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MikeG Fun test I would also have to say with question 2, Bonita Springs is the only meteorite I know of found with skeletons :) in a Indiana barrel mound. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html [meteorite-list] Test your Meteorite Knowledge, Win a Free Assortment of Micromounts!Michael Gilmer meteoritemike at gmail.com Tue May 24 18:22:48 EDT 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Test your Meteorite Knowledge, Win a Free Assortment of Micromounts! Next message: [meteorite-list] AD -Auctions Ending In A Few hours Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Hi List, I want to thank everyone who responded to the questions. :) Only one person answered both questions correctly. Here are the correct answers : Question #1 - Out of all the areas of the world known for finding meteorites, which area has yielded the most classified meteorites? Answer - The Yamato icefield of Antarctica. A staggering 13715 meteorites have been found and classified on this icefield. This is far more than any other region on the planet. In fact, according to the Meteoritical Society's List of Dense Collection Areas, 8 of the top 10 dense collection areas are in Antarctica. Yamato - (13715) NWA - (6161) - this number is undoubtedly larger and may not include provisional meteorites. Queen Alexandra Range - (3480) Asuka - (2527) Grove Mountains - (2436) Elephant Moraine - (2204) Lewis Cliff - (1960) Allan Hills - (1826) LaPaz Icefield - (1504) Dhofar - (1497) Miller Range - (1181) Question #2 - One meteorite, above all others, is known for being associated with Indian burial mounds. What is the name of this meteorite, and what is the name of the tribe associated with the mounds? Answer - the answer I had in mind was Brenham and the Hopewell mounds. However, Anne Black correctly pointed out that Winona was found in an Anasazi mound. This latter answer would have been acceptable also. BONUS QUESTION (good for one extra free micromount) - Name 3 meteorites that have struck motor vehicles. Answer - St. Louis, Peekskill, Benld, Neagari - those are 4 that come to mind, there may be more. Thanks for participating! MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 5/24/11, Michael Gilmer meteoritemike at gmail.com wrote: Greetings Listees, I have two meteorite-related questions to ask. The first person who answers both correctly will win a free selection of 5 different micromounts. These micros will include a hammer fall, 2 achondrites, and an iron meteorite. (exact identity of these specimens will remain a secret and will be a surprise for the winner!) Note, there is a bonus question. The winner need not answer the bonus question to win. I usually get a flood of responses to these freebie-questions, so I will notify the winner by email. After I notify the winner, I will post to the List that the contest is closed and I will reveal the correct answers. I may not have the time to reply to each entry individually. Question #1 - Out of all the areas of the world known for finding meteorites, which area has yielded the most classified meteorites? (Note - The Sahara, Antarctica, etc are not valid answers. I am looking for a specific locality, such as Acfer or Dhofar that is a part of the official nomenclature.) Question #2 - One meteorite, above all others, is known for being associated with Indian burial mounds. What is the name of this meteorite, and what is the name of the tribe associated with the mounds? BONUS QUESTION (good for one extra free micromount) - Name 3 meteorites that have struck motor vehicles. Send your answers to - meteoritemike at gmail.com Good luck! MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - -- Previous message: [meteorite-list] Test your Meteorite Knowledge, Win
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Greetings Listees, I have two meteorite-related questions to ask. The first person who answers both correctly will win a free selection of 5 different micromounts. These micros will include a hammer fall, 2 achondrites, and an iron meteorite. (exact identity of these specimens will remain a secret and will be a surprise for the winner!) Note, there is a bonus question. The winner need not answer the bonus question to win. I usually get a flood of responses to these freebie-questions, so I will notify the winner by email. After I notify the winner, I will post to the List that the contest is closed and I will reveal the correct answers. I may not have the time to reply to each entry individually. Question #1 - Out of all the areas of the world known for finding meteorites, which area has yielded the most classified meteorites? (Note - The Sahara, Antarctica, etc are not valid answers. I am looking for a specific locality, such as Acfer or Dhofar that is a part of the official nomenclature.) Question #2 - One meteorite, above all others, is known for being associated with Indian burial mounds. What is the name of this meteorite, and what is the name of the tribe associated with the mounds? BONUS QUESTION (good for one extra free micromount) - Name 3 meteorites that have struck motor vehicles. Send your answers to - meteoritem...@gmail.com Good luck! MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi List, I want to thank everyone who responded to the questions. :) Only one person answered both questions correctly. Here are the correct answers : Question #1 - Out of all the areas of the world known for finding meteorites, which area has yielded the most classified meteorites? Answer - The Yamato icefield of Antarctica. A staggering 13715 meteorites have been found and classified on this icefield. This is far more than any other region on the planet. In fact, according to the Meteoritical Society's List of Dense Collection Areas, 8 of the top 10 dense collection areas are in Antarctica. Yamato - (13715) NWA - (6161) - this number is undoubtedly larger and may not include provisional meteorites. Queen Alexandra Range - (3480) Asuka - (2527) Grove Mountains - (2436) Elephant Moraine - (2204) Lewis Cliff - (1960) Allan Hills - (1826) LaPaz Icefield - (1504) Dhofar - (1497) Miller Range - (1181) Question #2 - One meteorite, above all others, is known for being associated with Indian burial mounds. What is the name of this meteorite, and what is the name of the tribe associated with the mounds? Answer - the answer I had in mind was Brenham and the Hopewell mounds. However, Anne Black correctly pointed out that Winona was found in an Anasazi mound. This latter answer would have been acceptable also. BONUS QUESTION (good for one extra free micromount) - Name 3 meteorites that have struck motor vehicles. Answer - St. Louis, Peekskill, Benld, Neagari - those are 4 that come to mind, there may be more. Thanks for participating! MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 5/24/11, Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Listees, I have two meteorite-related questions to ask. The first person who answers both correctly will win a free selection of 5 different micromounts. These micros will include a hammer fall, 2 achondrites, and an iron meteorite. (exact identity of these specimens will remain a secret and will be a surprise for the winner!) Note, there is a bonus question. The winner need not answer the bonus question to win. I usually get a flood of responses to these freebie-questions, so I will notify the winner by email. After I notify the winner, I will post to the List that the contest is closed and I will reveal the correct answers. I may not have the time to reply to each entry individually. Question #1 - Out of all the areas of the world known for finding meteorites, which area has yielded the most classified meteorites? (Note - The Sahara, Antarctica, etc are not valid answers. I am looking for a specific locality, such as Acfer or Dhofar that is a part of the official nomenclature.) Question #2 - One meteorite, above all others, is known for being associated with Indian burial mounds. What is the name of this meteorite, and what is the name of the tribe associated with the mounds? BONUS QUESTION (good for one extra free micromount) - Name 3 meteorites that have struck motor vehicles. Send your answers to - meteoritem...@gmail.com Good luck! MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Folks! Wow, I am learning new things with these answers. Serpent Mound, Bonita Springs, and Havana were found in Indian mounds. Worden, Park Forest, and Barwell also struck automobiles. I knew about Bonita Springs, but figured it wasn't as well-known as Brenham. The rest of the answers were pleasant surprises. :) Best regards, MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 5/24/11, Graham Ensor graham.en...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mike, Park Forest and Barwell both hit carsthere must be more? Graham On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, I want to thank everyone who responded to the questions. :) Only one person answered both questions correctly. Here are the correct answers : Question #1 - Out of all the areas of the world known for finding meteorites, which area has yielded the most classified meteorites? Answer - The Yamato icefield of Antarctica. A staggering 13715 meteorites have been found and classified on this icefield. This is far more than any other region on the planet. In fact, according to the Meteoritical Society's List of Dense Collection Areas, 8 of the top 10 dense collection areas are in Antarctica. Yamato - (13715) NWA - (6161) - this number is undoubtedly larger and may not include provisional meteorites. Queen Alexandra Range - (3480) Asuka - (2527) Grove Mountains - (2436) Elephant Moraine - (2204) Lewis Cliff - (1960) Allan Hills - (1826) LaPaz Icefield - (1504) Dhofar - (1497) Miller Range - (1181) Question #2 - One meteorite, above all others, is known for being associated with Indian burial mounds. What is the name of this meteorite, and what is the name of the tribe associated with the mounds? Answer - the answer I had in mind was Brenham and the Hopewell mounds. However, Anne Black correctly pointed out that Winona was found in an Anasazi mound. This latter answer would have been acceptable also. BONUS QUESTION (good for one extra free micromount) - Name 3 meteorites that have struck motor vehicles. Answer - St. Louis, Peekskill, Benld, Neagari - those are 4 that come to mind, there may be more. Thanks for participating! MikeG __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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As far as Antarctic finds go, the numbers are skewed and biased. Every fragment is counted as a find. The finds from Antarctica are only a fraction of what they once were. Pretty soon, it won't be cost effective to work this area. If they counted the number of meteorites from Northwest Africa the same way, then there would easily be over one million pieces. There must be over 100,000 pieces of NWA 869 alone! The Sahara Desert is by far the most productive meteorite producing region in the world, second to none! More weight and rare specimens have come from this area by far. Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I totally agree Adam. Sincerely Don Merchant - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Test your Meteorite Knowledge,Win a Free Assortment of Micromounts! As far as Antarctic finds go, the numbers are skewed and biased. Every fragment is counted as a find. The finds from Antarctica are only a fraction of what they once were. Pretty soon, it won't be cost effective to work this area. If they counted the number of meteorites from Northwest Africa the same way, then there would easily be over one million pieces. There must be over 100,000 pieces of NWA 869 alone! The Sahara Desert is by far the most productive meteorite producing region in the world, second to none! More weight and rare specimens have come from this area by far. Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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List: I have always wondered if every single NWA was classified, just how many 'new' discoveries would be made. I realize it may not be practical (just think of the time and expense) by still interesting to think about. Greg S From: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com To: raremeteori...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 18:59:14 -0500 CC: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Test your Meteorite Knowledge, Win a Free Assortment of Micromounts! I totally agree Adam. Sincerely Don Merchant - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe To: Adam Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Test your Meteorite Knowledge,Win a Free Assortment of Micromounts! As far as Antarctic finds go, the numbers are skewed and biased. Every fragment is counted as a find. The finds from Antarctica are only a fraction of what they once were. Pretty soon, it won't be cost effective to work this area. If they counted the number of meteorites from Northwest Africa the same way, then there would easily be over one million pieces. There must be over 100,000 pieces of NWA 869 alone! The Sahara Desert is by far the most productive meteorite producing region in the world, second to none! More weight and rare specimens have come from this area by far. Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Adam, Good point and I had not considered that. It does seem like more than half of the Antarctics in the Bulletin weigh less than 2-5 grams. Some weigh less than 1g. I think we need to make sure that all NWA meteorites get their fair due and receive individual classification. What reputable scientist will now step forward and agree to classify (pro bono) one million sandblasted H5/W4 fragments? Any volunteers? Ted? Alan? Tony? ;) LOL I also agree that, hands down, the Sahara has produced far more rare types and planetaries than Antarctica. But, Antarctica still claims the Holy Grail (to some) of meteorites - ALH84001. I'm glad I posted this little contest today, it has resulted in some knowledge gain. :) Best regards, MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 5/24/11, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: As far as Antarctic finds go, the numbers are skewed and biased. Every fragment is counted as a find. The finds from Antarctica are only a fraction of what they once were. Pretty soon, it won't be cost effective to work this area. If they counted the number of meteorites from Northwest Africa the same way, then there would easily be over one million pieces. There must be over 100,000 pieces of NWA 869 alone! The Sahara Desert is by far the most productive meteorite producing region in the world, second to none! More weight and rare specimens have come from this area by far. Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Mike, I think it is good to have contests and bring issues to the forefront. You claimed: But, Antarctica still claims the Holy Grail (to some) of meteorites - ALH84001. My response: There are other Martian Meteorites (Nakhlites) that exhibit the same characteristics that made this stone most famous. Don't get me wrong, ALH84001 is a unique and fantastic stone. I believe there are equally fantastic and unique stones from the Sahara and more of them than from Antarctica. They are just not thrown in front of the press and promoted as hard. Best Regards, Adam - Original Message From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 4:22:44 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Test your Meteorite Knowledge, Win a Free Assortment of Micromounts! Hi Adam, Good point and I had not considered that. It does seem like more than half of the Antarctics in the Bulletin weigh less than 2-5 grams. Some weigh less than 1g. I think we need to make sure that all NWA meteorites get their fair due and receive individual classification. What reputable scientist will now step forward and agree to classify (pro bono) one million sandblasted H5/W4 fragments? Any volunteers? Ted? Alan? Tony? ;) LOL I also agree that, hands down, the Sahara has produced far more rare types and planetaries than Antarctica. But, Antarctica still claims the Holy Grail (to some) of meteorites - ALH84001. I'm glad I posted this little contest today, it has resulted in some knowledge gain. :) Best regards, MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 5/24/11, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: As far as Antarctic finds go, the numbers are skewed and biased. Every fragment is counted as a find. The finds from Antarctica are only a fraction of what they once were. Pretty soon, it won't be cost effective to work this area. If they counted the number of meteorites from Northwest Africa the same way, then there would easily be over one million pieces. There must be over 100,000 pieces of NWA 869 alone! The Sahara Desert is by far the most productive meteorite producing region in the world, second to none! More weight and rare specimens have come from this area by far. Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Adam- There are other Martian Meteorites (Nakhlites) that exhibit the same characteristics that made this stone most famous. Which ones and what characteristics? -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Test your Meteorite Knowledge,Win a Free Assortment of Micromounts! Hi Mike, I think it is good to have contests and bring issues to the forefront. You claimed: But, Antarctica still claims the Holy Grail (to some) of meteorites - ALH84001. My response: There are other Martian Meteorites (Nakhlites) that exhibit the same characteristics that made this stone most famous. Don't get me wrong, ALH84001 is a unique and fantastic stone. I believe there are equally fantastic and unique stones from the Sahara and more of them than from Antarctica. They are just not thrown in front of the press and promoted as hard. Best Regards, Adam - Original Message From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 4:22:44 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Test your Meteorite Knowledge, Win a Free Assortment of Micromounts! Hi Adam, Good point and I had not considered that. It does seem like more than half of the Antarctics in the Bulletin weigh less than 2-5 grams. Some weigh less than 1g. I think we need to make sure that all NWA meteorites get their fair due and receive individual classification. What reputable scientist will now step forward and agree to classify (pro bono) one million sandblasted H5/W4 fragments? Any volunteers? Ted? Alan? Tony? ;) LOL I also agree that, hands down, the Sahara has produced far more rare types and planetaries than Antarctica. But, Antarctica still claims the Holy Grail (to some) of meteorites - ALH84001. I'm glad I posted this little contest today, it has resulted in some knowledge gain. :) Best regards, MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 5/24/11, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: As far as Antarctic finds go, the numbers are skewed and biased. Every fragment is counted as a find. The finds from Antarctica are only a fraction of what they once were. Pretty soon, it won't be cost effective to work this area. If they counted the number of meteorites from Northwest Africa the same way, then there would easily be over one million pieces. There must be over 100,000 pieces of NWA 869 alone! The Sahara Desert is by far the most productive meteorite producing region in the world, second to none! More weight and rare specimens have come from this area by far. Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Just a few minor corrections. Hopewell and Anasazi are not names of tribes. They signify prehistoric traditions or cultures, not individual tribes. We don't know the names of prehistoric tribes because they left no written histories. The large earthworks built by Midwestern and Eastern prehistoric American Indians are not burial mounds. While some contain burials, this does not seem to be the primary purpose of the mounds. Archaeologists believe the mounds were for ceremonial and social purposes. Some have postulated the earthern structures were astronomical observatories. I just saw a documentary on the Chaco Canyon culture where they showed how all the buildings, kivas and towers were designed to line up on the solstices. The western Native Americans did not build mounds. It was the Sinagua people, not the Anasazi, who interred the Winona meteorite in a stone cist dug into the floor of a pit house. Phil Paints With Heart Whitmer (Coquille tribal name) __ Hi List, I want to thank everyone who responded to the questions. :) Only one person answered both questions correctly. Here are the correct answers : Question #1 - Out of all the areas of the world known for finding meteorites, which area has yielded the most classified meteorites? Answer - The Yamato icefield of Antarctica. A staggering 13715 meteorites have been found and classified on this icefield. This is far more than any other region on the planet. In fact, according to the Meteoritical Society's List of Dense Collection Areas, 8 of the top 10 dense collection areas are in Antarctica. Yamato - (13715) NWA - (6161) - this number is undoubtedly larger and may not include provisional meteorites. Queen Alexandra Range - (3480) Asuka - (2527) Grove Mountains - (2436) Elephant Moraine - (2204) Lewis Cliff - (1960) Allan Hills - (1826) LaPaz Icefield - (1504) Dhofar - (1497) Miller Range - (1181) Question #2 - One meteorite, above all others, is known for being associated with Indian burial mounds. What is the name of this meteorite, and what is the name of the tribe associated with the mounds? Answer - the answer I had in mind was Brenham and the Hopewell mounds. However, Anne Black correctly pointed out that Winona was found in an Anasazi mound. This latter answer would have been acceptable also. BONUS QUESTION (good for one extra free micromount) - Name 3 meteorites that have struck motor vehicles. Answer - St. Louis, Peekskill, Benld, Neagari - those are 4 that come to mind, there may be more. Thanks for participating! MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Phil, Thanks for the clarifications. Just when I think I am a smart cookie, I find out that I don't know jack squat. LOL So, I wonder what the modern finders of the Winona meteorite thought when they dug it up? Did they know it was a meteorite at first? And what other artifacts were found in that same hole (if any)? This makes me wonder if Winona was a witnessed fall? Would the indians have known that Winona was special and not just another rock, unless they had seen it fall? Best regards, MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - \ On 5/24/11, JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com wrote: Just a few minor corrections. Hopewell and Anasazi are not names of tribes. They signify prehistoric traditions or cultures, not individual tribes. We don't know the names of prehistoric tribes because they left no written histories. The large earthworks built by Midwestern and Eastern prehistoric American Indians are not burial mounds. While some contain burials, this does not seem to be the primary purpose of the mounds. Archaeologists believe the mounds were for ceremonial and social purposes. Some have postulated the earthern structures were astronomical observatories. I just saw a documentary on the Chaco Canyon culture where they showed how all the buildings, kivas and towers were designed to line up on the solstices. The western Native Americans did not build mounds. It was the Sinagua people, not the Anasazi, who interred the Winona meteorite in a stone cist dug into the floor of a pit house. Phil Paints With Heart Whitmer (Coquille tribal name) __ Hi List, I want to thank everyone who responded to the questions. :) Only one person answered both questions correctly. Here are the correct answers : Question #1 - Out of all the areas of the world known for finding meteorites, which area has yielded the most classified meteorites? Answer - The Yamato icefield of Antarctica. A staggering 13715 meteorites have been found and classified on this icefield. This is far more than any other region on the planet. In fact, according to the Meteoritical Society's List of Dense Collection Areas, 8 of the top 10 dense collection areas are in Antarctica. Yamato - (13715) NWA - (6161) - this number is undoubtedly larger and may not include provisional meteorites. Queen Alexandra Range - (3480) Asuka - (2527) Grove Mountains - (2436) Elephant Moraine - (2204) Lewis Cliff - (1960) Allan Hills - (1826) LaPaz Icefield - (1504) Dhofar - (1497) Miller Range - (1181) Question #2 - One meteorite, above all others, is known for being associated with Indian burial mounds. What is the name of this meteorite, and what is the name of the tribe associated with the mounds? Answer - the answer I had in mind was Brenham and the Hopewell mounds. However, Anne Black correctly pointed out that Winona was found in an Anasazi mound. This latter answer would have been acceptable also. BONUS QUESTION (good for one extra free micromount) - Name 3 meteorites that have struck motor vehicles. Answer - St. Louis, Peekskill, Benld, Neagari - those are 4 that come to mind, there may be more. Thanks for participating! MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Adam, List and all... Will the NWA deserts continue to yield numbers? Considering the ice-sheet models vs. desert sands, my question surrounds the ablation issue(terrestrial)... ice vs. sand. Which environment will yield more?? Considering constraints of foraging in sub-zero-temp environs and still, the challenging (and sometimes politically lethal) desert environs...what are this List's thoughts? Have any studies been done in this regard? We are living in the meteorite-rushdiscoveries of new finds in our cherished discovery zones will eventually become depletedand I've thought that the African deserts would soon become depleted in relation to ice-ablation models in the antartic...yet, considering the vast area (miles^2) of sand vs. ice, and considering the ongoing discoveries in the desert, not even to mention sand ablation...I do wonder. -Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Test your Meteorite Knowledge,Win a Free Assortment of Micromounts! As far as Antarctic finds go, the numbers are skewed and biased. Every fragment is counted as a find. The finds from Antarctica are only a fraction of what they once were. Pretty soon, it won't be cost effective to work this area. If they counted the number of meteorites from Northwest Africa the same way, then there would easily be over one million pieces. There must be over 100,000 pieces of NWA 869 alone! The Sahara Desert is by far the most productive meteorite producing region in the world, second to none! More weight and rare specimens have come from this area by far. Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hello Mike: It seems strange that the Sinagua people venerated an unusual achrondite (metachondrite) meteorite stone when they were so close to the Canyon Diablo crater and strewnfield. Surely they noticed how different the iron meteorites were from other local rocks. Yet they chose to bury an extremely rare type stone meteorite in the same manner as they would a child. Small children have been found buried in similar stone cists on pit house floors. This egg-shaped 24 kg rock was somehow special to them. Nobody knows why. According to Nininger, the Navaho irons were found in 1922 buried under stones piled into a cairn. Ornaments were found underneath one of the meteorites. The irons had grooves on their surfaces from stone tools. Also in 1922, the Mesa Verde meteorite was discovered in the remains of the Sun Shrine House in Mesa Verde National Park. In 1930, the Pojoaque meteorite was found buried in a clay pot on a village site. Archaeological investigators speculated the stone was carried around in a mojo bag due to its signs of wear by handling. Nininger later paired the Pojoaque with the Glorietta, found about 30 miles from the village site. The Casas Grandes iron was found buried in the Casa Grandes ruins of Chihuahua. It was discovered wrapped in a mummy cloth. The Huizopa irons were found in ruins in western Chihuahua. Nininger adds that the meteorites of Red River, Wichita County, Iron Creek, Willamette and Cape York were all objects of veneration and the destination of pilmigrages. All the irons associated with aboriginal peoples make it even weirder that the Winona was treated as a special rock. We'll never know the story. Phil Whitmer _ Hi Phil, Thanks for the clarifications. Just when I think I am a smart cookie, I find out that I don't know jack squat. LOL So, I wonder what the modern finders of the Winona meteorite thought when they dug it up? Did they know it was a meteorite at first? And what other artifacts were found in that same hole (if any)? This makes me wonder if Winona was a witnessed fall? Would the indians have known that Winona was special and not just another rock, unless they had seen it fall? Best regards, MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - \ On 5/24/11, JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemuseum at embarqmail.com wrote: Just a few minor corrections. Hopewell and Anasazi are not names of tribes. They signify prehistoric traditions or cultures, not individual tribes. We don't know the names of prehistoric tribes because they left no written histories. The large earthworks built by Midwestern and Eastern prehistoric American Indians are not burial mounds. While some contain burials, this does not seem to be the primary purpose of the mounds. Archaeologists believe the mounds were for ceremonial and social purposes. Some have postulated the earthern structures were astronomical observatories. I just saw a documentary on the Chaco Canyon culture where they showed how all the buildings, kivas and towers were designed to line up on the solstices. The western Native Americans did not build mounds. It was the Sinagua people, not the Anasazi, who interred the Winona meteorite in a stone cist dug into the floor of a pit house. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Phil, Exactly! I thought the same thing about Bonita Springs. A big 100-pound lump of rock that isn't pretty, isn't covered in peridot crystals or shiny iron. Bonita was transported to a mound (pre-Calusa in all likelihood) at a time when horses had not been introduced by the Europeans yet. How many people would lug around a back-breaking rock that doesn't look like anything special? Apparently the Indians saw or felt something special about Bonita - perhaps they witnessed it's fall. The same may be true for Winona. With Brenham and Diablo (or any iron or pallasite), it's easy to imagine some Indian finding it and saying Wow! Look at this! It must be special. But I can't imagine them saying that about Winona or Bonita Springs. A real mystery in my opinion. I have personal pet theories about Bonita Springs, but I don't want to share them yet until I do some more research. Best regards, MikeG -- - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 5/24/11, JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com wrote: Hello Mike: It seems strange that the Sinagua people venerated an unusual achrondite (metachondrite) meteorite stone when they were so close to the Canyon Diablo crater and strewnfield. Surely they noticed how different the iron meteorites were from other local rocks. Yet they chose to bury an extremely rare type stone meteorite in the same manner as they would a child. Small children have been found buried in similar stone cists on pit house floors. This egg-shaped 24 kg rock was somehow special to them. Nobody knows why. According to Nininger, the Navaho irons were found in 1922 buried under stones piled into a cairn. Ornaments were found underneath one of the meteorites. The irons had grooves on their surfaces from stone tools. Also in 1922, the Mesa Verde meteorite was discovered in the remains of the Sun Shrine House in Mesa Verde National Park. In 1930, the Pojoaque meteorite was found buried in a clay pot on a village site. Archaeological investigators speculated the stone was carried around in a mojo bag due to its signs of wear by handling. Nininger later paired the Pojoaque with the Glorietta, found about 30 miles from the village site. The Casas Grandes iron was found buried in the Casa Grandes ruins of Chihuahua. It was discovered wrapped in a mummy cloth. The Huizopa irons were found in ruins in western Chihuahua. Nininger adds that the meteorites of Red River, Wichita County, Iron Creek, Willamette and Cape York were all objects of veneration and the destination of pilmigrages. All the irons associated with aboriginal peoples make it even weirder that the Winona was treated as a special rock. We'll never know the story. Phil Whitmer _ Hi Phil, Thanks for the clarifications. Just when I think I am a smart cookie, I find out that I don't know jack squat. LOL So, I wonder what the modern finders of the Winona meteorite thought when they dug it up? Did they know it was a meteorite at first? And what other artifacts were found in that same hole (if any)? This makes me wonder if Winona was a witnessed fall? Would the indians have known that Winona was special and not just another rock, unless they had seen it fall? Best regards, MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - \ On 5/24/11, JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemuseum at embarqmail.com wrote: Just a few minor corrections. Hopewell and Anasazi are not names of tribes. They signify prehistoric traditions or cultures, not individual tribes. We don't know the names of prehistoric tribes because they left no written histories. The large earthworks built by Midwestern and Eastern prehistoric American Indians are not burial mounds. While some contain burials, this does not seem to be the primary purpose of the mounds. Archaeologists believe the mounds were for ceremonial and social purposes. Some have postulated the earthern structures were astronomical observatories. I just
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What about the Grayton Beach stone which was found in a native midden (garbage dump)! Chris Spratt (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Forgive me if this is an insensitive question, I don't mean any disrespect. Is Harold still with us? I couldn't find anything on the web to answer that. Oddly, he doesn't have a Wikipedia entry and he seems deserving of one. Best regards, MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 5/24/11, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com wrote: What about the Grayton Beach stone which was found in a native midden (garbage dump)! Chris Spratt (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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PM sent. Chris Spratt (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Walter and List, While I am certainly no expert on the subject, the discovery of organized elements (fossil lifeforms) like the ones that made ALH84001 famous have been found in every Nakhlite that has been analyzed so far. Researches told me and reported in the news that NWA 998 is choked full of these same structures. I suspended sells of NWA 998 a long time ago so this is not a trick on my behalf to promote it. The researchers are doing a great job of this themselves. Nakhla was the second meteorite that these organized elements, for lack of a better term, were found. I think Jim Strope has some available despite his announcement that all sales of NWA 998 are suspended until further notice. Best Regards, Adam - Original Message From: Walter Branch waltbra...@bellsouth.net To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 5:13:34 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Test your Meteorite Knowledge,Win a Free Assortment of Micromounts! Adam- There are other Martian Meteorites (Nakhlites) that exhibit the same characteristics that made this stone most famous. Which ones and what characteristics? -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Test your Meteorite Knowledge,Win a Free Assortment of Micromounts! Hi Mike, I think it is good to have contests and bring issues to the forefront. You claimed: But, Antarctica still claims the Holy Grail (to some) of meteorites - ALH84001. My response: There are other Martian Meteorites (Nakhlites) that exhibit the same characteristics that made this stone most famous. Don't get me wrong, ALH84001 is a unique and fantastic stone. I believe there are equally fantastic and unique stones from the Sahara and more of them than from Antarctica. They are just not thrown in front of the press and promoted as hard. Best Regards, Adam - Original Message From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 4:22:44 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Test your Meteorite Knowledge, Win a Free Assortment of Micromounts! Hi Adam, Good point and I had not considered that. It does seem like more than half of the Antarctics in the Bulletin weigh less than 2-5 grams. Some weigh less than 1g. I think we need to make sure that all NWA meteorites get their fair due and receive individual classification. What reputable scientist will now step forward and agree to classify (pro bono) one million sandblasted H5/W4 fragments? Any volunteers? Ted? Alan? Tony? ;) LOL I also agree that, hands down, the Sahara has produced far more rare types and planetaries than Antarctica. But, Antarctica still claims the Holy Grail (to some) of meteorites - ALH84001. I'm glad I posted this little contest today, it has resulted in some knowledge gain. :) Best regards, MikeG - - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - - On 5/24/11, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: As far as Antarctic finds go, the numbers are skewed and biased. Every fragment is counted as a find. The finds from Antarctica are only a fraction of what they once were. Pretty soon, it won't be cost effective to work this area. If they counted the number of meteorites from Northwest Africa the same way, then there would easily be over one million pieces. There must be over 100,000 pieces of NWA 869 alone! The Sahara Desert is by far the most productive meteorite producing region in the world, second to none! More weight and rare specimens have come from this area by far. Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html
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Phil Wrote: All the irons associated with aboriginal peoples make it even weirder that the Winona was treated as a special rock. We'll never know the story. My best guess: Winonaite inclusions are found in iron meteorites. Winona is not that far from Meteor Crater in Winslow. Perhaps Winona and Canyon Diablo are related. Maybe the shape and density of the meteorite made it desirable to the Native Americans.Native Americans were experts at working with stones and know when something is special. Thousands of years of working rocks have fine tuned their culture to know when something is special. Best Regards, Adam - Original Message From: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 6:49:24 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Test your Meteorite Knowledge, Win a Free Assortment of Micromounts! Native Americans and Meteorites Hello Mike: It seems strange that the Sinagua people venerated an unusual achrondite (metachondrite) meteorite stone when they were so close to the Canyon Diablo crater and strewnfield. Surely they noticed how different the iron meteorites were from other local rocks. Yet they chose to bury an extremely rare type stone meteorite in the same manner as they would a child. Small children have been found buried in similar stone cists on pit house floors. This egg-shaped 24 kg rock was somehow special to them. Nobody knows why. According to Nininger, the Navaho irons were found in 1922 buried under stones piled into a cairn. Ornaments were found underneath one of the meteorites. The irons had grooves on their surfaces from stone tools. Also in 1922, the Mesa Verde meteorite was discovered in the remains of the Sun Shrine House in Mesa Verde National Park. In 1930, the Pojoaque meteorite was found buried in a clay pot on a village site. Archaeological investigators speculated the stone was carried around in a mojo bag due to its signs of wear by handling. Nininger later paired the Pojoaque with the Glorietta, found about 30 miles from the village site. The Casas Grandes iron was found buried in the Casa Grandes ruins of Chihuahua. It was discovered wrapped in a mummy cloth. The Huizopa irons were found in ruins in western Chihuahua. Nininger adds that the meteorites of Red River, Wichita County, Iron Creek, Willamette and Cape York were all objects of veneration and the destination of pilmigrages. All the irons associated with aboriginal peoples make it even weirder that the Winona was treated as a special rock. We'll never know the story. Phil Whitmer _ Hi Phil, Thanks for the clarifications. Just when I think I am a smart cookie, I find out that I don't know jack squat. LOL So, I wonder what the modern finders of the Winona meteorite thought when they dug it up? Did they know it was a meteorite at first? And what other artifacts were found in that same hole (if any)? This makes me wonder if Winona was a witnessed fall? Would the indians have known that Winona was special and not just another rock, unless they had seen it fall? Best regards, MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - \ On 5/24/11, JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemuseum at embarqmail.com wrote: Just a few minor corrections. Hopewell and Anasazi are not names of tribes. They signify prehistoric traditions or cultures, not individual tribes. We don't know the names of prehistoric tribes because they left no written histories. The large earthworks built by Midwestern and Eastern prehistoric American Indians are not burial mounds. While some contain burials, this does not seem to be the primary purpose of the mounds. Archaeologists believe the mounds were for ceremonial and social purposes. Some have postulated the earthern structures were astronomical observatories. I just saw a documentary on the Chaco Canyon culture where they showed how all the buildings, kivas and towers were designed to line up on the solstices. The western Native Americans did not build mounds. It was the Sinagua people, not the Anasazi, who interred the Winona meteorite in a stone cist dug into the floor of a pit house. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Adam, This is true, however I was thinking more along the lines of the crystallization age of ALH8400 setting it apart from all other Martian meteorites, making it truly unique among Martians. Do you or anyone else know of a Martian meteorite which comes close to the crystallization age of ALH84001? Maybe I missed it. If so, I would be grateful for any info. -Walter - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Test your Meteorite Knowledge,Win a Free Assortment of Micromounts! Hi Walter and List, While I am certainly no expert on the subject, the discovery of organized elements (fossil lifeforms) like the ones that made ALH84001 famous have been found in every Nakhlite that has been analyzed so far. Researches told me and reported in the news that NWA 998 is choked full of these same structures. I suspended sells of NWA 998 a long time ago so this is not a trick on my behalf to promote it. The researchers are doing a great job of this themselves. Nakhla was the second meteorite that these organized elements, for lack of a better term, were found. I think Jim Strope has some available despite his announcement that all sales of NWA 998 are suspended until further notice. Best Regards, Adam - Original Message From: Walter Branch waltbra...@bellsouth.net To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 5:13:34 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Test your Meteorite Knowledge,Win a Free Assortment of Micromounts! Adam- There are other Martian Meteorites (Nakhlites) that exhibit the same characteristics that made this stone most famous. Which ones and what characteristics? -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Test your Meteorite Knowledge,Win a Free Assortment of Micromounts! Hi Mike, I think it is good to have contests and bring issues to the forefront. You claimed: But, Antarctica still claims the Holy Grail (to some) of meteorites - ALH84001. My response: There are other Martian Meteorites (Nakhlites) that exhibit the same characteristics that made this stone most famous. Don't get me wrong, ALH84001 is a unique and fantastic stone. I believe there are equally fantastic and unique stones from the Sahara and more of them than from Antarctica. They are just not thrown in front of the press and promoted as hard. Best Regards, Adam - Original Message From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 4:22:44 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Test your Meteorite Knowledge, Win a Free Assortment of Micromounts! Hi Adam, Good point and I had not considered that. It does seem like more than half of the Antarctics in the Bulletin weigh less than 2-5 grams. Some weigh less than 1g. I think we need to make sure that all NWA meteorites get their fair due and receive individual classification. What reputable scientist will now step forward and agree to classify (pro bono) one million sandblasted H5/W4 fragments? Any volunteers? Ted? Alan? Tony? ;) LOL I also agree that, hands down, the Sahara has produced far more rare types and planetaries than Antarctica. But, Antarctica still claims the Holy Grail (to some) of meteorites - ALH84001. I'm glad I posted this little contest today, it has resulted in some knowledge gain. :) Best regards, MikeG - - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - - On 5/24/11, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: As far as Antarctic finds go, the numbers are skewed and biased. Every fragment is counted as a find. The finds from Antarctica are only a fraction of what they once were. Pretty soon, it won't be cost effective to work this area. If they counted the number of meteorites from Northwest Africa the same way, then there would easily be over one million pieces. There must be over 100,000 pieces of NWA 869 alone! The Sahara Desert is by far the most productive meteorite producing region in the world, second to none! More weight and rare specimens have come from this area by far. Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http
