Re: [meteorite-list] Removal from the list - Aliens Did It!

2009-09-03 Thread Pete Pete

 
 
Hi Phil and List,
 
My intention was to make a connection between the topic "Extraterrestrial Life" 
and meteorites, not necessarily to discuss Panspermia...without six degrees ;)
 
Cheers,
Pete
 



> From: joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:27:17 -0400
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Removal from the list - Aliens Did It!
>
> Pete:
>
> I used to entertain notions of Panspermia, before I lost my religion
> (concerning outer space intelligent life). I don't think there are enough
> particles of matter to support the Brownian Motion necessary to move the
> spores or sperm or dna or what have you. Maybe here in our Local
> Neighborhood, but probably not in intergalactic space. Only a small
> percentage of matter as we know it is out there. Unless you get Brownian
> Motion from dark matter, dark energy, antimatter, or whatever that stuff is
> out there.
>
>
>
> Eric & Sterling: I agree with you 125% on the topicality of the question of
> the existence of outer space life.
>
> If you don't like the topic du jour, instead of yelping like a wounded
> beagle, why not just start a new thread that is so totally awesome that
> everyone starts discussing it instead.
>
> Phil Whitmer
>
> Two words: Panspermia Theory.
>
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[meteorite-list] Removal from the list - Aliens Did It!

2009-09-03 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum
The key words here are "unless interefered with".  That is like saying "all 
things being equal".  They never are!  Let's say an object is approaching 
our little sub spiral armlet, from the main spiral arm of the Milky Way. 
Or, if you want to keep it within the Local Neighborhood,  it's coming from 
the outer reaches of the Oort Cloud. Gosh, I can't think of one single thing 
that would interfere with it's motion! It's a complete and total vacuum all 
the way, no solar wind, no gravitational effects from Jupiter, etc.  NOT! 
Of course something is going to interfere with it. Maybe under an ideal set 
of circumstances that statement is true. But practically speaking, I believe 
something could quite possibly cause intereference.


Phil Whitmer

Phil, List,

You don't need Brownian motion of any kind.
"An object, set in motion, remains in uniform
motion unless interfered with." Some guy named
Newton said that.

You need to read up some. I said that.


Sterling K. Webb

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[meteorite-list] Removal from the list - Aliens Did It!

2009-09-03 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum

Sterling,

Yes, I've heard of that guy! (Danger, Will Robinson! Lame attempt at humor 
approaching!), and I love Fig Newtons!
I don't have time for no stinking reading, I work 2 jobs.  You must know 
from my posts that I just write down the first thing that pops into my head. 
(Kind of like you do for movie line quotes).


Besides, who needs to read, we have a thing nowadays called: Wikipedia! (I 
can even read it in Klingon or Esperanto!)


Phil Whitmer

Phil, List,

You don't need Brownian motion of any kind.
"An object, set in motion, remains in uniform
motion unless interfered with." Some guy named
Newton said that.

You need to read up some. I said that.


Sterling K. Webb

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Re: [meteorite-list] Removal from the list - Aliens Did It!

2009-09-03 Thread Sterling K. Webb

Phil, List,

You don't need Brownian motion of any kind.
"An object, set in motion, remains in uniform
motion unless interfered with." Some guy named
Newton said that.

You need to read up some. I said that.


Sterling K. Webb
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Removal from the list - Aliens Did It!



Pete:

I used to entertain notions of Panspermia, before I lost my religion 
(concerning outer space intelligent life).  I don't think there are 
enough particles of matter to support the Brownian Motion necessary to 
move the spores or sperm or dna or what have you.  Maybe here in our 
Local Neighborhood, but probably not in intergalactic space.  Only a 
small percentage of matter as we know it  is out there.  Unless you 
get Brownian Motion from dark matter, dark energy, antimatter, or 
whatever that stuff is out there.




Eric & Sterling:  I agree with you 125% on the topicality of the 
question of the existence of outer space life.


If you don't like the topic du jour,  instead of yelping like a 
wounded beagle, why not just start a new thread that is so totally 
awesome that everyone starts discussing it instead.


Phil Whitmer

Two words: Panspermia Theory.
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[meteorite-list] Removal from the list - Aliens Did It!

2009-09-03 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum

Pete:

I used to entertain notions of Panspermia, before I lost my religion 
(concerning outer space intelligent life).  I don't think there are enough 
particles of matter to support the Brownian Motion necessary to move the 
spores or sperm or dna or what have you.  Maybe here in our Local 
Neighborhood, but probably not in intergalactic space.  Only a small 
percentage of matter as we know it  is out there.  Unless you get Brownian 
Motion from dark matter, dark energy, antimatter, or whatever that stuff is 
out there.




Eric & Sterling:  I agree with you 125% on the topicality of the question of 
the existence of outer space life.


If you don't like the topic du jour,  instead of yelping like a wounded 
beagle, why not just start a new thread that is so totally awesome that 
everyone starts discussing it instead.


Phil Whitmer

Two words: Panspermia Theory. 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Removal from the list - Aliens Did It!

2009-09-03 Thread Meteorites USA
Not quite what I was referring to... But Panspermia is a valid theory 
nonetheless.


Regards,
Eric




Pete Pete wrote:
 
Two words: Panspermia Theory.




  

Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 22:26:53 -0700
From: e...@meteoritesusa.com
CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Removal from the list - Aliens Did It!

Hi Everyone,

With all due respect to all. This list has ONE forum. Almost ALL forums
online have many forum categories, and most have an off-topic category
forum for people to communicate their opinions and discuss off-topic
posts. It keeps the community whole and gives members who wish to
discuss off-topic issues, a choice. In other words you still do have a
choice. Read the post or hit your delete key.

The "Alien Life" thread is in fact either indirectly or possibly
directly related to meteorites, and therefore VERY worthy of this list.
Anyone who'd like to argue that notion should reconsider their own
understanding of what the study of meteorites truly means and their own
list membership. By complaining about seemingly off-topic posts in
regards to aliens people are in effect saying they don't want to learn
about their universe. Sorry if that seems harsh, but I've seen a lot
worse things on this list than the serious philosophical and
scientifically educated discussions of the possibility of life elsewhere
in the universe.

I for one would much rather discuss seriously the alien life subject in
relationship to the studies being performed on meteorites, and the
evidence being found within them that support the notion of life
elsewhere, rather than be a part of a forum who speaks unintelligently
about alien abduction, or close encounters and UFO sightings.

Besides, the whole reason behind the study of meteorites in the first
place is to learn MORE about our universe, and this CERTAINLY includes
the search for extraterrestrial life and in fact could center on it.
Those who would argue that scientific and logical discussion about the
possibilities of life elsewhere in our universe based on the connection
between that life and meteorites is somehow "Not Worthy" and "Off-Topic"
is somehow not entirely fair or correct.

It doesn't have to be a discussion about little green men, it has to do
with the study of meteorites and the real possibility of
extraterrestrial life, and the direct connections with meteorites if any
that exist.

To deny that is simply akin to an ostrich sticking it's head in the sand.

Regards,
Eric Wichman
Meteorites USA


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Re: [meteorite-list] Removal from the list - Aliens Did It!

2009-09-03 Thread Pete Pete

 
Two words: Panspermia Theory.



> Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 22:26:53 -0700
> From: e...@meteoritesusa.com
> CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Removal from the list - Aliens Did It!
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> With all due respect to all. This list has ONE forum. Almost ALL forums
> online have many forum categories, and most have an off-topic category
> forum for people to communicate their opinions and discuss off-topic
> posts. It keeps the community whole and gives members who wish to
> discuss off-topic issues, a choice. In other words you still do have a
> choice. Read the post or hit your delete key.
>
> The "Alien Life" thread is in fact either indirectly or possibly
> directly related to meteorites, and therefore VERY worthy of this list.
> Anyone who'd like to argue that notion should reconsider their own
> understanding of what the study of meteorites truly means and their own
> list membership. By complaining about seemingly off-topic posts in
> regards to aliens people are in effect saying they don't want to learn
> about their universe. Sorry if that seems harsh, but I've seen a lot
> worse things on this list than the serious philosophical and
> scientifically educated discussions of the possibility of life elsewhere
> in the universe.
>
> I for one would much rather discuss seriously the alien life subject in
> relationship to the studies being performed on meteorites, and the
> evidence being found within them that support the notion of life
> elsewhere, rather than be a part of a forum who speaks unintelligently
> about alien abduction, or close encounters and UFO sightings.
>
> Besides, the whole reason behind the study of meteorites in the first
> place is to learn MORE about our universe, and this CERTAINLY includes
> the search for extraterrestrial life and in fact could center on it.
> Those who would argue that scientific and logical discussion about the
> possibilities of life elsewhere in our universe based on the connection
> between that life and meteorites is somehow "Not Worthy" and "Off-Topic"
> is somehow not entirely fair or correct.
>
> It doesn't have to be a discussion about little green men, it has to do
> with the study of meteorites and the real possibility of
> extraterrestrial life, and the direct connections with meteorites if any
> that exist.
>
> To deny that is simply akin to an ostrich sticking it's head in the sand.
>
> Regards,
> Eric Wichman
> Meteorites USA
>
>
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[meteorite-list] Removal from the list - Aliens Did It!

2009-09-02 Thread Meteorites USA

Hi Everyone,

With all due respect to all. This list has ONE forum. Almost ALL forums 
online have many forum categories, and most have an off-topic category 
forum for people to communicate their opinions and discuss off-topic 
posts. It keeps the community whole and gives members who wish to 
discuss off-topic issues, a choice. In other words you still do have a 
choice. Read the post or hit your delete key.


The "Alien Life" thread is in fact either indirectly or possibly 
directly related to meteorites, and therefore VERY worthy of this list. 
Anyone who'd like to argue that notion should reconsider their own 
understanding of what the study of meteorites truly means and their own 
list membership. By complaining about seemingly off-topic posts in 
regards to aliens people are in effect saying they don't want to learn 
about their universe. Sorry if that seems harsh, but I've seen a lot 
worse things on this list than the serious philosophical and 
scientifically educated discussions of the possibility of life elsewhere 
in the universe.


I for one would much rather discuss seriously the alien life subject in 
relationship to the studies being performed on meteorites, and the 
evidence being found within them that support the notion of life 
elsewhere, rather than be a part of a forum who speaks unintelligently 
about alien abduction, or close encounters and UFO sightings.


Besides, the whole reason behind the study of meteorites in the first 
place is to learn MORE about our universe, and this CERTAINLY includes 
the search for extraterrestrial life and in fact could center on it. 
Those who would argue that scientific and logical discussion about the 
possibilities of life elsewhere in our universe based on the connection 
between that life and meteorites is somehow "Not Worthy" and "Off-Topic" 
is somehow not entirely fair or correct.


It doesn't have to be a discussion about little green men, it has to do 
with the study of meteorites and the real possibility of 
extraterrestrial life, and the direct connections with meteorites if any 
that exist.


To deny that is simply akin to an ostrich sticking it's head in the sand.

Regards,
Eric Wichman
Meteorites USA


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