Re: [meteorite-list] Titicaca meteorite-- phinally, photos
It is a real meteorite, the black is not fusion crust, but rather exposed shock veins. Very interesting meteorite, and not much will be found. FORGET about getting crater material, it has been more than two weeks in horrible water that people are urinating in for fun! The meteorite is very fragile, very porous, and will be rotted out already. I spoke with the landowner, who was our driver for days, and he told me that no more than 20-30 kilos was found and most was taken by tourists and locals. We managed to get some pieces in town from people who had picked them up, and we all found pieces ourselves with metal detectors. I found a metal nodule more than 1 cm, weighing 6 grams. Very interesting. I think it is an H5. Michael Farmer Any labs or scientists on this list who want samples, email me, I will gladly provide. Mike --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More photos: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/titicaca/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Titicaca meteorite-- phinally, photos
only 20-30 kg? and where is go the others? A similar crater minimum is a mass type Jilin Matteo - Original Message - Da : Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : [EMAIL PROTECTED], Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] Titicaca meteorite-- phinally, photos Data : Tue, 2 Oct 2007 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT) It is a real meteorite, the black is not fusion crust, but rather exposed shock veins. Very interesting meteorite, and not much will be found. FORGET about getting crater material, it has been more than two weeks in horrible water that people are urinating in for fun! The meteorite is very fragile, very porous, and will be rotted out already. I spoke with the landowner, who was our driver for days, and he told me that no more than 20-30 kilos was found and most was taken by tourists and locals. We managed to get some pieces in town from people who had picked them up, and we all found pieces ourselves with metal detectors. I found a metal nodule more than 1 cm, weighing 6 grams. Very interesting. I think it is an H5. Michael Farmer Any labs or scientists on this list who want samples, email me, I will gladly provide. Mike --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More photos: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/titicaca/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Titicaca meteorite-- phinally, photos
Matteo, did you not see the huge crater filled with several meters of water? The rest of the meteorite is 4 or 5 meters under sewage water. Good luck getting some of that. I had a meeting with the townspeople and mayor of Desaguadero ( and I have video to prove it all) and we pumped out the water yesterday, but like I said, Peru works differently than the rest of the world, as soon as the water was pumped out, they quit work for the day at 1 pm, and watched the water refill the crater. They said MANANA which means tomorrow or the next day, or the next etc etc etc. Then things got very hot, and we bugged out, to leave the largest stone meteorite likely known to rot in its disgusting grave. They think the crater will make a great tourist site to make on. For people who live in the mud, it seems they would know that the first rains will collapse the crater and make nothing more than a water-filled depression. I am sure tourists will pour in by the busload to check that mudpit out. Michael Farmer --- M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: only 20-30 kg? and where is go the others? A similar crater minimum is a mass type Jilin Matteo - Original Message - Da : Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : [EMAIL PROTECTED], Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] Titicaca meteorite-- phinally, photos Data : Tue, 2 Oct 2007 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT) It is a real meteorite, the black is not fusion crust, but rather exposed shock veins. Very interesting meteorite, and not much will be found. FORGET about getting crater material, it has been more than two weeks in horrible water that people are urinating in for fun! The meteorite is very fragile, very porous, and will be rotted out already. I spoke with the landowner, who was our driver for days, and he told me that no more than 20-30 kilos was found and most was taken by tourists and locals. We managed to get some pieces in town from people who had picked them up, and we all found pieces ourselves with metal detectors. I found a metal nodule more than 1 cm, weighing 6 grams. Very interesting. I think it is an H5. Michael Farmer Any labs or scientists on this list who want samples, email me, I will gladly provide. Mike --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More photos: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/titicaca/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Titicaca meteorite-- phinally, photos
It is a real meteorite, the black is not fusion crust, but rather exposed shock veins. Very interesting meteorite, and not much will be found. FORGET about getting crater material, it has been more than two weeks in horrible water that people are urinating in for fun! The meteorite is very fragile, very porous, and will be rotted out already. Hi Mike and List Great that You save some material from this peruvian irresponsible individuals. If meteorite is as big as You say (1ton or larger) I think it will not rust so fast. Remember Bjurbole that land on sea bottom (and hit ice cover)? It is one of the most porous meteorites and all material I have seen is fresh. And ofcourse salt water is more destructive than sweet water. But anyway one thing is obvious, if they not dig it up, this will fall to pieces. And they will lose crater, meteorite and tourists money. But nothing can be ideal. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Titicaca meteorite-- phinally, photos
It MUST be more than 3 or 4 tons, the crater is huge, much larger than Jilin main mass crater, there were pieces of sod (maybe 40 kilograms chunks of hard soil) thrown more than 100 meters in every direction. One piece hit the landowners home and damaged the roof. It is simple physics to know that the mass which made that crater must weigh many tons. As fragile as the meteorite is, I think the pieces are soaking up the water and rusting to hell already. Wonderful for science study I guess. Michael Farmer --- PolandMET marcinIt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a real meteorite, the black is not fusion crust, but rather exposed shock veins. Very interesting meteorite, and not much will be found. FORGET about getting crater material, it has been more than two weeks in horrible water that people are urinating in for fun! The meteorite is very fragile, very porous, and will be rotted out already. Hi Mike and List Great that You save some material from this peruvian irresponsible individuals. If meteorite is as big as You say (1ton or larger) I think it will not rust so fast. Remember Bjurbole that land on sea bottom (and hit ice cover)? It is one of the most porous meteorites and all material I have seen is fresh. And ofcourse salt water is more destructive than sweet water. But anyway one thing is obvious, if they not dig it up, this will fall to pieces. And they will lose crater, meteorite and tourists money. But nothing can be ideal. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Titicaca meteorite-- phinally, photos
Supplied by Randal Gregory. I believe that these are the first photos of any of the meteorite to be available. http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/titicaca/DSC00010.JPG http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/titicaca/DSC00014.JPG Could it be an LL? The color, and the orangish spot in the first photo remind me of NWA 1584 (with the orangish in 1584 being around the troilite). __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Titicaca meteorite-- phinally, photos
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Re: [meteorite-list] Titicaca meteorite-- phinally, photos
Than you very much for the photos. I am willing to concede that this is probably really a meteorite fall. I had big doubts earlier, because it was so anomalous compared to what we usually expect from a fall (choking vapors, 'boiling' water, no meteorite recovered at first, little scientific information either except for the media hype). I look forward to the final analysis. Supposedly the area was shelled with additional small rocks. Has anyone recovered any of these other pieces? If they found some that hadn't been sitting in the bottom of a noxious puddle for several days, that would be even more scientifically valuable. Tracy Latimer From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 22:22:55 -0400 Subject: [meteorite-list] Titicaca meteorite-- phinally, photos Supplied by Randal Gregory. I believe that these are the first photos of any of the meteorite to be available. http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/titicaca/DSC00010.JPG http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/titicaca/DSC00014.JPG Could it be an LL? The color, and the orangish spot in the first photo remind me of NWA 1584 (with the orangish in 1584 being around the troilite). __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Titicaca meteorite-- phinally, photos
(Forwarded, from Randall Gregory) Darren, (post please, but respond privately) What do you think it's worth? What would be a fair and just price since I have yet to put any stones on Ebay. I would certainly prefer to avoid the hassles of Ebay, cuz I just don't have the time. I would rather be on the road. Right now, I'm looking to cover my expenses and a little reserve for future expeditions. I'm posponing my trip to the Amazon River and plan on going back to the crater next week for 3 or 4 days and with equipment. I have the owner's permission to scour the area, including inside the crater. [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Titicaca meteorite-- phinally, photos
(post re: discussion on tips on how best to photograph meteorites, and request for opinions, forwarded for RG about Peru meteorite. Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Please post. Yes, my film camera is a Nikon F100 with large aperature Nikon lenses. I normally use Fuji Professional Velvia. shit I just realized something. I used to shoot blank and white using Kodak Tech-Pan then developing my own negatives because there was no labs that could process it at the time. I shot a newspaper page taped to my garage door standing across the street, blew it up and you could clearly read the print. How important is color in meteorite photos vs. detail? I could get extreme detail by switching to Tech Pan, but that would require me to return to the United States for a bit. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Titicaca meteorite-- phinally, photos
(post re: discussion on tips on how best to photograph meteorites, and request for opinions, forwarded for RG about Peru meteorite. Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Please post. Yes, my film camera is a Nikon F100 with large aperature Nikon lenses. I normally use Fuji Professional Velvia. shit I just realized something. I used to shoot blank and white using Kodak Tech-Pan then developing my own negatives because there was no labs that could process it at the time. I shot a newspaper page taped to my garage door standing across the street, blew it up and you could clearly read the print. How important is color in meteorite photos vs. detail? I could get extreme detail by switching to Tech Pan, but that would require me to return to the United States for a bit. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Titicaca meteorite-- phinally, photos
Sorry that message went through multiple times-- seems to have been a hiccup in the list, and I didn't think it went through. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
