Re: [Mikrotik] 5betaReleaseXX
I agree, it's silly. Wise decision would be to install ROSv4, which doesn't see almost any hardware on that new Intel platform ;) No ethernet interfaces = no problems :D P.S. We run 5k clients, and it works for them. 25 марта 2011 г. 23:37 пользователь Tristram Cheer mikro...@tristramcheer.com написал: Then your silly or dont really have a big network. We run nearly 100 towers with around 1000 clients and wouldn't dream of putting ROS 5 into production right now, It's simply too buggy and it gets very tiresome every time we report a ROS 4 fault to MT and am told to update to ROS 5.0RCxx I'm betting ROS 5.0 isn't stable enough for production use until late 11Q2 or early 11Q3 2011/3/25 Chupaka chup...@gmail.com What do you mean? =) We have v5.0rc4 working in production. -- Подпись: (добавляется в конце всех исходящих писем) 2011/3/24 Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com On 03/24/2011 01:37 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: I just can't believe what problems there are with all the 5 betas... Not one of the release candidates is work a c...p I can believe it. :-( -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * *NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/89868eda/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/eb871f2b/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110328/a93e76d2/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] 5betaReleaseXX
What do you mean? =) We have v5.0rc4 working in production. -- Подпись: (добавляется в конце всех исходящих писем) 2011/3/24 Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com On 03/24/2011 01:37 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: I just can't believe what problems there are with all the 5 betas... Not one of the release candidates is work a c...p I can believe it. :-( -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * *NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/89868eda/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] 5betaReleaseXX
Then your silly or dont really have a big network. We run nearly 100 towers with around 1000 clients and wouldn't dream of putting ROS 5 into production right now, It's simply too buggy and it gets very tiresome every time we report a ROS 4 fault to MT and am told to update to ROS 5.0RCxx I'm betting ROS 5.0 isn't stable enough for production use until late 11Q2 or early 11Q3 2011/3/25 Chupaka chup...@gmail.com What do you mean? =) We have v5.0rc4 working in production. -- Подпись: (добавляется в конце всех исходящих писем) 2011/3/24 Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com On 03/24/2011 01:37 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: I just can't believe what problems there are with all the 5 betas... Not one of the release candidates is work a c...p I can believe it. :-( -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * *NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/89868eda/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/eb871f2b/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] 5betaReleaseXX
We are running it in production on at least 5 of our main routers (biggest one is moving 800Mbps of traffic). Travis Microserv On 3/25/2011 3:37 PM, Tristram Cheer wrote: Then your silly or dont really have a big network. We run nearly 100 towers with around 1000 clients and wouldn't dream of putting ROS 5 into production right now, It's simply too buggy and it gets very tiresome every time we report a ROS 4 fault to MT and am told to update to ROS 5.0RCxx I'm betting ROS 5.0 isn't stable enough for production use until late 11Q2 or early 11Q3 2011/3/25 Chupakachup...@gmail.com What do you mean? =) We have v5.0rc4 working in production. -- Подпись: (добавляется в конце всех исходящих писем) 2011/3/24 Butch Evansbut...@butchevans.com On 03/24/2011 01:37 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: I just can't believe what problems there are with all the 5 betas... Not one of the release candidates is work a c...p I can believe it. :-( -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * *NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/89868eda/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/eb871f2b/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] 5betaReleaseXX
Which RC? On Mar 25, 2011 6:04 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We are running it in production on at least 5 of our main routers (biggest one is moving 800Mbps of traffic). Travis Microserv On 3/25/2011 3:37 PM, Tristram Cheer wrote: Then your silly or dont really have a big network. We run nearly 100 towers with around 1000 clients and wouldn't dream of putting ROS 5 into production right now, It's simply too buggy and it gets very tiresome every time we report a ROS 4 fault to MT and am told to update to ROS 5.0RCxx I'm betting ROS 5.0 isn't stable enough for production use until late 11Q2 or early 11Q3 2011/3/25 Chupakachup...@gmail.com What do you mean? =) We have v5.0rc4 working in production. -- Подпись: (добавляется в конце всех исходящих писем) 2011/3/24 Butch Evansbut...@butchevans.com On 03/24/2011 01:37 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: I just can't believe what problems there are with all the 5 betas... Not one of the release candidates is work a c...p I can believe it. :-( -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * * NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/89868eda/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/eb871f2b/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/f9093d64/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] 5betaReleaseXX
Why on earth would anyone run unstable routing software in a network pushing that much traffic? 2011/3/26 Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Which RC? On Mar 25, 2011 6:04 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We are running it in production on at least 5 of our main routers (biggest one is moving 800Mbps of traffic). Travis Microserv On 3/25/2011 3:37 PM, Tristram Cheer wrote: Then your silly or dont really have a big network. We run nearly 100 towers with around 1000 clients and wouldn't dream of putting ROS 5 into production right now, It's simply too buggy and it gets very tiresome every time we report a ROS 4 fault to MT and am told to update to ROS 5.0RCxx I'm betting ROS 5.0 isn't stable enough for production use until late 11Q2 or early 11Q3 2011/3/25 Chupakachup...@gmail.com What do you mean? =) We have v5.0rc4 working in production. -- Подпись: (добавляется в конце всех исходящих писем) 2011/3/24 Butch Evansbut...@butchevans.com On 03/24/2011 01:37 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: I just can't believe what problems there are with all the 5 betas... Not one of the release candidates is work a c...p I can believe it. :-( -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * * NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/89868eda/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/eb871f2b/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/f9093d64/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/5e1a3894/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] 5betaReleaseXX
RC9 and RC10 On 3/25/2011 4:05 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Which RC? On Mar 25, 2011 6:04 PM, Travis Johnsont...@ida.net wrote: We are running it in production on at least 5 of our main routers (biggest one is moving 800Mbps of traffic). Travis Microserv On 3/25/2011 3:37 PM, Tristram Cheer wrote: Then your silly or dont really have a big network. We run nearly 100 towers with around 1000 clients and wouldn't dream of putting ROS 5 into production right now, It's simply too buggy and it gets very tiresome every time we report a ROS 4 fault to MT and am told to update to ROS 5.0RCxx I'm betting ROS 5.0 isn't stable enough for production use until late 11Q2 or early 11Q3 2011/3/25 Chupakachup...@gmail.com What do you mean? =) We have v5.0rc4 working in production. -- Подпись: (добавляется в конце всех исходящих писем) 2011/3/24 Butch Evansbut...@butchevans.com On 03/24/2011 01:37 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: I just can't believe what problems there are with all the 5 betas... Not one of the release candidates is work a c...p I can believe it. :-( -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * * NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/89868eda/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/eb871f2b/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/f9093d64/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] 5betaReleaseXX
Because it's not unstable. All routers have been up for over 20 days now without a single issue. Working perfectly. Of course, we subscribe to the KISS model (keep it simple, stupid). Our routers do basic routing, OSPF and a few queues, firewall and NAT rules. Nothing else. :) Travis Microserv On 3/25/2011 4:09 PM, Tristram Cheer wrote: Why on earth would anyone run unstable routing software in a network pushing that much traffic? 2011/3/26 Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com Which RC? On Mar 25, 2011 6:04 PM, Travis Johnsont...@ida.net wrote: We are running it in production on at least 5 of our main routers (biggest one is moving 800Mbps of traffic). Travis Microserv On 3/25/2011 3:37 PM, Tristram Cheer wrote: Then your silly or dont really have a big network. We run nearly 100 towers with around 1000 clients and wouldn't dream of putting ROS 5 into production right now, It's simply too buggy and it gets very tiresome every time we report a ROS 4 fault to MT and am told to update to ROS 5.0RCxx I'm betting ROS 5.0 isn't stable enough for production use until late 11Q2 or early 11Q3 2011/3/25 Chupakachup...@gmail.com What do you mean? =) We have v5.0rc4 working in production. -- Подпись: (добавляется в конце всех исходящих писем) 2011/3/24 Butch Evansbut...@butchevans.com On 03/24/2011 01:37 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: I just can't believe what problems there are with all the 5 betas... Not one of the release candidates is work a c...p I can believe it. :-( -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * * NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/89868eda/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/eb871f2b/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/f9093d64/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/5e1a3894/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] 5betaReleaseXX
I don't see a problem with it if you've tested it under load the lab and it works for your use. Also ROS5 adds chipset and NIC drivers so some platforms won't work on ROS4. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Tristram Cheer mikro...@tristramcheer.com wrote: Why on earth would anyone run unstable routing software in a network pushing that much traffic? 2011/3/26 Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Which RC? On Mar 25, 2011 6:04 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We are running it in production on at least 5 of our main routers (biggest one is moving 800Mbps of traffic). Travis Microserv On 3/25/2011 3:37 PM, Tristram Cheer wrote: Then your silly or dont really have a big network. We run nearly 100 towers with around 1000 clients and wouldn't dream of putting ROS 5 into production right now, It's simply too buggy and it gets very tiresome every time we report a ROS 4 fault to MT and am told to update to ROS 5.0RCxx I'm betting ROS 5.0 isn't stable enough for production use until late 11Q2 or early 11Q3 2011/3/25 Chupakachup...@gmail.com What do you mean? =) We have v5.0rc4 working in production. -- Подпись: (добавляется в конце всех исходящих писем) 2011/3/24 Butch Evansbut...@butchevans.com On 03/24/2011 01:37 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: I just can't believe what problems there are with all the 5 betas... Not one of the release candidates is work a c...p I can believe it. :-( -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * * NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/89868eda/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/eb871f2b/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/f9093d64/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/5e1a3894/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] 5betaReleaseXX
No... all of our wireless links are running v4 (because we saw no reason to upgrade them). We are running V5 on GigE based routers, and only because they are using newer chipsets that required V5. Travis Microserv On 3/25/2011 5:20 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 We see most of the problems in the legacy wireless stuff, the routing part seems to be fine. They have lost it as far as we are concerned with respect to wireless...We haven't seen a 5.x that works 1/10th as well as most of the 4 releases.. I'm guessing you aren't running 800Mb/s on any wireless gear... On 03/25/2011 03:10 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: RC9 and RC10 On 3/25/2011 4:05 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Which RC? On Mar 25, 2011 6:04 PM, Travis Johnsont...@ida.net wrote: We are running it in production on at least 5 of our main routers (biggest one is moving 800Mbps of traffic). Travis Microserv On 3/25/2011 3:37 PM, Tristram Cheer wrote: Then your silly or dont really have a big network. We run nearly 100 towers with around 1000 clients and wouldn't dream of putting ROS 5 into production right now, It's simply too buggy and it gets very tiresome every time we report a ROS 4 fault to MT and am told to update to ROS 5.0RCxx I'm betting ROS 5.0 isn't stable enough for production use until late 11Q2 or early 11Q3 2011/3/25 Chupakachup...@gmail.com What do you mean? =) We have v5.0rc4 working in production. -- Подпись: (добавляется в конце всех исходящих писем) 2011/3/24 Butch Evansbut...@butchevans.com On 03/24/2011 01:37 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: I just can't believe what problems there are with all the 5 betas... Not one of the release candidates is work a c...p I can believe it. :-( -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * * NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/89868eda/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/eb871f2b/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/f9093d64/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNjSMuAAoJEC+8HUjSuDOs04AIAJ9ajAmRTmv68phqcp4SUJQ1 TYucoPyy4h3M/cyHuI4GwTS0qZXh/TZgJcLdMzdTNg+pHncTQpjdiWfiw/2S2Kh/ SBtWZYCedP9SNJwVnILcHumSolcAqTRLW7XncWSJzrFxqhvxmW8D5ACdyjYNHROl BuRYt/vq2845iwR6sG0Oymsabg0djlen453iamSbge/tbpEq/DszX10IAaHmhx4x E/PzIqBK4zp/dxOqDDkrpBgMTKwem5gmtNxqci524yZyfBWUIQio8Ax8L71pPCJs 0LGmQ8zSM9sUVybtn0v4or5UmpfbAuxibHssrxhBOVe1CHSCGU8l+YnaReQT2dI= =yuuR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
Re: [Mikrotik] 5betaReleaseXX
So all I hear is bugs, bugs, bugs... What are these issues? I have a Smaller AP running 13 clients, PPPOE, RC1. I haven't scene anything out of the ordinary. Chris -Original Message- From: Tristram Cheer Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 4:37 PM To: Mikrotik discussions Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] 5betaReleaseXX Then your silly or dont really have a big network. We run nearly 100 towers with around 1000 clients and wouldn't dream of putting ROS 5 into production right now, It's simply too buggy and it gets very tiresome every time we report a ROS 4 fault to MT and am told to update to ROS 5.0RCxx I'm betting ROS 5.0 isn't stable enough for production use until late 11Q2 or early 11Q3 2011/3/25 Chupaka chup...@gmail.com What do you mean? =) We have v5.0rc4 working in production. -- Подпись: (добавляется в конце всех исходящих писем) 2011/3/24 Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com On 03/24/2011 01:37 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: I just can't believe what problems there are with all the 5 betas... Not one of the release candidates is work a c...p I can believe it. :-( -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * *NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/89868eda/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/eb871f2b/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] 5betaReleaseXX
On 03/25/2011 05:09 PM, Tristram Cheer wrote: Why on earth would anyone run unstable routing software in a network pushing that much traffic? The 5-RC series is mostly stable. There are some things (wireless, for example) that are not working as well. The basic routing stuff is working well, though. I have a number of customers running it in production without problems. I won't go so far as to say I'd recommend it for everyone, but it does work well for the most part if you stay away from wireless and some parts of IPv6. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * *NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] 5betaReleaseXX
On 03/25/2011 05:46 PM, ch...@htswireless.com wrote: So all I hear is bugs, bugs, bugs... What are these issues? I have a Smaller AP running 13 clients, PPPOE, RC1. I haven't scene anything out of the ordinary. Most of the wireless problems revolve around nstreme and the new nv2 protocol. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * *NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] 5betaReleaseXX
Ok, yeah I'm just running nstreme at the moment. Chris -Original Message- From: Butch Evans Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 6:04 PM To: Mikrotik discussions Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] 5betaReleaseXX On 03/25/2011 05:46 PM, ch...@htswireless.com wrote: So all I hear is bugs, bugs, bugs... What are these issues? I have a Smaller AP running 13 clients, PPPOE, RC1. I haven't scene anything out of the ordinary. Most of the wireless problems revolve around nstreme and the new nv2 protocol. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * *NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] 5betaReleaseXX
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 We had problems with standard 802.11g with 10mhz channels to 8 clients, strong signals... rc8,9,10,11.. support wanted us to try rc12, I've given up for now... On 03/25/2011 04:07 PM, ch...@htswireless.com wrote: Ok, yeah I'm just running nstreme at the moment. Chris -Original Message- From: Butch Evans Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 6:04 PM To: Mikrotik discussions Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] 5betaReleaseXX On 03/25/2011 05:46 PM, ch...@htswireless.com wrote: So all I hear is bugs, bugs, bugs... What are these issues? I have a Smaller AP running 13 clients, PPPOE, RC1. I haven't scene anything out of the ordinary. Most of the wireless problems revolve around nstreme and the new nv2 protocol. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNjS9mAAoJEC+8HUjSuDOszg4H/3vg+Jd++hUu7Bi4yBQETaIS 34wO+IoZS4Si2DgxKbLxDv07/xJdv+betW9d+tE+4DCVuzBnqhFC7UdVKYo5Yxye DUpJ10/4fcZQIySTL7qz+sEUgymnEKXM+9n8SjUbXar+wRHfB5wXH+h6tYeGqa4y KscJ6QHUAOQb9yTT3DlSV9hnCoUlKWdv9VNjYDElY+M1yQEzxFBcYUXVI5T9yvzt YQLe4Bg90aAnLFCgw95CwTDeNmQ9vRYfli3HYCKvCfYzwuwOqAFEcQJtEH29o1FM cRHAW/J774tEsTRZvgaHMP7ZoJ2YoHrrMg8ahTKsVSdWLgPvrygN9wHi1xZy8iY= =6uqz -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] 5betaReleaseXX
We are doing 5ghz 20mhz channels running nstreme. So far seems good. I may, for the hell of it, upgrade to some newer firmware. Chris -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 7:12 PM To: Mikrotik discussions Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] 5betaReleaseXX -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 We had problems with standard 802.11g with 10mhz channels to 8 clients, strong signals... rc8,9,10,11.. support wanted us to try rc12, I've given up for now... On 03/25/2011 04:07 PM, ch...@htswireless.com wrote: Ok, yeah I'm just running nstreme at the moment. Chris -Original Message- From: Butch Evans Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 6:04 PM To: Mikrotik discussions Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] 5betaReleaseXX On 03/25/2011 05:46 PM, ch...@htswireless.com wrote: So all I hear is bugs, bugs, bugs... What are these issues? I have a Smaller AP running 13 clients, PPPOE, RC1. I haven't scene anything out of the ordinary. Most of the wireless problems revolve around nstreme and the new nv2 protocol. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNjS9mAAoJEC+8HUjSuDOszg4H/3vg+Jd++hUu7Bi4yBQETaIS 34wO+IoZS4Si2DgxKbLxDv07/xJdv+betW9d+tE+4DCVuzBnqhFC7UdVKYo5Yxye DUpJ10/4fcZQIySTL7qz+sEUgymnEKXM+9n8SjUbXar+wRHfB5wXH+h6tYeGqa4y KscJ6QHUAOQb9yTT3DlSV9hnCoUlKWdv9VNjYDElY+M1yQEzxFBcYUXVI5T9yvzt YQLe4Bg90aAnLFCgw95CwTDeNmQ9vRYfli3HYCKvCfYzwuwOqAFEcQJtEH29o1FM cRHAW/J774tEsTRZvgaHMP7ZoJ2YoHrrMg8ahTKsVSdWLgPvrygN9wHi1xZy8iY= =6uqz -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] 5betaReleaseXX
At least Mtik labels their stuff with beta, have you ever fought and fought with a cisco only to learn that the most recent 'stable' software is really not? All OSes suck. (period) ryan 2011/3/25 Tristram Cheer mikro...@tristramcheer.com: Why on earth would anyone run unstable routing software in a network pushing that much traffic? 2011/3/26 Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Which RC? On Mar 25, 2011 6:04 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We are running it in production on at least 5 of our main routers (biggest one is moving 800Mbps of traffic). Travis Microserv On 3/25/2011 3:37 PM, Tristram Cheer wrote: Then your silly or dont really have a big network. We run nearly 100 towers with around 1000 clients and wouldn't dream of putting ROS 5 into production right now, It's simply too buggy and it gets very tiresome every time we report a ROS 4 fault to MT and am told to update to ROS 5.0RCxx I'm betting ROS 5.0 isn't stable enough for production use until late 11Q2 or early 11Q3 2011/3/25 Chupakachup...@gmail.com What do you mean? =) We have v5.0rc4 working in production. -- Подпись: (добавляется в конце всех исходящих писем) 2011/3/24 Butch Evansbut...@butchevans.com On 03/24/2011 01:37 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: I just can't believe what problems there are with all the 5 betas... Not one of the release candidates is work a c...p I can believe it. :-( -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * * NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/89868eda/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/eb871f2b/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/f9093d64/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/5e1a3894/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] 5betaReleaseXX
It's more the quality of the releases. IPv6 routes were meant to be fixed in rc11, it's only in rc12 that they are tested fixed but now thats caused issues with IPv4 BGP even when v6 is disabled. Add into the mix the fact that MT's changelog aren't worth even being used at toilet paper and you have the perfect storm for complex interaction faults. But then again we are cautious with rolling out to the core, Most of our gear is running 4.10 and was only upgrade to that in the past 3-4 months after detailed testing. As a result we dont get hit with random issues months down the the track and our core has uptimes measured in years and months (Alot of the core was running 3.30 with 6month + uptimes before the 4.10 upgrade) On 26 March 2011 13:12, Robert Andrews rob...@avantwireless.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 We had problems with standard 802.11g with 10mhz channels to 8 clients, strong signals... rc8,9,10,11.. support wanted us to try rc12, I've given up for now... On 03/25/2011 04:07 PM, ch...@htswireless.com wrote: Ok, yeah I'm just running nstreme at the moment. Chris -Original Message- From: Butch Evans Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 6:04 PM To: Mikrotik discussions Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] 5betaReleaseXX On 03/25/2011 05:46 PM, ch...@htswireless.com wrote: So all I hear is bugs, bugs, bugs... What are these issues? I have a Smaller AP running 13 clients, PPPOE, RC1. I haven't scene anything out of the ordinary. Most of the wireless problems revolve around nstreme and the new nv2 protocol. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNjS9mAAoJEC+8HUjSuDOszg4H/3vg+Jd++hUu7Bi4yBQETaIS 34wO+IoZS4Si2DgxKbLxDv07/xJdv+betW9d+tE+4DCVuzBnqhFC7UdVKYo5Yxye DUpJ10/4fcZQIySTL7qz+sEUgymnEKXM+9n8SjUbXar+wRHfB5wXH+h6tYeGqa4y KscJ6QHUAOQb9yTT3DlSV9hnCoUlKWdv9VNjYDElY+M1yQEzxFBcYUXVI5T9yvzt YQLe4Bg90aAnLFCgw95CwTDeNmQ9vRYfli3HYCKvCfYzwuwOqAFEcQJtEH29o1FM cRHAW/J774tEsTRZvgaHMP7ZoJ2YoHrrMg8ahTKsVSdWLgPvrygN9wHi1xZy8iY= =6uqz -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/0a438790/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
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At least with Cisco I can buy a support contract to confirm bugs and issues within hours rather than days like MT 2011/3/26 Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net At least Mtik labels their stuff with beta, have you ever fought and fought with a cisco only to learn that the most recent 'stable' software is really not? All OSes suck. (period) ryan 2011/3/25 Tristram Cheer mikro...@tristramcheer.com: Why on earth would anyone run unstable routing software in a network pushing that much traffic? 2011/3/26 Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Which RC? On Mar 25, 2011 6:04 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We are running it in production on at least 5 of our main routers (biggest one is moving 800Mbps of traffic). Travis Microserv On 3/25/2011 3:37 PM, Tristram Cheer wrote: Then your silly or dont really have a big network. We run nearly 100 towers with around 1000 clients and wouldn't dream of putting ROS 5 into production right now, It's simply too buggy and it gets very tiresome every time we report a ROS 4 fault to MT and am told to update to ROS 5.0RCxx I'm betting ROS 5.0 isn't stable enough for production use until late 11Q2 or early 11Q3 2011/3/25 Chupakachup...@gmail.com What do you mean? =) We have v5.0rc4 working in production. -- Подпись: (добавляется в конце всех исходящих писем) 2011/3/24 Butch Evansbut...@butchevans.com On 03/24/2011 01:37 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: I just can't believe what problems there are with all the 5 betas... Not one of the release candidates is work a c...p I can believe it. :-( -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * * NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/89868eda/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/eb871f2b/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/f9093d64/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/5e1a3894/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/ad9d2446/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 And that's the difference in price. Plus the corp jets, seven layers of executive staff and long roll out times. I don't think a comparison of Cisco and MT is anywhere in this universe, except as to how they actually accomplish the same task with some version of their respective firmwares...I'm just worried that MT has lost their focus in doing too many things. Granted ipV6 is a huge step, but maybe nothing else should have been attempted at the same time. On 03/25/2011 04:19 PM, Tristram Cheer wrote: At least with Cisco I can buy a support contract to confirm bugs and issues within hours rather than days like MT 2011/3/26 Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net At least Mtik labels their stuff with beta, have you ever fought and fought with a cisco only to learn that the most recent 'stable' software is really not? All OSes suck. (period) ryan 2011/3/25 Tristram Cheer mikro...@tristramcheer.com: Why on earth would anyone run unstable routing software in a network pushing that much traffic? 2011/3/26 Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Which RC? On Mar 25, 2011 6:04 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We are running it in production on at least 5 of our main routers (biggest one is moving 800Mbps of traffic). Travis Microserv On 3/25/2011 3:37 PM, Tristram Cheer wrote: Then your silly or dont really have a big network. We run nearly 100 towers with around 1000 clients and wouldn't dream of putting ROS 5 into production right now, It's simply too buggy and it gets very tiresome every time we report a ROS 4 fault to MT and am told to update to ROS 5.0RCxx I'm betting ROS 5.0 isn't stable enough for production use until late 11Q2 or early 11Q3 2011/3/25 Chupakachup...@gmail.com What do you mean? =) We have v5.0rc4 working in production. -- Подпись: (добавляется в конце всех исходящих писем) 2011/3/24 Butch Evansbut...@butchevans.com On 03/24/2011 01:37 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: I just can't believe what problems there are with all the 5 betas... Not one of the release candidates is work a c...p I can believe it. :-( -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * * NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/89868eda/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/eb871f2b/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/f9093d64/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/5e1a3894/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part
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Compare support :) We'd be quite happy to buy a nice support contract that gave us 24-hour e-mail response with MT, The amount of time I've spent trying to debug a fault while I wait for support to look at the RIF. 2011/3/26 Robert Andrews rob...@avantwireless.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 And that's the difference in price. Plus the corp jets, seven layers of executive staff and long roll out times. I don't think a comparison of Cisco and MT is anywhere in this universe, except as to how they actually accomplish the same task with some version of their respective firmwares...I'm just worried that MT has lost their focus in doing too many things. Granted ipV6 is a huge step, but maybe nothing else should have been attempted at the same time. On 03/25/2011 04:19 PM, Tristram Cheer wrote: At least with Cisco I can buy a support contract to confirm bugs and issues within hours rather than days like MT 2011/3/26 Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net At least Mtik labels their stuff with beta, have you ever fought and fought with a cisco only to learn that the most recent 'stable' software is really not? All OSes suck. (period) ryan 2011/3/25 Tristram Cheer mikro...@tristramcheer.com: Why on earth would anyone run unstable routing software in a network pushing that much traffic? 2011/3/26 Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Which RC? On Mar 25, 2011 6:04 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We are running it in production on at least 5 of our main routers (biggest one is moving 800Mbps of traffic). Travis Microserv On 3/25/2011 3:37 PM, Tristram Cheer wrote: Then your silly or dont really have a big network. We run nearly 100 towers with around 1000 clients and wouldn't dream of putting ROS 5 into production right now, It's simply too buggy and it gets very tiresome every time we report a ROS 4 fault to MT and am told to update to ROS 5.0RCxx I'm betting ROS 5.0 isn't stable enough for production use until late 11Q2 or early 11Q3 2011/3/25 Chupakachup...@gmail.com What do you mean? =) We have v5.0rc4 working in production. -- Подпись: (добавляется в конце всех исходящих писем) 2011/3/24 Butch Evansbut...@butchevans.com On 03/24/2011 01:37 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: I just can't believe what problems there are with all the 5 betas... Not one of the release candidates is work a c...p I can believe it. :-( -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * * NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/89868eda/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/eb871f2b/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/f9093d64/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/5e1a3894/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list
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There is a rumor going around that V4 QOS is unstable/unreliable with cpu above 35% ? Anyone else comment on that? For this reason I am looking at upgrading our core to V5. Every OS sucks. One of my favorite videos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d85p7JZXNy8 -Louis 2011/3/25 Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net: At least Mtik labels their stuff with beta, have you ever fought and fought with a cisco only to learn that the most recent 'stable' software is really not? All OSes suck. (period) ryan 2011/3/25 Tristram Cheer mikro...@tristramcheer.com: Why on earth would anyone run unstable routing software in a network pushing that much traffic? 2011/3/26 Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Which RC? On Mar 25, 2011 6:04 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We are running it in production on at least 5 of our main routers (biggest one is moving 800Mbps of traffic). Travis Microserv On 3/25/2011 3:37 PM, Tristram Cheer wrote: Then your silly or dont really have a big network. We run nearly 100 towers with around 1000 clients and wouldn't dream of putting ROS 5 into production right now, It's simply too buggy and it gets very tiresome every time we report a ROS 4 fault to MT and am told to update to ROS 5.0RCxx I'm betting ROS 5.0 isn't stable enough for production use until late 11Q2 or early 11Q3 2011/3/25 Chupakachup...@gmail.com What do you mean? =) We have v5.0rc4 working in production. -- Подпись: (добавляется в конце всех исходящих писем) 2011/3/24 Butch Evansbut...@butchevans.com On 03/24/2011 01:37 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: I just can't believe what problems there are with all the 5 betas... Not one of the release candidates is work a c...p I can believe it. :-( -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * * NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/89868eda/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/eb871f2b/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110325/f9093d64/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20110326/5e1a3894/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
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On 03/24/2011 01:37 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: I just can't believe what problems there are with all the 5 betas... Not one of the release candidates is work a c...p I can believe it. :-( -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * *NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
