Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan Fall
Hello John and others, I have smaller pieces than yours so your visual assessment may be more accurate than my own, but my .3g Carancas appear a bit whiter than my .89g Tamdakht (Tishka). I remember earlier descriptions of the Carancas was that it is very friable. I haven't read if anybody had tried to crush the Tamdakht with just fingers. Another similar looking meteorite I have is the Weston. Carl G'Day List I noticed there's been alot of information posted in regards to the recent fall in Morocco, Tishka. I will call it that for the time being, knowing quite well it could change and there's alot of alternatives out there. Now I might be blowing a little bit of smoke here, so please don't flame me too hard. But I received a 4.5 gram fragment of Tishka and naturally my first move is I grab my loop and do a quick scan. I don't have the ability to do scientific analysis, but from doing a preliminary check it was like deja-vu. So yes, back to the boxes of my collection and sure enough I found a 3 gram piece of Carancas. I was amazed at the similarities. Now don't get me wrong here, this is just a visual inspection. The Carancas which had a nice area of slickenslide which has been referred to, also appears to be identical on Tishka. And then you have other characteristics and I can list a few more, but I don't possess the scientific knowledge that the members of the list have. But I just found it uncanny that I'm holding Carancas in one hand and Tishka in the other and I just could not tell them apart. Am I just assuming that we have something similar or just grabbing at straws? I would like hear your input . As I said earlier, I might just be blowing smoke, but has anyone else noticed the similarities? Cheers John _ Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_explore_022009 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Moroccan Fall
G'Day List I noticed there's been alot of information posted in regards to the recent fall in Morocco, Tishka. I will call it that for the time being, knowing quite well it could change and there's alot of alternatives out there. Now I might be blowing a little bit of smoke here, so please don't flame me too hard. But I received a 4.5 gram fragment of Tishka and naturally my first move is I grab my loop and do a quick scan. I don't have the ability to do scientific analysis, but from doing a preliminary check it was like deja-vu. So yes, back to the boxes of my collection and sure enough I found a 3 gram piece of Carancas. I was amazed at the similarities. Now don't get me wrong here, this is just a visual inspection. The Carancas which had a nice area of slickenslide which has been referred to, also appears to be identical on Tishka. And then you have other characteristics and I can list a few more, but I don't possess the scientific knowledge that the members of the list have. But I just found it uncanny that I'm holding Carancas in one hand and Tishka in the other and I just could not tell them apart. Am I just assuming that we have something similar or just grabbing at straws? I would like hear your input . As I said earlier, I might just be blowing smoke, but has anyone else noticed the similarities? Cheers John __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall info.
H... Is it possible to have a meteorite fall where some of the stones have absolutely no chondrites, yet some of the stones are chock-full of them? This sounds very fishy, especially after seeing the crater/pit pictures. Maybe Michael Farmer and a couple others in Tucson should compare their new Moroccan meteorites to see if our community is being sold completely different meteorites (but under the same name). Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Michael, Svend, Bernd, Steve #2 or the other purchasers are the problem here. Regards, Bob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:05 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall info. Look, I just held a 3 kilo individual, broken into pieces, but fit back together. It looks to me and others here at the show like an H3. Plenty of chondrules actually, I am not sure why you guys can't see chondrules, the meteorite is chock-full of them. Very nice stone, certainly not an H5 or 6, could be H3 or 4 would be my guess, leaning toward 3. It is a nice meteorite, but it sure looks like a pile of it is in Tucson right now. By the way, Room 184 at the Inn Suites is OPEN! Moritz Karl, Eric Olsen, Jim Strope and myself are up and running. The weather is fine, and it looks like meteorites are a lot sparser this year than ever before. Look forward to seeing all who are coming. Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall info.
Look, I just held a 3 kilo individual, broken into pieces, but fit back together. It looks to me and others here at the show like an H3. Plenty of chondrules actually, I am not sure why you guys can't see chondrules, the meteorite is chock-full of them. Very nice stone, certainly not an H5 or 6, could be H3 or 4 would be my guess, leaning toward 3. It is a nice meteorite, but it sure looks like a pile of it is in Tucson right now. By the way, Room 184 at the Inn Suites is OPEN! Moritz Karl, Eric Olsen, Jim Strope and myself are up and running. The weather is fine, and it looks like meteorites are a lot sparser this year than ever before. Look forward to seeing all who are coming. Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall info.
Hey Mike, Any signs indicating that it could be a breccia? Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:04 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall info. Look, I just held a 3 kilo individual, broken into pieces, but fit back together. It looks to me and others here at the show like an H3. Plenty of chondrules actually, I am not sure why you guys can't see chondrules, the meteorite is chock-full of them. Very nice stone, certainly not an H5 or 6, could be H3 or 4 would be my guess, leaning toward 3. It is a nice meteorite, but it sure looks like a pile of it is in Tucson right now. By the way, Room 184 at the Inn Suites is OPEN! Moritz Karl, Eric Olsen, Jim Strope and myself are up and running. The weather is fine, and it looks like meteorites are a lot sparser this year than ever before. Look forward to seeing all who are coming. Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact or movie shooting
hi all i m always a sleep when a war start here next i m i will let an automate answering. ok let's finish i ask here the it memeber that each one tell us how many kg have been showed to him;and we will see. in morroco without telling name mr zoro has over 160 kilos the bassi zoro???. mt A has over than 30 kilos mr y has over than 50 kios mr s has 5 or 10 kilos the family tribut that near tichka has kilos ans kilos and kilos ,, in morroco all the big dealer refuse to buy it, what happend the guys that bought it has been burned hands with and they try to sell it fast why you hurry up mans, you worry about selling fast before more show , be amn and wait,, total over 500 kilos will show up in the market , back for this man made shooting movie bravo , i will ask redly scott to give you a help. NOt far from this place there is studio of dino de laurentis and they have special effect why you do not ask them help. this team of craps that want to make me look like a jook i don't care and for the 1$ k help thanks i manage and i own two palaces thats worth over 7 millions dollar , you can see my website or google palm's hotels and you will that you can worry about yourself. its over if any crap come back here and insult me i will answer with the trued i wrote to the list like i always do each fall ; i never lied to the list or lied to any one, go to the archives i do not wnat to sell that falls untill it's over and the TKW is known, you have an other bs story come back , what do you know to meteorite you do not know what is L3 from an H3. GETTING TIRED OF ALL THIS . I DECLARE THE TKW IS 0.0001 MILLIGRAMME AND YOU SAW IT AND IT FELLS IN YOUR HAND? WHAT ELSE? please is there any frensh ,usa or gremain team that can come over here and let's heard the trued before tucson,because all this is made to export and to sel beofre tucson; what you call a crater would not brook the main mass that is over 80 kilos and what i have seen one broken stone without crust is 9 kilos and makes 50 to 70 cm than what the original stone will be 100 kilos. where is the small couscous stone they will show up again once the snow is gone, and please give me a breack oh my god i give up , enough i enough, one last thing no one morrocan dealer want to deal with this new fall outside the guys that was stuck in the bigining and bought for 0.6$ and now it will sell for 500$ kilos or less. so get back to work aziz the habibi ; habibi aziz box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco phone. 21235576145 fax.21235576170/font __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact or movie shooting
Hello Aziz; Thank you very much for your post reporting the new fall,and all the great info. that you also posted to the list.This is very much appreciated by me for one and i look forward to your future posts on such matters.THANK YOU AGAIN. Best Regards and happy meteorite hunting; Herman Archer IMCA # 2770. **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
Dear listees, Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's your problem which has no influence on the sale of this meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have it, let other jerks talk, they have and will have nothing, they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed. Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to reply, so don't try to get info and go away. All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be published on the meteote bultin. dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see. Cheers Aziz NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any need for a piece, contact me off lis at : alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060 Alhyane abdelaziz Taliouine center 83500 Morocco __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
Dear collectors, I've forget (a) my main email address is: alhyane_abdela...@yahoo.com My best Aziz --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:01 PM Dear listees, Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's your problem which has no influence on the sale of this meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have it, let other jerks talk, they have and will have nothing, they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed. Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to reply, so don't try to get info and go away. All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be published on the meteote bultin. dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see. Cheers Aziz NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any need for a piece, contact me off lis at : alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060 Alhyane abdelaziz Taliouine center 83500 Morocco __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you are crazy. That is a dent in the dirt. Michael Farmer --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM Dear listees, Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's your problem which has no influence on the sale of this meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have it, let other jerks talk, they have and will have nothing, they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed. Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to reply, so don't try to get info and go away. All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be published on the meteote bultin. dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see. Cheers Aziz NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any need for a piece, contact me off lis at : alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060 Alhyane abdelaziz Taliouine center 83500 Morocco __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
Let people know where you pictured Bensour pieces. you are a robber, everybody knows that, nwa 482 was 1280g where was the rest?, it was the reason of a big house and the last Model of Toyota and additional accessories. The cartaer you've seen is the only whole we can found, the pieces are on that place. do you have some lies. please mike, get people who you owe the money their . Aziz --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:13 PM If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you are crazy. That is a dent in the dirt. Michael Farmer --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM Dear listees, Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's your problem which has no influence on the sale of this meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have it, let other jerks talk, they have and will have nothing, they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed. Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to reply, so don't try to get info and go away. All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be published on the meteote bultin. dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see. Cheers Aziz NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any need for a piece, contact me off lis at : alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060 Alhyane abdelaziz Taliouine center 83500 Morocco __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
Ok Aziz, Whatever, Heard this all before. Michael Farmer We will see what turns up in Tucson. --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, meteorite...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:21 PM Let people know where you pictured Bensour pieces. you are a robber, everybody knows that, nwa 482 was 1280g where was the rest?, it was the reason of a big house and the last Model of Toyota and additional accessories. The cartaer you've seen is the only whole we can found, the pieces are on that place. do you have some lies. please mike, get people who you owe the money their . Aziz --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:13 PM If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you are crazy. That is a dent in the dirt. Michael Farmer --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM Dear listees, Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's your problem which has no influence on the sale of this meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have it, let other jerks talk, they have and will have nothing, they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed. Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to reply, so don't try to get info and go away. All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be published on the meteote bultin. dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see. Cheers Aziz NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any need for a piece, contact me off lis at : alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060 Alhyane abdelaziz Taliouine center 83500 Morocco __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
Mike, be a man and let us talk about all your trips to Morocco and all you lies to you customers and your partners, I have tents of questions, will be able to reply honestly ? Aziz Alhyane --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, meteorite...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:24 PM Let people know where you pictured Bensour pieces. you are a robber, everybody knows that, nwa 482 was 1280g where was the rest?, it was the reason of a big house and the last Model of Toyota and additional accessories. The cartaer you've seen is the only whole we can found, the pieces are on that place. do you have some lies. please mike, get people who you owe the money their . Aziz --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:13 PM If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you are crazy. That is a dent in the dirt. Michael Farmer --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM Dear listees, Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's your problem which has no influence on the sale of this meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have it, let other jerks talk, they have and will have nothing, they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed. Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to reply, so don't try to get info and go away. All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be published on the meteote bultin. dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see. Cheers Aziz NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any need for a piece, contact me off lis at : alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060 Alhyane abdelaziz Taliouine center 83500 Morocco __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
If you want to talk about this in more detail, please do it off list. Mark Grossman - Original Message - From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; meteorite...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact Mike, be a man and let us talk about all your trips to Morocco and all you lies to you customers and your partners, I have tents of questions, will be able to reply honestly ? Aziz Alhyane --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, meteorite...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:24 PM Let people know where you pictured Bensour pieces. you are a robber, everybody knows that, nwa 482 was 1280g where was the rest?, it was the reason of a big house and the last Model of Toyota and additional accessories. The cartaer you've seen is the only whole we can found, the pieces are on that place. do you have some lies. please mike, get people who you owe the money their . Aziz --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:13 PM If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you are crazy. That is a dent in the dirt. Michael Farmer --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM Dear listees, Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's your problem which has no influence on the sale of this meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have it, let other jerks talk, they have and will have nothing, they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed. Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to reply, so don't try to get info and go away. All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be published on the meteote bultin. dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see. Cheers Aziz NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any need for a piece, contact me off lis at : alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060 Alhyane abdelaziz Taliouine center 83500 Morocco __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
I think it is technically important to distinguish between a crater, which is caused by an object traveling at more than terminal velocity, and an impact pit, which is just the usual small hole or dent (depending on ground quality) that any slow falling object (including most meteorites) will create. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 6:01 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact Dear listees, Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's your problem which has no influence on the sale of this meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have it, let other jerks talk, they have and will have nothing, they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed. Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to reply, so don't try to get info and go away. All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be published on the meteote bultin. dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see. Cheers Aziz NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any need for a piece, contact me off lis at : alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060 Alhyane abdelaziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
I don't care for your Tucson, I want to tell everybody the truth. you must shut up, and talk about Moroccans and moroccan falls, if you do, I can stop. Aziz Alhyane --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:26 PM Ok Aziz, Whatever, Heard this all before. Michael Farmer We will see what turns up in Tucson. --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, meteorite...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:21 PM Let people know where you pictured Bensour pieces. you are a robber, everybody knows that, nwa 482 was 1280g where was the rest?, it was the reason of a big house and the last Model of Toyota and additional accessories. The cartaer you've seen is the only whole we can found, the pieces are on that place. do you have some lies. please mike, get people who you owe the money their . Aziz --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:13 PM If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you are crazy. That is a dent in the dirt. Michael Farmer --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM Dear listees, Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's your problem which has no influence on the sale of this meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have it, let other jerks talk, they have and will have nothing, they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed. Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to reply, so don't try to get info and go away. All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be published on the meteote bultin. dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see. Cheers Aziz NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any need for a piece, contact me off lis at : alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060 Alhyane abdelaziz Taliouine center 83500 Morocco __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
Considering the fact that I never dealt with you, did I? Then I doubt you have anything of interest other than the thousands of rumors, millions of $$$ sold, suitcases of money hiddenn, how many times I went to jail in Morocco, blah blah blah. I asked for true information on the new fall, you are going crazy attacking me? What motive? Michael Farmer --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Mark Grossman mar...@westnet.com wrote: From: Mark Grossman mar...@westnet.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, meteorite...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:28 PM If you want to talk about this in more detail, please do it off list. Mark Grossman - Original Message - From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; meteorite...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact Mike, be a man and let us talk about all your trips to Morocco and all you lies to you customers and your partners, I have tents of questions, will be able to reply honestly ? Aziz Alhyane --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, meteorite...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:24 PM Let people know where you pictured Bensour pieces. you are a robber, everybody knows that, nwa 482 was 1280g where was the rest?, it was the reason of a big house and the last Model of Toyota and additional accessories. The cartaer you've seen is the only whole we can found, the pieces are on that place. do you have some lies. please mike, get people who you owe the money their . Aziz --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:13 PM If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you are crazy. That is a dent in the dirt. Michael Farmer --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM Dear listees, Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's your problem which has no influence on the sale of this meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have it, let other jerks talk, they have and will have nothing, they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed. Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to reply, so don't try to get info and go away. All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be published on the meteote bultin. dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see. Cheers Aziz NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any need for a piece, contact me off lis at : alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060 Alhyane abdelaziz Taliouine center 83500 Morocco __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
If you don't like facts, don't read and reply. back off please. Aziz alhyane --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Mark Grossman mar...@westnet.com wrote: From: Mark Grossman mar...@westnet.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, meteorite...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:28 PM If you want to talk about this in more detail, please do it off list. Mark Grossman - Original Message - From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; meteorite...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact Mike, be a man and let us talk about all your trips to Morocco and all you lies to you customers and your partners, I have tents of questions, will be able to reply honestly ? Aziz Alhyane --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, meteorite...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:24 PM Let people know where you pictured Bensour pieces. you are a robber, everybody knows that, nwa 482 was 1280g where was the rest?, it was the reason of a big house and the last Model of Toyota and additional accessories. The cartaer you've seen is the only whole we can found, the pieces are on that place. do you have some lies. please mike, get people who you owe the money their . Aziz --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:13 PM If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you are crazy. That is a dent in the dirt. Michael Farmer --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM Dear listees, Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's your problem which has no influence on the sale of this meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have it, let other jerks talk, they have and will have nothing, they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed. Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to reply, so don't try to get info and go away. All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be published on the meteote bultin. dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see. Cheers Aziz NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any need for a piece, contact me off lis at : alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060 Alhyane abdelaziz Taliouine center 83500 Morocco __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
Someone sent me a meteorite a few years ago and claimed it was a fall with a crater. I had my doubts, so I asked for a photo. He sent this: http://www.meteoritemarket.com/site2(50).jpg This was proof in his mind. I still had my doubts. Now I'll call on the list experts to say whether this is a crater or an impact pit . . . Eric Twelker On Jan 19, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you are crazy. That is a dent in the dirt. Michael Farmer --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM Dear listees, Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's your problem which has no influence on the sale of this meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have it, let other jerks talk, they have and will have nothing, they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed. Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to reply, so don't try to get info and go away. All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be published on the meteote bultin. dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see. Cheers Aziz NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any need for a piece, contact me off lis at : alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060 Alhyane abdelaziz Taliouine center 83500 Morocco __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
Hello Eric, It likes like a grave, complete with cross! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Eric Twelker twel...@alaska.net To: meteorite...@yahoo.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact Someone sent me a meteorite a few years ago and claimed it was a fall with a crater. I had my doubts, so I asked for a photo. He sent this: http://www.meteoritemarket.com/site2(50).jpg This was proof in his mind. I still had my doubts. Now I'll call on the list experts to say whether this is a crater or an impact pit . . . Eric Twelker On Jan 19, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you are crazy. That is a dent in the dirt. Michael Farmer --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM Dear listees, Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's your problem which has no influence on the sale of this meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have it, let other jerks talk, they have and will have nothing, they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed. Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to reply, so don't try to get info and go away. All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be published on the meteote bultin. dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see. Cheers Aziz NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any need for a piece, contact me off lis at : alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060 Alhyane abdelaziz Taliouine center 83500 Morocco __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
Actually, those are two mattocks--and if one looks closely, you can see mattock or shovel marks all the way down. Yes, I'd say a grave too. Amusing . . . Eric On Jan 19, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Greg Hupe wrote: Hello Eric, It likes like a grave, complete with cross! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Eric Twelker twel...@alaska.net To: meteorite...@yahoo.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact Someone sent me a meteorite a few years ago and claimed it was a fall with a crater. I had my doubts, so I asked for a photo. He sent this: http://www.meteoritemarket.com/site2(50).jpg This was proof in his mind. I still had my doubts. Now I'll call on the list experts to say whether this is a crater or an impact pit . . . Eric Twelker On Jan 19, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you are crazy. That is a dent in the dirt. Michael Farmer --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM Dear listees, Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's your problem which has no influence on the sale of this meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have it, let other jerks talk, they have and will have nothing, they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed. Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to reply, so don't try to get info and go away. All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be published on the meteote bultin. dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see. Cheers Aziz NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any need for a piece, contact me off lis at : alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060 Alhyane abdelaziz Taliouine center 83500 Morocco __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
Looks like a grave people dug with a shovel! Michael on 1/19/09 5:35 PM, Eric Twelker at twel...@alaska.net wrote: Someone sent me a meteorite a few years ago and claimed it was a fall with a crater. I had my doubts, so I asked for a photo. He sent this: http://www.meteoritemarket.com/site2(50).jpg This was proof in his mind. I still had my doubts. Now I'll call on the list experts to say whether this is a crater or an impact pit . . . Eric Twelker On Jan 19, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you are crazy. That is a dent in the dirt. Michael Farmer --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM Dear listees, Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's your problem which has no influence on the sale of this meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have it, let other jerks talk, they have and will have nothing, they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed. Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to reply, so don't try to get info and go away. All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be published on the meteote bultin. dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see. Cheers Aziz NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any need for a piece, contact me off lis at : alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060 Alhyane abdelaziz Taliouine center 83500 Morocco __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Get 30% to 50% more gas mileage immediately (I did!): http://go4best.water4gas.hop.clickbank.net/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
Hello eric; I was thinking,when i saw the picture,that it looked like the meteorite dug itself into the ground with a shovel.Now that would be a classification to take seriously.Have a great day. Herman Archer IMCA # 2770 **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
Hello eric; I was thinking,when i saw the picture,that it looked like the meteorite dug itself into the ground with a shovel.Now that would be a classification to take seriously.Have a great day. Herman Archer IMCA # 2770 That would make it a shovel fall instead of a hammer fall. Michael __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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humhem, don't want to sound cheekily, but the fall of a new meteorite is a joyful event and not a calamity or a disgrace.. Isn't it? Well, can't understand the public poison in that debate about the new fall, just a little patience and then we'll see, what had happened, what has been found ect. Meanwhile some boring sentimentalities.:-) When I was a little boy, buying my first meteorite, there existed 2000 finds, 1000 falls, 90% of them locked away in institutions, and at the best available in single micro-bogey-sized crumbs. I noticed the Calcalong sensation, I saw DaG 400 and 262 arriving, asking prices of a quarter of a million per gram. Whenever I pointed my telescope to the Moon, I dreamt of holding a stone from up there in my hands, like those white men on the iconostasis of space flight. Mars I observed of course too, but never it came to my mind, that a stone from there would have made it to Earth, cause Zagami had on his label still standing: eucrite. Today I handle main masses of Moon and Mars. And Mars and Moon are ours. We even earn money with them (even dicing it in little pieces, making little Martin's old dream come true for thousands of people). I got in my hands types and stones, which I never could get in my possession on the classical names sector, simply because they would not be affordable or available or in some cases, simply because such stones where not known so far. Yah, it costs us endless work, nerves, health, sometimes frustration, personal and financial risks, also skills in recognizing and experience are needed, but in the final consequence, were it we, who picked up the suspicious stone in desert? This year we will reach NWA-number 6000. Twice as much finds as meteorites in total from the 2000 years before existed, when I started. The rarest types became readily available to the collectors and science and so low rates were asked as unseen in the 200 years of meteorite trade before. It may sound unwelcomely to the classic/conservative collectors, but aside Antarctica, in meteoritics of the last two decades, the progress of the subject and planetology, the most recoveries by number and importance were made in research on the hot desert finds, where NWAs outnumber all other desert finds together. These NWAs were not found by scientific expeditions and campaigns, they were hunted and brought to light by the people of these NWA-countries and channelled through Morocco. The meteorite community - private collectors and professional scientists - profited on the work of the Moroccans. The structures in Morocco grew in a different way, as we used to see from professional meteorite hunters or scientific hunts. In turn for this deficiency, the collectors, universities and museums don't have to pay anymore 500 or 2000$ a gram for a howardite, but 5-40$, not 1000$ for a bencubbinite, but 50$ or less, not 800-1200$ for an Acapulcoite, but 50$ and so on and not anymore 1000$++/g for a H5 W3 recovered in Antarctica - and they have such a choice of exotic and unique stones, they never would have dreamt of. And in many respects resemble the NWAs the Antarctic finds, which have lost due the migration of the ice all there strewnfield information, the information about break-up and fall angle and the original weight of the fall and which are numbered in the field, pairings put together later in the lab. And if there one can find other business standards and maybe here and there a lousy ethics and if Morocco is shark-tank, so what? The collector hasn't to care for, as long as there are people working as a buffer, taking all risks on their shoulders. El Hammami, Zag, Bensour, Amgala, Bensour, Benguerir, Oum Dreyga, Chergach, Bassikounou They were the cheapest observed falls of their times and btw. in history (e.g. 15 years after the 2 tons fall of Pultusk, the average price on the world market was 7.4$/g - and it was the cheapest stone meteorite of its time, the Gao, the NWA 869 of the 19th century). They yielded excellent to fantastic stones, which a collector couldn't get hold of with the other falls, simply because they produced not such stones or they were very expensive. Let's see, what this fall will bring and let's don't forget the other side of the medal, what for an immense contribution and enrichment the finds and falls from this corner of the world meant to the World of meteorites. Have a nice and peaceful weekend! Martin __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Good Points Martin. I can not wait to see photos of the area where this meteorite fell. The Atlas Mountans sound like an exotic location for a new fall. Don Rawlings --- On Sat, 1/17/09, Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote: From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 7:45 AM humhem, don't want to sound cheekily, but the fall of a new meteorite is a joyful event and not a calamity or a disgrace.. Isn't it? Well, can't understand the public poison in that debate about the new fall, just a little patience and then we'll see, what had happened, what has been found ect. Meanwhile some boring sentimentalities.:-) When I was a little boy, buying my first meteorite, there existed 2000 finds, 1000 falls, 90% of them locked away in institutions, and at the best available in single micro-bogey-sized crumbs. I noticed the Calcalong sensation, I saw DaG 400 and 262 arriving, asking prices of a quarter of a million per gram. Whenever I pointed my telescope to the Moon, I dreamt of holding a stone from up there in my hands, like those white men on the iconostasis of space flight. Mars I observed of course too, but never it came to my mind, that a stone from there would have made it to Earth, cause Zagami had on his label still standing: eucrite. Today I handle main masses of Moon and Mars. And Mars and Moon are ours. We even earn money with them (even dicing it in little pieces, making little Martin's old dream come true for thousands of people). I got in my hands types and stones, which I never could get in my possession on the classical names sector, simply because they would not be affordable or available or in some cases, simply because such stones where not known so far. Yah, it costs us endless work, nerves, health, sometimes frustration, personal and financial risks, also skills in recognizing and experience are needed, but in the final consequence, were it we, who picked up the suspicious stone in desert? This year we will reach NWA-number 6000. Twice as much finds as meteorites in total from the 2000 years before existed, when I started. The rarest types became readily available to the collectors and science and so low rates were asked as unseen in the 200 years of meteorite trade before. It may sound unwelcomely to the classic/conservative collectors, but aside Antarctica, in meteoritics of the last two decades, the progress of the subject and planetology, the most recoveries by number and importance were made in research on the hot desert finds, where NWAs outnumber all other desert finds together. These NWAs were not found by scientific expeditions and campaigns, they were hunted and brought to light by the people of these NWA-countries and channelled through Morocco. The meteorite community - private collectors and professional scientists - profited on the work of the Moroccans. The structures in Morocco grew in a different way, as we used to see from professional meteorite hunters or scientific hunts. In turn for this deficiency, the collectors, universities and museums don't have to pay anymore 500 or 2000$ a gram for a howardite, but 5-40$, not 1000$ for a bencubbinite, but 50$ or less, not 800-1200$ for an Acapulcoite, but 50$ and so on and not anymore 1000$++/g for a H5 W3 recovered in Antarctica - and they have such a choice of exotic and unique stones, they never would have dreamt of. And in many respects resemble the NWAs the Antarctic finds, which have lost due the migration of the ice all there strewnfield information, the information about break-up and fall angle and the original weight of the fall and which are numbered in the field, pairings put together later in the lab. And if there one can find other business standards and maybe here and there a lousy ethics and if Morocco is shark-tank, so what? The collector hasn't to care for, as long as there are people working as a buffer, taking all risks on their shoulders. El Hammami, Zag, Bensour, Amgala, Bensour, Benguerir, Oum Dreyga, Chergach, Bassikounou They were the cheapest observed falls of their times and btw. in history (e.g. 15 years after the 2 tons fall of Pultusk, the average price on the world market was 7.4$/g - and it was the cheapest stone meteorite of its time, the Gao, the NWA 869 of the 19th century). They yielded excellent to fantastic stones, which a collector couldn't get hold of with the other falls, simply because they produced not such stones or they were very expensive. Let's see, what this fall will bring and let's don't forget the other side of the medal, what for an immense contribution and enrichment the finds and falls from this corner of the world meant to the World of meteorites. Have a nice and peaceful weekend! Martin __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NEW Moroccan fall
Hello List Members, The bright fireball seen over Taliouine travelleing from southwest to the northeast, It has been seen over Igherm, Taliouine, Askaoune, so the right direction of the meteoritic fireball, is Igherm- tichka( Telouat where it fell). http://nwameteoritesss.skyrock.com/profil/photos/78989604 I wonder if a fireball can turn left or right and take the road to pass over Marrakech to Eljadida, maybe it just come for a tourism trip and have some swim at eljadida beach then get back to the space. My best Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NEW Moroccan fall
Hello, that looks like a great new fall. But I found a stone was found at Tamdaght SE of Telouet, on the road to Ouarzazate. Does it confirm a trajectory from SW to NE (Igherm - Telouet) ? Were the hundreds of kilograms found near Telouet also ? Pierre __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NEW Moroccan fall
Hi Pierre and list, The trajectory is from Southwest to northeast Igherm = Telouet passed over Igherm, Taliouine, Askaoune, Boumgzare we thought first it fell at Boumgzar. those who beleive on handereds of kgs, I'm sure they missed it and will missed it as there's no hundereds. Ma best Aziz --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Pelé Pierre-Marie pierremariep...@yahoo.fr wrote: From: Pelé Pierre-Marie pierremariep...@yahoo.fr Subject: [meteorite-list] NEW Moroccan fall To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 5:48 AM Hello, that looks like a great new fall. But I found a stone was found at Tamdaght SE of Telouet, on the road to Ouarzazate. Does it confirm a trajectory from SW to NE (Igherm - Telouet) ? Were the hundreds of kilograms found near Telouet also ? Pierre __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NEW Moroccan fall
Hi Again, Sorry, I have names mixed up, I meant Amerzgane not Boumgzare. My best Aziz --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Pelé Pierre-Marie pierremariep...@yahoo.fr wrote: From: Pelé Pierre-Marie pierremariep...@yahoo.fr Subject: [meteorite-list] NEW Moroccan fall To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 5:48 AM Hello, that looks like a great new fall. But I found a stone was found at Tamdaght SE of Telouet, on the road to Ouarzazate. Does it confirm a trajectory from SW to NE (Igherm - Telouet) ? Were the hundreds of kilograms found near Telouet also ? Pierre __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
I just got an interesting phone call from Morocco. It seems that this may be bigger than even the Moroccans are saying. I was told that more than one metric TON of meteorite fragments are recovered, and that apparently a massive stone fell in the Atlas mountains forming a crater, and shattering the stone into thousands of fragments. Not one complete stone found, only again MORE THAN ONE TON of fragments. I am awaiting photos. This one could be interesting! The area is completely under heavy snow right now though. Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
Wow, even Moroccans don't have these infos, seems like the person who called you has no gram from this fall and try to breake the real dealers whom really have it, and not forwarding pics from nomads. Aziz --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 9:36 AM I just got an interesting phone call from Morocco. It seems that this may be bigger than even the Moroccans are saying. I was told that more than one metric TON of meteorite fragments are recovered, and that apparently a massive stone fell in the Atlas mountains forming a crater, and shattering the stone into thousands of fragments. Not one complete stone found, only again MORE THAN ONE TON of fragments. I am awaiting photos. This one could be interesting! The area is completely under heavy snow right now though. Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
Perhaps it is not true, I don't know, Moroccans are certainly prone to making up lies, selling crap to anyone with money, and scamming everyone. Hence, my urge of caution to anyone wanting to buy. As a person who has spent nearly a half million $ in Morocco, I do have my suppliers and people I trust, and I trust most of what they say. Now, I am a show-me type of person, I do not believe this until I see photos or material, I still do not know if a fall occurred, I know damn well that many Moroccans do not give a shit about the meteorites, the business or the integrety of the falls (for example, ensuring that pieces are seperated and sold as what they are, not what makes more money). They want to milk collectors out of every last Dirham. Is this new fall real, or just the ugly broken pieces of Chergach that no one wants to buy (hence the weathering)? Moroccan people have done this to themselves, no one trusts much of what they say anymore, every fall, Bensour, Benguerir, Chergach, Oum Dreyga, Bassikounou, ALL of them were only a few kilos this is all, there is no more You will be the only supplier buy it now, or you wont get any I paid more but will sell to you for $1.00 gram blah blah blah. So, I am writing direct information that I am getting from a somewhat trustworthy supplier of mine in Morocco. He will be in Tucson, so you can ask him if he has some, or is it only you Aziz? We have heard this bird chirping a few times before. My customers are tired of paying $3 or $5 gram for every new fall from NWA area and them watching the price drop to $1 gram. Well, this can be solved, don't buy it yet until facts and total known weight come out. Michael Farmer --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. To: meteorite...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 10:43 AM Wow, even Moroccans don't have these infos, seems like the person who called you has no gram from this fall and try to breake the real dealers whom really have it, and not forwarding pics from nomads. Aziz --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 9:36 AM I just got an interesting phone call from Morocco. It seems that this may be bigger than even the Moroccans are saying. I was told that more than one metric TON of meteorite fragments are recovered, and that apparently a massive stone fell in the Atlas mountains forming a crater, and shattering the stone into thousands of fragments. Not one complete stone found, only again MORE THAN ONE TON of fragments. I am awaiting photos. This one could be interesting! The area is completely under heavy snow right now though. Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
Never a total known weight comes out from NWA, where is bassi that everybody said there was a ton or so of it, the same for chergach, only a few grams available from Moroccans right now, prices going down reason is moroccans themselves, and for your info mike, you said you don't beleive it until you get the pics, so why didn't you wait for photos and tell what is true, maybe you are telling list members LIES, since you're not sure of what you say. This fall is limited because it fell in Morocco, not chergach or bassi, where you can not get the facts, but since it's here, what's availble of it, is what is offering now. Aziz --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 9:53 AM Perhaps it is not true, I don't know, Moroccans are certainly prone to making up lies, selling crap to anyone with money, and scamming everyone. Hence, my urge of caution to anyone wanting to buy. As a person who has spent nearly a half million $ in Morocco, I do have my suppliers and people I trust, and I trust most of what they say. Now, I am a show-me type of person, I do not believe this until I see photos or material, I still do not know if a fall occurred, I know damn well that many Moroccans do not give a shit about the meteorites, the business or the integrety of the falls (for example, ensuring that pieces are seperated and sold as what they are, not what makes more money). They want to milk collectors out of every last Dirham. Is this new fall real, or just the ugly broken pieces of Chergach that no one wants to buy (hence the weathering)? Moroccan people have done this to themselves, no one trusts much of what they say anymore, every fall, Bensour, Benguerir, Chergach, Oum Dreyga, Bassikounou, ALL of them were only a few kilos this is all, there is no more You will be the only supplier buy it now, or you wont get any I paid more but will sell to you for $1.00 gram blah blah blah. So, I am writing direct information that I am getting from a somewhat trustworthy supplier of mine in Morocco. He will be in Tucson, so you can ask him if he has some, or is it only you Aziz? We have heard this bird chirping a few times before. My customers are tired of paying $3 or $5 gram for every new fall from NWA area and them watching the price drop to $1 gram. Well, this can be solved, don't buy it yet until facts and total known weight come out. Michael Farmer --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. To: meteorite...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 10:43 AM Wow, even Moroccans don't have these infos, seems like the person who called you has no gram from this fall and try to breake the real dealers whom really have it, and not forwarding pics from nomads. Aziz --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 9:36 AM I just got an interesting phone call from Morocco. It seems that this may be bigger than even the Moroccans are saying. I was told that more than one metric TON of meteorite fragments are recovered, and that apparently a massive stone fell in the Atlas mountains forming a crater, and shattering the stone into thousands of fragments. Not one complete stone found, only again MORE THAN ONE TON of fragments. I am awaiting photos. This one could be interesting! The area is completely under heavy snow right now though. Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
Michael Famer wrote: (...) Moroccans are certainly prone to making up lies, selling crap to anyone with money, and scamming everyone. (...) Hm, Mike, All Cretans are liars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epimenides_paradox ??? Best, Matthias __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Matthias, Please don't overgeneralize my statement. There are few if any dealers on this list who when talking about METEORITE TRADERS from Morocco, would disagree that the untruths that come from there are not almost completely widespread. Amazing how one iron turns into 100 in a week, yet all of the people trying to sell to you insists that all the others are lying and theirs is the only one available. My statement is just that after all the BS, the truth is very had to figure out. Michael Farmer --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de wrote: From: Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. To: meteorite...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 11:52 AM Michael Famer wrote: (...) Moroccans are certainly prone to making up lies, selling crap to anyone with money, and scamming everyone. (...) Hm, Mike, All Cretans are liars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epimenides_paradox ??? Best, Matthias __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Of course not, Mike - we simply should be careful with our discretions. And I can imagine that the experiences one makes between dealers could be different from others. I personally had to do several times with Moroccans what concerns meteorites, on different levels - buying, getting information etc. - and all my experiences were pretty good. But I didn't want to - as we use to say in German - open this well known barrel again. A short note only. Best, Matthias - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com; Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. Matthias, Please don't overgeneralize my statement. There are few if any dealers on this list who when talking about METEORITE TRADERS from Morocco, would disagree that the untruths that come from there are not almost completely widespread. Amazing how one iron turns into 100 in a week, yet all of the people trying to sell to you insists that all the others are lying and theirs is the only one available. My statement is just that after all the BS, the truth is very had to figure out. Michael Farmer --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de wrote: From: Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. To: meteorite...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 11:52 AM Michael Famer wrote: (...) Moroccans are certainly prone to making up lies, selling crap to anyone with money, and scamming everyone. (...) Hm, Mike, All Cretans are liars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epimenides_paradox ??? Best, Matthias __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi everybody , I was away of pc for tow days to come back and found this hot debate about this new fall in Morocco.Some people's aime is to downgrade this new fall in Morocco HOWEVER,This would make it very known over all the world and it would make a good marketing for it since there is only few kilos found.If anyone claimes that there is hundrads or several kilos he should prove it to the list and show the photos of the lot.. Few of US dealers said that thier friends in Morocco told them that there was no fall in Tichka,For those i want to say that your friends in Morocco are not able nor lucky to get any of this fall..I am also coming to Tucson show and i will prove to everybody that there was a new fall and you all will get sure that there is not much of this material available. The price would probably go up to $8 or 10/gr at tucson show after everybody gets certain that yes it is a new fall and only little of it is available.. Said Haddany --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de wrote: From: Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. To: meteorite...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 12:39 PM Of course not, Mike - we simply should be careful with our discretions. And I can imagine that the experiences one makes between dealers could be different from others. I personally had to do several times with Moroccans what concerns meteorites, on different levels - buying, getting information etc. - and all my experiences were pretty good. But I didn't want to - as we use to say in German - open this well known barrel again. A short note only. Best, Matthias - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com; Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. Matthias, Please don't overgeneralize my statement. There are few if any dealers on this list who when talking about METEORITE TRADERS from Morocco, would disagree that the untruths that come from there are not almost completely widespread. Amazing how one iron turns into 100 in a week, yet all of the people trying to sell to you insists that all the others are lying and theirs is the only one available. My statement is just that after all the BS, the truth is very had to figure out. Michael Farmer --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de wrote: From: Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. To: meteorite...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 11:52 AM Michael Famer wrote: (...) Moroccans are certainly prone to making up lies, selling crap to anyone with money, and scamming everyone. (...) Hm, Mike, All Cretans are liars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epimenides_paradox ??? Best, Matthias __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
8 or 10$ gram? Perhaps in Morocco there is no news of the worldwide Economic collapse? Good Luck Michael farmer Sent from my iPhone Michael On Jan 16, 2009, at 4:39 PM, Said Haddany mfcollec...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi everybody , I was away of pc for tow days to come back and found this hot debate about this new fall in Morocco.Some people's aime is to downgrade this new fall in Morocco HOWEVER,This would make it very known over all the world and it would make a good marketing for it since there is only few kilos found.If anyone claimes that there is hundrads or several kilos he should prove it to the list and show the photos of the lot.. Few of US dealers said that thier friends in Morocco told them that there was no fall in Tichka,For those i want to say that your friends in Morocco are not able nor lucky to get any of this fall..I am also coming to Tucson show and i will prove to everybody that there was a new fall and you all will get sure that there is not much of this material available. The price would probably go up to $8 or 10/gr at tucson show after everybody gets certain that yes it is a new fall and only little of it is available.. Said Haddany --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de wrote: From: Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. To: meteorite...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 12:39 PM Of course not, Mike - we simply should be careful with our discretions. And I can imagine that the experiences one makes between dealers could be different from others. I personally had to do several times with Moroccans what concerns meteorites, on different levels - buying, getting information etc. - and all my experiences were pretty good. But I didn't want to - as we use to say in German - open this well known barrel again. A short note only. Best, Matthias - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com; Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. Matthias, Please don't overgeneralize my statement. There are few if any dealers on this list who when talking about METEORITE TRADERS from Morocco, would disagree that the untruths that come from there are not almost completely widespread. Amazing how one iron turns into 100 in a week, yet all of the people trying to sell to you insists that all the others are lying and theirs is the only one available. My statement is just that after all the BS, the truth is very had to figure out. Michael Farmer --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de wrote: From: Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. To: meteorite...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 11:52 AM Michael Famer wrote: (...) Moroccans are certainly prone to making up lies, selling crap to anyone with money, and scamming everyone. (...) Hm, Mike, All Cretans are liars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epimenides_paradox ??? Best, Matthias __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
Hi Said All this may be true, but many collectors and dealers are hesitant only because of the past and rightfully so. Now it may be true that hundreds of kilos did not fall, but you can only cry wolf so many times before no one hears you. 8-10/g is a pipe dream my friend. I haven't seen a Moroccan fall that sold for that yet in any measurable quantity. Maybe I missed it, so please correct me if I am wrong. For the record, I have 3 Moroccan sources that I trust. Enough to wire 10s of thousands to them. Each has said that this IS a new fall, quantities are small (open to interpretation). I would assume that means under 40kg for Moroccans. If they are making up stories then my business will end as I do not want to do business with liars. Time will tell. Matt Morgan Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA -Original Message- From: Said Haddany mfcollec...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:39:47 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. Hi everybody , I was away of pc for tow days to come back and found this hot debate about this new fall in Morocco.Some people's aime is to downgrade this new fall in Morocco HOWEVER,This would make it very known over all the world and it would make a good marketing for it since there is only few kilos found.If anyone claimes that there is hundrads or several kilos he should prove it to the list and show the photos of the lot.. Few of US dealers said that thier friends in Morocco told them that there was no fall in Tichka,For those i want to say that your friends in Morocco are not able nor lucky to get any of this fall..I am also coming to Tucson show and i will prove to everybody that there was a new fall and you all will get sure that there is not much of this material available. The price would probably go up to $8 or 10/gr at tucson show after everybody gets certain that yes it is a new fall and only little of it is available.. Said Haddany --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de wrote: From: Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. To: meteorite...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 12:39 PM Of course not, Mike - we simply should be careful with our discretions. And I can imagine that the experiences one makes between dealers could be different from others. I personally had to do several times with Moroccans what concerns meteorites, on different levels - buying, getting information etc. - and all my experiences were pretty good. But I didn't want to - as we use to say in German - open this well known barrel again. A short note only. Best, Matthias - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com; Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. Matthias, Please don't overgeneralize my statement. There are few if any dealers on this list who when talking about METEORITE TRADERS from Morocco, would disagree that the untruths that come from there are not almost completely widespread. Amazing how one iron turns into 100 in a week, yet all of the people trying to sell to you insists that all the others are lying and theirs is the only one available. My statement is just that after all the BS, the truth is very had to figure out. Michael Farmer --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de wrote: From: Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. To: meteorite...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 11:52 AM Michael Famer wrote: (...) Moroccans are certainly prone to making up lies, selling crap to anyone with money, and scamming everyone. (...) Hm, Mike, All Cretans are liars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epimenides_paradox ??? Best, Matthias __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
- Original Message - Da : Said Haddany mfcollec...@yahoo.com A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news. Data : Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:39:47 -0800 (PST) sure that there is not much of this material available. The price would probably go up to $8 or 10/gr at tucson show after everybody gets certain that yes it is a new fall and only little of it is available.. Said Haddany I have heard this sound many times from Moroccan dealers: buy buy seen few pieces its available of this meteorite .and afer few week its arrive other kilos of this material. 8-10/gr.? If I have to go a similar price, I prefear buy a piece from the Canada fall Matteo M come Meteorite Meteoriti i...@mcomemeteorite.it http://www.mcomemeteorite.it http://www.mcomemeteorite.info Mindat Gallery http://www.mindat.org/gallery-5018.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall
Hello List Members, Last Saturday, about 10:30 pm, a huge and bright fireball seen over Taliouine travelleing from southwest to the northeast, poeple in high atlas mountains confirmed that they have heard the firball hit a mountain in between Tahnaout and Ait ourir, Marrakech region. inhabitants was so scared since they have never seen a thing like that, it is so very hard to find the meteorites because of the snow, much trees, and unfortunately much stories, most are blabla. but we are always optimistic and trying to get more correct infos and why not to find this meteorite, It would be a happy ending of the 2008. My best Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I'll take that as a fireball that produced sounds. I very much doubt anybody heard an impact. Still, sonic booms are a strong indicator of meteorite production. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 11:38 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall Hello List Members, Last Saturday, about 10:30 pm, a huge and bright fireball seen over Taliouine travelleing from southwest to the northeast, poeple in high atlas mountains confirmed that they have heard the firball hit a mountain in between Tahnaout and Ait ourir, Marrakech region. inhabitants was so scared since they have never seen a thing like that, it is so very hard to find the meteorites because of the snow, much trees, and unfortunately much stories, most are blabla. but we are always optimistic and trying to get more correct infos and why not to find this meteorite, It would be a happy ending of the 2008. My best Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Yes, poeple heard the impact and this is why they are scared, Aziz --- On Sat, 12/27/08, Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote: From: Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, December 27, 2008, 10:44 AM I'll take that as a fireball that produced sounds. I very much doubt anybody heard an impact. Still, sonic booms are a strong indicator of meteorite production. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 11:38 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall Hello List Members, Last Saturday, about 10:30 pm, a huge and bright fireball seen over Taliouine travelleing from southwest to the northeast, poeple in high atlas mountains confirmed that they have heard the firball hit a mountain in between Tahnaout and Ait ourir, Marrakech region. inhabitants was so scared since they have never seen a thing like that, it is so very hard to find the meteorites because of the snow, much trees, and unfortunately much stories, most are blabla. but we are always optimistic and trying to get more correct infos and why not to find this meteorite, It would be a happy ending of the 2008. My best Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall
If they heard the impact, then Morocco would be in trouble. Michael Farmer --- On Sat, 12/27/08, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu Date: Saturday, December 27, 2008, 11:50 AM Yes, poeple heard the impact and this is why they are scared, Aziz --- On Sat, 12/27/08, Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote: From: Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, December 27, 2008, 10:44 AM I'll take that as a fireball that produced sounds. I very much doubt anybody heard an impact. Still, sonic booms are a strong indicator of meteorite production. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 11:38 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall Hello List Members, Last Saturday, about 10:30 pm, a huge and bright fireball seen over Taliouine travelleing from southwest to the northeast, poeple in high atlas mountains confirmed that they have heard the firball hit a mountain in between Tahnaout and Ait ourir, Marrakech region. inhabitants was so scared since they have never seen a thing like that, it is so very hard to find the meteorites because of the snow, much trees, and unfortunately much stories, most are blabla. but we are always optimistic and trying to get more correct infos and why not to find this meteorite, It would be a happy ending of the 2008. My best Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall
Impacts that are audible are exceedingly rare events. Except for the utterly bizarre, and possibly singular example of Carancas, I don't know of any meteorite fall that was audible to anybody more than a few meters from the impact (I would guess a few Sikhote-Alin craters produced a fair bit of noise). If people actually heard the impact when they were too far away to immediately identify the site, this was a crater forming event- possible, but not very likely. Far more likely is that people heard sonic booms echoing around hills and valleys- sounds that would be far more impressive (and scarier) than any impact sound. Of course, if there was a hypervelocity impact, people will be coming from all over the world to study it- and there may well be no meteorites at all. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall Yes, poeple heard the impact and this is why they are scared, Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall
I have received a offer for 2.2 kg. of the new fall for 3 Euro/gr. its a good price? Strangly now the moroccan people paired this new fall many similar to Bensour, i hope only this is not a fake fall where the moroccan people have put some pieces of Bensour in a crater and pass this for a new fall. Matteo _ Personalizza MSN Messenger con sfondi e fotografie! http://www.ilovemessenger.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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That's about $4, the same as they offered to Mike and Greg. I would be cautious and wait. -- Liebe Grüße/best regards Bernhard Rems - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Am Thu, 09 Dec 2004 13:41:42 +0100, schrieb McomeMeteorite Meteorite: I have received a offer for 2.2 kg. of the new fall for 3 Euro/gr. its a good price? Strangly now the moroccan people paired this new fall many similar to Bensour, i hope only this is not a fake fall where the moroccan people have put some pieces of Bensour in a crater and pass this for a new fall. Matteo _ Personalizza MSN Messenger con sfondi e fotografie! http://www.ilovemessenger.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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mah...its many strange this fallall have say the police have take all pieces of this fall, and now I seen many moroccan person give kilos of this meteoritemany strange MC From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: McomeMeteorite Meteorite [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 06:03:51 -0700 Gibe me a break Matteo, this is not a fake fall. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: McomeMeteorite Meteorite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 5:41 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall I have received a offer for 2.2 kg. of the new fall for 3 Euro/gr. its a good price? Strangly now the moroccan people paired this new fall many similar to Bensour, i hope only this is not a fake fall where the moroccan people have put some pieces of Bensour in a crater and pass this for a new fall. Matteo _ Personalizza MSN Messenger con sfondi e fotografie! http://www.ilovemessenger.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Filtri antispamming e antivirus per la tua casella di posta http://www.msn.it/msn/hotmail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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there not as rare as those saturm meteorites, that gently float down out of the sky like leaf. i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 13:28:18 -0700 Dear List; I propose the name of this new Maris or Jupiter meteorite to be "turnip-truck" after association with the finder. DF Walter Branch wrote: Hello Everyone, Here is an email I received recently (I receive this type every week). If anyone is interested in persuing this, let me know. You don't even have to travel to Morocco! -Walter Good day I have a meteorite wight about 5.4Kg. I have done initial test by Atlanta Laboratory, which confirm that it is come from Maris or Jupiter. It may need to be tested more for it chemical propriety. It is founded in Sahara desert. I would like to put in the market. Can you help me. I would be glad to send you a pic or meet with you. I live in Destin, FL - - Original Message - From: "Jeff Grossman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall This meteorite will be well documented. In fact, Dr Hasnaa Chennaoui, who was mentioned by Philippe Thomas earlier today and is describing it, will be one of two new members of the Nomenclature Committee beginning next month. Jeff At 01:31 PM 12/1/2004, David Freeman wrote: I have an idea, lets not start a new round of feeding the ducks match Patience is a virtue! DF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam, Why hasn't the Morrocan half of team Lunar rock documented this new fall? I thought we would have had all the information, by way of your proteges, immediately. Regards, Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman Chair, Meteorite Nomenclature Committee (Meteoritical Society) US Geological Survey 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA Phone: (703) 648-6184 fax: (703) 648-6383 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list__ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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This meteorite will be well documented. In fact, Dr Hasnaa Chennaoui, who was mentioned by Philippe Thomas earlier today and is describing it, will be one of two new members of the Nomenclature Committee beginning next month. Jeff At 01:31 PM 12/1/2004, David Freeman wrote: I have an idea, lets not start a new round of feeding the ducks match Patience is a virtue! DF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam, Why hasn't the Morrocan half of team Lunar rock documented this new fall? I thought we would have had all the information, by way of your proteges, immediately. Regards, Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman Chair, Meteorite Nomenclature Committee (Meteoritical Society) US Geological Survey 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA Phone: (703) 648-6184 fax: (703) 648-6383 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hello Everyone, Here is an email I received recently (I receive this type every week). If anyone is interested in persuing this, let me know. You don't even have to travel to Morocco! -Walter Good day I have a meteorite wight about 5.4Kg. I have done initial test by Atlanta Laboratory, which confirm that it is come from Maris or Jupiter. It may need to be tested more for it chemical propriety. It is founded in Sahara desert. I would like to put in the market. Can you help me. I would be glad to send you a pic or meet with you. I live in Destin, FL - - Original Message - From: Jeff Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall This meteorite will be well documented. In fact, Dr Hasnaa Chennaoui, who was mentioned by Philippe Thomas earlier today and is describing it, will be one of two new members of the Nomenclature Committee beginning next month. Jeff At 01:31 PM 12/1/2004, David Freeman wrote: I have an idea, lets not start a new round of feeding the ducks match Patience is a virtue! DF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam, Why hasn't the Morrocan half of team Lunar rock documented this new fall? I thought we would have had all the information, by way of your proteges, immediately. Regards, Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman Chair, Meteorite Nomenclature Committee (Meteoritical Society) US Geological Survey 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA Phone: (703) 648-6184 fax: (703) 648-6383 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Those Jupiter meteorites are kinda rare, did they find it in a bog? Cj - Original Message - From: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall Hello Everyone, Here is an email I received recently (I receive this type every week). If anyone is interested in persuing this, let me know. You don't even have to travel to Morocco! -Walter Good day I have a meteorite wight about 5.4Kg. I have done initial test by Atlanta Laboratory, which confirm that it is come from Maris or Jupiter. It may need to be tested more for it chemical propriety. It is founded in Sahara desert. I would like to put in the market. Can you help me. I would be glad to send you a pic or meet with you. I live in Destin, FL - - Original Message - From: Jeff Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall This meteorite will be well documented. In fact, Dr Hasnaa Chennaoui, who was mentioned by Philippe Thomas earlier today and is describing it, will be one of two new members of the Nomenclature Committee beginning next month. Jeff At 01:31 PM 12/1/2004, David Freeman wrote: I have an idea, lets not start a new round of feeding the ducks match Patience is a virtue! DF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam, Why hasn't the Morrocan half of team Lunar rock documented this new fall? I thought we would have had all the information, by way of your proteges, immediately. Regards, Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman Chair, Meteorite Nomenclature Committee (Meteoritical Society) US Geological Survey 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA Phone: (703) 648-6184 fax: (703) 648-6383 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Dear List; I propose the name of this new Maris or Jupiter meteorite to be turnip-truck after association with the finder. DF Walter Branch wrote: Hello Everyone, Here is an email I received recently (I receive this type every week). If anyone is interested in persuing this, let me know. You don't even have to travel to Morocco! -Walter Good day I have a meteorite wight about 5.4Kg. I have done initial test by Atlanta Laboratory, which confirm that it is come from Maris or Jupiter. It may need to be tested more for it chemical propriety. It is founded in Sahara desert. I would like to put in the market. Can you help me. I would be glad to send you a pic or meet with you. I live in Destin, FL - - Original Message - From: Jeff Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall This meteorite will be well documented. In fact, Dr Hasnaa Chennaoui, who was mentioned by Philippe Thomas earlier today and is describing it, will be one of two new members of the Nomenclature Committee beginning next month. Jeff At 01:31 PM 12/1/2004, David Freeman wrote: I have an idea, lets not start a new round of feeding the ducks match Patience is a virtue! DF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam, Why hasn't the Morrocan half of team Lunar rock documented this new fall? I thought we would have had all the information, by way of your proteges, immediately. Regards, Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman Chair, Meteorite Nomenclature Committee (Meteoritical Society) US Geological Survey 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA Phone: (703) 648-6184 fax: (703) 648-6383 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall
hello sir gregory and list i m sorry now i can't move to go and take photo , first i have some explosifs news from a lab and i can't move untill i buy the meteorite concerned , anf fixed some deals. i will ask my friend to do photo of this cater if there is one. because i do not beleive this news paper that sad this , its a little exagerated , but i called yahya and he told me that the people of this region say there is a acrater and our guys morrocan or europeen or usa guys can't aproch this place. and take photo. well this is the news. thanks aziz From: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 16:27:12 -0600 Hello Habibi and list, I would think that it would be an easy task to get a picture of the crater or impact hole, whichever you prefer. I suppose it depends on how loose or damp the soil is where it fell. In either case, the 10 kilo mass will have obvious soil embedded on it. If they know it weighs 10 kilos and it was 2 meters deep, than they had to dig it out and destroy the crater. Still worth a picture for us to see, suppose? If Mike is unable to get a picture of this, can you share one with us, Habibi? Thanks again, Greg __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hello Habibi and list, I would think that it would be an easy task to get a picture of the crater or impact hole, whichever you prefer. I suppose it depends on how loose or damp the soil is where it fell. In either case, the 10 kilo mass will have obvious soil embedded on it. If they know it weighs 10 kilos and it was 2 meters deep, than they had to dig it out and destroy the crater. Still worth a picture for us to see, suppose? If Mike is unable to get a picture of this, can you share one with us, Habibi? Thanks again, Greg __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Moroccan Fall
I just got off the phone with Mike Farmer and he will be home on Tuesdayto make an important announcement concerning the new Algerian/Moroccan fall. He wanted me to say that he has a file of all emails that registered requests for this meteorite while the battle was going on. These people who jumped to his defense will be rewarded with their requests filled to the best of his ability. The previously offered price is NO LONGER VALID for those who did not make initial requests. The price and availability of future sales is yet to be determined. He is NOT taking any more requests at this present time until everything gets sorted out. Best Wishes... Jim Strope421 Fourth StreetGlen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteoriteshttp://www.catchafallingstar.com
[meteorite-list] New Moroccan Fall
When Mike asked the eye witness to the fall about the Dean's claim of rain he laughed and said "I can't remember the last time it rained". So much for being "plugged in" to what is actually going on in Morocco. Mike did not say that he would be selling it next week for 2 or 3 dollars per gram. He said that he would be getting it next week for those who requested it. Go back and re-read the emails. For those who requested it when the offer was made they will be very happy. Jim Strope421 Fourth StreetGlen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteoriteshttp://www.catchafallingstar.com
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Hi Jim! I have heard that the new fall is going for .40 per gram. Several Moroccan dealers are retailing it for that. MC - Original Message - From: Jim Strope To: Meteorite Central Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 3:49 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan Fall When Mike asked the eye witness to the fall about the Dean's claim of rain he laughed and said "I can't remember the last time it rained". So much for being "plugged in" to what is actually going on in Morocco. Mike did not say that he would be selling it next week for 2 or 3 dollars per gram. He said that he would be getting it next week for those who requested it. Go back and re-read the emails. For those who requested it when the offer was made they will be very happy. Jim Strope421 Fourth StreetGlen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteoriteshttp://www.catchafallingstar.com
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have heard that the new fall is going for .40 per gram. Grab a tub of popcorn, everybody.;-) Gregory __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Jim! I have heard that the new fall is going for .40 per gram. Several Moroccan dealers are retailing it for that. MC Then send some maroccan dealers emails and all will be clear MrX will pay $2/g and MrY $.40/g. :-))) -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]--[ IMCA#3667 ]- http://www.meteoryt.net Meteorite Information Center http://www.polandmet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.studiomc.com.pl[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vistapro.prv.pl +GSM (607) 535 195 - __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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The previously offered price is NO LONGER VALID for those who did not make initial requests. Hmmm. Farmer said that he would be selling it next week for $2. What about the people who never emailed him but just decided to wait for him to put it on sale next week for $2 expecting him to follow through on his word like his reputation for keeping his word would normally indicate? hmmm. This is really problem now. Maybe he want start selling this for 1$/gram ? :))) Who give less ? Maybe Mike make small Easter surprise for as ? -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]--[ IMCA#3667 ]- http://www.meteoryt.net Meteorite Information Center http://www.polandmet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.studiomc.com.pl[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vistapro.prv.pl +GSM (607) 535 195 - __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Really no problem. Pal. It is kind of like when Circuit City had a sale last week on television sets. If you did not buy during the sale then it is too late. Not a complicated concept to understand, really. Jim Strope http://www.catchafallingstar.com ho ho guys, now we must hire verry good lawyer and read all emailagain.If he sell this for 2$ to Mr X and Y, then why he cant sell this to all inthe same price ?This is not god. However I dont want buy this nice material from Mike orDean.I don't envy Mr. X that he buy this for 2$ :))I don't now what to thinkMike blame Dean that he buy this for 1$? and sell for 15 :) and what Mike donow (will be sell this for .50 or 50$ ?)?Mike do not say "that he would be selling it next week for 2 or 3 dollarsper gram", but he don't say also that he will be selling this for 2$ onlyfor XX hours :)))100 different peoples = 100 different opinionsThis is firstfor NO
[meteorite-list] New Moroccan Fall
Hi folks, I received several individuals and fragments of the new Moroccan fall this afternoon, and couldn't resist quickly grinding a face onto one of the pieces and having a peek inside. This one fell at 16:17 GMT on 11th February.just about the same time that many of us were gathering for the start of Daryll Pitt's meteorite auction in Tucson. Kinda weird timing, don't you think?? It's a very fragile, almost crumbly meteorite that doesn't take a polish at all, so you might have to concentrate hard when looking at the picture I've posted here http://fernlea.tripod.com/newfall.html My largest individual is just over 200g and there are many dinky little, perfectly fusion crusted individuals that resememble the Holbrook Pultusk peas. The matrix had a much higher contrast when it was still wet with alcohol coolant, but it looks very much blander when dry and it can be difficult to see the small brecciation. I think LL6 is a pretty safe bet on this one, but we'll see. Cheers, Rob. http://fernlea.tripod.com/forsale.html Fernlea Meteorites, The Wynd, Off Dickson Lane, Milton of Balgonie, Fife. KY7 6PY United Kingdom Tel: +44-(0)1592-751563 Fax: +44-(0)1592-751991 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan Fall
Hello all Look the ebay auctions of Mr.Hupe meteoritelab and look the Bensour meteorite...is many similar. Regards Matteo --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I received several individuals and fragments of the new Moroccan fall this afternoon, and couldn't resist quickly grinding a face onto one of the pieces and having a peek inside. This one fell at 16:17 GMT on 11th February.just about the same time that many of us were gathering for the start of Daryll Pitt's meteorite auction in Tucson. Kinda weird timing, don't you think?? It's a very fragile, almost crumbly meteorite that doesn't take a polish at all, so you might have to concentrate hard when looking at the picture I've posted here http://fernlea.tripod.com/newfall.html My largest individual is just over 200g and there are many dinky little, perfectly fusion crusted individuals that resememble the Holbrook Pultusk peas. The matrix had a much higher contrast when it was still wet with alcohol coolant, but it looks very much blander when dry and it can be difficult to see the small brecciation. I think LL6 is a pretty safe bet on this one, but we'll see. Cheers, Rob. http://fernlea.tripod.com/forsale.html Fernlea Meteorites, The Wynd, Off Dickson Lane, Milton of Balgonie, Fife. KY7 6PY United Kingdom Tel: +44-(0)1592-751563 Fax: +44-(0)1592-751991 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Moroccan Fall
Well, I is time for me to jump in here and rain on Dean Bessy's parade. I also have a substantial amount of this fall on the way via DHL as I type here! DEan DOES NOT have it all, or even close to HALF as he so states and is so full of bullshit, that I cant keep quiet here any longer. I will have the materail for sale next week, and I plan to offer it around $2 gram! Now Dean, how in the hell do you justify selling material that you paid less than $1 gram for for $15 to $20 gram, it is a chondrite anc a nice one, but nevertheless, you DUMP (using your own words) rare material like it was a happy meal. Then for this fall you try to manipulate the market with more liesand self-reithous statements of self grandure. You are not crap when it comes to North Africa. Your one seller has you by the balls and feeds you what you want to hear, You my friend are the laughing stalk of Morocco. It is about time you learned it. Anyway, the point is folks, that you can pay Dean his "Good Deal" price of $15 gram, or wait one week and pay me $2 gram, your choice. Thanks Dean, Payback is a sunofabitch isnt it? By the way, you need to stop talking about me, it gets back to me, every word you say, and right now I am more than a little pissed you asshole!!!#@#@# Mike Farmer
