[uf-discuss] microformats for dummies
Hey all, I was wondering how to explain microformats and what it brings to people that have no knowledge of HTML and what html tags are. Normally I would explain it as adding semantics or ontologies to your html tags. But I have to present microformats to a crowd that doesn't have any knowledge of HTML or programing in general and don't know what a HTML tag is in the first place. I could talk about how adding keywords to webpages, invisible to the human eye but visible to the machine so that it can help us accomplish tasks and find data more quickly but that doesn't sound very good. If you have any ideas where I could start I would appreciate greatly. thanx in advance Pat ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
[uf-discuss] hResume use of hCalendar and 'summary' element requirement of vevents
Aloha folks, My hResume marked-up resume at http://jeffmcneill.com/microformats/hresume-jeffmcneill.html is getting validation errors in Operator because I do not have a 'summary' element for the education and service list items. I am using the abr class='title' markup to identify titles and an additional 'summary' would be redundant or unnecessary in terms of information provided. I read in a previous discussion somewhere that 'summary' is not officially required by the iCalendar spec. Would this be a case when it could be disregarded, or is it possible to make it optional as part of hCalendar? Or is there a suggested way of nesting the markup to prevent redundancy? (I would like to point out that in the Allsopp Microformats book on p. 215 there is precisely the 'summary' element missing in the 'vevent education' example in the second list item.) I would be grateful for any thoughts on this. -- Sincerely, Jeff McNeill http://jeffmcneill.com/ ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] microformats for dummies
Pat, I was wondering how to explain microformats and what it brings to people that have no knowledge of HTML and what html tags are. Normally I would explain it as adding semantics or ontologies to your html tags. But I have to present microformats to a crowd that doesn't have any knowledge of HTML or programing in general and don't know what a HTML tag is in the first place point them to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjp4BaJOd0M j ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] microformats for dummies
That's an awesome video, John! Which makes me think that we should ask Lee Lefevre really nicely whether he would put together a 'Microformats In Plain English' video for the community? Usually he charges big bucks, but he's a community guy and may recognize the value in this. For his former work: http://www.commoncraft.com/video-googledocs http://www.commoncraft.com/rss_plain_english http://www.commoncraft.com/video-wikis-plain-english Tara On 10/11/07, John Allsopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pat, I was wondering how to explain microformats and what it brings to people that have no knowledge of HTML and what html tags are. Normally I would explain it as adding semantics or ontologies to your html tags. But I have to present microformats to a crowd that doesn't have any knowledge of HTML or programing in general and don't know what a HTML tag is in the first place point them to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjp4BaJOd0M j ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss -- tara 'miss rogue' hunt co-founder CMO Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com) blog: www.horsepigcow.com phone: 415-694-1951 fax: 415-727-5335 ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] microformats for dummies
Tara, That would be awesome. I have made a shy attempt at it (http://andr3.net/blog/post/104) but my screencasting skills are so very poor! I will leave it to the pros. It would be awesome to have something like those examples for microformats. (and non-english speaking folks) From my own experience, it's not enough to do a video demo. It should be engaging and interesting... so that it would circulate on blogs, emails, etc. And Patrick, I would start with something along the lines of that video. Introduce the general concept, which is to bring out the data in the pages. It's not just pages anymore. We can extract pieces of relevant data from some of them... All you, the users, need to worry about is how you can use this to your advantage. (go on explaining how it's done today) Leave out the technical jargon as much as possible :) Cheers, André Luís On 10/12/07, Tara Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's an awesome video, John! Which makes me think that we should ask Lee Lefevre really nicely whether he would put together a 'Microformats In Plain English' video for the community? Usually he charges big bucks, but he's a community guy and may recognize the value in this. For his former work: http://www.commoncraft.com/video-googledocs http://www.commoncraft.com/rss_plain_english http://www.commoncraft.com/video-wikis-plain-english Tara On 10/11/07, John Allsopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pat, I was wondering how to explain microformats and what it brings to people that have no knowledge of HTML and what html tags are. Normally I would explain it as adding semantics or ontologies to your html tags. But I have to present microformats to a crowd that doesn't have any knowledge of HTML or programing in general and don't know what a HTML tag is in the first place point them to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjp4BaJOd0M j ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss -- tara 'miss rogue' hunt co-founder CMO Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com) blog: www.horsepigcow.com phone: 415-694-1951 fax: 415-727-5335 ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] microformats for dummies
Thanx a lot for your tips, I forgot to mention I can't use visual tools for my presentation (yes that sucks) so if you have something more textual keep it coming :) I did a little fugly screencast a while ago about microformats here: http://ascian.fr/screencasts/microformats.ogg ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
RE: [uf-discuss] microformats for dummies
Patrick, It might not meet the criteria of no html knowledge required, but I like Roger Costello's series of Microformat tutorials. See: http://www.xfront.com/microformats/ -- Chuck Allen Director, HR-XML Consortium, Inc. -- ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
