Re: [meteorite-list] wot we need....
Hi, Good idea, to have a single meteorite auction site that [everyone] uses, but my only thoughts on this would be, how exactly would you be able to define 'an honest dealer'? - if you would rely purely on the ebay style 'feedback system' then that's been done - so why not just better filter your search results on ebay? Who would you allow into the forum and who would you not? - Surely if you let just anyone sell in this alternative sales place, it would end up like another ebay, only quieter, alternatively if you only let the big players in then the prices would remain high and I doubt the bargains would appear, so people probably would stick with ebay! what you need is volume of material being sold at once, that's what creates bargain (and thus more people using it), when someone sells 20 slices of the same fall on eBay, and only 10 people want any - that's when a bargain can be had! All actions depend on 'who's in the room' at the end of the day so lots of people looking is what you would need to make it a success. Good idea though, and I agree Ebay has become diluted with tat, (but caution - some of that tat is just like what we used to buy when we first started out!). Mark From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Harris Sent: 01 December 2006 21:46 To: Alexander Seidel; metlist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] wot we need Thanks Alex - glad you cleared that up - of course - this is what I was sort of meaning - a place for good prices, honest materials and accredited dealers in a safe forum. Of course, a bargain is exactly that - a bargain (or, as you said it wouldn't be a bargain, but the actual price!) I guess I was just thinking aloud about an alternative sales place to Fleabay - not to take away from dealers' sites and thier customer base, of course, just an alternative to eBay! Best from cold, dank Brighton! dave ---Original Message--- From: Alexander Seidel Date: 12/01/06 21:13:34 To: Dave Harris; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] wot we need Dear Dave, no bad intention, of course! What I just meant to say was: the price has to be fair, a bargain may a bargain, but a bargain is not the LAW, it is the EXCEPTION (...as else it would not be a "bargain" by definition..:-)). We small little creatures on this very Earth all wish to survive some way or the other, and everyone should have his/her little fortune, but when it comes down to e.g. such a tiny little issue as aquiring a meteorite from dealer xyz, the whole system of fairness of trade for ALL the participants in a contract should still be active and workable for the future. And btw: you will always find strange people in every market place, may they be Big Brains from windy cities or odd Mars sellers from elsewhere. This is what you can´t avoid even with a good intention of creating any new list... Best wishes again, Alex Berlin/Germany > not sure what to make of this email - I cannot tell if you are being > flippant or funny > > No - I am very much a realist, and I like a bargain as much as the rest - > and I am NOT going to get drawn into some sort of discussion that I do > not > want to. > I do not need to be told to "think twice" thanks - I have had enough > experience buying (and selling) small fry for my little collection > Would you have sold me a 30g slice of PV for $175 if I was to ask you > (assuming you had it in stock)? Probably not. > So I am going to avoid answering anything else on this idea as I do not > want > a flame war - it was a thought and I am grateful for some of the input I > have been getting. > > Thanks > > dave > > > > ---Original Message------- > > From: Alexander Seidel > Date: 12/01/06 20:42:01 > To: Dave Harris; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] wot we need > > > maybe I didn't negotiate hard enough, but I think the best I got is free > > shipping - at least Fleabay allowed me to grab bargains (like the 30g PV > > slice for $175). Just thinking aloud I guess...! > > Dave, are you one of the people who think the world "ticks" (...or better: > has/had usually to tick") like this? > > (1) A Portales Valley 30 g for $175 (...your example)! > (2) Free shipping of course, the "bargain" should be the standard! > (3) A flight from Berlin to Barcelona for 19.99 Euros (about 25 bucks) > (4) Free beer worldwide, but gotta have German brewing standards > > Think twice! > > Best, > Alex > Berlin/Germany > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] wot we need....
Thanks Alex - glad you cleared that up - of course - this is what I was sort of meaning - a place for good prices, honest materials and accredited dealers in a safe forum. Of course, a bargain is exactly that - a bargain (or, as you said it wouldn t be a bargain, but the actual price!) I guess I was just thinking aloud about an alternative sales place to Fleabay - not to take away from dealers' sites and thier customer base, of course, just an alternative to eBay! Best from cold, dank Brighton! dave ---Original Message--- From: Alexander Seidel Date: 12/01/06 21:13:34 To: Dave Harris; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] wot we need Dear Dave, no bad intention, of course! What I just meant to say was: the price has to be fair, a bargain may a bargain, but a bargain is not the LAW, it is the EXCEPTION (...as else it would not be a "bargain" by definition..:-)). We small little creatures on this very Earth all wish to survive some way or the other, and everyone should have his/her little fortune, but when it comes down to e.g. such a tiny little issue as aquiring a meteorite from dealer xyz, the whole system of fairness of trade for ALL the participants in a contract should still be active and workable for the future. And btw: you will always find strange people in every market place, may they be Big Brains from windy cities or odd Mars sellers from elsewhere. This is what you can´t avoid even with a good intention of creating any new list... Best wishes again, Alex Berlin/Germany > not sure what to make of this email - I cannot tell if you are being > flippant or funny > > No - I am very much a realist, and I like a bargain as much as the rest - > and I am NOT going to get drawn into some sort of discussion that I do > not > want to. > I do not need to be told to "think twice" thanks - I have had enough > experience buying (and selling) small fry for my little collection > Would you have sold me a 30g slice of PV for $175 if I was to ask you > (assuming you had it in stock)? Probably not. > So I am going to avoid answering anything else on this idea as I do not > want > a flame war - it was a thought and I am grateful for some of the input I > have been getting. > > Thanks > > dave > > > > ---Original Message--- > > From: Alexander Seidel > Date: 12/01/06 20:42:01 > To: Dave Harris; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] wot we need > > > maybe I didn't negotiate hard enough, but I think the best I got is free > > shipping - at least Fleabay allowed me to grab bargains (like the 30g PV > > slice for $175). Just thinking aloud I guess...! > > Dave, are you one of the people who think the world "ticks" (...or better: > has/had usually to tick") like this? > > (1) A Portales Valley 30 g for $175 (...your example)! > (2) Free shipping of course, the "bargain" should be the standard! > (3) A flight from Berlin to Barcelona for 19.99 Euros (about 25 bucks) > (4) Free beer worldwide, but gotta have German brewing standards > > Think twice! > > Best, > Alex > Berlin/Germany > IMSTP.gif Description: GIF image __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Dear Dave, no bad intention, of course! What I just meant to say was: the price has to be fair, a bargain may a bargain, but a bargain is not the LAW, it is the EXCEPTION (...as else it would not be a "bargain" by definition..:-)). We small little creatures on this very Earth all wish to survive some way or the other, and everyone should have his/her little fortune, but when it comes down to e.g. such a tiny little issue as aquiring a meteorite from dealer xyz, the whole system of fairness of trade for ALL the participants in a contract should still be active and workable for the future. And btw: you will always find strange people in every market place, may they be Big Brains from windy cities or odd Mars sellers from elsewhere. This is what you can´t avoid even with a good intention of creating any new list... Best wishes again, Alex Berlin/Germany > not sure what to make of this email - I cannot tell if you are being > flippant or funny > > No - I am very much a realist, and I like a bargain as much as the rest - > and I am NOT going to get drawn into some sort of discussion that I do > not > want to. > I do not need to be told to "think twice" thanks - I have had enough > experience buying (and selling) small fry for my little collection > Would you have sold me a 30g slice of PV for $175 if I was to ask you > (assuming you had it in stock)? Probably not. > So I am going to avoid answering anything else on this idea as I do not > want > a flame war - it was a thought and I am grateful for some of the input I > have been getting. > > Thanks > > dave > > > > ---Original Message--- > > From: Alexander Seidel > Date: 12/01/06 20:42:01 > To: Dave Harris; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] wot we need > > > maybe I didn't negotiate hard enough, but I think the best I got is free > > shipping - at least Fleabay allowed me to grab bargains (like the 30g PV > > slice for $175). Just thinking aloud I guess...! > > Dave, are you one of the people who think the world "ticks" (...or better: > has/had usually to tick") like this? > > (1) A Portales Valley 30 g for $175 (...your example)! > (2) Free shipping of course, the "bargain" should be the standard! > (3) A flight from Berlin to Barcelona for 19.99 Euros (about 25 bucks) > (4) Free beer worldwide, but gotta have German brewing standards > > Think twice! > > Best, > Alex > Berlin/Germany > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] wot we need....
I was looking towards the idea of a multi-dealer environment rather than just a single dealer, but yep, Michael, you and Anne and loadsa other dealers are fantastic I just had a vision of a Harrods-equivalent environment for meteorites, without all of the klutzes and rubbish sellers who cause so much grief! ---Original Message--- From: Michael L Blood Date: 12/01/06 20:41:42 To: Dave Harris; Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] wot we need Hi Dave, Well, since you asked I have good news for you. Try this site, which is one of the very oldest: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/catalog.htm and http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Hammers.html Which is relatively new but backed 100% by an honest dealer with an excellent record. If you don't see what you like at either of these two places, email me directly and let me know what you are looking for and what you want to pay. I have often provided exactly what is asked for, including a photo to verify desirability within 48 hrs. of contact. Best wishes, Michael on 12/1/06 12:05 PM, Dave Harris at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ...is a safe new sales environment outside of Fleabay for meteorites. > Somewhere where buyers and sellers can buy and sell and bid if necessary but > not have any silly £104 for 1g piece of Nantan, where all sales are > moderated and generally a safer environment where listing is free and > none of this silly "I saw God in this Martian meteorite and he told me to > sell it for $30,000,000". > > yep... I am on the case for this 'Eplace' for us and with our collective > efforts we can stop having crap diluting the real stuff from the real > sellers. > > I'll keep you informed if you wish > > Best > dave > IMCA #0092 > Sec. BIMS > www.bimsociety.org > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list IMSTP.gif Description: GIF image __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] wot we need....
not sure what to make of this email - I cannot tell if you are being flippant or funny No - I am very much a realist, and I like a bargain as much as the rest - and I am NOT going to get drawn into some sort of discussion that I do not want to. I do not need to be told to "think twice" thanks - I have had enough experience buying (and selling) small fry for my little collection Would you have sold me a 30g slice of PV for $175 if I was to ask you (assuming you had it in stock)? Probably not. So I am going to avoid answering anything else on this idea as I do not want a flame war - it was a thought and I am grateful for some of the input I have been getting. Thanks dave ---Original Message--- From: Alexander Seidel Date: 12/01/06 20:42:01 To: Dave Harris; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] wot we need > maybe I didn't negotiate hard enough, but I think the best I got is free > shipping - at least Fleabay allowed me to grab bargains (like the 30g PV > slice for $175). Just thinking aloud I guess...! Dave, are you one of the people who think the world "ticks" (...or better: has/had usually to tick") like this? (1) A Portales Valley 30 g for $175 (...your example)! (2) Free shipping of course, the "bargain" should be the standard! (3) A flight from Berlin to Barcelona for 19.99 Euros (about 25 bucks) (4) Free beer worldwide, but gotta have German brewing standards Think twice! Best, Alex Berlin/Germany IMSTP.gif Description: GIF image __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] wot we need....
In a message dated 12/1/2006 1:41:59 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Dave, Well, since you asked I have good news for you. Try this site, which is one of the very oldest: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/catalog.htm and http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Hammers.html Which is relatively new but backed 100% by an honest dealer with an excellent record. If you don't see what you like at either of these two places, email me directly and let me know what you are looking for and what you want to pay. I have often provided exactly what is asked for, including a photo to verify desirability within 48 hrs. of contact. Best wishes, Michael -- -- And that applies to _http://www.impactika.com/metlist.htm_ (http://www.impactika.com/metlist.htm) Give us a try, Dave! You might be surprised. And you won't have to worry about being scammed with a 'wrong:-) Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] wot we need....
> maybe I didn't negotiate hard enough, but I think the best I got is free > shipping - at least Fleabay allowed me to grab bargains (like the 30g PV > slice for $175). Just thinking aloud I guess...! Dave, are you one of the people who think the world "ticks" (...or better: "has/had usually to tick") like this? (1) A Portales Valley 30 g for $175 (...your example)! (2) Free shipping of course, the "bargain" should be the standard! (3) A flight from Berlin to Barcelona for 19.99 Euros (about 25 bucks) (4) Free beer worldwide, but gotta have German brewing standards Think twice! Best, Alex Berlin/Germany __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] wot we need....
Hi Dave, Well, since you asked I have good news for you. Try this site, which is one of the very oldest: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/catalog.htm and http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Hammers.html Which is relatively new but backed 100% by an honest dealer with an excellent record. If you don't see what you like at either of these two places, email me directly and let me know what you are looking for and what you want to pay. I have often provided exactly what is asked for, including a photo to verify desirability within 48 hrs. of contact. Best wishes, Michael on 12/1/06 12:05 PM, Dave Harris at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ...is a safe new sales environment outside of Fleabay for meteorites. > Somewhere where buyers and sellers can buy and sell and bid if necessary but > not have any silly £104 for 1g piece of Nantan, where all sales are > moderated and generally a safer environment where listing is free and > none of this silly "I saw God in this Martian meteorite and he told me to > sell it for $30,000,000". > > yep... I am on the case for this 'Eplace' for us and with our collective > efforts we can stop having crap diluting the real stuff from the real > sellers. > > I'll keep you informed if you wish > > Best > dave > IMCA #0092 > Sec. BIMS > www.bimsociety.org > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] wot we need....
Absolutely! I buy form dealers - but I have to say that not everyone who wants to sell is a dealer so has no way of showcasing thier stuff (me, for example!) And, to be honest, I have not actually got any great deals thru dealers - maybe I didn't negotiate hard enough, but I think the best I got is free shipping - at least Fleabay allowed me to grab bargains (like the 30g PV slice for $175). Just thinking aloud I guess...! ---Original Message--- From: Matt Morgan Date: 12/01/06 20:12:53 To: Dave Harris Cc: metlist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] wot we need Dave, Dave... Why not just buy from dealer's websites like the "ol days"? You know, you do not always HAVE to pay what is asked (even at Wal-Fart). Try bargaining. Most of us relish in it! Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com Dave Harris wrote: > ...is a safe new sales environment outside of Fleabay for meteorites. > Somewhere where buyers and sellers can buy and sell and bid if necessary but > not have any silly £104 for 1g piece of Nantan, where all sales are > moderated and generally a safer environment where listing is free and > none of this silly "I saw God in this Martian meteorite and he told me to > sell it for $30,000,000". > > yep... I am on the case for this 'Eplace' for us and with our collective > efforts we can stop having crap diluting the real stuff from the real > sellers. > > I'll keep you informed if you wish > > Best > dave > IMCA #0092 > Sec. BIMS > www.bimsociety.org > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > -- === Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com ebay id: mhmeteorites IMSTP.gif Description: GIF image __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] wot we need....
Dave, Dave... Why not just buy from dealer's websites like the "ol days"? You know, you do not always HAVE to pay what is asked (even at Wal-Fart). Try bargaining. Most of us relish in it! Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com Dave Harris wrote: > ...is a safe new sales environment outside of Fleabay for meteorites. > Somewhere where buyers and sellers can buy and sell and bid if necessary but > not have any silly £104 for 1g piece of Nantan, where all sales are > moderated and generally a safer environment where listing is free and > none of this silly "I saw God in this Martian meteorite and he told me to > sell it for $30,000,000". > > yep... I am on the case for this 'Eplace' for us and with our collective > efforts we can stop having crap diluting the real stuff from the real > sellers. > > I'll keep you informed if you wish > > Best > dave > IMCA #0092 > Sec. BIMS > www.bimsociety.org > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > -- === Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com ebay id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] wot we need....
Dear Dave; In my opinion, the fleabay and IMCA connection didn't seem to couple together as effectively as some of us had hoped. In the ideal world, it would have been a good answer but in the world of lawyers and lawsuits.well, a seal representing not much from an auction house who cares not all results in, well, not much. I have a george bush toast specimen for sale, it goes well with milk. Dave F Dave Harris wrote: >...is a safe new sales environment outside of Fleabay for meteorites. >Somewhere where buyers and sellers can buy and sell and bid if necessary but >not have any silly £104 for 1g piece of Nantan, where all sales are >moderated and generally a safer environment where listing is free and >none of this silly "I saw God in this Martian meteorite and he told me to >sell it for $30,000,000". > >yep... I am on the case for this 'Eplace' for us and with our collective >efforts we can stop having crap diluting the real stuff from the real >sellers. > >I'll keep you informed if you wish > >Best >dave >IMCA #0092 >Sec. BIMS >www.bimsociety.org >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
