[meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)
Hi List. What an exciting week in the world of meteorites/asteroids! So here goes...If you had only the choice of picking one small fragment for your collection what would it be. Here are the choices: Black Beauty Martian meteorite NWA 7034 or A fragment of the recent and most historic event of the Russian meteorite in Chebarkul. Lets just say for ships and giggles that if you pick one you can never have the other! Any thoughts? Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)
Given there is probably more tkw of black beauty than chebarkul at the moment - give me 'the Russian blonde'! :) Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Don Merchant Sent: 19 February 2013 13:14 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Don Merchant Subject: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Hi List. What an exciting week in the world of meteorites/asteroids! So here goes...If you had only the choice of picking one small fragment for your collection what would it be. Here are the choices: Black Beauty Martian meteorite NWA 7034 or A fragment of the recent and most historic event of the Russian meteorite in Chebarkul. Lets just say for ships and giggles that if you pick one you can never have the other! Any thoughts? Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)
Please, no comparison. Give me the Russian fall any day of the week. A rock that stunned the world over another Moroccan Martian meteorite find? Every university class on space/meteorites/impacts will endlessly study this event. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 6:14 AM, Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com wrote: Hi List. What an exciting week in the world of meteorites/asteroids! So here goes...If you had only the choice of picking one small fragment for your collection what would it be. Here are the choices: Black Beauty Martian meteorite NWA 7034 or A fragment of the recent and most historic event of the Russian meteorite in Chebarkul. Lets just say for ships and giggles that if you pick one you can never have the other! Any thoughts? Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)
Why discriminate? Both are history-making meteorites in their own rights. Black Beauty is not just another Mars rock and the Russian fall is far from ordinary. We should see this as an opportunity (if there is the opportunity to own the Russian fall) and them both to our collections. Matt Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote: Given there is probably more tkw of black beauty than chebarkul at the moment - give me 'the Russian blonde'! :) Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Don Merchant Sent: 19 February 2013 13:14 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Don Merchant Subject: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Hi List. What an exciting week in the world of meteorites/asteroids! So here goes...If you had only the choice of picking one small fragment for your collection what would it be. Here are the choices: Black Beauty Martian meteorite NWA 7034 or A fragment of the recent and most historic event of the Russian meteorite in Chebarkul. Lets just say for ships and giggles that if you pick one you can never have the other! Any thoughts? Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites PO Box 151293 Lakewood CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com Find Us on Facebook __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)
But one problem, the Russian fall is likely going to be relatively cheap, I am sure hundreds of kilos will be found and the price will likely be low. For $500 people will be able to buy one or many stones. $500 in black beauty gets you a speck hardly identifiable as a meteorite. Both are very interesting meteorites, scientifically the Mars is more interesting but dynamically the Russian fall is history-book material. No comparison in my opinion:) I'll be in Russia very soon, so get your pennies counted:) Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: Why discriminate? Both are history-making meteorites in their own rights. Black Beauty is not just another Mars rock and the Russian fall is far from ordinary. We should see this as an opportunity (if there is the opportunity to own the Russian fall) and them both to our collections. Matt Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote: Given there is probably more tkw of black beauty than chebarkul at the moment - give me 'the Russian blonde'! :) Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Don Merchant Sent: 19 February 2013 13:14 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Don Merchant Subject: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Hi List. What an exciting week in the world of meteorites/asteroids! So here goes...If you had only the choice of picking one small fragment for your collection what would it be. Here are the choices: Black Beauty Martian meteorite NWA 7034 or A fragment of the recent and most historic event of the Russian meteorite in Chebarkul. Lets just say for ships and giggles that if you pick one you can never have the other! Any thoughts? Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites PO Box 151293 Lakewood CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com Find Us on Facebook __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)
Of course that is all true. Point I was making is that they are both FRIGGIN COOL so why say one is better than the other? We can debate that all day, just count your lucky stars! Good luck in Russia Matt Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: But one problem, the Russian fall is likely going to be relatively cheap, I am sure hundreds of kilos will be found and the price will likely be low. For $500 people will be able to buy one or many stones. $500 in black beauty gets you a speck hardly identifiable as a meteorite. Both are very interesting meteorites, scientifically the Mars is more interesting but dynamically the Russian fall is history-book material. No comparison in my opinion:) I'll be in Russia very soon, so get your pennies counted:) Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: Why discriminate? Both are history-making meteorites in their own rights. Black Beauty is not just another Mars rock and the Russian fall is far from ordinary. We should see this as an opportunity (if there is the opportunity to own the Russian fall) and them both to our collections. Matt Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote: Given there is probably more tkw of black beauty than chebarkul at the moment - give me 'the Russian blonde'! :) Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Don Merchant Sent: 19 February 2013 13:14 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Don Merchant Subject: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Hi List. What an exciting week in the world of meteorites/asteroids! So here goes...If you had only the choice of picking one small fragment for your collection what would it be. Here are the choices: Black Beauty Martian meteorite NWA 7034 or A fragment of the recent and most historic event of the Russian meteorite in Chebarkul. Lets just say for ships and giggles that if you pick one you can never have the other! Any thoughts? Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites PO Box 151293 Lakewood CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com Find Us on Facebook __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites PO Box 151293 Lakewood CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com Find Us on Facebook __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)
I agree, but was answering the question posed and choosing one as instructed:) Mike Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: Of course that is all true. Point I was making is that they are both FRIGGIN COOL so why say one is better than the other? We can debate that all day, just count your lucky stars! Good luck in Russia Matt Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: But one problem, the Russian fall is likely going to be relatively cheap, I am sure hundreds of kilos will be found and the price will likely be low. For $500 people will be able to buy one or many stones. $500 in black beauty gets you a speck hardly identifiable as a meteorite. Both are very interesting meteorites, scientifically the Mars is more interesting but dynamically the Russian fall is history-book material. No comparison in my opinion:) I'll be in Russia very soon, so get your pennies counted:) Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: Why discriminate? Both are history-making meteorites in their own rights. Black Beauty is not just another Mars rock and the Russian fall is far from ordinary. We should see this as an opportunity (if there is the opportunity to own the Russian fall) and them both to our collections. Matt Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote: Given there is probably more tkw of black beauty than chebarkul at the moment - give me 'the Russian blonde'! :) Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Don Merchant Sent: 19 February 2013 13:14 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Don Merchant Subject: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Hi List. What an exciting week in the world of meteorites/asteroids! So here goes...If you had only the choice of picking one small fragment for your collection what would it be. Here are the choices: Black Beauty Martian meteorite NWA 7034 or A fragment of the recent and most historic event of the Russian meteorite in Chebarkul. Lets just say for ships and giggles that if you pick one you can never have the other! Any thoughts? Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites PO Box 151293 Lakewood CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com Find Us on Facebook __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites PO Box 151293 Lakewood CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com Find Us on Facebook __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)
Agreed, they are both cool. So if Schrodinger's cat can be dead and alive at the same time, I would ignore the rules and get both. Mendy Ouzillou From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) But one problem, the Russian fall is likely going to be relatively cheap, I am sure hundreds of kilos will be found and the price will likely be low. For $500 people will be able to buy one or many stones. $500 in black beauty gets you a speck hardly identifiable as a meteorite. Both are very interesting meteorites, scientifically the Mars is more interesting but dynamically the Russian fall is history-book material. No comparison in my opinion:) I'll be in Russia very soon, so get your pennies counted:) Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: Why discriminate? Both are history-making meteorites in their own rights. Black Beauty is not just another Mars rock and the Russian fall is far from ordinary. We should see this as an opportunity (if there is the opportunity to own the Russian fall) and them both to our collections. Matt Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote: Given there is probably more tkw of black beauty than chebarkul at the moment - give me 'the Russian blonde'! :) Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Don Merchant Sent: 19 February 2013 13:14 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Don Merchant Subject: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Hi List. What an exciting week in the world of meteorites/asteroids! So here goes...If you had only the choice of picking one small fragment for your collection what would it be. Here are the choices: Black Beauty Martian meteorite NWA 7034 or A fragment of the recent and most historic event of the Russian meteorite in Chebarkul. Lets just say for ships and giggles that if you pick one you can never have the other! Any thoughts? Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites PO Box 151293 Lakewood CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com Find Us on Facebook __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)
Hi Mike and List, I will definitely be waiting for Mike to get back from Russia, with pennies counted. So far, everything I have seen offered on the eBay Quagmire are outright-fakes, misrepresented Sikhotes, or dog poop. I want a real piece - not a piece of slag from one of the many industrial sites scattered around the Urals. :) PS - Mike, don't forget your geiger counter. There are some hot sites in that region. ;) Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 2/19/13, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: I agree, but was answering the question posed and choosing one as instructed:) Mike Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: Of course that is all true. Point I was making is that they are both FRIGGIN COOL so why say one is better than the other? We can debate that all day, just count your lucky stars! Good luck in Russia Matt Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: But one problem, the Russian fall is likely going to be relatively cheap, I am sure hundreds of kilos will be found and the price will likely be low. For $500 people will be able to buy one or many stones. $500 in black beauty gets you a speck hardly identifiable as a meteorite. Both are very interesting meteorites, scientifically the Mars is more interesting but dynamically the Russian fall is history-book material. No comparison in my opinion:) I'll be in Russia very soon, so get your pennies counted:) Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: Why discriminate? Both are history-making meteorites in their own rights. Black Beauty is not just another Mars rock and the Russian fall is far from ordinary. We should see this as an opportunity (if there is the opportunity to own the Russian fall) and them both to our collections. Matt Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote: Given there is probably more tkw of black beauty than chebarkul at the moment - give me 'the Russian blonde'! :) Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Don Merchant Sent: 19 February 2013 13:14 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Don Merchant Subject: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Hi List. What an exciting week in the world of meteorites/asteroids! So here goes...If you had only the choice of picking one small fragment for your collection what would it be. Here are the choices: Black Beauty Martian meteorite NWA 7034 or A fragment of the recent and most historic event of the Russian meteorite in Chebarkul. Lets just say for ships and giggles that if you pick one you can never have the other! Any thoughts? Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites PO Box 151293 Lakewood CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com Find Us on Facebook __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites PO Box 151293 Lakewood CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com Find Us on Facebook __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)
Aw, invoking shrodinger's cat is cheating! :) Ok, in this universe, i'll take the Russian, in the other one the Martian.. lol -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy Ouzillou Sent: 19 February 2013 15:57 To: Michael Farmer; Matt Morgan Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Agreed, they are both cool. So if Schrodinger's cat can be dead and alive at the same time, I would ignore the rules and get both. Mendy Ouzillou From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) But one problem, the Russian fall is likely going to be relatively cheap, I am sure hundreds of kilos will be found and the price will likely be low. For $500 people will be able to buy one or many stones. $500 in black beauty gets you a speck hardly identifiable as a meteorite. Both are very interesting meteorites, scientifically the Mars is more interesting but dynamically the Russian fall is history-book material. No comparison in my opinion:) I'll be in Russia very soon, so get your pennies counted:) Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: Why discriminate? Both are history-making meteorites in their own rights. Black Beauty is not just another Mars rock and the Russian fall is far from ordinary. We should see this as an opportunity (if there is the opportunity to own the Russian fall) and them both to our collections. Matt Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote: Given there is probably more tkw of black beauty than chebarkul at the moment - give me 'the Russian blonde'! :) Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Don Merchant Sent: 19 February 2013 13:14 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Don Merchant Subject: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Hi List. What an exciting week in the world of meteorites/asteroids! So here goes...If you had only the choice of picking one small fragment for your collection what would it be. Here are the choices: Black Beauty Martian meteorite NWA 7034 or A fragment of the recent and most historic event of the Russian meteorite in Chebarkul. Lets just say for ships and giggles that if you pick one you can never have the other! Any thoughts? Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites PO Box 151293 Lakewood CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com Find Us on Facebook __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)
I'll take the Martian if we are playing that game. Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote: Aw, invoking shrodinger's cat is cheating! :) Ok, in this universe, i'll take the Russian, in the other one the Martian.. lol -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy Ouzillou Sent: 19 February 2013 15:57 To: Michael Farmer; Matt Morgan Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Agreed, they are both cool. So if Schrodinger's cat can be dead and alive at the same time, I would ignore the rules and get both. Mendy Ouzillou From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) But one problem, the Russian fall is likely going to be relatively cheap, I am sure hundreds of kilos will be found and the price will likely be low. For $500 people will be able to buy one or many stones. $500 in black beauty gets you a speck hardly identifiable as a meteorite. Both are very interesting meteorites, scientifically the Mars is more interesting but dynamically the Russian fall is history-book material. No comparison in my opinion:) I'll be in Russia very soon, so get your pennies counted:) Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: Why discriminate? Both are history-making meteorites in their own rights. Black Beauty is not just another Mars rock and the Russian fall is far from ordinary. We should see this as an opportunity (if there is the opportunity to own the Russian fall) and them both to our collections. Matt Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote: Given there is probably more tkw of black beauty than chebarkul at the moment - give me 'the Russian blonde'! :) Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Don Merchant Sent: 19 February 2013 13:14 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Don Merchant Subject: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Hi List. What an exciting week in the world of meteorites/asteroids! So here goes...If you had only the choice of picking one small fragment for your collection what would it be. Here are the choices: Black Beauty Martian meteorite NWA 7034 or A fragment of the recent and most historic event of the Russian meteorite in Chebarkul. Lets just say for ships and giggles that if you pick one you can never have the other! Any thoughts? Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites PO Box 151293 Lakewood CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com Find Us on Facebook __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites PO Box 151293 Lakewood CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com Find Us on Facebook __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)
In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an Ordinary Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed fall with thousands of pieces on the market.. A witnessed fall may very well lose 90% of its value within a month or two once its coolness factor wears off. The real story is in the event and once the limited amount of collectors get their hands on some, the demand drops off quickly. On the other hand, the way overpriced Martian meteorite will be appreciated much longer unless pairings and competition drag the price down. I always wait at least six months before investing in either one so that I am am not paying 4 to 10 times its settled value. Adam - Original Message - From: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com To: Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) I'll take the Martian if we are playing that game. Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote: Aw, invoking shrodinger's cat is cheating! :) Ok, in this universe, i'll take the Russian, in the other one the Martian.. lol -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy Ouzillou Sent: 19 February 2013 15:57 To: Michael Farmer; Matt Morgan Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Agreed, they are both cool. So if Schrodinger's cat can be dead and alive at the same time, I would ignore the rules and get both. Mendy Ouzillou From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) But one problem, the Russian fall is likely going to be relatively cheap, I am sure hundreds of kilos will be found and the price will likely be low. For $500 people will be able to buy one or many stones. $500 in black beauty gets you a speck hardly identifiable as a meteorite. Both are very interesting meteorites, scientifically the Mars is more interesting but dynamically the Russian fall is history-book material. No comparison in my opinion:) I'll be in Russia very soon, so get your pennies counted:) Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: Why discriminate? Both are history-making meteorites in their own rights. Black Beauty is not just another Mars rock and the Russian fall is far from ordinary. We should see this as an opportunity (if there is the opportunity to own the Russian fall) and them both to our collections. Matt Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote: Given there is probably more tkw of black beauty than chebarkul at the moment - give me 'the Russian blonde'! :) Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Don Merchant Sent: 19 February 2013 13:14 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Don Merchant Subject: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Hi List. What an exciting week in the world of meteorites/asteroids! So here goes...If you had only the choice of picking one small fragment for your collection what would it be. Here are the choices: Black Beauty Martian meteorite NWA 7034 or A fragment of the recent and most historic event of the Russian meteorite in Chebarkul. Lets just say for ships and giggles that if you pick one you can never have the other! Any thoughts? Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites PO Box 151293 Lakewood CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com Find Us on Facebook __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)
Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every tv in the world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure thousands of stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is insane, already dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it. This Russian fall has excited the world, my sales are surging because of interest. I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every collection in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few people. I know where I am going to put my money. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an Ordinary Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed fall with thousands of pieces on the market.. A witnessed fall may very well lose 90% of its value within a month or two once its coolness factor wears off. The real story is in the event and once the limited amount of collectors get their hands on some, the demand drops off quickly. On the other hand, the way overpriced Martian meteorite will be appreciated much longer unless pairings and competition drag the price down. I always wait at least six months before investing in either one so that I am am not paying 4 to 10 times its settled value. Adam - Original Message - From: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com To: Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) I'll take the Martian if we are playing that game. Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote: Aw, invoking shrodinger's cat is cheating! :) Ok, in this universe, i'll take the Russian, in the other one the Martian.. lol -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy Ouzillou Sent: 19 February 2013 15:57 To: Michael Farmer; Matt Morgan Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Agreed, they are both cool. So if Schrodinger's cat can be dead and alive at the same time, I would ignore the rules and get both. Mendy Ouzillou From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) But one problem, the Russian fall is likely going to be relatively cheap, I am sure hundreds of kilos will be found and the price will likely be low. For $500 people will be able to buy one or many stones. $500 in black beauty gets you a speck hardly identifiable as a meteorite. Both are very interesting meteorites, scientifically the Mars is more interesting but dynamically the Russian fall is history-book material. No comparison in my opinion:) I'll be in Russia very soon, so get your pennies counted:) Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: Why discriminate? Both are history-making meteorites in their own rights. Black Beauty is not just another Mars rock and the Russian fall is far from ordinary. We should see this as an opportunity (if there is the opportunity to own the Russian fall) and them both to our collections. Matt Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote: Given there is probably more tkw of black beauty than chebarkul at the moment - give me 'the Russian blonde'! :) Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Don Merchant Sent: 19 February 2013 13:14 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Don Merchant Subject: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Hi List. What an exciting week in the world of meteorites/asteroids! So here goes...If you had only the choice of picking one small fragment for your collection what would it be. Here are the choices: Black Beauty Martian meteorite NWA 7034 or A fragment of the recent and most historic event of the Russian meteorite in Chebarkul. Lets just say for ships and giggles that if you pick one you can never have the other! Any thoughts? Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net
Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)
Great points Mike and Adam. Because my wallet has been taking a beating from the U.S. economy all I can say is Mike set a piece of Russian fall aside for me! Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every tv in the world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure thousands of stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is insane, already dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it. This Russian fall has excited the world, my sales are surging because of interest. I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every collection in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few people. I know where I am going to put my money. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an Ordinary Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed fall with thousands of pieces on the market.. A witnessed fall may very well lose 90% of its value within a month or two once its coolness factor wears off. The real story is in the event and once the limited amount of collectors get their hands on some, the demand drops off quickly. On the other hand, the way overpriced Martian meteorite will be appreciated much longer unless pairings and competition drag the price down. I always wait at least six months before investing in either one so that I am am not paying 4 to 10 times its settled value. Adam - Original Message - From: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com To: Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) I'll take the Martian if we are playing that game. Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote: Aw, invoking shrodinger's cat is cheating! :) Ok, in this universe, i'll take the Russian, in the other one the Martian.. lol -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy Ouzillou Sent: 19 February 2013 15:57 To: Michael Farmer; Matt Morgan Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Agreed, they are both cool. So if Schrodinger's cat can be dead and alive at the same time, I would ignore the rules and get both. Mendy Ouzillou From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) But one problem, the Russian fall is likely going to be relatively cheap, I am sure hundreds of kilos will be found and the price will likely be low. For $500 people will be able to buy one or many stones. $500 in black beauty gets you a speck hardly identifiable as a meteorite. Both are very interesting meteorites, scientifically the Mars is more interesting but dynamically the Russian fall is history-book material. No comparison in my opinion:) I'll be in Russia very soon, so get your pennies counted:) Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: Why discriminate? Both are history-making meteorites in their own rights. Black Beauty is not just another Mars rock and the Russian fall is far from ordinary. We should see this as an opportunity (if there is the opportunity to own the Russian fall) and them both to our collections. Matt Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote: Given there is probably more tkw of black beauty than chebarkul at the moment - give me 'the Russian blonde'! :) Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Don Merchant Sent: 19 February 2013 13:14 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Don Merchant Subject: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Hi List. What an exciting week in the world of meteorites/asteroids! So here goes...If you had only the choice of picking one small fragment for your collection what would it be. Here are the choices: Black Beauty Martian meteorite NWA 7034 or A fragment of the recent and most historic event of the Russian meteorite
Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)
This is what makes meteorite collecting interesting. Some prefer falls and some prefer rare types. I am saying that historically, there is way more bang for the buck in a planetary piece than a fall unless it is a planetary fall. The last Martian fall maintains around 40% of the initial offering price whereas the last several chondrite falls only maintains about 10-20% of their initial offer price. For the most part, unless some dealer becomes desperate and charges way too much on his credit card, Planetary finds have the best record for maintaining price in the long run. With over a dozen falls a year, Ordinary Chondrite falls are literately a dime a dozen these days, excuse the pun. You can purchase very old witnessed falls at a bargain by comparison to more recent falls with asking prices much higher. I would prefer very old falls for investment purposes. I like planetary pieces above all else and to me, they will always be king. Adam From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every tv in the world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure thousands of stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is insane, already dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it. This Russian fall has excited the world, my sales are surging because of interest. I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every collection in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few people. I know where I am going to put my money. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an Ordinary Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed fall with thousands of pieces on the market.. A witnessed fall may very well lose 90% of its value within a month or two once its coolness factor wears off. The real story is in the event and once the limited amount of collectors get their hands on some, the demand drops off quickly. On the other hand, the way overpriced Martian meteorite will be appreciated much longer unless pairings and competition drag the price down. I always wait at least six months before investing in either one so that I am am not paying 4 to 10 times its settled value. Adam - Original Message - From: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com To: Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) I'll take the Martian if we are playing that game. Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote: Aw, invoking shrodinger's cat is cheating! :) Ok, in this universe, i'll take the Russian, in the other one the Martian.. lol -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy Ouzillou Sent: 19 February 2013 15:57 To: Michael Farmer; Matt Morgan Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Agreed, they are both cool. So if Schrodinger's cat can be dead and alive at the same time, I would ignore the rules and get both. Mendy Ouzillou From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) But one problem, the Russian fall is likely going to be relatively cheap, I am sure hundreds of kilos will be found and the price will likely be low. For $500 people will be able to buy one or many stones. $500 in black beauty gets you a speck hardly identifiable as a meteorite. Both are very interesting meteorites, scientifically the Mars is more interesting but dynamically the Russian fall is history-book material. No comparison in my opinion:) I'll be in Russia very soon, so get your pennies counted:) Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: Why discriminate? Both are history-making meteorites in their own rights. Black Beauty is not just another Mars rock and the Russian fall is far from ordinary. We should see this as an opportunity (if there is the opportunity to own the Russian fall) and them both to our collections. Matt Mark Ford mark.f
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Adam, those who bought black beauty for $20,000 gram will lose 90%. I expect this Russia fall to be couple bucks a gram for larger material. Anyone paying $50+ gram for this will be an idiot just like those buying fakes on eBay. Please don't stoop to calling this a boring ordinary meteorite, it isn't! Call it anything you want, a nuclear-bomb blast magnitude common chondrite on the news 24/7 for last 5 days, Gimme Gimme gimme! Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: This is what makes meteorite collecting interesting. Some prefer falls and some prefer rare types. I am saying that historically, there is way more bang for the buck in a planetary piece than a fall unless it is a planetary fall. The last Martian fall maintains around 40% of the initial offering price whereas the last several chondrite falls only maintains about 10-20% of their initial offer price. For the most part, unless some dealer becomes desperate and charges way too much on his credit card, Planetary finds have the best record for maintaining price in the long run. With over a dozen falls a year, Ordinary Chondrite falls are literately a dime a dozen these days, excuse the pun. You can purchase very old witnessed falls at a bargain by comparison to more recent falls with asking prices much higher. I would prefer very old falls for investment purposes. I like planetary pieces above all else and to me, they will always be king. Adam From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every tv in the world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure thousands of stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is insane, already dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it. This Russian fall has excited the world, my sales are surging because of interest. I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every collection in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few people. I know where I am going to put my money. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an Ordinary Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed fall with thousands of pieces on the market.. A witnessed fall may very well lose 90% of its value within a month or two once its coolness factor wears off. The real story is in the event and once the limited amount of collectors get their hands on some, the demand drops off quickly. On the other hand, the way overpriced Martian meteorite will be appreciated much longer unless pairings and competition drag the price down. I always wait at least six months before investing in either one so that I am am not paying 4 to 10 times its settled value. Adam - Original Message - From: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com To: Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) I'll take the Martian if we are playing that game. Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote: Aw, invoking shrodinger's cat is cheating! :) Ok, in this universe, i'll take the Russian, in the other one the Martian.. lol -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy Ouzillou Sent: 19 February 2013 15:57 To: Michael Farmer; Matt Morgan Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Agreed, they are both cool. So if Schrodinger's cat can be dead and alive at the same time, I would ignore the rules and get both. Mendy Ouzillou From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) But one problem, the Russian fall is likely going to be relatively cheap, I am sure hundreds of kilos will be found and the price will likely be low. For $500 people will be able to buy one or many stones. $500 in black beauty gets you a speck hardly identifiable as a meteorite. Both are very interesting meteorites, scientifically the Mars is more
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So where does this leave Tissint...one of the most undervalued meteorites of all time. If it had come down as it did , but in the USA or UK...what would have the price beenand yet what is the difference. Pricing at the moment has gone bonkers. Graham On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Adam, those who bought black beauty for $20,000 gram will lose 90%. I expect this Russia fall to be couple bucks a gram for larger material. Anyone paying $50+ gram for this will be an idiot just like those buying fakes on eBay. Please don't stoop to calling this a boring ordinary meteorite, it isn't! Call it anything you want, a nuclear-bomb blast magnitude common chondrite on the news 24/7 for last 5 days, Gimme Gimme gimme! Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: This is what makes meteorite collecting interesting. Some prefer falls and some prefer rare types. I am saying that historically, there is way more bang for the buck in a planetary piece than a fall unless it is a planetary fall. The last Martian fall maintains around 40% of the initial offering price whereas the last several chondrite falls only maintains about 10-20% of their initial offer price. For the most part, unless some dealer becomes desperate and charges way too much on his credit card, Planetary finds have the best record for maintaining price in the long run. With over a dozen falls a year, Ordinary Chondrite falls are literately a dime a dozen these days, excuse the pun. You can purchase very old witnessed falls at a bargain by comparison to more recent falls with asking prices much higher. I would prefer very old falls for investment purposes. I like planetary pieces above all else and to me, they will always be king. Adam From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every tv in the world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure thousands of stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is insane, already dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it. This Russian fall has excited the world, my sales are surging because of interest. I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every collection in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few people. I know where I am going to put my money. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an Ordinary Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed fall with thousands of pieces on the market.. A witnessed fall may very well lose 90% of its value within a month or two once its coolness factor wears off. The real story is in the event and once the limited amount of collectors get their hands on some, the demand drops off quickly. On the other hand, the way overpriced Martian meteorite will be appreciated much longer unless pairings and competition drag the price down. I always wait at least six months before investing in either one so that I am am not paying 4 to 10 times its settled value. Adam - Original Message - From: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com To: Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) I'll take the Martian if we are playing that game. Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote: Aw, invoking shrodinger's cat is cheating! :) Ok, in this universe, i'll take the Russian, in the other one the Martian.. lol -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy Ouzillou Sent: 19 February 2013 15:57 To: Michael Farmer; Matt Morgan Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Agreed, they are both cool. So if Schrodinger's cat can be dead and alive at the same time, I would ignore the rules and get both. Mendy Ouzillou From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) But one problem, the Russian fall is likely going
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I am not calling it boring. I think it is very exciting but not $500.00 gram exciting. The event itself is astonishing but at $500.00 a gram, it is more than 10 times higher than Pultusk! In my opinion, Anybody asking $20,000.00 a gram for a Martian meteorite these days is being plan greedy. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Adam, those who bought black beauty for $20,000 gram will lose 90%. I expect this Russia fall to be couple bucks a gram for larger material. Anyone paying $50+ gram for this will be an idiot just like those buying fakes on eBay. Please don't stoop to calling this a boring ordinary meteorite, it isn't! Call it anything you want, a nuclear-bomb blast magnitude common chondrite on the news 24/7 for last 5 days, Gimme Gimme gimme! Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: This is what makes meteorite collecting interesting. Some prefer falls and some prefer rare types. I am saying that historically, there is way more bang for the buck in a planetary piece than a fall unless it is a planetary fall. The last Martian fall maintains around 40% of the initial offering price whereas the last several chondrite falls only maintains about 10-20% of their initial offer price. For the most part, unless some dealer becomes desperate and charges way too much on his credit card, Planetary finds have the best record for maintaining price in the long run. With over a dozen falls a year, Ordinary Chondrite falls are literately a dime a dozen these days, excuse the pun. You can purchase very old witnessed falls at a bargain by comparison to more recent falls with asking prices much higher. I would prefer very old falls for investment purposes. I like planetary pieces above all else and to me, they will always be king. Adam From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every tv in the world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure thousands of stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is insane, already dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it. This Russian fall has excited the world, my sales are surging because of interest. I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every collection in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few people. I know where I am going to put my money. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an Ordinary Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed fall with thousands of pieces on the market.. A witnessed fall may very well lose 90% of its value within a month or two once its coolness factor wears off. The real story is in the event and once the limited amount of collectors get their hands on some, the demand drops off quickly. On the other hand, the way overpriced Martian meteorite will be appreciated much longer unless pairings and competition drag the price down. I always wait at least six months before investing in either one so that I am am not paying 4 to 10 times its settled value. Adam - Original Message - From: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com To: Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) I'll take the Martian if we are playing that game. Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote: Aw, invoking shrodinger's cat is cheating! :) Ok, in this universe, i'll take the Russian, in the other one the Martian.. lol -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy Ouzillou Sent: 19 February 2013 15:57 To: Michael Farmer; Matt Morgan Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Agreed, they are both cool. So if Schrodinger's cat can be dead and alive at the same time, I would ignore the rules and get both. Mendy Ouzillou From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Matt
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Who said this would be $500 gram? There is always idiotic numbers floating around. As a massive fall it will be a fair price I am sure. Anyway the free market will work, price too high, no sales. Black beauty was sold abs marketed for $20k gram. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: I am not calling it boring. I think it is very exciting but not $500.00 gram exciting. The event itself is astonishing but at $500.00 a gram, it is more than 10 times higher than Pultusk! In my opinion, Anybody asking $20,000.00 a gram for a Martian meteorite these days is being plan greedy. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Adam, those who bought black beauty for $20,000 gram will lose 90%. I expect this Russia fall to be couple bucks a gram for larger material. Anyone paying $50+ gram for this will be an idiot just like those buying fakes on eBay. Please don't stoop to calling this a boring ordinary meteorite, it isn't! Call it anything you want, a nuclear-bomb blast magnitude common chondrite on the news 24/7 for last 5 days, Gimme Gimme gimme! Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: This is what makes meteorite collecting interesting. Some prefer falls and some prefer rare types. I am saying that historically, there is way more bang for the buck in a planetary piece than a fall unless it is a planetary fall. The last Martian fall maintains around 40% of the initial offering price whereas the last several chondrite falls only maintains about 10-20% of their initial offer price. For the most part, unless some dealer becomes desperate and charges way too much on his credit card, Planetary finds have the best record for maintaining price in the long run. With over a dozen falls a year, Ordinary Chondrite falls are literately a dime a dozen these days, excuse the pun. You can purchase very old witnessed falls at a bargain by comparison to more recent falls with asking prices much higher. I would prefer very old falls for investment purposes. I like planetary pieces above all else and to me, they will always be king. Adam From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every tv in the world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure thousands of stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is insane, already dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it. This Russian fall has excited the world, my sales are surging because of interest. I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every collection in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few people. I know where I am going to put my money. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an Ordinary Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed fall with thousands of pieces on the market.. A witnessed fall may very well lose 90% of its value within a month or two once its coolness factor wears off. The real story is in the event and once the limited amount of collectors get their hands on some, the demand drops off quickly. On the other hand, the way overpriced Martian meteorite will be appreciated much longer unless pairings and competition drag the price down. I always wait at least six months before investing in either one so that I am am not paying 4 to 10 times its settled value. Adam - Original Message - From: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com To: Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) I'll take the Martian if we are playing that game. Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote: Aw, invoking shrodinger's cat is cheating! :) Ok, in this universe, i'll take the Russian, in the other one the Martian.. lol -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy Ouzillou Sent: 19 February 2013 15:57 To: Michael Farmer; Matt
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I agree, Tissint was extremely underpriced. The evidence is that there is virtually none on the market a year later. All nice pieces vanished into collections. I will take Tissint over a Martian find any day of the week. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Graham Ensor graham.en...@gmail.com wrote: So where does this leave Tissint...one of the most undervalued meteorites of all time. If it had come down as it did , but in the USA or UK...what would have the price beenand yet what is the difference. Pricing at the moment has gone bonkers. Graham On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Adam, those who bought black beauty for $20,000 gram will lose 90%. I expect this Russia fall to be couple bucks a gram for larger material. Anyone paying $50+ gram for this will be an idiot just like those buying fakes on eBay. Please don't stoop to calling this a boring ordinary meteorite, it isn't! Call it anything you want, a nuclear-bomb blast magnitude common chondrite on the news 24/7 for last 5 days, Gimme Gimme gimme! Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: This is what makes meteorite collecting interesting. Some prefer falls and some prefer rare types. I am saying that historically, there is way more bang for the buck in a planetary piece than a fall unless it is a planetary fall. The last Martian fall maintains around 40% of the initial offering price whereas the last several chondrite falls only maintains about 10-20% of their initial offer price. For the most part, unless some dealer becomes desperate and charges way too much on his credit card, Planetary finds have the best record for maintaining price in the long run. With over a dozen falls a year, Ordinary Chondrite falls are literately a dime a dozen these days, excuse the pun. You can purchase very old witnessed falls at a bargain by comparison to more recent falls with asking prices much higher. I would prefer very old falls for investment purposes. I like planetary pieces above all else and to me, they will always be king. Adam From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every tv in the world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure thousands of stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is insane, already dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it. This Russian fall has excited the world, my sales are surging because of interest. I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every collection in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few people. I know where I am going to put my money. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an Ordinary Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed fall with thousands of pieces on the market.. A witnessed fall may very well lose 90% of its value within a month or two once its coolness factor wears off. The real story is in the event and once the limited amount of collectors get their hands on some, the demand drops off quickly. On the other hand, the way overpriced Martian meteorite will be appreciated much longer unless pairings and competition drag the price down. I always wait at least six months before investing in either one so that I am am not paying 4 to 10 times its settled value. Adam - Original Message - From: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com To: Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) I'll take the Martian if we are playing that game. Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote: Aw, invoking shrodinger's cat is cheating! :) Ok, in this universe, i'll take the Russian, in the other one the Martian.. lol -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy Ouzillou Sent: 19 February 2013 15:57 To: Michael Farmer; Matt Morgan Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Agreed, they are both cool. So if Schrodinger's cat can be dead and alive at the same time, I would ignore the rules and get both. Mendy Ouzillou
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A small piece sold for 157,000 per gram on Ebay. No reserve auction. Matt Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Who said this would be $500 gram? There is always idiotic numbers floating around. As a massive fall it will be a fair price I am sure. Anyway the free market will work, price too high, no sales. Black beauty was sold abs marketed for $20k gram. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: I am not calling it boring. I think it is very exciting but not $500.00 gram exciting. The event itself is astonishing but at $500.00 a gram, it is more than 10 times higher than Pultusk! In my opinion, Anybody asking $20,000.00 a gram for a Martian meteorite these days is being plan greedy. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Adam, those who bought black beauty for $20,000 gram will lose 90%. I expect this Russia fall to be couple bucks a gram for larger material. Anyone paying $50+ gram for this will be an idiot just like those buying fakes on eBay. Please don't stoop to calling this a boring ordinary meteorite, it isn't! Call it anything you want, a nuclear-bomb blast magnitude common chondrite on the news 24/7 for last 5 days, Gimme Gimme gimme! Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: This is what makes meteorite collecting interesting. Some prefer falls and some prefer rare types. I am saying that historically, there is way more bang for the buck in a planetary piece than a fall unless it is a planetary fall. The last Martian fall maintains around 40% of the initial offering price whereas the last several chondrite falls only maintains about 10-20% of their initial offer price. For the most part, unless some dealer becomes desperate and charges way too much on his credit card, Planetary finds have the best record for maintaining price in the long run. With over a dozen falls a year, Ordinary Chondrite falls are literately a dime a dozen these days, excuse the pun. You can purchase very old witnessed falls at a bargain by comparison to more recent falls with asking prices much higher. I would prefer very old falls for investment purposes. I like planetary pieces above all else and to me, they will always be king. Adam From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every tv in the world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure thousands of stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is insane, already dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it. This Russian fall has excited the world, my sales are surging because of interest. I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every collection in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few people. I know where I am going to put my money. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an Ordinary Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed fall with thousands of pieces on the market.. A witnessed fall may very well lose 90% of its value within a month or two once its coolness factor wears off. The real story is in the event and once the limited amount of collectors get their hands on some, the demand drops off quickly. On the other hand, the way overpriced Martian meteorite will be appreciated much longer unless pairings and competition drag the price down. I always wait at least six months before investing in either one so that I am am not paying 4 to 10 times its settled value. Adam - Original Message - From: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com To: Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) I'll take the Martian if we are playing that game. Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote: Aw, invoking shrodinger's cat is cheating! :) Ok, in this universe, i'll take the Russian, in the other one the Martian.. lol -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy Ouzillou
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Hey, I'm all for the free market. People make a choice and pay what they want at auction, but when they to sell it, see what is offered.. Michael Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: A small piece sold for 157,000 per gram on Ebay. No reserve auction. Matt Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Who said this would be $500 gram? There is always idiotic numbers floating around. As a massive fall it will be a fair price I am sure. Anyway the free market will work, price too high, no sales. Black beauty was sold abs marketed for $20k gram. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: I am not calling it boring. I think it is very exciting but not $500.00 gram exciting. The event itself is astonishing but at $500.00 a gram, it is more than 10 times higher than Pultusk! In my opinion, Anybody asking $20,000.00 a gram for a Martian meteorite these days is being plan greedy. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Adam, those who bought black beauty for $20,000 gram will lose 90%. I expect this Russia fall to be couple bucks a gram for larger material. Anyone paying $50+ gram for this will be an idiot just like those buying fakes on eBay. Please don't stoop to calling this a boring ordinary meteorite, it isn't! Call it anything you want, a nuclear-bomb blast magnitude common chondrite on the news 24/7 for last 5 days, Gimme Gimme gimme! Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: This is what makes meteorite collecting interesting. Some prefer falls and some prefer rare types. I am saying that historically, there is way more bang for the buck in a planetary piece than a fall unless it is a planetary fall. The last Martian fall maintains around 40% of the initial offering price whereas the last several chondrite falls only maintains about 10-20% of their initial offer price. For the most part, unless some dealer becomes desperate and charges way too much on his credit card, Planetary finds have the best record for maintaining price in the long run. With over a dozen falls a year, Ordinary Chondrite falls are literately a dime a dozen these days, excuse the pun. You can purchase very old witnessed falls at a bargain by comparison to more recent falls with asking prices much higher. I would prefer very old falls for investment purposes. I like planetary pieces above all else and to me, they will always be king. Adam From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every tv in the world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure thousands of stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is insane, already dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it. This Russian fall has excited the world, my sales are surging because of interest. I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every collection in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few people. I know where I am going to put my money. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an Ordinary Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed fall with thousands of pieces on the market.. A witnessed fall may very well lose 90% of its value within a month or two once its coolness factor wears off. The real story is in the event and once the limited amount of collectors get their hands on some, the demand drops off quickly. On the other hand, the way overpriced Martian meteorite will be appreciated much longer unless pairings and competition drag the price down. I always wait at least six months before investing in either one so that I am am not paying 4 to 10 times its settled value. Adam - Original Message - From: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com To: Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) I'll take the Martian if we are playing that game. Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote
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I agree with you Michael I saw a Tissint at the Ensisheim show last June. Just absolutely amazing... can't remember such another beautiful black color ! Beside that, I am a pallasite addict Michael B. -- From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:15 PM To: Graham Ensor graham.en...@gmail.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) I agree, Tissint was extremely underpriced. The evidence is that there is virtually none on the market a year later. All nice pieces vanished into collections. I will take Tissint over a Martian find any day of the week. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Graham Ensor graham.en...@gmail.com wrote: So where does this leave Tissint...one of the most undervalued meteorites of all time. If it had come down as it did , but in the USA or UK...what would have the price beenand yet what is the difference. Pricing at the moment has gone bonkers. Graham On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Adam, those who bought black beauty for $20,000 gram will lose 90%. I expect this Russia fall to be couple bucks a gram for larger material. Anyone paying $50+ gram for this will be an idiot just like those buying fakes on eBay. Please don't stoop to calling this a boring ordinary meteorite, it isn't! Call it anything you want, a nuclear-bomb blast magnitude common chondrite on the news 24/7 for last 5 days, Gimme Gimme gimme! Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: This is what makes meteorite collecting interesting. Some prefer falls and some prefer rare types. I am saying that historically, there is way more bang for the buck in a planetary piece than a fall unless it is a planetary fall. The last Martian fall maintains around 40% of the initial offering price whereas the last several chondrite falls only maintains about 10-20% of their initial offer price. For the most part, unless some dealer becomes desperate and charges way too much on his credit card, Planetary finds have the best record for maintaining price in the long run. With over a dozen falls a year, Ordinary Chondrite falls are literately a dime a dozen these days, excuse the pun. You can purchase very old witnessed falls at a bargain by comparison to more recent falls with asking prices much higher. I would prefer very old falls for investment purposes. I like planetary pieces above all else and to me, they will always be king. Adam From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every tv in the world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure thousands of stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is insane, already dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it. This Russian fall has excited the world, my sales are surging because of interest. I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every collection in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few people. I know where I am going to put my money. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an Ordinary Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed fall with thousands of pieces on the market.. A witnessed fall may very well lose 90% of its value within a month or two once its coolness factor wears off. The real story is in the event and once the limited amount of collectors get their hands on some, the demand drops off quickly. On the other hand, the way overpriced Martian meteorite will be appreciated much longer unless pairings and competition drag the price down. I always wait at least six months before investing in either one so that I am am not paying 4 to 10 times its settled value. Adam - Original Message - From: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com To: Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) I'll take the Martian if we are playing that game. Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote: Aw, invoking shrodinger's cat is cheating! :) Ok, in this universe, i'll take the Russian, in the other one the Martian.. lol -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
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Sounds good. Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Hey, I'm all for the free market. People make a choice and pay what they want at auction, but when they to sell it, see what is offered.. Michael Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: A small piece sold for 157,000 per gram on Ebay. No reserve auction. Matt Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Who said this would be $500 gram? There is always idiotic numbers floating around. As a massive fall it will be a fair price I am sure. Anyway the free market will work, price too high, no sales. Black beauty was sold abs marketed for $20k gram. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: I am not calling it boring. I think it is very exciting but not $500.00 gram exciting. The event itself is astonishing but at $500.00 a gram, it is more than 10 times higher than Pultusk! In my opinion, Anybody asking $20,000.00 a gram for a Martian meteorite these days is being plan greedy. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Adam, those who bought black beauty for $20,000 gram will lose 90%. I expect this Russia fall to be couple bucks a gram for larger material. Anyone paying $50+ gram for this will be an idiot just like those buying fakes on eBay. Please don't stoop to calling this a boring ordinary meteorite, it isn't! Call it anything you want, a nuclear-bomb blast magnitude common chondrite on the news 24/7 for last 5 days, Gimme Gimme gimme! Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: This is what makes meteorite collecting interesting. Some prefer falls and some prefer rare types. I am saying that historically, there is way more bang for the buck in a planetary piece than a fall unless it is a planetary fall. The last Martian fall maintains around 40% of the initial offering price whereas the last several chondrite falls only maintains about 10-20% of their initial offer price. For the most part, unless some dealer becomes desperate and charges way too much on his credit card, Planetary finds have the best record for maintaining price in the long run. With over a dozen falls a year, Ordinary Chondrite falls are literately a dime a dozen these days, excuse the pun. You can purchase very old witnessed falls at a bargain by comparison to more recent falls with asking prices much higher. I would prefer very old falls for investment purposes. I like planetary pieces above all else and to me, they will always be king. Adam From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every tv in the world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure thousands of stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is insane, already dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it. This Russian fall has excited the world, my sales are surging because of interest. I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every collection in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few people. I know where I am going to put my money. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an Ordinary Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed fall with thousands of pieces on the market.. A witnessed fall may very well lose 90% of its value within a month or two once its coolness factor wears off. The real story is in the event and once the limited amount of collectors get their hands on some, the demand drops off quickly. On the other hand, the way overpriced Martian meteorite will be appreciated much longer unless pairings and competition drag the price down. I always wait at least six months before investing in either one so that I am am not paying 4 to 10 times its settled value. Adam - Original Message - From: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com To: Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) I'll take the Martian if we are playing that game
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Sign me up for a kilo! Paul Swartz I expect this Russia fall to be couple bucks a gram for larger material. Michael Farmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Tissint is a perfect example of what can go wrong if a dealer or two get in too deep with credit cards or don't truly know the market. They can't handle the pressure, panic and then dump at the first sign of competition. If they would have priced it correctly from the beginning, they would have avoided a lot of the turmoil that centers around falls. Compound the problem with more and more supply coming onto the Moroccan market from multiple sources and collectors lose the ability to determine TAW undermining value and confidence. A few fortunate and smart major collectors put out the money and took advantage of rookie planetary dealers' mistakes. If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen and let others with more experience prevail! Know your market and do not let emotion or hype influence your decisions to a great degree! Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Graham Ensor graham.en...@gmail.com Cc: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com; Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) I agree, Tissint was extremely underpriced. The evidence is that there is virtually none on the market a year later. All nice pieces vanished into collections. I will take Tissint over a Martian find any day of the week. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Graham Ensor graham.en...@gmail.com wrote: So where does this leave Tissint...one of the most undervalued meteorites of all time. If it had come down as it did , but in the USA or UK...what would have the price beenand yet what is the difference. Pricing at the moment has gone bonkers. Graham On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Adam, those who bought black beauty for $20,000 gram will lose 90%. I expect this Russia fall to be couple bucks a gram for larger material. Anyone paying $50+ gram for this will be an idiot just like those buying fakes on eBay. Please don't stoop to calling this a boring ordinary meteorite, it isn't! Call it anything you want, a nuclear-bomb blast magnitude common chondrite on the news 24/7 for last 5 days, Gimme Gimme gimme! Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: This is what makes meteorite collecting interesting. Some prefer falls and some prefer rare types. I am saying that historically, there is way more bang for the buck in a planetary piece than a fall unless it is a planetary fall. The last Martian fall maintains around 40% of the initial offering price whereas the last several chondrite falls only maintains about 10-20% of their initial offer price. For the most part, unless some dealer becomes desperate and charges way too much on his credit card, Planetary finds have the best record for maintaining price in the long run. With over a dozen falls a year, Ordinary Chondrite falls are literately a dime a dozen these days, excuse the pun. You can purchase very old witnessed falls at a bargain by comparison to more recent falls with asking prices much higher. I would prefer very old falls for investment purposes. I like planetary pieces above all else and to me, they will always be king. Adam From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every tv in the world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure thousands of stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is insane, already dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it. This Russian fall has excited the world, my sales are surging because of interest. I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every collection in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few people. I know where I am going to put my money. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an Ordinary Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed fall with thousands of pieces on the market.. A witnessed fall may very well lose 90% of its value within a month or two once its coolness factor wears off. The real story is in the event and once the limited amount of collectors get their hands on some, the demand drops off quickly. On the other hand, the way overpriced Martian meteorite will be appreciated much longer unless pairings and competition drag the price down. I always wait at least six months
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Completely agree, my partners as I bought over a million dollars in Tissint in less than a month. Great meteorite, great price. There are no large pieces on the market today. That tells me it was too cheap. I am happy to have a nice hoard of it for the future. I will try to do the same with the Russian fall. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: Tissint is a perfect example of what can go wrong if a dealer or two get in too deep with credit cards or don't truly know the market. They can't handle the pressure, panic and then dump at the first sign of competition. If they would have priced it correctly from the beginning, they would have avoided a lot of the turmoil that centers around falls. Compound the problem with more and more supply coming onto the Moroccan market from multiple sources and collectors lose the ability to determine TAW undermining value and confidence. A few fortunate and smart major collectors put out the money and took advantage of rookie planetary dealers' mistakes. If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen and let others with more experience prevail! Know your market and do not let emotion or hype influence your decisions to a great degree! Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Graham Ensor graham.en...@gmail.com Cc: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com; Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) I agree, Tissint was extremely underpriced. The evidence is that there is virtually none on the market a year later. All nice pieces vanished into collections. I will take Tissint over a Martian find any day of the week. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Graham Ensor graham.en...@gmail.com wrote: So where does this leave Tissint...one of the most undervalued meteorites of all time. If it had come down as it did , but in the USA or UK...what would have the price beenand yet what is the difference. Pricing at the moment has gone bonkers. Graham On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Adam, those who bought black beauty for $20,000 gram will lose 90%. I expect this Russia fall to be couple bucks a gram for larger material. Anyone paying $50+ gram for this will be an idiot just like those buying fakes on eBay. Please don't stoop to calling this a boring ordinary meteorite, it isn't! Call it anything you want, a nuclear-bomb blast magnitude common chondrite on the news 24/7 for last 5 days, Gimme Gimme gimme! Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: This is what makes meteorite collecting interesting. Some prefer falls and some prefer rare types. I am saying that historically, there is way more bang for the buck in a planetary piece than a fall unless it is a planetary fall. The last Martian fall maintains around 40% of the initial offering price whereas the last several chondrite falls only maintains about 10-20% of their initial offer price. For the most part, unless some dealer becomes desperate and charges way too much on his credit card, Planetary finds have the best record for maintaining price in the long run. With over a dozen falls a year, Ordinary Chondrite falls are literately a dime a dozen these days, excuse the pun. You can purchase very old witnessed falls at a bargain by comparison to more recent falls with asking prices much higher. I would prefer very old falls for investment purposes. I like planetary pieces above all else and to me, they will always be king. Adam From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every tv in the world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure thousands of stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is insane, already dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it. This Russian fall has excited the world, my sales are surging because of interest. I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every collection in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few people. I know where I am going to put my money. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an Ordinary Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed fall
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Mike when do plan on heading to Russia? Don Merchant - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Completely agree, my partners as I bought over a million dollars in Tissint in less than a month. Great meteorite, great price. There are no large pieces on the market today. That tells me it was too cheap. I am happy to have a nice hoard of it for the future. I will try to do the same with the Russian fall. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: Tissint is a perfect example of what can go wrong if a dealer or two get in too deep with credit cards or don't truly know the market. They can't handle the pressure, panic and then dump at the first sign of competition. If they would have priced it correctly from the beginning, they would have avoided a lot of the turmoil that centers around falls. Compound the problem with more and more supply coming onto the Moroccan market from multiple sources and collectors lose the ability to determine TAW undermining value and confidence. A few fortunate and smart major collectors put out the money and took advantage of rookie planetary dealers' mistakes. If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen and let others with more experience prevail! Know your market and do not let emotion or hype influence your decisions to a great degree! Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Graham Ensor graham.en...@gmail.com Cc: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com; Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) I agree, Tissint was extremely underpriced. The evidence is that there is virtually none on the market a year later. All nice pieces vanished into collections. I will take Tissint over a Martian find any day of the week. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Graham Ensor graham.en...@gmail.com wrote: So where does this leave Tissint...one of the most undervalued meteorites of all time. If it had come down as it did , but in the USA or UK...what would have the price beenand yet what is the difference. Pricing at the moment has gone bonkers. Graham On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Adam, those who bought black beauty for $20,000 gram will lose 90%. I expect this Russia fall to be couple bucks a gram for larger material. Anyone paying $50+ gram for this will be an idiot just like those buying fakes on eBay. Please don't stoop to calling this a boring ordinary meteorite, it isn't! Call it anything you want, a nuclear-bomb blast magnitude common chondrite on the news 24/7 for last 5 days, Gimme Gimme gimme! Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: This is what makes meteorite collecting interesting. Some prefer falls and some prefer rare types. I am saying that historically, there is way more bang for the buck in a planetary piece than a fall unless it is a planetary fall. The last Martian fall maintains around 40% of the initial offering price whereas the last several chondrite falls only maintains about 10-20% of their initial offer price. For the most part, unless some dealer becomes desperate and charges way too much on his credit card, Planetary finds have the best record for maintaining price in the long run. With over a dozen falls a year, Ordinary Chondrite falls are literately a dime a dozen these days, excuse the pun. You can purchase very old witnessed falls at a bargain by comparison to more recent falls with asking prices much higher. I would prefer very old falls for investment purposes. I like planetary pieces above all else and to me, they will always be king. Adam From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every tv in the world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure thousands of stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is insane, already dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it. This Russian fall has excited the world, my sales are surging because of interest. I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every collection in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few people. I know where I am going to put my money. Michael
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Rookie Planetary Dealers... You hit the nail on the head Adam. Jim Strope 421 4th Street Glen Dale, WV. 26038 Sent from my iPad On Feb 19, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: Tissint is a perfect example of what can go wrong if a dealer or two get in too deep with credit cards or don't truly know the market. They can't handle the pressure, panic and then dump at the first sign of competition. If they would have priced it correctly from the beginning, they would have avoided a lot of the turmoil that centers around falls. Compound the problem with more and more supply coming onto the Moroccan market from multiple sources and collectors lose the ability to determine TAW undermining value and confidence. A few fortunate and smart major collectors put out the money and took advantage of rookie planetary dealers' mistakes. If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen and let others with more experience prevail! Know your market and do not let emotion or hype influence your decisions to a great degree! Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Graham Ensor graham.en...@gmail.com Cc: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com; Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) I agree, Tissint was extremely underpriced. The evidence is that there is virtually none on the market a year later. All nice pieces vanished into collections. I will take Tissint over a Martian find any day of the week. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Graham Ensor graham.en...@gmail.com wrote: So where does this leave Tissint...one of the most undervalued meteorites of all time. If it had come down as it did , but in the USA or UK...what would have the price beenand yet what is the difference. Pricing at the moment has gone bonkers. Graham On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Adam, those who bought black beauty for $20,000 gram will lose 90%. I expect this Russia fall to be couple bucks a gram for larger material. Anyone paying $50+ gram for this will be an idiot just like those buying fakes on eBay. Please don't stoop to calling this a boring ordinary meteorite, it isn't! Call it anything you want, a nuclear-bomb blast magnitude common chondrite on the news 24/7 for last 5 days, Gimme Gimme gimme! Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: This is what makes meteorite collecting interesting. Some prefer falls and some prefer rare types. I am saying that historically, there is way more bang for the buck in a planetary piece than a fall unless it is a planetary fall. The last Martian fall maintains around 40% of the initial offering price whereas the last several chondrite falls only maintains about 10-20% of their initial offer price. For the most part, unless some dealer becomes desperate and charges way too much on his credit card, Planetary finds have the best record for maintaining price in the long run. With over a dozen falls a year, Ordinary Chondrite falls are literately a dime a dozen these days, excuse the pun. You can purchase very old witnessed falls at a bargain by comparison to more recent falls with asking prices much higher. I would prefer very old falls for investment purposes. I like planetary pieces above all else and to me, they will always be king. Adam From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one) Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every tv in the world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure thousands of stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is insane, already dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it. This Russian fall has excited the world, my sales are surging because of interest. I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every collection in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few people. I know where I am going to put my money. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an Ordinary Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed fall with thousands of pieces on the market.. A witnessed fall may very well lose 90% of its value within a month or two once its coolness factor wears off. The real story is in the event and once the limited
