Re: problems compiling -current kernel

2006-08-07 Thread Francisco Valladolid
Yes, Thank you, I see this note, I'm compiling gcc !

Thank you very much.

On 8/8/06, Matthias Kilian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 01:18:02AM -0500, Francisco Valladolid wrote:
> > the -current guide in OpenBSD FAQ, dodn't contain sufficient support for
> me
> > at this moment.
>
> http://www.openbsd.org/faq/current.html#20060727
>



-- 
---
BSD - Unix simplicity.
Francisco Valladolid Hdez.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: saslauthd issue?

2006-08-07 Thread Nick Guenther

On 8/8/06, J Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 10:51:02PM -0700, the unit calling itself Kian Mohageri 
wrote:
> >
> Have you tried escaping the $ char to make sure the shell doesn't interpret
> it?
>
> V\$B14xVu

Yes - sorry I failed to mention that... esc'ing the $ does get by, but
I've just never ever heard of having to escape a password... does that
seem logical? shouldn't it at least be documented?


It's perfectly logical, though it is a bit strange. I've never heard
of a password with a $ in it though.

To be sure, you can just always quote the password with single quotes.
This will prevent the shell from interpreting the $ specially.

-Nick



Re: problems compiling -current kernel

2006-08-07 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 01:18:02AM -0500, Francisco Valladolid wrote:
> the -current guide in OpenBSD FAQ, dodn't contain sufficient support for me
> at this moment.

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/current.html#20060727



Re: saslauthd issue?

2006-08-07 Thread Kian Mohageri
On 8/7/06, J Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 10:51:02PM -0700, the unit calling itself Kian
> Mohageri wrote:
> > >
> > >B14xVu: Undefined variable.
> > >
> > >where "B14xVu" is a fragment of the password. The full password was:
> > >V$B14xVu
> > >
> > >I tried this on other user/password combinations, and got reasonable
> > >results. But the "$" char seems to cause a problem consistently. In all
> > >other cases, the result was either:
> >
> >
> > Have you tried escaping the $ char to make sure the shell doesn't
> interpret
> > it?
> >
> > V\$B14xVu
>
> Yes - sorry I failed to mention that... esc'ing the $ does get by, but
> I've just never ever heard of having to escape a password... does that
> seem logical? shouldn't it at least be documented?



It isn't that unusual.  The program you're testing with is run on the
command line, so special characters are going to be interpreted by the
shell.

Might be worth a note in the man page example or something but it's pretty
common knowledge (not saying you should've known that or anything)

Kian



problems compiling -current kernel

2006-08-07 Thread Francisco Valladolid
Hi, folks

Today I update my src tree in -current, I have some problems compiling it.

I'm using OpenBSD 3.9 -current in amd64 port.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC]% sudo make depend
Password:
mkdir -p /usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC/lib/kern
depending the kern library objects
depending the compat library objects
sh /usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC/../../../../kern/genassym.sh cc
-Werror -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes  -Wno-uninitialized
-Wno-format -Wno-main -Wno-sign-compare  -Wstack-larger-than-2047
-mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -fno-strict-aliasing  -mno-sse2 -mno-sse
-mno-3dnow -mno-mmx -msoft-float  -fno-builtin-printf -fno-builtin-log
-fno-omit-frame-pointer -O2 -pipe -nostdinc -I.
-I/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC/../../../../arch
-I/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC/../../../.. -DDDB -DDIAGNOSTIC
-DKTRACE -DACCOUNTING -DKMEMSTATS -DPTRACE -DCRYPTO -DSYSVMSG -DSYSVSEM
-DSYSVSHM -DUVM_SWAP_ENCRYPT -DCOMPAT_35 -DCOMPAT_43 -DLKM -DFFS
-DFFS_SOFTUPDATES -DUFS_DIRHASH -DQUOTA -DEXT2FS -DMFS -DXFS -DTCP_SACK
-DTCP_ECN -DTCP_SIGNATURE -DNFSCLIENT -DNFSSERVER -DCD9660 -DUDF -DMSDOSFS
-DFIFO -DPORTAL -DINET -DALTQ -DINET6 -DIPSEC -DPPP_BSDCOMP -DPPP_DEFLATE
-DMROUTING -DBOOT_CONFIG -DUSER_PCICONF -DAPERTURE -DPCIVERBOSE -DUSBVERBOSE
-DWSDISPLAY_COMPAT_USL -DWSDISPLAY_COMPAT_RAWKBD
-DWSDISPLAY_DEFAULTSCREENS="6" -DWSDISPLAY_COMPAT_PCVT -D_KERNEL -Damd64
-Dx86_64  -DMAXUSERS=32 <
/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC/../../../../arch/amd64/amd64/genassym.cf
> assym.h.tmp &&  mv -f assym.h.tmp assym.h
cc1: error: unrecognized option `-Wstack-larger-than-2047'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC (line 556 of Makefile).
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC]%


the -current guide in OpenBSD FAQ, dodn't contain sufficient support for me
at this moment.

Best Regards.

-- 
---
BSD - Unix simplicity.
Francisco Valladolid Hdez.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: saslauthd issue?

2006-08-07 Thread J Moore
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 10:51:02PM -0700, the unit calling itself Kian Mohageri 
wrote:
> >
> >B14xVu: Undefined variable.
> >
> >where "B14xVu" is a fragment of the password. The full password was:
> >V$B14xVu
> >
> >I tried this on other user/password combinations, and got reasonable
> >results. But the "$" char seems to cause a problem consistently. In all
> >other cases, the result was either:
> 
> 
> Have you tried escaping the $ char to make sure the shell doesn't interpret
> it?
> 
> V\$B14xVu

Yes - sorry I failed to mention that... esc'ing the $ does get by, but 
I've just never ever heard of having to escape a password... does that 
seem logical? shouldn't it at least be documented?

Thnx,
J



Re: saslauthd issue?

2006-08-07 Thread Kian Mohageri
> B14xVu: Undefined variable.
>
> where "B14xVu" is a fragment of the password. The full password was:
> V$B14xVu
>
> I tried this on other user/password combinations, and got reasonable
> results. But the "$" char seems to cause a problem consistently. In all
> other cases, the result was either:


Have you tried escaping the $ char to make sure the shell doesn't interpret
it?

V\$B14xVu



Re: Dovecot package/ports report

2006-08-07 Thread Michael
I am terribly sorry, accidently clicked on the wrong recicient list... :)

Please ignore.

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 7:42:06 +0200, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> just wanted to let you know that the current version as it comes from
> ports (same as package) got some problems when trying to upload Emails
> into an IMAP directory.
> 
> I patched my ports to the version it was supposed to be, before it got
> reverted, and now it works fine with RC 5.
> 
> Since RC 6 is already out, the version used for release should be RC 6+
> ...
> 
> Michael



Re: OpenBSD and high availability

2006-08-07 Thread Dag Richards

Nick Holland wrote:

knitti wrote:


On 8/7/06, Jens Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

While the networking part can be handled by carp, I'm collecting 
ideas on how
to keep the local file systems in synch - especially for ftp users 
and the
mailinglist archives. The synchronization will be done via a 
dedicated cross

coonect cable directly between the boxes.



while I would do it with rsync (I know, depends on what you want to do),
I don't see any reason why ccd'ing two large nfs-exposed files shouldn't
work. But I think this would be more ugly and complicated than rsyncing
every x minutes...



Simplicity is your friend.
rsync is simple, easy to understand, and easy to recover.

mirroring over NFS is not simple.  My money would be that you would 
spend less time up and lose more data than a single, completely 
non-redundant workstation (yes, no rsync, but with a good backup plan, 
which you need anyway)...all in the name of "high redundancy".


No, I can't prove it, but I much prefer the simple solution which has 
simple and understood problems, than the system which is never supposed 
to break...and will anyway, in ways you never imagined, and may not be 
able to figure out.  Experience tends to suggest I'm right on that...


Nick.



Seconded, we buy a lot of expensive proprietary gear and ware here.  No 
one truly understands most of it, vendors wont tell us about it.  It is 
never supposed to break and when it does it is expensive to get fixed.


Home grown is great if it is dead simple/straight forward/elegant. If 
you are going to go make a hairball you may as well buy one.  That way 
you can get to the pain  quicker and it will take less time.




Dovecot package/ports report

2006-08-07 Thread Michael
Hey,

just wanted to let you know that the current version as it comes from ports 
(same as package) got some problems when trying to upload Emails into an IMAP 
directory.

I patched my ports to the version it was supposed to be, before it got 
reverted, and now it works fine with RC 5.

Since RC 6 is already out, the version used for release should be RC 6+ ...

Michael



saslauthd issue?

2006-08-07 Thread J Moore
I'm in the process of getting dovecot set up, and unfortunately that 
also entails re-building sendmail to add SASL support, etc. I've 
installed the "cyrus-sasl-2.1.21p2.tgz" package on OBSD 3.9, and 
following a couple of on-line "HOW-TO's" for help.

As I was inching my way along, testing as I go, I noticed something odd.

/usr/local/sbin/testsaslauthd -u user -p password

(NOTE: The testsaslauthd app is used to verify the saslauthd daemon is 
working properly; I assume it calls saslauthd, but there is no man page 
for it, so this is just a guess.)

This test worked on the first user id and pw I tried, so I assumed 
saslauthd was working correctly. Later, while troubleshooting a stubborn 
issue, I tried it with another userid and password, and got the 
following result:

B14xVu: Undefined variable.

where "B14xVu" is a fragment of the password. The full password was:
V$B14xVu

I tried this on other user/password combinations, and got reasonable 
results. But the "$" char seems to cause a problem consistently. In all 
other cases, the result was either:

0: OK "Success."
- or -
0: NO "authentication failed"

At this point, I'm not sure what's going on. I'd appreciate it if 
someone else could try this experiment, and post your findings here.

Thanks,
J



Re: reboot on IBM xSeries 336

2006-08-07 Thread riwanlky

Thanks all, use config to modify the bsd and it work.

Brgds,
Riwan

At 10:27 AM 8/7/2006 +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote:

On 2006/08/07 16:05, riwanlky wrote:
> Thanks, I tried to installed it using FTP, install completed. However 
when I

> reboot, it still try to use pcibios0. How do I disable to pcibios0 forever.

See config(8) "Kernel modification".




Re: OpenBSD and high availability

2006-08-07 Thread Nick Holland

knitti wrote:

On 8/7/06, Jens Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
While the networking part can be handled by carp, I'm collecting ideas 
on how
to keep the local file systems in synch - especially for ftp users and 
the
mailinglist archives. The synchronization will be done via a dedicated 
cross

coonect cable directly between the boxes.


while I would do it with rsync (I know, depends on what you want to do),
I don't see any reason why ccd'ing two large nfs-exposed files shouldn't
work. But I think this would be more ugly and complicated than rsyncing
every x minutes...


Simplicity is your friend.
rsync is simple, easy to understand, and easy to recover.

mirroring over NFS is not simple.  My money would be that you would 
spend less time up and lose more data than a single, completely 
non-redundant workstation (yes, no rsync, but with a good backup plan, 
which you need anyway)...all in the name of "high redundancy".


No, I can't prove it, but I much prefer the simple solution which has 
simple and understood problems, than the system which is never supposed 
to break...and will anyway, in ways you never imagined, and may not be 
able to figure out.  Experience tends to suggest I'm right on that...


Nick.



Re: DMESG question

2006-08-07 Thread Nick Holland

Stuart Henderson wrote:

On 2006/08/07 16:15, Gabriel George POPA wrote:
1) When the OS generates too much messages, old messages are lost 
(oldest lines present in `dmesg` are lost).
What can I do to see ALL messages ever recorded for dmesg printing? More 
precisely, take a look at my `dmesg`:


/var/log/messages if they're not rotated too far away
(change newsyslog.conf if you want to keep them for longer).


PLEASE, NO.  Bad advice.

Either use the dmesg command or the /var/run/dmesg.boot  DO NOT pull 
your dmesg out of messages if you are seriously expecting help from 
others.  If for some reason messages is your only option, carefully edit 
out the date and time stuff before posting.  If you just paste in your 
messages output raw, I'm unlikely to spend much time looking at your 
query.  Some people may...but not me.


Which would you rather dig through looking for the one little gem that 
explains a problem?


This:
Jul 24 09:03:27 njh-9 /bsd: OpenBSD 3.9-current (GENERIC) #922: Wed Jun 
28 23:06

:50 MDT 2006
Jul 24 09:03:27 njh-9 /bsd: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/

compile/GENERIC
Jul 24 09:03:27 njh-9 /bsd: cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1300MHz 
("GenuineInt

el" 686-class) 1.30 GHz
Jul 24 09:03:27 njh-9 /bsd: cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PG

E,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM
Jul 24 09:03:27 njh-9 /bsd: real mem  = 133296128 (130172K)
Jul 24 09:03:27 njh-9 /bsd: avail mem = 114892800 (112200K)
Jul 24 09:03:27 njh-9 /bsd: using 1652 buffers containing 6766592 bytes 
(6608K)

of memory
Jul 24 09:03:27 njh-9 /bsd: mainbus0 (root)
Jul 24 09:03:27 njh-9 /bsd: bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 
11/30/00,

BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xffe90, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0450 (97 entries)
Jul 24 09:03:27 njh-9 /bsd: bios0: Dell Computer Corporation Dimension 8100
 ...

or this:
OpenBSD 3.9-current (GENERIC) #922: Wed Jun 28 23:06:50 MDT 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1300MHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.30 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,

DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM
real mem  = 133296128 (130172K)
avail mem = 114892800 (112200K)
using 1652 buffers containing 6766592 bytes (6608K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 11/30/00, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 
0xffe90, SMB

IOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0450 (97 entries)
bios0: Dell Computer Corporation Dimension 8100
 ,,,

All the date and time crap doesn't add anything for us, it just makes it 
completely unreadable, at least to me.


If you want our help on something, MAKE IT EASY FOR US.  Note how ugly 
that all looks, I was (intentionally) completely careless with the line 
wraps, and it STILL looks a lot better than some of the crap you guys 
post to the lists.


But watch this: If I use my mail client smartly:


OpenBSD 3.9-current (GENERIC) #922: Wed Jun 28 23:06:50 MDT 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1300MHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.30 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM
real mem  = 133296128 (130172K)
avail mem = 114892800 (112200K)
using 1652 buffers containing 6766592 bytes (6608K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 11/30/00, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xffe90, SMB
IOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0450 (97 entries)
bios0: Dell Computer Corporation Dimension 8100

  ...
wow...so much more readable (assuming I didn't really snip my dmesg, of 
course).  Yes, it took at least ten seconds longer to do that than it 
did to stupidly copy/paste, but I can assure you, I'd spend a lot more 
time reading it without stupid wrapping.


Nick.



Re: Choices for Soekris "disk drives"

2006-08-07 Thread MikeM
|On 7/15/05, Frank Denis (Jedi/Sector One) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
|> On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 07:55:59PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
|> >*AVOID* 2.5" IDE Laptop drives.
|> >I've had pretty bad experience with them,
|> >1. They heat up a lot
|> >2. Are slow
|> >3. Fail quite often (this could be due to the heat)
|> >(face problems with Toshiba and IBM)
|>
|>   I have the opposite experience. My Net4801 is running 24/7 for one
|year with
|> a Momentus drive (5400 RPMs) and it is neither slow nor hot.
|>
|>   Hitachi also produces drives that are designed to run 24/7
(Eudurastar,
|> now obsoleted by E7K60 and E7K100 drives). My Mac Mini is running
with a
|> 7K100 (80 Gb, 7200 RPM, 8 Mb cache) drive and it is as fast as any
3,5"
|> drive. It seems to heat up more than the Momentus since the fan
often
|wakes
|> up, but it works reliably.

 =

Interesting.  My MacMini Duo that I bought in April of this year has a
Momentus 5400 rpm 80GB drive.   When did you buy yours?



Re: OpenBSD -current freeze hourly(half an hour)

2006-08-07 Thread Bibby Michael
I will disable wpi0 for test later, thanks :)

>Do you have the right firmware loaded?

I downloaded and installed the firmware which noticed in OpenBSD's
manual: wpi:
//http://damien.bergamini.free.fr/packages/openbsd/wpi-firmware-1.13.tgz

$ man wpi
--skip
//

The driver needs at least version 1.13 of the following firmware file,
which is loaded when an interface is brought up:

  /etc/firmware/wpi-ucode

This firmware file is not free because Intel refuses to grant distribu-
tion rights without contractual obligations.  As a result, even though
OpenBSD includes the driver, the firmware file cannot be included and
users have to download this file on their own.  The official person to
state your views to about this issue is [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
(858) 391 1857.

A prepackaged version of the firmware, designed to be used with
pkg_add(1) <
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=pkg_add&sektion=1&arch=i386&apropos=0&manpath=OpenBSD+Current>,
can be found at:

/http://damien.bergamini.free.fr/packages/openbsd/wpi-firmware-1.13.tgz/

 skip -
//
//Tobias Ulmer wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 03:02:22PM +0800, Bibby Michael wrote:
>
>> Kernel panic:
>>
>> I use OpenBSD 4.0-beta(snapshots).
>>
>> ---
>> anic: pool_get(mclpl): free list modified; magic=a4153cb5; page
0xd8038000;
>> item addr 0xd8038800
>> Stopped at  Debugger+0x4:   leave
>>
>> RUN AT LEAST 'trace' AND 'ps' AND INCLUDE OUTPUT WHEN REPORTING THIS
PANIC!
>> DO NOT EVEN BOTHER REPORTING THIS WITHOUT INCLUDING THAT INFORMATION!
>>
>> ddb{0}> trace
>> Debuuger (c,d1b0a25e,6c,d8038800,d074d5e0 at Debugger+0x4
>> panic (d0653e40, d0655d09, a4153c65, d803800, d8038800) at panic+0x63
>> pool_get(d074d5e0,0,e910fce0,d802ab36, d1963406) at pool_get+0x2f9
>> ieee80211_wep_crypt(d1b0a030, d8033f00, 0,4) at ieee80211_wep_crypt+0x56)
>> ieee80211_input(d1b0a030, d8033f00, d1ae9a00, 23, 0, d8028818) at
>> ieee80211_input+0x3e4
>> wpi_rx_intr(d1b0a000,d8028800, d1b0afa4, 16, 0) at wpi_rx_intr+0x3c9
>> wpi_notif_intr(d1b0a000, d0459f0d, e910ff18, d0459db6) at
>> wpi_notif_intr+0xee
>> wpi_intr(d1b0a000) at wpi_intr+0xca
>> Xintr_ioapic4() at Xintr_ioapic4+0x74
>> --interrupt-
>> apm_cpu_idle(0,0,0,0,0) at apm_cpu_idle+0x4a
>>
>> ddb{0}> ps
>> COMMAND only:
>> wget, ksh, dhclient, update, inted, cron, getty, sendmail, syslogd,
crypto,
>> aiodoned, reaper, usbtask, usb[0-4], cardslot0, cleaner, wskbd_hotkey,
>> pfpurge, pagedaemon, kmthread, init, swapper
>>
>> I only use wget in console, without any X-window application running.
>> sendmail/cron/syslogd are system services which bringed up by rc.conf.
>>
>>
>>
> Try to disable wpi(4) and see if it still crashes.
>
> Do you have the right firmware loaded? I don't own such a card but i
> remember people having problems with it because they used firmware for
> -stable and run a -current OS.
>
> Just guessing...
>
> Tobias



Re: Choices for Soekris "disk drives"

2006-08-07 Thread Pailloncy Jean-GĂ©rard

Le 8 ao{t 06 ` 01:01, Stuart Henderson a icrit :


Gustavo Rios wrote:

Which seagate momentus are you using?


I don't think Frank is using that one any more.
Google: pureftpd hard disk death

"They all suck, it's just that they take it in turns to suck most."

Every hard drive I've put in a 4801 has died in <1yr.
Different manufacturers, 4200 and 5400rpm.

Same things to me.
6 months of logging on standard drive just burn the disk.

I use now 24x7 drive with extended temp range, and I hope it will  
service more than 6 months.

Pretty expensive, so...

JG



Re: BGP Lookingglass

2006-08-07 Thread Sylwester S. Biernacki
On Monday, August 7, 2006, at 12:40:40, misc@openbsd.org wrote:

> On 2006/08/07 11:46, Philip Olsson wrote:
>> Im woundering if there exists a looking glass suitable for public access
>> over http that uses the new read only socket in openbgpd ?

> http://null-ptr.net/sw/lg/ works -
> besides the mentioned files you will need:

> bgpd_flags="-r /var/www/var/run/bgpd.sock"
> everything listed in `ldd /usr/sbin/bgpctl' output (ld.so, lib's)

> you probably have /var set as nosuid, this means you can't
> use ping/traceroute in the jail unless you're willing to relax
> that (and you can't use sudo to run them since that too is
> setuid).

> Might be worth also pointing out some SSH modification here,
> http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2006-04/1811.html
> which (I haven't tested, but..) should let you separate webserver
> from routers and just forward the RO control socket on, which
> makes a certain amount of sense to me, especially on a public
> access setup.

We have written our own, which also uses id_rsa keys and users on
other route-servers. We had to give up with jailing apache cause too
much problems happened and now we have the following:

http://www.pl-ix.pl/tools.asp  (.asp is fake of course, our programmer
loves such playing, it's normal PHP file)

If anyone want I can send sources or publish it somewhere ;-)

-- 
Sylwester S. Biernacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-NET, http://www.xnet.com.pl/



Re: spamd greylist and stutter/delay

2006-08-07 Thread jared r r spiegel
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 12:26:18PM -0400, Will H. Backman wrote:
> I have spamd get up in a simple greylist mode, but I left the default 
> /etc/spamd.conf file intact.
<...>
> I'm not running spamd-setup.

  /etc/rc is tho.  once, during boot; after it loads spamd, /etc/rc
  unconditionally fires of spamd-setup.

> By default, spamd is stuttering for 10 seconds, but watching 
> /var/log/daemon, I also noticed that connections from spews and other 
> lists are lasting for over 400 seconds.

  well, if they're from lists that are in the default /etc/spamd.conf,
  i bet $1 it's /etc/rc that is catching you by surprise.

  because of spamd-setup being fired,  is populated with those
  IPs and then they'll get the stutter forever and ever

> Does spamd do anything else with /etc/spamd.conf besides set up white 
> and black lists?  
> Does this file effect the stutter or delay of connections?

  nope; [/etc/spamd.conf] only affects what IPs get called 'black'
  after the candidate IPs for  are filled in by the
  ':black:' stanzas and/or subsequently removed by ':white:' stanzas.
  
  whatever's left after the "fill up black, remove white" business
  gets sent to spamd as "fill up  with these IPs".

  /etc/spamd.conf, afaict, is also never read by spamd(8); see
  above re /etc/rc 

-- 

  jared

[ openbsd 3.9-current GENERIC ( jul 29 ) // i386 ]



Re: Choices for Soekris "disk drives"

2006-08-07 Thread Stuart Henderson
Gustavo Rios wrote:
> Which seagate momentus are you using?

I don't think Frank is using that one any more.
Google: pureftpd hard disk death

"They all suck, it's just that they take it in turns to suck most."

Every hard drive I've put in a 4801 has died in <1yr.
Different manufacturers, 4200 and 5400rpm.

Haven't tried any 24x7 rated ones, because you can't really buy
them in most places.



PF development

2006-08-07 Thread Pierre-Yves Rofes
Hi guys,

I've got some skills in C language, and as a project for my studies, I'd
like to develop a layer-7 filtering tool with PF, like this one which
works with Linux/Netfilter: http://l7-filter.sourceforge.net/

So I'd like to know if there is some documentation, book or whatever
explaining precisely the PF internals, and how to add some userspace
features, because I guess it's a not a good idea to add some regexp code
in kernelspace :).

I googled a bit, and I've found the book "Building Firewalls with OpenBSD
and PF, 2nd ed." by Jacek Artymiak. I've read the online available
chapters, it sure seems interesting for setting up a firewall with PF, but
I don't think it deals with its internal mechanisms.

Naturally, I'm also looking at the pfctl sources included in src.tar.gz,
but some help/advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for your time.

P.S: I didn't know where to ask, but misc was the most appropriated I guess.

-- 
Regards,
Pierre-Yves Rofes



Re: Choices for Soekris "disk drives"

2006-08-07 Thread Chris Zakelj
Gustavo Rios wrote:
> Which seagate momentus are you using?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> On 7/15/05, Frank Denis (Jedi/Sector One) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 07:55:59PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
>> >*AVOID* 2.5" IDE Laptop drives.
>> >I've had pretty bad experience with them,
>> >1. They heat up a lot
>> >2. Are slow
>> >3. Fail quite often (this could be due to the heat)
>> >(face problems with Toshiba and IBM)
>>
>>   I have the opposite experience. My Net4801 is running 24/7 for one
>> year with
>> a Momentus drive (5400 RPMs) and it is neither slow nor hot.
I'm on something like three months non-stop of 24/7 on my Samsung
MP0402H w/ 4801.

wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: 
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 38204MB, 78242976 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2



Re: Choices for Soekris "disk drives"

2006-08-07 Thread Peter
--- Gustavo Rios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Which seagate momentus are you using?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> On 7/15/05, Frank Denis (Jedi/Sector One) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 07:55:59PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> > >*AVOID* 2.5" IDE Laptop drives.
> > >I've had pretty bad experience with them,
> > >1. They heat up a lot
> > >2. Are slow
> > >3. Fail quite often (this could be due to the heat)
> > >(face problems with Toshiba and IBM)
> >
> >   I have the opposite experience. My Net4801 is running 24/7 for
> one year with
> > a Momentus drive (5400 RPMs) and it is neither slow nor hot.
> >
> >   Hitachi also produces drives that are designed to run 24/7
> (Eudurastar,
> > now obsoleted by E7K60 and E7K100 drives). My Mac Mini is running
> with a
> > 7K100 (80 Gb, 7200 RPM, 8 Mb cache) drive and it is as fast as any
> 3,5"
> > drive. It seems to heat up more than the Momentus since the fan
> often wakes
> > up, but it works reliably.


I am intending on putting a WD Scorpio in my 4801 unit.  I'll let you
know how it goes.
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 



Apache proxy settings not working

2006-08-07 Thread Bruno S. Delbono

Hi folks,

I've done this before on different hosts but for some this doesn't work 
on our OpenBSD gateway. I'd appreciate any help.


I have a couple of apps (webmail) that sit behind the OpenBSD gateway 
running httpd. When I enable the proxy module and try to access the app 
behind it fails with this error:


Mon Aug  7 13:20:42 2006] [notice] Apache/1.3.29 (Unix) 
mod_gzip/1.3.26.1a PHP/5.0.5 mod_ssl/2.8.16 OpenSSL/0.9.7g configured -- 
resuming normal operations

[Mon Aug  7 13:20:42 2006] [notice] Accept mutex: sysvsem (Default: sysvsem)
[Mon Aug  7 13:20:47 2006] [error] [client 24.87.68.160] (22)Invalid 
argument: proxy connect to 0.0.0.0 port 81 failed
[Mon Aug  7 13:20:47 2006] [error] [client 24.87.68.160] (22)Invalid 
argument: proxy connect to 0.0.0.0 port 81 failed
[Mon Aug  7 13:20:48 2006] [error] [client 24.87.68.160] (22)Invalid 
argument: proxy connect to 0.0.0.0 port 81 failed
[Mon Aug  7 13:20:49 2006] [error] [client 24.87.68.160] (22)Invalid 
argument: proxy connect to 0.0.0.0 port 81 failed


As you can see, it's not taking the IP address of the destination proxy 
host and thus fails.


Here is what I have in my httpd.conf

# Proxy
LoadModule proxy_module  /usr/lib/apache/modules/libproxy.so

# Settings

ProxyRequests Off
ProxyVia On
NoCache *


# Virtual Host

   ServerName webmail.sendmail.tv
   ProxyRequests Off
   ProxyPass / http://10.10.33.3:81/
   ProxyPassReverse  / http://10.10.33.3:81/


Warm Regards,

-Bruno

--

Bruno Delbono | Systems Engineer | Open-Systems Group
Websites: www.mail.ac www.sendmail.tv www.open-systems.org




Re: Choices for Soekris "disk drives"

2006-08-07 Thread Gustavo Rios

Which seagate momentus are you using?

Thanks in advance.

On 7/15/05, Frank Denis (Jedi/Sector One) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 07:55:59PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
>*AVOID* 2.5" IDE Laptop drives.
>I've had pretty bad experience with them,
>1. They heat up a lot
>2. Are slow
>3. Fail quite often (this could be due to the heat)
>(face problems with Toshiba and IBM)

  I have the opposite experience. My Net4801 is running 24/7 for one year with
a Momentus drive (5400 RPMs) and it is neither slow nor hot.

  Hitachi also produces drives that are designed to run 24/7 (Eudurastar,
now obsoleted by E7K60 and E7K100 drives). My Mac Mini is running with a
7K100 (80 Gb, 7200 RPM, 8 Mb cache) drive and it is as fast as any 3,5"
drive. It seems to heat up more than the Momentus since the fan often wakes
up, but it works reliably.




Re: dns query

2006-08-07 Thread Stefan Kell
Hi,

 Original-Nachricht 
Datum: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 14:58:52 +0700
Von: riwanlky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An: misc@openbsd.org
Betreff: dns query

> Hi all,
> 
> I don't know if it is the right place to write about this problem.
> I am running OpenBSD 3.9, however it seem to me that my OpenBSD
> box always send a DNS query for:
> - email sending (from internal and external) I had tried to add in my
> resolv.conf to use nameserver localhost. So that @mcojaya.com
> will not go to other DNS server for query. I use /etc/hosts to add
> 127.0.0.1 mcojaya.com
> I have problem that when the internet is down, my local users were
> not able to send email because of DNS query check.
> - nagios. I use check_ping, and it seem that it will always query
> DNS for every ip address (host) that I setup to check_ping.
> 
> I did not modify any inetd.conf
> 
> Thanks, best regards,
> riwan


have a look at DNSMASQ, which is in ports, I think. Homepage is at 
"http://www.thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/doc.html"; and fills probably all your 
needs.

Regards

Stefan Kell



Re: Tyan v. Supermicro for Opteron?

2006-08-07 Thread Nick Shank

Karsten McMinn wrote:

On 8/7/06, Dustin Lundquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I've used both a Tyan S2892 and Supermicro H8SSL and H8DA8, the Tyan
board had a number of weird BIOS issues - some times it would boot,
reset the BIOS 5 times wave a dead chicken over it and then it would
work.


yea, their bios updating utilty fried the prom on mine. however they
dropped me a flashed chip no questions asked the next day which
was impressive. its worked fine since then.

I'd probably trend toward supermicro. I doubt a distinction could
be made in pcb/part/solder quality. Supermicro gets a extra
vote in support of their case offerings.

And, for what it's worth, I believe the Supermicro cases have full 
sensor reporting (for the backplanes, power stuff, etc), but I think 
Dustin would be a better source of info on that...

Nick

"Life's not fair, but the root password helps"



Re: Tyan v. Supermicro for Opteron?

2006-08-07 Thread Karsten McMinn

On 8/7/06, Dustin Lundquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I've used both a Tyan S2892 and Supermicro H8SSL and H8DA8, the Tyan
board had a number of weird BIOS issues - some times it would boot,
reset the BIOS 5 times wave a dead chicken over it and then it would
work.


yea, their bios updating utilty fried the prom on mine. however they
dropped me a flashed chip no questions asked the next day which
was impressive. its worked fine since then.

I'd probably trend toward supermicro. I doubt a distinction could
be made in pcb/part/solder quality. Supermicro gets a extra
vote in support of their case offerings.



Re: carp and physical interface

2006-08-07 Thread Henning Brauer
* Gustavo Rios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-08-07 00:32]:
> Dear friends,
> 
> i am running a openbsd firewall i am considering to start using carp,
> for increased reliability. I am very confused whether the physical
> interface to which a carpX corresponds should be used for IP traffic
> or only CARP protocol traffic?

I don't understand teh question.

the carp interface doesn't really see any traffic (please refrain from 
making me tell the details, but that is the executive summary, esp. 
from pf's viewpoint) at all.

you filter on the underlaying physical or logical (vlan etc) interface.

-- 
BS Web Services, http://www.bsws.de/
OpenBSD-based Webhosting, Mail Services, Managed Servers, ...
Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity.
(Dennis Ritchie)



Re: OpenBSD and high availability

2006-08-07 Thread Diana Eichert
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Jason Dixon wrote:
SNIP
> > Also, I'm not sure how ccd and nfs interact, but given that ccd isn't
> > meant for data security (use RAIDframe) and nfs has many interesting
> > issues, I'm not certain I would trust my data to that.
> >
> > I *believe* that, presuming the NFS server itself will not fail and
> > such, that RAIDframe over NFS *may* work. I'm no developer or even too
> > good at filesystems, though, and I would recommend a lot of testing.
>
> If it's good enough for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-misc&m=86187916316&w=2
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-misc&m=105358689405500&w=2

Sounds like an interesting, perhaps messy might be another description,
RAID implementation.  However it still might be fun to setup a RAID on
RAID configuration across multiple nfs mounts once.

diana



XOrg upgrade problem

2006-08-07 Thread Gabriel George POPA
   Hello all,

   I have a problem concerning an OpenBSD 3.8 machine. I decided today to 
apply all patches (001 to 009) and to recompile thus parts of the operating 
system. All patches have been compiled and installed cleanly. Even those 
for the kernel (although it's the first time I ever compiled a kernel 
on OpenBSD - I've done this of course numerous times on FreeBSD). BUT, 
now I have a problem with XOrg (it won't start). Probably it's because of 
patch number 007. When I do a startx I obtain the following at the 
end of the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file:
(...)
(**) Keyboard0: CustomKeycodes disabled
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard0" (type: KEYBOARD)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse0" (type: MOUSE)
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, removing from l
ist!
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, removing from li
st!
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from
list!
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from li
st!
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, removing from
list!
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from
 list!

Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'

Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
 at http://wiki.X.Org
 for help.
Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional informati
on.


 What can I do now? Where should I start solving the problem? 
I installed the 007 patch by doing:
cd /usr/src/XF4
patch -p0 < 007_xorg.patch  
then by issuing:
make build

  Yours in BSDness,
Gabriel George POPA



Re: DMESG question

2006-08-07 Thread Jiri Belka

Cituji Gabriel George POPA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


I have two small questions:
1) When the OS generates too much messages, old messages are lost
(oldest lines present in `dmesg` are lost).
What can I do to see ALL messages ever recorded for dmesg printing?
More precisely, take a look at my `dmesg`:
# dmesg
arp info overwritten for 193.231.39.129 by 00:90:bf:10:88:40 on vr0
arp info overwritten for 193.231.39.129 by 00:10:dc:4c:6f:6c on vr0
arp info overwritten for 193.231.39.36 by 00:15:f2:16:f8:b4 on vr0
arp info overwritten for 193.231.39.54 by 00:e0:29:9b:bc:6c on vr0
...
(and a lot of other similar messages, similar if not even identical)


man arp(4) -  
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=arp&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=OpenBSD+Current&arch=i386&format=html#end


jirib



Re: OpenBSD and high availability

2006-08-07 Thread Jason Dixon

On Aug 7, 2006, at 12:31 PM, Joachim Schipper wrote:


On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 06:07:53PM +0200, knitti wrote:

On 8/7/06, Jens Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
While the networking part can be handled by carp, I'm collecting  
ideas on

how
to keep the local file systems in synch - especially for ftp  
users and the
mailinglist archives. The synchronization will be done via a  
dedicated

cross
coonect cable directly between the boxes.


while I would do it with rsync (I know, depends on what you want  
to do),
I don't see any reason why ccd'ing two large nfs-exposed files  
shouldn't
work. But I think this would be more ugly and complicated than  
rsyncing

every x minutes...


Also, I'm not sure how ccd and nfs interact, but given that ccd isn't
meant for data security (use RAIDframe) and nfs has many interesting
issues, I'm not certain I would trust my data to that.

I *believe* that, presuming the NFS server itself will not fail and
such, that RAIDframe over NFS *may* work. I'm no developer or even too
good at filesystems, though, and I would recommend a lot of testing.


If it's good enough for [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-misc&m=86187916316&w=2
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-misc&m=105358689405500&w=2

--
Jason Dixon
DixonGroup Consulting
http://www.dixongroup.net



[Fwd: Re: OpenBSD and high availability]

2006-08-07 Thread Dag Richards

I am running two "clusters" using carp for network failover.

I use rsync every 15 minutes for the simple webapp which issues
x509 certs. A script runs on each node to check if it is
master if so it makes a crl, if not it pulls the directory hierarchy
 from the master.

The other cluster does the same for the web pages, but uses Mysql
replication to keep the databases in sync.



Sooo ho hoo  mch cheaper than our AIX HACMP clusters on EMC .
80-90% of the functionality for ~5% of the cost.



Seems to me that there was/is some daemon on the redhated step child of
an distro that you could use to look for changes in an file or dir
structure that you could use. I'll see if I can rember/find it, I though
it was from SGI.

This may or may not help

http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/links.html



Jens Mayer wrote:

Dear all,

we are thinking about a scenario on how to set up a server offering http, ftp 
and a few postfix/mailman driven mailinglists with a redundant failover. I'm 
_not_ talking about load balancing here - only the master is serving, while 
the slave sits still and waits, probably with all services shut down until 
taking over.


While the networking part can be handled by carp, I'm collecting ideas on how 
to keep the local file systems in synch - especially for ftp users and the 
mailinglist archives. The synchronization will be done via a dedicated cross 
coonect cable directly between the boxes.


I've seen nice concepts like DRBD (www.drbd.org), offering a "RAID-1" network 
block device, but did not find anything like that for OpenBSD. 

Of course there's always the possibility of scripting something own using 
rsync and friends, but I'm curious if some of you have a similar setup 
running and can share some ideas, thoughts and big red warnings.


Kind regards,
Jens




Re: OpenBSD and high availability

2006-08-07 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 06:07:53PM +0200, knitti wrote:
> On 8/7/06, Jens Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >While the networking part can be handled by carp, I'm collecting ideas on 
> >how
> >to keep the local file systems in synch - especially for ftp users and the
> >mailinglist archives. The synchronization will be done via a dedicated 
> >cross
> >coonect cable directly between the boxes.
> 
> while I would do it with rsync (I know, depends on what you want to do),
> I don't see any reason why ccd'ing two large nfs-exposed files shouldn't
> work. But I think this would be more ugly and complicated than rsyncing
> every x minutes...

Also, I'm not sure how ccd and nfs interact, but given that ccd isn't
meant for data security (use RAIDframe) and nfs has many interesting
issues, I'm not certain I would trust my data to that.

I *believe* that, presuming the NFS server itself will not fail and
such, that RAIDframe over NFS *may* work. I'm no developer or even too
good at filesystems, though, and I would recommend a lot of testing.

Joachim



Re: OpenBSD and high availability

2006-08-07 Thread Bret Lambert

knitti wrote:

On 8/7/06, Jens Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
While the networking part can be handled by carp, I'm collecting ideas 
on how
to keep the local file systems in synch - especially for ftp users and 
the
mailinglist archives. The synchronization will be done via a dedicated 
cross

coonect cable directly between the boxes.


while I would do it with rsync (I know, depends on what you want to do),
I don't see any reason why ccd'ing two large nfs-exposed files shouldn't
work. But I think this would be more ugly and complicated than rsyncing
every x minutes...

--knitti




der Mouse released something last year that sounds for all the world
like it could be modified for use as a good filesystem failover
mechanism (obviously, this doesn't help the OP /now/):

overview: http://kerneltrap.org/node/5058
download: ftp://ftp.rodents.montreal.qc.ca/mouse/livebackup

Although it's based on a client/server architecture, a bit of
configuring could probably get it to work in a master/slave environment.

- Bret



spamd greylist and stutter/delay

2006-08-07 Thread Will H. Backman
I have spamd get up in a simple greylist mode, but I left the default 
/etc/spamd.conf file intact.

I'm not running spamd-setup.
By default, spamd is stuttering for 10 seconds, but watching 
/var/log/daemon, I also noticed that connections from spews and other 
lists are lasting for over 400 seconds.
Does spamd do anything else with /etc/spamd.conf besides set up white 
and black lists?  Does this file effect the stutter or delay of connections?


By the way, spamd really does a great job.



Re: OpenBSD and high availability

2006-08-07 Thread knitti

On 8/7/06, Jens Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

While the networking part can be handled by carp, I'm collecting ideas on how
to keep the local file systems in synch - especially for ftp users and the
mailinglist archives. The synchronization will be done via a dedicated cross
coonect cable directly between the boxes.


while I would do it with rsync (I know, depends on what you want to do),
I don't see any reason why ccd'ing two large nfs-exposed files shouldn't
work. But I think this would be more ugly and complicated than rsyncing
every x minutes...

--knitti



Re: dns query

2006-08-07 Thread Dave Anderson
** Reply to message from riwanlky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 07 Aug
2006 14:58:52 +0700

>I don't know if it is the right place to write about this problem.
>I am running OpenBSD 3.9, however it seem to me that my OpenBSD
>box always send a DNS query for:
>- email sending (from internal and external) I had tried to add in my
>resolv.conf to use nameserver localhost. So that @mcojaya.com
>will not go to other DNS server for query. I use /etc/hosts to add
>127.0.0.1 mcojaya.com
>I have problem that when the internet is down, my local users were
>not able to send email because of DNS query check.
>- nagios. I use check_ping, and it seem that it will always query
>DNS for every ip address (host) that I setup to check_ping.
>
>I did not modify any inetd.conf

Sending email requires more than just an IP address.  When sending a
message to @, the mailer first checks where it
should be sent by looking for an 'MX' (Mail eXchanger) record for
 -- and 'MX' records can only be suppied via DNS.  The
typical setup is something like:

domain.example  IN MX   10,mail-server.domain.example
mail-server.domain.example  IN A192.168.13.57

So if you want this to work when your internet connection is down you
need to either set up your own DNS server (it's not all that hard, but
is certainly not trivial) or find a mailer (if one exists) that does
some special hackery to avoid DNS queries for locally-addressed
messages.

Dave

-- 
Dave Anderson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Re: Tyan v. Supermicro for Opteron?

2006-08-07 Thread Dustin Lundquist
I've used both a Tyan S2892 and Supermicro H8SSL and H8DA8, the Tyan
board had a number of weird BIOS issues - some times it would boot,
reset the BIOS 5 times wave a dead chicken over it and then it would
work. The only similar issues I've run into with the Supermicro boards
was with the onboard Adaptec SCSI and an LSI MegaRAID on the H8DA8 and
another MegaRAID in a Supermicro P4SCT, resetting the BIOS and disabling
the onboard Adaptec SCSI via jumper resolved or moving the MegaRAID
resolved these issues. After working with the S2892 and several older
Tyan dual P3 and dual Athlon boards, my option of them is: quirky.


Dustin Lundquist


Darrin Chandler wrote:
> Ok, I've got it narrowed down a bit. Anyone have experiences good or bad
> to report with Tyan versus Supermicro mobos? I find archives for people
> using one or the other, so they both seem workable. Anyone used both and
> prefer one for some reason? I'm looking at 2xCPU, and maybe dual-core in
> addition.
> 
> Any help *greatly* appreciated!



Wireshark 0.99 on OpenBSD 3.9

2006-08-07 Thread jjhartley
FYI.  For those contemplating installing Wireshark, the 0.99.2 snapshot 
currently available on http://www.wireshark.org/download.html does not build on 
3.9.  There has been recent discussion on wireshark-dev@ about this, and the 
latest SVN source appears to correct the problem(s):

http://www.mail-archive.com/wireshark-dev@wireshark.org/msg00328.html

The list of packages & build sequence described at the following page are still 
correct as I have successfully built what becomes Wireshark 0.99.3 from the 
latest SVN source this weekend.

http://www.cromwell-intl.com/unix/openbsd-dell.html

HTH.

Jim



OpenBSD and high availability

2006-08-07 Thread Jens Mayer
Dear all,

we are thinking about a scenario on how to set up a server offering http, ftp 
and a few postfix/mailman driven mailinglists with a redundant failover. I'm 
_not_ talking about load balancing here - only the master is serving, while 
the slave sits still and waits, probably with all services shut down until 
taking over.

While the networking part can be handled by carp, I'm collecting ideas on how 
to keep the local file systems in synch - especially for ftp users and the 
mailinglist archives. The synchronization will be done via a dedicated cross 
coonect cable directly between the boxes.

I've seen nice concepts like DRBD (www.drbd.org), offering a "RAID-1" network 
block device, but did not find anything like that for OpenBSD. 

Of course there's always the possibility of scripting something own using 
rsync and friends, but I'm curious if some of you have a similar setup 
running and can share some ideas, thoughts and big red warnings.

Kind regards,
Jens



Re: DMESG question

2006-08-07 Thread Alexander Hall

Gabriel George POPA wrote:

I have two small questions:
1) When the OS generates too much messages, old messages are lost 
(oldest lines present in `dmesg` are lost).


`dmesg' displays the system message buffer, which has a limited space. 
Therefore, when it is full, it starts overwriting itself. Thus, lost 
messages are indeed lost.



What can I do to see ALL messages ever recorded for dmesg printing?


You could write some script that `dmesg > /some/where/$time` 
periodically (cron job).



More precisely, take a look at my `dmesg`:
# dmesg
arp info overwritten for 193.231.39.129 by 00:90:bf:10:88:40 on vr0
arp info overwritten for 193.231.39.129 by 00:10:dc:4c:6f:6c on vr0
arp info overwritten for 193.231.39.36 by 00:15:f2:16:f8:b4 on vr0
arp info overwritten for 193.231.39.54 by 00:e0:29:9b:bc:6c on vr0
...
(and a lot of other similar messages, similar if not even identical)

Most questions on this mail list require me to provide a valid output of 
dmesg. But if old messages are erased, how am I

supposed to do this?


$ cat /var/run/dmesg.boot

I am not allowed to reboot the machine! The machine 
is supposed to be running 24/7, NO reboot allowed.


Isn't this machine ever upgraded? Or, if it is so important - what about 
redundancy? Well well.


2) What do these lines mean (the lines I copied above from the output of 
`dmesg`)?


I'd say some machines are fighting over the same ip address. I could be 
wrong, though. Don know, but I get a feeling that some failover 
solution(s) could cause this.


/Alexander



Re: DMESG question

2006-08-07 Thread Daniel A. Ramaley
On Monday 07 August 2006 08:15, Gabriel George POPA wrote:
>Most questions on this mail list require me to provide a valid output
> of dmesg. But if old messages are erased, how am I
>supposed to do this?

Take a look at /var/run/dmesg.boot.


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Network Programmer/Analyst 2407 Carpenter Ave
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Re: DMESG question

2006-08-07 Thread Gabriel George POPA
Thank you, that's what I was looking for :)




Stuart Henderson wrote:

>On 2006/08/07 16:15, Gabriel George POPA wrote:
>  
>
>>1) When the OS generates too much messages, old messages are lost 
>>(oldest lines present in `dmesg` are lost).
>>What can I do to see ALL messages ever recorded for dmesg printing? More 
>>precisely, take a look at my `dmesg`:
>>
>>
>
>/var/log/messages if they're not rotated too far away
>(change newsyslog.conf if you want to keep them for longer).
>
>  
>
>># dmesg
>>arp info overwritten for 193.231.39.129 by 00:90:bf:10:88:40 on vr0
>>arp info overwritten for 193.231.39.129 by 00:10:dc:4c:6f:6c on vr0
>>arp info overwritten for 193.231.39.36 by 00:15:f2:16:f8:b4 on vr0
>>arp info overwritten for 193.231.39.54 by 00:e0:29:9b:bc:6c on vr0
>>
>>
>
>this is IP addresses moving between machines.



Re: DMESG question

2006-08-07 Thread Gabriel George POPA

All right, even better. Thank you all.

  Yours in BSDness,
  George


Landry wrote:


On 8/7/06, Gabriel George POPA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I have two small questions:
1) When the OS generates too much messages, old messages are lost
(oldest lines present in `dmesg` are lost).
What can I do to see ALL messages ever recorded for dmesg printing?




There is always a copy of the original dmesg in /var/run/dmesg.boot

Landry




Re: DMESG question

2006-08-07 Thread Landry

On 8/7/06, Gabriel George POPA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have two small questions:
1) When the OS generates too much messages, old messages are lost
(oldest lines present in `dmesg` are lost).
What can I do to see ALL messages ever recorded for dmesg printing?


There is always a copy of the original dmesg in /var/run/dmesg.boot

Landry



Re: DMESG question

2006-08-07 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/08/07 16:15, Gabriel George POPA wrote:
> 1) When the OS generates too much messages, old messages are lost 
> (oldest lines present in `dmesg` are lost).
> What can I do to see ALL messages ever recorded for dmesg printing? More 
> precisely, take a look at my `dmesg`:

/var/log/messages if they're not rotated too far away
(change newsyslog.conf if you want to keep them for longer).

> # dmesg
> arp info overwritten for 193.231.39.129 by 00:90:bf:10:88:40 on vr0
> arp info overwritten for 193.231.39.129 by 00:10:dc:4c:6f:6c on vr0
> arp info overwritten for 193.231.39.36 by 00:15:f2:16:f8:b4 on vr0
> arp info overwritten for 193.231.39.54 by 00:e0:29:9b:bc:6c on vr0

this is IP addresses moving between machines.



Re: DMESG question

2006-08-07 Thread Steffen Wendzel
Hi Gabriel,

old versions of /var/log/messages are stored in a gzip compressed
form in /var/log too and are called messages..gz

steffen

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Re: tunnels

2006-08-07 Thread Dag Richards

Yes you can do that but, why gre tunnels instead of ipsec?

Gustavo Rios wrote:

I would like to configure a virtual network on multiple physical
location. So, i am seeking if it could be possible using gre tunnels.

Local private address address will be 10/8 and the gre network of
tunnels should be 192.168.0.0/23.

It is possible?

Thanks in advance.




Re: DMESG question

2006-08-07 Thread Loz
Gabriel,

You can always pipe it to more, like this

# dmesg | more

and you can make the output go to a file, with

# dmesg > filename

Regards,

Loz

On 8/7/06, Gabriel George POPA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have two small questions:
> 1) When the OS generates too much messages, old messages are lost
> (oldest lines present in `dmesg` are lost).
> What can I do to see ALL messages ever recorded for dmesg printing? More
> precisely, take a look at my `dmesg`:
> # dmesg
> arp info overwritten for 193.231.39.129 by 00:90:bf:10:88:40 on vr0
> arp info overwritten for 193.231.39.129 by 00:10:dc:4c:6f:6c on vr0
> arp info overwritten for 193.231.39.36 by 00:15:f2:16:f8:b4 on vr0
> arp info overwritten for 193.231.39.54 by 00:e0:29:9b:bc:6c on vr0
> ...
> (and a lot of other similar messages, similar if not even identical)
>
> Most questions on this mail list require me to provide a valid output of
> dmesg. But if old messages are erased, how am I
> supposed to do this? I am not allowed to reboot the machine! The machine
> is supposed to be running 24/7, NO reboot allowed.
>
> 2) What do these lines mean (the lines I copied above from the output of
> `dmesg`)?
>
> NOTE: I'm using OpenBSD 3.8 on i386 (P4).
>
>
> Yours in BSDness,
>
> Gabriel George POPA



DMESG question

2006-08-07 Thread Gabriel George POPA

I have two small questions:
1) When the OS generates too much messages, old messages are lost 
(oldest lines present in `dmesg` are lost).
What can I do to see ALL messages ever recorded for dmesg printing? More 
precisely, take a look at my `dmesg`:

# dmesg
arp info overwritten for 193.231.39.129 by 00:90:bf:10:88:40 on vr0
arp info overwritten for 193.231.39.129 by 00:10:dc:4c:6f:6c on vr0
arp info overwritten for 193.231.39.36 by 00:15:f2:16:f8:b4 on vr0
arp info overwritten for 193.231.39.54 by 00:e0:29:9b:bc:6c on vr0
...
(and a lot of other similar messages, similar if not even identical)

Most questions on this mail list require me to provide a valid output of 
dmesg. But if old messages are erased, how am I
supposed to do this? I am not allowed to reboot the machine! The machine 
is supposed to be running 24/7, NO reboot allowed.


2) What do these lines mean (the lines I copied above from the output of 
`dmesg`)?


NOTE: I'm using OpenBSD 3.8 on i386 (P4).

   
Yours in BSDness,
 
Gabriel George POPA




Re: BGP Lookingglass

2006-08-07 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/08/07 11:46, Philip Olsson wrote:
> Im woundering if there exists a looking glass suitable for public access
> over http that uses the new read only socket in openbgpd ?

http://null-ptr.net/sw/lg/ works -
besides the mentioned files you will need:

bgpd_flags="-r /var/www/var/run/bgpd.sock"
everything listed in `ldd /usr/sbin/bgpctl' output (ld.so, lib's)

you probably have /var set as nosuid, this means you can't
use ping/traceroute in the jail unless you're willing to relax
that (and you can't use sudo to run them since that too is
setuid).

Might be worth also pointing out some SSH modification here,
http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2006-04/1811.html
which (I haven't tested, but..) should let you separate webserver
from routers and just forward the RO control socket on, which
makes a certain amount of sense to me, especially on a public
access setup.



BGP Lookingglass

2006-08-07 Thread Philip Olsson
hello
Im woundering if there exists a looking glass suitable for public access
over http that uses the new read only socket in openbgpd ?

// Philip



Re: reboot on IBM xSeries 336

2006-08-07 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/08/07 16:05, riwanlky wrote:
> Thanks, I tried to installed it using FTP, install completed. However when I
> reboot, it still try to use pcibios0. How do I disable to pcibios0 forever.

See config(8) "Kernel modification".



Re: Tyan v. Supermicro for Opteron?

2006-08-07 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/08/06 15:47, Darrin Chandler wrote:
> Ok, I've got it narrowed down a bit. Anyone have experiences good or bad
> to report with Tyan versus Supermicro mobos? I find archives for people
> using one or the other, so they both seem workable. Anyone used both and
> prefer one for some reason? I'm looking at 2xCPU, and maybe dual-core in
> addition.

Supermicro H8SSL-based (1x939, used in various systems in 1010A range)
works quite nicely for the main part, though I'm having some trouble
with multiport PCI-X nics (I speculate maybe any cards using an extra
ppb(4), but I don't have any non-nic cards with bridges to check).

dmesg: http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2006-07/0271.html

H8DA8 board (2x940, used in 2020A-8R) is working quite nicely with
i386 UP, amd64 UP, amd64 MP. Had some lockups (just locked, no panic)
with i386 MP under load. dmesg below. PCI slots on 2020A-8R are low-
profile only so if you want a megaraid to connect to internal drives
make sure it's a 320-1LP.

Heatsinks for rackmount Supermicros are sold separately and the
packaging for those is not the greatest. I've generally been pretty
happy with the kit though.

Tyan - haven't used myself, but they are OEM for some Sun galaxy
server motherboards which have a few users...

h8da8:
OpenBSD 3.9-current (GENERIC.MP) #910: Thu Jul 13 20:33:16 MDT 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 2147086336 (2096764K)
avail mem = 1835438080 (1792420K)
using 22937 buffers containing 214917120 bytes (209880K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xfc160 (67 entries)
bios0: Supermicro H8DA8/H8DAR
ipmi at mainbus0 not configured
mainbus0: Intel MP Specification (Version 1.4) (MSI  RHAPSODY)
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 265, 1795.11 MHz
cpu0:
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB
64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully
associative
cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully
associative
cpu0: apic clock running at 199MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 265, 1794.89 MHz
cpu1:
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
cpu1: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB
64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu1: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully
associative
cpu1: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully
associative
mpbios: bus 0 is type PCI   
mpbios: bus 1 is type PCI   
mpbios: bus 2 is type PCI   
mpbios: bus 3 is type PCI   
mpbios: bus 4 is type ISA   
ioapic0 at mainbus0 apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 11, 24 pins
ioapic1 at mainbus0 apid 3 pa 0xfebfe000, version 11, 4 pins
ioapic2 at mainbus0 apid 4 pa 0xfebff000, version 11, 4 pins
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1
ppb0 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 "AMD 8111 PCI-PCI" rev 0x07
pci1 at ppb0 bus 3
ohci0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "AMD 8111 USB" rev 0x0b: apic 2 int 19
(irq 10), version 1.0, legacy support
usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: AMD OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered
ohci1 at pci1 dev 0 function 1 "AMD 8111 USB" rev 0x0b: apic 2 int 19
(irq 10), version 1.0, legacy support
usb1 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: AMD OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered
vga1 at pci1 dev 4 function 0 "ATI Rage XL" rev 0x27
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 "AMD AMD8111 LPC" rev 0x05
pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 "AMD 8111 IDE" rev 0x03: DMA, channel 0
configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
pciide0: channel 0 disabled (no drives)
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0:  SCSI0 5/cdrom
removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
amdiic0 at pci0 dev 7 function 2 "AMD 8111 SMBus" rev 0x02: SCI
iic0 at amdiic0
admcts0 at iic0 addr 0x2c
lm1 at iic0 addr 0x2d: W83627HF
amdpm0 at pci0 dev 7 function 3 "AMD 8111 Power" rev 0x05: rng active
iic1 at amdpm0
ppb1 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 "AMD 8131 PCIX" rev 0x13
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
ahd0 at pci2 dev 3 function 0 "Adaptec AIC-7902B U320" rev 0x10: apic 3
int 0 (irq 9)
ahd0: aic7902, U320 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, PCI-X 67-100Mhz, 512 SCBs
scsibus1 at ahd0: 16 targets
ahd1 at pci2 dev 3 function 1 "Adaptec AIC-7902B U320" rev 0x10: apic 3
int 1 (irq 11)
ahd1: aic7902, U320 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, PCI-X 67-100Mhz, 512 SCBs
scsibus2 at ahd1: 16 targets
b

Re: reboot on IBM xSeries 336

2006-08-07 Thread riwanlky

Thanks, I tried to installed it using FTP, install completed. However when I
reboot, it still try to use pcibios0. How do I disable to pcibios0 forever.

I am still using i386.

Thanks, and best regards,
riwan

At 08:13 PM 8/1/2006 +0200, Srebrenko Sehic wrote:

This is know. Workaround is to install via FTP (with pcibios disabled)
or use amd64 version. That, AFAIK, works fine.

More details at
http://www.armorlogic.com/openbsd_information_server_compatibility_list.html?action=detail&id=x336

On 8/1/06, riwanlky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hai All,

I am trying to install OpenBSD 3.9 GENERIC into IBM xSeries 336,
however it reboot after
pcibios0: exclusive interrupt 9 10 11 15

The I tried to disable the pcibios0
boot> boot -c
UKC> disable pcibios0

creating partition ok.
when it look for cd to install, it did not recognize cd0. Timeout.
Perhaps because the cdrom is in pcibios0?

I do not have serial cable with me, so I could not display the message.

Thanks,
Riwan




Re: dns query

2006-08-07 Thread Kevin Foo
On Monday 07 August 2006 15:58, riwanlky wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I don't know if it is the right place to write about this problem.
> I am running OpenBSD 3.9, however it seem to me that my OpenBSD
> box always send a DNS query for:
> - email sending (from internal and external) I had tried to add in my
> resolv.conf to use nameserver localhost. So that @mcojaya.com
> will not go to other DNS server for query. I use /etc/hosts to add
> 127.0.0.1 mcojaya.com
> I have problem that when the internet is down, my local users were
> not able to send email because of DNS query check.
> - nagios. I use check_ping, and it seem that it will always query
> DNS for every ip address (host) that I setup to check_ping.
> 
> I did not modify any inetd.conf
> 
> Thanks, best regards,
> riwan

Why not setting up your own DNS server to serve mcojaya.com zone and forward 
dns queries other than mcojaya.com to your ISP dns servers?
It can be easily achieved with bind and djbdns' tinydns and dnscache.

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Re: OpenBSD -current freeze hourly(half an hour)

2006-08-07 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 03:02:22PM +0800, Bibby Michael wrote:
> Kernel panic:
> 
> I use OpenBSD 4.0-beta(snapshots).
> 
> ---
> anic: pool_get(mclpl): free list modified; magic=a4153cb5; page 0xd8038000;
> item addr 0xd8038800
> Stopped at  Debugger+0x4:   leave
> 
> RUN AT LEAST 'trace' AND 'ps' AND INCLUDE OUTPUT WHEN REPORTING THIS PANIC!
> DO NOT EVEN BOTHER REPORTING THIS WITHOUT INCLUDING THAT INFORMATION!
> 
> ddb{0}> trace
> Debuuger (c,d1b0a25e,6c,d8038800,d074d5e0 at Debugger+0x4
> panic (d0653e40, d0655d09, a4153c65, d803800, d8038800) at panic+0x63
> pool_get(d074d5e0,0,e910fce0,d802ab36, d1963406) at pool_get+0x2f9
> ieee80211_wep_crypt(d1b0a030, d8033f00, 0,4) at ieee80211_wep_crypt+0x56)
> ieee80211_input(d1b0a030, d8033f00, d1ae9a00, 23, 0, d8028818) at
> ieee80211_input+0x3e4
> wpi_rx_intr(d1b0a000,d8028800, d1b0afa4, 16, 0) at wpi_rx_intr+0x3c9
> wpi_notif_intr(d1b0a000, d0459f0d, e910ff18, d0459db6) at
> wpi_notif_intr+0xee
> wpi_intr(d1b0a000) at wpi_intr+0xca
> Xintr_ioapic4() at Xintr_ioapic4+0x74
> --interrupt-
> apm_cpu_idle(0,0,0,0,0) at apm_cpu_idle+0x4a
> 
> ddb{0}> ps
> COMMAND only:
> wget, ksh, dhclient, update, inted, cron, getty, sendmail, syslogd, crypto,
> aiodoned, reaper, usbtask, usb[0-4], cardslot0, cleaner, wskbd_hotkey,
> pfpurge, pagedaemon, kmthread, init, swapper
> 
> I only use wget in console, without any X-window application running.
> sendmail/cron/syslogd are system services which bringed up by rc.conf.
> 
>
Try to disable wpi(4) and see if it still crashes.

Do you have the right firmware loaded? I don't own such a card but i
remember people having problems with it because they used firmware for
-stable and run a -current OS.

Just guessing...

Tobias



dns query

2006-08-07 Thread riwanlky

Hi all,

I don't know if it is the right place to write about this problem.
I am running OpenBSD 3.9, however it seem to me that my OpenBSD
box always send a DNS query for:
- email sending (from internal and external) I had tried to add in my
resolv.conf to use nameserver localhost. So that @mcojaya.com
will not go to other DNS server for query. I use /etc/hosts to add
127.0.0.1 mcojaya.com
I have problem that when the internet is down, my local users were
not able to send email because of DNS query check.
- nagios. I use check_ping, and it seem that it will always query
DNS for every ip address (host) that I setup to check_ping.

I did not modify any inetd.conf

Thanks, best regards,
riwan



Re: OpenBSD -current freeze hourly(half an hour)

2006-08-07 Thread Alexander Hall

Bibby Michael wrote:


It seems that the audio device drived correctly by 'azalia', but when i play
mp3 file in xmms/bmp, i can't heard any sound. Any suggestion?


Maybe the standard "mixerctl issues"?

mixerctl -a |
egrep '^(input|outputs)\.' |
sed 's/=.*//' |
while read a; do
case $a in
*.mute) mixerctl ${a%.mute}=255 $a=off;;
esac
done

/Alexander



Re: OpenBSD -current freeze hourly(half an hour)

2006-08-07 Thread Bibby Michael
Kernel panic:

I use OpenBSD 4.0-beta(snapshots).

---
anic: pool_get(mclpl): free list modified; magic=a4153cb5; page 0xd8038000;
item addr 0xd8038800
Stopped at  Debugger+0x4:   leave

RUN AT LEAST 'trace' AND 'ps' AND INCLUDE OUTPUT WHEN REPORTING THIS PANIC!
DO NOT EVEN BOTHER REPORTING THIS WITHOUT INCLUDING THAT INFORMATION!

ddb{0}> trace
Debuuger (c,d1b0a25e,6c,d8038800,d074d5e0 at Debugger+0x4
panic (d0653e40, d0655d09, a4153c65, d803800, d8038800) at panic+0x63
pool_get(d074d5e0,0,e910fce0,d802ab36, d1963406) at pool_get+0x2f9
ieee80211_wep_crypt(d1b0a030, d8033f00, 0,4) at ieee80211_wep_crypt+0x56)
ieee80211_input(d1b0a030, d8033f00, d1ae9a00, 23, 0, d8028818) at
ieee80211_input+0x3e4
wpi_rx_intr(d1b0a000,d8028800, d1b0afa4, 16, 0) at wpi_rx_intr+0x3c9
wpi_notif_intr(d1b0a000, d0459f0d, e910ff18, d0459db6) at
wpi_notif_intr+0xee
wpi_intr(d1b0a000) at wpi_intr+0xca
Xintr_ioapic4() at Xintr_ioapic4+0x74
--interrupt-
apm_cpu_idle(0,0,0,0,0) at apm_cpu_idle+0x4a

ddb{0}> ps
COMMAND only:
wget, ksh, dhclient, update, inted, cron, getty, sendmail, syslogd, crypto,
aiodoned, reaper, usbtask, usb[0-4], cardslot0, cleaner, wskbd_hotkey,
pfpurge, pagedaemon, kmthread, init, swapper

I only use wget in console, without any X-window application running.
sendmail/cron/syslogd are system services which bringed up by rc.conf.