusion crust.  If its sandblasted or very weathered, it may 
never be found.

Greg S.


 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:25:18 -0400
 From: meteoritem...@gmail.com
 To: e...@meteoritesusa.com
 CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?

 I get photos of US lunaites emailed to me all of the time! LOL ;)



 On 8/23/10, Meteorites USA  wrote:
  I also noticed, there are no Lunar meteorites recovered in the USA. Yet...
 
  Does this still hold true?
 
  Eric
 
 
  On 8/23/2010 11:53 AM, Randy Korotev wrote:
  Dear Eric:
 
  My alphanumeric list contains 140 named stones,
 
  http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm
 
  with the caveat that some do not actually have official names yet
  (e.g., Unnamed 12). They're on the list because I've analyzed them
  and know them to be lunar. That's the main reason that my number,
  140, is larger than the MetBull number, 130. It's my hope that all
  the unnamed get official names someday.
 
  Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been
  recovered and classified, Ever? Stones, yes; meteorites, no.
 
  My composition-ordered list has only 68 meteorites because of known or
  strongly-suspected pairings.
 
  http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alumina.htm
 
  Norbert Classen keeps close tabs on this and has 67 on his list (he
  and I both know about one that is on my list but may not be on his
  list yet):
 
  http://www.meteoris.de/luna/list.html
 
  So, ~68 is the total number of known lunar meteorites. That
  information is not easily available from the MetBull database. It
  sometimes takes years to establish that different named stones are or
  are not paired.
 
  A confusion for your calculations is that practically every individual
  lunar and martian meteorite stone gets it's own name and line-item in
  the MetBull database whereas all Allende stones have one name.
 
  Randy
 
 
 
 
  At 12:40 PM 8/23/2010 Monday, you wrote:
  Hi List,
 
  I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this
  question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. I'm
  wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown
  about haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and
  concise answer.
 
  The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with historical
  types that contain Lunar...'
 
  Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been
  recovered and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side
  note, it also says there are ...92 records found for meteorites with
  historical types that contain Martian...)
 
  Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton
  University website has the number at 140.
  http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm
 
  Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified
  meteorites there actually were on the planet.
 
  ...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589
  full-text writeups...
 
  That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow!
 
  Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total
  classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the
  total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian
  meteorites).
 
  Are these number correct?
 
  Regards,
  Eric
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?

2010-08-23 Thread Zelimir . Gabelica

Thank you once more so much Randy for that unvaluable list.

I went through your complete list (first link) rapidly so as to update  
my collection and noticed that NWA 3186 is missing in the headings  
(though it is mentioned in the NWA 2977 pairings...)


Do you agree and, if so, would this change the total figure ?

Best wishes,

Zelimir



Randy Korotev koro...@wustl.edu a écrit :


Dear Eric:

My alphanumeric list contains 140 named stones,

http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm

with the caveat that some do not actually have official names yet  
(e.g., Unnamed 12).  They're on the list because I've analyzed  
them and know them to be lunar.  That's the main reason that my  
number, 140, is larger than the MetBull number, 130.  It's my hope  
that all the unnamed get official names someday.


Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been  
recovered and classified, Ever?  Stones, yes; meteorites, no.


My composition-ordered list has only 68 meteorites because of known  
or strongly-suspected pairings.


http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alumina.htm

Norbert Classen keeps close tabs on this and has 67 on his list (he  
and I both know about one that is on my list but may not be on his  
list yet):


http://www.meteoris.de/luna/list.html

So, ~68 is the total number of known lunar meteorites.  That  
information is not easily available from the MetBull database.  It  
sometimes takes years to establish that different named stones are  
or are not paired.


A confusion for your calculations is that practically every  
individual lunar and martian meteorite stone gets it's own name and  
line-item in the MetBull database whereas all Allende stones have  
one name.


Randy




At 12:40 PM 8/23/2010 Monday, you wrote:

Hi List,

I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting  
this question, or people that say they have found a Lunar  
meteorite. I'm wondering how many there actually are. I've heard  
numbers thrown about haphazardly, but no one has been able to give  
me a clear and concise answer.


The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with  
historical types that contain Lunar...'


Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been  
recovered and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side  
note, it also says there are ...92 records found for meteorites  
with historical types that contain Martian...)


Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton  
University website has the number at 140.  
http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm


Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified  
meteorites there actually were on the planet.


...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589  
full-text writeups...


That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow!

Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total  
classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the  
total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian  
meteorites).


Are these number correct?

Regards,
Eric

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Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?

2010-08-23 Thread Meteorites USA
It's funny, I was just talking about this with Sonny Clary this morning 
about this very thing. I would consider Sonny and many other 
professional meteorite hunters, authorities on Meteorite ID in the 
field. You bring up a very good point Greg.


That's what meteorite hunting is all about. ID! Being able to ID a 
meteorite, or suspect meteorite while in the field is the most 
important part next to actually getting out there. That's why physical 
examination of ALL types of meteorites are so vitally important to 
successful meteorite hunting. I'm sure most meteorite hunters will 
agree. If you don't know what you're looking for, how can you expect to 
find it?


Weathered Lunar meteorites will probably look similar weathered earth 
rocks to the untrained eye. Some Lunars actually look like meteorites 
with fusion crust and thumbprints. ;) (just look at NWA 482 
http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/nwa0482.htm one of the most 
beautiful Lunar meteorites I've ever seen)


However, many great meteorite hunters know what they're doing, can ID a 
meteorite from 50 feet away, and have examined thousands of meteorites, 
many of them Lunar meteorites. Yet even with all their thousands upon 
thousands of combined hours in the field, the elusive USA Lunar is 
hiding still.


It IS out there... Somewhere.

Regards,
Eric


On 8/23/2010 1:34 PM, Thunder Stone wrote:

Feldsparic breccias are very common throughout the SW deserts and (I believe) 
in many other areas, and these look very similar to luners.  I think it's going 
to have to have a fusion crust.  If its sandblasted or very weathered, it may 
never be found.

Greg S.


   

Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:25:18 -0400
From: meteoritem...@gmail.com
To: e...@meteoritesusa.com
CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?

I get photos of US lunaites emailed to me all of the time! LOL ;)



On 8/23/10, Meteorites USA  wrote:
 

I also noticed, there are no Lunar meteorites recovered in the USA. Yet...

Does this still hold true?

Eric


On 8/23/2010 11:53 AM, Randy Korotev wrote:
   

Dear Eric:

My alphanumeric list contains 140 named stones,

http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm

with the caveat that some do not actually have official names yet
(e.g., Unnamed 12). They're on the list because I've analyzed them
and know them to be lunar. That's the main reason that my number,
140, is larger than the MetBull number, 130. It's my hope that all
the unnamed get official names someday.

Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been
recovered and classified, Ever? Stones, yes; meteorites, no.

My composition-ordered list has only 68 meteorites because of known or
strongly-suspected pairings.

http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alumina.htm

Norbert Classen keeps close tabs on this and has 67 on his list (he
and I both know about one that is on my list but may not be on his
list yet):

http://www.meteoris.de/luna/list.html

So, ~68 is the total number of known lunar meteorites. That
information is not easily available from the MetBull database. It
sometimes takes years to establish that different named stones are or
are not paired.

A confusion for your calculations is that practically every individual
lunar and martian meteorite stone gets it's own name and line-item in
the MetBull database whereas all Allende stones have one name.

Randy




At 12:40 PM 8/23/2010 Monday, you wrote:
 

Hi List,

I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this
question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. I'm
wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown
about haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and
concise answer.

The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with historical
types that contain Lunar...'

Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been
recovered and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side
note, it also says there are ...92 records found for meteorites with
historical types that contain Martian...)

Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton
University website has the number at 140.
http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm

Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified
meteorites there actually were on the planet.

...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589
full-text writeups...

That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow!

Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total
classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the
total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian
meteorites).

Are these number correct?

Regards,
Eric

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Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?

2010-08-23 Thread Sterling K. Webb

Hi,

The land area of the U.S.A. (true dry land, excluding
portions of the Great Lakes and other waters within
the boundaries of the nation) constitutes 1.8% of the
total area of the planet and 6.25% of the land area
of the planet.

If you will grant that few meteorites are recovered at
sea, that means that, given a random distribution,
6.25% of all Lunar meteorites SHOULD be found in
the U.S.A., all other factors being equal. If that were
true (it's not, I guess) four of the 68 Lunars would
be of American origin.

Therefore, the level of hunting scrutiny is not high
enough in the U.S. to catch them. The known Lunars
are from hunting environments that favor high
recovery rates (Oman, Sahara, NWA obviously).

Rob Matson's suggestions about potential future
finders are additionally perspicacious because those
hunters hunt similar environments to those where
Lunars have been found, with long accumulation
times of stones and where a stone sticks out and
gets your attention.

There is always the chance an inconspicuous Lunar
has been found but not identified. If you're looking
for a location that might contain such a rare type,
your best chances are in an area where stones of
the greatest terrestrial exposure age have been
found in the past.


Sterling K. Webb
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To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?


I also noticed, there are no Lunar meteorites recovered in the USA. 
Yet...


Does this still hold true?

Eric


On 8/23/2010 11:53 AM, Randy Korotev wrote:

Dear Eric:

My alphanumeric list contains 140 named stones,

http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm

with the caveat that some do not actually have official names yet 
(e.g., Unnamed 12).  They're on the list because I've analyzed them 
and know them to be lunar.  That's the main reason that my number, 
140, is larger than the MetBull number, 130.  It's my hope that all 
the unnamed get official names someday.


Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been 
recovered and classified, Ever?  Stones, yes; meteorites, no.


My composition-ordered list has only 68 meteorites because of known 
or strongly-suspected pairings.


http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alumina.htm

Norbert Classen keeps close tabs on this and has 67 on his list (he 
and I both know about one that is on my list but may not be on his 
list yet):


http://www.meteoris.de/luna/list.html

So, ~68 is the total number of known lunar meteorites.  That 
information is not easily available from the MetBull database.  It 
sometimes takes years to establish that different named stones are or 
are not paired.


A confusion for your calculations is that practically every 
individual lunar and martian meteorite stone gets it's own name and 
line-item in the MetBull database whereas all Allende stones have one 
name.


Randy




At 12:40 PM 8/23/2010 Monday, you wrote:

Hi List,

I know this has been talked about on-list but... I keep getting this 
question, or people that say they have found a Lunar meteorite. 
I'm wondering how many there actually are. I've heard numbers thrown 
about haphazardly, but no one has been able to give me a clear and 
concise answer.


The Met-Bull has ...130 records found for meteorites with 
historical types that contain Lunar...'


Does this mean there are 130 Lunar meteorites that have been 
recovered and classified, Ever? Or is my search flawed? (as a side 
note, it also says there are ...92 records found for meteorites 
with historical types that contain Martian...)


Dr. Randy Korotev's List of Lunar Meteorites on the Washinton 
University website has the number at 140. 
http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alpha.htm


Just for giggles I wanted to know how many total classified 
meteorites there actually were on the planet.


...39146 valid meteorite names; 11959 provisional names; 4589 
full-text writeups...


That's a whopping 51,105 classifications. Wow!

Doing some simple math, 130 Lunar meteorites out of 51,105 total 
classifications means that Lunars only makeup about 0.254% of the 
total number of meteorite ever classified. (0.180% for Martian 
meteorites).


Are these number correct?

Regards,
Eric

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Re: [meteorite-list] How Many Lunar Meteorites?

2010-08-23 Thread Steve Dunklee
another problem with finding lunar or any meteorite in north and south america 
is the mostly wet environment. AS any treasure hunter can confirm.objects at 
first on the surface are quickly burried if they are not burried by the impact. 
Coins lost 50 years ago are usually found 8to 10 inches deep. So without 
erosion or human activities like farming exposing them. There are few places to 
find any meteorites. Some day every class of meteorite will have been found 
everywhere. We just have to keep looking and have fun doing it. Cheers Steve


  

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[meteorite-list] How many lunar meteorites are there now?

2006-01-29 Thread Tim Heitz



Hello List,

How many lunar meteorites are there now? Last count 
I got wassome where around 100 to 120

Tim Heitz
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