Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473
Hi Bernd, I can confirm, that NWA 4808 and 4473 are paired (were classified at the same place). We didn't know, how to act correctly, as the owner of 4473, insisted in spring, that he wished, that we never should mention paired material in his possession or his name in our Ads. Like he seems to do too, when he has material for sale paired with ours, if I look here and there into ebay. NWA 4808 isn't listed in the Bulletin yet, therefore that little dilemma. Anyway it is fascinating material. Additionally to the observations you made, this meteorite has some more unusual aspects. So no eucritic components were found in those stones, but fragments of three different diogenitic precursors. Therefore it must have a somewhat unusual impact history. Our special was sold out the same day, we found a few more slices in our stock, now only 3 or 4 small ones are left. As small as NWA 4808 was, it was quite heterogeneous, macroscopically the slices were quite different from each other. If someone is looking for larger surfaces, I saw Mike Cottingham having NWA 4473 on ebay some weeks ago, perhaps he has some left. Am I the only one, who can't await, that Dawn will arrive at Vesta? Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 20:07 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473 Hello again, I just see that my piece of the NWA 4473 polymict diogenite that I purchased from Greg Hupé has some resemblance to NWA 4808 and both diogenites may possibly be paired. The only difference is that the crystal faces of the orthopyroxene mineral clasts in NWA 4473 are less well developed (in my piece!). In oher words, most pyroxene cystals in my NWA 4473 piece are anhedral and a few are subhedral. Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473
Hi Martin, and All, Actually, NWA 4808 can be found in the Meteoritical Bulletin Database, whereas just as a provisional entry. Have a look: http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php?code=45732 In any case, that's a fantastic diogenite! Best, Norbert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Hi Bernd, I can confirm, that NWA 4808 and 4473 are paired (were classified at the same place). We didn't know, how to act correctly, as the owner of 4473, insisted in spring, that he wished, that we never should mention paired material in his possession or his name in our Ads. Like he seems to do too, when he has material for sale paired with ours, if I look here and there into ebay. NWA 4808 isn't listed in the Bulletin yet, therefore that little dilemma. Anyway it is fascinating material. Additionally to the observations you made, this meteorite has some more unusual aspects. So no eucritic components were found in those stones, but fragments of three different diogenitic precursors. Therefore it must have a somewhat unusual impact history. Our special was sold out the same day, we found a few more slices in our stock, now only 3 or 4 small ones are left. As small as NWA 4808 was, it was quite heterogeneous, macroscopically the slices were quite different from each other. If someone is looking for larger surfaces, I saw Mike Cottingham having NWA 4473 on ebay some weeks ago, perhaps he has some left. Am I the only one, who can't await, that Dawn will arrive at Vesta? Best! Martin __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473
Fine! Must have been implemented these days, as I find there now also some of our very recent numbers already listed! That database is the best invention for the recent 10 years for the collectors! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Norbert Classen Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Oktober 2007 14:11 An: 'Martin Altmann'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473 Hi Martin, and All, Actually, NWA 4808 can be found in the Meteoritical Bulletin Database, whereas just as a provisional entry. Have a look: http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php?code=45732 In any case, that's a fantastic diogenite! Best, Norbert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Hi Bernd, I can confirm, that NWA 4808 and 4473 are paired (were classified at the same place). We didn't know, how to act correctly, as the owner of 4473, insisted in spring, that he wished, that we never should mention paired material in his possession or his name in our Ads. Like he seems to do too, when he has material for sale paired with ours, if I look here and there into ebay. NWA 4808 isn't listed in the Bulletin yet, therefore that little dilemma. Anyway it is fascinating material. Additionally to the observations you made, this meteorite has some more unusual aspects. So no eucritic components were found in those stones, but fragments of three different diogenitic precursors. Therefore it must have a somewhat unusual impact history. Our special was sold out the same day, we found a few more slices in our stock, now only 3 or 4 small ones are left. As small as NWA 4808 was, it was quite heterogeneous, macroscopically the slices were quite different from each other. If someone is looking for larger surfaces, I saw Mike Cottingham having NWA 4473 on ebay some weeks ago, perhaps he has some left. Am I the only one, who can't await, that Dawn will arrive at Vesta? Best! Martin __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473
Hi Martin, You wrote, We didn't know, how to act correctly, as the owner of 4473, insisted in spring, that he wished, that we never should mention paired material in his possession or his name in our Ads. I simply stated do not use my numbers and to get your own numbers before stating pairings. Just keepin' it real. Best regards, Greg P.S I have plenty of NWA 4473, cut/polished and individuals. I supplied Michael Cottingham with his 4473. Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473 Hi Bernd, I can confirm, that NWA 4808 and 4473 are paired (were classified at the same place). We didn't know, how to act correctly, as the owner of 4473, insisted in spring, that he wished, that we never should mention paired material in his possession or his name in our Ads. Like he seems to do too, when he has material for sale paired with ours, if I look here and there into ebay. NWA 4808 isn't listed in the Bulletin yet, therefore that little dilemma. Anyway it is fascinating material. Additionally to the observations you made, this meteorite has some more unusual aspects. So no eucritic components were found in those stones, but fragments of three different diogenitic precursors. Therefore it must have a somewhat unusual impact history. Our special was sold out the same day, we found a few more slices in our stock, now only 3 or 4 small ones are left. As small as NWA 4808 was, it was quite heterogeneous, macroscopically the slices were quite different from each other. If someone is looking for larger surfaces, I saw Mike Cottingham having NWA 4473 on ebay some weeks ago, perhaps he has some left. Am I the only one, who can't await, that Dawn will arrive at Vesta? Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 20:07 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473 Hello again, I just see that my piece of the NWA 4473 polymict diogenite that I purchased from Greg Hupé has some resemblance to NWA 4808 and both diogenites may possibly be paired. The only difference is that the crystal faces of the orthopyroxene mineral clasts in NWA 4473 are less well developed (in my piece!). In oher words, most pyroxene cystals in my NWA 4473 piece are anhedral and a few are subhedral. Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473
Hello Martin, Must be a show coming up soon (Munich), otherwise, why all the targeted talk of pairings? Maybe you have something else paired to one of mine that you are itching to announce? For fun, with some of my own 'new' classifications, maybe you will have a new goal to try and find a pairing to them. That would be a good thing since what I will be announcing soon enough would be very, very nice for your collection. I should consider your posturing as a form of flattery, so that is how I will take it. Go get 'em, tiger! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Greg Hupe' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 5:50 PM Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473 In our case it was different, as we always had our own numbers and are no selfpairers. So if it's no problem any longer, we can state known pairings again. Best, Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Greg Hupe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Oktober 2007 23:27 An: Martin Altmann Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473 Hi Martin, You wrote, We didn't know, how to act correctly, as the owner of 4473, insisted in spring, that he wished, that we never should mention paired material in his possession or his name in our Ads. I simply stated do not use my numbers and to get your own numbers before stating pairings. Just keepin' it real. Best regards, Greg P.S I have plenty of NWA 4473, cut/polished and individuals. I supplied Michael Cottingham with his 4473. Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473 Hi Bernd, I can confirm, that NWA 4808 and 4473 are paired (were classified at the same place). We didn't know, how to act correctly, as the owner of 4473, insisted in spring, that he wished, that we never should mention paired material in his possession or his name in our Ads. Like he seems to do too, when he has material for sale paired with ours, if I look here and there into ebay. NWA 4808 isn't listed in the Bulletin yet, therefore that little dilemma. Anyway it is fascinating material. Additionally to the observations you made, this meteorite has some more unusual aspects. So no eucritic components were found in those stones, but fragments of three different diogenitic precursors. Therefore it must have a somewhat unusual impact history. Our special was sold out the same day, we found a few more slices in our stock, now only 3 or 4 small ones are left. As small as NWA 4808 was, it was quite heterogeneous, macroscopically the slices were quite different from each other. If someone is looking for larger surfaces, I saw Mike Cottingham having NWA 4473 on ebay some weeks ago, perhaps he has some left. Am I the only one, who can't await, that Dawn will arrive at Vesta? Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 20:07 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473 Hello again, I just see that my piece of the NWA 4473 polymict diogenite that I purchased from Greg Hupé has some resemblance to NWA 4808 and both diogenites may possibly be paired. The only difference is that the crystal faces of the orthopyroxene mineral clasts in NWA 4473 are less well developed (in my piece!). In oher words, most pyroxene cystals in my NWA 4473 piece are anhedral and a few are subhedral. Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473
Hi Greg, Flattery? We are already spoken for, no chance for bits on the side.. For fun, with some of my own 'new' classifications, maybe you will have a new goal to try and find a pairing to them. Maybe, but then rather by accident. Show them! On the other hand, we will present some stones in Munich, where even you will be eager too, to find some pairings as soon as possible, cause they are so bizarre stuff. Anyway, paradisiac times for the collector and the more the dealers compete and prod each other to find the rarest grails of our solar system the better for him! Right, Munich is knocking on the door, who will be there? Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Greg Hupe Gesendet: Montag, 22. Oktober 2007 00:18 An: Martin Altmann Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473 Hello Martin, Must be a show coming up soon (Munich), otherwise, why all the targeted talk of pairings? Maybe you have something else paired to one of mine that you are itching to announce? For fun, with some of my own 'new' classifications, maybe you will have a new goal to try and find a pairing to them. That would be a good thing since what I will be announcing soon enough would be very, very nice for your collection. I should consider your posturing as a form of c, so that is how I will take it. Go get 'em, tiger! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Greg Hupe' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 5:50 PM Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473 In our case it was different, as we always had our own numbers and are no selfpairers. So if it's no problem any longer, we can state known pairings again. Best, Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Greg Hupe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Oktober 2007 23:27 An: Martin Altmann Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473 Hi Martin, You wrote, We didn't know, how to act correctly, as the owner of 4473, insisted in spring, that he wished, that we never should mention paired material in his possession or his name in our Ads. I simply stated do not use my numbers and to get your own numbers before stating pairings. Just keepin' it real. Best regards, Greg P.S I have plenty of NWA 4473, cut/polished and individuals. I supplied Michael Cottingham with his 4473. Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473 Hi Bernd, I can confirm, that NWA 4808 and 4473 are paired (were classified at the same place). We didn't know, how to act correctly, as the owner of 4473, insisted in spring, that he wished, that we never should mention paired material in his possession or his name in our Ads. Like he seems to do too, when he has material for sale paired with ours, if I look here and there into ebay. NWA 4808 isn't listed in the Bulletin yet, therefore that little dilemma. Anyway it is fascinating material. Additionally to the observations you made, this meteorite has some more unusual aspects. So no eucritic components were found in those stones, but fragments of three different diogenitic precursors. Therefore it must have a somewhat unusual impact history. Our special was sold out the same day, we found a few more slices in our stock, now only 3 or 4 small ones are left. As small as NWA 4808 was, it was quite heterogeneous, macroscopically the slices were quite different from each other. If someone is looking for larger surfaces, I saw Mike Cottingham having NWA 4473 on ebay some weeks ago, perhaps he has some left. Am I the only one, who can't await, that Dawn will arrive at Vesta? Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 20:07 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473 Hello again, I just see that my piece of the NWA 4473 polymict diogenite that I purchased from Greg Hupé has some resemblance to NWA 4808 and both diogenites may possibly be paired. The only difference is that the crystal faces of the orthopyroxene mineral clasts in NWA 4473 are less well developed (in my piece!). In oher words, most pyroxene cystals in my NWA 4473 piece are anhedral and a few are subhedral
[meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473
Hello again, I just see that my piece of the NWA 4473 polymict diogenite that I purchased from Greg Hupé has some resemblance to NWA 4808 and both diogenites may possibly be paired. The only difference is that the crystal faces of the orthopyroxene mineral clasts in NWA 4473 are less well developed (in my piece!). In oher words, most pyroxene cystals in my NWA 4473 piece are anhedral and a few are subhedral. Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
