Re: [Mikrotik] Ethernet port ordering
I have never had issues with x86 but I have had far less experience then routerboards. On 11/8/08, Kevin Neal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unfortunately that's not our experience with x86. We've had it put ether1 > on a random port and then sequentially go through the rest, it might jump up > or down the PCI slots, even the onboard changes. It does look that it keeps > the settings after reboots and /system resets, but if do another netinstall > on it it will change. > > The most recent box had 4 4 port ethernet cards. Here's the order it was > in.. > > 7 < onboard > 11, 10, 9, 8 < first PCI card > 15, 14, 13, 12 < second PCI card > 2, 1, 17, 16 < third PCI card > 6, 5, 4, 3 < fourth PCI card. > > -Kevin > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 7:41 AM > To: Mikrotik discussions > Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Ethernet port ordering > > With x86 it should go in order of PCI slots with onboard being first, I > believe. > > How the daughterboard wraps around the other ports is very odd - maybe the > PCI (or equivilent) addresses wrap around? > > On 11/8/08, Randall Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> We have 4 port ethernet cards in our main AMD based router running MT. . >> When we've swaped to new box, the restore doesn't always get it right. >> Mostly due to whether or not onboard lan was enabled. The 4 port card >> is always sequential, just sometimes not always at the beginning or end. >> >> Winbox doesn't show the port number, but terminal screen does under >> /int print. Helps me keep them straight after I've renamed them. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Josh Luthman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Mikrotik discussions" >> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 5:48 PM >> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Ethernet port ordering >> >> >>> With that being the case take note if you have to replace the board >>> and do a backup/restore! >>> >>> On 11/7/08, Butch Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Craig Baird wrote: >>>> >>>>>I've got something weird going on. I just configured an RB532 with >>>>>the RB564 daugterboard. Here's what I'm seeing: >>>>> >>>>>This is very confusing when trying to figure out which port to >>>>>physically plug various cables into. I've tried resetting the >>>>>config, but it didn't change anything. Any suggestions on what I >>>>>can do to get the port ordering straightened back out? >>>> >>>> This is a common issue. The only "fix" is to rename the interfaces. >>>> It is a problem that I know MT has been told about, but they did >>>> not, could not or would not (take your pick) change the behaviour. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* >>>> * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering* >>>> * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member* >>>> * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks* >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my mobile device >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. >>> --- Henry Spencer >>> ___ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >>> -- >>> This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by >>> Basin Broadband, Inc., utilizing DefenderMX technology, and is >>> believed to be clean. >> >> >> -- >> -- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by
Re: [Mikrotik] Ethernet port ordering
Quoting Josh Luthman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: With x86 it should go in order of PCI slots with onboard being first, I believe. The RB532 isn't x86. It's mips. Although I still would think it would be in order. How the daughterboard wraps around the other ports is very odd - maybe the PCI (or equivilent) addresses wrap around? I thought so too. I could understand the daughterboard ports showing up either behind the 532 ports or in front of them, but to have the main board's ports stuck in between the daughterboard ports seems really weird. Even more strange is the fact that if I look in the Routerboot setup, it shows all nine ports with the main board's ports first, (as 1,2,3) and the duagterboard ports last (as 4,5,6,7,8,9). Just as you would expect. Craig
Re: [Mikrotik] Ethernet port ordering
Unfortunately that's not our experience with x86. We've had it put ether1 on a random port and then sequentially go through the rest, it might jump up or down the PCI slots, even the onboard changes. It does look that it keeps the settings after reboots and /system resets, but if do another netinstall on it it will change. The most recent box had 4 4 port ethernet cards. Here's the order it was in.. 7 < onboard 11, 10, 9, 8 < first PCI card 15, 14, 13, 12 < second PCI card 2, 1, 17, 16 < third PCI card 6, 5, 4, 3 < fourth PCI card. -Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 7:41 AM To: Mikrotik discussions Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Ethernet port ordering With x86 it should go in order of PCI slots with onboard being first, I believe. How the daughterboard wraps around the other ports is very odd - maybe the PCI (or equivilent) addresses wrap around? On 11/8/08, Randall Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We have 4 port ethernet cards in our main AMD based router running MT. . > When we've swaped to new box, the restore doesn't always get it right. > Mostly due to whether or not onboard lan was enabled. The 4 port card > is always sequential, just sometimes not always at the beginning or end. > > Winbox doesn't show the port number, but terminal screen does under > /int print. Helps me keep them straight after I've renamed them. > > - Original Message - > From: "Josh Luthman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mikrotik discussions" > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 5:48 PM > Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Ethernet port ordering > > >> With that being the case take note if you have to replace the board >> and do a backup/restore! >> >> On 11/7/08, Butch Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Craig Baird wrote: >>> >>>>I've got something weird going on. I just configured an RB532 with >>>>the RB564 daugterboard. Here's what I'm seeing: >>>> >>>>This is very confusing when trying to figure out which port to >>>>physically plug various cables into. I've tried resetting the >>>>config, but it didn't change anything. Any suggestions on what I >>>>can do to get the port ordering straightened back out? >>> >>> This is a common issue. The only "fix" is to rename the interfaces. >>> It is a problem that I know MT has been told about, but they did >>> not, could not or would not (take your pick) change the behaviour. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* >>> * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering* >>> * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member* >>> * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks* >>> >>> ___ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. >> --- Henry Spencer >> ___ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by >> Basin Broadband, Inc., utilizing DefenderMX technology, and is >> believed to be clean. > > > -- > -- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1773 - Release Date: > 11/7/2008 > 9:08 AM > > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > -- Sent from my mobile device Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
Re: [Mikrotik] Ethernet port ordering
With x86 it should go in order of PCI slots with onboard being first, I believe. How the daughterboard wraps around the other ports is very odd - maybe the PCI (or equivilent) addresses wrap around? On 11/8/08, Randall Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We have 4 port ethernet cards in our main AMD based router running MT. . > When we've swaped to new box, the restore doesn't always get it right. > Mostly due to whether or not onboard lan was enabled. The 4 port card is > always sequential, just sometimes not always at the beginning or end. > > Winbox doesn't show the port number, but terminal screen does under /int > print. Helps me keep them straight after I've renamed them. > > - Original Message - > From: "Josh Luthman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mikrotik discussions" > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 5:48 PM > Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Ethernet port ordering > > >> With that being the case take note if you have to replace the board >> and do a backup/restore! >> >> On 11/7/08, Butch Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Craig Baird wrote: >>> >>>>I've got something weird going on. I just configured an RB532 with >>>>the RB564 daugterboard. Here's what I'm seeing: >>>> >>>>This is very confusing when trying to figure out which port to >>>>physically plug various cables into. I've tried resetting the >>>>config, but it didn't change anything. Any suggestions on what I >>>>can do to get the port ordering straightened back out? >>> >>> This is a common issue. The only "fix" is to rename the interfaces. >>> It is a problem that I know MT has been told about, but they did >>> not, could not or would not (take your pick) change the behaviour. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* >>> * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering* >>> * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member* >>> * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks* >>> >>> ___ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. >> --- Henry Spencer >> ___ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by Basin Broadband, Inc., >> utilizing DefenderMX technology, and is >> believed to be clean. > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1773 - Release Date: 11/7/2008 > 9:08 AM > > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > -- Sent from my mobile device Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer
Re: [Mikrotik] Ethernet port ordering
We have 4 port ethernet cards in our main AMD based router running MT. . When we've swaped to new box, the restore doesn't always get it right. Mostly due to whether or not onboard lan was enabled. The 4 port card is always sequential, just sometimes not always at the beginning or end. Winbox doesn't show the port number, but terminal screen does under /int print. Helps me keep them straight after I've renamed them. - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mikrotik discussions" Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Ethernet port ordering With that being the case take note if you have to replace the board and do a backup/restore! On 11/7/08, Butch Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Craig Baird wrote: I've got something weird going on. I just configured an RB532 with the RB564 daugterboard. Here's what I'm seeing: This is very confusing when trying to figure out which port to physically plug various cables into. I've tried resetting the config, but it didn't change anything. Any suggestions on what I can do to get the port ordering straightened back out? This is a common issue. The only "fix" is to rename the interfaces. It is a problem that I know MT has been told about, but they did not, could not or would not (take your pick) change the behaviour. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering* * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member* * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks* ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik -- Sent from my mobile device Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Basin Broadband, Inc., utilizing DefenderMX technology, and is believed to be clean. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1773 - Release Date: 11/7/2008 9:08 AM
Re: [Mikrotik] Ethernet port ordering
Good point. Thanks to both of you for your help. Craig Quoting Josh Luthman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: With that being the case take note if you have to replace the board and do a backup/restore! On 11/7/08, Butch Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Craig Baird wrote: I've got something weird going on. I just configured an RB532 with the RB564 daugterboard. Here's what I'm seeing: This is very confusing when trying to figure out which port to physically plug various cables into. I've tried resetting the config, but it didn't change anything. Any suggestions on what I can do to get the port ordering straightened back out? This is a common issue. The only "fix" is to rename the interfaces. It is a problem that I know MT has been told about, but they did not, could not or would not (take your pick) change the behaviour. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik -- Sent from my mobile device Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
Re: [Mikrotik] Ethernet port ordering
With that being the case take note if you have to replace the board and do a backup/restore! On 11/7/08, Butch Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Craig Baird wrote: > >>I've got something weird going on. I just configured an RB532 with >>the RB564 daugterboard. Here's what I'm seeing: >> >>This is very confusing when trying to figure out which port to >>physically plug various cables into. I've tried resetting the >>config, but it didn't change anything. Any suggestions on what I >>can do to get the port ordering straightened back out? > > This is a common issue. The only "fix" is to rename the interfaces. > It is a problem that I know MT has been told about, but they did > not, could not or would not (take your pick) change the behaviour. > > -- > > * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* > * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * > * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * > * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * > > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > -- Sent from my mobile device Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer
Re: [Mikrotik] Ethernet port ordering
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Craig Baird wrote: I've got something weird going on. I just configured an RB532 with the RB564 daugterboard. Here's what I'm seeing: This is very confusing when trying to figure out which port to physically plug various cables into. I've tried resetting the config, but it didn't change anything. Any suggestions on what I can do to get the port ordering straightened back out? This is a common issue. The only "fix" is to rename the interfaces. It is a problem that I know MT has been told about, but they did not, could not or would not (take your pick) change the behaviour. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks *
