Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-alin question

[Martin Altmann]

Hi Jim,

watch the fine film of 1956 here:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/odhenin/download.htm

Tons of shrapnels!!!

Harbarth Buckleboo

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> Has anyone ever heard or seen published anywhere what percentage of the
> Sikhote-alin fall was shrapnel type pieces?
>
> Based upon how this meteorite has been searched and recovered over the
years
> I am sure it would probably just be a guess.
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-alin question

[Darren Garrison]

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 03:36:00 +0200, "Martin Altmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi Jim,
>
>watch the fine film of 1956 here:
>http://perso.wanadoo.fr/odhenin/download.htm
>

Uh, there wouldn't happen to be an English subtitle file for this, would there?
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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-alin question

[moni waiblinger-seabridge]

Thank you, Martin for the 'fine film'.

I just watched it and loved it!

Sternengruss, Moni





From: "Martin Altmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Martin Altmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-alin question
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 03:36:00 +0200

Hi Jim,

watch the fine film of 1956 here:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/odhenin/download.htm

Tons of shrapnels!!!

Harbarth Buckleboo




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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin question

[Dippl Family]

Serge you are a gentleman. I am sure your english is far better than most of 
our russian. I am thinking that vodka niet and da is about as far as most of 
us go.

regards from Australia.
Peter Dippl
- Original Message - 
From: "Sergey Vasiliev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 5:07 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin question



Hello List,

It was a request yesterday about English subtitles for Sikhote-Alin movie.

I decided to play a little bit here. So I created some subtitles for a 
part

of the movie.
I cut the end of the movie and kept the only part with field works.
I want you not to judge me so much because that was my first experience 
with

this software. I translated sentence by sentence from the voice behind the
screen. I also used an online translator from Russian to English. It paid
off as long as I wanted to do this job fast to see if I'm able to create
something like that. Of course I modified sentences but not all of them 
and
not perfect. Actually I can't modify them perfect as long as my own 
English

is far away from perfect ;-)
Also for some reason the software changed the size of the file (and screen
resolution) so now the file is about 70Mb (was 56Mb) and instead of actual
320x240 I have 640x480.
You can switch your player to 50% view and it will be the same quality as
original (I guess ;-)).
One more time: that was my first try with this software and correction of
video files at all.
I played for 9 hours but I can see now that I can do it! That was a fun 
for

me yesterday!

If somebody thinks that I should try more and keep translating the rest of
the movie (some nice meteorites from great collection of Russian academy 
of

sciences are showing on the end of it without translation) I can find some
time later to do this. But I think that first part must be re-done to be
more readable. If somebody has an interest to help me with this please 
send

me your thoughts of how subtitles must be written.

I will try to get the file back to the original resolution later also. 
That
should reduce the size of the file. The file is in the same format as it 
was

(.wmv).

The movie with subtitles is ready for download here:
http://sv-meteorites.jodoshared.com/movie/SikhoteAlin_Short.WMV

Enjoy!
Sergey


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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin question

[M come Meteorite Meteorites]

a very good work

Matteo

--- Sergey Vasiliev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha
scritto: 

> Hello List,
> 
> It was a request yesterday about English subtitles
> for Sikhote-Alin movie.
> 
> I decided to play a little bit here. So I created
> some subtitles for a part
> of the movie.
> I cut the end of the movie and kept the only part
> with field works.
> I want you not to judge me so much because that was
> my first experience with
> this software. I translated sentence by sentence
> from the voice behind the
> screen. I also used an online translator from
> Russian to English. It paid
> off as long as I wanted to do this job fast to see
> if I'm able to create
> something like that. Of course I modified sentences
> but not all of them and
> not perfect. Actually I can't modify them perfect as
> long as my own English
> is far away from perfect ;-)
> Also for some reason the software changed the size
> of the file (and screen
> resolution) so now the file is about 70Mb (was 56Mb)
> and instead of actual
> 320x240 I have 640x480.
> You can switch your player to 50% view and it will
> be the same quality as
> original (I guess ;-)).
> One more time: that was my first try with this
> software and correction of
> video files at all.
> I played for 9 hours but I can see now that I can do
> it! That was a fun for
> me yesterday!
> 
> If somebody thinks that I should try more and keep
> translating the rest of
> the movie (some nice meteorites from great
> collection of Russian academy of
> sciences are showing on the end of it without
> translation) I can find some
> time later to do this. But I think that first part
> must be re-done to be
> more readable. If somebody has an interest to help
> me with this please send
> me your thoughts of how subtitles must be written.
> 
> I will try to get the file back to the original
> resolution later also. That
> should reduce the size of the file. The file is in
> the same format as it was
> (.wmv).
> 
> The movie with subtitles is ready for download here:
>
http://sv-meteorites.jodoshared.com/movie/SikhoteAlin_Short.WMV
> 
> Enjoy!
> Sergey
> 
> 
> Sergey Vasiliev
> U Dalnice 839
> Prague 5, 15500
> Czech Republic
> http://www.sv-meteorites.com
> 
> 
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RE: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin question

[mark ford]

Sergey,

Outstanding bit of work, welldone!! Congratualtions, you have done the
meteorite world a great service.

The film really comes to life when one can actually understand it!

Best,
Mark Ford




-Original Message-
From: Sergey Vasiliev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 8:37 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin question

Hello List,

It was a request yesterday about English subtitles for Sikhote-Alin
movie.

I decided to play a little bit here. So I created some subtitles for a
part
of the movie.
I cut the end of the movie and kept the only part with field works.
I want you not to judge me so much because that was my first experience
with
this software. I translated sentence by sentence from the voice behind
the
screen. I also used an online translator from Russian to English. It
paid
off as long as I wanted to do this job fast to see if I'm able to create
something like that. Of course I modified sentences but not all of them
and
not perfect. Actually I can't modify them perfect as long as my own
English
is far away from perfect ;-)
Also for some reason the software changed the size of the file (and
screen
resolution) so now the file is about 70Mb (was 56Mb) and instead of
actual
320x240 I have 640x480.
You can switch your player to 50% view and it will be the same quality
as
original (I guess ;-)).
One more time: that was my first try with this software and correction
of
video files at all.
I played for 9 hours but I can see now that I can do it! That was a fun
for
me yesterday!

If somebody thinks that I should try more and keep translating the rest
of
the movie (some nice meteorites from great collection of Russian academy
of
sciences are showing on the end of it without translation) I can find
some
time later to do this. But I think that first part must be re-done to be
more readable. If somebody has an interest to help me with this please
send
me your thoughts of how subtitles must be written.

I will try to get the file back to the original resolution later also.
That
should reduce the size of the file. The file is in the same format as it
was
(.wmv).

The movie with subtitles is ready for download here:
http://sv-meteorites.jodoshared.com/movie/SikhoteAlin_Short.WMV

Enjoy!
Sergey


Sergey Vasiliev
U Dalnice 839
Prague 5, 15500
Czech Republic
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RE: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin question

[Pete Pete]

EXCELLENT!

I would really like to see the rest translated, if you ever find the time. 
I'm sure your translated version will be on every meteorite enthusiast's 
hard drive.


If you decide to make it your personal project and perfect it, there was one 
typo I noticed: "carter" instead of "The whole crater field!" at the 3:42 
mark.


Thanks, Sergey!
If we ever meet, I'll buy you a beer!

Pete

From: "Sergey Vasiliev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin question
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:37:05 +0200

Hello List,

It was a request yesterday about English subtitles for Sikhote-Alin movie.

I decided to play a little bit here. So I created some subtitles for a part
of the movie.
I cut the end of the movie and kept the only part with field works.
I want you not to judge me so much because that was my first experience with
this software. I translated sentence by sentence from the voice behind the
screen. I also used an online translator from Russian to English. It paid
off as long as I wanted to do this job fast to see if I'm able to create
something like that. Of course I modified sentences but not all of them and
not perfect. Actually I can't modify them perfect as long as my own English
is far away from perfect ;-)
Also for some reason the software changed the size of the file (and screen
resolution) so now the file is about 70Mb (was 56Mb) and instead of actual
320x240 I have 640x480.
You can switch your player to 50% view and it will be the same quality as
original (I guess ;-)).
One more time: that was my first try with this software and correction of
video files at all.
I played for 9 hours but I can see now that I can do it! That was a fun for
me yesterday!

If somebody thinks that I should try more and keep translating the rest of
the movie (some nice meteorites from great collection of Russian academy of
sciences are showing on the end of it without translation) I can find some
time later to do this. But I think that first part must be re-done to be
more readable. If somebody has an interest to help me with this please send
me your thoughts of how subtitles must be written.

I will try to get the file back to the original resolution later also. That
should reduce the size of the file. The file is in the same format as it was
(.wmv).

The movie with subtitles is ready for download here:
http://sv-meteorites.jodoshared.com/movie/SikhoteAlin_Short.WMV

Enjoy!
Sergey


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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin question

[Dawn & Gerald Flaherty]

Sergey, What a nice early morning present. Thanks for you time and effort.
No apology necessary. Nice work!
Jerry Flaherty
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From: "Sergey Vasiliev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 3:37 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin question


> Hello List,
>
> It was a request yesterday about English subtitles for Sikhote-Alin movie.
>
> I decided to play a little bit here. So I created some subtitles for a
part
> of the movie.
> I cut the end of the movie and kept the only part with field works.
> I want you not to judge me so much because that was my first experience
with
> this software. I translated sentence by sentence from the voice behind the
> screen. I also used an online translator from Russian to English. It paid
> off as long as I wanted to do this job fast to see if I'm able to create
> something like that. Of course I modified sentences but not all of them
and
> not perfect. Actually I can't modify them perfect as long as my own
English
> is far away from perfect ;-)
> Also for some reason the software changed the size of the file (and screen
> resolution) so now the file is about 70Mb (was 56Mb) and instead of actual
> 320x240 I have 640x480.
> You can switch your player to 50% view and it will be the same quality as
> original (I guess ;-)).
> One more time: that was my first try with this software and correction of
> video files at all.
> I played for 9 hours but I can see now that I can do it! That was a fun
for
> me yesterday!
>
> If somebody thinks that I should try more and keep translating the rest of
> the movie (some nice meteorites from great collection of Russian academy
of
> sciences are showing on the end of it without translation) I can find some
> time later to do this. But I think that first part must be re-done to be
> more readable. If somebody has an interest to help me with this please
send
> me your thoughts of how subtitles must be written.
>
> I will try to get the file back to the original resolution later also.
That
> should reduce the size of the file. The file is in the same format as it
was
> (.wmv).
>
> The movie with subtitles is ready for download here:
> http://sv-meteorites.jodoshared.com/movie/SikhoteAlin_Short.WMV
>
> Enjoy!
> Sergey
>
> 
> Sergey Vasiliev
> U Dalnice 839
> Prague 5, 15500
> Czech Republic
> http://www.sv-meteorites.com
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin question

[Darren Garrison]

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:37:05 +0200, "Sergey Vasiliev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hello List,
>
>It was a request yesterday about English subtitles for Sikhote-Alin movie.
>
>I decided to play a little bit here. So I created some subtitles for a part
>of the movie.

Thanks for making the time and effort to provide a translation (which I haven't 
seen yet because it
is still downloading).

There is, though, an easier way to make the subtitles available to everyone.  
There are several
formats now for "soft" or software subtitles, which are stored in a seperate 
file.  Some of the
formats are as simple as text files that contain the text plus the time index 
of when the line that
was translated was said.  The subtitle file is then saved with the same name as 
the video file, but
with a different extension-- for example, if the movie is call sikhote.avi, the 
subtitle would be
sikhote.srt.  Some media players (such as the beyond excellent freeware Media 
Player Classic) can
read these subtitle files directly, and there are various small helper 
applications to allow other
media players to read the file.  Using this method, you don't have to re-encode 
video, and you don't
have to have the space and bandwidth to allow people to download translations, 
and people don't have
to have the bandwidth to download new versions of the film.  I use these all 
the time when watching
foriegn language movies with no "official" English translation.

Here's a small clip of a random SRT file that I still have on my hard drive (it 
happens to be from
the Japanese move Azumi 2: Death or Love, just for the record).  See the 
syntax-- it is a plain-text
file saved with the extension .srt.  You number each line, put the time index 
to start displaying
the subtitle, the time index when you stop displaying the subtitle, and then 
the line to be shown.
No special header or footer text needs to be added at the beginning or end.  It 
would probably end
up being easier to do than whichever software you are using now.


(sample from an SRT file)



1
00:00:11,378 --> 00:00:17,214
Subtitled by FSC
www.fantasticsuperclub.org

2
00:00:43,710 --> 00:00:48,238
Ueto Aya

3
00:00:51,584 --> 00:00:55,418
Ishigaki Yuma

4
00:00:58,024 --> 00:01:01,016
Kuriyama Chisaki

5
00:01:03,163 --> 00:01:06,132
Oguri

6
00:01:08,301 --> 00:01:11,600
Kaneko Syusuke

7
00:02:18,371 --> 00:02:19,998
They've increased in number

8
00:02:20,607 --> 00:02:24,168
Five from the west
Five from the south

9
00:02:26,946 --> 00:02:29,540
Who the hell are
these persistent guys?

10
00:02:29,749 --> 00:02:33,241
We're assassins who've
killed many people

11
00:02:33,486 --> 00:02:36,080
It's obvious
that we're marked

12
00:02:36,856 --> 00:02:38,346
That's true

13
00:02:38,892 --> 00:02:40,189
Let's go!

14
00:02:50,904 --> 00:02:52,303
They're coming...

15
00:03:16,930 --> 00:03:19,398
You're rats
caught in our fangs
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin question

[Michael L Blood]

Thanks, Sergey - great work!
For years I had admired this fall & I even bought the terrific
painting by Jerry Armstrong, "SIKHOTE-ALIN: GROUND ZERO" and
put it atop my on line catalog. After all these years it is great to see
the actual site and the original search conducted there. Seeing is
certainly a different experience from reading about it.
Thanks! Michael


on 8/12/05 12:37 AM, Sergey Vasiliev at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello List,
> 
> It was a request yesterday about English subtitles for Sikhote-Alin movie.
> 
> I decided to play a little bit here. So I created some subtitles for a part
> of the movie.
> I cut the end of the movie and kept the only part with field works.
> I want you not to judge me so much because that was my first experience with
> this software. I translated sentence by sentence from the voice behind the
> screen. I also used an online translator from Russian to English. It paid
> off as long as I wanted to do this job fast to see if I'm able to create
> something like that. Of course I modified sentences but not all of them and
> not perfect. Actually I can't modify them perfect as long as my own English
> is far away from perfect ;-)
> Also for some reason the software changed the size of the file (and screen
> resolution) so now the file is about 70Mb (was 56Mb) and instead of actual
> 320x240 I have 640x480.
> You can switch your player to 50% view and it will be the same quality as
> original (I guess ;-)).
> One more time: that was my first try with this software and correction of
> video files at all.
> I played for 9 hours but I can see now that I can do it! That was a fun for
> me yesterday!
> 
> If somebody thinks that I should try more and keep translating the rest of
> the movie (some nice meteorites from great collection of Russian academy of
> sciences are showing on the end of it without translation) I can find some
> time later to do this. But I think that first part must be re-done to be
> more readable. If somebody has an interest to help me with this please send
> me your thoughts of how subtitles must be written.
> 
> I will try to get the file back to the original resolution later also. That
> should reduce the size of the file. The file is in the same format as it was
> (.wmv).
> 
> The movie with subtitles is ready for download here:
> http://sv-meteorites.jodoshared.com/movie/SikhoteAlin_Short.WMV
> 
> Enjoy!
> Sergey
> 
> 
> Sergey Vasiliev
> U Dalnice 839
> Prague 5, 15500
> Czech Republic
> http://www.sv-meteorites.com
> 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin question

[MarkF]

Sergey, that was really good! Thankyou

Mark Ferguson

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From: "Sergey Vasiliev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 3:37 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin question



Hello List,

It was a request yesterday about English subtitles for Sikhote-Alin movie.

I decided to play a little bit here. So I created some subtitles for a 
part

of the movie.
I cut the end of the movie and kept the only part with field works.
I want you not to judge me so much because that was my first experience 
with

this software. I translated sentence by sentence from the voice behind the
screen. I also used an online translator from Russian to English. It paid
off as long as I wanted to do this job fast to see if I'm able to create
something like that. Of course I modified sentences but not all of them 
and
not perfect. Actually I can't modify them perfect as long as my own 
English

is far away from perfect ;-)
Also for some reason the software changed the size of the file (and screen
resolution) so now the file is about 70Mb (was 56Mb) and instead of actual
320x240 I have 640x480.
You can switch your player to 50% view and it will be the same quality as
original (I guess ;-)).
One more time: that was my first try with this software and correction of
video files at all.
I played for 9 hours but I can see now that I can do it! That was a fun 
for

me yesterday!

If somebody thinks that I should try more and keep translating the rest of
the movie (some nice meteorites from great collection of Russian academy 
of

sciences are showing on the end of it without translation) I can find some
time later to do this. But I think that first part must be re-done to be
more readable. If somebody has an interest to help me with this please 
send

me your thoughts of how subtitles must be written.

I will try to get the file back to the original resolution later also. 
That
should reduce the size of the file. The file is in the same format as it 
was

(.wmv).

The movie with subtitles is ready for download here:
http://sv-meteorites.jodoshared.com/movie/SikhoteAlin_Short.WMV

Enjoy!
Sergey


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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin question

[Wilton Carvalho]

Hi Sergey,

Thank you for translating the Sikhote-Alin movie.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Sergey Vasiliev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 4:37 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin question



Hello List,

It was a request yesterday about English subtitles for Sikhote-Alin movie.

I decided to play a little bit here. So I created some subtitles for a 
part

of the movie.
I cut the end of the movie and kept the only part with field works.
I want you not to judge me so much because that was my first experience 
with

this software. I translated sentence by sentence from the voice behind the
screen. I also used an online translator from Russian to English. It paid
off as long as I wanted to do this job fast to see if I'm able to create
something like that. Of course I modified sentences but not all of them 
and
not perfect. Actually I can't modify them perfect as long as my own 
English

is far away from perfect ;-)
Also for some reason the software changed the size of the file (and screen
resolution) so now the file is about 70Mb (was 56Mb) and instead of actual
320x240 I have 640x480.
You can switch your player to 50% view and it will be the same quality as
original (I guess ;-)).
One more time: that was my first try with this software and correction of
video files at all.
I played for 9 hours but I can see now that I can do it! That was a fun 
for

me yesterday!

If somebody thinks that I should try more and keep translating the rest of
the movie (some nice meteorites from great collection of Russian academy 
of

sciences are showing on the end of it without translation) I can find some
time later to do this. But I think that first part must be re-done to be
more readable. If somebody has an interest to help me with this please 
send

me your thoughts of how subtitles must be written.

I will try to get the file back to the original resolution later also. 
That
should reduce the size of the file. The file is in the same format as it 
was

(.wmv).

The movie with subtitles is ready for download here:
http://sv-meteorites.jodoshared.com/movie/SikhoteAlin_Short.WMV

Enjoy!
Sergey


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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin question

[tett]

Sergey,

Thanks for all this work.  It was wonderful to watch this movie and 
understand the commentary.


Has given me an itch to pick up another Sikhote. ;>)

Cheers,

tett
Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada


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To: 
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 3:37 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin question



Hello List,

It was a request yesterday about English subtitles for Sikhote-Alin movie.

I decided to play a little bit here. So I created some subtitles for a 
part

of the movie.
I cut the end of the movie and kept the only part with field works.
I want you not to judge me so much because that was my first experience 
with

this software. I translated sentence by sentence from the voice behind the
screen. I also used an online translator from Russian to English. It paid
off as long as I wanted to do this job fast to see if I'm able to create
something like that. Of course I modified sentences but not all of them 
and
not perfect. Actually I can't modify them perfect as long as my own 
English

is far away from perfect ;-)
Also for some reason the software changed the size of the file (and screen
resolution) so now the file is about 70Mb (was 56Mb) and instead of actual
320x240 I have 640x480.
You can switch your player to 50% view and it will be the same quality as
original (I guess ;-)).
One more time: that was my first try with this software and correction of
video files at all.
I played for 9 hours but I can see now that I can do it! That was a fun 
for

me yesterday!

If somebody thinks that I should try more and keep translating the rest of
the movie (some nice meteorites from great collection of Russian academy 
of

sciences are showing on the end of it without translation) I can find some
time later to do this. But I think that first part must be re-done to be
more readable. If somebody has an interest to help me with this please 
send

me your thoughts of how subtitles must be written.

I will try to get the file back to the original resolution later also. 
That
should reduce the size of the file. The file is in the same format as it 
was

(.wmv).

The movie with subtitles is ready for download here:
http://sv-meteorites.jodoshared.com/movie/SikhoteAlin_Short.WMV

Enjoy!
Sergey


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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Question

[star-bits]

Excellent Bernd!!   That sounds just like what it is.   There is no obvious 
troilite showing so maybe it was part of the half that split off this piece.   
Thanks for your always informative posts.

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=230002162891>

OK, ... taking a stab at what it might be. If it is NOT one of those
impact-produced surface craters that McHone and M. Killgore describe
in "Impact-produced surface craters on Sikhote-Alin irons" (cp. MAPS
33-4, Supplement, 1998, p. A101), it might be troilite surrounded by
schreibersite + swathing kamacite.

Buchwald wrote about Sikhote-Alin:

"Troilite occurs in minor amounts, mostly associated with the
schreibersite skeleton crystals which in many instances may have
nucleated upon the troilite. The troilite forms 1-10 mm nodules
and lenticular bodies. In most cases it forms the central part
of cm-sized, intricate, lace-like textures where schreibersite
filaments and hieroglyphs radiate from the troilite in structures
that suggest coarse-grained eutectics (+). Similar structures are
present in, e.g., Sao Juliao, Sandia Mountains and  S a n t a
L u z i a*."

.., and on p. 1074, Buchwald wrote about Santa Luzia*:

BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Iron Meteorites (Univ. of
California, 1975, Vol.3, excerpts from p. 1074):

"Not only is the troilite elongated parallel to the present exterior surface,
but the schreibersite-metal eutectics (+) associated with it also appear to
have formed parallel cylinders 10-40 mm in diameter. Later, swathing kamacite
has grown around these cylinders in the solid state to form concentric shells,
5-15 mm thick. Troilite forms the central part of the cylinders, but, since
it pinches and swells irregularly, it may or may not be present in a given
section perpendicular to the cylinders."

(+) McSWEEN H.Y. (1999) Meteorites and Their Parent Planets
Cambridge University Press, Glossary, p. 290): the liquid that
occurs at the lowest temperature in a chemical system.

So, maybe, we are looking at a cross-section of such a cylinder.

Well, probably not quite as interesting as the ongoing discussion
about fraudulent trade practices, but, anyway, ... my stab ;-)


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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Question

[Jeff Kuyken]

That would make sense Bernd. I initially noticed that it looks like two of
them right next to each other.

>formed parallel cylinders 10-40 mm in diameter

Cheers,

Jeff



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Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 6:38 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Question


Eric wrote:

"Anyone want to take a stab at what it might be.
 I have no good explanations. Here is a link to
 the auction"



OK, ... taking a stab at what it might be. If it is NOT one of those
impact-produced surface craters that McHone and M. Killgore describe
in "Impact-produced surface craters on Sikhote-Alin irons" (cp. MAPS
33-4, Supplement, 1998, p. A101), it might be troilite surrounded by
schreibersite + swathing kamacite.

Buchwald wrote about Sikhote-Alin:

"Troilite occurs in minor amounts, mostly associated with the
schreibersite skeleton crystals which in many instances may have
nucleated upon the troilite. The troilite forms 1-10 mm nodules
and lenticular bodies. In most cases it forms the central part
of cm-sized, intricate, lace-like textures where schreibersite
filaments and hieroglyphs radiate from the troilite in structures
that suggest coarse-grained eutectics (+). Similar structures are
present in, e.g., Sao Juliao, Sandia Mountains and  S a n t a
L u z i a*."

.., and on p. 1074, Buchwald wrote about Santa Luzia*:

BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Iron Meteorites (Univ. of
California, 1975, Vol.3, excerpts from p. 1074):

"Not only is the troilite elongated parallel to the present exterior
surface,
but the schreibersite-metal eutectics (+) associated with it also appear to
have formed parallel cylinders 10-40 mm in diameter. Later, swathing
kamacite
has grown around these cylinders in the solid state to form concentric
shells,
5-15 mm thick. Troilite forms the central part of the cylinders, but, since
it pinches and swells irregularly, it may or may not be present in a given
section perpendicular to the cylinders."

(+) McSWEEN H.Y. (1999) Meteorites and Their Parent Planets
Cambridge University Press, Glossary, p. 290): the liquid that
occurs at the lowest temperature in a chemical system.

So, maybe, we are looking at a cross-section of such a cylinder.

Well, probably not quite as interesting as the ongoing discussion
about fraudulent trade practices, but, anyway, ... my stab ;-)


Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-alin question

[M come Meteorite Meteorites]

type the nodule in my slice?

http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteoritecollection/SikhoteAlin.JPG

Matteo

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: 

> Greetings
> 
>  Last night I listed a bunch of auctions one of
> which was a Sikhote-alin with a 2.5x2 cm circular
> feature in it.   It is kind of like what you would
> expect of a large troilite except the surface (about
> 1-2mm lower than the surrounding surface) appears to
> be solid metal like the schrapnel.   
> 
> This morning I had an email from someone who
> said he had a piece with the same feature and was
> wondering what it was.   Anyone want to take a stab
> at what it might be.   I have no good explanations. 
>  Here is a link to the auction.
> 
>

> 
> --
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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Question

[Martin Horejsi]

Hi All,

I knew I had seen that feature somewhere, but I could not remember at the time.

Anyway I found it. It was in a 0.334g oriented Bensour individual I
have in my collection.

Here are three pics of the piece. While on an entirely different
scale, both in size and class, it does have a striking resemblance to
the feature in the Sikhote-Alin that caused this thread.

http://www.geocities.com/planetwhy/bensour1.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/planetwhy/bensour2.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/planetwhy/bensour3.jpg

Happy contemplating.

Martin




On 27 Jun 2006 20:38:24 UT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Eric wrote:

"Anyone want to take a stab at what it might be.
 I have no good explanations. Here is a link to
 the auction"



OK, ... taking a stab at what it might be. If it is NOT one of those
impact-produced surface craters that McHone and M. Killgore describe
in "Impact-produced surface craters on Sikhote-Alin irons" (cp. MAPS
33-4, Supplement, 1998, p. A101), it might be troilite surrounded by
schreibersite + swathing kamacite.

Buchwald wrote about Sikhote-Alin:

"Troilite occurs in minor amounts, mostly associated with the
schreibersite skeleton crystals which in many instances may have
nucleated upon the troilite. The troilite forms 1-10 mm nodules
and lenticular bodies. In most cases it forms the central part
of cm-sized, intricate, lace-like textures where schreibersite
filaments and hieroglyphs radiate from the troilite in structures
that suggest coarse-grained eutectics (+). Similar structures are
present in, e.g., Sao Juliao, Sandia Mountains and  S a n t a
L u z i a*."

.., and on p. 1074, Buchwald wrote about Santa Luzia*:

BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Iron Meteorites (Univ. of
California, 1975, Vol.3, excerpts from p. 1074):

"Not only is the troilite elongated parallel to the present exterior surface,
but the schreibersite-metal eutectics (+) associated with it also appear to
have formed parallel cylinders 10-40 mm in diameter. Later, swathing kamacite
has grown around these cylinders in the solid state to form concentric shells,
5-15 mm thick. Troilite forms the central part of the cylinders, but, since
it pinches and swells irregularly, it may or may not be present in a given
section perpendicular to the cylinders."

(+) McSWEEN H.Y. (1999) Meteorites and Their Parent Planets
Cambridge University Press, Glossary, p. 290): the liquid that
occurs at the lowest temperature in a chemical system.

So, maybe, we are looking at a cross-section of such a cylinder.

Well, probably not quite as interesting as the ongoing discussion
about fraudulent trade practices, but, anyway, ... my stab ;-)


Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Question

[M come Meteorite Meteorites]

and of this what you say?

http://www.mcomemeteorite.it/images/SikhoteAlingr.2162.JPG

Matteo

--- Martin Horejsi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha
scritto: 

> Hi All,
> 
> I knew I had seen that feature somewhere, but I
> could not remember at the time.
> 
> Anyway I found it. It was in a 0.334g oriented
> Bensour individual I
> have in my collection.
> 
> Here are three pics of the piece. While on an
> entirely different
> scale, both in size and class, it does have a
> striking resemblance to
> the feature in the Sikhote-Alin that caused this
> thread.
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/planetwhy/bensour1.jpg
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/planetwhy/bensour2.jpg
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/planetwhy/bensour3.jpg
> 
> Happy contemplating.
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 27 Jun 2006 20:38:24 UT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Eric wrote:
> >
> > "Anyone want to take a stab at what it might be.
> >  I have no good explanations. Here is a link to
> >  the auction"
> >
> >
>

> >
> > OK, ... taking a stab at what it might be. If it
> is NOT one of those
> > impact-produced surface craters that McHone and M.
> Killgore describe
> > in "Impact-produced surface craters on
> Sikhote-Alin irons" (cp. MAPS
> > 33-4, Supplement, 1998, p. A101), it might be
> troilite surrounded by
> > schreibersite + swathing kamacite.
> >
> > Buchwald wrote about Sikhote-Alin:
> >
> > "Troilite occurs in minor amounts, mostly
> associated with the
> > schreibersite skeleton crystals which in many
> instances may have
> > nucleated upon the troilite. The troilite forms
> 1-10 mm nodules
> > and lenticular bodies. In most cases it forms the
> central part
> > of cm-sized, intricate, lace-like textures where
> schreibersite
> > filaments and hieroglyphs radiate from the
> troilite in structures
> > that suggest coarse-grained eutectics (+). Similar
> structures are
> > present in, e.g., Sao Juliao, Sandia Mountains and
>  S a n t a
> > L u z i a*."
> >
> > .., and on p. 1074, Buchwald wrote about Santa
> Luzia*:
> >
> > BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Iron Meteorites (Univ. of
> > California, 1975, Vol.3, excerpts from p. 1074):
> >
> > "Not only is the troilite elongated parallel to
> the present exterior surface,
> > but the schreibersite-metal eutectics (+)
> associated with it also appear to
> > have formed parallel cylinders 10-40 mm in
> diameter. Later, swathing kamacite
> > has grown around these cylinders in the solid
> state to form concentric shells,
> > 5-15 mm thick. Troilite forms the central part of
> the cylinders, but, since
> > it pinches and swells irregularly, it may or may
> not be present in a given
> > section perpendicular to the cylinders."
> >
> > (+) McSWEEN H.Y. (1999) Meteorites and Their
> Parent Planets
> > Cambridge University Press, Glossary, p. 290): the
> liquid that
> > occurs at the lowest temperature in a chemical
> system.
> >
> > So, maybe, we are looking at a cross-section of
> such a cylinder.
> >
> > Well, probably not quite as interesting as the
> ongoing discussion
> > about fraudulent trade practices, but, anyway, ...
> my stab ;-)
> >
> >
> > Bernd
> >
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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-alin question

[Matt Morgan]

Those are probably the crystal face boundaries that have been burned 
out. Seen that before.

Matt

Jim Strope wrote:


Hi All.

I just sold a 116 gram Sikhote-alin which has an unusual feature that 
the customer noticed and I had no explaination for.  Take a look at 
the following photograph.  Notice the two parallel lines on the left 
hand toward the middle.  Does anyone have a guess as to what they may 
be or what caused them?  They are not saw marks 


http://209.238.151.128/sa116d.JPG

Thanks 

Jim Strope
421 Fourth Street
Glen Dale, WV  26038

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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-alin question

[Jim Strope]

Thanks Matt

I knew that there had to be plenty of people on this list smarter than me 
!!!  I will forward the answer to the buyer.


Best Wishes

Jim Strope
421 Fourth Street
Glen Dale, WV  26038

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Those are probably the crystal face boundaries that have been burned out. 
Seen that before.

Matt

Jim Strope wrote:


Hi All.

I just sold a 116 gram Sikhote-alin which has an unusual feature that the 
customer noticed and I had no explaination for.  Take a look at the 
following photograph.  Notice the two parallel lines on the left hand 
toward the middle.  Does anyone have a guess as to what they may be or 
what caused them?  They are not saw marks 


http://209.238.151.128/sa116d.JPG

Thanks 

Jim Strope
421 Fourth Street
Glen Dale, WV  26038

http://www.sikhote-alin.com


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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-alin question

[bernd . pauli]

Hi again,

On page 1128, Buchwald calls these features "octahedral parting".
On page 1129, there is a picture of a 4.4 kg fragment from impact
hole no. 30 with a fracture that follows Widmanstaetten boundaries.

Reference:

BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Iron Meteorites, Vol. 3

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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-alin question

[Darren Garrison]

On 03 Nov 2005 19:21:55 UT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Hi again,
>
>On page 1128, Buchwald calls these features "octahedral parting".
>On page 1129, there is a picture of a 4.4 kg fragment from impact
>hole no. 30 with a fracture that follows Widmanstaetten boundaries.
>

If anyone's interested, I notice that there's a piece on Ebay right now showing 
that feature:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6579874323
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