Re: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite
I saw the photo, read the description and then the researcher's comments-- saw that NASA was involved and well and I couldn't help thinking of a moose turd variety meteorwrong. The fact that this photo isn't an actual photo of the find suggests that this isn't a hoax so much as a fireball observer pretending to be an expert in meteorites. It was recovered by physicians??? do tell. How and Why were they given fireball data that no one else was given? and who the heck were they? Wasn't there a case in recent memory where a NASA "expert" misidentified a "meteorite" er a piece of asphalt er a meteorite then laid claim to all the glory himself?(Rhetorical) NASA Meteoroid office does not disclose fireball data to the public against their charter but instead grabs whomever is not busy and heads off to do their own search. It takes 3-6 months to get a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) accknowledged little alone answered. So here is yet another example of our tax money going to support elitist agencies and individuals excluding the public at large. Many may think NASA personnel must be all knowing experts on everything and, in their niche fields they are close to that. Outside their field, they probably know less about meteorite recovery than most novices on this list. I think I'll wait for the "final final" answer on the "microbes". IF there were real live microbes then they would be in a level 4 containment. Well maybe not as there isn't much cross fertilization between the CDC and NASA. However there is a protocol and facility in place. That said, if we hear of zombies crossing the US Canadian Border I hope our current Administration doesn't just wave them through thinking they are more dead voters than we already have. Elton On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 10:40 AM, Gaetan Cormier wrote: Well I was maybe excited for nothing.. this is probably a hoax. The photo they used to show the meteorite is also found in an article about antartic meteorites dated back in 2013: http://www.artsci.utoronto.ca/main/newsitems/ray-jayawardhana-antarctica Oh well Gaetan Cormier GC Meteorites: http://gcmeteorites.blogspot.com Member of the Impact Field Studies Group http://web.eps.utk.edu/~faculty/ifsg.htm 2014-04-09 10:11 GMT-04:00 Gaetan Cormier : > The fiereball that occured on the evening of March 18th @ 10:24pm over > Ontario has produced meteorites as some was found with a surprise in > it! > > http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/canada-extraterrestrial-lifeforms-discovered-in-meteorite-debris/ > > Gaetan Cormier > GC Meteorites: http://gcmeteorites.blogspot.com > Member of the Impact Field Studies Group > http://web.eps.utk.edu/~faculty/ifsg.htm __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite
There is one more overlooked obvious answer I didn't cover in my treatise on Government agencies -- Worldnewsdailyreport.com where this article appeared is apparently a fusion of The National Enquirer and The Onion.com-- both known for stories on Bigfoot Alien hybrid babies, crop circles,Elvis reincarnate, Planet X and such. Whomever wrote the article knew a lot about the personalities involved and took the time to locate a good photo. It is funny, now. Elton On Thursday, April 10, 2014 2:09 AM, MEM wrote: I saw the photo, read the description and then the researcher's comments-- saw that NASA was involved and well and I couldn't help thinking of a moose turd variety meteorwrong. The fact that this photo isn't an actual photo of the find suggests that this isn't a hoax so much as a fireball observer pretending to be an expert in meteorites. It was recovered by physicians??? do tell. How and Why were they given fireball data that no one else was given? and who the heck were they? Wasn't there a case in recent memory where a NASA "expert" misidentified a "meteorite" er a piece of asphalt er a meteorite then laid claim to all the glory himself?(Rhetorical) NASA Meteoroid office does not disclose fireball data to the public against their charter but instead grabs whomever is not busy and heads off to do their own search. It takes 3-6 months to get a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) accknowledged little alone answered. So here is yet another example of our tax money going to support elitist agencies and individuals excluding the public at large. Many may think NASA personnel must be all knowing experts on everything and, in their niche fields they are close to that. Outside their field, they probably know less about meteorite recovery than most novices on this list. I think I'll wait for the "final final" answer on the "microbes". IF there were real live microbes then they would be in a level 4 containment. Well maybe not as there isn't much cross fertilization between the CDC and NASA. However there is a protocol and facility in place. That said, if we hear of zombies crossing the US Canadian Border I hope our current Administration doesn't just wave them through thinking they are more dead voters than we already have. Elton On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 10:40 AM, Gaetan Cormier wrote: Well I was maybe excited for nothing.. this is probably a hoax. The photo they used to show the meteorite is also found in an article about antartic meteorites dated back in 2013: http://www.artsci.utoronto.ca/main/newsitems/ray-jayawardhana-antarctica Oh well Gaetan Cormier GC Meteorites: http://gcmeteorites.blogspot.com Member of the Impact Field Studies Group http://web.eps.utk.edu/~faculty/ifsg.htm 2014-04-09 10:11 GMT-04:00 Gaetan Cormier : > The fiereball that occured on the evening of March 18th @ 10:24pm over > Ontario has produced meteorites as some was found with a surprise in > it! > > http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/canada-extraterrestrial-lifeforms-discovered-in-meteorite-debris/ > > Gaetan Cormier > GC Meteorites: http://gcmeteorites.blogspot.com > Member of the Impact Field Studies Group > http://web.eps.utk.edu/~faculty/ifsg.htm __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite
Well I was maybe excited for nothing.. this is probably a hoax. The photo they used to show the meteorite is also found in an article about antartic meteorites dated back in 2013: http://www.artsci.utoronto.ca/main/newsitems/ray-jayawardhana-antarctica Oh well Gaetan Cormier GC Meteorites: http://gcmeteorites.blogspot.com Member of the Impact Field Studies Group http://web.eps.utk.edu/~faculty/ifsg.htm 2014-04-09 10:11 GMT-04:00 Gaetan Cormier : > The fiereball that occured on the evening of March 18th @ 10:24pm over > Ontario has produced meteorites as some was found with a surprise in > it! > > http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/canada-extraterrestrial-lifeforms-discovered-in-meteorite-debris/ > > Gaetan Cormier > GC Meteorites: http://gcmeteorites.blogspot.com > Member of the Impact Field Studies Group > http://web.eps.utk.edu/~faculty/ifsg.htm __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite
The fiereball that occured on the evening of March 18th @ 10:24pm over Ontario has produced meteorites as some was found with a surprise in it! http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/canada-extraterrestrial-lifeforms-discovered-in-meteorite-debris/ Gaetan Cormier GC Meteorites: http://gcmeteorites.blogspot.com Member of the Impact Field Studies Group http://web.eps.utk.edu/~faculty/ifsg.htm __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite for sale
Hi, all, I may have missed it in a past post, but has the new Canadian meteorite been given a fall name yet? Cheers, Pete > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 20:30:29 -0500 > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite for sale > > Maybe that someone isn't getting it...wow. Sonny and McCartney, if the > market is willing to pay you $50,000 for your recoveries, congrats on a job > well done. > Dave > www.fallingrocks.com > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Utas > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 6:52 PM > To: Meteorite-list > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite for sale > > ...And what's that supposed to mean? > > > On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:41 PM, wrote: >> Geez Jason, >> >> You must be on restriction or something! >> >> Sonny >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Jason Utas >> To: Meteorite-list >> Sent: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 3:11 pm >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite for sale >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hola, >> I've heard that you fellows fetched over a kilogram. >> $50/g isn't a bad price for you to set, considering that you both >> probably spent less than $1,500 all told for the trip, each. >> I mean, it's not like you had to deal with any dangers or risk. You >> left when you knew meteorites had been found, and travelled to a safe, >> civilized location. I suppose there might have been a risk in not >> being allowed to search private land, but, honestly...that's not >> stopped any hunters I know on this list. >> Anyway, it sounds like nice material. Like every other fresh fall >> from the past...well, since forever. >> As to your stating that you "would say it is up to the individuals >> that took the time and effort to get out in the field to do the >> recovery work," well, fine. I just wonder why the hunters who went to >> Kilabo, Bensour, Thuathe, Chergach, Bassikounou, and even Park Forest, >> charged substantially less than you are supposedly asking for this >> fall. >> As your friend, fellow hunter, and prospective customer, I'd like to >> know why. Because it looks like you're set to make $25,000 off of >> this, along with McCartney (another $25,000). Why do I, and other >> meteorite collectors, owe you that? >> Regards, >> Jason >> >> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:14 PM, wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I would have responded earlier but our Internet connection was not >> >> the >>> >>> best. We just flew in from Canada today. What is a fair price per >> >> gram? I >>> >>> would say it is up to the individuals that took the time and effort >> >> to get >>> >>> out in the field to do the recovery work. I knew before leaving home >> >> that if >>> >>> we were lucky enough to find any material that we would have to leave >> >> it in >>> >>> Canada and go through the proper channels to obtain this legally. >> >> Most of >>> >>> the area where the fall took place has been locked up with NO >> >> TRESPASSING >>> >>> signs posted. We were fortunate enough to negotiate a deal with the >> >> owners >>> >>> of some private property. We have been told the chances of any >> >> material >>> >>> leaving Canada with a permit is almost impossible. How nice would it >> >> be to >>> >>> have a new Canadian meteorite from a witnessed fall with proper >>> documentation? This is my first time to pick up a meteorite as fresh >> >> as >>> >>> this. You can almost rub off the fusion crust and the interior is >> >> bright >>> >>> white. I will have a picture showing the interior of the meteorite >> >> posted >>> >>> within the next couple of days. So lets keep our fingers crossed to >> >> have >>> >>> these meteorites in the U.S.A within 6 months to a year. I was >> >> thinking >>> >>> about playing a joke on Mccartney and placing a meteorite in his >> >> backpack to >>> >>> see if he could make it through customs and once we made it into the >> >> U.S.A >>> >>> telling McCartn
Re: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite for sale
Maybe that someone isn't getting it...wow. Sonny and McCartney, if the market is willing to pay you $50,000 for your recoveries, congrats on a job well done. Dave www.fallingrocks.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Utas Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 6:52 PM To: Meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite for sale ...And what's that supposed to mean? On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:41 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Geez Jason, > > You must be on restriction or something! > > Sonny > > > > -Original Message- > From: Jason Utas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Meteorite-list > Sent: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 3:11 pm > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite for sale > > > > > > > Hola, > I've heard that you fellows fetched over a kilogram. > $50/g isn't a bad price for you to set, considering that you both > probably spent less than $1,500 all told for the trip, each. > I mean, it's not like you had to deal with any dangers or risk. You > left when you knew meteorites had been found, and travelled to a safe, > civilized location. I suppose there might have been a risk in not > being allowed to search private land, but, honestly...that's not > stopped any hunters I know on this list. > Anyway, it sounds like nice material. Like every other fresh fall > from the past...well, since forever. > As to your stating that you "would say it is up to the individuals > that took the time and effort to get out in the field to do the > recovery work," well, fine. I just wonder why the hunters who went to > Kilabo, Bensour, Thuathe, Chergach, Bassikounou, and even Park Forest, > charged substantially less than you are supposedly asking for this > fall. > As your friend, fellow hunter, and prospective customer, I'd like to > know why. Because it looks like you're set to make $25,000 off of > this, along with McCartney (another $25,000). Why do I, and other > meteorite collectors, owe you that? > Regards, > Jason > > On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:14 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> I would have responded earlier but our Internet connection was not > > the >> >> best. We just flew in from Canada today. What is a fair price per > > gram? I >> >> would say it is up to the individuals that took the time and effort > > to get >> >> out in the field to do the recovery work. I knew before leaving home > > that if >> >> we were lucky enough to find any material that we would have to leave > > it in >> >> Canada and go through the proper channels to obtain this legally. > > Most of >> >> the area where the fall took place has been locked up with NO > > TRESPASSING >> >> signs posted. We were fortunate enough to negotiate a deal with the > > owners >> >> of some private property. We have been told the chances of any > > material >> >> leaving Canada with a permit is almost impossible. How nice would it > > be to >> >> have a new Canadian meteorite from a witnessed fall with proper >> documentation? This is my first time to pick up a meteorite as fresh > > as >> >> this. You can almost rub off the fusion crust and the interior is > > bright >> >> white. I will have a picture showing the interior of the meteorite > > posted >> >> within the next couple of days. So lets keep our fingers crossed to > > have >> >> these meteorites in the U.S.A within 6 months to a year. I was > > thinking >> >> about playing a joke on Mccartney and placing a meteorite in his > > backpack to >> >> see if he could make it through customs and once we made it into the > > U.S.A >> >> telling McCartney "Hey half of the meteorite is mine!" Just teasing. >> >> >> Thanks, >> Sonny >> __ >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite for sale
OK, I understand that everyone is welcome to discuss freely on this list, but for the love of god people.. enough is enough. We won't see anything (legal) from this fall here in the U.S. for a good 6 months, atleast. When (and if) those guys get permits to export the material they found, I am sure they are quite capable of photographing, cataloging, and determining fair prices for their loot based off of the expenses they incured as a result of the trip, pysical labor.. plus room for profit (well deserved). Ryan -Original Message- From: Jason Utas To: Meteorite-list Sent: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 3:11 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite for sale Hola, I've heard that you fellows fetched over a kilogram. $50/g isn't a bad price for you to set, considering that you both probably spent less than $1,500 all told for the trip, each. I mean, it's not like you had to deal with any dangers or risk. You left when you knew meteorites had been found, and travelled to a safe, civilized location. I suppose there might have been a risk in not being allowed to search private land, but, honestly...that's not stopped any hunters I know on this list. Anyway, it sounds like nice material. Like every other fresh fall from the past...well, since forever. As to your stating that you "would say it is up to the individuals that took the time and effort to get out in the field to do the recovery work," well, fine. I just wonder why the hunters who went to Kilabo, Bensour, Thuathe, Chergach, Bassikounou, and even Park Forest, charged substantially less than you are supposedly asking for this fall. As your friend, fellow hunter, and prospective customer, I'd like to know why. Because it looks like you're set to make $25,000 off of this, along with McCartney (another $25,000). Why do I, and other meteorite collectors, owe you that? Regards, Jason On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:14 PM, wrote: > Hi All, > > I would have responded earlier but our Internet connection was not the > best. We just flew in from Canada today. What is a fair price per gram? I > would say it is up to the individuals that took the time and effort to get > out in the field to do the recovery work. I knew before leaving home that if > we were lucky enough to find any material that we would have to leave it in > Canada and go through the proper channels to obtain this legally. Most of > the area where the fall took place has been locked up with NO TRESPASSING > signs posted. We were fortunate enough to negotiate a deal with the owners > of some private property. We have been told the chances of any material > leaving Canada with a permit is almost impossible. How nice would it be to > have a new Canadian meteorite from a witnessed fall with proper > documentation? This is my first time to pick up a meteorite as fresh as > this. You can almost rub off the fusion crust and the interior is bright > white. I will have a picture showing the interior of the meteorite posted > within the next couple of days. So lets keep our fingers crossed to have > these meteorites in the U.S.A within 6 months to a year. I was thinking > about playing a joke on Mccartney and placing a meteorite in his backpack to > see if he could make it through customs and once we made it into the U.S.A > telling McCartney "Hey half of the meteorite is mine!" Just teasing. > > > Thanks, > Sonny > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite for sale
...And what's that supposed to mean? On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:41 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Geez Jason, > > You must be on restriction or something! > > Sonny > > > > -Original Message- > From: Jason Utas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Meteorite-list > Sent: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 3:11 pm > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite for sale > > > > > > > Hola, > I've heard that you fellows fetched over a kilogram. > $50/g isn't a bad price for you to set, considering that you both > probably spent less than $1,500 all told for the trip, each. > I mean, it's not like you had to deal with any dangers or risk. You > left when you knew meteorites had been found, and travelled to a safe, > civilized location. I suppose there might have been a risk in not > being allowed to search private land, but, honestly...that's not > stopped any hunters I know on this list. > Anyway, it sounds like nice material. Like every other fresh fall > from the past...well, since forever. > As to your stating that you "would say it is up to the individuals > that took the time and effort to get out in the field to do the > recovery work," well, fine. I just wonder why the hunters who went to > Kilabo, Bensour, Thuathe, Chergach, Bassikounou, and even Park Forest, > charged substantially less than you are supposedly asking for this > fall. > As your friend, fellow hunter, and prospective customer, I'd like to > know why. Because it looks like you're set to make $25,000 off of > this, along with McCartney (another $25,000). Why do I, and other > meteorite collectors, owe you that? > Regards, > Jason > > On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:14 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> I would have responded earlier but our Internet connection was not > > the >> >> best. We just flew in from Canada today. What is a fair price per > > gram? I >> >> would say it is up to the individuals that took the time and effort > > to get >> >> out in the field to do the recovery work. I knew before leaving home > > that if >> >> we were lucky enough to find any material that we would have to leave > > it in >> >> Canada and go through the proper channels to obtain this legally. > > Most of >> >> the area where the fall took place has been locked up with NO > > TRESPASSING >> >> signs posted. We were fortunate enough to negotiate a deal with the > > owners >> >> of some private property. We have been told the chances of any > > material >> >> leaving Canada with a permit is almost impossible. How nice would it > > be to >> >> have a new Canadian meteorite from a witnessed fall with proper >> documentation? This is my first time to pick up a meteorite as fresh > > as >> >> this. You can almost rub off the fusion crust and the interior is > > bright >> >> white. I will have a picture showing the interior of the meteorite > > posted >> >> within the next couple of days. So lets keep our fingers crossed to > > have >> >> these meteorites in the U.S.A within 6 months to a year. I was > > thinking >> >> about playing a joke on Mccartney and placing a meteorite in his > > backpack to >> >> see if he could make it through customs and once we made it into the > > U.S.A >> >> telling McCartney "Hey half of the meteorite is mine!" Just teasing. >> >> >> Thanks, >> Sonny >> __ >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite for sale
Geez Jason, You must be on restriction or something! Sonny -Original Message- From: Jason Utas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Meteorite-list Sent: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 3:11 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite for sale Hola, I've heard that you fellows fetched over a kilogram. $50/g isn't a bad price for you to set, considering that you both probably spent less than $1,500 all told for the trip, each. I mean, it's not like you had to deal with any dangers or risk. You left when you knew meteorites had been found, and travelled to a safe, civilized location. I suppose there might have been a risk in not being allowed to search private land, but, honestly...that's not stopped any hunters I know on this list. Anyway, it sounds like nice material. Like every other fresh fall from the past...well, since forever. As to your stating that you "would say it is up to the individuals that took the time and effort to get out in the field to do the recovery work," well, fine. I just wonder why the hunters who went to Kilabo, Bensour, Thuathe, Chergach, Bassikounou, and even Park Forest, charged substantially less than you are supposedly asking for this fall. As your friend, fellow hunter, and prospective customer, I'd like to know why. Because it looks like you're set to make $25,000 off of this, along with McCartney (another $25,000). Why do I, and other meteorite collectors, owe you that? Regards, Jason On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:14 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi All, I would have responded earlier but our Internet connection was not the best. We just flew in from Canada today. What is a fair price per gram? I would say it is up to the individuals that took the time and effort to get out in the field to do the recovery work. I knew before leaving home that if we were lucky enough to find any material that we would have to leave it in Canada and go through the proper channels to obtain this legally. Most of the area where the fall took place has been locked up with NO TRESPASSING signs posted. We were fortunate enough to negotiate a deal with the owners of some private property. We have been told the chances of any material leaving Canada with a permit is almost impossible. How nice would it be to have a new Canadian meteorite from a witnessed fall with proper documentation? This is my first time to pick up a meteorite as fresh as this. You can almost rub off the fusion crust and the interior is bright white. I will have a picture showing the interior of the meteorite posted within the next couple of days. So lets keep our fingers crossed to have these meteorites in the U.S.A within 6 months to a year. I was thinking about playing a joke on Mccartney and placing a meteorite in his backpack to see if he could make it through customs and once we made it into the U.S.A telling McCartney "Hey half of the meteorite is mine!" Just teasing. Thanks, Sonny __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite for sale
Hola, I've heard that you fellows fetched over a kilogram. $50/g isn't a bad price for you to set, considering that you both probably spent less than $1,500 all told for the trip, each. I mean, it's not like you had to deal with any dangers or risk. You left when you knew meteorites had been found, and travelled to a safe, civilized location. I suppose there might have been a risk in not being allowed to search private land, but, honestly...that's not stopped any hunters I know on this list. Anyway, it sounds like nice material. Like every other fresh fall from the past...well, since forever. As to your stating that you "would say it is up to the individuals that took the time and effort to get out in the field to do the recovery work," well, fine. I just wonder why the hunters who went to Kilabo, Bensour, Thuathe, Chergach, Bassikounou, and even Park Forest, charged substantially less than you are supposedly asking for this fall. As your friend, fellow hunter, and prospective customer, I'd like to know why. Because it looks like you're set to make $25,000 off of this, along with McCartney (another $25,000). Why do I, and other meteorite collectors, owe you that? Regards, Jason On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:14 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > I would have responded earlier but our Internet connection was not the > best. We just flew in from Canada today. What is a fair price per gram? I > would say it is up to the individuals that took the time and effort to get > out in the field to do the recovery work. I knew before leaving home that if > we were lucky enough to find any material that we would have to leave it in > Canada and go through the proper channels to obtain this legally. Most of > the area where the fall took place has been locked up with NO TRESPASSING > signs posted. We were fortunate enough to negotiate a deal with the owners > of some private property. We have been told the chances of any material > leaving Canada with a permit is almost impossible. How nice would it be to > have a new Canadian meteorite from a witnessed fall with proper > documentation? This is my first time to pick up a meteorite as fresh as > this. You can almost rub off the fusion crust and the interior is bright > white. I will have a picture showing the interior of the meteorite posted > within the next couple of days. So lets keep our fingers crossed to have > these meteorites in the U.S.A within 6 months to a year. I was thinking > about playing a joke on Mccartney and placing a meteorite in his backpack to > see if he could make it through customs and once we made it into the U.S.A > telling McCartney "Hey half of the meteorite is mine!" Just teasing. > > > Thanks, > Sonny > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite for sale
Hi All, I would have responded earlier but our Internet connection was not the best. We just flew in from Canada today. What is a fair price per gram? I would say it is up to the individuals that took the time and effort to get out in the field to do the recovery work. I knew before leaving home that if we were lucky enough to find any material that we would have to leave it in Canada and go through the proper channels to obtain this legally. Most of the area where the fall took place has been locked up with NO TRESPASSING signs posted. We were fortunate enough to negotiate a deal with the owners of some private property. We have been told the chances of any material leaving Canada with a permit is almost impossible. How nice would it be to have a new Canadian meteorite from a witnessed fall with proper documentation? This is my first time to pick up a meteorite as fresh as this. You can almost rub off the fusion crust and the interior is bright white. I will have a picture showing the interior of the meteorite posted within the next couple of days. So lets keep our fingers crossed to have these meteorites in the U.S.A within 6 months to a year. I was thinking about playing a joke on Mccartney and placing a meteorite in his backpack to see if he could make it through customs and once we made it into the U.S.A telling McCartney "Hey half of the meteorite is mine!" Just teasing. Thanks, Sonny __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite
Greg and All, I agree Greg, and likewise I hope the Canadian Government Researchers are making their GPS coordinates of all their finds available to private hunters so that the private hunters can compile data into their GPS units to be able to get all the meteorites recovered from within the strewnfield. I totally agree with Greg, this is a great opportunity for scientists, hunters and collectors to work together. In fact, if the government employees would publicly state how much they would be willing to buy, and at what price they will pay, agreeing to let the rest go through the export permit process without challenge would be a great help too. If local land owners and hunters would know what the values would be, then better decisions could be made for everyone involved. Quotes in the newspapers that there "could be millions of dollars of meteorites on the ground" and that a head sized rock "could be worth $50,000" or that a "1 kilo rock is worth $10,000" is all nice, but it is so vague as to what the real values are that I am sure the locals are a bit confused right now. Letting the locals cash in on the finds will only help more Canadians in future falls get excited about going out and hunting too. It will turn out bad if all the locals think that if 500,000 g are found that they can automatically expect to get $5,000,000 (or more) out of it, then the government ends up only buying a kilo's worth and then no one else is interested in paying anything 6 months from now because a new fall (or 2 or 3) will have diverted everyone's attention elsewhere. Letting all the kilos of Tagish Lake fall to the bottom of the lake when the thaw came was an embarrassment for all the people claiming they were "acting in the best interest of science by not sharing the information." Here is their chance to redeem themselves, while the world is watching. If there is indeed thousands of stones, weighing hundreds of kilos total, there is no way a single college professor/researcher will be able to hunt the entire strewnfield... even if he took a 10 year sabbatical to keep hunting. But with cooperation with the private hunters, there is a chance that many if not most could be found in a short period of time, maybe in a year or two. We will see what happens... Steve Arnold #1 www.SteveArnoldMeteorites.com In a message dated 12/5/2008 12:46:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello All, I hope all who are finding material from the new Canadian meteorite fall are sending their GPS coordinates to the investigating scientists so they can compile the data into their databases to get the best possible length and width of the strewnfield. Not only that, it is a great opportunity for scientists, hunters and collectors to work together! Congratulations to Sonny, McCartney and all who have already found some of this new chondrite!! Best regards, Greg **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom0010) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite
Hello All, I hope all who are finding material from the new Canadian meteorite fall are sending their GPS coordinates to the investigating scientists so they can compile the data into their databases to get the best possible length and width of the strewnfield. Not only that, it is a great opportunity for scientists, hunters and collectors to work together! Congratulations to Sonny, McCartney and all who have already found some of this new chondrite!! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad New Canadian Meteorite for sale This is where pricing becomes difficult. Carancas was an extraordinary event. Very little material found, half of what was found was dust. $100 gram was a fair price, as I sold out at that price in hours. The 13 kilo piece of the Canadian fall weighs as much as nearly all of the Carancas found. Some pieces sell cheap now because people in Peru and Bolivia held too long, waiting for more money, while I and others filled up all buyers and museums, now there is not the demand because everyone already has it. Canada is a widespread fall, apparently everyone and their brother up there has found stones, so they will start trickling out. The videos make this fall a must have. I am not trying to set a price, just mulling over the last decade of falls and the price outcomes and this is where I see it ending up. Depends of course on export etc, but Canadian government will not spend millions of this chondrite. Tagish was a different creature, rarest meteorite almost that ever fell. We will see, it will take months to get export permits, time for TKW etc to firm up and tell us more. mike --- On Fri, 12/5/08, Greg Catterton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Greg Catterton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad New Canadian Meteorite for sale To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 11:15 AM I agree 100% on this. $50 per gram is too high, the Carancas for example was $100 per gram at first, now it can be had for under $20 per gram. I have read several places that it is only valued at $1 - $10 per gram. I will wait a bit myself. Greg --- On Fri, 12/5/08, Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad New Canadian Meteorite for sale > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 1:10 PM > This meteorite will end up with a retail value of ~$10 gram > or so, give or take a few $ and perhaps $25 gram for small > stones. There will be a huge amount of this meteorite found, > the videos show every local schoolkid walking around with > meteorites, and the real hunting hasnt even started yet. The > snow is about to fall, putting the meteorite in deep freeze. > Most of us hunters are talking and planning major hunts for > springtime when the thaw comes. > I forsee at least a few hundred kilos of stones being > found. > Canada will allow export of stones, that wont be a problem > for a common chondrite, since the government will have > plenty of material. > Kudos to Sonny and McCartney, but the price will not be set > be a single sale. > Michael Farmer > > > --- On Fri, 12/5/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad New Canadian > Meteorite for sale > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 10:58 AM > > Greg, > > > > As I understand, the Canadian law was put in place to > give > > Canadian > > Scientists first shot at ALL the grant money on > research > > for any newly found > > meteorites in Canada. > > > > If any meteorite is allowed outside the Canadian > borders, > > it would allow > > some other scientist or institution in another > country to > > get that grant money. > > In some cases that grant money could total in the > tens of > > thousands or > > hundreds of thousands of dollars. > > > > I am not sure what Canadian Meteorite Researchers > earn > > each year, but their > > salaries can't be cheap for their employers. > > > > So, as long as the physical rock stayed in Canada, > then no > > harm can be done > > to the Canadian scientists. > > > > Years ago, I purchased a new Canadian Meteorite when > I > > drove to Canada. I > > gave it to a Canadian collector to hold for me when I > > returned to the states > > to figure out what I wanted to do with it. I then > sold > > the
[meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite (Not the Fall!)
List, Not too much has been mentioned about the new Canadian iron to be found as most of the press has been given to the new fall in Lloydminster Sask.. Instead of driving from Edmonton two hours east to Saskatchewan you can drive about the same west to Whitecourt Alberta and see a newly discovered crater with lots of iron meteorites. It is now protected to help preserve the small crater which is too bad for meteorite hunters. Hopefully some science will be gained at the cost of keeping us out from gobbling up some nice irons. Apparently there are lots of Sikhote like irons to be found. Friends from the University of Western Ontario were out to Whitecourt last month and retrieved lots of material. A very exciting find because the crater is so very young and in great shape. An exciting time for Canadian meteorite enthusiasts. Here is more info: http://easweb.eas.ualberta.ca/page/108 Cheers! Mike Tettenborn One anxious Canadian meteorite enthusiast waiting for his piece of Lloydminster __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Gimme, gimme, gimme! Tracy Latimer p.s. the pix would be nice too. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite!
Nice picture in my local news paper. Will see if this is on line and let you know. Mike T. - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer To: Tettenborn ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite! PHOTOS, WE ALL WANT PHOTOS! Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Tettenborn To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:27 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite! NEWS! A third Canadian Pallasite has been found in Southampton. This is just 30km from where I live. 2500 gms individual was found in April 2001 by a 78 year old retired pipe fitter. This gentleman was strolling along the beach and came across this beauty. The meteorite was classified at Western University, London, Ontario. I will post more later. Cheers, Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario - Original Message - From: Mike Reynolds To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:08 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] OT: solar eclipse All: We have just returned from Mexico. We were near the "center line" just south of Puerto Vallarta. After fording a river, dealing with a rattlesnake, and winds that were whipping up sand, we "gringos" set up on the beach for what looked like a dismal afternoon of clouds. There was no sign of the sun at all. Until--would you believe just around mid-eclipse--out from the cloud layer slips this spectacular red-orange ring! Beads were also visible during the minute or so. Then with no fanfare, the ring slipped back into the clouds. The flock of pink flamingos flying over before central eclipse should have been "the sign." And yes... photos of the annular eclipse will be short in coming (I just dropped my film off today, but have already seen one from our group of "gringos" and need permission to post it!). Keep Looking Up, Mike Reynolds
Re: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite!
PHOTOS, WE ALL WANT PHOTOS! Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Tettenborn To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:27 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite! NEWS! A third Canadian Pallasite has been found in Southampton. This is just 30km from where I live. 2500 gms individual was found in April 2001 by a 78 year old retired pipe fitter. This gentleman was strolling along the beach and came across this beauty. The meteorite was classified at Western University, London, Ontario. I will post more later. Cheers, Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario - Original Message - From: Mike Reynolds To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:08 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] OT: solar eclipse All: We have just returned from Mexico. We were near the "center line" just south of Puerto Vallarta. After fording a river, dealing with a rattlesnake, and winds that were whipping up sand, we "gringos" set up on the beach for what looked like a dismal afternoon of clouds. There was no sign of the sun at all. Until--would you believe just around mid-eclipse--out from the cloud layer slips this spectacular red-orange ring! Beads were also visible during the minute or so. Then with no fanfare, the ring slipped back into the clouds. The flock of pink flamingos flying over before central eclipse should have been "the sign." And yes... photos of the annular eclipse will be short in coming (I just dropped my film off today, but have already seen one from our group of "gringos" and need permission to post it!). Keep Looking Up, Mike Reynolds
[meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite!
NEWS! A third Canadian Pallasite has been found in Southampton. This is just 30km from where I live. 2500 gms individual was found in April 2001 by a 78 year old retired pipe fitter. This gentleman was strolling along the beach and came across this beauty. The meteorite was classified at Western University, London, Ontario. I will post more later. Cheers, Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario - Original Message - From: Mike Reynolds To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:08 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] OT: solar eclipse All: We have just returned from Mexico. We were near the "center line" just south of Puerto Vallarta. After fording a river, dealing with a rattlesnake, and winds that were whipping up sand, we "gringos" set up on the beach for what looked like a dismal afternoon of clouds. There was no sign of the sun at all. Until--would you believe just around mid-eclipse--out from the cloud layer slips this spectacular red-orange ring! Beads were also visible during the minute or so. Then with no fanfare, the ring slipped back into the clouds. The flock of pink flamingos flying over before central eclipse should have been "the sign." And yes... photos of the annular eclipse will be short in coming (I just dropped my film off today, but have already seen one from our group of "gringos" and need permission to post it!). Keep Looking Up, Mike Reynolds
