subject:"\[Mikrotik\] Mikrotik RB411"

Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik RB411

2011-02-06 Thread Scott Reed

For 2.4 I use R52, unless I need better receive sensitivity, then SR2s.
I have RB411s with R52, ,SR2, SR9, and XR9. All work fine below 0
degrees here.

On 2/5/2011 7:37 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
Fascinating. The only radio cards that we've used have been the
Mikrotik ones (R52, R52H, and the "n" versions). I can't recall any
of them failing.

On 2/5/2011 3:49 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
A... we don't run any Mikrotik cards (R52 or R52H)... after the
first batch we got 3 years ago had a 90% failure rate after a few
hours, we went with something else.

Travis

On 2/5/2011 3:01 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:

These are running R52 cards.

Temps were around -10 when they crapped out. Signal dropped and
then they finally failed. I suppose I could try some R52H cards to
see if they warm them up enough.

I'm not the only one who has had these freezing problems. When I
mentioned them to some friends, a whole bunch of related anecdotes
came out.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

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Bet he has MT cards in them which run quite a bit cooler and don't
keep

things as warm... Possibly also got snow discharge that blew them
out... But that's just an educated guess. We now look at the heat
from the UBNT cards as an enclosure heater.

On 02/05/2011 11:24 AM, Erik Turk wrote:

Matt, what kind of Radio card do you have in the 411s?

I've had good luck with 411s, and I've had days this year at -38 -
(when it

gets that cold, fahrenheit and celcius are the same, eh!)

Most of my 411s have XR2 cards.

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Chuck Hogg
wrote:

I have 3-400 hundred in the field and didn't have any failed
issues during

the weather so far this yearand we've been close to 0.

Regards,

Chuck

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Chris Hudson
wrote:

I have probably 500 or more in the field, and when we hit around
0degrees

I
maybe lost 2 or 3. I think one of those was a 411r which are
complete

crap.

Chris

Scott Reed wrote:

I have a couple hundred 411s out as CPE in central Indiana and
have lost
only 3 or 4 since the rain started Tuesday. One had moisture
in the box
as the mPCI contacts were corroded, one the installer
apparently forgot
to put a cover on after the installation so the box is full of
ice. The

others I haven't analyzed as it was just get the customer up.

On 2/5/2011 1:41 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
I just wanted to take this opportunity to mention that the
Mikrotik
RB411 boards are pieces of crap.Half of the ones I have
failed
during the cold spell this last week and it turns out that
lots of
other people have had the same problems.It is very
frustrating to
see that not all of the hardware we use has moved out of the
amateur

stage yet when it comes to quality control and design.

Glad I only ever bought ten of them. They will be getting
replaced

with something reliable real soon.

FWIW, the 411AH boards I have in place have been just fine.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

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Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik RB411

2011-02-05 Thread Josh Luthman

Same.  All r52h then r52hn.
On Feb 5, 2011 7:37 PM, "Bill Prince" 
wrote:
> Fascinating. The only radio cards that we've used have been the
> Mikrotik ones (R52, R52H, and the "n" versions). I can't recall any of
> them failing.
>
> bp
>
>
> On 2/5/2011 3:49 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
>> A... we don't run any Mikrotik cards (R52 or R52H)... after the
>> first batch we got 3 years ago had a 90% failure rate after a few
>> hours, we went with something else.
>>
>> Travis
>>
>>
>> On 2/5/2011 3:01 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
>>> These are running R52 cards.
>>>
>>> Temps were around -10 when they crapped out. Signal dropped and
>>> then they finally failed. I suppose I could try some R52H cards to
>>> see if they warm them up enough.
>>>
>>> I'm not the only one who has had these freezing problems. When I
>>> mentioned them to some friends, a whole bunch of related anecdotes
>>> came out.
>>>
>>> Matt Larsen
>>> vistabeam.com
>>>
>>> On 2/5/2011 1:31 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
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 Bet he has MT cards in them which run quite a bit cooler and don't keep
 things as warm... Possibly also got snow discharge that blew them
 out... But that's just an educated guess. We now look at the heat
 from the UBNT cards as an enclosure heater.

 On 02/05/2011 11:24 AM, Erik Turk wrote:
> Matt, what kind of Radio card do you have in the 411s?
>
> I've had good luck with 411s, and I've had days this year at -38 -
> (when it
> gets that cold, fahrenheit and celcius are the same, eh!)
>
> Most of my 411s have XR2 cards.
>
> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>
>> I have 3-400 hundred in the field and didn't have any failed
>> issues during
>> the weather so far this yearand we've been close to 0.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Chris Hudson
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have probably 500 or more in the field, and when we hit around
>>> 0degrees
>> I
>>> maybe lost 2 or 3. I think one of those was a 411r which are
>>> complete
>> crap.
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> Scott Reed wrote:
>>>
 I have a couple hundred 411s out as CPE in central Indiana and
 have lost
 only 3 or 4 since the rain started Tuesday. One had moisture in
 the box
 as the mPCI contacts were corroded, one the installer apparently
 forgot
 to put a cover on after the installation so the box is full of
 ice. The
 others I haven't analyzed as it was just get the customer up.

 On 2/5/2011 1:41 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
> I just wanted to take this opportunity to mention that the
> Mikrotik
> RB411 boards are pieces of crap. Half of the ones I have failed
> during the cold spell this last week and it turns out that lots of
> other people have had the same problems. It is very
> frustrating to
> see that not all of the hardware we use has moved out of the
> amateur
> stage yet when it comes to quality control and design.
>
> Glad I only ever bought ten of them. They will be getting
> replaced
> with something reliable real soon.
>
> FWIW, the 411AH boards I have in place have been just fine.
>
> Matt Larsen
> vistabeam.com
>
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Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik RB411

2011-02-05 Thread chris

We use R52H pretty much exclusively in our 411's. Occasionally an R5H.

Chris

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Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 5:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik RB411

A... we don't run any Mikrotik cards (R52 or R52H)... after the
first batch we got 3 years ago had a 90% failure rate after a few hours,
we went with something else.

Travis

On 2/5/2011 3:01 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:

These are running R52 cards.

Temps were around -10 when they crapped out.   Signal dropped and then 
they finally failed.   I suppose I could try some R52H cards to see if 
they warm them up enough.

I'm not the only one who has had these freezing problems.   When I 
mentioned them to some friends, a whole bunch of related anecdotes came 
out.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

On 2/5/2011 1:31 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:

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Bet he has MT cards in them which run quite a bit cooler and don't keep
things as warm...  Possibly also got snow discharge that blew them
out...  But that's just an educated guess.   We now look at the heat
from the UBNT cards as an enclosure heater.

On 02/05/2011 11:24 AM, Erik Turk wrote:

Matt, what kind of Radio card do you have in the 411s?

I've had good luck with 411s, and I've had days this year at -38 - (when 
it

gets that cold, fahrenheit and celcius are the same, eh!)

Most of my 411s have XR2 cards.

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:

I have 3-400 hundred in the field and didn't have any failed issues 
during

the weather so far this yearand we've been close to 0.

Regards,

Chuck

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Chris Hudson
wrote:

I have probably 500 or more in the field, and when we hit around 
0degrees

I

maybe lost 2 or 3. I think one of those was a 411r which are complete

crap.

Chris

Scott Reed  wrote:

I have a couple hundred 411s out as CPE in central Indiana and have 
lost
only 3 or 4 since the rain started Tuesday.  One had moisture in the 
box
as the mPCI contacts were corroded, one the installer apparently 
forgot
to put a cover on after the installation so the box is full of ice. 
The

others I haven't analyzed as it was just get the customer up.

On 2/5/2011 1:41 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:

I just wanted to take this opportunity to mention that the Mikrotik
RB411 boards are pieces of crap.Half of the ones I have failed
during the cold spell this last week and it turns out that lots of
other people have had the same problems.It is very frustrating 
to

see that not all of the hardware we use has moved out of the amateur
stage yet when it comes to quality control and design.

Glad I only ever bought ten of them.   They will be getting replaced
with something reliable real soon.

FWIW, the 411AH boards I have in place have been just fine.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

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Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik RB411

2011-02-05 Thread Bill Prince

Fascinating. The only radio cards that we've used have been the
Mikrotik ones (R52, R52H, and the "n" versions). I can't recall any of
them failing.

Travis

On 2/5/2011 3:01 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:

These are running R52 cards.

Temps were around -10 when they crapped out. Signal dropped and
then they finally failed. I suppose I could try some R52H cards to
see if they warm them up enough.

I'm not the only one who has had these freezing problems. When I
mentioned them to some friends, a whole bunch of related anecdotes
came out.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

On 2/5/2011 1:31 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:

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Bet he has MT cards in them which run quite a bit cooler and don't keep
things as warm... Possibly also got snow discharge that blew them
out... But that's just an educated guess. We now look at the heat
from the UBNT cards as an enclosure heater.

On 02/05/2011 11:24 AM, Erik Turk wrote:

Matt, what kind of Radio card do you have in the 411s?

I've had good luck with 411s, and I've had days this year at -38 -
(when it

gets that cold, fahrenheit and celcius are the same, eh!)

Most of my 411s have XR2 cards.

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:

I have 3-400 hundred in the field and didn't have any failed
issues during

the weather so far this yearand we've been close to 0.

Regards,

Chuck

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Chris Hudson
wrote:

I have probably 500 or more in the field, and when we hit around
0degrees

I
maybe lost 2 or 3. I think one of those was a 411r which are
complete

crap.

Chris

Scott Reed wrote:

I have a couple hundred 411s out as CPE in central Indiana and
have lost
only 3 or 4 since the rain started Tuesday. One had moisture in
the box
as the mPCI contacts were corroded, one the installer apparently
forgot
to put a cover on after the installation so the box is full of
ice. The

others I haven't analyzed as it was just get the customer up.

On 2/5/2011 1:41 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
I just wanted to take this opportunity to mention that the
Mikrotik

RB411 boards are pieces of crap.Half of the ones I have failed
during the cold spell this last week and it turns out that lots of
other people have had the same problems.It is very
frustrating to
see that not all of the hardware we use has moved out of the
amateur

stage yet when it comes to quality control and design.

Glad I only ever bought ten of them. They will be getting
replaced

with something reliable real soon.

FWIW, the 411AH boards I have in place have been just fine.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

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Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik RB411

2011-02-05 Thread Travis Johnson

A... we don't run any Mikrotik cards (R52 or R52H)... after the
first batch we got 3 years ago had a 90% failure rate after a few hours,
we went with something else.

Travis

On 2/5/2011 3:01 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:

These are running R52 cards.

Temps were around -10 when they crapped out. Signal dropped and then
they finally failed. I suppose I could try some R52H cards to see if
they warm them up enough.

I'm not the only one who has had these freezing problems. When I
mentioned them to some friends, a whole bunch of related anecdotes
came out.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

On 2/5/2011 1:31 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:

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On 02/05/2011 11:24 AM, Erik Turk wrote:

Matt, what kind of Radio card do you have in the 411s?

I've had good luck with 411s, and I've had days this year at -38 -
(when it

gets that cold, fahrenheit and celcius are the same, eh!)

Most of my 411s have XR2 cards.

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:

I have 3-400 hundred in the field and didn't have any failed issues
during

the weather so far this yearand we've been close to 0.

Regards,

Chuck

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Chris Hudson
wrote:

I have probably 500 or more in the field, and when we hit around
0degrees

maybe lost 2 or 3. I think one of those was a 411r which are complete

crap.

Chris

Scott Reed wrote:

I have a couple hundred 411s out as CPE in central Indiana and
have lost
only 3 or 4 since the rain started Tuesday. One had moisture in
the box
as the mPCI contacts were corroded, one the installer apparently
forgot
to put a cover on after the installation so the box is full of
ice. The

others I haven't analyzed as it was just get the customer up.

On 2/5/2011 1:41 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:

I just wanted to take this opportunity to mention that the Mikrotik
RB411 boards are pieces of crap.Half of the ones I have failed
during the cold spell this last week and it turns out that lots of
other people have had the same problems.It is very
frustrating to
see that not all of the hardware we use has moved out of the
amateur