Re: [Mikrotik] Rb750r2 only 16 MB of storage?

2015-11-18 Thread Josh Luthman 
Hadn't heard about that at all...

Winbox says mipsbe at the top by the 750r2, but simps at 7MB still doesn't
fit when you have 5MB of empty space.


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On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Scott Lambert 
wrote:

> is it supposed to use smipsbe instead of mipsbe as with the 941? I don't
> have the 750r2.
>
> On November 18, 2015 3:24:56 PM CST, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> Ya.  System package is just under 7 MB.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
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>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Ty Featherling 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Wow, seriously? That seems like a major oversite.
>>>
>>>  -Ty
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  -Ty
>>>
>>>  On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Josh Luthman >>

  wrote:
>>>
>>>  How are you supposed to upgrade???  There's only about 5 MB left after

>>>  the
>>>
  OS.  You can't uninstall any packages.

  /sys resource print
>
 uptime: 1m
version: 6.25
 build-time: Jan/19/2015 10:11:08
free-memory: 47.5MiB
   total-memory: 64.0MiB
cpu: MIPS 24Kc V7.4
  cpu-count: 1
  cpu-frequency: 850MHz
   cpu-load: 1%
 free-hdd-space: 5.0MiB
total-hdd-space: 16.0MiB


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Re: [Mikrotik] Rb750r2 only 16 MB of storage?

2015-11-18 Thread Grand Avenue Broadband 
The PowerBox storage architecture is a little funky.  

There is 16MB of permanent flash.  But any file uploaded outside the "flash 
folder" (which you would do with upgrade packages) actually goes into RAM, so 
the 16MB is not a limitation (you have 64MB, minus whatever your router is 
using).  

The limitation is that only the flash folder is true permanent storage — 
everything else disappears at reboot.  For upgrade packages that doesn't 
matter.  If you store any other files on the router outside the flash folder, 
they will disappear.  This is particularly problematic for log files.

Normunds warns that "We are starting to move to SPI FLASH in newer products, so 
please take it into account that you will need a device with USB/microSD or 
other storage slot.".  (Ironically, they manufactured the PowerBox with no USB 
or storage slots.)  :-(


> On Nov 18, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Josh Luthman  wrote:
> 
> How are you supposed to upgrade???  There's only about 5 MB left after the
> OS.  You can't uninstall any packages.
> 
>> /sys resource print
>   uptime: 1m
>  version: 6.25
>   build-time: Jan/19/2015 10:11:08
>  free-memory: 47.5MiB
> total-memory: 64.0MiB
>  cpu: MIPS 24Kc V7.4
>cpu-count: 1
>cpu-frequency: 850MHz
> cpu-load: 1%
>   free-hdd-space: 5.0MiB
>  total-hdd-space: 16.0MiB
> 
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Re: [Mikrotik] Rb750r2 only 16 MB of storage?

2015-11-18 Thread Josh Luthman 
Probably but the one big one is 16 MB

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On Nov 18, 2015 6:11 PM, "Tim Warnock" <tim...@timoid.org> wrote:

> It's not partitioned?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com [mailto:
> mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2015 8:51 AM
> To: Scott Lambert <lamb...@lambertfam.org>
> Cc: Mikrotik discussions <mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Rb750r2 only 16 MB of storage?
>
> Hadn't heard about that at all...
>
> Winbox says mipsbe at the top by the 750r2, but simps at 7MB still doesn't
> fit when you have 5MB of empty space.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Scott Lambert <lamb...@lambertfam.org>
> wrote:
>
> > is it supposed to use smipsbe instead of mipsbe as with the 941? I don't
> > have the 750r2.
> >
> > On November 18, 2015 3:24:56 PM CST, Josh Luthman <
> > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Ya.  System package is just under 7 MB.
> >>
> >>
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> Office: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Ty Featherling <
> tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Wow, seriously? That seems like a major oversite.
> >>>
> >>>  -Ty
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  -Ty
> >>>
> >>>  On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  How are you supposed to upgrade???  There's only about 5 MB left after
> >>>>
> >>>  the
> >>>
> >>>>  OS.  You can't uninstall any packages.
> >>>>
> >>>>  /sys resource print
> >>>>>
> >>>> uptime: 1m
> >>>>version: 6.25
> >>>> build-time: Jan/19/2015 10:11:08
> >>>>free-memory: 47.5MiB
> >>>>   total-memory: 64.0MiB
> >>>>cpu: MIPS 24Kc V7.4
> >>>>  cpu-count: 1
> >>>>  cpu-frequency: 850MHz
> >>>>   cpu-load: 1%
> >>>> free-hdd-space: 5.0MiB
> >>>>total-hdd-space: 16.0MiB
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>  Josh Luthman
> >>>>  Office: 937-552-2340
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Re: [Mikrotik] Rb750r2 only 16 MB of storage?

2015-11-18 Thread Josh Luthman 
I'm glad you came here!  I mistakenly tried uploading outside of flash
initially, thinking it wouldn't do anything.  I had no idea they created a
ramdisk.  Not a big fan of this limitation, though I honestly can't imagine
if I've ever seen a router with less than ~12MB of memory available.

Dropped it outside of flash and got my upgrade!


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On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:08 PM, Grand Avenue Broadband <
grandav...@grandavebb.com> wrote:

> The PowerBox storage architecture is a little funky.
>
> There is 16MB of permanent flash.  But any file uploaded outside the
> "flash folder" (which you would do with upgrade packages) actually goes
> into RAM, so the 16MB is not a limitation (you have 64MB, minus whatever
> your router is using).
>
> The limitation is that only the flash folder is true permanent storage —
> everything else disappears at reboot.  For upgrade packages that doesn't
> matter.  If you store any other files on the router outside the flash
> folder, they will disappear.  This is particularly problematic for log
> files.
>
> Normunds warns that "We are starting to move to SPI FLASH in newer
> products, so please take it into account that you will need a device with
> USB/microSD or other storage slot.".  (Ironically, they manufactured the
> PowerBox with no USB or storage slots.)  :-(
>
>
> > On Nov 18, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
> >
> > How are you supposed to upgrade???  There's only about 5 MB left after
> the
> > OS.  You can't uninstall any packages.
> >
> >> /sys resource print
> >   uptime: 1m
> >  version: 6.25
> >   build-time: Jan/19/2015 10:11:08
> >  free-memory: 47.5MiB
> > total-memory: 64.0MiB
> >  cpu: MIPS 24Kc V7.4
> >cpu-count: 1
> >cpu-frequency: 850MHz
> > cpu-load: 1%
> >   free-hdd-space: 5.0MiB
> >  total-hdd-space: 16.0MiB
> >
> >
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Re: [Mikrotik] Rb750r2 only 16 MB of storage?

2015-11-18 Thread Ty Featherling 
Wow, seriously? That seems like a major oversite.

-Ty



-Ty

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> How are you supposed to upgrade???  There's only about 5 MB left after the
> OS.  You can't uninstall any packages.
>
>  > /sys resource print
>uptime: 1m
>   version: 6.25
>build-time: Jan/19/2015 10:11:08
>   free-memory: 47.5MiB
>  total-memory: 64.0MiB
>   cpu: MIPS 24Kc V7.4
> cpu-count: 1
> cpu-frequency: 850MHz
>  cpu-load: 1%
>free-hdd-space: 5.0MiB
>   total-hdd-space: 16.0MiB
>
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Re: [Mikrotik] Rb750r2 only 16 MB of storage?

2015-11-18 Thread Josh Luthman 
Ya.  System package is just under 7 MB.


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On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Ty Featherling 
wrote:

> Wow, seriously? That seems like a major oversite.
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Josh Luthman  >
> wrote:
>
> > How are you supposed to upgrade???  There's only about 5 MB left after
> the
> > OS.  You can't uninstall any packages.
> >
> >  > /sys resource print
> >uptime: 1m
> >   version: 6.25
> >build-time: Jan/19/2015 10:11:08
> >   free-memory: 47.5MiB
> >  total-memory: 64.0MiB
> >   cpu: MIPS 24Kc V7.4
> > cpu-count: 1
> > cpu-frequency: 850MHz
> >  cpu-load: 1%
> >free-hdd-space: 5.0MiB
> >   total-hdd-space: 16.0MiB
> >
> >
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