Re: bcw(4) is gone
On 4/5/07, Daniel Ouellet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And this make it even worst: http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=38746 All good work and good faith to come with better end results is wrongfully drag into mud. I read all the thread and this makes me sick! It only makes me more sick with anything carrying GPL, Linux, and Broadcom names on it. Even the part of the discussion about relicensing code so that they can include it in their GPL because Linus refuse BSD code was a twisted angle to try to justify their actions. This makes me sick! I guess all the Microsoft of the world that can't compete on good, secure and clean code got an other win today as they can't beat the good guys at their own game, well no need let them destroy each others so we win anyway in the end. A great day for the Open Source community I tell you. This makes me so sick that I can't even come up with words to describe it properly, so I will not try! Where is the Open Community is going these days... What's wrong? They protect their license. Period.
Re: bcw(4) is gone
On 4/5/07, Daniel Ouellet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andris Delfino wrote: What's wrong? They protect their license. Period. Did you read the full tread first before you wrote this? Did you look at the code in CVS, did you even see Marcus reply and why? http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.wireless.general/1573 I don't think you did! He sure did a hell of a huge amount of work that was his, and original for your own benefit, and the only mistakes he may have done was to try to work on it faster then he may should have and wrongly include temporary files to help in the process! Should he had finish his work in a later time and not try to make this available sooner to us, then nothing would have been said on this. In any case a simple private email to him directly would have been the decent human being things to do, but I guess you don't even get that do you? Just like I said before. Where the hell is the open community is going these days, I have no clue... Look to me it sure enjoy destroy itself for sure. I am lost for words! Yes, and he was wrong. He shouldn't base his work in copylefted software (if he intend to release the result as non-copylefted). Licenses are licenses.
Re: bcw(4) is gone
On 4/5/07, Steven Harms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This isnt a question of him being wrong, its a question of HOW IT WAS HANDLED. Get it? The simple courtesy of privately emailing someone would have taken 30 seconds and would have saved everyone a bunch of time, energy, and embarrassment. On 4/5/07, Andris Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/5/07, Daniel Ouellet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andris Delfino wrote: What's wrong? They protect their license. Period. Did you read the full tread first before you wrote this? Did you look at the code in CVS, did you even see Marcus reply and why? http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.wireless.general/1573 I don't think you did! He sure did a hell of a huge amount of work that was his, and original for your own benefit, and the only mistakes he may have done was to try to work on it faster then he may should have and wrongly include temporary files to help in the process! Should he had finish his work in a later time and not try to make this available sooner to us, then nothing would have been said on this. In any case a simple private email to him directly would have been the decent human being things to do, but I guess you don't even get that do you? Just like I said before. Where the hell is the open community is going these days, I have no clue... Look to me it sure enjoy destroy itself for sure. I am lost for words! Yes, and he was wrong. He shouldn't base his work in copylefted software (if he intend to release the result as non-copylefted). Licenses are licenses. He should realized that he couldn't do that... get it?
Re: bcw(4) is gone
On 4/5/07, Rogier Krieger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/6/07, Andris Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's wrong? They protect their license. Period. No one seems to dispute the right of copyright holders to protect their licence. That said, there are more ways than one to protect one's licence. It hardly seems unreasonable to privately contact the developer in question before going public, as seems to be the custom in many other suspected licence issues. Choosing to first send a private message would likely have remedied any issues, both quickly and with a lot less fallout. Too bad that that didn't happen. Rogier First, this wouldn't happen cause I prefer the BSD license, but, if someone violates the copyright of my work, I'll take that guy down. In the most publicly and shameful way.
Re: OpenOffice.org 2.0 works on OpenBSD
Follow these steps, they worked just fine to me in OpenBSD 3.9: http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/openoffice_on_openbsd.html Good luck On 6/6/06, Nikolaus Hiebaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, In October of last year, Frank reported that he succeeded in installing OpenOffice 2.0 on OpenBSD (cf. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-miscm=112984281031654w=2). Unfortunately, his blog where the steps were listed is off-line (http://www.00f.net/php/show-article.php/openoffice_on_openbsd). Contacting Frank via e-mail was unsuccesfull. Hence, maybe he reads my message here or someone can still remember the installation steps. Basically, I would like to have the instruction he outlined in his blog. ;-) If someone could provide me with it, I'd be grateful. (According to Google, there is an instruction on http://www.infobsd.org/, but this server is unreachable at the moment and only referd to Frank's blog (if Google's Cache is correct).) http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:H-OhhgjaNhcJ:www.infobsd.org/+openoffice+openbsdhl=degl=atct=clnkcd=2 http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:w3wfpQ3su5QJ:www.infobsd.org/index.php%3Fmore%3D73+openoffice+openbsd+site:infobsd.orghl=degl=atct=clnkcd=3 -- Beste Gr|_e / Best regards , Nikolaus Hiebaum -- Andris Delfino
Issue after erroneous package update
Hi, I updated my packages (pkg_add -u), two of them weren't updated because they had several candidates, so I updated them manually (pkg_add -iu pkg-name). They were curl, and mozilla-firefox. curl updated ok, mozilla-firefox didn't. The error was: Can't install mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.3 because of conflicts (.libs-mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.1). For sanity, I decided to delete mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.1 and reinstall it again (pkg_delete mozilla-firefox ; pkg_add mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.1.tgz ). Now, I receive the same error: Can't install mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.1 because of conflicts (.libs-mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.1). How can I solve this? :S Thanks
Re: Issue after erroneous package update
That worked just fine, after uninstalling that I could install mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.3. Thanks ;) On 6/3/06, steven mestdagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andris Delfino [2006-06-03, 11:38:13]: Hi, I updated my packages (pkg_add -u), two of them weren't updated because they had several candidates, so I updated them manually (pkg_add -iu pkg-name). They were curl, and mozilla-firefox. curl updated ok, mozilla-firefox didn't. The error was: Can't install mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.3 because of conflicts (.libs-mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.1). For sanity, I decided to delete mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.1 and reinstall it again (pkg_delete mozilla-firefox ; pkg_add mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.1.tgz ). Now, I receive the same error: Can't install mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.1 because of conflicts (.libs-mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.1). How can I solve this? :S pkg_delete .libs-mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.1 -- steven Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm -- Andris Delfino
Re: Recommended window manager for OpenBSD
I've using ion since a time ago, and I absolutely recommend it to everyone. At least, give it a try, it's pretty handy. Greetings. On 5/26/06, Roger Neth Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/26/06, Alexander Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher Nelson wrote: [...] I was wondering what window manager was recommended for use with OpenBSD 3.9? i.e, one that is reasonably current, and not broken. Am I the only one that is quite satisfied with fvwm? While not as keyboard-only-friendly as ion et al by default, it is quite decent. Furthermore, it comes with the base install, which is the main reason I stick with it. I've tried quite a few window managers (briefly), and I really did not find any reason to switch. /Alexander I have the same sentiment but never voiced it. rogern John 3:16 -- Andris Delfino
Suggestion about supported hardware Web pages
IMHO, it would be useful to identify the hardware which is supported thanks to reverse engineering; so users can always check the pages and buy hardware with open documentation. What do you think? Thanks -- Andris Delfino
Theo opinion of Plan 9
I would like to know what does Theo think about Plan 9. Just curiosity, :P.
Re: openbsd and the money -solutions
Please, stop wanting companies to support you. It doesn't work that way. To develop an OS under a licence like the ISC has a big hole: funding. You can't just go: Hey, you use the implementation that I develop and give away for free, you should pay me!. If the pay you, OK, if the don't, well, that's OK too, and more realistic. One thing you can do, is to maintain OpenBSD free as in freedom, but not as in free bear. The CVS access would be the same as now, but no more FTP downloads with ISOs or install sets.
Re: openbsd and the money -solutions
It was the unique Unix-like OS with that licence. Right now, there are tons of other systems. Companies want to invest in Linux-based systems, because of marketing. On 3/24/06, mickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 08:40:59AM -0300, Andr?s Delfino wrote: Please, stop wanting companies to support you. It doesn't work that way. To develop an OS under a licence like the ISC has a big hole: funding. You can't just go: Hey, you use the implementation that I develop and give away for free, you should pay me!. If the pay you, OK, if the don't, well, that's OK too, and more realistic. One thing you can do, is to maintain OpenBSD free as in freedom, but not as in free bear. The CVS access would be the same as now, but no more FTP downloads with ISOs or install sets. sorry dude but you are full of shit. for example from history: how do you think bsd was developped originally at the ucb? cu -- paranoic mickey (my employers have changed but, the name has remained)
Re: openbsd and the money -solutions
As I have said before, BSD was the unique Unix-like operative system with a ISC-style license. That's why, IMHO, companies invested in it. On 3/24/06, Damien Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, Andris Delfino wrote: Please, stop wanting companies to support you. It doesn't work that way. To develop an OS under a licence like the ISC has a big hole: funding. You can't just go: Hey, you use the implementation that I develop and give away for free, you should pay me!. If the pay you, OK, if the don't, well, that's OK too, and more realistic. Even if we were to accept your pessimistic worldview that organisational gratitude is only a myth, then it is still in companies who use OpenBSD or OpenSSH interest to contribute - funding committed and internally-motivated developers to improve components of your product is far less expensive than recruiting, training, paying and providing office space for semi-motivated staff who crank out code of varying quality for financial reward alone. BTW, your linkage between the license and a lack of funding is specious, and there exist plenty of counter examples - including BSD itself. -d
Re: openbsd and the money -solutions
Don't do that, that is extortion. If you don't want to make OpenBSD free-as-in-freedom, but not free-as-in-beer; well, there is another thing that might help. Companies will only donate if they gain something, not just code, I'm talking about money. I'm not a legal guy, but: isn't there a way to make companies gain some money if the donate to us? Like a tax-exempt or something? On 3/24/06, Deanna Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan Flannery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I really hate prolonging this thread, but I'm curious about the following... I've done quite bit of contract work around my area, and in most cases I've been able to implement OpenBSD for something. Whenever that's happened, I've always pushed for the company to make a donation. In most cases it's worked (actually all that I can think of), resulting in (usually) around $500. It's not what the larger companies could do, but I'm curious if other contractors try to push donations when they utilize openbsd/openssh. All the companies I've worked with have been fairly receptive. I work for a startup that simply would not exist without OpenSSH. AFAIK, they have never donated a penny, the excuse being, we will once we turn a profit. But, if they do, will they really donate? Or will they be too busy counting the dollars. The recent messages by Damien and Theo are great for forwarding to bosses and marketing and PR. Thanks for those; that's what I'll do with them. That said, I think a wall of shame page on the OpenSSH site might be a good idea: one listing all those big companies mentioned that have never donated a dime. Negative PR might result in more donations than managers receiving the minor annoyance message forwarded to them, which they'll simply delete and forget about. -- deanna
Re: flash plugin mozilla-firefox
As far as I know, that isn't possible. Maybe if you use Mozilla Firefox under Linux emulation (which I have tried, but failed). Since Flash Player is a Linux binary, you must use it with another Linux binary. That's why you should use Opera. Greetings On 3/21/06, Roy Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try this http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq13.html#javaflash -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joco Salvatti Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:15 AM To: Misc OpenBSD Subject: flash plugin mozilla-firefox Hi all, I'd like to know where to put the flash plugin in order to have flash animations being run under Mozilla-Firefox. Thanks -- Joco Salvatti Undergraduating in Computer Science Federal University of Para - UFPA web: http://salvatti.expert.com.br e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is there any p2p in ports which let me search audio files by bit rate?
I've tried gtk-gnutella, mutella, and mldonkey, but I'd like a client which can search by bit rate. Any suggestion? Thanks
Re: Can't use some characters in xterm/console
I use the ksh shell. Tried csh in an xterm, no problem there (I can use the characters there). So, is something I can tweak to make them work in ksh? On 3/14/06, David T Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually if you're having the same problems on a tty, you might want to ssh in remotely and change your default shell, to see if it's a problem with some config setting in your .kshrc or .bashrc, etc... Have you tried logging in as a different user? Do you still have the same problems regardless of the shell you use?
Re: Problems upgrading to 3.8-stable
I followed the steps in that page using sudo, no problems. On 3/11/06, Mike Loiterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm following the instructions at http://openbsd.org/stable/html to upgrade to 3.8-stable. Everything works as it is supposed to until I get to the part where I am supposed to copy the newly compiled kernel into /. I execute the command and get this error: # cp bsd /bsd cp: /bsd: Operation not permitted I got around this by setting /etc/rc.securelevel to 0, rebooting, and then executing the commands: # chflags noschg /bsd # cp /usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC/bsd /bsd # chflags schg /bsd Then changing /etc/rc.securelevel back to 1 and rebooting. Now uname -a is reported as: OpenBSD host.hostname.net 3.8 GENERIC#0 i386 So it appears that the kernel upgrade was successful...I hope. Now I'm tryig to upgrade the binaries by executing the following commands: # cd /usr/src/ # rm -r /usr/obj/* # make obj make build It starts to compile but then gives me this error: === lib/libpthread Makefile, line 29: Could not find /usr/src/lib/libpthread/include/Makefile.inc Fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. I'm not sure why it's missing that file as I performed a cvs checkout just last night using this command: # cd /usr; cvs checkout -P -rOPENBSD_3_8 src I just did: # cd /usr/src; rm -rf * # cd /usr; cvs checkout -P -rOPENBSD_3_8 src So, my questions are these: 1. Was this an appropriate way of doing the kernel upgrade? 2. How do I correctly clean up from the failed binary build? Is this ok: # cd /usr/obj/; rm -r * 3. How do I fix the error so it compiles correctly...assuming that the file shows up from the second cvs checkout 4. Once it compiles correctly, how do I install the binaries? The upgade page does not include this information. Thanks for the help. -- Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E
Need suggestion for a graphics tablet
Hi, I want to buy graphics tablet, and would like to know which has better support under OpenBSD. In case I'm using the wrong word, this is what I mean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_tablet Thanks!
Need for a benchmark recommendation
I need to run a benchmark for testing the temperature of my system, which of these (http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ports/benchmarks/?only_with_tag=OPENBSD_3_8) do you recommend? Thanks
Re: A small patch to make input style in license.template consistent
If you talk about obvious things, then a four-digit year is an obvious one... A two-digit one is stupid (maybe Jesus left some hack?)... On 1/30/06, Nick Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AndrC)s Delfino wrote: Maybe it may help someone, :P --- license.template Tue Jun 3 19:37:00 2003 +++ license.template.1 Sun Jan 29 10:00:22 2006 @@ -5,11 +5,14 @@ should be separated by a comma, e.g. Copyright (c) 2003, 2004 +Note that less than and greater than signs below MUST be removed; +they are there for you to enter your own information. + If you add extra text to the body of the license, be careful not to add further restrictions. /* - * Copyright (c) CCYY YOUR NAME HERE [EMAIL PROTECTED] + * Copyright (c) YEAR YOUR NAME HERE YOUR E-MAIL HERE * * Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this softwae for any * purpose with or without fee is hereby granted, provided that the above What problem are you trying to fix? I really don't think this adds much... You lost the implied suggestion that year be a four digit number, and you stated what is pretty darned obvious to an almost insulting degree. I would really hope that anyone seriously planning on contributing new code would understand what was there currently, or would at least understand the idea of looking to see how others did it if they had uncertainty (that IS the purpose of the BSD license, of course!). What is there now isn't exactly the way I would have done it, but neither is your change, and I suspect very few other developers would agree with me or with each other. Nick.
A small patch to make input style in license.template consistent
Maybe it may help someone, :P --- license.template Tue Jun 3 19:37:00 2003 +++ license.template.1 Sun Jan 29 10:00:22 2006 @@ -5,11 +5,14 @@ should be separated by a comma, e.g. Copyright (c) 2003, 2004 +Note that less than and greater than signs below MUST be removed; +they are there for you to enter your own information. + If you add extra text to the body of the license, be careful not to add further restrictions. /* - * Copyright (c) CCYY YOUR NAME HERE [EMAIL PROTECTED] + * Copyright (c) YEAR YOUR NAME HERE YOUR E-MAIL HERE * * Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this softwae for any * purpose with or without fee is hereby granted, provided that the above
Request for a questions in FAQ
I think that a What is the preferred way to submit contributions? (and give the exact diff command with prefered arguments, and What is the preferred license when submiting contributions? would answer the two most common questions when someone wants to contribute to the project. Greetings
Re: A small patch to make input style in license.template consistent
yes, I haven't that typo in the original file, sorry, :P On 1/29/06, Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 10:12:28AM -0300, Andris Delfino wrote: Maybe it may help someone, :P --- license.template Tue Jun 3 19:37:00 2003 +++ license.template.1 Sun Jan 29 10:00:22 2006 @@ -5,11 +5,14 @@ should be separated by a comma, e.g. Copyright (c) 2003, 2004 +Note that less than and greater than signs below MUST be removed; +they are there for you to enter your own information. + If you add extra text to the body of the license, be careful not to add further restrictions. /* - * Copyright (c) CCYY YOUR NAME HERE [EMAIL PROTECTED] + * Copyright (c) YEAR YOUR NAME HERE YOUR E-MAIL HERE * * Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this softwae for any ^^ This typo is not there on my system (3.8-stable); I hope you added it somehow? Joachim
Re: A small patch to make input style in license.template consistent
Or... somehow I changed that word when sending the message. Anyway, this is the correct diff: --- license.templateTue Jun 3 19:37:00 2003 +++ license.template.1 Sun Jan 29 12:33:55 2006 @@ -5,11 +5,14 @@ should be separated by a comma, e.g. Copyright (c) 2003, 2004 +Note that less than and greater than signs below must be removed; +they are there for you to enter your own information. + If you add extra text to the body of the license, be careful not to add further restrictions. /* - * Copyright (c) CCYY YOUR NAME HERE [EMAIL PROTECTED] + * Copyright (c) YEAR YOUR NAME YOUR E-MAIL * * Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software for any * purpose with or without fee is hereby granted, provided that the above On 1/29/06, Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 07:17:23 -0800 AndrC)s Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, I haven't that typo in the original file, sorry, :P Well, how come it didn't show up the diff? You didn't diff against the original then. On 1/29/06, Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 10:12:28AM -0300, Andris Delfino wrote: Maybe it may help someone, :P --- license.template Tue Jun 3 19:37:00 2003 +++ license.template.1 Sun Jan 29 10:00:22 2006 @@ -5,11 +5,14 @@ should be separated by a comma, e.g. Copyright (c) 2003, 2004 +Note that less than and greater than signs below MUST be removed; +they are there for you to enter your own information. + If you add extra text to the body of the license, be careful not to add further restrictions. /* - * Copyright (c) CCYY YOUR NAME HERE [EMAIL PROTECTED] + * Copyright (c) YEAR YOUR NAME HERE YOUR E-MAIL HERE * * Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this softwae for any ^^ This typo is not there on my system (3.8-stable); I hope you added it somehow? Joachim -- Security is decided by quality -- Theo de Raadt
Re: A small patch to make input style in license.template consistent
Should I do that diff then? On 1/29/06, Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:35:56 -0300 AndrC)s Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or... somehow I changed that word when sending the message. Anyway, this is the correct diff: --- license.templateTue Jun 3 19:37:00 2003 +++ license.template.1 Sun Jan 29 12:33:55 2006 @@ -5,11 +5,14 @@ should be separated by a comma, e.g. Copyright (c) 2003, 2004 +Note that less than and greater than signs below must be removed; +they are there for you to enter your own information. + If you add extra text to the body of the license, be careful not to add further restrictions. /* - * Copyright (c) CCYY YOUR NAME HERE [EMAIL PROTECTED] + * Copyright (c) YEAR YOUR NAME YOUR E-MAIL * * Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software for any * purpose with or without fee is hereby granted, provided that the above Could you please quote under the message? anyway, it's much easer to use the cvs diff command it you're diffing against files that are in a repository. On 1/29/06, Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 07:17:23 -0800 AndrC)s Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, I haven't that typo in the original file, sorry, :P Well, how come it didn't show up the diff? You didn't diff against the original then. On 1/29/06, Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 10:12:28AM -0300, Andris Delfino wrote: Maybe it may help someone, :P --- license.template Tue Jun 3 19:37:00 2003 +++ license.template.1 Sun Jan 29 10:00:22 2006 @@ -5,11 +5,14 @@ should be separated by a comma, e.g. Copyright (c) 2003, 2004 +Note that less than and greater than signs below MUST be removed; +they are there for you to enter your own information. + If you add extra text to the body of the license, be careful not to add further restrictions. /* - * Copyright (c) CCYY YOUR NAME HERE [EMAIL PROTECTED] + * Copyright (c) YEAR YOUR NAME HERE YOUR E-MAIL HERE * * Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this softwae for any ^^ This typo is not there on my system (3.8-stable); I hope you added it somehow? Joachim -- Security is decided by quality -- Theo de Raadt -- Security is decided by quality -- Theo de Raadt
Safety of a shutdown when no user could log in
What I'm trying to ask is this: if a user turns on the computer, and can't log in, is it safe to power off the computer without using halt, or shutdown, (ie. pressing the power off button)? Good luck
Re: OpenBSD logo in xlock(1) life mode should be updated
This is the best I could do, hope you like it. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/x-xpixmap which had a name of life-b.xpm]
Re: Sony DSC T7 camera works with OpenBSD
same here... again! =). I tried the a snapshot and my camera (Sony DSC-S40) works great. Thanks!!
OpenBSD logo in xlock(1) life mode should be updated
The logo which one can see is the old daemon, shouldn't it be Puffy now?
Deletion of indirectly -installed packages (dependencies)
Hi, I want to know if there are any plans to support the deletion of indirectly -installed packages (dependencies). What I want I'm trying to say, is, for example, when one adds package FOO, and that package has tons of dependencies, and one then deletes it, we didn't uninstall all the dependencies. I know it isn't simple, one must first have a way to say: hey, I'm a package who was added by a user, I wasn't added just to serve a package you deleted!!, and then check if the dependency is used by any package. Also, it should always ask if we want to delete that dependecy, maybe someone starts using it directly instead of using the package which needed it to be added. But, IMHO, it would be nice, =). Help you understand me, good luck
IMHO, wsconsctl(8) output when setting variable values should be modified
I guess wsconsctl(8) output when setting variable values should be slightly modified, since mixerctl and sysctl uses: variable: old_value - new_value, and wsconsctl(8) uses: variable - new_value, as you can see below. $ mixerctl outputs.master=199,199 outputs.master: 199,199 - 199,199 $ sudo sysctl machdep.userldt=1 machdep.userldt: 1 - 1 $ wsconsctl keyboard.bell.pitch=50 keyboard.bell.pitch - 50 Thx, and have a great new year!
exit and eject should have their second letter in upper-case in cdio(1) help output
Since E is an ambiguous command, one must use either type EJ or EX to eject a cd or otherwise exit cdio, but both have an E shorcut. That's why these two lines must be changed: { CMD_EJECT, eject, 1, } to: { CMD_EJECT, eject, 2, }, { CMD_QUIT, exit, 1, }, to: { CMD_QUIT, exit, 2, }, at http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.bin/cdio/cdio.c Thanks! ;)
Can't make sound working well
Hi, I have a problem with making sound work under OpenBSD. I have already read the FAQ, but not luck with those, :P. Here are all the datails: I'm using OpenBSD 3.8, i386 platform. My motherboard is a SY-P4VGM one. http://www.soyousa.com/products/proddesc.php?id=273 My chip (VT8233) is supported. http://www.openbsd.org/i386.html My sound system is a 2.1 one. audioctl -a output: name=VIA VT8233 version= config=auvia encodings=ulinear:8,mulaw:8*,alaw:8*,slinear:8*,slinear_le:16,ulinear_le:16*,slinear_be:16*,ulinear_be:16* properties=full_duplex,mmap,independent full_duplex=0 fullduplex=0 blocksize=416 hiwat=157 lowat=117 monitor_gain=0 mode= play.rate=8000 play.channels=1 play.precision=8 play.encoding=mulaw play.gain=127 play.balance=32 play.port=0x0 play.avail_ports=0x0 play.seek=0 play.samples=0 play.eof=0 play.pause=0 play.error=0 play.waiting=0 play.open=0 play.active=0 play.buffer_size=65536 record.rate=8000 record.channels=1 record.precision=8 record.encoding=mulaw record.gain=191 record.balance=32 record.port=0x1 record.avail_ports=0x7 record.seek=0 record.samples=0 record.eof=0 record.pause=0 record.error=0 record.waiting=0 record.open=0 record.active=0 record.buffer_size=65536 record.errors=0 dmesg.boot content: OpenBSD 3.8 (GENERIC) #138: Sat Sep 10 15:41:37 MDT 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.50GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.50 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,CNXT-ID real mem = 502837248 (491052K) avail mem = 451833856 (441244K) using 4278 buffers containing 25243648 bytes (24652K) of memory mainbus0 (root) bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(2e) BIOS, date 10/21/03, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfb240 apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown apm0: flags 70102 dobusy 1 doidle 1 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xdf44 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdeb0/144 (7 entries) pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 5 11 12 pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:17:0 (VIA VT82C596A ISA rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xc000 cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 VIA VT8751 PCI rev 0x00 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 VIA VT8633 AGP rev 0x00 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 S3 ProSavage DDR rev 0x00 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) vendor Acer Labs, unknown product 0x5459 (class communications subclass modem, rev 0x00) at pci0 dev 9 function 0 not configured uhci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x80: irq 11 usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1 at pci0 dev 16 function 1 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x80: irq 5 usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2 at pci0 dev 16 function 2 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x80: irq 12 usb2 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 3 VIA VT6202 USB rev 0x82: irq 11 usb3 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub3 at usb3 uhub3: VIA EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered pcib0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 VIA VT8235 ISA rev 0x00 pciide0 at pci0 dev 17 function 1 VIA VT82C571 IDE rev 0x06: ATA133, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: SAMSUNG SV0221N wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 19130MB, 39179952 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: ATAPI, CD-RW CW5201, 210C SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 auvia0 at pci0 dev 17 function 5 VIA VT8233 AC97 rev 0x50: irq 12 ac97: codec id 0x56494161 (VIA Technologies VT1612A) ac97: codec features headphone, 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, KS Waves 3D audio0 at auvia0 vr0 at pci0 dev 18 function 0 VIA RhineII-2 rev 0x74: irq 11 address 00:50:2c:a2:51:aa ukphy0 at vr0 phy 1: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface ukphy0: OUI 0x004063, model 0x0032, rev. 8 isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 sysbeep0 at pcppi0 lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7 it0 at isa0 port 0x290/8: IT87 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16 pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pccom1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 fd0
KBD(8) mapping question should accept L as an alternative for ?
I use the es mapping, but when I install OpenBSD ? key /doesn't work/ (cause I don't mapped my keyboard yet), which is ok. I know why this happens, I can configure the keyboard because I already know where ? is, but someone may try to search for it if he/she doesn't, :P. So, I suggest the following: KBD(8) mapping? ('?' for list) [none] should change to something like: KBD(8) mapping? ('?' or 'L' for list) [none] Hope you understood me, English is not my language, :P Greetings from Argentina