Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest Lunar[meteorite] Replica

2016-06-16 Thread Daniel Noyes via Meteorite-list
As an artist myself, I find the curator's suggestion about what
constitutes artistic originals troubling. If an artist creates, or
manipulates an object in such a way that is not an identical print or
reproduction and said object has an identifying element, however so
slight, that makes it different from another creation that is similar,
they are in fact both artistic originals. I have created hand drawn pen
and ink originals in a limited edition that are nearly identical, but by
virtue of the hand drawing process they are inevitable slightly
different. It is impossible to make them identical...we are human after
all, not machines. That's what photocopiers are for. I recently saw a
fascinating install of works by Picasso at the Bellagio here in Las
Vegas where a series of his original lithographs showed the evolution of
a single concept from beginning to end. The were well over a dozen
pieces in the series, each unique. The transition from one piece to the
next was sometimes very subtle and other times dramatic, but they are
all originals.  

Best regards to all, happy hunting, and have a great summer!

Daniel Noyes
Genuine Moon & Mars Meteorite Rocks
i...@moonmarsrocks.com
www.moonmarsrocks.com


 - Original Message - 
: "Barbra Barrett via Meteorite-list"
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> To: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>
> Cc: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 7:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
> Lunar [meteorite] Replica
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> ?First congratulations on what has been sold to you and your museum, I am 
>> very well aware of what you have been sold and the new Maine Mineral Museum."
>> 
>> =
>> 
>> Greg,
>> 
>> I had given you the benefit of doubt. Your awareness of our acquisitions 
>> indicates your knowledge of NWA 10495, making your misrepresentations to the 
>> list and others all the more troubling.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Barbra
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Greg Hupe <gmh...@centurylink.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Welcome to the Meteorite List Barbara!
>>> 
>>> First congratulations on what has been sold to you and your museum, I am 
>>> very well aware of what you have been sold and the new Maine Mineral 
>>> Museum. I am glad you came out in public asking everyone, including all of 
>>> the Moroccan dealers, to contact you directly to save you money on Moroccan 
>>> purchases! Helps everyone and the Moroccans make more profits!!
>>> 
>>> Each 'NWA 5000' I offer was individually painted by hand, by an artist, 
>>> therefore each one is unique and a 'One-of-a-Kind' work of art. Plus I did 
>>> much personal hand work on them! Thank you for your interest!
>>> 
>>> I look forward to visiting your museums treasures when it opens in the 
>>> fall!! :)
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Greg Hupe
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 15, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Barbra Barrett 
>>>> <bbarr...@mainemineralmuseum.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Greetings to All,
>>>> 
>>>> While I have enjoyed reading the posts and have yet to post anything 
>>>> myself, I feel compelled to make my first comment.
>>>> 
>>>> NWA 5000 is indeed an exquisite lunar meteorite. However, there are bigger 
>>>> lunars. Kalahari 009 and NWA 10495, both exceed NWA 5000?s original mass. 
>>>> I?m writing now because I have been honored to curate the main mass of NWA 
>>>> 10495, which weighs 12.120 kg. Accuracy is important and it is impaired by 
>>>> exaggeration. While bigger doesn?t always mean better, when extolling the 
>>>> virtues of the largest lunar meteorite...size matters! Records get broken 
>>>> and we have new achievements to celebrate, but it is not right to 
>>>> celebrate NWA 5000 as being the largest lunar meteorite found?(and 
>>>> respectfully, nor can there be at least three one-of-a-kind works of art).
>>>> 
>>>> Barbra Barrett
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list 
>>>>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear List,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would like to announce the availability of a Limited Edition of the 
>>>>> 'World's Largest Lun

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest Lunar [meteorite] Replica

2016-06-16 Thread Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list

Wow,

Talk about the "Pot Coloring The Kettle Black"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_pot_calling_the_kettle_black


Adam




- Original Message - 
From: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>

To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 5:33 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
Lunar [meteorite] Replica



Thank you for mentioning that, as it was going to be my next reply.

I am truly saddened by your actions over the last several years. It is too 
bad that whatever has afflicted you has overtaken all sensibilities within 
you. Whatever it is, it is too bad you let it take my brother from me! I 
suggest you seek professional help, quickly!


Farewell dear brother, or whoever is in control of Adam's keyboard...

Best regards,
Greg Hupe

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:


Remember, everything you post is now public record and will not help your 
case.


The court of public opinion rarely helps in such cases.  The facts are 
what matter.


Adam



- Original Message - From: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>
To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 4:43 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
Lunar [meteorite] Replica



Dude,

I already told you and your lawyer the truth and your 'team' has wisely 
concluded pursuing and harassing me is not a good idea. Listen to the 
advice of your legal 'team'!


I'm done with your confessional replies here, unless you wish to expose 
yourself some more!


Best regards,
Greg Hupe

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:34 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:


Contact my attorney directly instead of posting this untrue crap to the 
List.


Your lack of professionalism is shining through,

Adam Hupe



- Original Message - From: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>
To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
Lunar [meteorite] Replica



Yep Adam,

You just looked in the mirror and saw the 'ugly truth'! Get real, 
everybody knows the truth, Everybody!!


I've taken care of you for the last 12 years you ungrateful user! I've 
been your 'no money down' meteorite supplier for years until I cut you 
off because of your abuse.


Go get a life and quit harassing me!!

Best regards,
Greg Hupe

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 16, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:


You are the main reason I am moving away from the sales of meteorites. 
Betrayal, greed, self-delusions of grander and shameless shelf-promotion 
all come to mind.  Like any object of great value, they tend to expose 
the truth and character of individuals.  Sometimes the ugly side is 
exposed.


I have always honored all contracts and kept my word.

Adam Hupe
The Founder of The Hupe Collection


- Original Message - From: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>
To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 3:25 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
Lunar [meteorite] Replica



The joke is how desperate Adam has become with his ever-changing 
signature, this time, 'The Original Hupe Collection'. How pathetic! You 
proclaimed your desertion of meteoritics several years ago. I suggest 
you listen you yourselves and go away!!


And absolutely "Yes", the truth is starting to come out thanks to your 
replies to my post about my replicas and me in general. I sold EVERY 
complete slice of NWA 5000 ever placed into any collection. You have 
only sold small and smaller pieces over the years.


In the meantime, you have a nice day!

Best regards,
Greg Hupe

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 16, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:


The entire truth about this matter will come out and not the 
self-serving fiction that was posted below.


Adam Hupe
The Original Hupe Collection


- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>
To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursda

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest Lunar [meteorite] Replica

2016-06-16 Thread Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list
Thank you for mentioning that, as it was going to be my next reply.

I am truly saddened by your actions over the last several years. It is too bad 
that whatever has afflicted you has overtaken all sensibilities within you. 
Whatever it is, it is too bad you let it take my brother from me! I suggest you 
seek professional help, quickly!

Farewell dear brother, or whoever is in control of Adam's keyboard...

Best regards,
Greg Hupe

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> 
> Remember, everything you post is now public record and will not help your 
> case.
> 
> The court of public opinion rarely helps in such cases.  The facts are what 
> matter.
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>
> To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
> Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 4:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
> Lunar [meteorite] Replica
> 
> 
> Dude,
> 
> I already told you and your lawyer the truth and your 'team' has wisely 
> concluded pursuing and harassing me is not a good idea. Listen to the advice 
> of your legal 'team'!
> 
> I'm done with your confessional replies here, unless you wish to expose 
> yourself some more!
> 
> Best regards,
> Greg Hupe
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:34 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Contact my attorney directly instead of posting this untrue crap to the List.
>> 
>> Your lack of professionalism is shining through,
>> 
>> Adam Hupe
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message ----- From: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>
>> To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
>> Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 4:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
>> Lunar [meteorite] Replica
>> 
>> 
>> Yep Adam,
>> 
>> You just looked in the mirror and saw the 'ugly truth'! Get real, everybody 
>> knows the truth, Everybody!!
>> 
>> I've taken care of you for the last 12 years you ungrateful user! I've been 
>> your 'no money down' meteorite supplier for years until I cut you off 
>> because of your abuse.
>> 
>> Go get a life and quit harassing me!!
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Greg Hupe
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
>>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You are the main reason I am moving away from the sales of meteorites. 
>>> Betrayal, greed, self-delusions of grander and shameless shelf-promotion 
>>> all come to mind.  Like any object of great value, they tend to expose the 
>>> truth and character of individuals.  Sometimes the ugly side is exposed.
>>> 
>>> I have always honored all contracts and kept my word.
>>> 
>>> Adam Hupe
>>> The Founder of The Hupe Collection
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>
>>> To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
>>> Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 3:25 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
>>> Lunar [meteorite] Replica
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The joke is how desperate Adam has become with his ever-changing signature, 
>>> this time, 'The Original Hupe Collection'. How pathetic! You proclaimed 
>>> your desertion of meteoritics several years ago. I suggest you listen you 
>>> yourselves and go away!!
>>> 
>>> And absolutely "Yes", the truth is starting to come out thanks to your 
>>> replies to my post about my replicas and me in general. I sold EVERY 
>>> complete slice of NWA 5000 ever placed into any collection. You have only 
>>> sold small and smaller pieces over the years.
>>> 
>>> In the meantime, you have a nice day!
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Greg Hupe
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Rare

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest Lunar [meteorite] Replica

2016-06-16 Thread Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
Remember, everything you post is now public record and will not help your 
case.


The court of public opinion rarely helps in such cases.  The facts are what 
matter.


Adam



- Original Message - 
From: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>

To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 4:43 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
Lunar [meteorite] Replica



Dude,

I already told you and your lawyer the truth and your 'team' has wisely 
concluded pursuing and harassing me is not a good idea. Listen to the advice 
of your legal 'team'!


I'm done with your confessional replies here, unless you wish to expose 
yourself some more!


Best regards,
Greg Hupe

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:34 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:


Contact my attorney directly instead of posting this untrue crap to the 
List.


Your lack of professionalism is shining through,

Adam Hupe



- Original Message - From: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>
To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
Lunar [meteorite] Replica



Yep Adam,

You just looked in the mirror and saw the 'ugly truth'! Get real, 
everybody knows the truth, Everybody!!


I've taken care of you for the last 12 years you ungrateful user! I've 
been your 'no money down' meteorite supplier for years until I cut you off 
because of your abuse.


Go get a life and quit harassing me!!

Best regards,
Greg Hupe

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 16, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:


You are the main reason I am moving away from the sales of meteorites. 
Betrayal, greed, self-delusions of grander and shameless shelf-promotion 
all come to mind.  Like any object of great value, they tend to expose 
the truth and character of individuals.  Sometimes the ugly side is 
exposed.


I have always honored all contracts and kept my word.

Adam Hupe
The Founder of The Hupe Collection


- Original Message - From: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>
To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 3:25 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
Lunar [meteorite] Replica



The joke is how desperate Adam has become with his ever-changing 
signature, this time, 'The Original Hupe Collection'. How pathetic! You 
proclaimed your desertion of meteoritics several years ago. I suggest you 
listen you yourselves and go away!!


And absolutely "Yes", the truth is starting to come out thanks to your 
replies to my post about my replicas and me in general. I sold EVERY 
complete slice of NWA 5000 ever placed into any collection. You have only 
sold small and smaller pieces over the years.


In the meantime, you have a nice day!

Best regards,
Greg Hupe

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 16, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:


The entire truth about this matter will come out and not the 
self-serving fiction that was posted below.


Adam Hupe
The Original Hupe Collection


- Original Message - From: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>
To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 2:02 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
Lunar [meteorite] Replica



Yes, Please nobody confuse me with my brother, Adam. Do not ever think I 
am like that!


I bailed him out on NWA 5000 in June 2013. I have represented Adam and 
his long time and current NWA 5000 partner, Jeff Kroschell, well before 
I rescued the majority of the mass from being returned to the Moroccan 
owners to be utterly destroyed and spread around after the hammer, not 
unlike Adam is doing now with his eBay sales. A 2-year and growing 
disgrace!


Even before I rescued my brother and the meteorite itself, I sold the 
(at the time) the only complete slice to the benefit of Adam AND his 
partner, Jeff Kroschell. During mine and Adam's NWA 5000 'partnership' 
(I say that loosely) I sold other complete slices which Adam and 
presumably Jeff Kroschell benefitted equally to me. Adam dropped the 
ball after about 2010 and he let NWA 5000 become stagnant. Me, and my 
company, Nature's Vault, Inc., represented and professionally sold NWA 
5000 to some

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest Lunar [meteorite] Replica

2016-06-16 Thread Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list
Dude,

I already told you and your lawyer the truth and your 'team' has wisely 
concluded pursuing and harassing me is not a good idea. Listen to the advice of 
your legal 'team'!

I'm done with your confessional replies here, unless you wish to expose 
yourself some more!

Best regards,
Greg Hupe

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:34 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> 
> Contact my attorney directly instead of posting this untrue crap to the List.
> 
> Your lack of professionalism is shining through,
> 
> Adam Hupe
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>
> To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
> Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 4:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
> Lunar [meteorite] Replica
> 
> 
> Yep Adam,
> 
> You just looked in the mirror and saw the 'ugly truth'! Get real, everybody 
> knows the truth, Everybody!!
> 
> I've taken care of you for the last 12 years you ungrateful user! I've been 
> your 'no money down' meteorite supplier for years until I cut you off because 
> of your abuse.
> 
> Go get a life and quit harassing me!!
> 
> Best regards,
> Greg Hupe
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>> 
>> You are the main reason I am moving away from the sales of meteorites. 
>> Betrayal, greed, self-delusions of grander and shameless shelf-promotion all 
>> come to mind.  Like any object of great value, they tend to expose the truth 
>> and character of individuals.  Sometimes the ugly side is exposed.
>> 
>> I have always honored all contracts and kept my word.
>> 
>> Adam Hupe
>> The Founder of The Hupe Collection
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>
>> To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
>> Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 3:25 AM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
>> Lunar [meteorite] Replica
>> 
>> 
>> The joke is how desperate Adam has become with his ever-changing signature, 
>> this time, 'The Original Hupe Collection'. How pathetic! You proclaimed your 
>> desertion of meteoritics several years ago. I suggest you listen you 
>> yourselves and go away!!
>> 
>> And absolutely "Yes", the truth is starting to come out thanks to your 
>> replies to my post about my replicas and me in general. I sold EVERY 
>> complete slice of NWA 5000 ever placed into any collection. You have only 
>> sold small and smaller pieces over the years.
>> 
>> In the meantime, you have a nice day!
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Greg Hupe
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
>>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The entire truth about this matter will come out and not the self-serving 
>>> fiction that was posted below.
>>> 
>>> Adam Hupe
>>> The Original Hupe Collection
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>
>>> To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
>>> Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 2:02 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
>>> Lunar [meteorite] Replica
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes, Please nobody confuse me with my brother, Adam. Do not ever think I am 
>>> like that!
>>> 
>>> I bailed him out on NWA 5000 in June 2013. I have represented Adam and his 
>>> long time and current NWA 5000 partner, Jeff Kroschell, well before I 
>>> rescued the majority of the mass from being returned to the Moroccan owners 
>>> to be utterly destroyed and spread around after the hammer, not unlike Adam 
>>> is doing now with his eBay sales. A 2-year and growing disgrace!
>>> 
>>> Even before I rescued my brother and the meteorite itself, I sold the (at 
>>> the time) the only complete slice to the benefit of Adam AND his partner, 
>>> Jeff Krosch

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest Lunar [meteorite] Replica

2016-06-16 Thread Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
Contact my attorney directly instead of posting this untrue crap to the 
List.


Your lack of professionalism is shining through,

Adam Hupe



- Original Message - 
From: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>

To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
Lunar [meteorite] Replica



Yep Adam,

You just looked in the mirror and saw the 'ugly truth'! Get real, everybody 
knows the truth, Everybody!!


I've taken care of you for the last 12 years you ungrateful user! I've been 
your 'no money down' meteorite supplier for years until I cut you off 
because of your abuse.


Go get a life and quit harassing me!!

Best regards,
Greg Hupe

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 16, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:


You are the main reason I am moving away from the sales of meteorites. 
Betrayal, greed, self-delusions of grander and shameless shelf-promotion 
all come to mind.  Like any object of great value, they tend to expose the 
truth and character of individuals.  Sometimes the ugly side is exposed.


I have always honored all contracts and kept my word.

Adam Hupe
The Founder of The Hupe Collection


- Original Message - From: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>
To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 3:25 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
Lunar [meteorite] Replica



The joke is how desperate Adam has become with his ever-changing 
signature, this time, 'The Original Hupe Collection'. How pathetic! You 
proclaimed your desertion of meteoritics several years ago. I suggest you 
listen you yourselves and go away!!


And absolutely "Yes", the truth is starting to come out thanks to your 
replies to my post about my replicas and me in general. I sold EVERY 
complete slice of NWA 5000 ever placed into any collection. You have only 
sold small and smaller pieces over the years.


In the meantime, you have a nice day!

Best regards,
Greg Hupe

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 16, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:


The entire truth about this matter will come out and not the self-serving 
fiction that was posted below.


Adam Hupe
The Original Hupe Collection


- Original Message - From: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>
To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 2:02 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
Lunar [meteorite] Replica



Yes, Please nobody confuse me with my brother, Adam. Do not ever think I 
am like that!


I bailed him out on NWA 5000 in June 2013. I have represented Adam and 
his long time and current NWA 5000 partner, Jeff Kroschell, well before I 
rescued the majority of the mass from being returned to the Moroccan 
owners to be utterly destroyed and spread around after the hammer, not 
unlike Adam is doing now with his eBay sales. A 2-year and growing 
disgrace!


Even before I rescued my brother and the meteorite itself, I sold the (at 
the time) the only complete slice to the benefit of Adam AND his partner, 
Jeff Kroschell. During mine and Adam's NWA 5000 'partnership' (I say that 
loosely) I sold other complete slices which Adam and presumably Jeff 
Kroschell benefitted equally to me. Adam dropped the ball after about 
2010 and he let NWA 5000 become stagnant. Me, and my company, Nature's 
Vault, Inc., represented and professionally sold NWA 5000 to some of the 
'world's most influential' individuals with my hard work and expense. In 
addition to my purchasing 50% of the remaining mass in June 2013 directly 
from the rightfully impatient Moroccans owners for non-payment, I was 
also given access to the intellectual rights to the web site and the mold 
which Jeff Kroschell and Adam made together! To this day my ungrateful 
and threatening brother benefits from my directing people to HIM by my 
worldly efforts with NWA 5000. I owe him nothing!!


I am very proud of all of my efforts in my NWA 5000 representation and 
ethical sales! I will not be bullied by opportunists and ungrateful 
users!


For the record, in ONLY the last week was I informed about NWA 10495, and 
have it confirmed by Tony Irving (same one who consulted on my Yale 
display), and without physical proof of Kalahari, it is still a myth 
until a particular dealer thinks he can draw it out of the shadows and 
sell it to the Maine Mineral Museum (Barbara in this t

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest Lunar [meteorite] Replica

2016-06-16 Thread Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list
Yep Adam,

You just looked in the mirror and saw the 'ugly truth'! Get real, everybody 
knows the truth, Everybody!!

I've taken care of you for the last 12 years you ungrateful user! I've been 
your 'no money down' meteorite supplier for years until I cut you off because 
of your abuse.

Go get a life and quit harassing me!!

Best regards,
Greg Hupe

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 16, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> 
> You are the main reason I am moving away from the sales of meteorites. 
> Betrayal, greed, self-delusions of grander and shameless shelf-promotion all 
> come to mind.  Like any object of great value, they tend to expose the truth 
> and character of individuals.  Sometimes the ugly side is exposed.
> 
> I have always honored all contracts and kept my word.
> 
> Adam Hupe
> The Founder of The Hupe Collection
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>
> To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
> Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 3:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
> Lunar [meteorite] Replica
> 
> 
> The joke is how desperate Adam has become with his ever-changing signature, 
> this time, 'The Original Hupe Collection'. How pathetic! You proclaimed your 
> desertion of meteoritics several years ago. I suggest you listen you 
> yourselves and go away!!
> 
> And absolutely "Yes", the truth is starting to come out thanks to your 
> replies to my post about my replicas and me in general. I sold EVERY complete 
> slice of NWA 5000 ever placed into any collection. You have only sold small 
> and smaller pieces over the years.
> 
> In the meantime, you have a nice day!
> 
> Best regards,
> Greg Hupe
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The entire truth about this matter will come out and not the self-serving 
>> fiction that was posted below.
>> 
>> Adam Hupe
>> The Original Hupe Collection
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>
>> To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
>> Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 2:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
>> Lunar [meteorite] Replica
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, Please nobody confuse me with my brother, Adam. Do not ever think I am 
>> like that!
>> 
>> I bailed him out on NWA 5000 in June 2013. I have represented Adam and his 
>> long time and current NWA 5000 partner, Jeff Kroschell, well before I 
>> rescued the majority of the mass from being returned to the Moroccan owners 
>> to be utterly destroyed and spread around after the hammer, not unlike Adam 
>> is doing now with his eBay sales. A 2-year and growing disgrace!
>> 
>> Even before I rescued my brother and the meteorite itself, I sold the (at 
>> the time) the only complete slice to the benefit of Adam AND his partner, 
>> Jeff Kroschell. During mine and Adam's NWA 5000 'partnership' (I say that 
>> loosely) I sold other complete slices which Adam and presumably Jeff 
>> Kroschell benefitted equally to me. Adam dropped the ball after about 2010 
>> and he let NWA 5000 become stagnant. Me, and my company, Nature's Vault, 
>> Inc., represented and professionally sold NWA 5000 to some of the 'world's 
>> most influential' individuals with my hard work and expense. In addition to 
>> my purchasing 50% of the remaining mass in June 2013 directly from the 
>> rightfully impatient Moroccans owners for non-payment, I was also given 
>> access to the intellectual rights to the web site and the mold which Jeff 
>> Kroschell and Adam made together! To this day my ungrateful and threatening 
>> brother benefits from my directing people to HIM by my worldly efforts with 
>> NWA 5000. I owe him nothing!!
>> 
>> I am very proud of all of my efforts in my NWA 5000 representation and 
>> ethical sales! I will not be bullied by opportunists and ungrateful users!
>> 
>> For the record, in ONLY the last week was I informed about NWA 10495, and 
>> have it confirmed by Tony Irving (same one who consulted on my Yale 
>> display), and without physical proof of Kalahari, it is still a myth until a 
>> particular dealer

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest Lunar [meteorite] Replica

2016-06-16 Thread Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
You are the main reason I am moving away from the sales of meteorites. 
Betrayal, greed, self-delusions of grander and shameless shelf-promotion all 
come to mind.  Like any object of great value, they tend to expose the truth 
and character of individuals.  Sometimes the ugly side is exposed.


I have always honored all contracts and kept my word.

Adam Hupe
The Founder of The Hupe Collection


- Original Message - 
From: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>

To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 3:25 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
Lunar [meteorite] Replica



The joke is how desperate Adam has become with his ever-changing signature, 
this time, 'The Original Hupe Collection'. How pathetic! You proclaimed your 
desertion of meteoritics several years ago. I suggest you listen you 
yourselves and go away!!


And absolutely "Yes", the truth is starting to come out thanks to your 
replies to my post about my replicas and me in general. I sold EVERY 
complete slice of NWA 5000 ever placed into any collection. You have only 
sold small and smaller pieces over the years.


In the meantime, you have a nice day!

Best regards,
Greg Hupe

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 16, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:


The entire truth about this matter will come out and not the self-serving 
fiction that was posted below.


Adam Hupe
The Original Hupe Collection


- Original Message - From: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>
To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 2:02 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
Lunar [meteorite] Replica



Yes, Please nobody confuse me with my brother, Adam. Do not ever think I 
am like that!


I bailed him out on NWA 5000 in June 2013. I have represented Adam and his 
long time and current NWA 5000 partner, Jeff Kroschell, well before I 
rescued the majority of the mass from being returned to the Moroccan 
owners to be utterly destroyed and spread around after the hammer, not 
unlike Adam is doing now with his eBay sales. A 2-year and growing 
disgrace!


Even before I rescued my brother and the meteorite itself, I sold the (at 
the time) the only complete slice to the benefit of Adam AND his partner, 
Jeff Kroschell. During mine and Adam's NWA 5000 'partnership' (I say that 
loosely) I sold other complete slices which Adam and presumably Jeff 
Kroschell benefitted equally to me. Adam dropped the ball after about 2010 
and he let NWA 5000 become stagnant. Me, and my company, Nature's Vault, 
Inc., represented and professionally sold NWA 5000 to some of the 'world's 
most influential' individuals with my hard work and expense. In addition 
to my purchasing 50% of the remaining mass in June 2013 directly from the 
rightfully impatient Moroccans owners for non-payment, I was also given 
access to the intellectual rights to the web site and the mold which Jeff 
Kroschell and Adam made together! To this day my ungrateful and 
threatening brother benefits from my directing people to HIM by my worldly 
efforts with NWA 5000. I owe him nothing!!


I am very proud of all of my efforts in my NWA 5000 representation and 
ethical sales! I will not be bullied by opportunists and ungrateful users!


For the record, in ONLY the last week was I informed about NWA 10495, and 
have it confirmed by Tony Irving (same one who consulted on my Yale 
display), and without physical proof of Kalahari, it is still a myth until 
a particular dealer thinks he can draw it out of the shadows and sell it 
to the Maine Mineral Museum (Barbara in this thread).


I have not 'misrepresented' NWA 5000 in any way as the very 
unprofessional, and nearly slanderous acquisitions manager has accused me 
of in this thread. I will not be bullied by her or her dealer either!


I've worked too hard for the benefit of everyone, especially a very 
ungrateful ex-business partner, my estranged brother.


I suggest you all pay attention to your own business. Life is too short to 
continue messing with me! I will not tolerate being slandered, used or 
accused. Get over yourselves!!


Best regards,
Greg Hupe

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 16, 2016, at 5:48 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:


I do not want to be confused with Greg on the latest round of claims or 
business dealings.  I operate independently.


I only claimed NWA 5000 was the largest Highlands lunar meteorite ever 
found and the largest to ever be put on public display.  This has always 
been clearly stated on my copyrighted website which was cr

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest Lunar [meteorite] Replica

2016-06-16 Thread Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list
Thank you all for the private and public congratulations to my work regarding 
NWA 5000.

I would especially like to thank everyone, even the negative posters, for the 
Free Advertising of my replicas. You haven't even seen them and they are 
already causing a Buzz! So Awesome!

I appreciate your endorsements and recognition! ;-)

Best regards,
Greg Hupe

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2016, at 4:30 AM, Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear List,
> 
> I would like to announce the availability of a Limited Edition of the 
> 'World's Largest Lunar [meteorite] Replica'. When I say "Limited Edition", I 
> mean extremely limited! I will be bringing and showing 1 of 3 (available) 
> Full-size Painted replicas to the Ensisheim Show this week. Since each 
> replica was hand painted by a professional artist right here in Florida they 
> are all One-of-a-Kind works of art!
> 
> Please see here a sneak peek: 
> http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/NWA5000/NWA5000_Replica_Limited-Edition1.jpg
> 
> See you at the show!
> 
> Best Regards,
> Greg
> 
> 
> Greg Hupe
> The Hupe Collection
> gmh...@centurylink.net
> www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog & Reference Site)
> www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site)
> NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest & eBay)
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> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest Lunar [meteorite] Replica

2016-06-16 Thread Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list
The joke is how desperate Adam has become with his ever-changing signature, 
this time, 'The Original Hupe Collection'. How pathetic! You proclaimed your 
desertion of meteoritics several years ago. I suggest you listen you yourselves 
and go away!!

And absolutely "Yes", the truth is starting to come out thanks to your replies 
to my post about my replicas and me in general. I sold EVERY complete slice of 
NWA 5000 ever placed into any collection. You have only sold small and smaller 
pieces over the years. 

In the meantime, you have a nice day!

Best regards,
Greg Hupe

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 16, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> 
> The entire truth about this matter will come out and not the self-serving 
> fiction that was posted below.
> 
> Adam Hupe
> The Original Hupe Collection
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>
> To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
> Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 2:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
> Lunar [meteorite] Replica
> 
> 
> Yes, Please nobody confuse me with my brother, Adam. Do not ever think I am 
> like that!
> 
> I bailed him out on NWA 5000 in June 2013. I have represented Adam and his 
> long time and current NWA 5000 partner, Jeff Kroschell, well before I rescued 
> the majority of the mass from being returned to the Moroccan owners to be 
> utterly destroyed and spread around after the hammer, not unlike Adam is 
> doing now with his eBay sales. A 2-year and growing disgrace!
> 
> Even before I rescued my brother and the meteorite itself, I sold the (at the 
> time) the only complete slice to the benefit of Adam AND his partner, Jeff 
> Kroschell. During mine and Adam's NWA 5000 'partnership' (I say that loosely) 
> I sold other complete slices which Adam and presumably Jeff Kroschell 
> benefitted equally to me. Adam dropped the ball after about 2010 and he let 
> NWA 5000 become stagnant. Me, and my company, Nature's Vault, Inc., 
> represented and professionally sold NWA 5000 to some of the 'world's most 
> influential' individuals with my hard work and expense. In addition to my 
> purchasing 50% of the remaining mass in June 2013 directly from the 
> rightfully impatient Moroccans owners for non-payment, I was also given 
> access to the intellectual rights to the web site and the mold which Jeff 
> Kroschell and Adam made together! To this day my ungrateful and threatening 
> brother benefits from my directing people to HIM by my worldly efforts with 
> NWA 5000. I owe him nothing!!
> 
> I am very proud of all of my efforts in my NWA 5000 representation and 
> ethical sales! I will not be bullied by opportunists and ungrateful users!
> 
> For the record, in ONLY the last week was I informed about NWA 10495, and 
> have it confirmed by Tony Irving (same one who consulted on my Yale display), 
> and without physical proof of Kalahari, it is still a myth until a particular 
> dealer thinks he can draw it out of the shadows and sell it to the Maine 
> Mineral Museum (Barbara in this thread).
> 
> I have not 'misrepresented' NWA 5000 in any way as the very unprofessional, 
> and nearly slanderous acquisitions manager has accused me of in this thread. 
> I will not be bullied by her or her dealer either!
> 
> I've worked too hard for the benefit of everyone, especially a very 
> ungrateful ex-business partner, my estranged brother.
> 
> I suggest you all pay attention to your own business. Life is too short to 
> continue messing with me! I will not tolerate being slandered, used or 
> accused. Get over yourselves!!
> 
> Best regards,
> Greg Hupe
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 5:48 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I do not want to be confused with Greg on the latest round of claims or 
>> business dealings.  I operate independently.
>> 
>> I only claimed NWA 5000 was the largest Highlands lunar meteorite ever found 
>> and the largest to ever be put on public display.  This has always been 
>> clearly stated on my copyrighted website which was created long before Greg 
>> became involved and needs to be updated..
>> 
>> I give Kalahari 009 the benefit of the doubt on my website, although it has 
>> never been weight certified or shown in public.  The weight remains 
>> unofficial and looks to be rounded off or guesstimated to me.  Some doubt 
>> its existence or that it is even

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest Lunar [meteorite] Replica

2016-06-16 Thread Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
The entire truth about this matter will come out and not the self-serving 
fiction that was posted below.


Adam Hupe
The Original Hupe Collection


- Original Message - 
From: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>

To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 2:02 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
Lunar [meteorite] Replica



Yes, Please nobody confuse me with my brother, Adam. Do not ever think I am 
like that!


I bailed him out on NWA 5000 in June 2013. I have represented Adam and his 
long time and current NWA 5000 partner, Jeff Kroschell, well before I 
rescued the majority of the mass from being returned to the Moroccan owners 
to be utterly destroyed and spread around after the hammer, not unlike Adam 
is doing now with his eBay sales. A 2-year and growing disgrace!


Even before I rescued my brother and the meteorite itself, I sold the (at 
the time) the only complete slice to the benefit of Adam AND his partner, 
Jeff Kroschell. During mine and Adam's NWA 5000 'partnership' (I say that 
loosely) I sold other complete slices which Adam and presumably Jeff 
Kroschell benefitted equally to me. Adam dropped the ball after about 2010 
and he let NWA 5000 become stagnant. Me, and my company, Nature's Vault, 
Inc., represented and professionally sold NWA 5000 to some of the 'world's 
most influential' individuals with my hard work and expense. In addition to 
my purchasing 50% of the remaining mass in June 2013 directly from the 
rightfully impatient Moroccans owners for non-payment, I was also given 
access to the intellectual rights to the web site and the mold which Jeff 
Kroschell and Adam made together! To this day my ungrateful and threatening 
brother benefits from my directing people to HIM by my worldly efforts with 
NWA 5000. I owe him nothing!!


I am very proud of all of my efforts in my NWA 5000 representation and 
ethical sales! I will not be bullied by opportunists and ungrateful users!


For the record, in ONLY the last week was I informed about NWA 10495, and 
have it confirmed by Tony Irving (same one who consulted on my Yale 
display), and without physical proof of Kalahari, it is still a myth until a 
particular dealer thinks he can draw it out of the shadows and sell it to 
the Maine Mineral Museum (Barbara in this thread).


I have not 'misrepresented' NWA 5000 in any way as the very unprofessional, 
and nearly slanderous acquisitions manager has accused me of in this thread. 
I will not be bullied by her or her dealer either!


I've worked too hard for the benefit of everyone, especially a very 
ungrateful ex-business partner, my estranged brother.


I suggest you all pay attention to your own business. Life is too short to 
continue messing with me! I will not tolerate being slandered, used or 
accused. Get over yourselves!!


Best regards,
Greg Hupe

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 16, 2016, at 5:48 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:


I do not want to be confused with Greg on the latest round of claims or 
business dealings.  I operate independently.


I only claimed NWA 5000 was the largest Highlands lunar meteorite ever 
found and the largest to ever be put on public display.  This has always 
been clearly stated on my copyrighted website which was created long 
before Greg became involved and needs to be updated..


I give Kalahari 009 the benefit of the doubt on my website, although it 
has never been weight certified or shown in public.  The weight remains 
unofficial and looks to be rounded off or guesstimated to me.  Some doubt 
its existence or that it is even lunar.  I have never seen it, know very 
little about it, don't like how it was managed and have very little 
interest in it.


Link to my NWA 5000 Website:
http://themeteoritesite.com/


For the record, I created the mold and casting system for the NWA 5000 
main mass and maintain all the rights; artistic, intellectual, copyrighted 
and otherwise.  I authorized one additional casting to be used for 
promotional purposes only and not to be resold.  I spent over 200 hours 
designing and creating a near perfect mold of the complete NWA 5000 main 
mass and a procedure for producing castings without bubbles or a 
noticeable seam.


I have a few questions in regards to NWA 10495:.

I do not recall seeing images of NWA 10495 which is claimed to weigh 
12.120 kg.   Has it been weight certified in front of witnesses and are 
there any images?  Is it  a reassembled puzzle, many stones or as single 
mass?  If it does turn out to be a single largest certified lunar mass, I 
will be the first to offer congratulations.


In any case, I want everybody to know that I have never misrepresented NWA 
5000 and have nothing to do with current claims or events.


My claim is that NWA 5000 

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest Lunar [meteorite] Replica

2016-06-16 Thread Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list
Dear Barbara,

First, do do attempt to libel me with your statement, '...making your 
misrepresentations...' I do not take kindly to uninformed statements from what 
you perceive as 'my knowledge', whether I wrote similar or not.

Your first post to the Meteorite List was unprofessional, aggressive, defensive 
(for the museum you represent) and just all around nasty and uncalled for.

For the record, in ONLY the last week was I informed about NWA 10495, and have 
it confirmed by Tony Irving (same one who consulted on my Yale display), and 
without physical proof of Kalahari, it is still a myth until a particular 
dealer thinks he can draw it out of the shadows and sell it to the Maine 
Mineral Museum (You and/or the company you represent).

I have not 'misrepresented' NWA 5000 in any way! I've worked too hard for the 
benefit of everyone, especially a very ungrateful ex-business partner, my 
estranged brother.

I suggest you all pay attention to your own business. Life is too short to 
continue messing with me! I will not tolerate being , libeled, slandered, used 
or accused.

Good luck with the opening of the Maine Mineral Museum this fall which with 
boast a large collection of NWA meteorites. I look forward to carefully reading 
your description in the displays!

Best regards,
Greg Hupe

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 16, 2016, at 4:17 AM, Barbra Barrett  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> “First congratulations on what has been sold to you and your museum, I am 
> very well aware of what you have been sold and the new Maine Mineral Museum."
> 
> =
> 
> Greg, 
> 
> I had given you the benefit of doubt. Your awareness of our acquisitions 
> indicates your knowledge of NWA 10495, making your misrepresentations to the 
> list and others all the more troubling. 
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Barbra
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Greg Hupe  wrote:
>> 
>> Welcome to the Meteorite List Barbara!
>> 
>> First congratulations on what has been sold to you and your museum, I am 
>> very well aware of what you have been sold and the new Maine Mineral Museum. 
>> I am glad you came out in public asking everyone, including all of the 
>> Moroccan dealers, to contact you directly to save you money on Moroccan 
>> purchases! Helps everyone and the Moroccans make more profits!!
>> 
>> Each 'NWA 5000' I offer was individually painted by hand, by an artist, 
>> therefore each one is unique and a 'One-of-a-Kind' work of art. Plus I did 
>> much personal hand work on them! Thank you for your interest!
>> 
>> I look forward to visiting your museums treasures when it opens in the 
>> fall!! :)
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Greg Hupe
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Barbra Barrett 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Greetings to All, 
>>> 
>>> While I have enjoyed reading the posts and have yet to post anything 
>>> myself, I feel compelled to make my first comment.  
>>> 
>>> NWA 5000 is indeed an exquisite lunar meteorite.  However, there are bigger 
>>> lunars.  Kalahari 009 and NWA 10495, both exceed NWA 5000’s original mass.  
>>> I’m writing now because I have been honored to curate the main mass of NWA 
>>> 10495, which weighs 12.120 kg. Accuracy is important and it is impaired by 
>>> exaggeration.  While bigger doesn’t always mean better, when extolling the 
>>> virtues of the largest lunar meteorite...size matters!  Records get broken 
>>> and we have new achievements to celebrate, but it is not right to celebrate 
>>> NWA 5000 as being the largest lunar meteorite found…(and respectfully, nor 
>>> can there be at least three one-of-a-kind works of art). 
>>> 
>>> Barbra Barrett
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 14, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list 
  wrote:
 
 Dear List,
 
 I would like to announce the availability of a Limited Edition of the 
 'World's Largest Lunar [meteorite] Replica'. When I say "Limited Edition", 
 I mean extremely limited! I will be bringing and showing 1 of 3 
 (available) Full-size Painted replicas to the Ensisheim Show this week. 
 Since each replica was hand painted by a professional artist right here in 
 Florida they are all One-of-a-Kind works of art!
 
 Please see here a sneak peek: 
 http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/NWA5000/NWA5000_Replica_Limited-Edition1.jpg
 
 See you at the show!
 
 Best Regards,
 Greg
 
 
 Greg Hupe
 The Hupe Collection
 gmh...@centurylink.net
 www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog & Reference Site)
 www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site)
 NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest & eBay)
 http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault
 http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault
 IMCA 3163
 
 Click here for my current eBay 

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest Lunar [meteorite] Replica

2016-06-16 Thread Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list
Yes, Please nobody confuse me with my brother, Adam. Do not ever think I am 
like that!

I bailed him out on NWA 5000 in June 2013. I have represented Adam and his long 
time and current NWA 5000 partner, Jeff Kroschell, well before I rescued the 
majority of the mass from being returned to the Moroccan owners to be utterly 
destroyed and spread around after the hammer, not unlike Adam is doing now with 
his eBay sales. A 2-year and growing disgrace!

Even before I rescued my brother and the meteorite itself, I sold the (at the 
time) the only complete slice to the benefit of Adam AND his partner, Jeff 
Kroschell. During mine and Adam's NWA 5000 'partnership' (I say that loosely) I 
sold other complete slices which Adam and presumably Jeff Kroschell benefitted 
equally to me. Adam dropped the ball after about 2010 and he let NWA 5000 
become stagnant. Me, and my company, Nature's Vault, Inc., represented and 
professionally sold NWA 5000 to some of the 'world's most influential' 
individuals with my hard work and expense. In addition to my purchasing 50% of 
the remaining mass in June 2013 directly from the rightfully impatient 
Moroccans owners for non-payment, I was also given access to the intellectual 
rights to the web site and the mold which Jeff Kroschell and Adam made 
together! To this day my ungrateful and threatening brother benefits from my 
directing people to HIM by my worldly efforts with NWA 5000. I owe him nothing!!

I am very proud of all of my efforts in my NWA 5000 representation and ethical 
sales! I will not be bullied by opportunists and ungrateful users!

For the record, in ONLY the last week was I informed about NWA 10495, and have 
it confirmed by Tony Irving (same one who consulted on my Yale display), and 
without physical proof of Kalahari, it is still a myth until a particular 
dealer thinks he can draw it out of the shadows and sell it to the Maine 
Mineral Museum (Barbara in this thread).

I have not 'misrepresented' NWA 5000 in any way as the very unprofessional, and 
nearly slanderous acquisitions manager has accused me of in this thread. I will 
not be bullied by her or her dealer either!

I've worked too hard for the benefit of everyone, especially a very ungrateful 
ex-business partner, my estranged brother.

I suggest you all pay attention to your own business. Life is too short to 
continue messing with me! I will not tolerate being slandered, used or accused. 
Get over yourselves!!

Best regards,
Greg Hupe

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 16, 2016, at 5:48 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> 
> I do not want to be confused with Greg on the latest round of claims or 
> business dealings.  I operate independently.
> 
> I only claimed NWA 5000 was the largest Highlands lunar meteorite ever found 
> and the largest to ever be put on public display.  This has always been 
> clearly stated on my copyrighted website which was created long before Greg 
> became involved and needs to be updated..
> 
> I give Kalahari 009 the benefit of the doubt on my website, although it has 
> never been weight certified or shown in public.  The weight remains 
> unofficial and looks to be rounded off or guesstimated to me.  Some doubt its 
> existence or that it is even lunar.  I have never seen it, know very little 
> about it, don't like how it was managed and have very little interest in it.
> 
> Link to my NWA 5000 Website:
> http://themeteoritesite.com/
> 
> 
> For the record, I created the mold and casting system for the NWA 5000 main 
> mass and maintain all the rights; artistic, intellectual, copyrighted and 
> otherwise.  I authorized one additional casting to be used for promotional 
> purposes only and not to be resold.  I spent over 200 hours designing and 
> creating a near perfect mold of the complete NWA 5000 main mass and a 
> procedure for producing castings without bubbles or a noticeable seam.
> 
> I have a few questions in regards to NWA 10495:.
> 
> I do not recall seeing images of NWA 10495 which is claimed to weigh 12.120 
> kg.   Has it been weight certified in front of witnesses and are there any 
> images?  Is it  a reassembled puzzle, many stones or as single mass?  If it 
> does turn out to be a single largest certified lunar mass, I will be the 
> first to offer congratulations.
> 
> In any case, I want everybody to know that I have never misrepresented NWA 
> 5000 and have nothing to do with current claims or events.
> 
> My claim is that NWA 5000 is simply the best and most desirable lunar 
> meteorite found to date which is backed up with facts on my website.
> 
> Adam Hupe
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Barbra Barrett via Meteorite-list" 
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> To: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@cen

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest Lunar [meteorite] Replica

2016-06-15 Thread Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
I do not want to be confused with Greg on the latest round of claims or 
business dealings.  I operate independently.


I only claimed NWA 5000 was the largest Highlands lunar meteorite ever found 
and the largest to ever be put on public display.  This has always been 
clearly stated on my copyrighted website which was created long before Greg 
became involved and needs to be updated..


I give Kalahari 009 the benefit of the doubt on my website, although it has 
never been weight certified or shown in public.  The weight remains 
unofficial and looks to be rounded off or guesstimated to me.  Some doubt 
its existence or that it is even lunar.  I have never seen it, know very 
little about it, don't like how it was managed and have very little interest 
in it.


Link to my NWA 5000 Website:
http://themeteoritesite.com/


For the record, I created the mold and casting system for the NWA 5000 main 
mass and maintain all the rights; artistic, intellectual, copyrighted and 
otherwise.  I authorized one additional casting to be used for promotional 
purposes only and not to be resold.  I spent over 200 hours designing and 
creating a near perfect mold of the complete NWA 5000 main mass and a 
procedure for producing castings without bubbles or a noticeable seam.


I have a few questions in regards to NWA 10495:.

I do not recall seeing images of NWA 10495 which is claimed to weigh 12.120 
kg.   Has it been weight certified in front of witnesses and are there any 
images?  Is it  a reassembled puzzle, many stones or as single mass?  If it 
does turn out to be a single largest certified lunar mass, I will be the 
first to offer congratulations.


In any case, I want everybody to know that I have never misrepresented NWA 
5000 and have nothing to do with current claims or events.


My claim is that NWA 5000 is simply the best and most desirable lunar 
meteorite found to date which is backed up with facts on my website.


Adam Hupe



- Original Message - 
From: "Barbra Barrett via Meteorite-list" 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>

To: "Greg Hupe" <gmh...@centurylink.net>
Cc: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest 
Lunar [meteorite] Replica






“First congratulations on what has been sold to you and your museum, I am 
very well aware of what you have been sold and the new Maine Mineral 
Museum."


=

Greg,

I had given you the benefit of doubt. Your awareness of our acquisitions 
indicates your knowledge of NWA 10495, making your misrepresentations to 
the list and others all the more troubling.


Sincerely,

Barbra




On Jun 15, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Greg Hupe <gmh...@centurylink.net> wrote:

Welcome to the Meteorite List Barbara!

First congratulations on what has been sold to you and your museum, I am 
very well aware of what you have been sold and the new Maine Mineral 
Museum. I am glad you came out in public asking everyone, including all 
of the Moroccan dealers, to contact you directly to save you money on 
Moroccan purchases! Helps everyone and the Moroccans make more profits!!


Each 'NWA 5000' I offer was individually painted by hand, by an artist, 
therefore each one is unique and a 'One-of-a-Kind' work of art. Plus I 
did much personal hand work on them! Thank you for your interest!


I look forward to visiting your museums treasures when it opens in the 
fall!! :)


Best regards,
Greg Hupe

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 15, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Barbra Barrett 
<bbarr...@mainemineralmuseum.org> wrote:


Greetings to All,

While I have enjoyed reading the posts and have yet to post anything 
myself, I feel compelled to make my first comment.


NWA 5000 is indeed an exquisite lunar meteorite.  However, there are 
bigger lunars.  Kalahari 009 and NWA 10495, both exceed NWA 5000’s 
original mass.  I’m writing now because I have been honored to curate 
the main mass of NWA 10495, which weighs 12.120 kg. Accuracy is 
important and it is impaired by exaggeration.  While bigger doesn’t 
always mean better, when extolling the virtues of the largest lunar 
meteorite...size matters!  Records get broken and we have new 
achievements to celebrate, but it is not right to celebrate NWA 5000 as 
being the largest lunar meteorite found…(and respectfully, nor can there 
be at least three one-of-a-kind works of art).


Barbra Barrett



On Jun 14, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:


Dear List,

I would like to announce the availability of a Limited Edition of the 
'World's Largest Lunar [meteorite] Replica'. When I say "Limited 
Edition", I mean extremely limited! I will be bringing and showing 1 of 
3 (available) Full-size Painted replicas to the Ensisheim Show this 
week. Since each replica was hand painted by a prof

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest Lunar [meteorite] Replica

2016-06-15 Thread Barbra Barrett via Meteorite-list


“First congratulations on what has been sold to you and your museum, I am very 
well aware of what you have been sold and the new Maine Mineral Museum."

=

Greg, 

I had given you the benefit of doubt. Your awareness of our acquisitions 
indicates your knowledge of NWA 10495, making your misrepresentations to the 
list and others all the more troubling. 
 
Sincerely,

Barbra


 
> On Jun 15, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Greg Hupe  wrote:
> 
> Welcome to the Meteorite List Barbara!
> 
> First congratulations on what has been sold to you and your museum, I am very 
> well aware of what you have been sold and the new Maine Mineral Museum. I am 
> glad you came out in public asking everyone, including all of the Moroccan 
> dealers, to contact you directly to save you money on Moroccan purchases! 
> Helps everyone and the Moroccans make more profits!!
> 
> Each 'NWA 5000' I offer was individually painted by hand, by an artist, 
> therefore each one is unique and a 'One-of-a-Kind' work of art. Plus I did 
> much personal hand work on them! Thank you for your interest!
> 
> I look forward to visiting your museums treasures when it opens in the fall!! 
> :)
> 
> Best regards,
> Greg Hupe
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Barbra Barrett 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Greetings to All, 
>> 
>> While I have enjoyed reading the posts and have yet to post anything myself, 
>> I feel compelled to make my first comment.  
>> 
>> NWA 5000 is indeed an exquisite lunar meteorite.  However, there are bigger 
>> lunars.  Kalahari 009 and NWA 10495, both exceed NWA 5000’s original mass.  
>> I’m writing now because I have been honored to curate the main mass of NWA 
>> 10495, which weighs 12.120 kg. Accuracy is important and it is impaired by 
>> exaggeration.  While bigger doesn’t always mean better, when extolling the 
>> virtues of the largest lunar meteorite...size matters!  Records get broken 
>> and we have new achievements to celebrate, but it is not right to celebrate 
>> NWA 5000 as being the largest lunar meteorite found…(and respectfully, nor 
>> can there be at least three one-of-a-kind works of art). 
>> 
>> Barbra Barrett
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear List,
>>> 
>>> I would like to announce the availability of a Limited Edition of the 
>>> 'World's Largest Lunar [meteorite] Replica'. When I say "Limited Edition", 
>>> I mean extremely limited! I will be bringing and showing 1 of 3 (available) 
>>> Full-size Painted replicas to the Ensisheim Show this week. Since each 
>>> replica was hand painted by a professional artist right here in Florida 
>>> they are all One-of-a-Kind works of art!
>>> 
>>> Please see here a sneak peek: 
>>> http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/NWA5000/NWA5000_Replica_Limited-Edition1.jpg
>>> 
>>> See you at the show!
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Greg
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Greg Hupe
>>> The Hupe Collection
>>> gmh...@centurylink.net
>>> www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog & Reference Site)
>>> www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site)
>>> NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest & eBay)
>>> http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault
>>> http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault
>>> IMCA 3163
>>> 
>>> Click here for my current eBay auctions:
>>> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest Lunar [meteorite] Replica

2016-06-15 Thread Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list
Welcome to the Meteorite List Barbara!

First congratulations on what has been sold to you and your museum, I am very 
well aware of what you have been sold and the new Maine Mineral Museum. I am 
glad you came out in public asking everyone, including all of the Moroccan 
dealers, to contact you directly to save you money on Moroccan purchases! Helps 
everyone and the Moroccans make more profits!!

Each 'NWA 5000' I offer was individually painted by hand, by an artist, 
therefore each one is unique and a 'One-of-a-Kind' work of art. Plus I did much 
personal hand work on them! Thank you for your interest!

I look forward to visiting your museums treasures when it opens in the fall!! :)

Best regards,
Greg Hupe

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Barbra Barrett  
> wrote:
> 
> Greetings to All, 
> 
> While I have enjoyed reading the posts and have yet to post anything myself, 
> I feel compelled to make my first comment.  
> 
> NWA 5000 is indeed an exquisite lunar meteorite.  However, there are bigger 
> lunars.  Kalahari 009 and NWA 10495, both exceed NWA 5000’s original mass.  
> I’m writing now because I have been honored to curate the main mass of NWA 
> 10495, which weighs 12.120 kg. Accuracy is important and it is impaired by 
> exaggeration.  While bigger doesn’t always mean better, when extolling the 
> virtues of the largest lunar meteorite...size matters!  Records get broken 
> and we have new achievements to celebrate, but it is not right to celebrate 
> NWA 5000 as being the largest lunar meteorite found…(and respectfully, nor 
> can there be at least three one-of-a-kind works of art). 
> 
> Barbra Barrett
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear List,
>> 
>> I would like to announce the availability of a Limited Edition of the 
>> 'World's Largest Lunar [meteorite] Replica'. When I say "Limited Edition", I 
>> mean extremely limited! I will be bringing and showing 1 of 3 (available) 
>> Full-size Painted replicas to the Ensisheim Show this week. Since each 
>> replica was hand painted by a professional artist right here in Florida they 
>> are all One-of-a-Kind works of art!
>> 
>> Please see here a sneak peek: 
>> http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/NWA5000/NWA5000_Replica_Limited-Edition1.jpg
>> 
>> See you at the show!
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> Greg
>> 
>> 
>> Greg Hupe
>> The Hupe Collection
>> gmh...@centurylink.net
>> www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog & Reference Site)
>> www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site)
>> NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest & eBay)
>> http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault
>> http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault
>> IMCA 3163
>> 
>> Click here for my current eBay auctions:
>> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest Lunar [meteorite] Replica

2016-06-15 Thread Barbra Barrett via Meteorite-list
Greetings to All, 

While I have enjoyed reading the posts and have yet to post anything myself, I 
feel compelled to make my first comment.  

NWA 5000 is indeed an exquisite lunar meteorite.  However, there are bigger 
lunars.  Kalahari 009 and NWA 10495, both exceed NWA 5000’s original mass.  I’m 
writing now because I have been honored to curate the main mass of NWA 10495, 
which weighs 12.120 kg. Accuracy is important and it is impaired by 
exaggeration.  While bigger doesn’t always mean better, when extolling the 
virtues of the largest lunar meteorite...size matters!  Records get broken and 
we have new achievements to celebrate, but it is not right to celebrate NWA 
5000 as being the largest lunar meteorite found…(and respectfully, nor can 
there be at least three one-of-a-kind works of art). 

Barbra Barrett



> On Jun 14, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear List,
> 
> I would like to announce the availability of a Limited Edition of the 
> 'World's Largest Lunar [meteorite] Replica'. When I say "Limited Edition", I 
> mean extremely limited! I will be bringing and showing 1 of 3 (available) 
> Full-size Painted replicas to the Ensisheim Show this week. Since each 
> replica was hand painted by a professional artist right here in Florida they 
> are all One-of-a-Kind works of art!
> 
> Please see here a sneak peek: 
> http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/NWA5000/NWA5000_Replica_Limited-Edition1.jpg
> 
> See you at the show!
> 
> Best Regards,
> Greg
> 
> 
> Greg Hupe
> The Hupe Collection
> gmh...@centurylink.net
> www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog & Reference Site)
> www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site)
> NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest & eBay)
> http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault
> http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault
> IMCA 3163
> 
> Click here for my current eBay auctions:
> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault
> 
> 
> 
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