Re: [meteorite-list] Unconscious Ideomotor Response Test

2010-10-22 Thread Michael Blood
According to Jung, ultimately, we all know everything.
Those devoted exclusively to logic are as blind as those devoted
Exclusively to religious dogma.
As the ol' Bard said,  There are more things in heaven and earth,
Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
'nuff said, Michael


On 10/21/10 6:49 AM, JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com
wrote:

 Mark:
 That's the  point of the experiment. It's to prove the existence of the
 ideomotor response. I've read the literature, I don't believe in dowsing,
 just the ideomoter reaction to it. When farmers and plumbers find
 underground pipes, they obviously already know where they are.
 
 Phil Whitmer


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Re: [meteorite-list] Unconscious Ideomotor Response Test

2010-10-22 Thread Jerry Flaherty
So as the term educate = to lead out - we struggle to lead and be lead out 
of the mists which cloud our consciousness to a reality beyond..??? as 
Plato's  images on the cave walls lend to confuse.


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According to Jung, ultimately, we all know everything.
   Those devoted exclusively to logic are as blind as those devoted
Exclusively to religious dogma.
   As the ol' Bard said,  There are more things in heaven and earth,
Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
   'nuff said, Michael


On 10/21/10 6:49 AM, JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com
wrote:


Mark:
That's the  point of the experiment. It's to prove the existence of the
ideomotor response. I've read the literature, I don't believe in dowsing,
just the ideomoter reaction to it. When farmers and plumbers find
underground pipes, they obviously already know where they are.

Phil Whitmer



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Re: [meteorite-list] Unconscious Ideomotor Response Test

2010-10-22 Thread Steve Dunklee
ever had a foam cup or plastic bag stick to your hand and refuse to un stick? 
Ever give sombody a shock by sliding your feet on a carpet? Ever had your hair 
stand on end before a lightning strike? Would these electromagnetic occurances 
possibly be ascribed to ideomotor response? Why would it be so hard to believe 
a person can use an antenna to amplify electromagnetic waves and use the 
difference they feel to find differences in field strength and locate objects 
based on the the earths electromagnetic field. Which if I have been reading 
right is strong enough to supply the whole world with unlimited power if we 
could harness it? Its not magick or mojo. Its electromagnetic physics. Power 
companies and people with money have every reason to debunk dowsing. Since the 
same process if discovered and used could supply unlimeted electricity for free 
for everyone.not to mention find iron meteorites. Cheers Steve Dunklee


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Unconscious Ideomotor Response Test

2010-10-21 Thread Mark Ford

Thank you for the video links (that totally disprove dowsing works). You
can clearly see the right hand 'twitching/bending' almost intentionally
as she reaches over the iron!! The rest is just Momentum for sure.

I don't think ANYBODY denies bent rods will cross over objects what is
at issue here is do they do it in direct response to the object or in
response to the human stimulus of seeing or moving over the  object
(because they want it too).

I guarantee you wouldn't be able to find 10 buried iron meteorites
hidden in a ploughed field, (i'll bet half my meteorite collection on
it).


Mark

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Here are two examples of the unconscious ideomotor response in action.
The 
female subject had never heard of dowsing, yet by pure coincidence her 
ideomotor responded the same as mine.


http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x177/cyphor79/?action=viewcurrent=Gi
beonDowsing.mp4

http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x177/cyphor79/?action=viewcurrent=x1
02010015.mp4


I know very well that many scientists consider dowsing as they do
astrology, as a type of ancient superstition. According to my conviction
this is, however, unjustified. The dowsing rod is a simple instrument
which
shows the reaction of the human nervous system to certain factors which
are
unknown to us at this time.
Albert Einstein

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Phil Whitmer



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Re: [meteorite-list] Unconscious Ideomotor Response Test

2010-10-20 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 19:31:56 -0400, you wrote:

Here are two examples of the unconscious ideomotor response in action. The 
female subject had never heard of dowsing, yet by pure coincidence her 
ideomotor responded the same as mine.

In the first video, the woman tilts her left hand slightly inwards from the
wrist at the end of the arc.  In the second, you lean forward at the waist at
the end of the arc.  All this is evidence is the idiotmotor effect.
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