Re: Running OpenBSD on Raspberry Pi

2013-01-09 Thread BARDOU Pierre
Hello, 

Many thanks for all those advices.
All of them make sense, but :
* An used computer (I have plenty of them) cost 50-100€ a year in power (and is 
big and heats a lot, but that's not my main concern).
* Alix or soekris are nice hardware, but expensive for me. I intend to build a 
home router to play a bit with networking, not an enterprise grade solution
* Raspberry cost 50€ with power adapter, 16 GB SD card and case. I added 15€ 
for a wifi USB dongle and 20€ for a 802.1q switch. The power adapter is a 5V 
1A, so it uses 5W power or less.

TCO on five years :
Alix : 200€ hardware (with power supply, CF, WiFi and case), 25€ power = 225€
Used computer from my closet : 0€ hardware, at least 250€ power = 250 €
Raspberry : 85€ hardware, 25€ power = 110€

Half price. So I bought a raspberry. I does routing, firewalling, samba PDC 
with LDAP, DNS and DHCP. 
The only drawback : I have to use iptables (no need to recompile, works OOTB), 
and I found its syntax way less pleasant to use than its PF counterpart.

Unfortunately, my coding skills are way too limited to try to port OpenBSD...
So if nobody around thinks it worth the trouble to do it (with some good 
reasons I read in this thread), no problem. I'll stick on OpenBSD at work, and 
play with linux at home.

--
Cordialement,
Pierre BARDOU

De : Andres Genovez [mailto:andresgeno...@gmail.com] 
Envoyé : mercredi 9 janvier 2013 21:21
À : Gene
Cc : BARDOU Pierre; misc@openbsd.org
Objet : Re: Running OpenBSD on Raspberry Pi


2013/1/9 Gene 
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Andres Genovez  wrote:
> 2012/12/31 BARDOU Pierre 
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I would be very interested by an OpenBSD port too.
>> Usage : home router with firewall, DNS and DHCP.
>>
>> I am looking into FreeBSD and NetBSD ports, but I would prefer to have the
>> latest PF and OpenSSH versions... plus I am more used to OpenBSD and I like
>> using it :-)
>>
>> If somebody knows X86 hardware able to do the same (routing/firewlling 20
>> mbps traffic, VLAN, fits in a tiny box, power consumption below 5W, price
>> around 50$) as the raspberry I am interested BTW.
>>
> I am interested too, can somebody give an advice on what hardware to use?
> maybe 5 lan or at least two lan? an below 100?
>
For under $100 USD your best bet is to look for a used computer on
craigslist or a yard sale and install another NIC in it.  But, this
will not get you at 5 watts or less.

For under $200 look at either PC Engines ALIX boards or Soekris.  eBay
has plenty of them.  You can manage 5W or less this route.

For the Raspberry Pi you will not get OpenBSD.  You will have to use
Linux and configure it manually, including recompiling the kernel with
iptables support.  You *might* be able to get under $100, but it won't
be under 5 watts and it will be a jalopy.  USB ethernet adapters start
around $25 new.
Thanks, i will look forward those, because a Mikrotik is under 100, and 
features over 1000.
 
-Gene



-- 
Atentamente

Andrés Genovez Tobar / DTIT
Elastix ECE - Linux  LPI-1 - Novell CLA - Apple ACMT - Mikrotik 
MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCRE/MTCWE
http://www.cspmsa.com



Re: new computer

2013-01-09 Thread K . André Braselmann
Buy a refurbished ThinkPad, still better older ThinkPad than
> shitty plastic Acer/Asus crapbook.
>
> jirib
>
> I've got 3 pieces of them in the basement. After 1095 days (warranty in
germany: 3 yrs)
battery is dead (spare 100€) and the rest will also give up in the next
half year.
Seems to be the "El cheapo Canon printer business model". Usually they got
exactly ONE BIOS update.
Bought several used ThinkPads and everyone is happy. In Germany about
200-300€

André



Re: Foxconn NanoPC nT-i1250 fails to boot after install

2013-01-09 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 04:30:21PM -0800, Kent Fritz wrote:
> Install works fine, but consistently stops after printing:
> wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
> 
> Same behavior for 5.2 release, current, amd64 and i386, and another
> model nT-i2847.  Any hints where to poke next?

Shot in the dark: Does it not hang if you disable the pms driver
via boot -c? See the boot_config(8) man page.

The RAMDISK_CD kernel doesn't have pms compiled in, and it might be
the next thing pckbd0 is trying to initialise in the GENERIC kernel.



Foxconn NanoPC nT-i1250 fails to boot after install

2013-01-09 Thread Kent Fritz
Install works fine, but consistently stops after printing:
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0

Same behavior for 5.2 release, current, amd64 and i386, and another
model nT-i2847.  Any hints where to poke next?

dmesg from booting bsd.rd follows.  Thanks.

Kent

OpenBSD 5.2-current (RAMDISK_CD) #14: Tue Jan  8 14:28:01 MST 2013
dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/RAMDISK_CD
cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D2550 @ 1.86GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.87 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,NXE,LONG,SSE3,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE,LAHF,PERF,ITSC
real mem  = 2132189184 (2033MB)
avail mem = 2089598976 (1992MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 05/09/11, SMBIOS rev. 2.7 @
0x7f002010 (46 entries)
bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version "4.6.5" date 03/14/2012
bios0: Foxconn nT-i1000 Series
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG SSDT SSDT SSDT IFEU
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 133MHz
cpu at mainbus0: not configured
cpu at mainbus0: not configured
cpu at mainbus0: not configured
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 4 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 3 (P0P8)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 1 (RP01)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 2 (RP02)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP03)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP04)
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xf400! 0xcf800/0x1000
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 vendor "Intel", unknown product 0x0bf3 rev 0x03
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 vendor "Intel", unknown product 0x0be2 rev 0x09
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 "Intel 82801GB PCIE" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 16
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vendor "Intel", unknown product 0x0890 (class network subclass
miscellaneous, rev 0xc4) at pci1 dev 0 function 0 not configured
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 "Intel 82801GB PCIE" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 17
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
re0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Realtek 8168" rev 0x07:
RTL8168E/8111E-VL (0x2c80), apic 4 int 17, address d0:27:88:d5:72:6e
rgephy0 at re0 phy 7: RTL8169S/8110S PHY, rev. 5
uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 23
uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 19
uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 18
uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 16
ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 23
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ppb2 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 "Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI" rev 0xe2
pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
pcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Intel NM10 LPC" rev 0x02
ahci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 "Intel 82801GR AHCI" rev 0x02: msi, AHCI 1.1
scsibus0 at ahci0: 32 targets
sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0:  SCSI3
0/direct fixed naa.50014ee657159cc7
sd0: 152627MB, 512 bytes/sector, 312581808 sectors
"Intel 82801GB SMBus" rev 0x02 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 not configured
usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
uhub3 at usb3 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb4 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0
uhub4 at usb4 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16
umass0 at uhub0 port 6 configuration 1 interface 0 " CENTON USB" rev
2.00/11.00 addr 2
umass0: using SCSI over Bulk-Only
scsibus1 at umass0: 2 targets, initiator 0
sd1 at scsibus1 targ 1 lun 0:  SCSI2 0/direct
removable serial.090c10002196
sd1: 30600MB, 512 bytes/sector, 62668800 sectors
umass1 at uhub0 port 7 configuration 1 interface 0 "Generic
USB2.0-CRW" rev 2.00/38.82 addr 3
umass1: using SCSI over Bulk-Only
scsibus2 at umass1: 2 targets, initiator 0
sd2 at scsibus2 targ 1 lun 0:  SCSI0
0/direct removable serial.0bda013851638820
uhub5 at uhub0 port 8 "vendor 0x105b product 0x0d7d" rev 2.00/77.64 addr 4
uhub6 at uhub3 port 1 "ALCOR Generic USB Hub" rev 1.10/3.12 addr 2
uhidev0 at uhub6 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0 "Dell Dell USB
Keyboard" rev 1.10/3.01 addr 3
uhidev0: iclass 3/1
ukbd0 at uhidev0
wskbd1 at ukbd0 mux 1
wskbd1: connecting to wsdisplay0
uhidev1 at uhub6 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0 "vendor 0x0461 USB
Optical Mouse" rev 2.00/2.00 addr 4
uhidev1: iclass 3/1
uhid at uhidev1 not configured
uhidev2 at uhub6 port 3 configuration 1 interface 0 "No brand 4 Port
KVMSwi

Re: new computer

2013-01-09 Thread Olivier Calzi
Exactly, we are not here to debate about which firm is better but for the
probleme every one can be met with openbsd or some subjects about
technologie which is on Openbsd.

Best Regards
Olivier Calzi


2013/1/9 Matt Morrow 

> Your comments about asus are strictly personal opinion. I've owned an Asus
> laptop for more than a year and it has been rock solid. I've knocked it
> onto the floor a couple of times, it has been banged around and it's still
> going strong. Also cheaper than a thinkpad.
>
>
> >
> > Buy a refurbished ThinkPad, still better older ThinkPad than
> > shitty plastic Acer/Asus crapbook.
> >
> > jirib
>
>


-- 
Cordialement
Olivier Calzi



Re: new computer

2013-01-09 Thread Matt Morrow
Your comments about asus are strictly personal opinion. I've owned an Asus
laptop for more than a year and it has been rock solid. I've knocked it
onto the floor a couple of times, it has been banged around and it's still
going strong. Also cheaper than a thinkpad.


>
> Buy a refurbished ThinkPad, still better older ThinkPad than
> shitty plastic Acer/Asus crapbook.
>
> jirib



Re: new computer

2013-01-09 Thread Jiri B
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 04:53:08PM +0100, Zoran Kolic wrote:
> For some future period I will get new node to run on openbsd.
> First dilema is to have laptop or desktop. Both have something
> to learn about supported hardware. I'd like to know what are
> popular el cheapo parts. Current, since at my place anything
> older than 1-2 years cannot be found.
> 
> 1. For desktop, some integrated solution. Like amd a4-3300.
> Or to run for intel? No need for 3d or movies or games. I cannot
> understand the state of this newer chips. In short: what inte-
> grated cpu? What is good and proven mobo for that cpu?
> 
> 2. The only option not to break the bank, 14" laptop is asus x401a.
> Intel Celeron Dual Core B830 1.8GH, Intel HD Graphics 2000
> (Intel GT2), probably some atheros bgn wifi.HM70 Express Chip
> set. Or: AMD Ontario Dual-Core C60 1.33GH, AMD Radeon
> Mobility HD6290 (C60) AP, whoknowswhatwifi, as amd version.
> 
> I've read supported hardware lists. Something is not available,
> something is on expensive side. I already have nodes for mundane
> tasks and would like to have dedicated box for openbsd, 64 bit.
> If I go for desktop, I want the least expensive option and wor-
> king on openbsd 5.2. The same for 14 inch laptop, probably with
> matte screen, which is hard to find under $500.
> The more I read, less I know what to buy.
> Best regards

Buy a refurbished ThinkPad, still better older ThinkPad than
shitty plastic Acer/Asus crapbook.

jirib



Re: Running OpenBSD on Raspberry Pi

2013-01-09 Thread Andres Genovez
2013/1/9 Gene 

> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Andres Genovez 
> wrote:
> > 2012/12/31 BARDOU Pierre 
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I would be very interested by an OpenBSD port too.
> >> Usage : home router with firewall, DNS and DHCP.
> >>
> >> I am looking into FreeBSD and NetBSD ports, but I would prefer to have
> the
> >> latest PF and OpenSSH versions... plus I am more used to OpenBSD and I
> like
> >> using it :-)
> >>
> >> If somebody knows X86 hardware able to do the same (routing/firewlling
> 20
> >> mbps traffic, VLAN, fits in a tiny box, power consumption below 5W,
> price
> >> around 50$) as the raspberry I am interested BTW.
> >>
> > I am interested too, can somebody give an advice on what hardware to use?
> > maybe 5 lan or at least two lan? an below 100?
> >
>
> For under $100 USD your best bet is to look for a used computer on
> craigslist or a yard sale and install another NIC in it.  But, this
> will not get you at 5 watts or less.
>
> For under $200 look at either PC Engines ALIX boards or Soekris.  eBay
> has plenty of them.  You can manage 5W or less this route.
>
> For the Raspberry Pi you will not get OpenBSD.  You will have to use
> Linux and configure it manually, including recompiling the kernel with
> iptables support.  You *might* be able to get under $100, but it won't
> be under 5 watts and it will be a jalopy.  USB ethernet adapters start
> around $25 new.
>
> Thanks, i will look forward those, because a Mikrotik is under 100, and
features over 1000.


> -Gene
>



--
Atentamente

Andrés Genovez Tobar / DTIT
Elastix ECE - Linux  LPI-1 - Novell CLA - Apple ACMT - Mikrotik
MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCRE/MTCWE
http://www.cspmsa.com



msi_delroute() panic

2013-01-09 Thread Jim Miller
Hi All,

I saw a previous post back in late December where someone was discussing
a random panic() related to msi_delroute().  I'm having the same problem
I believe on a OpenBSD 5.1 box.  The panic manifests itself about every
week but no I can't find any specific event that is the cause.  It
appears related to the em driver thinking it is being removed.  Any
ideas or suggestions on how to debug this further?

ddb{2}> trace
Debugger() at Debugger+0x5
panic() at panic+0xe4
msi_delroute() at msi_delroute+0x54
intr_disestablish() at intr_disestablish+0xe9
em_detach() at em_detach+0x26
config_detach() at config_detach+0x143
config_detach_children() at config_detach_children+0x3e
pci_detach_devices() at pci_detach_devices+0x15
ppb_hotplug_remove() at ppb_hotplug_remove+0x26
workq_thread() at workq_thread+0x33
end trace frame: 0x0, count: -10

ddb{2}> show panic
msi_delroute: no msi capability

ddb{2}> machine ddbcpu 1
Stopped at  Debugger+0x5:   leave
RUN AT LEAST 'trace' AND 'ps' AND INCLUDE OUTPUT WHEN REPORTING THIS PANIC!
IF RUNNING SMP, USE 'mach ddbcpu <#>' AND 'trace' ON OTHER PROCESSORS, TOO.
DO NOT EVEN BOTHER REPORTING THIS WITHOUT INCLUDING THAT INFORMATION!

ddb{1}> ps
   PID   PPID   PGRPUID  S   FLAGS  WAIT  COMMAND
  7473  31910   7473  0  30x80  ttyin bash
 21722  31910  21722  0  30x80  ttyin bash
 31910  1  31910  0  30x80  selectscreen
  5621  1   5621  0  30x80  ttyin getty
  6818  1   6818  0  30x80  selectsendmail
 27397  1  27397  0  30x80  ttyin getty
 18642  1  18642  0  30x80  ttyin getty
 20939  1  20939  0  30x80  ttyin getty
 19043  1  19043  0  30x80  ttyin getty
 22270  1  22270  0  30x80  ttyin getty
 13738  1  13738  0  30x80  selectcron
 17462  1  17462 99  30x80  poll  sndiod
 25578  1  25578  0  30x80  selectsshd
  3068   6655   6655 68  30x80  selectsasyncd
  6655  1   6655  0  30x80  selectsasyncd
 8   4076   4076 68  30x80  selectisakmpd
  4076  1   4076  0  30x80  netio isakmpd
 16603  1  16603  0  30x80  poll  ntpd
  9965  14530   9965 83  30x80  poll  ntpd
 14530  1  14530 83  30x80  poll  ntpd
 28104   8325   8325 70  30x80  selectnamed
  8325  1   8325  0  30x80  netio named
  5060  11080  11080 74  30x80  bpf   pflogd
 11080  1  11080  0  30x80  netio pflogd
 27911  10551  10551 73  30x80  poll  syslogd
 10551  1  10551  0  30x80  netio syslogd
16  0  0  0  30x100200  aiodoned  aiodoned
15  0  0  0  30x100200  syncerupdate
14  0  0  0  30x100200  cleaner   cleaner
13  0  0  0  30x100200  reaperreaper
12  0  0  0  30x100200  pgdaemon  pagedaemon
11  0  0  0  30x100200  bored crypto
10  0  0  0  30x100200  pftm  pfpurge
 9  0  0  0  30x100200  usbtskusbtask
 8  0  0  0  30x100200  usbatsk   usbatsk
 7  0  0  0  30x100200  acpi0 acpi0
 6  0  0  0  7  0x40100200idle3
 5  0  0  0  3  0x40100200idle2
*4  0  0  0  7  0x40100200idle1
 3  0  0  0  70x100200syswq
 2  0  0  0  7  0x40100200idle0
 1  0  1  0  30x80  wait  init
 0 -1  0  0  3   0x200  scheduler swapper

ddb{1}> machine ddbcpu 2
Stopped at  Debugger+0x5:   leave
RUN AT LEAST 'trace' AND 'ps' AND INCLUDE OUTPUT WHEN REPORTING THIS PANIC!
IF RUNNING SMP, USE 'mach ddbcpu <#>' AND 'trace' ON OTHER PROCESSORS, TOO.
DO NOT EVEN BOTHER REPORTING THIS WITHOUT INCLUDING THAT INFORMATION!

ddb{2}> trace
Debugger() at Debugger+0x5
panic() at panic+0xe4
msi_delroute() at msi_delroute+0x54
intr_disestablish() at intr_disestablish+0xe9
em_detach() at em_detach+0x26
config_detach() at config_detach+0x143
config_detach_children() at config_detach_children+0x3e
pci_detach_devices() at pci_detach_devices+0x15
ppb_hotplug_remove() at ppb_hotplug_remove+0x26
workq_thread() at workq_thread+0x33
end trace frame: 0x0, count: -10

ddb{2}> machine ddbcpu 3
Stopped at  Debugger+0x5:   leave
RUN AT LEAST 'trace' AND 'ps' AND INCLUDE OUTPUT WHEN REPORTING THIS PANIC!
IF RUNNING SMP, USE 'mach ddbcpu <#>' AND 'trace' ON OTHER PROCESSORS, TOO.
DO NOT EVEN 

Re: Running OpenBSD on Raspberry Pi

2013-01-09 Thread Gene
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Andres Genovez  wrote:
> 2012/12/31 BARDOU Pierre 
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I would be very interested by an OpenBSD port too.
>> Usage : home router with firewall, DNS and DHCP.
>>
>> I am looking into FreeBSD and NetBSD ports, but I would prefer to have the
>> latest PF and OpenSSH versions... plus I am more used to OpenBSD and I like
>> using it :-)
>>
>> If somebody knows X86 hardware able to do the same (routing/firewlling 20
>> mbps traffic, VLAN, fits in a tiny box, power consumption below 5W, price
>> around 50$) as the raspberry I am interested BTW.
>>
> I am interested too, can somebody give an advice on what hardware to use?
> maybe 5 lan or at least two lan? an below 100?
>

For under $100 USD your best bet is to look for a used computer on
craigslist or a yard sale and install another NIC in it.  But, this
will not get you at 5 watts or less.

For under $200 look at either PC Engines ALIX boards or Soekris.  eBay
has plenty of them.  You can manage 5W or less this route.

For the Raspberry Pi you will not get OpenBSD.  You will have to use
Linux and configure it manually, including recompiling the kernel with
iptables support.  You *might* be able to get under $100, but it won't
be under 5 watts and it will be a jalopy.  USB ethernet adapters start
around $25 new.

-Gene



Re: Bad major libc.so.66.0 while trying to install via pkg_add

2013-01-09 Thread Michel Blais

I installed current from a CD I took on my desk thinking it was the release.

Thanks Janne and sorry for the noise.

Le 2013-01-09 13:18, Janne Johansson a écrit :

You have updated your system beyond the time when those packages were built.
OR;
You have updated your system and forgot to update PKG_PATH or
/etc/pkg.conf to reflect it.

See
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html#NoFun


2013/1/9 Michel Blais :

Hi,

The're 2 package I'm not able to install.

# uname -a
OpenBSD myhostname.mydomain.com 5.2 GENERIC.MP#8 amd64

# pkg_add nano
Can't install libiconv-1.14 because of libraries
|library c.65.0 not found
| /usr/lib/libc.so.66.0 (system): bad major
Can't install gettext-0.18.1p3: can't resolve libiconv-1.14
Can't install nano-2.2.6: can't resolve gettext-0.18.1p3,libiconv-1.14
# pkg_add pmacct
Can't install pmacct-0.12.5p1 because of libraries
|library c.65.0 not found
| /usr/lib/libc.so.66.0 (system): bad major

Anything I must do to fix it or I must try on current ?

Thanks

Michel







--
Cordialement,
Best regards,

Michel Blais
Administrateur réseau / Network administrator
Targo Communications
www.targo.ca
514-448-0773



Re: Running OpenBSD on Raspberry Pi

2013-01-09 Thread Andres Genovez
2012/12/31 BARDOU Pierre 

> Hello,
>
> I would be very interested by an OpenBSD port too.
> Usage : home router with firewall, DNS and DHCP.
>
> I am looking into FreeBSD and NetBSD ports, but I would prefer to have the
> latest PF and OpenSSH versions... plus I am more used to OpenBSD and I like
> using it :-)
>
> If somebody knows X86 hardware able to do the same (routing/firewlling 20
> mbps traffic, VLAN, fits in a tiny box, power consumption below 5W, price
> around 50$) as the raspberry I am interested BTW.
>
I am interested too, can somebody give an advice on what hardware to use?
maybe 5 lan or at least two lan? an below 100?

>
> --
> Cordialement,
> Pierre BARDOU
>
>
> -Message d'origine-
> De : Doug Brewer [mailto:brewer.d...@gmail.com]
> Envoyé : lundi 31 décembre 2012 09:39
> À : KarlOskar Rikås; misc@openbsd.org
> Objet : Re: Running OpenBSD on Raspberry Pi
>
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 12:13 AM, Tobias Ulmer  wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 05:01:23PM +0100, KarlOskar Rikås wrote:
> >> Hi, I wonder if it's possible to run OpenBSD on Raspberry Pi.
> >>
> >> Is there any image ready for putting on my SD card and boot up? If
> >> not, is there any manual or guide how to make one?
> >
> > No it's not possible and there are no plans to change that. Search the
> > archives if you're interested in the reasons.
> >
> > In short, there is plenty of better performing and better documented
> > hardware available for nearly the same price. This makes the rpi
> > unattractive for developers.
>
> If so, try install FreeBSD. Last time I checked, it worked pretty well for
> me.
>
> BR,
> Doug.
>
>


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Re: Bad major libc.so.66.0 while trying to install via pkg_add

2013-01-09 Thread Janne Johansson
You have updated your system beyond the time when those packages were built.
OR;
You have updated your system and forgot to update PKG_PATH or
/etc/pkg.conf to reflect it.

See
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html#NoFun


2013/1/9 Michel Blais :
> Hi,
>
> The're 2 package I'm not able to install.
>
> # uname -a
> OpenBSD myhostname.mydomain.com 5.2 GENERIC.MP#8 amd64
>
> # pkg_add nano
> Can't install libiconv-1.14 because of libraries
> |library c.65.0 not found
> | /usr/lib/libc.so.66.0 (system): bad major
> Can't install gettext-0.18.1p3: can't resolve libiconv-1.14
> Can't install nano-2.2.6: can't resolve gettext-0.18.1p3,libiconv-1.14
> # pkg_add pmacct
> Can't install pmacct-0.12.5p1 because of libraries
> |library c.65.0 not found
> | /usr/lib/libc.so.66.0 (system): bad major
>
> Anything I must do to fix it or I must try on current ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Michel
>



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new computer

2013-01-09 Thread Zoran Kolic
For some future period I will get new node to run on openbsd.
First dilema is to have laptop or desktop. Both have something
to learn about supported hardware. I'd like to know what are
popular el cheapo parts. Current, since at my place anything
older than 1-2 years cannot be found.

1. For desktop, some integrated solution. Like amd a4-3300.
Or to run for intel? No need for 3d or movies or games. I cannot
understand the state of this newer chips. In short: what inte-
grated cpu? What is good and proven mobo for that cpu?

2. The only option not to break the bank, 14" laptop is asus x401a.
Intel Celeron Dual Core B830 1.8GH, Intel HD Graphics 2000
(Intel GT2), probably some atheros bgn wifi.HM70 Express Chip
set. Or: AMD Ontario Dual-Core C60 1.33GH, AMD Radeon
Mobility HD6290 (C60) AP, whoknowswhatwifi, as amd version.

I've read supported hardware lists. Something is not available,
something is on expensive side. I already have nodes for mundane
tasks and would like to have dedicated box for openbsd, 64 bit.
If I go for desktop, I want the least expensive option and wor-
king on openbsd 5.2. The same for 14 inch laptop, probably with
matte screen, which is hard to find under $500.
The more I read, less I know what to buy.
Best regards

Zoran



Bad major libc.so.66.0 while trying to install via pkg_add

2013-01-09 Thread Michel Blais

Hi,

The're 2 package I'm not able to install.

# uname -a
OpenBSD myhostname.mydomain.com 5.2 GENERIC.MP#8 amd64

# pkg_add nano
Can't install libiconv-1.14 because of libraries
|library c.65.0 not found
| /usr/lib/libc.so.66.0 (system): bad major
Can't install gettext-0.18.1p3: can't resolve libiconv-1.14
Can't install nano-2.2.6: can't resolve gettext-0.18.1p3,libiconv-1.14
# pkg_add pmacct
Can't install pmacct-0.12.5p1 because of libraries
|library c.65.0 not found
| /usr/lib/libc.so.66.0 (system): bad major

Anything I must do to fix it or I must try on current ?

Thanks

Michel



Re: Running OpenBSD on Raspberry Pi

2013-01-09 Thread Tor Houghton
Someone mentioned buying a cheap thin client on eBay; while you're at it,
buy a cheap switch that supports Ethernet trunking -- that way you can
cheaply extend your thin client's Ethernet port count (I used a Zyxel 2108 a
while back).

While we're on shoestring infrastructure and budgets, I mean.

Tor



small web hosting

2013-01-09 Thread Tomasz Marszal
Hi Group
Lets imagine there are 4 computers and one managable switch with vlan and
qos.
the scenerio look like this



| firewall 1 + deamons (www dns webmail )  firewall 3 database
internet - switch | |pfsync   |rsync 
|pfsync   |replication
| firewall 2 + deamons (www dns webmail )  firewall 4 database


or maybe like this 

| firewall 1 + deamons (www dns webmail ) 
internet - switch | |pfsync   |rsync  
| firewall 2 + deamons (www dns webmail ) 
|
| firewall 3 database
||pfsync   |replication
| firewall 4 database

firewall 1 & 2 vlan 1
firewall 2 & 3 vlan 2

My question is scenerio 2 beter then 1 and is there a sens of doing
redundant firewall with pfsync carp rsync and duplicated servers or is it
beter to use this two computers to spred services for example firewall 1
for web and dns and second for emails.
There is no doubt db should be replicated but should i duplicate web serwer
if using raid mirroring what is beter ?
asuming i have only 4 computers and relativly slow upload link like 3-4
Mb/s. This is not the problem because the company is destined  for the
local market and serv no movies radio and music.



Re: growfs on bsd.rd

2013-01-09 Thread Nick Holland
On 01/08/13 23:38, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera wrote:
> On 2013-01-04 00:41, Aaron Mason wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera
>>  wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm curious as to why growfs is not included in bsd.rd.  Is there any
>>> particular reason for this? I belive it would be inmensly useful - since
>>> bsd.rd is the first thing one would think of when needing to grow a root
>>> partition (or a partition you don't want normally want to unmount).
>>>
>>> I've googled a bit, but haven't found anything related.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Hugo Osvaldo Barrera
>>>
>> 
>> It's not too difficult to add tools to the ramdisk.
>> 
>> http://www.thats-too-much.info/2013/01/04/work-smarter-not-harder-roll-your-own-openbsd-ram-disk/
>> 
> 
> My goal with this email was rather aimed to suggest growfs be included,
> or to ask why it isn't, I've found I can easily mount /, copy growfs,
> and umount / as a quick workaround anyway.

space is at a premium on the ramdisk kernels.  Since there's a "quick
workaround", I think I'll take drivers or other things where there is no
workaround...

Nick.



Re: growfs on bsd.rd

2013-01-09 Thread Renzo Fabriek
On Wednesday 09 January 2013 05:38:26 Hugo Osvaldo Barrera wrote:
> On 2013-01-04 00:41, Aaron Mason wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera
> >  wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I'm curious as to why growfs is not included in bsd.rd.  Is there any
> >> particular reason for this? I belive it would be inmensly useful - since
> >> bsd.rd is the first thing one would think of when needing to grow a root
> >> partition (or a partition you don't want normally want to unmount).
> >>
> >> I've googled a bit, but haven't found anything related.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> --
> >> Hugo Osvaldo Barrera
> >>
> > 
> > It's not too difficult to add tools to the ramdisk.
> > 
> > http://www.thats-too-much.info/2013/01/04/work-smarter-not-harder-roll-your-own-openbsd-ram-disk/
> > 
> 
> My goal with this email was rather aimed to suggest growfs be included,
> or to ask why it isn't, I've found I can easily mount /, copy growfs,
> and umount / as a quick workaround anyway.
> 

Space is the main reason. The mini system still has to fit on small install 
media. If you look at the install floppy's, you will see that they have to 
prune the kernel to make it fit. That job will get more difficult or maybe 
impossible if the mini system gets larger. I'm sure it is mentioned somewhere.

Of course they can make a different mini system for bsd.rd. But again, more 
work and you get two different mini systems.

gr
Renzo



Re: Current isolation best practices?

2013-01-09 Thread Jiri B
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 07:28:41AM +, John Long wrote:
> I use Solaris zones to isolate a lot of stuff and I can host shell accounts
> and occasional open source projects safely as far as I know. I would like to
> be able to offer OpenBSD shell accounts but I don't know how to do that
> safely without dedicating a machine to it so I haven't done it. I think
> there would be a lot of value in zones/jails on OpenBSD. Mostly zones are a
> superior solution to virtualbox/vmware etc. because they're very light and
> provide good isolation and resource control and make good overall use of the
> hardware. 

As you know on Solaris a zone can use limited resources.

So first OpenBSD would need to have a feature to group
processes into resource pools to limit resources usage.

Then WPAR/zone/lxc-like feature would make *real* sense.

For shell accounts you can right now just use sshd with chroot
and manage each chroot with jailkit. If you need temporary
environment for devs, check oVirt and their 'pool' funcionality
which offers 'pool' of VMs where each one can be stateless.

jirib