Re: [Mimedefang] obtaining the senders IP address within filter_begin
Although accurate, replacing "If this is ..." with "Where this is..." is better diction. In my particular case, I just missed this part... or overlooked it. :) I'm certain I saw the beginning line " The following global variables are set by mimedefang.pl [snip]" and said to myself "OK this is the correct section" and then began thumbing through the list of variables. Brad/TLD ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] obtaining the senders IP address within filter_begin
On 6/2/2010 11:16 AM, Jan-Pieter Cornet wrote: On 2010 Jun 2, at 1:05 , - wrote: --- On Tue, 6/1/10, TLD MimeDefang wrote: RE: $RelayAddr documentation. I consider the documentation as accurate as written. However, English is my first language. Maybe non-native speakers have a different view. I have a slightly different view. I consider the documentation accurate, but occasionally unclear when used as a reference manual. I do not believe that the fact that I'm not a native english speaker has much to do with this, but that might be hubris on my part :) My opinion is that the manual is accurate, efficient & easy to maintain. However, this approach isn't always user-friendly. Likely, the user-friendly way is to duplicate the information under each section. regards, KAM ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] obtaining the senders IP address within filter_begin
On 2010 Jun 2, at 1:05 , - wrote: --- On Tue, 6/1/10, TLD MimeDefang wrote: RE: $RelayAddr documentation. I consider the documentation as accurate as written. However, English is my first language. Maybe non-native speakers have a different view. I have a slightly different view. I consider the documentation accurate, but occasionally unclear when used as a reference manual. I do not believe that the fact that I'm not a native english speaker has much to do with this, but that might be hubris on my part :) -- Jan-Pieter Cornet Systeembeheer XS4ALL Internet bv Internet: www.xs4all.nl Contact: www.xs4all.nl/contact ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] obtaining the senders IP address within filter_begin
--- On Tue, 6/1/10, TLD MimeDefang wrote: > RE: $RelayAddr documentation. I consider the documentation as accurate as written. However, English is my first language. Maybe non-native speakers have a different view. ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] obtaining the senders IP address within filter_begin
--- On Tue, 6/1/10, TLD MimeDefang wrote: > > ... in addition, some of them are available in filter_relay, > > filter_sender or filter_recipient. If this is the case, it will > > be noted below." Although accurate, replacing "If this is ..." with "Where this is..." is better diction. ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] obtaining the senders IP address within filter_begin
David F. Skoll wrote: It's correct. However, the top of the section says: "All of these variables are always available to filter_begin, filter, filter_multipart and filter_end. In addition, some of them are available in filter_relay, filter_sender or filter_recipient. If this is the case, it will be noted below." Drat. I thought I was so thorough too. :) I appreciate the assistance! Brad/TLD ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] obtaining the senders IP address within filter_begin
TLD MimeDefang wrote: > ***This variable is available in filter_relay, filter_sender and > filter_recipient.*** It's correct. However, the top of the section says: "All of these variables are always available to filter_begin, filter, filter_multipart and filter_end. In addition, some of them are available in filter_relay, filter_sender or filter_recipient. If this is the case, it will be noted below." As Jan-Pieter Cornet pointed out, the wording could be improved. Regards, David. ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] obtaining the senders IP address within filter_begin
David F. Skoll wrote: I see $RelayAddr as a global, but is only available in _relay, _sender, and _recipient and that doesn't do me any good. Umm? What makes you think it's only available there? From the man page (* added for highlight): --- $RelayAddr The IP address of the sending relay (as a string consisting of four dot-separated decimal numbers.) One potential use of $RelayAddr is to limit mailing to certain lists to people within your organization. ***This variable is available in filter_relay, filter_sender and filter_recipient.*** --- So that is not correct? ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] obtaining the senders IP address within filter_begin
On 2010 Jun 1, at 1:57 , David F. Skoll wrote: I see $RelayAddr as a global, but is only available in _relay, _sender, and _recipient and that doesn't do me any good. Umm? What makes you think it's only available there? Probably because the docs are slightly unclear if you quick search them: $RelayAddr The IP address of the sending relay (as a string consisting of four dot-separated decimal numbers.) One potential use of $RelayAddr is to limit mailing to certain lists to people within your organization. This variable is available in filter_relay, filter_sender and filter_recipient. That doesn't say the variable is also available in filter_begin, filter, filter_end, etc. That only becomes clear if you read the start of that section, which says: GLOBAL VARIABLES SET BY MIMEDEFANG.PL The following global variables are set by mimedefang.pl and are avail‐ able for use in your filter. All of these variables are always avail‐ able to filter_begin, filter, filter_multipart and filter_end. In addition, some of them are available in filter_relay, filter_sender or filter_recipient. If this is the case, it will be noted below. ... but most people probably don't get that far. The addition of the word "also" in some of the manpages might make things a little clearer. Or just list all functions where the variable is available, or say something like: "This variable is available in filter() and the other message body filtering functions, and also in filter_relay, filter_sender, ... [etc]" And then define "message body filtering functions" somewhere in the start of the section to be filter_begin, filter, filter_multipart and filter_end. (I can't recall exactly - I know I did some work on this section of the manpage because of the introduction of read_commands_file(), could be this is partly my fault). -- Jan-Pieter Cornet Systeembeheer XS4ALL Internet bv Internet: www.xs4all.nl Contact: www.xs4all.nl/contact ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] obtaining the senders IP address within filter_begin
TLD MimeDefang wrote: > Does mimedefang provide the IP address of the sender within > filter_begin? Of course. > If so, I cannot find where. man mimedefang-filter Then search for GLOBAL VARIABLES SET BY MIMEDEFANG.PL > I see $RelayAddr as a global, but is only available in > _relay, _sender, and _recipient and that doesn't do me any good. Umm? What makes you think it's only available there? -- David. ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
