[meteorite-list] Campo Del Cielo
Hi List, Hope everyone had a great & wonderful Thanksgiving and ate as much as possible ..I have a problem here, I have a "Giant Campo", here it weighs about 171 to 176 lbs., and is basically way too much meteorite for me these days (hard to move around) anyone interested in trades or making a decent offer contact me off-list to discuss a proposal and transport. I would like a Campo, but only one around 10/20 lbs range, even smaller would be fine. Here's a link to my store to see this monster, http://www.stores.ebay.com/exoticcollectables Thanks, Tim Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now
[meteorite-list] campo del cielo
if anybody is intrested,there is a place at the Tucson gem and mineral show that is selling campo del cielo meteorites for 17.50 a pound. its at the Tucson electric park,first tent on the left. they have a very thin crust and the metal can be seen in places. pretty good deal I thought. (or is it) there was a 70 pounder a 33 pounder and another I never weighed maybe 40 or 50 pounds good hunting, Rex P.S. I found this while researching it. We remind that according to law, all meteoritesproceeding from CAMPO DEL CIELO are consideredproperty of the Argentine republic. Consequently, itis absolutely forbidden to take them out of thecountry. The infringement of this dispositionimplies, according to international treaties in force,that Argentina has the right to confiscate any piececoming from the mentioned field, in whichever countryit may be found, for subsequent transfer to its placeof origin, reserving the right to take thecorresponding legal actions.GOBERNACION DE LA PROVINCIA DEL CHACOPODER JUDICIALDELITOS FEDERALESREPUBLICA ARGENTINA
[meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo
Greetings meteorite enthusiasts, Last Sunday I took my wife shopping to the Arizona Mills shopping mall in Chandler, AZ (this is south of Phoenix). I came across a store called Black Market Rock and Mineral, so while the wife was clothes shopping, I went in to look around. In one case they had some iron meteorites which were tagged "Campo del Cielo." The smaller meteorites on the upper shelf were all shiny from some sort of lacquer coating. I thought this was a very odd way to sell irons. Maybe it looks good for tourists. The lower shelf had much larger meteorites. I was able to read the price on one which was about the size of a grapefruit. The were asking $635.00. I thought this to be a little pricey and the entire lot of meteorites, one big rip off. What does the list think? Your comments are quite welcome. Bob __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Campo Del Cielo iron
Hi List, I was wondering if anyone has a campo del cielo individual that I could buy. I cant afford much at the moment however I could probably do up to $50.Clear Skies & Happy Hunting, Jay Haynes IMCA Member #:6905 www.geocities.com/cdnastronomer/meteorite.html Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites
Hello, In agreement with the expressed by Mr. Michael Farmer, in a lot of meteorites from Campo del Cielo he found a new chondrite named Pitino. On this matter I have two observations: 1) There is no city or geographic reference with that name in Argentina. In that case the proposed name for the meteorite will be Campo del Cielo II. 2) As the meteorite is from Campo del Cielo, the proprietary is the Goverment of Argentina. So is forbidden any people has a fragment of it. I also remember a meteorite of 6 to 8 tons was stolen from Campo del Cielo. You can see the picture in this page http://www.diarionorte.com/2003/mayo/030504/interior.htm Please for any information on this meteorite call to: Dr, Carlos Clauter, Judge of the cause Las Heras 45 (3720) Charata, Chaco, Argentina Telefax ++543731 420004 Diario Norte [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Director) Pellegrini 144 (3500) Resistencia, Chaco, Argentina Policía del Chaco ++ 543722 463103 (Jefatura) ++ 543722 434127 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dept. Judicial) Ministro de Gobierno Sr. Roy Nikisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ministerio de Gobierno y Justicia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores ++5411 48197000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for your cooperation. Dr. Miguel A. del Buono Universidad Nacional del Nordeste Resistencia Chaco - Argentina _ Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: http://messenger.yupimsn.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo this?
hello http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6525378605&rd=1 many strange for a campo del cielo Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Nuovo Yahoo! Messenger: E' molto più divertente: Audibles, Avatar, Webcam, Giochi, Rubrica Scaricalo ora! http://it.messenger.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites
Hello List, I am confused, again! This letter says; "1) There is no city or geographic reference with that name in Argentina. In that case the proposed name for the meteorite will be Campo del Cielo II." Now from this, I would have to guess that if the meteorite is called "Pitino" And there is no Pitino in Argentina, that this meteorite must not be from Argentina? And; "2) As the meteorite is from Campo del Cielo, the proprietary is the Goverment of Argentina. So is forbidden any people has a fragment of it." It would stand to reason that if this meteorite is not from Argintina then Argintina would not be the proprietary of this meteorite sence it is not from Argintina? Plese correct me if I am wrong on this, am I missing something? Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 P.S. ." So is forbidden any people has a fragment of it." ? - Original Message - From: Miguel Angel del Buono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:22 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites > Hello, > > In agreement with the expressed by Mr. Michael Farmer, in a lot of > meteorites from Campo del Cielo he found a new chondrite named Pitino. On > this matter I have two observations: > 1) There is no city or geographic reference with that name in Argentina. In > that case the proposed name for the meteorite will be Campo del Cielo II. > 2) As the meteorite is from Campo del Cielo, the proprietary is the > Goverment of Argentina. So is forbidden any people has a fragment of it. > > I also remember a meteorite of 6 to 8 tons was stolen from Campo del Cielo. > You can see the picture in this page > http://www.diarionorte.com/2003/mayo/030504/interior.htm > Please for any information on this meteorite call to: > > Dr, Carlos Clauter, Judge of the cause > Las Heras 45 > (3720) Charata, Chaco, Argentina > Telefax ++543731 420004 > > Diario Norte > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Director) > Pellegrini 144 > (3500) Resistencia, Chaco, Argentina > > Policía del Chaco > ++ 543722 463103 (Jefatura) > ++ 543722 434127 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dept. Judicial) > > Ministro de Gobierno > Sr. Roy Nikisch > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Ministerio de Gobierno y Justicia > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores > ++5411 48197000 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank you for your cooperation. > > Dr. Miguel A. del Buono > Universidad Nacional del Nordeste > Resistencia - Chaco - Argentina > > _ > Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: > http://messenger.yupimsn.com/ > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Wow, judge, juror, head of the Meteoritical Society, and God? Who died and made you the head honcho? This is my meteorite, it was legally aquired in the United States. Chaco or yourself have no claim to it. O te puedo escribir en espanol si prefieres? The meteorite is named Pitino, there is a place called Pitino, or the Meteoritical Society would not have named it that. You seem to be the same guy who harrased me two years ago about Campos. There are thousands of kilograms of them, so go dig them up or shut up. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: "Miguel Angel del Buono" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:22 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites > Hello, > > In agreement with the expressed by Mr. Michael Farmer, in a lot of > meteorites from Campo del Cielo he found a new chondrite named Pitino. On > this matter I have two observations: > 1) There is no city or geographic reference with that name in Argentina. In > that case the proposed name for the meteorite will be Campo del Cielo II. > 2) As the meteorite is from Campo del Cielo, the proprietary is the > Goverment of Argentina. So is forbidden any people has a fragment of it. > > I also remember a meteorite of 6 to 8 tons was stolen from Campo del Cielo. > You can see the picture in this page > http://www.diarionorte.com/2003/mayo/030504/interior.htm > Please for any information on this meteorite call to: > > Dr, Carlos Clauter, Judge of the cause > Las Heras 45 > (3720) Charata, Chaco, Argentina > Telefax ++543731 420004 > > Diario Norte > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Director) > Pellegrini 144 > (3500) Resistencia, Chaco, Argentina > > Policía del Chaco > ++ 543722 463103 (Jefatura) > ++ 543722 434127 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dept. Judicial) > > Ministro de Gobierno > Sr. Roy Nikisch > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Ministerio de Gobierno y Justicia > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores > ++5411 48197000 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank you for your cooperation. > > Dr. Miguel A. del Buono > Universidad Nacional del Nordeste > Resistencia - Chaco - Argentina > > _ > Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: > http://messenger.yupimsn.com/ > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hey Mike, Don't worry too much about the name. Heck, it might just as well have been named Mike's Chondrite, which would be consistent with the NomCom's acceptance of the name Joel's Iron from Chile. David > There is no city or geographic reference with that name in Argentina. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hello Again list, I am still confused about this line; "So is forbidden any people has a fragment of it." Well then, a thin section, endcut, part slice or full slice is OK, just not a fragment? Please keep this in mind when buying this meteorite! Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: Miguel Angel del Buono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:22 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites > Hello, > > In agreement with the expressed by Mr. Michael Farmer, in a lot of > meteorites from Campo del Cielo he found a new chondrite named Pitino. On > this matter I have two observations: > 1) There is no city or geographic reference with that name in Argentina. In > that case the proposed name for the meteorite will be Campo del Cielo II. > 2) As the meteorite is from Campo del Cielo, the proprietary is the > Goverment of Argentina. So is forbidden any people has a fragment of it. > > I also remember a meteorite of 6 to 8 tons was stolen from Campo del Cielo. > You can see the picture in this page > http://www.diarionorte.com/2003/mayo/030504/interior.htm > Please for any information on this meteorite call to: > > Dr, Carlos Clauter, Judge of the cause > Las Heras 45 > (3720) Charata, Chaco, Argentina > Telefax ++543731 420004 > > Diario Norte > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Director) > Pellegrini 144 > (3500) Resistencia, Chaco, Argentina > > Policía del Chaco > ++ 543722 463103 (Jefatura) > ++ 543722 434127 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dept. Judicial) > > Ministro de Gobierno > Sr. Roy Nikisch > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Ministerio de Gobierno y Justicia > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores > ++5411 48197000 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank you for your cooperation. > > Dr. Miguel A. del Buono > Universidad Nacional del Nordeste > Resistencia - Chaco - Argentina > > _ > Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: > http://messenger.yupimsn.com/ > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi List, On hindsight, it seems Joel's Iron was never submitted to the NomCom since it was found in 1858, but it was studied by Buchwald, and later by Wasson & Canut de Bon, which establishes this name as authoritative just the same. David __ Hey Mike, Don't worry too much about the name. Heck, it might just as well have been named Mike's Chondrite, which would be consistent with the NomCom's acceptance of the name Joel's Iron from Chile. David > There is no city or geographic reference with that name in Argentina. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites
Sorry to disappoint you, but Joel's Iron was named long before there was a NomCom. This name would indeed violate the modern Guidelines for Meteorite Nomenclature had it been found recently. There are other meteorites with similar "grandfathered" names, e.g.. Lutschaunig's Stone, Holland's Store, and my favorite, Slaghek's Iron. jeff At 06:27 PM 6/13/2003 -0400, David Weir wrote: Hey Mike, Don't worry too much about the name. Heck, it might just as well have been named Mike's Chondrite, which would be consistent with the NomCom's acceptance of the name Joel's Iron from Chile. David > There is no city or geographic reference with that name in Argentina. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman Chair, Meteorite Nomenclature Committee (Meteoritical Society) US Geological Survey 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA Phone: (703) 648-6184 fax: (703) 648-6383 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites
Good evening Jeff, and All, Just wondered, if I owned a funeral parlor and a meteorite crashed into it, might the meteorite be given the name "Martyn's Mortuary"? LOL Have a great evening Ya'll. Paul In a message dated 6/13/2003 7:15:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry to disappoint you, but Joel's Iron was named long before there was a NomCom. This name would indeed violate the modern Guidelines for Meteorite Nomenclature had it been found recently. There are other meteorites with similar "grandfathered" names, e.g.. Lutschaunig's Stone, Holland's Store, and my favorite, Slaghek's Iron. jeff
Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites
Jeff said... "There are other meteorites with > similar "grandfathered" names, e.g.. Lutschaunig's > Stone, Holland's Store, > and my favorite, Slaghek's Iron." Now comes Big Steve`s post about if there are any of these meteorites out there for sale or trade??? Just a little friendly tease there Steve :) Dave __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites
Mike, The Meteoritical Society is not an authority on geographic names. The NomCom does the best it can in approving names for meteorites based on geographic names, but mistakes do get made. We often have to rely on people with local knowledge of the find area (or the submitter of the meteorite to us), and they are not always fully reliable sources. Our job is to provide a label for each meteorite. We have done that. Now, the name of the meteorite is authoritative. Whether Pitino is a proper place-name remains open for discussion. Jeff At 02:48 PM 6/13/2003 -0700, you wrote: Wow, judge, juror, head of the Meteoritical Society, and God? Who died and made you the head honcho? This is my meteorite, it was legally aquired in the United States. Chaco or yourself have no claim to it. O te puedo escribir en espanol si prefieres? The meteorite is named Pitino, there is a place called Pitino, or the Meteoritical Society would not have named it that. You seem to be the same guy who harrased me two years ago about Campos. There are thousands of kilograms of them, so go dig them up or shut up. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: "Miguel Angel del Buono" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:22 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites > Hello, > > In agreement with the expressed by Mr. Michael Farmer, in a lot of > meteorites from Campo del Cielo he found a new chondrite named Pitino. On > this matter I have two observations: > 1) There is no city or geographic reference with that name in Argentina. In > that case the proposed name for the meteorite will be Campo del Cielo II. > 2) As the meteorite is from Campo del Cielo, the proprietary is the > Goverment of Argentina. So is forbidden any people has a fragment of it. > > I also remember a meteorite of 6 to 8 tons was stolen from Campo del Cielo. > You can see the picture in this page > http://www.diarionorte.com/2003/mayo/030504/interior.htm > Please for any information on this meteorite call to: > > Dr, Carlos Clauter, Judge of the cause > Las Heras 45 > (3720) Charata, Chaco, Argentina > Telefax ++543731 420004 > > Diario Norte > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Director) > Pellegrini 144 > (3500) Resistencia, Chaco, Argentina > > Policía del Chaco > ++ 543722 463103 (Jefatura) > ++ 543722 434127 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dept. Judicial) > > Ministro de Gobierno > Sr. Roy Nikisch > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Ministerio de Gobierno y Justicia > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores > ++5411 48197000 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank you for your cooperation. > > Dr. Miguel A. del Buono > Universidad Nacional del Nordeste > Resistencia - Chaco - Argentina > > _ > Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: > http://messenger.yupimsn.com/ > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman Chair, Meteorite Nomenclature Committee (Meteoritical Society) US Geological Survey 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA Phone: (703) 648-6184 fax: (703) 648-6383 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Fw: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites
- Original Message - From: "rockhoundm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jeff Grossman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites > Hi Michael, Jeff and all > > Since I read the first e-mail I've been searching and there is NO "Pitino" > locality or place in Santiago del Estero province, neither in any other part > of Argentina. So I agree that the name of this meteorite should be Campo del > Cielo II (or Campo del Cielo b) > > About the legality for sale there should be no problem and here is why: > The Campo del Cielo strewn field is about 95% in Chaco province and 5% in > Santiago del Estero. According to Michael's description, this specimen was > found in Santiago del Estero province. > Campo del Cielo meteorites are forbidden for sale ONLY if they are found in > Chaco as there is a Provincial (not national) law that protect Chaco's > meteorites. > > So Micheal go ahead and sale it but I'm pretty sure that you will have to > change the name in the future. > > Eduardo > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jeff Grossman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:11 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites > > > Mike, > > The Meteoritical Society is not an authority on geographic names. The > NomCom does the best it can in approving names for meteorites based on > geographic names, but mistakes do get made. We often have to rely on > people with local knowledge of the find area (or the submitter of the > meteorite to us), and they are not always fully reliable sources. > > Our job is to provide a label for each meteorite. We have done that. Now, > the name of the meteorite is authoritative. Whether Pitino is a proper > place-name remains open for discussion. > > Jeff > > At 02:48 PM 6/13/2003 -0700, you wrote: > >Wow, judge, juror, head of the Meteoritical Society, and God? > >Who died and made you the head honcho? This is my meteorite, it was legally > >aquired in the United States. Chaco or yourself have no claim to it. > >O te puedo escribir en espanol si prefieres? > >The meteorite is named Pitino, there is a place called Pitino, or the > >Meteoritical Society would not have named it that. You seem to be the same > >guy who harrased me two years ago about Campos. There are thousands of > >kilograms of them, so go dig them up or shut up. > >Mike Farmer > >- Original Message - > >From: "Miguel Angel del Buono" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:22 AM > >Subject: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > In agreement with the expressed by Mr. Michael Farmer, in a lot of > > > meteorites from Campo del Cielo he found a new chondrite named Pitino. > On > > > this matter I have two observations: > > > 1) There is no city or geographic reference with that name in Argentina. > >In > > > that case the proposed name for the meteorite will be Campo del Cielo > II. > > > 2) As the meteorite is from Campo del Cielo, the proprietary is the > > > Goverment of Argentina. So is forbidden any people has a fragment of it. > > > > > > I also remember a meteorite of 6 to 8 tons was stolen from Campo del > >Cielo. > > > You can see the picture in this page > > > http://www.diarionorte.com/2003/mayo/030504/interior.htm > > > Please for any information on this meteorite call to: > > > > > > Dr, Carlos Clauter, Judge of the cause > > > Las Heras 45 > > > (3720) Charata, Chaco, Argentina > > > Telefax ++543731 420004 > > > > > > Diario Norte > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Director) > > > Pellegrini 144 > > > (3500) Resistencia, Chaco, Argentina > > > > > > Policía del Chaco > > > ++ 543722 463103 (Jefatura) > > > ++ 543722 434127 > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dept. Judicial) > > > > > > Ministro de Gobierno > > > Sr. Roy Nikisch > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Ministerio de Gobierno y Justicia > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores > > > ++5411 48197000 > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Thank you for your cooperation. > >
Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites
Dr. Buono, I have to agree that your plea for assistance is justified. Thieves that stole a 6,000 kilo meteorite (13.2 tons) on April9/10 and left a concrete replica are no ordinary thieves! The Argentine police are probably no match for this type of criminal. http://home.earthlink.net/~magellon/_images/dizzy.jpg The first thing is to look for is a disguised meteorite traveling out of the country! (Distribute pictures of the concrete replica) Have any pickup trucks crossed the border with unusually large produce? A gigantic ear of corn or humongus squash or monster cucumber, etc.? Or they might try a sign saying "13 ton ordinary rock." (Or perhaps the concrete replica is just a shell covering the real meteorite until the 'heat dies down') WOW! (perhaps it would be a good idea to check on large purchases of concrete made before the theft) I can understand the memory of this plagues you, because it is so embarrassing but you are right to ask for help. You should not feel ashamed that your government cares so little that they leave these national treasures lying unprotected in a field. Do not feel bad that your university did not take the initiative to get permission to display this meteorite in a protective environment. I understand that it IS easier to blame others who are actually protecting and enhancing the meteoritic community rather than yourself. UPDATE: This just in - a pict of three suspicious characters: http://home.earthlink.net/~magellon/_images/loco.jpg Do these guys look like persons you've seen recently sincerely, ken newton Miguel Angel del Buono wrote: > > I also remember a meteorite of 6 to 8 tons was stolen from Campo del Cielo. > You can see the picture in this page > http://www.diarionorte.com/2003/mayo/030504/interior.htm > Thank you for your cooperation. > > Dr. Miguel A. del Buono > Universidad Nacional del Nordeste > Resistencia Chaco - Argentina > > _ > Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: > http://messenger.yupimsn.com/ > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites
Dang, Ken, initially I thought your post was for real. Then I saw the first picture. Pretty funny (and sad at the same time). -Walter -- www.branchmeteorites.com - Original Message - From: "magellon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Miguel Angel del Buono" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites > Dr. Buono, > I have to agree that your plea for assistance is justified. > Thieves that stole a 6,000 kilo meteorite (13.2 tons) on April9/10 and > left a concrete replica are no ordinary thieves! > The Argentine police are probably no match for this type of criminal. > http://home.earthlink.net/~magellon/_images/dizzy.jpg > The first thing is to look for is a disguised meteorite traveling out of > the country! > (Distribute pictures of the concrete replica) > Have any pickup trucks crossed the border with unusually large produce? > A gigantic ear of corn or humongus squash or monster cucumber, etc.? > Or they might try a sign saying "13 ton ordinary rock." > (Or perhaps the concrete replica is just a shell covering the real > meteorite until the 'heat dies down') WOW! > (perhaps it would be a good idea to check on large purchases of concrete > made before the theft) > I can understand the memory of this plagues you, because it is so > embarrassing but you are right to ask for help. > You should not feel ashamed that your government cares so little that > they leave these national treasures lying unprotected in a field. > Do not feel bad that your university did not take the initiative to get > permission to display this meteorite in a protective environment. > I understand that it IS easier to blame others who are actually > protecting and enhancing the meteoritic community rather than yourself. > UPDATE: This just in - a pict of three suspicious characters: > http://home.earthlink.net/~magellon/_images/loco.jpg > Do these guys look like persons you've seen recently > sincerely, > ken newton > > > > Miguel Angel del Buono wrote: > > > > I also remember a meteorite of 6 to 8 tons was stolen from Campo del Cielo. > > You can see the picture in this page > > http://www.diarionorte.com/2003/mayo/030504/interior.htm > > > Thank you for your cooperation. > > > > Dr. Miguel A. del Buono > > Universidad Nacional del Nordeste > > Resistencia - Chaco - Argentina > > > > _ > > Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: > > http://messenger.yupimsn.com/ > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites
> Walter Branch wrote: > Pretty funny (and sad at the same time). It Soitenly Is! ken Walter Branch wrote: > > Dang, Ken, initially I thought your post was for real. > > Then I saw the first picture. > > Pretty funny (and sad at the same time). > > -Walter > > -- > www.branchmeteorites.com > > - Original Message - > From: "magellon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Miguel Angel del Buono" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 7:08 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo meteorites > > > Dr. Buono, > > I have to agree that your plea for assistance is justified. > > Thieves that stole a 6,000 kilo meteorite (13.2 tons) on April9/10 and > > left a concrete replica are no ordinary thieves! > > The Argentine police are probably no match for this type of criminal. > > http://home.earthlink.net/~magellon/_images/dizzy.jpg > > The first thing is to look for is a disguised meteorite traveling out of > > the country! > > (Distribute pictures of the concrete replica) > > Have any pickup trucks crossed the border with unusually large produce? > > A gigantic ear of corn or humongus squash or monster cucumber, etc.? > > Or they might try a sign saying "13 ton ordinary rock." > > (Or perhaps the concrete replica is just a shell covering the real > > meteorite until the 'heat dies down') WOW! > > (perhaps it would be a good idea to check on large purchases of concrete > > made before the theft) > > I can understand the memory of this plagues you, because it is so > > embarrassing but you are right to ask for help. > > You should not feel ashamed that your government cares so little that > > they leave these national treasures lying unprotected in a field. > > Do not feel bad that your university did not take the initiative to get > > permission to display this meteorite in a protective environment. > > I understand that it IS easier to blame others who are actually > > protecting and enhancing the meteoritic community rather than yourself. > > UPDATE: This just in - a pict of three suspicious characters: > > http://home.earthlink.net/~magellon/_images/loco.jpg > > Do these guys look like persons you've seen recently > > sincerely, > > ken newton > > > > > > > > Miguel Angel del Buono wrote: > > > > > > I also remember a meteorite of 6 to 8 tons was stolen from Campo del > Cielo. > > > You can see the picture in this page > > > http://www.diarionorte.com/2003/mayo/030504/interior.htm > > > > > Thank you for your cooperation. > > > > > > Dr. Miguel A. del Buono > > > Universidad Nacional del Nordeste > > > Resistencia - Chaco - Argentina > > > > > > _ > > > Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: > > > http://messenger.yupimsn.com/ > > > > > > __ > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo recovered weight
Dear list, I have been reading post on the list for a few months now. This is my first intervention, I hope some of you will be able to help out. I am working on a virtual exhibition concerning meteorites for the Montreal Planetarium, Canada. One of the sections of the site will present some famous meteorites including Campo del Cielo. I am trying to evaluate the total recovered weight for this meteorite. In Gradys catalogue (page 126), the addition of the numerous masses give a total of 45 tonnes (approximately). The 37 tonnes that Robert Haag tried to buy with no success in 1990 is not cited. Would the real total be 82 tonnes? If so, Camp del Cielo would be the heaviest iron meteorite recovered (in total mass)... Thank you for your help and excuse my English, it is a second language. Sara Arsenault Museologist Planetarium de Montreal _ Balayez vos courriels entrants et sortants et les pièces jointes et contribuez à éliminer les virus destructeurs susceptibles dy être intégrés. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=fr-ca&page=features/virus Commencez dès maintenant à profiter de tous les avantages de MSN Premium et obtenez les deux premiers mois GRATUITS*. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Campo Del Cielo With Tail AD
I have an unusual Campo with a tail on eBay. It looks oriented but has no flow lines on the bottom. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281146159278 Thanks, Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo impact (new finds)
Hi list ... Is there information as to the location of the "new" Campos in relationship to the original strewn field? The extent of the new find? Has this find been mapped? Any publications since William A. Cassidy's excellent article in MAPS 1996? Is this find outside the originally mapped crater field? All responses sincerely appreciated, Michael M
[meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo - the top 1%
Hello List, I'm offering over 300lb's of Campo del Cielo for the collector who wants only the best, at reduced prices. http://www.meteorman.org/Campo_NEW.htm Regards, Tim Heitz MIDWEST METEORITES - http://www.meteorman.org/list.htm more for sale here __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo recovered weight
Dear Sara, List, BERND; In my catalogue, I see no TKW for my favorite Gibeon iron; perchance is it in the running? Cape York 59 T., Canyon Diablo 30 T. Gibeon"large masses, other large masses..."? Davy A. ErrDavy F. that is! Sara Arsenault wrote: Dear list, I have been reading post on the list for a few months now. This is my first intervention, I hope some of you will be able to help out. I am working on a virtual exhibition concerning meteorites for the Montreal Planetarium, Canada. One of the sections of the site will present some famous meteorites including Campo del Cielo. I am trying to evaluate the total recovered weight for this meteorite. In Grady's catalogue (page 126), the addition of the numerous masses give a total of 45 tonnes (approximately). The 37 tonnes that Robert Haag tried to buy with no success in 1990 is not cited. Would the real total be 82 tonnes? If so, Camp del Cielo would be the heaviest iron meteorite recovered (in total mass)... Thank you for your help and excuse my English, it is a second language. Sara Arsenault Museologist Planetarium de Montreal _ Balayez vos courriels entrants et sortants et les pièces jointes et contribuez à éliminer les virus destructeurs susceptibles d'y être intégrés. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=fr-ca&page=features/virus Commencez dès maintenant à profiter de tous les avantages de MSN Premium et obtenez les deux premiers mois GRATUITS*. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo recovered weight
Hello Sara and List, > I am trying to evaluate the total recovered weight for this meteorite. > In Grady's catalogue (page 126), the addition of the numerous masses > gives a total of 45 tonnes (approximately). The 37 tonnes that Robert > Haag tried to buy with no success in 1990 is not cited. Would the real > total be 82 tonnes? If so, Camp del Cielo would be the heaviest iron > meteorite recovered (in total mass). LIBERMAN R.G. et al. (2002) Campo del Cielo iron meteorite: Sample shielding and meteoroid's preatmospheric size (MAPS 37-2, 2002, pp. 295-300, excerpts from p. 295): Preatmospheric size - radius larger than 300 cm plus a mass of at least 84 kg. Iron = 92.7 %, nickel = 6.15 %, cobalt = 0.42 %, carbon = 0.37 %, phosphorus = 0.28 %. Romana A. and Cassidy W.A. (1972) determined the time of fall to be ca. 4000 years BP by radiocarbon dating of charcoal samples extracted from the bottom of one of the craters. Excavation of two medium-sized craters (crater 9 and 10 - there are more than 20 craters) revealed two pieces of about 5000 kg each buried in one and another piece of about 36000 kg in the other. Assuming a minimum mass of 5000 kg in each of the other 18 craters implies a recovered mass of at least 14 kg (Cassidy, pers. comm.). This value corresponds to an original meteoroid radius of at least 160 cm. Best wishes from Germany, Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo recovered weight
Hi bernd, Sara and all, Somewhere I talked to one of the original field investigators of the Campo del Cielo, and he commented that their earlier work was off by quite a bit because of the vast amount of new specimens being found far out beyond what they had deemed the limit of the strewnfield. He made mention that new work was needed to better assess total weight. Just keep this in mind if using the old data. --AL Mitterling __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo 65kilo's for sale here
I have a beautiful whole individual piece of Campo del Cielo for sale here. I will take an additional amount off price if you our a serious collector. http://www.meteorman.org/Campo_65kilo.htm
[meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo auction - The Argentinian answer
Hello this is the answer to the campo del cielo sold on auction Subastaron dos meteoritos descubiertos en Argentina Uno se vendió por más de US$ 90 mil y pesa 161 kilogramos. Fueron encontrados en Campo del Cielo, Chaco, una zona característica por los impactos de objetos celestes. ESCULTURA. El meteorito subastado en 93 mil dólares. (AP) ESCULTURA. El meteorito subastado en 93 mil dólares. (AP) Un meteorito de 161 kilogramos hallado en Argentina fue vendido en US$ 91.3765 en una subasta organizada por la firma Bonhams, en su sede de New York. El aerolito descubierto en el Chaco, en el paraje Campo del Cielo, proviene del cinturón de asteroides ubicado entre Marte y Júpiter, y cayó en la tierra hace "miles" de años, según los expertos. En la subasta también se vendió, en US$ 1.195, un meteorito esférico de hierro descubierto en 1576 en el mismo lugar, casi cuatro mil años después de haber colisionado con la tierra, según consta en la documentación hecha por exploradores españoles. La venta, que también ofreció un meteorito de Chile, un fòsil de México y un raro pedazo de Luna, cautivó tanto a amantes de la ciencia como de las bellas artes, principalmente coleccionistas privados, decoradores y diseñadores de interiores. "Los meteoritos se aprecian cada vez más por su belleza, y es por eso que sus precios están subiendo al nivel de los objetos de arte", dijo a EFE Thomas Lindgren, director del departamento de Historia Natural de Bonhams. Para el experto, se trata de un tipo arte que no ha sido moldeado por la mano del hombre, sino por la naturaleza y energía espaciales. "Muy poca gente tiene el lujo de tener en casa una escultura del espacio exterior. Los meteoritos son preciados porque son raros, no abundan. Si reunimos todos los meteoritos que existen, representarían menos de un año de producción de oro", señaló. Los meteoritos subastados en Bonhams provenían de la Colección Macovich, la más grande de meteoritos de hierro estéticos en todo el mundo, y que suele hacer préstamos a instituciones como el Smithsonian y el Museo de Historia Natural de Nieva York. Su propietario, el periodista y aventurero Darryl Pitt, la amasó poco a poco, comprando en exposiciones especializadas en historia natural y a otros coleccionistas privados en Estados Unidos y Europa. Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo Impact 17 february 2325 BCE?
William A. Cassidy. Meteorite field studies at Campo del Cielo. Sky and Telescope, Vol.34, Nº1 july 1967 " Having been periodic water holes almost from the day of their formation, the crater contain remainns of animals and humans that have gathered at them. We have found the fossil toe bone of a deer and the jawbone of a dog. According to Malcom C. McKenna of the American Museum of Natural History the dog is probably related to Dusicyon (Cerdocyon) apollinaris, a native of Colombia that no longer ranges into Argentina. We believe the craters to be not older than 6,000 year, and wonder what factor caused this canine form to retreat northward during the time" Best Regards Rodrigo Martinez Atacama Desert Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.meteorites.cl __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo STAMP. First stamp in 3D
Hi There is a new stamp of the Campo del Cielo meteorites. The block has a stamp of the "Chaco" meteorite, the main mass of Campo del Cielo. Also pictured in the block is a drawing of the Campo del Cielo Fall. The most amazing thing about this stamp is that the Chaco photo is IN 3- D!. THIS IS THE FIRST STAMP IN 3 DIMENSIONS: http://www.meteorites.com/stamp/stamp.jpg I have available some sets which include: * the block pictured above * a pair of glasses to see the 3D effect: http://www.meteorites.com/stamp/lentes.jpg * a promotional cover for the stamp: http://www.meteorites.com/stamp/folleto1.jpg http://www.meteorites.com/stamp/folleto1b.jpg * and a booklet with the history and description of Campo del Cielo as good as information of the stamp. This is very nice as some of the photos of the booklet ARE ALSO 3D http://www.meteorites.com/stamp/libroext1.jpg http://www.meteorites.com/stamp/libroext2.jpg http://www.meteorites.com/stamp/libroint1.jpg http://www.meteorites.com/stamp/libroint2.jpg The set is U$S 4 each+s&h Shipping cost is U$S 4 for 1 to 4 sets, and $10 for 5 or more sets payment can be done by paypal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note that the photo and the other 3d pictures seem to be "out of focus" as you need the 3d glasses to see the 3 dimensional effect. Eduardo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo 4.68 kilo - best ever sold!!!!!
Dear Collectors , We have just listed a very beautiful piece of Campo del Cielo 4.68 kilo this is by far some of the best Campo ever sold !!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2274163990 Tim Heitz MIDWEST METEORITES - http://www.meteorman.org/ Many more beautiful pieces listed here - http://www.meteorman.org/Campo_list.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo, Las Palmas, Aruacu. Same or different
All, I am sure this one has been already been answered; if so, please send me to good source (hopefully difinitive) that I might educate myself. There seems to be conflicting 'reads' on these two meteorites: Campo del Cielo, Argentina Las Palmas, Argentina Are they possibly from the same fall, or not. Jonathan Dongell ICMA 3922 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo Impact 17 february 2325 BCE?
>Rodrigo Wrote: >"Having been periodic water holes almost from the day of their >formation, the crater contain remainns of animals and humans that >have >gathered at them. We have found the fossil toe bone of a deer >and the >jawbone of a dog. > Based on this info I declare that Campo killed a human and a dog when it fell. Ample evidence exists. In fact, the dog was an ancestor of an ancient ocean faring group of dogs that later settled in Nakhla Egypt. The human was the dogs owner who tried to save his dog and got whacked with the dog when the meteorite fell. The human and the dog were both hunting deer when the meteorite fell. I am sure that even Kevin couldent dispute this evidence. Cheers DEAN _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo Impact 17 february 2325 BCE?
I think it's fairly obvious that a rabid deer chasing a dog that was chasing a man all fell into the crater where they drowned. Dean Bessey wrote: >Based on this info I declare that Campo killed a human and a dog when it >fell. Ample evidence exists. In fact, the dog was an ancestor of an ancient >ocean faring group of dogs that later settled in Nakhla Egypt. The human >was >the dogs owner who tried to save his dog and got whacked with the dog when >the meteorite fell. >The human and the dog were both hunting deer when the meteorite fell. >I am sure that even Kevin couldent dispute this evidence. >Cheers >DEAN > _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo, Las Palmas, Aruacu. Same or different
Hi Jonathan, I've been told that Las Palmas is different than Campo. I don't know about the third iron you mentioned. But, Las Palmas has not been classified or approved yet, so nothing is official yet. The source that told me is on this list. Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Meteorite Top List - http://meteorite.gotop100.com EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 12/7/10, Jonathan E. Dongell wrote: > All, > I am sure this one has been already been answered; if so, please send me to > good source > (hopefully difinitive) that I might educate myself. > There seems to be conflicting 'reads' on these two meteorites: > Campo del Cielo, Argentina > Las Palmas, Argentina > Are they possibly from the same fall, or not. > Jonathan Dongell > ICMA 3922 > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo 12.58 lb's- 5.72 kilo - MOVIE CLIP on e-bay
I have just listed a beautiful Campo del Cielo - 5.72 kilo's - MUSEUM QUALITY on e-bay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2276526835&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT Tim Heitz MIDWEST METEORITES - http://www.meteorman.org/ e-bayhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2276526835&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list