Re: [Mikrotik] Downgrade Software

2009-03-23 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 15:44 -0500, Chris Gotstein wrote:
> Any harm in downgrading from 3.22 to 3.20?

None that I've heard or seen.  Any reason you are downgrading?

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Re: [Mikrotik] Downgrade Software

2009-03-23 Thread Chris Gotstein
Been having issues with my RB433 APs talking to my tranzeo CPEs. 
Getting errors about deauth, 4-way handshake and unicast cipher 
timeouts.  Didn't start seeing these till i upgraded to 3.22.


Never downgraded before, same steps for upgrading?  Just upload file and 
reboot?


Butch Evans wrote:

On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 15:44 -0500, Chris Gotstein wrote:

Any harm in downgrading from 3.22 to 3.20?


None that I've heard or seen.  Any reason you are downgrading?



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Re: [Mikrotik] Downgrade Software

2009-03-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Upload and then go to /syst pack downgrade

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On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Chris Gotstein  wrote:

> Been having issues with my RB433 APs talking to my tranzeo CPEs. Getting
> errors about deauth, 4-way handshake and unicast cipher timeouts.  Didn't
> start seeing these till i upgraded to 3.22.
>
> Never downgraded before, same steps for upgrading?  Just upload file and
> reboot?
>
> Butch Evans wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 15:44 -0500, Chris Gotstein wrote:
>>
>>> Any harm in downgrading from 3.22 to 3.20?
>>>
>>
>> None that I've heard or seen.  Any reason you are downgrading?
>>
>>
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Re: [Mikrotik] Downgrade Software

2009-03-24 Thread [Max]
I have the same issue. i will have to downgrade

Max
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>
>
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Chris Gotstein 
> wrote:
>
> > Been having issues with my RB433 APs talking to my tranzeo CPEs. Getting
> > errors about deauth, 4-way handshake and unicast cipher timeouts.  Didn't
> > start seeing these till i upgraded to 3.22.
> >
> > Never downgraded before, same steps for upgrading?  Just upload file and
> > reboot?
> >
> > Butch Evans wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 15:44 -0500, Chris Gotstein wrote:
> >>
> >>> Any harm in downgrading from 3.22 to 3.20?
> >>>
> >>
> >> None that I've heard or seen.  Any reason you are downgrading?
> >>
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Re: [Mikrotik] Downgrade Software

2009-03-24 Thread Chris Gotstein
Would also highly suggest not upgrading your tranzeo's to 4.0.2 at this 
time.  Bad things happen...


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[Max] wrote:

I have the same issue. i will have to downgrade

Max



On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Chris Gotstein 
wrote:


Been having issues with my RB433 APs talking to my tranzeo CPEs. Getting
errors about deauth, 4-way handshake and unicast cipher timeouts.  Didn't
start seeing these till i upgraded to 3.22.

Never downgraded before, same steps for upgrading?  Just upload file and
reboot?

Butch Evans wrote:


On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 15:44 -0500, Chris Gotstein wrote:


Any harm in downgrading from 3.22 to 3.20?


None that I've heard or seen.  Any reason you are downgrading?



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Re: [Mikrotik] Downgrade Software

2009-03-24 Thread Robert Andrews
Please elaborate, that's what this list is for.   We haven't experienced 
any problems with 4.0.2 at this point _AS LONG AS YOU DISABLE DFS_We 
are running MT3.22 and tranzeo 4.0.2 in numerous locations and off 
numerous transmitters...  2.4Ghz, and 5.XGhz...


Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:
Would also highly suggest not upgrading your tranzeo's to 4.0.2 at 
this time.  Bad things happen...


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500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

[Max] wrote:

I have the same issue. i will have to downgrade

Max



On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Chris Gotstein 
wrote:

Been having issues with my RB433 APs talking to my tranzeo CPEs. 
Getting
errors about deauth, 4-way handshake and unicast cipher timeouts.  
Didn't

start seeing these till i upgraded to 3.22.

Never downgraded before, same steps for upgrading?  Just upload 
file and

reboot?

Butch Evans wrote:


On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 15:44 -0500, Chris Gotstein wrote:


Any harm in downgrading from 3.22 to 3.20?


None that I've heard or seen.  Any reason you are downgrading?



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Re: [Mikrotik] Downgrade Software

2009-03-24 Thread Chris Gotstein

Are you running it using WPA or WPA with AES?

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Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:
Please elaborate, that's what this list is for.   We haven't experienced 
any problems with 4.0.2 at this point _AS LONG AS YOU DISABLE DFS_We 
are running MT3.22 and tranzeo 4.0.2 in numerous locations and off 
numerous transmitters...  2.4Ghz, and 5.XGhz...


Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:
Would also highly suggest not upgrading your tranzeo's to 4.0.2 at 
this time.  Bad things happen...


Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

[Max] wrote:

I have the same issue. i will have to downgrade

Max



On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Chris Gotstein 
wrote:

Been having issues with my RB433 APs talking to my tranzeo CPEs. 
Getting
errors about deauth, 4-way handshake and unicast cipher timeouts.  
Didn't

start seeing these till i upgraded to 3.22.

Never downgraded before, same steps for upgrading?  Just upload 
file and

reboot?

Butch Evans wrote:


On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 15:44 -0500, Chris Gotstein wrote:


Any harm in downgrading from 3.22 to 3.20?


None that I've heard or seen.  Any reason you are downgrading?



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Re: [Mikrotik] Downgrade Software

2009-03-24 Thread Robert Andrews

WPA

Chris Gotstein wrote:

Are you running it using WPA or WPA with AES?

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:
Please elaborate, that's what this list is for.   We haven't 
experienced any problems with 4.0.2 at this point _AS LONG AS YOU 
DISABLE DFS_We are running MT3.22 and tranzeo 4.0.2 in numerous 
locations and off numerous transmitters...  2.4Ghz, and 5.XGhz...


Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:
Would also highly suggest not upgrading your tranzeo's to 4.0.2 at 
this time.  Bad things happen...


Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

[Max] wrote:

I have the same issue. i will have to downgrade

Max



On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Chris Gotstein 
wrote:

Been having issues with my RB433 APs talking to my tranzeo CPEs. 
Getting
errors about deauth, 4-way handshake and unicast cipher 
timeouts.  Didn't

start seeing these till i upgraded to 3.22.

Never downgraded before, same steps for upgrading?  Just upload 
file and

reboot?

Butch Evans wrote:


On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 15:44 -0500, Chris Gotstein wrote:


Any harm in downgrading from 3.22 to 3.20?


None that I've heard or seen.  Any reason you are downgrading?



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Re: [Mikrotik] Downgrade Software

2009-03-24 Thread Chris Gotstein
Since upgrading to 4.0.2, i've been having issues with CPE's rebooting 
and dis-associating from the Mikrotik AP.  I have a ticket open with 
Tranzeo, and they are trying to reproduce it in the lab.  Luckily i only 
upgraded one site that had 7 clients on it.  Bad news is that i may have 
to downgrade the CPEs to 3.6.7 which is going to default the configs.


I've also run into a few odd issues with 4.0.2 on the TR5a's, again 
dealing with WPA and also accessing the web interface.


Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:

WPA

Chris Gotstein wrote:

Are you running it using WPA or WPA with AES?

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:
Please elaborate, that's what this list is for.   We haven't 
experienced any problems with 4.0.2 at this point _AS LONG AS YOU 
DISABLE DFS_We are running MT3.22 and tranzeo 4.0.2 in numerous 
locations and off numerous transmitters...  2.4Ghz, and 5.XGhz...


Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:
Would also highly suggest not upgrading your tranzeo's to 4.0.2 at 
this time.  Bad things happen...


Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

[Max] wrote:

I have the same issue. i will have to downgrade

Max



On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Chris Gotstein 
wrote:

Been having issues with my RB433 APs talking to my tranzeo CPEs. 
Getting
errors about deauth, 4-way handshake and unicast cipher 
timeouts.  Didn't

start seeing these till i upgraded to 3.22.

Never downgraded before, same steps for upgrading?  Just upload 
file and

reboot?

Butch Evans wrote:


On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 15:44 -0500, Chris Gotstein wrote:


Any harm in downgrading from 3.22 to 3.20?


None that I've heard or seen.  Any reason you are downgrading?



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Fax: 906-774-0335
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Re: [Mikrotik] Downgrade Software

2009-03-24 Thread Robert Andrews
I have one site running MT3.22 with SR5 and 12 TR5a's  all WPA all 
working fine.   We get a lot of power hits here, and radios will reboot 
due to that, but since upgrading, everything has been very stable.   We 
have sites with CPQ's running WPA others running WEP some 20mhz channels 
and some with 10mhz channels, all running hot straight normal... ( 
reading a sub book, lol )   What are your running for radios for your MT 
side?Is DFS disabled?  what channels?   Except for the price, we 
_really_ like our TR gear
The antenna sections are second to none and the radios try so very hard 
no matter what the interference...


Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:
Since upgrading to 4.0.2, i've been having issues with CPE's rebooting 
and dis-associating from the Mikrotik AP.  I have a ticket open with 
Tranzeo, and they are trying to reproduce it in the lab.  Luckily i 
only upgraded one site that had 7 clients on it.  Bad news is that i 
may have to downgrade the CPEs to 3.6.7 which is going to default the 
configs.


I've also run into a few odd issues with 4.0.2 on the TR5a's, again 
dealing with WPA and also accessing the web interface.


Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:

WPA

Chris Gotstein wrote:

Are you running it using WPA or WPA with AES?

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:
Please elaborate, that's what this list is for.   We haven't 
experienced any problems with 4.0.2 at this point _AS LONG AS YOU 
DISABLE DFS_We are running MT3.22 and tranzeo 4.0.2 in numerous 
locations and off numerous transmitters...  2.4Ghz, and 5.XGhz...


Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:
Would also highly suggest not upgrading your tranzeo's to 4.0.2 at 
this time.  Bad things happen...


Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

[Max] wrote:

I have the same issue. i will have to downgrade

Max



On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Chris Gotstein 


wrote:

Been having issues with my RB433 APs talking to my tranzeo 
CPEs. Getting
errors about deauth, 4-way handshake and unicast cipher 
timeouts.  Didn't

start seeing these till i upgraded to 3.22.

Never downgraded before, same steps for upgrading?  Just upload 
file and

reboot?

Butch Evans wrote:


On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 15:44 -0500, Chris Gotstein wrote:


Any harm in downgrading from 3.22 to 3.20?


None that I've heard or seen.  Any reason you are downgrading?



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Iron Mountain, MI 49801
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Re: [Mikrotik] Downgrade Software

2009-03-24 Thread Chris Gotstein
I'm running XR2's in the MT boxes.  We use TR5a's as AP on the 5.8 side. 
 I've had no problems upgrading my backhauls to 4.0.2 and any of the 
few tr6000's that have clients are working well.  Just seems to be MT 
boxes giving me troubles.  Error i get in the log is:


disconnected, received deauth, 4-way handshake timeout

Very frustrating and clients are getting upset.

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:
I have one site running MT3.22 with SR5 and 12 TR5a's  all WPA all 
working fine.   We get a lot of power hits here, and radios will reboot 
due to that, but since upgrading, everything has been very stable.   We 
have sites with CPQ's running WPA others running WEP some 20mhz channels 
and some with 10mhz channels, all running hot straight normal... ( 
reading a sub book, lol )   What are your running for radios for your MT 
side?Is DFS disabled?  what channels?   Except for the price, we 
_really_ like our TR gear
The antenna sections are second to none and the radios try so very hard 
no matter what the interference...


Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:
Since upgrading to 4.0.2, i've been having issues with CPE's rebooting 
and dis-associating from the Mikrotik AP.  I have a ticket open with 
Tranzeo, and they are trying to reproduce it in the lab.  Luckily i 
only upgraded one site that had 7 clients on it.  Bad news is that i 
may have to downgrade the CPEs to 3.6.7 which is going to default the 
configs.


I've also run into a few odd issues with 4.0.2 on the TR5a's, again 
dealing with WPA and also accessing the web interface.


Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:

WPA

Chris Gotstein wrote:

Are you running it using WPA or WPA with AES?

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:
Please elaborate, that's what this list is for.   We haven't 
experienced any problems with 4.0.2 at this point _AS LONG AS YOU 
DISABLE DFS_We are running MT3.22 and tranzeo 4.0.2 in numerous 
locations and off numerous transmitters...  2.4Ghz, and 5.XGhz...


Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:
Would also highly suggest not upgrading your tranzeo's to 4.0.2 at 
this time.  Bad things happen...


Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

[Max] wrote:

I have the same issue. i will have to downgrade

Max



On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Chris Gotstein 


wrote:

Been having issues with my RB433 APs talking to my tranzeo 
CPEs. Getting
errors about deauth, 4-way handshake and unicast cipher 
timeouts.  Didn't

start seeing these till i upgraded to 3.22.

Never downgraded before, same steps for upgrading?  Just upload 
file and

reboot?

Butch Evans wrote:


On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 15:44 -0500, Chris Gotstein wrote:


Any harm in downgrading from 3.22 to 3.20?


None that I've heard or seen.  Any reason you are downgrading?



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Re: [Mikrotik] Downgrade Software

2009-03-24 Thread Robert Andrews

What have you got your retries set to on the MT?

Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:
I'm running XR2's in the MT boxes.  We use TR5a's as AP on the 5.8 
side.  I've had no problems upgrading my backhauls to 4.0.2 and any of 
the few tr6000's that have clients are working well.  Just seems to be 
MT boxes giving me troubles.  Error i get in the log is:


disconnected, received deauth, 4-way handshake timeout

Very frustrating and clients are getting upset.

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:
I have one site running MT3.22 with SR5 and 12 TR5a's  all WPA all 
working fine.   We get a lot of power hits here, and radios will 
reboot due to that, but since upgrading, everything has been very 
stable.   We have sites with CPQ's running WPA others running WEP 
some 20mhz channels and some with 10mhz channels, all running hot 
straight normal... ( reading a sub book, lol )   What are your 
running for radios for your MT side?Is DFS disabled?  what 
channels?   Except for the price, we _really_ like our TR gear
The antenna sections are second to none and the radios try so very 
hard no matter what the interference...


Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:
Since upgrading to 4.0.2, i've been having issues with CPE's 
rebooting and dis-associating from the Mikrotik AP.  I have a ticket 
open with Tranzeo, and they are trying to reproduce it in the lab.  
Luckily i only upgraded one site that had 7 clients on it.  Bad news 
is that i may have to downgrade the CPEs to 3.6.7 which is going to 
default the configs.


I've also run into a few odd issues with 4.0.2 on the TR5a's, again 
dealing with WPA and also accessing the web interface.


Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:

WPA

Chris Gotstein wrote:

Are you running it using WPA or WPA with AES?

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:
Please elaborate, that's what this list is for.   We haven't 
experienced any problems with 4.0.2 at this point _AS LONG AS YOU 
DISABLE DFS_We are running MT3.22 and tranzeo 4.0.2 in 
numerous locations and off numerous transmitters...  2.4Ghz, and 
5.XGhz...


Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:
Would also highly suggest not upgrading your tranzeo's to 4.0.2 
at this time.  Bad things happen...


Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

[Max] wrote:

I have the same issue. i will have to downgrade

Max



On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Chris Gotstein 


wrote:

Been having issues with my RB433 APs talking to my tranzeo 
CPEs. Getting
errors about deauth, 4-way handshake and unicast cipher 
timeouts.  Didn't

start seeing these till i upgraded to 3.22.

Never downgraded before, same steps for upgrading?  Just 
upload file and

reboot?

Butch Evans wrote:


On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 15:44 -0500, Chris Gotstein wrote:


Any harm in downgrading from 3.22 to 3.20?


None that I've heard or seen.  Any reason you are downgrading?



--
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Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
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Re: [Mikrotik] Downgrade Software

2009-03-24 Thread Chris Gotstein

the default of 4

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:

What have you got your retries set to on the MT?

Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:
I'm running XR2's in the MT boxes.  We use TR5a's as AP on the 5.8 
side.  I've had no problems upgrading my backhauls to 4.0.2 and any of 
the few tr6000's that have clients are working well.  Just seems to be 
MT boxes giving me troubles.  Error i get in the log is:


disconnected, received deauth, 4-way handshake timeout

Very frustrating and clients are getting upset.

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:
I have one site running MT3.22 with SR5 and 12 TR5a's  all WPA all 
working fine.   We get a lot of power hits here, and radios will 
reboot due to that, but since upgrading, everything has been very 
stable.   We have sites with CPQ's running WPA others running WEP 
some 20mhz channels and some with 10mhz channels, all running hot 
straight normal... ( reading a sub book, lol )   What are your 
running for radios for your MT side?Is DFS disabled?  what 
channels?   Except for the price, we _really_ like our TR gear
The antenna sections are second to none and the radios try so very 
hard no matter what the interference...


Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:
Since upgrading to 4.0.2, i've been having issues with CPE's 
rebooting and dis-associating from the Mikrotik AP.  I have a ticket 
open with Tranzeo, and they are trying to reproduce it in the lab.  
Luckily i only upgraded one site that had 7 clients on it.  Bad news 
is that i may have to downgrade the CPEs to 3.6.7 which is going to 
default the configs.


I've also run into a few odd issues with 4.0.2 on the TR5a's, again 
dealing with WPA and also accessing the web interface.


Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:

WPA

Chris Gotstein wrote:

Are you running it using WPA or WPA with AES?

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:
Please elaborate, that's what this list is for.   We haven't 
experienced any problems with 4.0.2 at this point _AS LONG AS YOU 
DISABLE DFS_We are running MT3.22 and tranzeo 4.0.2 in 
numerous locations and off numerous transmitters...  2.4Ghz, and 
5.XGhz...


Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:
Would also highly suggest not upgrading your tranzeo's to 4.0.2 
at this time.  Bad things happen...


Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

[Max] wrote:

I have the same issue. i will have to downgrade

Max



On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Chris Gotstein 


wrote:

Been having issues with my RB433 APs talking to my tranzeo 
CPEs. Getting
errors about deauth, 4-way handshake and unicast cipher 
timeouts.  Didn't

start seeing these till i upgraded to 3.22.

Never downgraded before, same steps for upgrading?  Just 
upload file and

reboot?

Butch Evans wrote:


On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 15:44 -0500, Chris Gotstein wrote:


Any harm in downgrading from 3.22 to 3.20?


None that I've heard or seen.  Any reason you are downgrading?



--
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Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
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Re: [Mikrotik] Downgrade Software

2009-03-24 Thread Robert Andrews

Go to 15, makes a world of difference to throughput...
Might fix this problem...

Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:

the default of 4

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:

What have you got your retries set to on the MT?

Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:
I'm running XR2's in the MT boxes.  We use TR5a's as AP on the 5.8 
side.  I've had no problems upgrading my backhauls to 4.0.2 and any 
of the few tr6000's that have clients are working well.  Just seems 
to be MT boxes giving me troubles.  Error i get in the log is:


disconnected, received deauth, 4-way handshake timeout

Very frustrating and clients are getting upset.

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:
I have one site running MT3.22 with SR5 and 12 TR5a's  all WPA all 
working fine.   We get a lot of power hits here, and radios will 
reboot due to that, but since upgrading, everything has been very 
stable.   We have sites with CPQ's running WPA others running WEP 
some 20mhz channels and some with 10mhz channels, all running hot 
straight normal... ( reading a sub book, lol )   What are your 
running for radios for your MT side?Is DFS disabled?  what 
channels?   Except for the price, we _really_ like our TR gear
The antenna sections are second to none and the radios try so very 
hard no matter what the interference...


Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:
Since upgrading to 4.0.2, i've been having issues with CPE's 
rebooting and dis-associating from the Mikrotik AP.  I have a 
ticket open with Tranzeo, and they are trying to reproduce it in 
the lab.  Luckily i only upgraded one site that had 7 clients on 
it.  Bad news is that i may have to downgrade the CPEs to 3.6.7 
which is going to default the configs.


I've also run into a few odd issues with 4.0.2 on the TR5a's, 
again dealing with WPA and also accessing the web interface.


Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:

WPA

Chris Gotstein wrote:

Are you running it using WPA or WPA with AES?

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:
Please elaborate, that's what this list is for.   We haven't 
experienced any problems with 4.0.2 at this point _AS LONG AS 
YOU DISABLE DFS_We are running MT3.22 and tranzeo 4.0.2 in 
numerous locations and off numerous transmitters...  2.4Ghz, 
and 5.XGhz...


Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:
Would also highly suggest not upgrading your tranzeo's to 
4.0.2 at this time.  Bad things happen...


Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

[Max] wrote:

I have the same issue. i will have to downgrade

Max



On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Chris Gotstein 


wrote:

Been having issues with my RB433 APs talking to my tranzeo 
CPEs. Getting
errors about deauth, 4-way handshake and unicast cipher 
timeouts.  Didn't

start seeing these till i upgraded to 3.22.

Never downgraded before, same steps for upgrading?  Just 
upload file and

reboot?

Butch Evans wrote:


On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 15:44 -0500, Chris Gotstein wrote:


Any harm in downgrading from 3.22 to 3.20?

None that I've heard or seen.  Any reason you are 
downgrading?




--
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Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com
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Re: [Mikrotik] Downgrade Software

2009-03-24 Thread Chris Gotstein

Really?  Might give it a try.

I ended up just disabling encryption all together till tranzeo can look 
into it some more.


Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:

Go to 15, makes a world of difference to throughput...
Might fix this problem...

Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:

the default of 4

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:

What have you got your retries set to on the MT?

Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:
I'm running XR2's in the MT boxes.  We use TR5a's as AP on the 5.8 
side.  I've had no problems upgrading my backhauls to 4.0.2 and any 
of the few tr6000's that have clients are working well.  Just seems 
to be MT boxes giving me troubles.  Error i get in the log is:


disconnected, received deauth, 4-way handshake timeout

Very frustrating and clients are getting upset.

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:
I have one site running MT3.22 with SR5 and 12 TR5a's  all WPA all 
working fine.   We get a lot of power hits here, and radios will 
reboot due to that, but since upgrading, everything has been very 
stable.   We have sites with CPQ's running WPA others running WEP 
some 20mhz channels and some with 10mhz channels, all running hot 
straight normal... ( reading a sub book, lol )   What are your 
running for radios for your MT side?Is DFS disabled?  what 
channels?   Except for the price, we _really_ like our TR gear
The antenna sections are second to none and the radios try so very 
hard no matter what the interference...


Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:
Since upgrading to 4.0.2, i've been having issues with CPE's 
rebooting and dis-associating from the Mikrotik AP.  I have a 
ticket open with Tranzeo, and they are trying to reproduce it in 
the lab.  Luckily i only upgraded one site that had 7 clients on 
it.  Bad news is that i may have to downgrade the CPEs to 3.6.7 
which is going to default the configs.


I've also run into a few odd issues with 4.0.2 on the TR5a's, 
again dealing with WPA and also accessing the web interface.


Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:

WPA

Chris Gotstein wrote:

Are you running it using WPA or WPA with AES?

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:
Please elaborate, that's what this list is for.   We haven't 
experienced any problems with 4.0.2 at this point _AS LONG AS 
YOU DISABLE DFS_We are running MT3.22 and tranzeo 4.0.2 in 
numerous locations and off numerous transmitters...  2.4Ghz, 
and 5.XGhz...


Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:
Would also highly suggest not upgrading your tranzeo's to 
4.0.2 at this time.  Bad things happen...


Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

[Max] wrote:

I have the same issue. i will have to downgrade

Max



On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Chris Gotstein 


wrote:

Been having issues with my RB433 APs talking to my tranzeo 
CPEs. Getting
errors about deauth, 4-way handshake and unicast cipher 
timeouts.  Didn't

start seeing these till i upgraded to 3.22.

Never downgraded before, same steps for upgrading?  Just 
upload file and

reboot?

Butch Evans wrote:


On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 15:44 -0500, Chris Gotstein wrote:


Any harm in downgrading from 3.22 to 3.20?

None that I've heard or seen.  Any reason you are 
downgrading?




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Re: [Mikrotik] Downgrade Software

2009-03-24 Thread Robert Andrews
On most of our links, throughput with some kind of interference, mostly 
minor, doubled.   It might take care of the failure of your handshakes...


Best,
  Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:

Really?  Might give it a try.

I ended up just disabling encryption all together till tranzeo can 
look into it some more.


Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:

Go to 15, makes a world of difference to throughput...
Might fix this problem...

Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:

the default of 4

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:

What have you got your retries set to on the MT?

Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:
I'm running XR2's in the MT boxes.  We use TR5a's as AP on the 5.8 
side.  I've had no problems upgrading my backhauls to 4.0.2 and 
any of the few tr6000's that have clients are working well.  Just 
seems to be MT boxes giving me troubles.  Error i get in the log is:


disconnected, received deauth, 4-way handshake timeout

Very frustrating and clients are getting upset.

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:
I have one site running MT3.22 with SR5 and 12 TR5a's  all WPA 
all working fine.   We get a lot of power hits here, and radios 
will reboot due to that, but since upgrading, everything has been 
very stable.   We have sites with CPQ's running WPA others 
running WEP some 20mhz channels and some with 10mhz channels, all 
running hot straight normal... ( reading a sub book, lol )   What 
are your running for radios for your MT side?Is DFS 
disabled?  what channels?   Except for the price, we _really_ 
like our TR gear
The antenna sections are second to none and the radios try so 
very hard no matter what the interference...


Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:
Since upgrading to 4.0.2, i've been having issues with CPE's 
rebooting and dis-associating from the Mikrotik AP.  I have a 
ticket open with Tranzeo, and they are trying to reproduce it in 
the lab.  Luckily i only upgraded one site that had 7 clients on 
it.  Bad news is that i may have to downgrade the CPEs to 3.6.7 
which is going to default the configs.


I've also run into a few odd issues with 4.0.2 on the TR5a's, 
again dealing with WPA and also accessing the web interface.


Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:

WPA

Chris Gotstein wrote:

Are you running it using WPA or WPA with AES?

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

Robert Andrews wrote:
Please elaborate, that's what this list is for.   We haven't 
experienced any problems with 4.0.2 at this point _AS LONG AS 
YOU DISABLE DFS_We are running MT3.22 and tranzeo 4.0.2 
in numerous locations and off numerous transmitters...  
2.4Ghz, and 5.XGhz...


Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:
Would also highly suggest not upgrading your tranzeo's to 
4.0.2 at this time.  Bad things happen...


Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com

[Max] wrote:

I have the same issue. i will have to downgrade

Max



On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Chris Gotstein 


wrote:

Been having issues with my RB433 APs talking to my 
tranzeo CPEs. Getting
errors about deauth, 4-way handshake and unicast cipher 
timeouts.  Didn't

start seeing these till i upgraded to 3.22.

Never downgraded before, same steps for upgrading?  Just 
upload file and

reboot?

Butch Evans wrote:


On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 15:44 -0500, Chris Gotstein wrote:


Any harm in downgrading from 3.22 to 3.20?

None that I've heard or seen.  Any reason you are 
downgrading?




--
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Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com
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