Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan Fall

2009-02-15 Thread Carl 's



Hello John and others,

I have smaller pieces than yours so your visual assessment may be more accurate 
than my own, but my .3g Carancas appear a bit whiter than my .89g Tamdakht 
(Tishka). I remember earlier descriptions of the Carancas was that it is very 
friable. I haven't read if anybody had tried to crush the Tamdakht with just 
fingers. Another similar looking meteorite I have is the Weston.

Carl






G'Day List
I noticed there's been alot of information posted in regards to the recent
fall in Morocco, Tishka. I will call it that for the time being, knowing
quite well it could change and there's alot of alternatives out there.
Now I might be blowing a little bit of smoke here, so please don't flame me
too hard.  But I received a 4.5 gram fragment  of Tishka and naturally my
first move is I grab my loop and do a quick scan. I don't have the ability
to do scientific analysis, but from doing a preliminary check it was like
deja-vu. So yes, back to the boxes of my collection and sure enough I found
a 3 gram piece of Carancas. I was amazed at the similarities. Now don't get
me wrong here, this is just a visual inspection.  The Carancas which had a
nice area of slickenslide which has been referred to, also appears to be
identical on Tishka.  And then you have other characteristics and I can list
a few more, but I don't possess the scientific knowledge that the members of
the list have.
But I just found it uncanny that I'm holding Carancas in one hand and Tishka
in the other and I just could not tell them apart.   Am I just assuming that
we have something similar or just grabbing at straws?
I would like hear your input . As I said earlier, I might just be blowing
smoke, but has anyone else noticed the similarities?
Cheers
John

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[meteorite-list] New Moroccan Fall

2009-02-14 Thread John.L.Cabassi

G'Day List
I noticed there's been alot of information posted in regards to the recent 
fall in Morocco, Tishka. I will call it that for the time being, knowing 
quite well it could change and there's alot of alternatives out there.


Now I might be blowing a little bit of smoke here, so please don't flame me 
too hard.  But I received a 4.5 gram fragment  of Tishka and naturally my 
first move is I grab my loop and do a quick scan. I don't have the ability 
to do scientific analysis, but from doing a preliminary check it was like 
deja-vu. So yes, back to the boxes of my collection and sure enough I found 
a 3 gram piece of Carancas. I was amazed at the similarities. Now don't get 
me wrong here, this is just a visual inspection.  The Carancas which had a 
nice area of slickenslide which has been referred to, also appears to be 
identical on Tishka.  And then you have other characteristics and I can list 
a few more, but I don't possess the scientific knowledge that the members of 
the list have.


But I just found it uncanny that I'm holding Carancas in one hand and Tishka 
in the other and I just could not tell them apart.   Am I just assuming that 
we have something similar or just grabbing at straws?


I would like hear your input . As I said earlier, I might just be blowing 
smoke, but has anyone else noticed the similarities?


Cheers
John 


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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall info.

2009-01-29 Thread Bob Loeffler
H... Is it possible to have a meteorite fall where some of the stones
have absolutely no chondrites, yet some of the stones are "chock-full of
them"?  This sounds very fishy, especially after seeing the crater/pit
pictures.  Maybe Michael Farmer and a couple others in Tucson should compare
their new Moroccan meteorites to see if our community is being sold
completely different meteorites (but under the same name).  Don't get me
wrong, I'm not saying that Michael, Svend, Bernd, Steve #2 or the other
purchasers are the problem here.

Regards,

Bob

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Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:05 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall info.

Look, I just held a 3 kilo individual, broken into pieces, but fit back
together. It looks to me and others here at the show like an H3. Plenty of
chondrules actually, I am not sure why you guys can't see chondrules, the
meteorite is chock-full of them. Very nice stone, certainly not an H5 or 6,
could be H3 or 4 would be my guess, leaning toward 3. 

It is a nice meteorite, but it sure looks like a pile of it is in Tucson
right now. 

By the way, Room 184 at the Inn Suites is OPEN! Moritz Karl, Eric Olsen, Jim
Strope and myself are up and running. The weather is fine, and it looks like
meteorites are a lot sparser this year than ever before. 
Look forward to seeing all who are coming. 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall info.

2009-01-28 Thread Jeff Kuyken

Hey Mike,

Any signs indicating that it could be a breccia?

Cheers,

Jeff


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To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:04 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall info.


Look, I just held a 3 kilo individual, broken into pieces, but fit back 
together. It looks to me and others here at the show like an H3. Plenty of 
chondrules actually, I am not sure why you guys can't see chondrules, the 
meteorite is chock-full of them. Very nice stone, certainly not an H5 or 
6, could be H3 or 4 would be my guess, leaning toward 3.


It is a nice meteorite, but it sure looks like a pile of it is in Tucson 
right now.


By the way, Room 184 at the Inn Suites is OPEN! Moritz Karl, Eric Olsen, 
Jim Strope and myself are up and running. The weather is fine, and it 
looks like meteorites are a lot sparser this year than ever before.

Look forward to seeing all who are coming.
Michael Farmer
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[meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall info.

2009-01-28 Thread Michael Farmer
Look, I just held a 3 kilo individual, broken into pieces, but fit back 
together. It looks to me and others here at the show like an H3. Plenty of 
chondrules actually, I am not sure why you guys can't see chondrules, the 
meteorite is chock-full of them. Very nice stone, certainly not an H5 or 6, 
could be H3 or 4 would be my guess, leaning toward 3. 

It is a nice meteorite, but it sure looks like a pile of it is in Tucson right 
now. 

By the way, Room 184 at the Inn Suites is OPEN! Moritz Karl, Eric Olsen, Jim 
Strope and myself are up and running. The weather is fine, and it looks like 
meteorites are a lot sparser this year than ever before. 
Look forward to seeing all who are coming. 
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[meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact or movie shooting

2009-01-20 Thread Metorman46
Hello Aziz;

Thank you very much for your  post reporting the new fall,and all the great 
info. that you also posted to the  list.This is very much appreciated by me for 
one and i look forward to your  future posts on such matters.THANK YOU AGAIN.

Best Regards and happy  meteorite hunting; Herman Archer IMCA # 2770.  

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[meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact or movie shooting

2009-01-20 Thread habibi abdelaziz
hi all
i m always a sleep when a war start here next i m i will let an automate 
answering.

ok let's finish 
i ask here the it memeber that each one tell us how many kg have been showed to 
him;and we will see.

in morroco without telling name 
mr zoro has over 160 kilos the bassi zoro???.
mt A has over than 30 kilos
mr y has over than 50 kios
mr s has 5 or 10 kilos

the family tribut that  near tichka has kilos ans kilos and kilos ,,

in morroco all the big dealer refuse to buy it, what happend the guys that 
bought it  has been burned hands with and they try to sell it fast why you 
hurry up mans, you worry about selling fast before more show  , be  amn and 
wait,,

total over 500 kilos will show up in the market ,
back for this man made shooting movie bravo , i will ask redly scott to give 
you a help. NOt  far from this place there is studio of dino de laurentis and 
they have special effect why you do not ask them help.

this team of craps that want to make me look like a jook i don't care and for 
the 1$ k help thanks
i manage and i own two palaces thats worth over 7 millions dollar ,
you can see my website or google palm's hotels and you will that you can worry 
about yourself.

its over if any crap come back here and insult me i will answer with the trued

i wrote to the list like i always do  each fall ; i never lied to the list or 
lied to any one, go to the archives
i do not wnat to sell that falls untill  it's over and the TKW  is known,

you have an other bs story come back ,

what do you know to meteorite you do not know  what is L3 from an H3.

GETTING TIRED  OF ALL THIS .
I DECLARE THE TKW IS  0.0001 MILLIGRAMME  AND YOU SAW IT AND IT FELLS IN 
YOUR HAND?

WHAT ELSE?

please is there any frensh ,usa or gremain team that can come over here and 
let's heard the trued before tucson,because all this is made to export and to 
sel beofre tucson;

what you call a crater would not brook the main mass that is over 80 kilos and 
what i have seen 
one broken stone without crust is 9 kilos and makes 50 to 70 cm than what the 
original stone will be 100 kilos.
where is the small couscous stone they will show up again once the snow is gone,

and please give me a breack

oh my god i give up , enough i enough,

one last thing no one morrocan dealer want to deal with this new fall outside 
the guys that was stuck in the bigining and bought for 0.6$ and now it will 
sell for 500$ kilos or less.

so get back to work

aziz the habibi ; 












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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact

2009-01-19 Thread Michael L Blood
> Hello eric; 
> I was thinking,when i saw the  picture,that it looked like the meteorite dug
> itself into the ground with a  shovel.Now that would be a classification to
> take seriously.Have a great  day.
> Herman Archer IMCA # 2770
That would make it a shovel fall instead of a hammer fall.
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[meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact

2009-01-19 Thread Metorman46
Hello eric;

I was thinking,when i saw the  picture,that it looked like the meteorite dug 
itself into the ground with a  shovel.Now that would be a classification to 
take seriously.Have a great  day.

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact

2009-01-19 Thread Michael L Blood
Looks like a grave people dug with a shovel!
Michael

on 1/19/09 5:35 PM, Eric Twelker at twel...@alaska.net wrote:

> Someone sent me a meteorite a few years ago and claimed it was a fall
> with a crater.  I had my doubts, so I asked for a photo.  He sent
> this:  http://www.meteoritemarket.com/site2(50).jpg
> This was "proof" in his mind.  I still had my doubts.
> Now I'll call on the list experts to say whether this is a crater or
> an impact pit . . .
> 
> Eric Twelker
> 
> 
> On Jan 19, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
> 
>> If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you are crazy.
>> That is a dent in the dirt.
>> Michael Farmer
>> 
>> 
>> --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> From: Abdelaziz Alhyane 
>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
>>> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>> Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM
>>> Dear listees,
>>> Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with
>>> carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where
>>> is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my
>>> pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom
>>> found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you
>>> have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's
>>> your problem which has no influence on the sale of this
>>> meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have
>>> it, let other jerks talk, they have  and will have nothing,
>>> they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike
>>> purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road
>>> and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his
>>> slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as
>>> matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost
>>> hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help
>>> them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed.
>>> Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this
>>> fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to
>>> reply, so don't try to get info and go away.
>>> All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps
>>> data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be
>>> published on the meteote bultin.
>>> dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted
>>> stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might
>>> get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see.
>>> Cheers
>>> Aziz
>>> NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any
>>> need for a piece, contact me off lis at :
>>> alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060
>>> 
>>> Alhyane abdelaziz
>>> Taliouine center
>>> 83500 Morocco
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact

2009-01-19 Thread Eric Twelker
Actually, those are two mattocks--and if one looks closely, you can  
see mattock or shovel marks all the way down.  Yes, I'd say a grave  
too.  Amusing . . .

Eric


On Jan 19, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Greg Hupe wrote:


Hello Eric,

It likes like a grave, complete with cross!

Best regards,
Greg


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- Original Message - From: "Eric Twelker" 
To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact



Someone sent me a meteorite a few years ago and claimed it was a fall
with a crater.  I had my doubts, so I asked for a photo.  He sent   
this: http://www.meteoritemarket.com/site2(50).jpg

This was "proof" in his mind.  I still had my doubts.
Now I'll call on the list experts to say whether this is a crater  
or  an impact pit . . .


Eric Twelker


On Jan 19, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:

If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you are crazy.   
That is a dent in the dirt.

Michael Farmer


--- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane  
 wrote:



From: Abdelaziz Alhyane 
Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM
Dear listees,
Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with
carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where
is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my
pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom
found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you
have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's
your problem which has no influence on the sale of this
meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have
it, let other jerks talk, they have  and will have nothing,
they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike
purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road
and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his
slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as
matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost
hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help
them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed.
Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this
fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to
reply, so don't try to get info and go away.
All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps
data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be
published on the meteote bultin.
dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted
stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might
get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see.
Cheers
Aziz
NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any
need for a piece, contact me off lis at :
alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact

2009-01-19 Thread Greg Hupe

Hello Eric,

It likes like a grave, complete with cross!

Best regards,
Greg


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- Original Message - 
From: "Eric Twelker" 

To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact



Someone sent me a meteorite a few years ago and claimed it was a fall
with a crater.  I had my doubts, so I asked for a photo.  He sent  this: 
http://www.meteoritemarket.com/site2(50).jpg

This was "proof" in his mind.  I still had my doubts.
Now I'll call on the list experts to say whether this is a crater or  an 
impact pit . . .


Eric Twelker


On Jan 19, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:

If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you are crazy.  That is 
a dent in the dirt.

Michael Farmer


--- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane  
wrote:



From: Abdelaziz Alhyane 
Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM
Dear listees,
Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with
carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where
is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my
pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom
found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you
have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's
your problem which has no influence on the sale of this
meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have
it, let other jerks talk, they have  and will have nothing,
they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike
purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road
and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his
slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as
matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost
hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help
them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed.
Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this
fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to
reply, so don't try to get info and go away.
All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps
data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be
published on the meteote bultin.
dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted
stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might
get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see.
Cheers
Aziz
NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any
need for a piece, contact me off lis at :
alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060

Alhyane abdelaziz
Taliouine center
83500 Morocco










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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact

2009-01-19 Thread Eric Twelker

Someone sent me a meteorite a few years ago and claimed it was a fall
with a crater.  I had my doubts, so I asked for a photo.  He sent  
this:  http://www.meteoritemarket.com/site2(50).jpg

This was "proof" in his mind.  I still had my doubts.
Now I'll call on the list experts to say whether this is a crater or  
an impact pit . . .


Eric Twelker


On Jan 19, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:

If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you are crazy.  
That is a dent in the dirt.

Michael Farmer


--- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane   
wrote:



From: Abdelaziz Alhyane 
Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM
Dear listees,
Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with
carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where
is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my
pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom
found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you
have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's
your problem which has no influence on the sale of this
meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have
it, let other jerks talk, they have  and will have nothing,
they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike
purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road
and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his
slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as
matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost
hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help
them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed.
Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this
fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to
reply, so don't try to get info and go away.
All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps
data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be
published on the meteote bultin.
dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted
stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might
get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see.
Cheers
Aziz
NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any
need for a piece, contact me off lis at :
alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060

Alhyane abdelaziz
Taliouine center
83500 Morocco










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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact

2009-01-19 Thread Abdelaziz Alhyane
If you don't like facts, don't read and reply. back off please.
Aziz alhyane


--- On Mon, 1/19/09, Mark Grossman  wrote:

> From: Mark Grossman 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
> To: "Abdelaziz Alhyane" , 
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, meteorite...@yahoo.com
> Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:28 PM
> If you want to talk about this in more detail, please do it
> off list.
> 
> Mark Grossman
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Abdelaziz Alhyane"
> 
> To: ;
> 
> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
> 
> 
> > Mike, be a man and let us talk about all your trips to
> Morocco and all you
> lies to you customers and your partners, I have tents of
> questions, will be
> able to reply honestly ?
> > Aziz Alhyane
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane
> 
> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Abdelaziz Alhyane
> 
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/
> fact
> > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com,
> meteorite...@yahoo.com
> > > Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:24 PM
> > > Let people know where you pictured Bensour
> pieces. you are a
> > > robber, everybody knows that, nwa 482 was 1280g
> where was
> > > the rest?, it was the reason of a big house and
> the last
> > > Model of Toyota and additional accessories.
> > > The cartaer you've seen is the only whole we
> can found,
> > > the pieces are on that place. do you have some
> lies.
> > > please mike, get people who you owe the money
> their .
> > > Aziz
> > >
> > > --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Michael Farmer
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Michael Farmer
> 
> > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan
> fall/ fact
> > > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com,
> > > "Abdelaziz Alhyane"
> > > 
> > > > Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:13 PM
> > > > If you think that hole in the photos is a
> crater, you
> > > are
> > > > crazy. That is a dent in the dirt.
> > > > Michael Farmer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > From: Abdelaziz Alhyane
> > > > 
> > > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan
> fall/ fact
> > > > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > > > > Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM
> > > > > Dear listees,
> > > > >  Now, you've seen the very small
> crater;
> > > campar it
> > > > with
> > > > > carancas crater which was selling for
> $50/g and
> > > more,
> > > > where
> > > > > is the people telling bull shits on the
> list? I
> > > have
> > > > my
> > > > > pictures with the crater and the local
> > > inhabitation
> > > > whom
> > > > > found it, was there hundereds of
> kilograms? show
> > > us
> > > > what you
> > > > > have!! if you just like typping on a
> keyboard,
> > > > that's
> > > > > your problem which has no influence on
> the sale
> > > of
> > > > this
> > > > > meteorite, this is a cool fall only the
> > > trustwothy
> > > > guys have
> > > > > it, let other jerks talk, they have 
> and will
> > > have
> > > > nothing,
> > > > > they all are liars, talking numbers and
> citoirs,
> > > mike
> > > > > purchased Bensour from a dealer and
> took it near
> > > to a
> > > > road
> > > > > and prentend it was bensour
> strewnfiel,( if mike
> > > or
> > > > his
> > > > > slave were to bensour i'm the
> mother of
> > > tirizza as
> > > > > matteo said before) for those whom
> pretendiing
> > > they
> > > > lost
> > > > > hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an
> association
> > > to
> > > > help
> > > > > them to recuperate their money!! $1k
> from me is
> > > > guaranteed.
> > > > >  Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a
> fine
> > > piece of
> > > > this
> > > > > fall, I have some, only serious

Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact

2009-01-19 Thread Michael Farmer
Considering the fact that I never dealt with you, did I? 
Then I doubt you have anything of interest other than the thousands of rumors, 
millions of $$$ sold, suitcases of money hiddenn, how many times I went to jail 
in Morocco, blah blah blah. 
I asked for true information on the new fall, you are going crazy attacking me? 
What motive?
Michael Farmer


--- On Mon, 1/19/09, Mark Grossman  wrote:

> From: Mark Grossman 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
> To: "Abdelaziz Alhyane" , 
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, meteorite...@yahoo.com
> Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:28 PM
> If you want to talk about this in more detail, please do it
> off list.
> 
> Mark Grossman
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Abdelaziz Alhyane"
> 
> To: ;
> 
> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
> 
> 
> > Mike, be a man and let us talk about all your trips to
> Morocco and all you
> lies to you customers and your partners, I have tents of
> questions, will be
> able to reply honestly ?
> > Aziz Alhyane
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane
> 
> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Abdelaziz Alhyane
> 
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/
> fact
> > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com,
> meteorite...@yahoo.com
> > > Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:24 PM
> > > Let people know where you pictured Bensour
> pieces. you are a
> > > robber, everybody knows that, nwa 482 was 1280g
> where was
> > > the rest?, it was the reason of a big house and
> the last
> > > Model of Toyota and additional accessories.
> > > The cartaer you've seen is the only whole we
> can found,
> > > the pieces are on that place. do you have some
> lies.
> > > please mike, get people who you owe the money
> their .
> > > Aziz
> > >
> > > --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Michael Farmer
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Michael Farmer
> 
> > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan
> fall/ fact
> > > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com,
> > > "Abdelaziz Alhyane"
> > > 
> > > > Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:13 PM
> > > > If you think that hole in the photos is a
> crater, you
> > > are
> > > > crazy. That is a dent in the dirt.
> > > > Michael Farmer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > From: Abdelaziz Alhyane
> > > > 
> > > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan
> fall/ fact
> > > > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > > > > Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM
> > > > > Dear listees,
> > > > >  Now, you've seen the very small
> crater;
> > > campar it
> > > > with
> > > > > carancas crater which was selling for
> $50/g and
> > > more,
> > > > where
> > > > > is the people telling bull shits on the
> list? I
> > > have
> > > > my
> > > > > pictures with the crater and the local
> > > inhabitation
> > > > whom
> > > > > found it, was there hundereds of
> kilograms? show
> > > us
> > > > what you
> > > > > have!! if you just like typping on a
> keyboard,
> > > > that's
> > > > > your problem which has no influence on
> the sale
> > > of
> > > > this
> > > > > meteorite, this is a cool fall only the
> > > trustwothy
> > > > guys have
> > > > > it, let other jerks talk, they have 
> and will
> > > have
> > > > nothing,
> > > > > they all are liars, talking numbers and
> citoirs,
> > > mike
> > > > > purchased Bensour from a dealer and
> took it near
> > > to a
> > > > road
> > > > > and prentend it was bensour
> strewnfiel,( if mike
> > > or
> > > > his
> > > > > slave were to bensour i'm the
> mother of
> > > tirizza as
> > > > > matteo said before) for those whom
> pretendiing
> > > they
> > > > lost
> > > > > hunderdes of $s, we have to set 

Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact

2009-01-19 Thread Abdelaziz Alhyane
I don't care for your Tucson, I want to tell everybody the truth. you must shut 
up, and talk about Moroccans and moroccan falls, if you do, I can stop.
Aziz Alhyane


--- On Mon, 1/19/09, Michael Farmer  wrote:

> From: Michael Farmer 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, "Abdelaziz Alhyane" 
> 
> Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:26 PM
> Ok Aziz, 
> Whatever, 
> 
> Heard this all before. 
> 
> Michael Farmer
> 
> We will see what turns up in Tucson.
> 
> --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane
>  wrote:
> 
> > From: Abdelaziz Alhyane
> 
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
> > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com,
> meteorite...@yahoo.com
> > Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:21 PM
> > Let people know where you pictured Bensour pieces. you
> are a
> > robber, everybody knows that, nwa 482 was 1280g where
> was
> > the rest?, it was the reason of a big house and the
> last
> > Model of Toyota and additional accessories.
> >  The cartaer you've seen is the only whole we can
> > found, the pieces are on that place. do you have some
> lies.
> >  please mike, get people who you owe the money their
> .
> > Aziz
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Michael Farmer
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Michael Farmer
> 
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/
> fact
> > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com,
> > "Abdelaziz Alhyane"
> > 
> > > Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:13 PM
> > > If you think that hole in the photos is a crater,
> you
> > are
> > > crazy. That is a dent in the dirt.
> > > Michael Farmer
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane
> > >  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > From: Abdelaziz Alhyane
> > > 
> > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/
> fact
> > > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > > > Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM
> > > > Dear listees, 
> > > >  Now, you've seen the very small crater;
> > campar it
> > > with
> > > > carancas crater which was selling for $50/g
> and
> > more,
> > > where
> > > > is the people telling bull shits on the
> list? I
> > have
> > > my
> > > > pictures with the crater and the local
> > inhabitation
> > > whom
> > > > found it, was there hundereds of kilograms?
> show
> > us
> > > what you
> > > > have!! if you just like typping on a
> keyboard,
> > > that's
> > > > your problem which has no influence on the
> sale
> > of
> > > this
> > > > meteorite, this is a cool fall only the
> > trustwothy
> > > guys have
> > > > it, let other jerks talk, they have  and
> will
> > have
> > > nothing,
> > > > they all are liars, talking numbers and
> citoirs,
> > mike
> > > > purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it
> near
> > to a
> > > road
> > > > and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if
> mike
> > or
> > > his
> > > > slave were to bensour i'm the mother of
> > tirizza as
> > > > matteo said before) for those whom
> pretendiing
> > they
> > > lost
> > > > hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an
> association
> > to
> > > help
> > > > them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me
> is
> > > guaranteed. 
> > > >  Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine
> > piece of
> > > this
> > > > fall, I have some, only serious collectors,
> I
> > know who
> > > to
> > > > reply, so don't try to get info and go
> away.
> > > >  All in all, a sample was sent to be
> analyzed, I
> > have
> > > jps
> > > > data and the pics of myself and the crater
> which
> > will
> > > be
> > > > published on the meteote bultin.
> > > > dear collectors, let me tell you that the
> > complete
> > > crusted
> > > > stones are impossible to get, if you are
> lucky,
> > you
> > > might
> > > > get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order
> and
> > let me
> > > see.
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Aziz
> > > >  NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage
> are
> > sold,
> > > any
> > > > need for a piece, contact me off lis at :
> > > > alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060
> > > > 
> > > > Alhyane abdelaziz
> > > > Taliouine center
> > > > 83500 Morocco
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > >
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact

2009-01-19 Thread Chris Peterson
I think it is technically important to distinguish between a "crater", which 
is caused by an object traveling at more than terminal velocity, and an 
"impact pit", which is just the usual small hole or dent (depending on 
ground quality) that any slow falling object (including most meteorites) 
will create.


Chris

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- Original Message - 
From: "Abdelaziz Alhyane" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 6:01 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact



Dear listees,
Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with carancas crater 
which was selling for $50/g and more, where is the people telling bull 
shits on the list? I have my pictures with the crater and the local 
inhabitation whom found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what 
you have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's your problem 
which has no influence on the sale of this meteorite, this is a cool fall 
only the trustwothy guys have it, let other jerks talk, they have  and 
will have nothing, they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike 
purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road and prentend it 
was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his slave were to bensour i'm the 
mother of tirizza as matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they 
lost hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help them to 
recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed.
Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this fall, I have 
some, only serious collectors, I know who to reply, so don't try to get 
info and go away.
All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps data and the pics 
of myself and the crater which will be published on the meteote bultin.
dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted stones are 
impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might get a 70% crusted piece, 
give me you order and let me see.

Cheers
Aziz
NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any need for a piece, 
contact me off lis at : alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060


Alhyane abdelaziz


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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact

2009-01-19 Thread Mark Grossman
If you want to talk about this in more detail, please do it off list.

Mark Grossman

- Original Message - 
From: "Abdelaziz Alhyane" 
To: ; 
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact


> Mike, be a man and let us talk about all your trips to Morocco and all you
lies to you customers and your partners, I have tents of questions, will be
able to reply honestly ?
> Aziz Alhyane
>
>
> --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane 
wrote:
>
> > From: Abdelaziz Alhyane 
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
> > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, meteorite...@yahoo.com
> > Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:24 PM
> > Let people know where you pictured Bensour pieces. you are a
> > robber, everybody knows that, nwa 482 was 1280g where was
> > the rest?, it was the reason of a big house and the last
> > Model of Toyota and additional accessories.
> > The cartaer you've seen is the only whole we can found,
> > the pieces are on that place. do you have some lies.
> > please mike, get people who you owe the money their .
> > Aziz
> >
> > --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Michael Farmer
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > From: Michael Farmer 
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
> > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com,
> > "Abdelaziz Alhyane"
> > 
> > > Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:13 PM
> > > If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you
> > are
> > > crazy. That is a dent in the dirt.
> > > Michael Farmer
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Abdelaziz Alhyane
> > > 
> > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
> > > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > > > Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM
> > > > Dear listees,
> > > >  Now, you've seen the very small crater;
> > campar it
> > > with
> > > > carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and
> > more,
> > > where
> > > > is the people telling bull shits on the list? I
> > have
> > > my
> > > > pictures with the crater and the local
> > inhabitation
> > > whom
> > > > found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show
> > us
> > > what you
> > > > have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard,
> > > that's
> > > > your problem which has no influence on the sale
> > of
> > > this
> > > > meteorite, this is a cool fall only the
> > trustwothy
> > > guys have
> > > > it, let other jerks talk, they have  and will
> > have
> > > nothing,
> > > > they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs,
> > mike
> > > > purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near
> > to a
> > > road
> > > > and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike
> > or
> > > his
> > > > slave were to bensour i'm the mother of
> > tirizza as
> > > > matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing
> > they
> > > lost
> > > > hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association
> > to
> > > help
> > > > them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is
> > > guaranteed.
> > > >  Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine
> > piece of
> > > this
> > > > fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I
> > know who
> > > to
> > > > reply, so don't try to get info and go away.
> > > >  All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I
> > have
> > > jps
> > > > data and the pics of myself and the crater which
> > will
> > > be
> > > > published on the meteote bultin.
> > > > dear collectors, let me tell you that the
> > complete
> > > crusted
> > > > stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky,
> > you
> > > might
> > > > get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and
> > let me
> > > see.
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Aziz
> > > >  NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are
> > sold,
> > > any
> > > > need for a piece, contact me off lis at :
> > > > alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060
> > > >
> > > > Alhyane abdelaziz
> > > > Taliouine center
> > > > 83500 Morocco
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact

2009-01-19 Thread Abdelaziz Alhyane
Mike, be a man and let us talk about all your trips to Morocco and all you lies 
to you customers and your partners, I have tents of questions, will be able to 
reply honestly ?
Aziz Alhyane


--- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane  wrote:

> From: Abdelaziz Alhyane 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, meteorite...@yahoo.com
> Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:24 PM
> Let people know where you pictured Bensour pieces. you are a
> robber, everybody knows that, nwa 482 was 1280g where was
> the rest?, it was the reason of a big house and the last
> Model of Toyota and additional accessories.
> The cartaer you've seen is the only whole we can found,
> the pieces are on that place. do you have some lies.
> please mike, get people who you owe the money their .
> Aziz
> 
> --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Michael Farmer
>  wrote:
> 
> > From: Michael Farmer 
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
> > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com,
> "Abdelaziz Alhyane"
> 
> > Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:13 PM
> > If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you
> are
> > crazy. That is a dent in the dirt.
> > Michael Farmer
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Abdelaziz Alhyane
> > 
> > > Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
> > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > > Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM
> > > Dear listees, 
> > >  Now, you've seen the very small crater;
> campar it
> > with
> > > carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and
> more,
> > where
> > > is the people telling bull shits on the list? I
> have
> > my
> > > pictures with the crater and the local
> inhabitation
> > whom
> > > found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show
> us
> > what you
> > > have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard,
> > that's
> > > your problem which has no influence on the sale
> of
> > this
> > > meteorite, this is a cool fall only the
> trustwothy
> > guys have
> > > it, let other jerks talk, they have  and will
> have
> > nothing,
> > > they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs,
> mike
> > > purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near
> to a
> > road
> > > and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike
> or
> > his
> > > slave were to bensour i'm the mother of
> tirizza as
> > > matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing
> they
> > lost
> > > hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association
> to
> > help
> > > them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is
> > guaranteed. 
> > >  Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine
> piece of
> > this
> > > fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I
> know who
> > to
> > > reply, so don't try to get info and go away.
> > >  All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I
> have
> > jps
> > > data and the pics of myself and the crater which
> will
> > be
> > > published on the meteote bultin.
> > > dear collectors, let me tell you that the
> complete
> > crusted
> > > stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky,
> you
> > might
> > > get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and
> let me
> > see.
> > > Cheers
> > > Aziz
> > >  NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are
> sold,
> > any
> > > need for a piece, contact me off lis at :
> > > alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060
> > > 
> > > Alhyane abdelaziz
> > > Taliouine center
> > > 83500 Morocco
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact

2009-01-19 Thread Michael Farmer

Ok Aziz, 
Whatever, 

Heard this all before. 

Michael Farmer

We will see what turns up in Tucson.

--- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane  wrote:

> From: Abdelaziz Alhyane 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, meteorite...@yahoo.com
> Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:21 PM
> Let people know where you pictured Bensour pieces. you are a
> robber, everybody knows that, nwa 482 was 1280g where was
> the rest?, it was the reason of a big house and the last
> Model of Toyota and additional accessories.
>  The cartaer you've seen is the only whole we can
> found, the pieces are on that place. do you have some lies.
>  please mike, get people who you owe the money their .
> Aziz
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Michael Farmer
>  wrote:
> 
> > From: Michael Farmer 
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
> > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com,
> "Abdelaziz Alhyane"
> 
> > Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:13 PM
> > If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you
> are
> > crazy. That is a dent in the dirt.
> > Michael Farmer
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Abdelaziz Alhyane
> > 
> > > Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
> > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > > Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM
> > > Dear listees, 
> > >  Now, you've seen the very small crater;
> campar it
> > with
> > > carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and
> more,
> > where
> > > is the people telling bull shits on the list? I
> have
> > my
> > > pictures with the crater and the local
> inhabitation
> > whom
> > > found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show
> us
> > what you
> > > have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard,
> > that's
> > > your problem which has no influence on the sale
> of
> > this
> > > meteorite, this is a cool fall only the
> trustwothy
> > guys have
> > > it, let other jerks talk, they have  and will
> have
> > nothing,
> > > they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs,
> mike
> > > purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near
> to a
> > road
> > > and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike
> or
> > his
> > > slave were to bensour i'm the mother of
> tirizza as
> > > matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing
> they
> > lost
> > > hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association
> to
> > help
> > > them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is
> > guaranteed. 
> > >  Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine
> piece of
> > this
> > > fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I
> know who
> > to
> > > reply, so don't try to get info and go away.
> > >  All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I
> have
> > jps
> > > data and the pics of myself and the crater which
> will
> > be
> > > published on the meteote bultin.
> > > dear collectors, let me tell you that the
> complete
> > crusted
> > > stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky,
> you
> > might
> > > get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and
> let me
> > see.
> > > Cheers
> > > Aziz
> > >  NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are
> sold,
> > any
> > > need for a piece, contact me off lis at :
> > > alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060
> > > 
> > > Alhyane abdelaziz
> > > Taliouine center
> > > 83500 Morocco
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact

2009-01-19 Thread Abdelaziz Alhyane

Let people know where you pictured Bensour pieces. you are a robber, everybody 
knows that, nwa 482 was 1280g where was the rest?, it was the reason of a big 
house and the last Model of Toyota and additional accessories.
The cartaer you've seen is the only whole we can found, the pieces are on that 
place. do you have some lies.
please mike, get people who you owe the money their .
Aziz

--- On Mon, 1/19/09, Michael Farmer  wrote:

> From: Michael Farmer 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, "Abdelaziz Alhyane" 
> 
> Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:13 PM
> If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you are
> crazy. That is a dent in the dirt.
> Michael Farmer
> 
> 
> --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane
>  wrote:
> 
> > From: Abdelaziz Alhyane
> 
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
> > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM
> > Dear listees, 
> >  Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it
> with
> > carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more,
> where
> > is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have
> my
> > pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation
> whom
> > found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us
> what you
> > have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard,
> that's
> > your problem which has no influence on the sale of
> this
> > meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy
> guys have
> > it, let other jerks talk, they have  and will have
> nothing,
> > they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike
> > purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a
> road
> > and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or
> his
> > slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as
> > matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they
> lost
> > hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to
> help
> > them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is
> guaranteed. 
> >  Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of
> this
> > fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who
> to
> > reply, so don't try to get info and go away.
> >  All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have
> jps
> > data and the pics of myself and the crater which will
> be
> > published on the meteote bultin.
> > dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete
> crusted
> > stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you
> might
> > get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me
> see.
> > Cheers
> > Aziz
> >  NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold,
> any
> > need for a piece, contact me off lis at :
> > alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060
> > 
> > Alhyane abdelaziz
> > Taliouine center
> > 83500 Morocco
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact

2009-01-19 Thread Michael Farmer
If you think that hole in the photos is a crater, you are crazy. That is a dent 
in the dirt.
Michael Farmer


--- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane  wrote:

> From: Abdelaziz Alhyane 
> Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:01 PM
> Dear listees, 
>  Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with
> carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where
> is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my
> pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom
> found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you
> have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's
> your problem which has no influence on the sale of this
> meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have
> it, let other jerks talk, they have  and will have nothing,
> they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike
> purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road
> and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his
> slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as
> matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost
> hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help
> them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed. 
>  Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this
> fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to
> reply, so don't try to get info and go away.
>  All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps
> data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be
> published on the meteote bultin.
> dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted
> stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might
> get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see.
> Cheers
> Aziz
>  NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any
> need for a piece, contact me off lis at :
> alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060
> 
> Alhyane abdelaziz
> Taliouine center
> 83500 Morocco
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact

2009-01-19 Thread Abdelaziz Alhyane
Dear collectors,
 I've forget (a)  my main email address is: alhyane_abdela...@yahoo.com
My best
Aziz


--- On Mon, 1/19/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane  wrote:

> From: Abdelaziz Alhyane 
> Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 5:01 PM
> Dear listees, 
>  Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with
> carancas crater which was selling for $50/g and more, where
> is the people telling bull shits on the list? I have my
> pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom
> found it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you
> have!! if you just like typping on a keyboard, that's
> your problem which has no influence on the sale of this
> meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have
> it, let other jerks talk, they have  and will have nothing,
> they all are liars, talking numbers and citoirs, mike
> purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a road
> and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his
> slave were to bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as
> matteo said before) for those whom pretendiing they lost
> hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help
> them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed. 
>  Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this
> fall, I have some, only serious collectors, I know who to
> reply, so don't try to get info and go away.
>  All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps
> data and the pics of myself and the crater which will be
> published on the meteote bultin.
> dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted
> stones are impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might
> get a 70% crusted piece, give me you order and let me see.
> Cheers
> Aziz
>  NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any
> need for a piece, contact me off lis at :
> alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060
> 
> Alhyane abdelaziz
> Taliouine center
> 83500 Morocco
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall/ fact

2009-01-19 Thread Abdelaziz Alhyane
Dear listees, 
 Now, you've seen the very small crater; campar it with carancas crater which 
was selling for $50/g and more, where is the people telling bull shits on the 
list? I have my pictures with the crater and the local inhabitation whom found 
it, was there hundereds of kilograms? show us what you have!! if you just like 
typping on a keyboard, that's your problem which has no influence on the sale 
of this meteorite, this is a cool fall only the trustwothy guys have it, let 
other jerks talk, they have  and will have nothing, they all are liars, talking 
numbers and citoirs, mike purchased Bensour from a dealer and took it near to a 
road and prentend it was bensour strewnfiel,( if mike or his slave were to 
bensour i'm the mother of tirizza as matteo said before) for those whom 
pretendiing they lost hunderdes of $s, we have to set up an association to help 
them to recuperate their money!! $1k from me is guaranteed. 
 Anyway, if anybody is willing to get a fine piece of this fall, I have some, 
only serious collectors, I know who to reply, so don't try to get info and go 
away.
 All in all, a sample was sent to be analyzed, I have jps data and the pics of 
myself and the crater which will be published on the meteote bultin.
dear collectors, let me tell you that the complete crusted stones are 
impossible to get, if you are lucky, you might get a 70% crusted piece, give me 
you order and let me see.
Cheers
Aziz
 NB . all the pieces pictured at y webpage are sold, any need for a piece, 
contact me off lis at : alhyne_abdela...@yahoo.com or +21261655060

Alhyane abdelaziz
Taliouine center
83500 Morocco








  

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.

2009-01-17 Thread Don Rawlings
Good Points Martin.  I can not wait to see photos of the area where this 
meteorite fell.  The Atlas Mountans sound like an exotic location for a new 
fall.

Don Rawlings

--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Martin Altmann  wrote:


From: Martin Altmann 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 7:45 AM


humhem, 

don't want to sound cheekily, but the fall of a new meteorite is a joyful
event and not a calamity or a disgrace..
Isn't it?

Well, can't understand the public poison in that debate about the new fall,
just a little patience and then we'll see, what had happened, what has been
found ect.

Meanwhile some boring sentimentalities.:-)

When I was a little boy, buying my first meteorite, there existed 2000
finds, 1000 falls,
90% of them locked away in institutions, and at the best available in single
micro-bogey-sized crumbs.
I noticed the Calcalong sensation, I saw DaG 400 and 262 arriving, asking
prices of a quarter of a million per gram.
Whenever I pointed my telescope to the Moon, I dreamt of holding a stone
from up there in my hands, like those white men on the iconostasis of space
flight.
Mars I observed of course too, but never it came to my mind, that a stone
from there would have made it to Earth,
cause Zagami had on his label still standing: "eucrite".
Today I handle main masses of Moon and Mars. And Mars and Moon are ours. We
even earn money with them (even dicing it in little pieces, making little
Martin's old dream come true for thousands of people).

I got in my hands types and stones, which I never could get in my possession
on the "classical names" sector, simply because they would not be affordable
or available or in some cases, simply because such stones where not known so
far.
Yah, it costs us endless work, nerves, health, sometimes frustration,
personal and financial risks, also skills in recognizing and experience are
needed,
but in the final consequence, were it we, who picked up the suspicious stone
in desert?

This year we will reach NWA-number 6000.
Twice as much finds as meteorites in total from the 2000 years before
existed, when I started.
The rarest types became readily available to the collectors and science and
so low rates were asked as unseen in the 200 years of meteorite trade
before.
It may sound unwelcomely to the classic/conservative collectors, but aside
Antarctica,
in meteoritics of the last two decades, the progress of the subject and
planetology, the most recoveries by number and importance were made in
research on the hot desert finds, where NWAs outnumber all other desert
finds together.
These NWAs were not found by scientific expeditions and campaigns,
they were hunted and brought to light by the people of these NWA-countries
and channelled through Morocco.

The meteorite community - private collectors and professional scientists -
profited on the work of the Moroccans.

The structures in Morocco grew in a different way, as we used to see from
professional meteorite hunters or scientific hunts.
In turn for this deficiency, the collectors, universities and museums don't
have to pay anymore 500 or 2000$ a gram for a howardite, but 5-40$, not
1000$ for a bencubbinite, but 50$ or less, not 800-1200$ for an Acapulcoite,
but 50$ and so on and not anymore 1000$++/g for a H5 W3 recovered in
Antarctica - and they have such a choice of exotic and unique stones, they
never would have dreamt of.
And in many respects resemble the NWAs the Antarctic finds, which have lost
due the migration of the ice all there strewnfield information, the
information about break-up and fall angle and the original weight of the
fall and which are numbered in the field, pairings put together later in the
lab.

And if there one can find other business standards and maybe here and there
a lousy ethics and if Morocco is shark-tank,
so what? The collector hasn't to care for,
as long as there are people working as a buffer, taking all risks on their
shoulders.

El Hammami, Zag, Bensour, Amgala, Bensour, Benguerir, Oum Dreyga, Chergach,
Bassikounou
They were the cheapest observed falls of their times and btw. in history
(e.g. 15 years after the 2 tons fall of Pultusk, the average price on the
world market was 7.4$/g - and it was the cheapest stone meteorite of its
time, the Gao, the NWA 869 of the 19th century). They yielded excellent to
fantastic stones, which a collector couldn't get hold of with the other
falls, simply because they produced not such stones or they were very
expensive.

Let's see, what this fall will bring and let's don't forget the other side
of the medal, what for an immense contribution and enrichment the finds and
falls from this corner of the world meant to the World of meteorites.

Have a nice and peaceful weekend!
Martin

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.

2009-01-17 Thread Martin Altmann
humhem, 

don't want to sound cheekily, but the fall of a new meteorite is a joyful
event and not a calamity or a disgrace..
Isn't it?

Well, can't understand the public poison in that debate about the new fall,
just a little patience and then we'll see, what had happened, what has been
found ect.

Meanwhile some boring sentimentalities.:-)

When I was a little boy, buying my first meteorite, there existed 2000
finds, 1000 falls,
90% of them locked away in institutions, and at the best available in single
micro-bogey-sized crumbs.
I noticed the Calcalong sensation, I saw DaG 400 and 262 arriving, asking
prices of a quarter of a million per gram.
Whenever I pointed my telescope to the Moon, I dreamt of holding a stone
from up there in my hands, like those white men on the iconostasis of space
flight.
Mars I observed of course too, but never it came to my mind, that a stone
from there would have made it to Earth,
cause Zagami had on his label still standing: "eucrite".
Today I handle main masses of Moon and Mars. And Mars and Moon are ours. We
even earn money with them (even dicing it in little pieces, making little
Martin's old dream come true for thousands of people).

I got in my hands types and stones, which I never could get in my possession
on the "classical names" sector, simply because they would not be affordable
or available or in some cases, simply because such stones where not known so
far.
Yah, it costs us endless work, nerves, health, sometimes frustration,
personal and financial risks, also skills in recognizing and experience are
needed,
but in the final consequence, were it we, who picked up the suspicious stone
in desert?

This year we will reach NWA-number 6000.
Twice as much finds as meteorites in total from the 2000 years before
existed, when I started.
The rarest types became readily available to the collectors and science and
so low rates were asked as unseen in the 200 years of meteorite trade
before.
It may sound unwelcomely to the classic/conservative collectors, but aside
Antarctica,
in meteoritics of the last two decades, the progress of the subject and
planetology, the most recoveries by number and importance were made in
research on the hot desert finds, where NWAs outnumber all other desert
finds together.
These NWAs were not found by scientific expeditions and campaigns,
they were hunted and brought to light by the people of these NWA-countries
and channelled through Morocco.

The meteorite community - private collectors and professional scientists -
profited on the work of the Moroccans.

The structures in Morocco grew in a different way, as we used to see from
professional meteorite hunters or scientific hunts.
In turn for this deficiency, the collectors, universities and museums don't
have to pay anymore 500 or 2000$ a gram for a howardite, but 5-40$, not
1000$ for a bencubbinite, but 50$ or less, not 800-1200$ for an Acapulcoite,
but 50$ and so on and not anymore 1000$++/g for a H5 W3 recovered in
Antarctica - and they have such a choice of exotic and unique stones, they
never would have dreamt of.
And in many respects resemble the NWAs the Antarctic finds, which have lost
due the migration of the ice all there strewnfield information, the
information about break-up and fall angle and the original weight of the
fall and which are numbered in the field, pairings put together later in the
lab.

And if there one can find other business standards and maybe here and there
a lousy ethics and if Morocco is shark-tank,
so what? The collector hasn't to care for,
as long as there are people working as a buffer, taking all risks on their
shoulders.

El Hammami, Zag, Bensour, Amgala, Bensour, Benguerir, Oum Dreyga, Chergach,
Bassikounou
They were the cheapest observed falls of their times and btw. in history
(e.g. 15 years after the 2 tons fall of Pultusk, the average price on the
world market was 7.4$/g - and it was the cheapest stone meteorite of its
time, the Gao, the NWA 869 of the 19th century). They yielded excellent to
fantastic stones, which a collector couldn't get hold of with the other
falls, simply because they produced not such stones or they were very
expensive.

Let's see, what this fall will bring and let's don't forget the other side
of the medal, what for an immense contribution and enrichment the finds and
falls from this corner of the world meant to the World of meteorites.

Have a nice and peaceful weekend!
Martin

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.

2009-01-16 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites

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Da : Said Haddany 
A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
Data : Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:39:47 -0800 (PST)

> sure that there is not much of this material available.
> The price would probably go up to $8 or 10/gr at tucson
> show after everybody gets certain that yes it is a new
> fall and only little of it is available.. 
>   
> 
>   Said Haddany


I have heard this sound many times from Moroccan dealers: "
buy buy seen few pieces its available of this meteorite
".and afer few week its arrive other kilos of this
material.
8-10/gr.? If I have to go a similar price, I prefear buy a
piece from the Canada fall

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.

2009-01-16 Thread mail
Hi Said
All this may be true, but many collectors and dealers are hesitant only because 
of the past and rightfully so. Now it may be true that hundreds of kilos did 
not fall, but you can only cry "wolf" so many times before no one hears you. 
8-10/g is a pipe dream my friend. I haven't seen a Moroccan fall that sold for 
that yet in any measurable quantity. Maybe I missed it, so please correct me if 
I am wrong.

For the record, I have 3 Moroccan sources that I trust. Enough to wire 10s of 
thousands to them.  Each has said that this IS a new fall, quantities are 
"small" (open to interpretation). I would assume that means under 40kg for 
Moroccans.  If they are making up stories then my business will end as I do not 
want to do business with liars. Time will tell.

Matt Morgan
Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
P.O. Box 151293
Lakewood, CO 80215 USA

-Original Message-
From: Said Haddany 

Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:39:47 
To: 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.


Hi everybody ,
I was away of pc for tow days to come back and found this hot debate about this 
new fall in Morocco.Some people's aime is to downgrade this new fall in Morocco 
HOWEVER,This would make it very known over all the world and it would make a 
good marketing for it  since there is only few kilos found.If anyone claimes 
that there is hundrads or several kilos he should prove it to the list and show 
the photos of the lot..
Few of US dealers said that thier friends in Morocco told them that there was 
no fall in Tichka,For those i want to say that your friends in Morocco  are not 
able nor lucky to get any of this fall..I am also coming to Tucson show and i 
will prove to everybody that there was a new fall and you all will get sure 
that there is not much of this material available.
The price would probably go up to $8 or 10/gr at tucson show after everybody 
gets certain that yes it is a new fall and only little of it is available.. 
  

  Said Haddany


--- On Fri, 1/16/09, Matthias Bärmann  wrote:

> From: Matthias Bärmann 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
> To: meteorite...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, "Abdelaziz 
> Alhyane" 
> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 12:39 PM
> Of course not, Mike - we simply should be careful with our
> discretions.
> 
> And I can imagine that the experiences one makes between
> dealers could be different from others.
> 
> I personally had to do several times with Moroccans what
> concerns meteorites, on different levels - buying, getting
> information etc. - and all my experiences were pretty good.
> 
> But I didn't want to - as we use to say in German -
> open this well known barrel again.
> 
> A short note only.
> 
> Best, Matthias
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Michael
> Farmer" 
> To: ;
> "Abdelaziz Alhyane"
> ; "Matthias
> Bärmann" 
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
> 
> 
> Matthias,
> Please don't overgeneralize my statement. There are few
> if any dealers on this list who when talking about METEORITE
> TRADERS from Morocco, would disagree that the untruths that
> come from there are not almost completely widespread.
> Amazing how one iron turns into 100 in a week, yet all of
> the people trying to sell to you insists that all the others
> are lying and theirs is the only one available.
> My statement is just that after all the BS, the truth is
> very had to figure out.
> Michael Farmer
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Matthias Bärmann
>  wrote:
> 
> > From: Matthias Bärmann 
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
> > To: meteorite...@yahoo.com,
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, "Abdelaziz
> Alhyane" 
> > Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 11:52 AM
> > >>>>>  Michael Famer wrote:
> > 
> > >>>>>  (...) "Moroccans are
> certainly
> > prone to making up lies, selling crap to anyone with
> money,
> > and scamming everyone". (...)
> > 
> > 
> > Hm, Mike, "All Cretans are liars"
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epimenides_paradox
> > 
> > ???
> > 
> > Best, Matthias
> > 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.

2009-01-16 Thread Michael Farmer
8 or 10$ gram?
Perhaps in
Morocco there is no news of the worldwide
Economic collapse? Good
Luck
Michael farmer

Sent from my iPhone
Michael 


On Jan 16, 2009, at 4:39 PM, Said Haddany  wrote:

Hi everybody ,
I was away of pc for tow days to come back and found this hot debate about this 
new fall in Morocco.Some people's aime is to downgrade this new fall in Morocco 
HOWEVER,This would make it very known over all the world and it would make a 
good marketing for it  since there is only few kilos found.If anyone claimes 
that there is hundrads or several kilos he should prove it to the list and show 
the photos of the lot..
Few of US dealers said that thier friends in Morocco told them that there was 
no fall in Tichka,For those i want to say that your friends in Morocco  are not 
able nor lucky to get any of this fall..I am also coming to Tucson show and i 
will prove to everybody that there was a new fall and you all will get sure 
that there is not much of this material available.
The price would probably go up to $8 or 10/gr at tucson show after everybody 
gets certain that yes it is a new fall and only little of it is available.. 


  Said Haddany


--- On Fri, 1/16/09, Matthias Bärmann  wrote:

From: Matthias Bärmann 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
To: meteorite...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, "Abdelaziz 
Alhyane" 
Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 12:39 PM
Of course not, Mike - we simply should be careful with our
discretions.

And I can imagine that the experiences one makes between
dealers could be different from others.

I personally had to do several times with Moroccans what
concerns meteorites, on different levels - buying, getting
information etc. - and all my experiences were pretty good.

But I didn't want to - as we use to say in German -
open this well known barrel again.

A short note only.

Best, Matthias

- Original Message - From: "Michael
Farmer" 
To: ;
"Abdelaziz Alhyane"
; "Matthias
Bärmann" 
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.


Matthias,
Please don't overgeneralize my statement. There are few
if any dealers on this list who when talking about METEORITE
TRADERS from Morocco, would disagree that the untruths that
come from there are not almost completely widespread.
Amazing how one iron turns into 100 in a week, yet all of
the people trying to sell to you insists that all the others
are lying and theirs is the only one available.
My statement is just that after all the BS, the truth is
very had to figure out.
Michael Farmer


--- On Fri, 1/16/09, Matthias Bärmann
 wrote:

From: Matthias Bärmann 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
To: meteorite...@yahoo.com,
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, "Abdelaziz
Alhyane" 
Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 11:52 AM
Michael Famer wrote:

(...) "Moroccans are
certainly
prone to making up lies, selling crap to anyone with
money,
and scamming everyone". (...)


Hm, Mike, "All Cretans are liars"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epimenides_paradox

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.

2009-01-16 Thread Said Haddany
Hi everybody ,
I was away of pc for tow days to come back and found this hot debate about this 
new fall in Morocco.Some people's aime is to downgrade this new fall in Morocco 
HOWEVER,This would make it very known over all the world and it would make a 
good marketing for it  since there is only few kilos found.If anyone claimes 
that there is hundrads or several kilos he should prove it to the list and show 
the photos of the lot..
Few of US dealers said that thier friends in Morocco told them that there was 
no fall in Tichka,For those i want to say that your friends in Morocco  are not 
able nor lucky to get any of this fall..I am also coming to Tucson show and i 
will prove to everybody that there was a new fall and you all will get sure 
that there is not much of this material available.
The price would probably go up to $8 or 10/gr at tucson show after everybody 
gets certain that yes it is a new fall and only little of it is available.. 
  

  Said Haddany


--- On Fri, 1/16/09, Matthias Bärmann  wrote:

> From: Matthias Bärmann 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
> To: meteorite...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, "Abdelaziz 
> Alhyane" 
> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 12:39 PM
> Of course not, Mike - we simply should be careful with our
> discretions.
> 
> And I can imagine that the experiences one makes between
> dealers could be different from others.
> 
> I personally had to do several times with Moroccans what
> concerns meteorites, on different levels - buying, getting
> information etc. - and all my experiences were pretty good.
> 
> But I didn't want to - as we use to say in German -
> open this well known barrel again.
> 
> A short note only.
> 
> Best, Matthias
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Michael
> Farmer" 
> To: ;
> "Abdelaziz Alhyane"
> ; "Matthias
> Bärmann" 
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
> 
> 
> Matthias,
> Please don't overgeneralize my statement. There are few
> if any dealers on this list who when talking about METEORITE
> TRADERS from Morocco, would disagree that the untruths that
> come from there are not almost completely widespread.
> Amazing how one iron turns into 100 in a week, yet all of
> the people trying to sell to you insists that all the others
> are lying and theirs is the only one available.
> My statement is just that after all the BS, the truth is
> very had to figure out.
> Michael Farmer
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Matthias Bärmann
>  wrote:
> 
> > From: Matthias Bärmann 
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
> > To: meteorite...@yahoo.com,
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, "Abdelaziz
> Alhyane" 
> > Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 11:52 AM
> > >>>>>  Michael Famer wrote:
> > 
> > >>>>>  (...) "Moroccans are
> certainly
> > prone to making up lies, selling crap to anyone with
> money,
> > and scamming everyone". (...)
> > 
> > 
> > Hm, Mike, "All Cretans are liars"
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epimenides_paradox
> > 
> > ???
> > 
> > Best, Matthias
> > 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.

2009-01-16 Thread Matthias Bärmann

Of course not, Mike - we simply should be careful with our discretions.

And I can imagine that the experiences one makes between dealers could be 
different from others.


I personally had to do several times with Moroccans what concerns 
meteorites, on different levels - buying, getting information etc. - and all 
my experiences were pretty good.


But I didn't want to - as we use to say in German - open this well known 
barrel again.


A short note only.

Best, Matthias

- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Farmer" 
To: ; "Abdelaziz Alhyane" 
; "Matthias Bärmann" 

Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.


Matthias,
Please don't overgeneralize my statement. There are few if any dealers on 
this list who when talking about METEORITE TRADERS from Morocco, would 
disagree that the untruths that come from there are not almost completely 
widespread. Amazing how one iron turns into 100 in a week, yet all of the 
people trying to sell to you insists that all the others are lying and 
theirs is the only one available.
My statement is just that after all the BS, the truth is very had to figure 
out.

Michael Farmer


--- On Fri, 1/16/09, Matthias Bärmann  wrote:


From: Matthias Bärmann 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
To: meteorite...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, 
"Abdelaziz Alhyane" 

Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 11:52 AM
>>>>>  Michael Famer wrote:

>>>>>  (...) "Moroccans are certainly
prone to making up lies, selling crap to anyone with money,
and scamming everyone". (...)


Hm, Mike, "All Cretans are liars"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epimenides_paradox

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.

2009-01-16 Thread Michael Farmer
Matthias, 
Please don't overgeneralize my statement. There are few if any dealers on this 
list who when talking about METEORITE TRADERS from Morocco, would disagree that 
the untruths that come from there are not almost completely widespread. Amazing 
how one iron turns into 100 in a week, yet all of the people trying to sell to 
you insists that all the others are lying and theirs is the only one available. 
My statement is just that after all the BS, the truth is very had to figure out.
Michael Farmer


--- On Fri, 1/16/09, Matthias Bärmann  wrote:

> From: Matthias Bärmann 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
> To: meteorite...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, "Abdelaziz 
> Alhyane" 
> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 11:52 AM
> >>>>>  Michael Famer wrote:
> 
> >>>>>  (...) "Moroccans are certainly
> prone to making up lies, selling crap to anyone with money,
> and scamming everyone". (...)
> 
> 
> Hm, Mike, "All Cretans are liars"
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epimenides_paradox
> 
> ???
> 
> Best, Matthias
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.

2009-01-16 Thread Matthias Bärmann



 Michael Famer wrote:


 (...) "Moroccans are certainly prone to making up lies, selling crap 
to anyone with money, and scamming everyone". (...)



Hm, Mike, "All Cretans are liars" 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epimenides_paradox


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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.

2009-01-16 Thread Abdelaziz Alhyane
Never a total known weight comes out from NWA, where is bassi that everybody 
said there was a ton or so of it, the same for chergach, only a few grams 
available from Moroccans right now, prices going down reason is moroccans 
themselves, and for your info mike, you said you don't beleive it until you get 
the pics, so why didn't you wait for photos and tell what is true, maybe you 
are telling list members LIES, since you're not sure of what you say.
This fall is limited because it fell in Morocco, not chergach or bassi, where 
you can not get the facts, but since it's here, what's availble of it, is what 
is offering now.
Aziz


--- On Fri, 1/16/09, Michael Farmer  wrote:

> From: Michael Farmer 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, "Abdelaziz Alhyane" 
> 
> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 9:53 AM
> Perhaps it is not true, I don't know, Moroccans are
> certainly prone to making up lies, selling crap to anyone
> with money, and scamming everyone. Hence, my urge of caution
> to anyone wanting to buy. As a person who has spent nearly a
> half million $ in Morocco, I do have my suppliers and people
> I trust, and I trust most of what they say. Now, I am a
> show-me type of person, I do not believe this until I see
> photos or material, I still do not know if a fall occurred,
> I know damn well that many Moroccans do not give a shit
> about the meteorites, the business or the integrety of the
> falls (for example, ensuring that pieces are seperated and
> sold as what they are, not what makes more money). They want
> to milk collectors out of every last Dirham. 
> Is this new fall real, or just the ugly broken pieces of
> Chergach that no one wants to buy (hence the weathering)?
> Moroccan people have done this to themselves, no one trusts
> much of what they say anymore, every fall, Bensour,
> Benguerir, Chergach, Oum Dreyga, Bassikounou, ALL of them
> were "only a few kilos" "this is all, there
> is no more" "You will be the only supplier" 
> "buy it now, or you wont get any" "I paid
> more but will sell to you for $1.00 gram" blah blah
> blah.
> So, I am writing direct information that I am getting from
> a somewhat trustworthy supplier of mine in Morocco. He will
> be in Tucson, so you can ask him if he has some, or is it
> only you Aziz? We have heard this bird chirping a few times
> before. 
> 
> My customers are tired of paying $3 or $5 gram for every
> new fall from NWA area and them watching the price drop to
> $1 gram. Well, this can be solved, don't buy it yet
> until facts and total known weight come out.
> 
> Michael Farmer
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane
>  wrote:
> 
> > From: Abdelaziz Alhyane
> 
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
> > To: meteorite...@yahoo.com,
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 10:43 AM
> > Wow, even Moroccans don't have these infos, seems
> like
> > the person who called you has no gram from this fall
> and try
> > to breake the real dealers whom really have it, and
> not
> > forwarding pics from nomads.
> > Aziz
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Michael Farmer
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Michael Farmer
> 
> > > Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
> > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > > Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 9:36 AM
> > > I just got an interesting phone call from
> Morocco.
> > > It seems that this may be bigger than even the
> > Moroccans
> > > are saying. 
> > > I was told that more than one metric TON of
> meteorite
> > > fragments are recovered, and that apparently a
> massive
> > stone
> > > fell in the Atlas mountains forming a crater, and
> > shattering
> > > the stone into thousands of fragments. Not one
> > complete
> > > stone found, only again MORE THAN ONE TON of
> > fragments. 
> > > I am awaiting photos. This one could be
> interesting!
> > The
> > > area is completely under heavy snow right now
> though.
> > > Michael Farmer
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.

2009-01-16 Thread Michael Farmer
Perhaps it is not true, I don't know, Moroccans are certainly prone to making 
up lies, selling crap to anyone with money, and scamming everyone. Hence, my 
urge of caution to anyone wanting to buy. As a person who has spent nearly a 
half million $ in Morocco, I do have my suppliers and people I trust, and I 
trust most of what they say. Now, I am a show-me type of person, I do not 
believe this until I see photos or material, I still do not know if a fall 
occurred, I know damn well that many Moroccans do not give a shit about the 
meteorites, the business or the integrety of the falls (for example, ensuring 
that pieces are seperated and sold as what they are, not what makes more 
money). They want to milk collectors out of every last Dirham. 
Is this new fall real, or just the ugly broken pieces of Chergach that no one 
wants to buy (hence the weathering)? Moroccan people have done this to 
themselves, no one trusts much of what they say anymore, every fall, Bensour, 
Benguerir, Chergach, Oum Dreyga, Bassikounou, ALL of them were "only a few 
kilos" "this is all, there is no more" "You will be the only supplier"  "buy it 
now, or you wont get any" "I paid more but will sell to you for $1.00 gram" 
blah blah blah.
So, I am writing direct information that I am getting from a somewhat 
trustworthy supplier of mine in Morocco. He will be in Tucson, so you can ask 
him if he has some, or is it only you Aziz? We have heard this bird chirping a 
few times before. 

My customers are tired of paying $3 or $5 gram for every new fall from NWA area 
and them watching the price drop to $1 gram. Well, this can be solved, don't 
buy it yet until facts and total known weight come out.

Michael Farmer


--- On Fri, 1/16/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane  wrote:

> From: Abdelaziz Alhyane 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
> To: meteorite...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 10:43 AM
> Wow, even Moroccans don't have these infos, seems like
> the person who called you has no gram from this fall and try
> to breake the real dealers whom really have it, and not
> forwarding pics from nomads.
> Aziz
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Michael Farmer
>  wrote:
> 
> > From: Michael Farmer 
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
> > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 9:36 AM
> > I just got an interesting phone call from Morocco.
> > It seems that this may be bigger than even the
> Moroccans
> > are saying. 
> > I was told that more than one metric TON of meteorite
> > fragments are recovered, and that apparently a massive
> stone
> > fell in the Atlas mountains forming a crater, and
> shattering
> > the stone into thousands of fragments. Not one
> complete
> > stone found, only again MORE THAN ONE TON of
> fragments. 
> > I am awaiting photos. This one could be interesting!
> The
> > area is completely under heavy snow right now though.
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.

2009-01-16 Thread Abdelaziz Alhyane
Wow, even Moroccans don't have these infos, seems like the person who called 
you has no gram from this fall and try to breake the real dealers whom really 
have it, and not forwarding pics from nomads.
Aziz


--- On Fri, 1/16/09, Michael Farmer  wrote:

> From: Michael Farmer 
> Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 9:36 AM
> I just got an interesting phone call from Morocco.
> It seems that this may be bigger than even the Moroccans
> are saying. 
> I was told that more than one metric TON of meteorite
> fragments are recovered, and that apparently a massive stone
> fell in the Atlas mountains forming a crater, and shattering
> the stone into thousands of fragments. Not one complete
> stone found, only again MORE THAN ONE TON of fragments. 
> I am awaiting photos. This one could be interesting! The
> area is completely under heavy snow right now though.
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[meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall news.

2009-01-16 Thread Michael Farmer
I just got an interesting phone call from Morocco.
It seems that this may be bigger than even the Moroccans are saying. 
I was told that more than one metric TON of meteorite fragments are recovered, 
and that apparently a massive stone fell in the Atlas mountains forming a 
crater, and shattering the stone into thousands of fragments. Not one complete 
stone found, only again MORE THAN ONE TON of fragments. 
I am awaiting photos. This one could be interesting! The area is completely 
under heavy snow right now though.
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Re: [meteorite-list] NEW Moroccan fall

2009-01-16 Thread Abdelaziz Alhyane
Hi Again,
Sorry, I have names mixed up, I meant "Amerzgane" not Boumgzare.
My best
Aziz


--- On Fri, 1/16/09, Pelé Pierre-Marie  wrote:

> From: Pelé Pierre-Marie 
> Subject: [meteorite-list]  NEW Moroccan fall
> To: "MeteoriteList" 
> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 5:48 AM
> Hello,
> 
> that looks like a great new fall.  But I found a stone
> was found at Tamdaght SE of Telouet, on the road to
> Ouarzazate.  Does it confirm a trajectory from SW to
> NE (Igherm -> Telouet) ?  Were the hundreds of
> kilograms found near Telouet also ?
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] NEW Moroccan fall

2009-01-16 Thread Abdelaziz Alhyane
Hi Pierre and list,

The trajectory is from Southwest to northeast Igherm => Telouet passed over " 
Igherm, Taliouine, Askaoune, Boumgzare" we thought first it fell at Boumgzar. 
those who beleive on handereds of kgs, I'm sure they missed it and will missed 
it as there's no hundereds.

Ma best
Aziz


--- On Fri, 1/16/09, Pelé Pierre-Marie  wrote:

> From: Pelé Pierre-Marie 
> Subject: [meteorite-list]  NEW Moroccan fall
> To: "MeteoriteList" 
> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 5:48 AM
> Hello,
> 
> that looks like a great new fall.  But I found a stone
> was found at Tamdaght SE of Telouet, on the road to
> Ouarzazate.  Does it confirm a trajectory from SW to
> NE (Igherm -> Telouet) ?  Were the hundreds of
> kilograms found near Telouet also ?
> 
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[meteorite-list] NEW Moroccan fall

2009-01-16 Thread Pelé Pierre-Marie
Hello,

that looks like a great new fall.  But I found a stone
was found at Tamdaght SE of Telouet, on the road to
Ouarzazate.  Does it confirm a trajectory from SW to
NE (Igherm -> Telouet) ?  Were the hundreds of
kilograms found near Telouet also ?

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[meteorite-list] NEW Moroccan fall

2009-01-16 Thread Abdelaziz Alhyane
Hello List Members,

The bright fireball seen over Taliouine travelleing from southwest to the 
northeast, It has been seen over Igherm, Taliouine, Askaoune, so the right 
direction of the meteoritic fireball, is Igherm- tichka( Telouat where it fell).
http://nwameteoritesss.skyrock.com/profil/photos/78989604

I wonder if a fireball can turn left or right and take the road to pass over 
Marrakech to Eljadida, maybe it just come for a tourism trip and have some swim 
at eljadida beach then get back to the space.

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall

2008-12-27 Thread Chris Peterson
Impacts that are audible are exceedingly rare events. Except for the utterly 
bizarre, and possibly singular example of Carancas, I don't know of any 
meteorite fall that was audible to anybody more than a few meters from the 
impact (I would guess a few Sikhote-Alin craters produced a fair bit of 
noise).


If people actually heard the impact when they were too far away to 
immediately identify the site, this was a crater forming event- possible, 
but not very likely. Far more likely is that people heard sonic booms 
echoing around hills and valleys- sounds that would be far more impressive 
(and "scarier") than any impact sound.


Of course, if there was a hypervelocity impact, people will be coming from 
all over the world to study it- and there may well be no meteorites at all.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Abdelaziz Alhyane" 
To: ; "Chris Peterson" 


Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall



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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall

2008-12-27 Thread Michael Farmer
If they heard the impact, then Morocco would be in trouble.
Michael Farmer


--- On Sat, 12/27/08, Abdelaziz Alhyane  wrote:

> From: Abdelaziz Alhyane 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, "Chris Peterson" 
> 
> Date: Saturday, December 27, 2008, 11:50 AM
> Yes, poeple heard the impact and this is why they are
> scared, Aziz
> 
> 
> --- On Sat, 12/27/08, Chris Peterson
>  wrote:
> 
> > From: Chris Peterson 
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall
> > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > Date: Saturday, December 27, 2008, 10:44 AM
> > I'll take that as a fireball that produced sounds.
> I
> > very much doubt anybody heard an impact. Still, sonic
> booms
> > are a strong indicator of meteorite production.
> > 
> > Chris
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> > 
> > - Original Message - From: "Abdelaziz
> > Alhyane" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 11:38 AM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall
> > 
> > 
> > > Hello List Members,
> > > 
> > > Last Saturday, about 10:30 pm, a huge and bright
> > fireball seen over Taliouine travelleing from
> southwest to
> > the northeast, poeple in high atlas mountains
> confirmed that
> > they have heard the firball hit a mountain in between
> > Tahnaout and Ait ourir, Marrakech region. inhabitants
> was so
> > scared since they have never seen a thing like that,
> it is
> > so very hard to find the meteorites because of the
> snow,
> > much trees, and unfortunately much stories, most are
> blabla.
> > but we are always optimistic and trying to get more
> correct
> > infos and why not to find this meteorite, It would be
> a
> > happy ending of the 2008.
> > > 
> > > My best
> > > Aziz
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall

2008-12-27 Thread Abdelaziz Alhyane
Yes, poeple heard the impact and this is why they are scared, Aziz


--- On Sat, 12/27/08, Chris Peterson  wrote:

> From: Chris Peterson 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Saturday, December 27, 2008, 10:44 AM
> I'll take that as a fireball that produced sounds. I
> very much doubt anybody heard an impact. Still, sonic booms
> are a strong indicator of meteorite production.
> 
> Chris
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> 
> - Original Message - From: "Abdelaziz
> Alhyane" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 11:38 AM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall
> 
> 
> > Hello List Members,
> > 
> > Last Saturday, about 10:30 pm, a huge and bright
> fireball seen over Taliouine travelleing from southwest to
> the northeast, poeple in high atlas mountains confirmed that
> they have heard the firball hit a mountain in between
> Tahnaout and Ait ourir, Marrakech region. inhabitants was so
> scared since they have never seen a thing like that, it is
> so very hard to find the meteorites because of the snow,
> much trees, and unfortunately much stories, most are blabla.
> but we are always optimistic and trying to get more correct
> infos and why not to find this meteorite, It would be a
> happy ending of the 2008.
> > 
> > My best
> > Aziz
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall

2008-12-27 Thread Chris Peterson
I'll take that as a fireball that produced sounds. I very much doubt anybody 
heard an impact. Still, sonic booms are a strong indicator of meteorite 
production.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Abdelaziz Alhyane" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 11:38 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall



Hello List Members,

Last Saturday, about 10:30 pm, a huge and bright fireball seen over 
Taliouine travelleing from southwest to the northeast, poeple in high 
atlas mountains confirmed that they have heard the firball hit a mountain 
in between Tahnaout and Ait ourir, Marrakech region. inhabitants was so 
scared since they have never seen a thing like that, it is so very hard to 
find the meteorites because of the snow, much trees, and unfortunately 
much stories, most are blabla. but we are always optimistic and trying to 
get more correct infos and why not to find this meteorite, It would be a 
happy ending of the 2008.


My best
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[meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall

2008-12-27 Thread Abdelaziz Alhyane
Hello List Members,

 Last Saturday, about 10:30 pm, a huge and bright fireball seen over Taliouine 
travelleing from southwest to the northeast, poeple in high atlas mountains 
confirmed that they have heard the firball hit a mountain in between Tahnaout 
and Ait ourir, Marrakech region. inhabitants was so scared since they have 
never seen a thing like that, it is so very hard to find the meteorites because 
of the snow, much trees, and unfortunately much stories, most are blabla. but 
we are always optimistic and trying to get more correct infos and why not to 
find this meteorite, It would be a happy ending of the 2008.

My best 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall

2004-12-09 Thread McomeMeteorite Meteorite
mah...its many strange this fallall have say the police have take all 
pieces of this fall, and now I seen many moroccan person give kilos of this 
meteoritemany strange

MC
From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 06:03:51 -0700

Gibe me a break Matteo, this is not a fake fall.
Mike Farmer
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I have received a offer for 2.2 kg. of the new fall for 3 Euro/gr. its a 
good price? Strangly now the moroccan people paired this new fall many 
similar to Bensour, i hope only this is not a fake fall where the moroccan 
people have put some pieces of Bensour in a crater and pass this for a new 
fall.

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall

2004-12-09 Thread Michael Farmer
Gibe me a break Matteo, this is not a fake fall.
Mike Farmer
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I have received a offer for 2.2 kg. of the new fall for 3 Euro/gr. its a 
good price? Strangly now the moroccan people paired this new fall many 
similar to Bensour, i hope only this is not a fake fall where the moroccan 
people have put some pieces of Bensour in a crater and pass this for a new 
fall.

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall

2004-12-09 Thread Bernhard Rems
That's about  $4, the same as they offered to Mike and Greg.

I would be cautious and wait.
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>
> I have received a offer for 2.2 kg. of the new fall for 3 Euro/gr.
> its a good price? Strangly now the moroccan people paired this new
> fall many similar to Bensour, i hope only this is not a fake fall
> where the moroccan people have put some pieces of Bensour in a
> crater and pass this for a new fall.
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2004-12-09 Thread McomeMeteorite Meteorite
I have received a offer for 2.2 kg. of the new fall for 3 Euro/gr. its a 
good price? Strangly now the moroccan people paired this new fall many 
similar to Bensour, i hope only this is not a fake fall where the moroccan 
people have put some pieces of Bensour in a crater and pass this for a new 
fall.

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall

2004-12-02 Thread harlan trammell
there not as rare as those saturm meteorites, that gently float down out of the sky like leaf.
i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: David Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Walter Branch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall >Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 13:28:18 -0700 > >Dear List; >I propose the name of this new Maris or Jupiter meteorite to be >"turnip-truck" after association with the finder. >DF > >Walter Branch wrote: > >>Hello Everyone, >> >>Here is an email I received recently (I receive this type every >>week). If >>anyone is interested in persuing this, let me know. You don't even >>have to >>travel to Morocco! >> >>-Walter >> 
>>Good day >>I have a meteorite wight about 5.4Kg. I have done >>initial test by Atlanta Laboratory, which confirm that >>it is come from Maris or Jupiter. It may need to be >>tested more for it chemical propriety. It is founded >>in Sahara desert. >>I would like to put in the market. >>Can you help me. >>I would be glad to send you a pic or meet with you. >> >>I live in Destin, FL >> >>--------- >>- Original Message - From: "Jeff Grossman" >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:43 PM >>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall >> >> >>>This meteorite will be well documented. In fact, Dr Hasnaa >>>Chennaoui, who 
>>>was mentioned by Philippe Thomas earlier today and is describing >>>it, will >>>be one of two new members of the Nomenclature Committee beginning >>>next >>> >>month. >> >>>Jeff >>> >>>At 01:31 PM 12/1/2004, David Freeman wrote: >>> >>>>I have an idea, lets not start a new round of feeding the ducks >>>> >>match >> >>>>Patience is a virtue! >>>>DF >>>> >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>> >>>>>Adam, >>>>> >>>>>Why hasn't the Morrocan half of team Lunar rock documented this >>>>>new >>>>> >>fall? >> >>>>>I thought we would have had all the information, by way of your >>>>> 
>>proteges, >> >>>>>immediately. >>>>> >>>>>Regards, >>>>> >>>>>Bill >>>>> >>>>>__ >>>>>Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>>> >>>> >>>>__ >>>>Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>> >>>Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman >>>Chair, Meteorite Nomenclature Committee (Meteoritical Society) >>>US Geological Survey >>>954 National Center 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall

2004-12-01 Thread David Freeman
Dear List;
I propose the name of this new Maris or Jupiter meteorite to be 
"turnip-truck" after association with the finder.
DF

Walter Branch wrote:
Hello Everyone,
Here is an email I received recently (I receive this type every week).  If
anyone is interested in persuing this, let me know.  You don't even have to
travel to Morocco!
-Walter
Good day
I have a meteorite wight about 5.4Kg. I have done
initial test by Atlanta Laboratory, which confirm that
it is come from Maris or Jupiter. It may need to be
tested more for it chemical propriety. It is founded
in Sahara desert.
I would like to put in the market.
Can you help me.
I would be glad to send you a pic or meet with you.
I live in Destin, FL
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This meteorite will be well documented.  In fact, Dr Hasnaa Chennaoui, who
was mentioned by Philippe Thomas earlier today and is describing it, will
be one of two new members of the Nomenclature Committee beginning next
month.
Jeff
At 01:31 PM 12/1/2004, David Freeman wrote:
I have an idea, lets not start a new round of feeding the ducks
match
Patience is a virtue!
DF
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Adam,
Why hasn't the Morrocan half of team Lunar rock documented this new
fall?
I thought we would have had all the information, by way of your
proteges,
immediately.
Regards,
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall

2004-12-01 Thread Peanut ..
Those Jupiter meteorites are kinda rare, did they find it in a bog?

Cj


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Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:53 AM
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> Hello Everyone,
>
> Here is an email I received recently (I receive this type every week).  If
> anyone is interested in persuing this, let me know.  You don't even have 
> to
> travel to Morocco!
>
> -Walter
>
> Good day
> I have a meteorite wight about 5.4Kg. I have done
> initial test by Atlanta Laboratory, which confirm that
> it is come from Maris or Jupiter. It may need to be
> tested more for it chemical propriety. It is founded
> in Sahara desert.
> I would like to put in the market.
> Can you help me.
> I would be glad to send you a pic or meet with you.
>
> I live in Destin, FL
>
> -
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jeff Grossman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall
>
>
> > This meteorite will be well documented.  In fact, Dr Hasnaa Chennaoui, 
> > who
> > was mentioned by Philippe Thomas earlier today and is describing it, 
> > will
> > be one of two new members of the Nomenclature Committee beginning next
> month.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > At 01:31 PM 12/1/2004, David Freeman wrote:
> > >I have an idea, lets not start a new round of feeding the ducks
> match
> > >Patience is a virtue!
> > >DF
> > >
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > >>Adam,
> > >>
> > >>Why hasn't the Morrocan half of team Lunar rock documented this new
> fall?
> > >>I thought we would have had all the information, by way of your
> proteges,
> > >>immediately.
> > >>
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> > >>
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall

2004-12-01 Thread Walter Branch
Hello Everyone,

Here is an email I received recently (I receive this type every week).  If
anyone is interested in persuing this, let me know.  You don't even have to
travel to Morocco!

-Walter

Good day
I have a meteorite wight about 5.4Kg. I have done
initial test by Atlanta Laboratory, which confirm that
it is come from Maris or Jupiter. It may need to be
tested more for it chemical propriety. It is founded
in Sahara desert.
I would like to put in the market.
Can you help me.
I would be glad to send you a pic or meet with you.

I live in Destin, FL

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall


> This meteorite will be well documented.  In fact, Dr Hasnaa Chennaoui, who
> was mentioned by Philippe Thomas earlier today and is describing it, will
> be one of two new members of the Nomenclature Committee beginning next
month.
>
> Jeff
>
> At 01:31 PM 12/1/2004, David Freeman wrote:
> >I have an idea, lets not start a new round of feeding the ducks
match
> >Patience is a virtue!
> >DF
> >
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >>Adam,
> >>
> >>Why hasn't the Morrocan half of team Lunar rock documented this new
fall?
> >>I thought we would have had all the information, by way of your
proteges,
> >>immediately.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Bill
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall

2004-12-01 Thread Jeff Grossman
This meteorite will be well documented.  In fact, Dr Hasnaa Chennaoui, who 
was mentioned by Philippe Thomas earlier today and is describing it, will 
be one of two new members of the Nomenclature Committee beginning next month.

Jeff
At 01:31 PM 12/1/2004, David Freeman wrote:
I have an idea, lets not start a new round of feeding the ducks  match
Patience is a virtue!
DF
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Adam,
Why hasn't the Morrocan half of team Lunar rock documented this new fall? 
I thought we would have had all the information, by way of your proteges, 
immediately.

Regards,
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RE: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall

2004-11-29 Thread aziz habibi
hello sir gregory and list
i m sorry now i can't move to go and take photo , first i have some 
explosifs news from a lab and i can't move untill i buy the meteorite 
concerned , anf fixed some deals.

i will ask my friend to do photo of this cater if there is one.
because i do not beleive this news paper that sad this , its a little 
exagerated , but i called yahya
and he told me that the people of this region say there is a acrater  and 
our guys morrocan or europeen or usa guys  can't aproch this place. and take 
photo.

well this is the news.
thanks
aziz
From: "Greg Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 16:27:12 -0600
Hello Habibi and list,
I would think that it would be an easy task to get a picture of the 
"crater" or impact hole, whichever you prefer. I suppose it depends on how 
loose or damp the soil is where it fell. In either case, the 10 kilo mass 
will have obvious soil embedded on it. If they know it weighs 10 kilos and 
it was 2 meters deep, than they had to dig it out and destroy the "crater". 
Still worth a picture for us to see, suppose?

If Mike is unable to get a picture of this, can you share one with us, 
Habibi?

Thanks again,
Greg
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[meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall

2004-11-28 Thread Greg Hupe
Hello Habibi and list,
I would think that it would be an easy task to get a picture of the "crater" 
or impact hole, whichever you prefer. I suppose it depends on how loose or 
damp the soil is where it fell. In either case, the 10 kilo mass will have 
obvious soil embedded on it. If they know it weighs 10 kilos and it was 2 
meters deep, than they had to dig it out and destroy the "crater". Still 
worth a picture for us to see, suppose?

If Mike is unable to get a picture of this, can you share one with us, 
Habibi?

Thanks again,
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan Fall

2002-03-17 Thread KHe1144783
In a message dated 3/17/2002 12:56:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I have heard that the new fall is going for .40 per gram. Several Moroccan dealers are retailing it for that.
 
  MC


Mike: I'll take 500 grams of the new Moroccan at .40 per gram and throw in $ 20.00 shipping. Your a great man for offering us this rate !! So glad you called.Kris, E me !! 


[meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall

2002-03-17 Thread Jim Strope



Really no problem. Pal.  It is kind of like 
when Circuit City had a sale last week on television sets.  If you did not 
buy during the sale then it is too late.  Not a complicated concept to 
understand, really.
 
Jim Strope
http://www.catchafallingstar.com
 
 

ho ho guys, now we must hire verry good 
lawyer and read all emailagain.If he sell this for 2$ to Mr 
X and Y, then why he cant sell this to all inthe same price ?This is not 
god. However I dont want buy this nice material from Mike orDean.I don't 
envy Mr. X that he buy this for 2$ :))I don't now what to 
thinkMike blame Dean that he buy this for 1$? and sell for 15 :) and 
what Mike donow  (will be sell this for .50 or 50$ ?)?Mike do 
not say "that he would be selling it next week for 2 or 3 dollarsper 
gram",  but he don't say also that he will be selling this for 2$ 
onlyfor XX hours :)))100 different peoples = 100 different 
opinionsThis is firstfor NO


Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan Fall

2002-03-17 Thread PolandMET.com

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From: "Jim Strope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Meteorite Central" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 9:49 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan Fall

Mike did not say that he would be selling it next week for 2 or 3 dollars
per gram.  He said that he would be getting it next week for those who
requested it.  Go back and re-read the emails.  For those who requested it
when the offer was made they will be very happy.

==
ho ho guys, now we must hire verry good lawyer and read all email
again.

If he sell this for 2$ to Mr X and Y, then why he cant sell this to all in
the same price ?
This is not god. However I dont want buy this nice material from Mike or
Dean.
I don't envy Mr. X that he buy this for 2$ :))
I don't now what to think
Mike blame Dean that he buy this for 1$? and sell for 15 :) and what Mike do
now  (will be sell this for .50 or 50$ ?)?

Mike do not say "that he would be selling it next week for 2 or 3 dollars
per gram",  but he don't say also that he will be selling this for 2$ only
for XX hours :)))

100 different peoples = 100 different opinions
This is firstfor NO

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan Fall

2002-03-17 Thread PolandMET.com

> >The previously offered price is NO LONGER VALID for those who did >not
make
> >initial requests.
> >
> Hmmm. Farmer said that he would be selling it next week for $2. What about
> the people who never emailed him but just decided to wait for him to put
it
> on sale next week for $2 expecting him to follow through on his word like
> his reputation for keeping his word would normally indicate?

hmmm. This is really problem now.
Maybe he want start selling this for 1$/gram ? :))) Who give less ?
Maybe Mike make small Easter surprise for as ?

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan Fall

2002-03-17 Thread PolandMET.com

Hi Jim!
I have heard that the new fall is going for .40 per gram. Several Moroccan
dealers are retailing it for that.
MC

Then send some maroccan dealers emails and all will be clear
MrX will pay $2/g and MrY $.40/g. :-)))

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan Fall

2002-03-17 Thread Jim Strope



As usual you are wrong again.  Go back to playing with coins
 
Jim Strope421 Fourth StreetGlen Dale, WV  26038
 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Michael 
  Casper 
  To: Jim Strope ; Meteorite Central 
  Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 3:55 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New 
  Moroccan Fall
  
  Hi Jim!
   
    I have heard that the new fall is going 
  for .40 per gram. Several Moroccan dealers are retailing it for 
  that.
   
    MC
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Jim Strope 
To: Meteorite Central 

Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 3:49 
PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan 
Fall

When Mike asked the eye witness to the fall about the Dean's claim of 
rain he laughed and said "I can't remember the last time it rained".  
So much for being "plugged in" to what is actually going on in 
Morocco.
 
Mike did not say that he would be selling it next week for 2 or 3 
dollars per gram.  He said that he would be getting it next week for 
those who requested it.  Go back and re-read the emails.  For 
those who requested it when the offer was made they will be very 
happy.
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan Fall

2002-03-17 Thread Sharkkb8

 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< I have heard that the new fall is going for .40 per gram. >>


Grab a tub of popcorn, everybody.;-)

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan Fall

2002-03-17 Thread Michael Casper



Hi Jim!
 
  I have heard that the new fall is going for 
.40 per gram. Several Moroccan dealers are retailing it for that.
 
  MC

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jim 
  Strope 
  To: Meteorite Central 
  Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 3:49 
PM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan 
  Fall
  
  When Mike asked the eye witness to the fall about the Dean's claim of 
  rain he laughed and said "I can't remember the last time it rained".  So 
  much for being "plugged in" to what is actually going on in Morocco.
   
  Mike did not say that he would be selling it next week for 2 or 3 dollars 
  per gram.  He said that he would be getting it next week for those who 
  requested it.  Go back and re-read the emails.  For those who 
  requested it when the offer was made they will be very happy.
   
  Jim Strope421 Fourth StreetGlen Dale, WV  26038
   
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[meteorite-list] New Moroccan Fall

2002-03-17 Thread Jim Strope



When Mike asked the eye witness to the fall about the Dean's claim of rain 
he laughed and said "I can't remember the last time it rained".  So much 
for being "plugged in" to what is actually going on in Morocco.
 
Mike did not say that he would be selling it next week for 2 or 3 dollars 
per gram.  He said that he would be getting it next week for those who 
requested it.  Go back and re-read the emails.  For those who 
requested it when the offer was made they will be very happy.
 
Jim Strope421 Fourth StreetGlen Dale, WV  26038
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan Fall

2002-03-17 Thread dean bessey

>The previously offered price is NO LONGER VALID for those who did >not make 
>initial requests.
>
Hmmm. Farmer said that he would be selling it next week for $2. What about 
the people who never emailed him but just decided to wait for him to put it 
on sale next week for $2 expecting him to follow through on his word like 
his reputation for keeping his word would normally indicate?
Oh, well. I wrote this email because still have it for $15 a gram like I 
alwys had. Nice individuals with lots of crust. And mine was picked up the 
day of the fall. The material that me, meteorlab, bruno, gregory and Rob has 
was all picked up within a day or two after the fall. It fell in a military 
area and was witnessed by many people who quickly picked up the stones. 
Between us we cleaned Morocco dry and tried to get more but there was no 
more of this meteorite left. Farmer got lucky and showed up just as the new 
stuff from Algeria showed up in Erfoud which apparantly included the biggest 
pieces so it appears that my hopes of owning the main mass wont be 
materialized. However, the material from algeria was only picked up more 
recently and not within days of the fall. The meteorites from algeria was 
still on the ground when it rained and so has been exposed to rain. This 
meteorite is very porous and much more suseptable to water damage than most 
LL meteorites are. You will likely find that you will have more problems 
with material that came from algeria over the moroccan material that was 
picked up right after the fall and before it rained - even if it looks nice 
in the beginning - which I am sure that it well because the crust is just 
stunning.
I would also like to point out to everybody that I have a 1.1 kilo one on 
ebay for around $9 a gram. I also have the largest one that fell in morocco 
at 1472 grams (It is killer with about 98% crust)  but it appears that the 
main mass will have fallen in algeria. But if you want some for $15 let me 
know what size you want. Farmer says that he has a "BIG ANNOUNCEMENT" as per 
Jims Stropes email so you never know what the future price will be once he 
makes his anouncement. And remember that my stuff was picked up before the 
rain so should likely command a premium.
Cheers
DEAN
PS:
My apologies for my email to John. That was a bit to much.



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[meteorite-list] New Moroccan Fall

2002-03-17 Thread Jim Strope



I just got off the phone with Mike Farmer and he will be home on 
Tuesday to make an important announcement concerning the new 
Algerian/Moroccan fall.
 
He wanted me to say that he has a file of all emails that registered 
requests for this meteorite while the battle was going on.  These people 
who jumped to his defense will be rewarded with their requests filled to the 
best of his ability.  The previously offered price is NO LONGER VALID for 
those who did not make initial requests.  The price and availability of 
future sales is yet to be determined.  He is NOT taking any more requests 
at this present time until everything gets sorted out.
 
Best Wishes...
 
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[meteorite-list] New Moroccan Fall

2002-03-12 Thread Michael Farmer



Well, I is time for me to jump in here and rain on 
Dean Bessy's parade. I also have a substantial amount of this fall on the way 
via DHL as I type here! DEan DOES NOT have it all, or even close to HALF as he 
so states and is so full of bullshit, that I cant keep quiet here any longer. I 
will have the materail for sale next week, and I plan to offer it around $2 
gram! Now Dean, how in the hell do you justify selling material that you paid 
less than $1 gram for for $15 to $20 gram, it is a chondrite anc a nice one, but 
nevertheless, you DUMP (using your own words) rare material like it was a happy 
meal. Then for this fall you try to manipulate the market with more 
lies and self-reithous statements of self grandure. You are not crap when 
it comes to North Africa. Your one seller has you by the balls and feeds you 
what you want to hear, You my friend are the laughing stalk of Morocco. It is 
about time you learned it. 
 
Anyway, the point is folks, that you can pay Dean 
his "Good Deal" price of $15 gram, or wait one week and pay me $2 gram, your 
choice. 
 
Thanks Dean, Payback is a sunofabitch isnt it? By 
the way, you need to stop talking about me, it gets back to me, every word you 
say, and right now I am more than a little pissed you 
asshole!!!#@#@#
 
Mike Farmer


Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan Fall

2002-03-12 Thread Matteo Chinellato

Hello all

Look the ebay auctions of Mr.Hupe meteoritelab and
look the Bensour meteorite...is many similar.
Regards

Matteo

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> I received several individuals and fragments of the
> new Moroccan fall this 
> afternoon, and couldn't resist quickly grinding a
> face onto one of the pieces 
> and having a peek inside.
> This one fell at 16:17 GMT on 11th February.just
> about the same time that 
> many of us were gathering for the start of Daryll
> Pitt's meteorite auction in 
> Tucson. Kinda weird timing, don't you think??
> It's a very fragile, almost crumbly meteorite that
> doesn't take a polish at 
> all, so you might have to concentrate hard when
> looking at the picture I've 
> posted here http://fernlea.tripod.com/newfall.html
> My largest individual is just over 200g and there
> are many dinky little, 
> perfectly fusion crusted individuals that resememble
> the Holbrook & Pultusk 
> "peas".
> The matrix had a much higher contrast when it was
> still wet with alcohol 
> coolant, but it looks very much blander when dry and
> it can be difficult to 
> see the small brecciation. I think LL6 is a pretty
> safe bet on this one, but 
> we'll see.
> 
> Cheers,
> Rob.
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> The Wynd,
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[meteorite-list] New Moroccan Fall

2002-03-12 Thread FERNLEA4

Hi folks,

I received several individuals and fragments of the new Moroccan fall this 
afternoon, and couldn't resist quickly grinding a face onto one of the pieces 
and having a peek inside.
This one fell at 16:17 GMT on 11th February.just about the same time that 
many of us were gathering for the start of Daryll Pitt's meteorite auction in 
Tucson. Kinda weird timing, don't you think??
It's a very fragile, almost crumbly meteorite that doesn't take a polish at 
all, so you might have to concentrate hard when looking at the picture I've 
posted here http://fernlea.tripod.com/newfall.html
My largest individual is just over 200g and there are many dinky little, 
perfectly fusion crusted individuals that resememble the Holbrook & Pultusk 
"peas".
The matrix had a much higher contrast when it was still wet with alcohol 
coolant, but it looks very much blander when dry and it can be difficult to 
see the small brecciation. I think LL6 is a pretty safe bet on this one, but 
we'll see.

Cheers,
Rob.
http://fernlea.tripod.com/forsale.html
Fernlea Meteorites,
The Wynd,
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