Re: mixmaster and anonymous mailing
On 28/10/06, Girish Venkatachalam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, Anonymous e-mailing and mixmaster framework piqued my interest and I have been doing some reading/browsing. However even wikipedia does not give me enough detail though I get the context and architecture. But my mind has more doubts than comfort. Can someone elucidate the design and educate me on how the different pieces work together to send and receive mail anonymously? Listen to these talks: How To Break Anonymity Networks Nick Mathewson http://www.the-fifth-hope.org/mp3/anonymity-mathewson.mp3 Ten Years of Practical Anonymity Len Sassaman http://www.the-fifth-hope.org/mp3/anonymity-sassaman.mp3 Abstracts here: http://www.the-fifth-hope.org/hoop/5hope_speakers.khtml
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
Doesn't 'audacity' concatenate mp3 files? On Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 09:46:48PM +0300, the unit calling itself Peter Philipp wrote: On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 11:41:43PM +0300, Peter Philipp wrote: license for your own programs. Now all I gotta do is bang out my program based on this info. :-) Just a followup on this, I did bang out this program and have been spending the greater part of the day re-concatenating my old mp3 clips. Remember my original need for this, I disconnect/reconnect my pppoe every minute. This gives me a new IP every minute. Since there is an overlap on the MP3 streaming server I'm able to concatenate the pieces together based on a series of checksums that are part of the MP3 format. If you would like to see my program you can download it from https://ssl-id.de/centroid.eu/peter/merge-mp3-clips.c [checksum: MD5 (src/misc/merge-mp3-clips.c) = 9281305ab48233aa86d2df3c184b0b93 ] To make it use for your stuff it probably needs a bit of editing/hardcoding. I hardcoded the directories and the files have the format ckln.`date +%s`. The listening of this is a pleasure again without skips, repeats and screeches. This program can also be used for groups on the Internet. Say you want to protect your identity from MP3 streaming vendors and have a few friends on the Internet you can all download a minute of listening at different offsets in time (crontabbed perhaps?) and then change your IP. During the download of the stream you don't do any network activity, that way noone can correlate your IP to any other service on the Internet (prior to the download you also change IP). At the end of each download the MP3 clip is uploaded to a central server or on a P2P network and re-assembled with similar programs such as this for your uninterupted listening pleasure. This pretty well protects your privacy globally and noone can be sure who is listening into a certain program for a long time, noone can proove that you are interested in a certain topic/discussion (say if someone talks about coups, rebellions, dissent), all they'll be able to tell is that someone listened for a minute and then had enough (hardly incriminating them in orwellian societies/states). Have fun! -peter -- Here my ticker tape .signature My name is Peter Philipp lynx -dump http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pufferfisholdid=20768394; | sed -n 131,137p http://centroid.eu So long and thanks for all the fish!!!
Re: Lenovo notebooks
On 10/27/06, Breen Ouellette wrote: I think your statement may be a little too broad. Not everyone who avoids the CDs deserves shame. It's the people who only take from the project, and never give back in kind for the high value that they have received, who should feel ashamed. That would still be most OpenBSD users, wouldn't it? As a non-developer, I feel that *whatever* I do (short of becoming a developer), I am not giving back in kind for the high value that I have received. Yet this makes me feel grateful (and somewhat humbled), not ashamed. And what is the shame in taking something for free and not reciprocating when someone gives it to you for free and makes clear that there are no strings attached and that they want it that way? -Eliah
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 10:11:30AM -0500, J Moore wrote: Doesn't 'audacity' concatenate mp3 files? Thanks for the suggestion. Lots of feedback now. Too bad it didn't come around 3 months ago. I've made my own tools now and it's a lot of fun. Just made an MP3 proxy/multiplexer that takes a stream and multiplexes it for multiple connections on the same stream. A multicast version is coming up for LAN's and multicast capable WANS. Watch the next few entries in my blog for the source of this and explaining how I do this. Whenever something comes up I go the hard way, it seems to be that way in my entire lifespan. However I keep my sovereignty on whatever that way. -p -- Here my ticker tape .signature My name is Peter Philipp lynx -dump http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pufferfisholdid=20768394; | sed -n 131,137p http://centroid.eu So long and thanks for all the fish!!!
Re: Sun x2100 M2 DMESG weirdenn and remote access. OpenBSD 4.0
On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 11:11:43PM -0700, Pawel S. Veselov wrote: Daniel Ouellet wrote: stan wrote: That's actually not a given IFIRK Sun says the RAID on the 2100's is Windows only. Why Sun picks that kinda hardware for it's servers, is another kinda question But the controller manufacturers play evil here... Might be beacuse these machines are about $750US each list. -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie)
Re: Sun x2100 M2 DMESG weirdenn and remote access. OpenBSD 4.0
stan wrote: On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 11:11:43PM -0700, Pawel S. Veselov wrote: Daniel Ouellet wrote: stan wrote: That's actually not a given IFIRK Sun says the RAID on the 2100's is Windows only. Why Sun picks that kinda hardware for it's servers, is another kinda question But the controller manufacturers play evil here... Might be beacuse these machines are about $750US each list. What about v65x then ? :)
Contributing and Shame [Was: Lenovo notebooks?]
Eliah Kagan wrote: That would still be most OpenBSD users, wouldn't it? I honestly do not know as I do not have access to the size of the user base nor the financial needs of the project. If 5000 users gave $100 per year to the project that would be half a million dollars. Are there 5000 users? Is half a million per year more or less than the project earns now? Half a million seems like a lot, but it only represents 10 developers on a yearly salary of $50,000, and I personally feel that there are developers that are worth at least that much for a full time contribution. Do the paid developers currently take more or less salary to work full time on OpenBSD? How much of the yearly budget needs to go toward hardware purchases? Operating expenses? Does Revenue Canada get its dirty little fingers into this? There are too many unknown variables to answer this. I feel that if the user base can meet the financial needs of the project then the user base is doing its part. Unfortunately, I know of several people who use OpenBSD that will never send in a flat penny. These are the same people that have 2TB of disk space on their main desktop, running a pirated copy of Windows XP, with 2000 CDs and DVDs of pirated music and movies sitting on their bookshelf. They feel that everything that isn't nailed down should be free. As a non-developer, I feel that *whatever* I do (short of becoming a developer), I am not giving back in kind for the high value that I have received. Yet this makes me feel grateful (and somewhat humbled), not ashamed. While I can definitely relate to your feelings of gratefulness, OpenBSD isn't merely given away as a kindness to the user base. It needs to be open and free to meet the goals of the project. If it wasn't as open as it is then it wouldn't be as secure as it is. And what is the shame in taking something for free and not reciprocating when someone gives it to you for free and makes clear that there are no strings attached and that they want it that way? The shame enters the picture when you place expectations for additional output from the people giving freely. I see people griping all the time for this or that feature, or support for this or that hardware. I see this from people who contribute nothing and never will. People complain that certain hardware is not supported very well, but have they ever written even one email to the vendor demanding open documentation? These people should be ashamed, but of course they never will. I agree with everything you say in principle, I'm just not convinced it is the best position to take on the matter. I wish people and companies who use OpenBSD would recognize the value they receive and contribute back accordingly to ensure that the project can continue on to bigger and brighter things. But... wish in one hand, shit in the other, and see which one fills up first. Breeno
Re: Problems with we* ISA NICs
Fssforo wrote: Hi guys. I am new to OpenBSD. I am trying to transform my Linux gateway + firewall into OpenBSD gateway + firewall. Currently i've 2 PCI NICs - both Realtek 8139 (correctly recognized by OBSD) and 2 ISA NICs - both SMC EtherEZ 8416 (now recognized but not working). 8416 cards are about the hardest NICs to work with that are supported on OpenBSD. In the mode they need to run on OpenBSD in, they are also among the hardest to work with on ANY OS. However, just a few weeks ago, I powered up a system with an 8216 card in it (very slightly easier than the 8416 card...mostly because they have a jumper which slams the card to a usable config). They work fine. After some work disabling PnP on both of the ISA NICs, adjusting IRQ and IO address, setting BIOS memory to handle ISA instead of PCI/PnP, and saving the config changed at UKC, i got them recognized: $ dmesg |grep -i smc we0 at isa0 port 0x240/32 iomem 0xd/8192 irq 15: SMC8416T (16-bit) we1 at isa0 port 0x260/32 iomem 0xcc000/8192 irq 5: SMC8416T (16-bit) but i can't make them work ! That usually means the rest of your hardware is misconfigured. Machines of your vintage usually have a way to reserve IRQs and (often) memory space for ISA cards. PCI and PnP are supposed to be able to allocate this automatically, but ISA cards just plop themselves where they were set to go, and hope nothing else was there. IRQ 15 on a machine of this vintage is usually occupied by the second IDE channel. IRQ 5 is often used by other ISA cards, notably sound cards. That part of your dmesg was snipped off. I can set IPs at the ISA NICs, but when i try to communicate with other hosts, i get the following error in my logs - or ehile other hosts are sending packets. we1: length does not match next packet pointer we1: len nlen 1200 start 06 first 07 curr 08 next 00 stop 20 we1: NIC memory corrupt - invalid packet length 4608 when i try to ping an IP on the other side of the wire, the packets aren't generated correctly (captured with tcpdump) - even the own ISA NIC MAC address isn't correct: 23:35:09.088037 54:55:55:15:59:75 55:55:01:55:45:45, ethertype Unknown (0xd545), length 98: 0x: 1555 5554 0555 5455 5441 4555 .UUT.UUUTUUUTAEU 0x0010: 4455 5515 1535 545d 555c 5554 1055 DUU..5T]U\UTUU.U 0x0020: 5057 5545 5455 1555 5145 5575 1555 4115 PWUETU.UQEUu.UA. 0x0030: 4575 515d 5155 5115 5455 5577 1555 7055 EuQ]QUQ.TUUw.UpU 0x0040: 0055 5514 1155 0455 5575 5755 1141 .UU.UU.U.UUuWU.A 0x0050: 0555 and the MAC address of the other interface i am pinging isn't learned well. I've to set them statically with arp - but network still doesn't works. forcing broken things to give you the numbers you want really isn't expected to work... This sounds to me like something is clobbering your NIC's shared RAM space, which usually means a misconfigure in the machine itself (or the card isn't configured as you think). After A LOT OF browsing, i saw this NetBSD patch: http://groups.google.com.br/group/mailing.netbsd.bugs/browse_thread/thread/9cf8e8e6e12cf637/f9337a5e87acb375?lnk=stq=we.c+freebsd+%22length+does+not+match%22rnum=1hl=pt-BR#f9337a5e87acb375 That might be important..IF we were to support Microchannel some day. I don't think that's your problem. There is a know way / workaround to put these cards working on OpenBSD ? Machine: Pentium 200Mhz MMX @ 32Mb RAM OS: OpenBSD 3.9 dmesg: OpenBSD 3.9 (GENERIC) #617: Thu Mar 2 02:26:48 MST 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel Pentium/MMX (GenuineIntel 586-class) 200 MHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,MMX cpu0: F00F bug workaround installed real mem = 33136640 (32360K) avail mem = 22138880 (21620K) using 430 buffers containing 1761280 bytes (1720K) of memory mainbus0 (root) bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 07/15/95, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfdb10 apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 (BIOS mgmt disabled) apm0: APM power management enable: power management disabled (1) apm0: APM engage (device 1): power management disabled (1) apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown apm0: flags b0102 dobusy 0 doidle 1 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1 pcibios0: PCI BIOS has 4 Interrupt Routing table entries pcibios0: no compatible PCI ICU found pcibios0: Warning, unable to fix up PCI interrupt routing pcibios0: PCI bus #0 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 5 function 0 Hint Host rev 0x00 pcib0 at pci0 dev 5 function 1 Hint ISA rev 0x00 pciide0 at pci0 dev 5 function 2 Hint EIDE rev 0x00: no DMA, channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: Maxtor 7540 AV wd0: 8-sector PIO, LBA, 515MB, 1055020 sectors atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1 scsibus0 at
Re: Contributing and Shame [Was: Lenovo notebooks?]
On 10/28/06, Breen Ouellette wrote: The shame enters the picture when you place expectations for additional output from the people giving freely. I see people griping all the time for this or that feature, or support for this or that hardware. I see this from people who contribute nothing and never will. I see what you're saying. On the other hand, I'm not sure the shame is less justified when people who do contribute place expectations for additional output from the people giving freely. In fact, whether or not such a person donates seems totally irrelevant to their placement of unjustified expectations. People complain that certain hardware is not supported very well, but have they ever written even one email to the vendor demanding open documentation? These people should be ashamed, but of course they never will. These people should be ashamed (if indeed it is ever true to say that someone *should* experience some emotion...which it is not) because they fail to exercise their own autonomy, instead begging others who they see as being in positions of authority to magically fix the situation. This has nothing to do with loyalty or duty to the OpenBSD project, monetary or otherwise. -Eliah
Is there a deluser equivalent in OpenBSD?
Hello everyone, So, I'm trying to set up a samba server, and looking into the smb.conf, there's this command deluser that I can't find a similar one on OpenBSD to replace it. I need a tool that is able to delete a user from a group, by using the username and the group as arguments. I've looked on userdel, useradd, groupmod and groupdel, but it seems that they won't do what I want... I think I'm missing something pretty obvious... =( Can anyone give me some hints please? -- An OpenBSD user... and that's all you need to know =)
Re: Is there a deluser equivalent in OpenBSD?
On 10/28/06, Leonardo Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, So, I'm trying to set up a samba server, and looking into the smb.conf, there's this command deluser that I can't find a similar one on OpenBSD to replace it. I need a tool that is able to delete a user from a group, by using the username and the group as arguments. I've looked on userdel, useradd, groupmod and groupdel, but it seems that they won't do what I want... I think I'm missing something pretty obvious... =( Can anyone give me some hints please? -- An OpenBSD user... and that's all you need to know =) man rmuser -- -Lawrence -Student ID 1028219
Re: Is there a deluser equivalent in OpenBSD?
On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 06:30:33PM -0300, Leonardo Rodrigues wrote: Hello everyone, So, I'm trying to set up a samba server, and looking into the smb.conf, there's this command deluser that I can't find a similar one on OpenBSD to replace it. I need a tool that is able to delete a user from a group, by using the username and the group as arguments. I've looked on userdel, useradd, groupmod and groupdel, but it seems that they won't do what I want... I think I'm missing something pretty obvious... =( Can anyone give me some hints please? Sorry, didn't read everything before replying before. See if usermod will work. -- Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ |
Re: Is there a deluser equivalent in OpenBSD?
The man page says rmuser only accepts an username as an argument... Thanks, but usermod (with -G arg) seems to only let me add users to a group or multiple groups, but not remove them . The man page, from what I could understand, also says nothing about removing users =( -- An OpenBSD user... and that's all you need to know =)
Re: Is there a deluser equivalent in OpenBSD?
On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 07:29:41PM -0300, Leonardo Rodrigues wrote: The man page says rmuser only accepts an username as an argument... Thanks, but usermod (with -G arg) seems to only let me add users to a group or multiple groups, but not remove them . The man page, from what I could understand, also says nothing about removing users =( Try userdel(8).
an OpenBSD Pumpkin
Does Anyone have a OpenBSD, or Puffy Pumpkin pattern, I want to carve a few and post pictures Sam Fourman Jr.
Re: Is there a deluser equivalent in OpenBSD?
Humm... From the man page of userdel(8): DESCRIPTION The userdel utility removes a user from the system, optionally removing that user's home directory and any subdirectories. So, it won't remove an user from a group, but an user from the entire system. No signs of removing from a group on the entire man page... Geez... seems like I won't find what I'm looking for... -- An OpenBSD user... and that's all you need to know =)
Re: an OpenBSD Pumpkin
On 29/10/06, Sam Fourman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Anyone have a OpenBSD, or Puffy Pumpkin pattern, I want to carve a few and post pictures. 1. Print out some of the higher-rez reference artwork: http://www.openbsd.org/art4.html 2. Follow this tutorial: http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joystuff/macolanternshowto.html http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joystuff/macolanternshowto2.html (Results gallery here: http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joystuff/macolanterns.html) 3. Take and upload pics and reply to the list with a link! :)
Re: an OpenBSD Pumpkin
I imagine the wireframe puffy would be pretty easy with those carving kits they sell at supermarkets. On 10/28/06, Sam Fourman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Anyone have a OpenBSD, or Puffy Pumpkin pattern, I want to carve a few and post pictures Sam Fourman Jr.
Re: Is there a deluser equivalent in OpenBSD?
On 10/28/06, Leonardo Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Humm... From the man page of userdel(8): DESCRIPTION The userdel utility removes a user from the system, optionally removing that user's home directory and any subdirectories. So, it won't remove an user from a group, but an user from the entire system. No signs of removing from a group on the entire man page... Geez... seems like I won't find what I'm looking for... Just edit the group itself, see /etc/group. Also take a look at usermod(8) again. -Nick
Re: an OpenBSD Pumpkin
Yeah wire frame puffy would probably work Good Idea Sam Fourman Jr. On 10/28/06, Bryan Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I imagine the wireframe puffy would be pretty easy with those carving kits they sell at supermarkets. On 10/28/06, Sam Fourman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Anyone have a OpenBSD, or Puffy Pumpkin pattern, I want to carve a few and post pictures Sam Fourman Jr.
Re: Contributing and Shame [Was: Lenovo notebooks?]
Eliah Kagan wrote: On 10/28/06, Breen Ouellette wrote: The shame enters the picture when you place expectations for additional output from the people giving freely. I see people griping all the time for this or that feature, or support for this or that hardware. I see this from people who contribute nothing and never will. I see what you're saying. On the other hand, I'm not sure the shame is less justified when people who do contribute place expectations for additional output from the people giving freely. In fact, whether or not such a person donates seems totally irrelevant to their placement of unjustified expectations. I agree with that totally. I just haven't encountered a person who donates and treats it as a 'fee for future services', although I imagine such people must exist. I am certain they would be shamed on the lists. People complain that certain hardware is not supported very well, but have they ever written even one email to the vendor demanding open documentation? These people should be ashamed, but of course they never will. These people should be ashamed (if indeed it is ever true to say that someone *should* experience some emotion...which it is not) because they fail to exercise their own autonomy, instead begging others who they see as being in positions of authority to magically fix the situation. This has nothing to do with loyalty or duty to the OpenBSD project, monetary or otherwise. I disagree with this because OpenBSD developers have made their goals clear, and magically fixing every problem thrown their way, especially fixes for lazy/stupid problems, is not one of those goals. However, I often see Linux or FreeBSD people writing about capturing a larger user base by being receptive to the user base needs, and talking as if they have to bend over backwards to try and accommodate user requests to grow market share. I don't feel that Linux users whining and complaining about 'missing' (aka unnecessary, superfluous) features is shameful behaviour because it seems to be expected behaviour in these communities, or at least segments of these communities. I also disagree with your position because shame is not just a feeling - it is also an action. Since shame may be inflicted by a community at large on individuals which go against the culture of that community, it is within reason to say that the behaviour we have been discussing is shameful in the OpenBSD community. When someone comes in and complains about something unreasonable to the OpenBSD community at large they are often publicly shamed on these lists. That same behaviour of expecting magic fixes, if it were applied to a larger community like that of North America (sorry if you aren't from this continent), would not be shameful in the least. People in North American culture whine and complain for fixes from higher authorities (governments, legal systems, corporations, gods, employers, unions, and on and on) all the time without being shamed by those around them. In fact, in most cases those around them agree wholeheartedly. How many people in North America are proactive in their daily lives? I believe the number is very few. In my wife's home town in mainland China there is a plaque on the temple. It lists the names of the heads of every household in the town and how much money has been donated by that family for the upkeep of the temple. Those who donate little to nothing are shamed by others in the town. People will refuse to talk to them, or do business with them, or help them in any way. They are called names and ridiculed where ever they go. It is a powerful incentive for people to donate for the upkeep of the temple, and people will put themselves in debt to make payments and avoid the shame. It works so well that it is dysfunctional. Should people who do not contribute to OpenBSD be shamed in this manner? Probably not. It seems to lead to very insular communities with serious problems (at least from what I have seen in China). However, if we define new ways to shame those who deserve it, beyond badmouthing them on this list, it could be beneficial to the OpenBSD project. Theo has shown some success in shaming companies about their restrictive policies. Perhaps there are other ways to use shaming to the advantage of the project. Of course, it is a dangerous tool and could become a major problem for the project as well. Breeno
Re: Contributing and Shame [Was: Lenovo notebooks?]
On 10/28/06, Breen Ouellette wrote: That same behaviour of expecting magic fixes, if it were applied to a larger community like that of North America (sorry if you aren't from this continent), would not be shameful in the least. People in North American culture whine and complain for fixes from higher authorities (governments, legal systems, corporations, gods, employers, unions, and on and on) all the time without being shamed by those around them. In fact, in most cases those around them agree wholeheartedly. How many people in North America are proactive in their daily lives? I believe the number is very few. Is your position then that people in North Americans who are not proactive in their daily lives should not be ashamed, because they act in accordance with the cultural expectations of their society? [...] if we define new ways to shame those who deserve it, beyond badmouthing them on this list, it could be beneficial to. the OpenBSD project. Theo has shown some success in shaming companies about their restrictive policies. It seems to me that he has shown some success in convincing companies (rather, the people who control companies) that it is in their interest to change their restrictive policies. It is not clear to me that shame, whether the emotion or the action, has anything to do with it. Perhaps there are other ways to use shaming to the advantage of the project. Of course, it is a dangerous tool and could become a major problem for the project as well. Perhaps so. I would say that perhaps there are ways to using shaming to the advantage of the project, since I am not convinced that anyone ha used shaming to the advantage of the project so far. It seems to me that the primary effect of shaming on the lists has been to convince people that it is in their interests to oppose the OpenBSD project. Arguably, shaming people on the lists has the positive effect of underscoring that the OpenBSD project doesn't embrace the kind of niceness that has become associated with ideologically hypocritical (or ideologically non-serious) software ventures. But this positive impact, if real, is not a result of shaming per se. Another possibility is that shaming people has an effect on OpenBSD similar to the effect of recreational drug use on many rock artists. (Highly idealized example follows.) Being perceived as correlated with success, some artists might think that it results in or aids success, which might be true under some rare, highly specialized circumstances--for instance, it might inspire some compositions. But in actuality, other factors tend to account for success, and the drug use mostly interferes both by taking up time better used for other ventures and by impairing the acts of practice and performance. Such rock artists may believe that their drug use leads people to like them and act in accordance with their goals, which is sometimes true, but probably doesn't outweigh the negative effects--and often people who like them and/or act in accordance with their goals do it in spite of the drug use, rather than because of it. And many people, many of them other rock artists or people valuable to rock artists in their advancement of artistic (and sometimes political, and sometimes economic) goals, simply disregard such rock artists as not worth their time. Due to lack of information and experience, I do not consider myself competent to evaluate any of these suggestions definitively. But perhaps some people here could. -Eliah
Re: Is there a deluser equivalent in OpenBSD?
Just edit the group itself, see /etc/group. Also take a look at usermod(8) again. -Nick First, thanks for the help everyone =) Actually, it wouldn't be practical to manually edit /etc/group. An userdel-like command is needed in the smb.conf of the samba server in order to graphically and easily manage users on the server by using a Windows NT server tool. Also, er, call me dumb, but after rereading usermod(8), I really see no way to explicitly remove an user from a group... =( By using -G or -g, it seems to be only able to add groups to an user, and not remove users from a given group... -- An OpenBSD user... and that's all you need to know =)
Re: Contributing and Shame [Was: Lenovo notebooks?]
On 29/10/06, Breen Ouellette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't feel that Linux users whining and complaining about 'missing' (aka unnecessary, superfluous) features is shameful behaviour because it seems to be expected behaviour in these communities, or at least segments of these communities. With every issue one has, there are two aspects: 0. Getting your own problem fixed. 1. Getting the general problem fixed. IMHO people who see (0) as an instantiation of (1) and who are primarily interested in (1) don't deserve shame. People who are only ever interested in (0) may deserve to be shamed. Focussing on (1) can take many forms: submitting useful information, problem reports, diffs, financial contributions, etc., and people who are genuinely interested in (1) will generally do what they can (but their abilities may be limited). With OpenBSD, the documentation is so good and there is so little dumbing down of the interface (none, actually, AFAICT), that there isn't any reason or excuse to whine. With Linux, getting to the point where you can do (1) often is considerably harder, especially for non-programmers. Whining can indeed be a necessary step along the way to (1) there. I have whined in Linux fora. I hope that no one thinks I'm whining here. --ropers
Re: Is there a deluser equivalent in OpenBSD?
On 10/28/06, Leonardo Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just edit the group itself, see /etc/group. Also take a look at usermod(8) again. -Nick First, thanks for the help everyone =) Actually, it wouldn't be practical to manually edit /etc/group. An userdel-like command is needed in the smb.conf of the samba server in order to graphically and easily manage users on the server by using a Windows NT server tool. Also, er, call me dumb, but after rereading usermod(8), I really see no way to explicitly remove an user from a group... =( By using -G or -g, it seems to be only able to add groups to an user, and not remove users from a given group... You are absolutely correct. I'm not too sure on it myself. As a hack, could you write a short script to edit it and call that? My other idea was something along the lines of dumping the list of all secondary groups the user is currently in and then running usermod -G[list of groups minus the one to remove] This is actually pretty tricky. There should be a way to do this. That means we are probably all just missing it. -Nick
Re: Is there a deluser equivalent in OpenBSD?
On 10/28/06, Leonardo Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, but usermod (with -G arg) seems to only let me add users to a group or multiple groups, but not remove them . The man page, from what I could understand, also says nothing about removing users =( I would call this a bug in usermod: when run with the -G option it should set the user's secondary group list to include exactly the indicated groups. That's how usermod operates under Solaris and Linux and is the obvious way to provide the functionality, though it _is_ kind of klunky. Philip Guenther
Re: Is there a deluser equivalent in OpenBSD?
Philip Guenther wrote: I would call this a bug in usermod: when run with the -G option it should set the user's secondary group list to include exactly the indicated groups. That's how usermod operates under Solaris and Linux What's more, I've seen *NIXes that had a -R option to groupmod that would remove users from groups. As Nick stated though, this is pretty trivial to write a script for. -JR [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: Using Exabyte Mammoth-2 tapes on OpenBSD
On 2006/09/25 at 04:02:45PM -0400, DoN. Nichols wrote: I've explicitly Cc'd the three who e-mailed me directly about this after I posted, to fill them in on things. (Though I strongly suspect that all would see it in the list as well.) All, I posted this a few days ago to comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc, and the only answer I got was mostly a suggestion that I post it here. So, here it is: I've got an Exabyte 430 tape jukebox with two drives (Mammoth-2). [ ... ] This is OpenBSD 3.8 on a Sun Ultra5 (sparc64 kernel). The only part of the system which does not come with it is the LVD SCSI card, which is documented in the dmesg information quoted below. [ ... ] And -- when we start having problems: == siop1: target 10 now using 16 bit 40.0 MHz 31 REQ/ACK offset xfers st0(siop1:10:0): unhandled message 0x23 st0(siop1:10:0): unhandled message 0x23 st0(siop1:10:0): unhandled message 0x23 siop1: target 9 now using 8 bit async xfers ch0: 30 slots, 2 drives, 1 picker, 1 portal siop1: target 11 now using 16 bit 40.0 MHz 31 REQ/ACK offset xfers st1(siop1:11:0): unhandled message 0x23 st1(siop1:11:0): unhandled message 0x23 st1(siop1:11:0): unhandled message 0x23 st0(siop1:10:0): Check Condition (error 0x70) on opcode 0x0 SENSE KEY: Not Ready ASC/ASCQ: Logical Unit Is in Process Of Becoming Ready st0(siop1:10:0): unhandled message 0x23 st0(siop1:10:0): unhandled message 0x23 st0(siop1:10:0): unhandled message 0x23 st0(siop1:10:0): unhandled message 0x23 st0(siop1:10:0): unhandled message 0x23 == So -- does OpenBSD 3.8 or 3.9 deal properly with Exabyte Mammoth 2 drives? [ ... ] If all else fails, I'll pick up another Ultra-5 or Ultra-10, stuff Solaris 10 into it, and use the PCI LVD card in that, since I do know that Solaris 10 *will* write to the drives -- even with the wrong SCSI interface. (I wish that I could find a LVD SCSI card in sBus format for the Ultra-2. :-) O.K. I now have OpenBSD 4.0, and it works nicely in an Ultra-60 which I picked up for the purpose. (It also works nicely with Solaris 10 U 2 in the same box, so I now have my choices here.) I did have to download a driver for Solaris for the LVD card (the driver was labeled as being for Solaris 8 and 9, but it works nicely with Solaris 10). So -- the improved tape driver, or the improved driver for the LVD card did it -- or some combination. BTW One of you suggested that I try using a Sun D1000 as a HVD to LVD level translator -- but examination of the Sun FEH shows that it really would work only as a HVD to SE translator, as it presents a SE SCSI bus to the drives. Now all I need to do is wait for the packages to be opened up so I can populate this as I like. Thanks all -- 4.0 did it. DoN. P.S.I really like the new package. (And the song seems just about right for Obelix's singing overriding everyone else. :-) -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---
