Re: [meteorite-list] Looking for Happy meteorite goodness
Aloha Jason, Gao Chergach, Pultusk falls produced significantly less melt pieces than Chelyabinsk. My guess is you’d be lucky to find a Gao, Chergach or Pultusk IMB in 25-50 stones (or more), versus one in 3 for Chelyabinsk. Because of this, I do not believe researchers where aware of IMB, much less supplied IMB specimens for analysis at the time. I believe most meteoriticists are interested in IMB derivatives of meteorites to a degree or more, but they cannot characterize what they do not have in lab. Therefore no writeup on their reports in the Metbull. Secondarily, I notice that many early Metbull reports on meteorites were quite terse. gary On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Jason Utas wrote: > Hello All, > Gao, Chergach, Pultusk, and other ordinary chondrites often have their > impact melt portions ignored when being characterized. Chelyabinsk > would be the most recent obvious example of this -- "LL5 S4 W0" > Except, when you read the petrographic description: > > "...A significant portion (1/3) of the stones consist of a dark, > fine-grained impact melt containing mineral and chondrule fragments. > Feldspar is well developed and practically isotropic. No high-pressure > phases were found in the impact melt. There are black-colored thin > shock veins in both light and dark lithologies." > > http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=57165 > > We collectors see impact melt and think it's cool, but it's secondary > information for the classification, I think. > > Regards, > Jason > > www.fallsandfinds.com > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Jim Wooddell > wrote: >> On 10/30/2013 6:02 AM, Marc Fries wrote: >>> >>> Let me try that again with a more accurate Subject line... >>> Hi Marc! >> >> Looking at the pictures and the lack of information in the bulletin, this >> one would be worthy of another stab at classification! Happy (b) and (c) >> could use some new work too! >> >> >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> >>> On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Marc Fries wrote: >>> Howdy all I'm looking for a meteorite to buy or borrow for a scientific study. Does anyone have a piece of Happy(a)? It is listed as an H3 but appears to be an impact melt, at least in part. Please contact me off-list at mfri...@hotmail.com Cheers, Marc Fries >> >> >> -- >> Jim Wooddell >> jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net >> http://pages.suddenlink.net/chondrule/ >> >> >> __ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites Inc. PO Box 4175, Hilo, HI 96720 (808) 640-9161 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://www.ebay.com/sch/fujmon/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Looking for Happy meteorite goodness
Hi Jason and all! I think the description of the impact melt was sufficient for Chelyabinsk unless new information comes forward. However, with Happy, at least two of them are not fully classified, (b) and (c). All three Happy's are vague at best, unlike Chelyabinsk! It is one that could be revisited. Jim On 10/30/2013 3:00 PM, Jason Utas wrote: Hello All, Gao, Chergach, Pultusk, and other ordinary chondrites often have their impact melt portions ignored when being characterized. Chelyabinsk would be the most recent obvious example of this -- "LL5 S4 W0" Except, when you read the petrographic description: "...A significant portion (1/3) of the stones consist of a dark, fine-grained impact melt containing mineral and chondrule fragments. Feldspar is well developed and practically isotropic. No high-pressure phases were found in the impact melt. There are black-colored thin shock veins in both light and dark lithologies." http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=57165 We collectors see impact melt and think it's cool, but it's secondary information for the classification, I think. Regards, Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Jim Wooddell wrote: On 10/30/2013 6:02 AM, Marc Fries wrote: Let me try that again with a more accurate Subject line... Hi Marc! Looking at the pictures and the lack of information in the bulletin, this one would be worthy of another stab at classification! Happy (b) and (c) could use some new work too! Jim -- Jim Wooddell jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net http://pages.suddenlink.net/chondrule/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Looking for Happy meteorite goodness
Hello All, Gao, Chergach, Pultusk, and other ordinary chondrites often have their impact melt portions ignored when being characterized. Chelyabinsk would be the most recent obvious example of this -- "LL5 S4 W0" Except, when you read the petrographic description: "...A significant portion (1/3) of the stones consist of a dark, fine-grained impact melt containing mineral and chondrule fragments. Feldspar is well developed and practically isotropic. No high-pressure phases were found in the impact melt. There are black-colored thin shock veins in both light and dark lithologies." http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=57165 We collectors see impact melt and think it's cool, but it's secondary information for the classification, I think. Regards, Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Jim Wooddell wrote: > On 10/30/2013 6:02 AM, Marc Fries wrote: >> >> Let me try that again with a more accurate Subject line... >> Hi Marc! > > Looking at the pictures and the lack of information in the bulletin, this > one would be worthy of another stab at classification! Happy (b) and (c) > could use some new work too! > > > > Jim > > > > >> On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Marc Fries wrote: >> >>> Howdy all >>> >>> I'm looking for a meteorite to buy or borrow for a scientific study. >>> Does anyone have a piece of Happy(a)? It is listed as an H3 but appears to >>> be an impact melt, at least in part. Please contact me off-list at >>> mfri...@hotmail.com >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Marc Fries >>> > > > -- > Jim Wooddell > jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net > http://pages.suddenlink.net/chondrule/ > > > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Looking for Happy meteorite goodness
On 10/30/2013 6:02 AM, Marc Fries wrote: Let me try that again with a more accurate Subject line... Hi Marc! Looking at the pictures and the lack of information in the bulletin, this one would be worthy of another stab at classification! Happy (b) and (c) could use some new work too! Jim On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Marc Fries wrote: Howdy all I'm looking for a meteorite to buy or borrow for a scientific study. Does anyone have a piece of Happy(a)? It is listed as an H3 but appears to be an impact melt, at least in part. Please contact me off-list at mfri...@hotmail.com Cheers, Marc Fries -- Jim Wooddell jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net http://pages.suddenlink.net/chondrule/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Looking for Happy meteorite goodness
I do. See my collection gallery...near the center bottom of my home page Www.mhmeteorites.com Matt Marc Fries wrote: >Let me try that again with a more accurate Subject line... > >On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Marc Fries wrote: > >> Howdy all >> >> I'm looking for a meteorite to buy or borrow for a scientific >study. Does anyone have a piece of Happy(a)? It is listed as an H3 >but appears to be an impact melt, at least in part. Please contact me >off-list at mfri...@hotmail.com >> >> Cheers, >> Marc Fries >> __ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >__ > >Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites PO Box 151293 Lakewood CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com Find Us on Facebook __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Looking for Happy meteorite goodness
Let me try that again with a more accurate Subject line... On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Marc Fries wrote: > Howdy all > > I'm looking for a meteorite to buy or borrow for a scientific study. > Does anyone have a piece of Happy(a)? It is listed as an H3 but appears to > be an impact melt, at least in part. Please contact me off-list at > mfri...@hotmail.com > > Cheers, > Marc Fries > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
