RE: [meteorite-list] Anti-rust

2003-06-30 Thread mark ford








 

 

Hi,

 

 

Problem is that irons (and indeed chondrites)
actually contain a [mixture] of metals and there therefore is an electronic
potential between different metals which is aggravated by water. In a vehicle/car
which is nearly all the same type of steel, electronic protection will probably
work ok, since all surfaces are nicely earthed to the auto/car chassis. But I
doubt if it would work on the dissimilar metals such as those in meteorites
because you could never even out all the charges.

 

Vapor Corrosion inhibitors’ or VCI’s
 are chemical emmiters that stop
rust they  work in a much different
way, they emit a molecular coating which settles on the meteorite / metal
surface just a few atoms thick, and stop the air/water from reaching the
surface thus stopping rust. The coating is so thin that it is not even noticeable
but it really does work and is used extensively for this purpose.

 

 

Mark F.

 

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From: Joseph Murakami
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Sent: 30 June
 2003 09:40
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Subject: [meteorite-list]
Anti-rust

 

Here’s a bit of info while I
was investigating anti-rust..

 

The vapor emitters are fascinating,
but how about for our open-air specimens on displays??  This may be prohibitively
costly…I’ll have to await their reply to my inquiries.  

 

This system is for 4WD’s, SUV,
auto’s, but I imagine it might be adaptable for our larger
meteorites.  Anyone out there with
rusty 300 lb Campo’s??

 

 

Joseph

Honolulu

 

http://www.counteractrust.com/

 

 The CounterAct
electronic rust prevention system uses a process called 'capacitive coupling' to apply a measurable
current to every metallic component of a vehicle that's earthed to the battery.
A small unit, usually mounted on the firewall, detects the amount of power
required to create an electrostatic field that will keep the metal structure
electron-rich and then provides that power, reducing the ion mobility that's
the basis of the corrosion process, The unit is fed from the vehicle's battery,
drawing about as much current as an LCD clock.
So the system operates by applying one of the principles of electrochemistry -
that an oxidation reaction can be slowed or retarded by creating a surplus of
electrons to the metal from a supplementary source.








Re: [meteorite-list] Anti-rust

2003-06-30 Thread Steve Schoner
Hello,

I am currently treating a 150 lb Campo for rusting
problems.

It will take about 6 months, an it is currently into
its 4th month.

I will post the results.

Also, the NaOH solution that I have used can also be
use in an electrolytic process where the meteorite
becomes the anode and the offending chlorine ions are
driven out of the specimen.  I have not tried this
yet, and have chosen to use the passive method of
letting the specimen sit in the solution for extended
lenghts of time.

Steve Schoner/ams
http://www.geocities.com/meteorite_identification
 

Steve Schoner/ams
--- Joseph Murakami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Here's a bit of info while I was investigating
> anti-rust..
>  
> The vapor emitters are fascinating, but how about
> for our open-air
> specimens on displays??  This may be prohibitively
> costly.I'll have to
> await their reply to my inquiries.  
>  
> This system is for 4WD's, SUV, auto's, but I imagine
> it might be
> adaptable for our larger meteorites.  Anyone out
> there with rusty 300 lb
> Campo's??
>  
>  
> Joseph
> Honolulu
>  
> http://www.counteractrust.com/
>  
>  The CounterAct electronic rust prevention system
> uses a process called
> 'capacitive coupling' to apply a measurable current
> to every metallic
> component of a vehicle that's earthed to the
> battery. A small unit,
> usually mounted on the firewall, detects the amount
> of power required to
> create an electrostatic field that will keep the
> metal structure
> electron-rich and then provides that power, reducing
> the ion mobility
> that's the basis of the corrosion process, The unit
> is fed from the
> vehicle's battery, drawing about as much current as
> an LCD clock.
> So the system operates by applying one of the
> principles of
> electrochemistry - that an oxidation reaction can be
> slowed or retarded
> by creating a surplus of electrons to the metal from
> a supplementary
> source.
> 


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