[meteorite-list] Peruvian nutjob
What a frigging idiot this jerk is. WOW, thieves stole lots of $. It tends to happen, and outside the meteorite world I might ad. This guy is truly a nutcase. I have seen the photos of his crater. It is not a crater, there are no meteorites, it is all a scam. So don't worry Randall, your crater will remain unplundered by those of us who actually hunt meteorites, and you won't have to send anyone to jail and deprive them of the assistance of their embassy, like criminal or dictator. Michael Farmer --- Charles Viau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a paranoid person... As if on Expedia.com one finds... Real Affordable Peru (2007) Meteorite Hunt Special - 11 days from only $1795 (plus taxes and fees) ... Free weapons and ammunition. Tanks extra. Llamas available for any activity. Free photo of you with arms around el Presi dente! ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary K. Foote Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 12:23 AM To: Randall Gregory; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Peruvian meteorite crater - friendly warningto hunters that may be considering... Randall, I would invite people to help out - not turn them away with threats of being arrested. Heck, I'll do that now. If anyone wants to come along on the New Hampshire meteorite hunt please do. We'll post dates and times of when we'll be there so everyone can come along! Come one - come all! Gary On 22 Feb 2007 at 20:56, Randall Gregory wrote: Gary, I was told that hunters would turn the place up-side down. You know some people would, without respect for anything. Do I have to remind you? http://www.azstarnet.com/gemshow01/0202.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1324361.stm http://www.rockhounds.com/tucsonshow/reports/tucson96/snapsh12.shtm http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb3418/is_199708/ai_n8179903 http://www.sciencemag.org/content/vol277/issue5328/r-samples.dtl http://www.sciencemag.org/content/vol277/issue5328/r-samples.dtl http://www.umich.edu/~urecord/9899/Oct21_98/16.htm http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=48724 http://www.meteorite.com/missing_stolen.html Gem show briefs Dealer robbed 2nd year in row Five gemstones worth as much as $130,000 were reported stolen from a dealer at a gem show at the Best Western Executive Inn, 333 W. Drachman St. Owner Alijohn Nourestani was having breakfast on Sunday within view of his display of tourmaline gemstones when five pieces were stolen, he said yesterday The showcase for his business, Nourestan Gems Minerals - The Miners of Fine Tourmaline, was draped with a sheet when the theft took place, police were told. Nourestani, who has homes in Afghanistan and New Mexico, said yesterday that at the same show last year, he had several tourmaline gemstones stolen that were valued at between $8,000 and $10,000. He also had friends who had goods that were stolen, he said. I've been coming to the gem show in Tucson for 17 years, he said. I love Tucson. But we'd like the city to know we have problems. There are gangsters in Tucson. Police described the suspect as a 5-foot-7-inch man, about 165 pounds and wearing a flannel shirt and black pants. Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think so too. A warning like this is sure to gain friends and influence people. lol Gary On 22 Feb 2007 at 18:14, Dave Freeman mjwy wrote: Dear Gary; I kind of thought that maybe he should live a lonely life as his scare tactic would warrent that all meteorite persons would stay away from such a crabby appleton! His crater and the Peruvian government may be his ONLY FRIENDS! df Gary K. Foote wrote: A rather dark post Randall. Gary On 21 Feb 2007 at 18:44, Randall Gregory wrote: Information is expected to be released in April on the Earth Impact Databasethat will give the exact coordinates to the Peruvian meteorite crater. I have been warned that meteorite hunters will want to turn this site upside down. If anyone wishes to hunt at this site please contact me and we can discuss. Should anyone think about hunting without contacting me. I want you to understand that I have paperwork filing with the Peruvian government giving me mining concession rights to the crater and 100 sq. hectares surrounding the crater. It is a routine matter and approval is expected soon. Even with paperwork pending I still have legal rights here in Peru. I am serious about wanting to keep this crater in pristine condition until scientists have had the opportunity to study it in detail. Peruvian law
Re: [meteorite-list] Peruvian nutjob
It looks more like a volcanic cone instead of a crater to me. Gary On 24 Feb 2007 at 8:52, Michael Farmer wrote: What a frigging idiot this jerk is. WOW, thieves stole lots of $. It tends to happen, and outside the meteorite world I might ad. This guy is truly a nutcase. I have seen the photos of his crater. It is not a crater, there are no meteorites, it is all a scam. So don't worry Randall, your crater will remain unplundered by those of us who actually hunt meteorites, and you won't have to send anyone to jail and deprive them of the assistance of their embassy, like criminal or dictator. Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Peruvian nutjob
I think it looks more like a erosion form, but then maybe we got different pictures. I got 09180026.jpg and 09180031.jpg. The first looks like a collapsed wall of a canyon complete with traces where water has drained off in a small ditch. The second shows a canyon in a mountainous area with only natural erosion and no crater as I could see. /Göran Gary K. Foote wrote: It looks more like a volcanic cone instead of a crater to me. Gary On 24 Feb 2007 at 8:52, Michael Farmer wrote: What a frigging idiot this jerk is. WOW, thieves stole lots of $. It tends to happen, and outside the meteorite world I might ad. This guy is truly a nutcase. I have seen the photos of his crater. It is not a crater, there are no meteorites, it is all a scam. So don't worry Randall, your crater will remain unplundered by those of us who actually hunt meteorites, and you won't have to send anyone to jail and deprive them of the assistance of their embassy, like criminal or dictator. Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Peruvian nutjob
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Good One. This is the best one that I have herd since the pellisons reported that they see terrorists behind every rock and on the other side of their shot glasses. I was going to respond to this a couple days ago but well, its hard to type when you cant stop laughing at the stupidy and nievity of the posting. Do you ever try and study up on something and think a little before putting mouth in gear? This is all to funny. Trying to make people believe that american legal standards work in Peru. You have a piece of paper with something written on it. Do you know what a contract is worth in peru? I can assure you its worth less than in morocco where people dont bother getting contracts for deals worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. The value of your contract is certainly worth less than the 100 sole banknote that you hand the cop in charge of enforcing (Or turning a blind eye) the protection of your bomb crater. Do you know that in peru the police (excluding the tourist police), immigration and customs officials make mexicos traffic police seem like honest respectable law enforcement people (And theres an oxymoron for you - mexican traffic police and honest in the same sentence)? In Peru if you want to buy looted artifacts you go to the police, government and immigration officials (Better have some good connections first before you try that though). Let me ask yo this? Did you pay the police before you got your document? Police in peru wont take a statement from you without payment first. In Egypt they call it Backish. In Peru they dont try and sugar coat the fact. You should know before you search your crater that this is not kansas anymore. And here is something even funnier than thinking peru is an american state with enforcable american laws. I have already beaten you to the crater. About two or three years ago when the meteorites were being paraded through Peru's media (And obviously not meteorites even from th epictures) a couple of my friends went there looking anyway even though I told them it was a waste of time (Its easy to get to). But peruvian scientists declared the basalt to be meteorites. But you have to remember peru is a place where scientists and the government are all for the destruction of cultural artifacts in the name of keeping them out of collectors hands and this wholesale destruction has the full support of UNESCO. For example all around lima the shantytowns are built over old graveyards and sewage is totally destroying the items buried underneath. However, Peruvian law is such that if you dig a hole in your own backyard and salvage the artifacts that will be destroyed completely with sewagage in 10 years time you will get arrested and put in jail. Pre columbian graveyards all contain gold by the ton but the gold artifacts are all melted down into bars (Once melted down pre colombian gold artifacts are then legal to export). This with the full support and knowledge of the peruvian government and UNESCO. Make no wonder the really smart peruvian government scientists declared them meteorites. But you know what. The police in Peru are only interested in things of value. Since there is nothing of value (Except old scraptnel which could be sold as scarap metal I guess) in or around your crater and you have a legal document to protect it well maybe the police will enforce your legal title. You have the legalities to protcet your crater all in place. I would write more but this is just to funny. Sincerely DEAN PS: For people who want to know what this is the crater is an old bomb crater and the meteorites are either scraptnel or volcanic basalt - something you would think somebody from peru would know - even without university training. I had saved some of the online news reports of the meteorite crater that was in peru's media a couple years ago but unfortunately I seem to have deleted the links. Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Peruvian nutjob
I have been to peru maybe 20 times or more. I love the place and have a lot of friends there. And as somebody said yesterday on this list I can attest that the pisco sour is the worlds best drink (Worth going to peru just to drink it). Most of the time I go to arequipa where most of my peruvian friends live (And near where your crater is located). I used to pay people to grow black alpacas for me so that I could get rugs and teddy bears made out of black alpacas (Black is hard to get and I had to get them bred for me). I have exported many thousands of alpaca handicraft items which I sold on ebay and had customs made for me (When I lived in Canada I used to supply many alpaca farms in north america with teddy bears which I could supply cheaper than they could make them themselves from breeding the alpacas themselves). I also used to buy large amounts of minerals like peruvian opal which I bought hundreds of kilos at at time. Most of my friends in peru are in the tourist industry so I have lots of connections. You are right that most peruvians are honest - but the police are not. I can also tell the difference between volcanic basalt and meteorites. Your two links that you showed us shows a lot of cute maps and pictures of people but like the martian frass nutcase you dont show any actual meteorites (or even bomb craters for that matter). Unfortunately I stopped going to peru a couple years ago when I got married so no longer import the minerals and alpaca products. So yes, I am very familiar with the workings of Peruvian customs, police, immigration officials ect and not just making up stories. I know what I am talking about here when it comes to peru. As I said, I know in detail how life works in peru (And as I said earlier you should be aware yourself before you go that its not like kansas anymore - look at a map. Peru is outside the US borders and outside US laws). Cheers DEAN And as per my earlier email I already had your crater searched. I beat you to it. There are no meteorites --- Randall Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dean, How much time have you actually spent in Peru? Most of the people in Peru are good and honest people. Some police accept bribes. True. This is a poor country but many people are not as corrupt as you make them out to be. You paint a very dark picture of a country filled with good people. Laugh on... I'll provide the links you're missing. www.geocities.com/astroycpa/meteoritoaqp2feb2004.html http://www.graphicmail.de/rwcode/default.asp?SiteID=3691Section=13234 More can be found using the Google search terms- Meteorito Aplao or Meteorite Aplao Randall dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHA. Good One. This is the best one that I have herd since the pellisons reported that they see terrorists behind every rock and on the other side of their shot glasses. I was going to respond to this a couple days ago but well, its hard to type when you cant stop laughing at the stupidy and nievity of the posting. Do you ever try and study up on something and think a little before putting mouth in gear? This is all to funny. Trying to make people believe that american legal standards work in Peru. You have a piece of paper with something written on it. Do you know what a contract is worth in peru? I can assure you its worth less than in morocco where people dont bother getting contracts for deals worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. The value of your contract is certainly worth less than the 100 sole banknote that you hand the cop in charge of enforcing (Or turning a blind eye) the protection of your bomb crater. Do you know that in peru the police (excluding the tourist police), immigration and customs officials make mexicos traffic police seem like honest respectable law enforcement people (And theres an oxymoron for you - mexican traffic police and honest in the same sentence)? In Peru if you want to buy looted artifacts you go to the police, government and immigration officials (Better have some good connections first before you try that though). Let me ask yo this? Did you pay the police before you got your document? Police in peru wont take a statement from you without payment first. In Egypt they call it Backish. In Peru they dont try and sugar coat the fact. You should know before you search your crater that this is not kansas anymore. And here is something even funnier than thinking peru is an american state with enforcable american laws. I have already beaten you to the crater. About two or three years ago when the meteorites were being paraded through Peru's media (And obviously not meteorites even from th epictures) a couple of my friends went there looking anyway even though I told them it was a waste of time (Its easy to get to). But peruvian scientists declared the basalt to be meteorites. But you have to remember peru is a place
Re: [meteorite-list] Peruvian nutjob - NEWSPAPER ARTICLE
I found the newspaper clipping but unfortunately it seems that the online paper (http://www.larepublica.com.pe/) has taken down the link so I no longer have the photos of the bomb crater and volcanic basalt meteorites. All I have is the email that my friend sent to me with the forwarded text. But on or about Feb 5th, 2004 it has this article below: Bola de fuego cae en cerro de Arequipa _ Por GESSLER OJEDA Arequipa.- Los pobladores Científico Martín Fernández muestra fragmentos de un meteorito. vieron una enorme bola de fuego que se abrió paso por una espesa y oscura masa de nubes en el sector de El Castillo, distrito de Aplao, provincia de Castilla. El extraño objeto se precipitó a gran velocidad e impactó en un lejano cerro causando un potente estruendo y el terror de los pobladores. Se sintió un remezón. Era como un terremoto, dijeron los lugareños cuando se presentaron en la comisaría de Aplao, capital de la provincia, para reportar el extraño fenómeno. Otros llamaron al Instituto Geofísico de la Universidad Nacional de San Agustín (Unsa) para indagar más sobre el hecho que ocurrió el pasado lunes a las 12:30 horas. El Instituto Geofísico informó que no pueden afirmar ni descartar que se trate de un meteorito, pero aceptan que la ivestigación se maneja en ese sentido. Los datos del Departamento Científico de la Unsa no se contradicen con las versiones que llegaron desde Aplao. No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
