Re: [Mikrotik Users] Upgrade from 6.35.x to 6.42.6

[Dave via Mikrotik-users]

I have done production upgrades since for eva ago.
I never had an issue in upgrades except on x86 machines where the 
drivers were updated an no longer supported older hardware like sfp modules.
 Too easy roll back a few and order new sfps' and viola easy upgrade to 
6.46.6


If your concerned about a router fail have one already updated with new 
ROS and config on standby.


my 2 cents



On 08/20/2018 02:28 PM, Josh Luthman via Mikrotik-users wrote:

What differences exactly?  What's the diff say?

What does an upgrade have to do with this?  Why can't you just upgrade?


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On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 3:09 PM, Sam Morris via Mikrotik-users 
mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>> wrote:


We have a number of devices to upgrade from 6.35 to 6.42. In
testing the
upgrade in a lab, I'm finding many discrepancies in the "export"
output.

The steps I took were:

(On the production router)  export file=prod-config

- set up an identical spare router on the same RoS as the prod
router,
reset its configuration, and copy/paste the output of the export
command
from the prod router into the spare router

- upgrade the spare router to 6.42.6

- export the upgraded router config (export file=upgraded-spare)

After this, I compare the differences between the files exported
on the
original production router (still running 6.35.x) and the upgraded
spare
router (now running 6.42.6). When doing so, I see many
differences, and
am concerned that when we upgrade the production routers that they
will
no longer work.

Is there anything that may help with this? Tools, documentation,
etc? Or
with RoS automatically do the conversion of commands from the earlier
versions to the newest version?

Thanks
Sam
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Re: [Mikrotik Users] Upgrade from 6.35.x to 6.42.6

[Joe Novak via Mikrotik-users]

"Or with RoS automatically do the conversion of commands from the earlier
versions to the newest version?"

Absolutely.

The biggest changes I recall are the rework of the bridge/switch system
which could change your config dramatically, but you should be able to
clearly see this in the config.


https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=128915
"RouterOS 6.41 contains new bridge implementation that supports hardware
offloading (hw-offload).
This update will convert all interface "master-port" configuration into new
bridge configuration, and eliminate "master-port" option as such.
Bridge will handle all Layer2 forwarding and the use of switch-chip
(hw-offload) will be automatically turned on based on appropriate
conditions.
The rest of RouterOS Switch specific configuration remains untouched in
usual menus for now.
Please, note that downgrading to previous RouterOS versions will not
restore "master-port" configuration, so use backups to restore
configuration on downgrade."



I took 5.x routers directly to 6.40.6 earlier this year. It just worked. I
haven't upgraded anything to the latest (non-bugfix) because I like
sleeping at night, but I know a lot of people run current.


If your worried it not functioning after upgrade take the prod-config and
setup a couple of other mikrotik's and get a working 'prod-lab' on the
bench on 6.35 and upgrade it while watching it/checking it for
functionality.




On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 2:09 PM, Sam Morris via Mikrotik-users <
mikrotik-users@wispa.org> wrote:

> We have a number of devices to upgrade from 6.35 to 6.42. In testing the
> upgrade in a lab, I'm finding many discrepancies in the "export" output.
>
> The steps I took were:
>
> (On the production router)  export file=prod-config
>
> - set up an identical spare router on the same RoS as the prod router,
> reset its configuration, and copy/paste the output of the export command
> from the prod router into the spare router
>
> - upgrade the spare router to 6.42.6
>
> - export the upgraded router config (export file=upgraded-spare)
>
> After this, I compare the differences between the files exported on the
> original production router (still running 6.35.x) and the upgraded spare
> router (now running 6.42.6). When doing so, I see many differences, and
> am concerned that when we upgrade the production routers that they will
> no longer work.
>
> Is there anything that may help with this? Tools, documentation, etc? Or
> with RoS automatically do the conversion of commands from the earlier
> versions to the newest version?
>
> Thanks
> Sam
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Re: [Mikrotik Users] Upgrade from 6.35.x to 6.42.6

[Josh Luthman via Mikrotik-users]

What differences exactly?  What's the diff say?

What does an upgrade have to do with this?  Why can't you just upgrade?


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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 3:09 PM, Sam Morris via Mikrotik-users <
mikrotik-users@wispa.org> wrote:

> We have a number of devices to upgrade from 6.35 to 6.42. In testing the
> upgrade in a lab, I'm finding many discrepancies in the "export" output.
>
> The steps I took were:
>
> (On the production router)  export file=prod-config
>
> - set up an identical spare router on the same RoS as the prod router,
> reset its configuration, and copy/paste the output of the export command
> from the prod router into the spare router
>
> - upgrade the spare router to 6.42.6
>
> - export the upgraded router config (export file=upgraded-spare)
>
> After this, I compare the differences between the files exported on the
> original production router (still running 6.35.x) and the upgraded spare
> router (now running 6.42.6). When doing so, I see many differences, and
> am concerned that when we upgrade the production routers that they will
> no longer work.
>
> Is there anything that may help with this? Tools, documentation, etc? Or
> with RoS automatically do the conversion of commands from the earlier
> versions to the newest version?
>
> Thanks
> Sam
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Re: [Mikrotik Users] Upgrade from 6.35.x to 6.42.6

[Grand Avenue Broadband via Mikrotik-users]

When I see you ask:

> Or with RoS automatically do the conversion of commands from the earlier 
> versions to the newest version?

I think you're asking if your setup scripts (either hand-coded or exported) 
from pre-6.42 routers will import on post-6.42 routers.  Depending on what 
features you use, the answer is no.

I have seen changes in the CLI generated for master/slave ethernets and 
bridges, as expected, but there were also incompatible changes in /tool 
mac-server in 6.41, and I think one other place I can't recall now. In all 
cases, CLI scripts generated before and after the boundary release are refused 
by routers running releases on the other side of the boundary.

In general, MT isn't user-friendly about later versions accepting earlier 
scripts, even when they could do so easily (e.g., the additional field in /ip 
firewall filter limit=… in 6.34, made mandatory for no apparent reason).

Of course, they did a pretty good job of converting the configuration of a 
router to the new format during the upgrade process, but that doesn't help your 
stored scripts.

> On Aug 20, 2018, at 12:09 PM, Sam Morris via Mikrotik-users 
>  wrote:
> 
> We have a number of devices to upgrade from 6.35 to 6.42. In testing the 
> upgrade in a lab, I'm finding many discrepancies in the "export" output.
> 
> The steps I took were:
> 
> (On the production router)  export file=prod-config   
> 
> - set up an identical spare router on the same RoS as the prod router, 
> reset its configuration, and copy/paste the output of the export command 
> from the prod router into the spare router
> 
> - upgrade the spare router to 6.42.6
> 
> - export the upgraded router config (export file=upgraded-spare)
> 
> After this, I compare the differences between the files exported on the 
> original production router (still running 6.35.x) and the upgraded spare 
> router (now running 6.42.6). When doing so, I see many differences, and 
> am concerned that when we upgrade the production routers that they will 
> no longer work.
> 
> Is there anything that may help with this? Tools, documentation, etc? Or 
> with RoS automatically do the conversion of commands from the earlier 
> versions to the newest version?
> 
> Thanks
> Sam
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Re: [Mikrotik Users] Upgrade from 6.35.x to 6.42.6

[Scott Reed via Mikrotik-users]

Mikrotik has been know to make change to the syntax, so the new make 
look different that the old.

I have upgraded 100s of units from as low as 4.15 incrementally to 
6.42.8 without losing anything.  Not that they have much, but upgrades 
just work.

You may not be able to copy the export to another version, though.


On 8/20/2018 15:09, Sam Morris via Mikrotik-users wrote:
> We have a number of devices to upgrade from 6.35 to 6.42. In testing the
> upgrade in a lab, I'm finding many discrepancies in the "export" output.
>
> The steps I took were:
>
> (On the production router)  export file=prod-config   
>
> - set up an identical spare router on the same RoS as the prod router,
> reset its configuration, and copy/paste the output of the export command
> from the prod router into the spare router
>
> - upgrade the spare router to 6.42.6
>
> - export the upgraded router config (export file=upgraded-spare)
>
> After this, I compare the differences between the files exported on the
> original production router (still running 6.35.x) and the upgraded spare
> router (now running 6.42.6). When doing so, I see many differences, and
> am concerned that when we upgrade the production routers that they will
> no longer work.
>
> Is there anything that may help with this? Tools, documentation, etc? Or
> with RoS automatically do the conversion of commands from the earlier
> versions to the newest version?
>
> Thanks
> Sam
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[Mikrotik Users] Upgrade from 6.35.x to 6.42.6

[Sam Morris via Mikrotik-users]

We have a number of devices to upgrade from 6.35 to 6.42. In testing the 
upgrade in a lab, I'm finding many discrepancies in the "export" output.

The steps I took were:

(On the production router)  export file=prod-config 

- set up an identical spare router on the same RoS as the prod router, 
reset its configuration, and copy/paste the output of the export command 
from the prod router into the spare router

- upgrade the spare router to 6.42.6

- export the upgraded router config (export file=upgraded-spare)

After this, I compare the differences between the files exported on the 
original production router (still running 6.35.x) and the upgraded spare 
router (now running 6.42.6). When doing so, I see many differences, and 
am concerned that when we upgrade the production routers that they will 
no longer work.

Is there anything that may help with this? Tools, documentation, etc? Or 
with RoS automatically do the conversion of commands from the earlier 
versions to the newest version?

Thanks
Sam
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